Guest essay by Eric Worrall
According to Anthony Fauci, the USA has not beaten Covid-19 because the USA didn’t lock down hard enough.
Anthony Fauci Explains Why the US Still Hasn’t Beaten Covid
The director of NIAID talks about vaccines, school reopenings, hostility toward science, and the lessons we’ll learn when (yes, when) we recover.
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If baseball can’t go on, what about schools?
It’s a much more complicated situation with the schools, and I can’t give you a yes or no answer. As a broad principle, we should try as best as we possibly can to get the kids to return to school, because of the negative unintended consequences of keeping the kids out of school, like the psychological health of the children, the nutrition of kids who get breakfast or lunch at school, to working parents who may not be able to adjust their schedules. So the default position is to try.
However, while you do that, the one thing that you have to underscore—and that’s a big however—is that paramount among this has to be the safety and welfare of the children, of their teachers, and secondarily, of the families of the children. So there has to be some degree of flexibility.
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Why do you think the US has done so poorly in suppressing this pandemic compared with other rich countries?
It isn’t just one single factor. Let me give you one or two that I think are important. First of all, other countries, certainly Asian countries, and certainly the European Union, when they so-called locked down—shut down, shelter in place, whatever you want to call it—they did it to about 95 percent of their countries. So they did it in full force. Some countries got hit badly, but once they locked down and turned things around, they came down to a very low baseline—down to tens or hundreds of new cases a day, not thousands. They came down and they stayed down.
Now, in the United States, when we shut down, even though it was a stress and a strain for a lot of people, we only did it to the tune of about 50 percent of the country shutting down. Our curve goes up and starts to come down. But we never came down to a reasonable baseline. We came down to about 20,000 new infections per day, and we stayed at that level for several weeks in a row. Then we started to open up—getting America “back to normal”—and started to see the cases go from 20,000 a day to 30,000, 40,000. We even hit that one point last week of 70,000 new cases a day.
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Read more: https://www.wired.com/story/anthony-fauci-explains-why-the-us-still-hasnt-beaten-covid/
Hindsight is a wonderful thing. I’m personally a fan of lockdowns, but they are not a panacea.
When President Trump closed the border to China at the start of February, against the advice of the WHO, Joe Biden accused Trump of “Xenophobia”. Nations including the USA are still struggling to find the right balance between economically damaging lockdowns and letting the disease run its course.
Before anyone sneers at worrying about “economic damage” when lives are at risk, the kind of economic damage I’m talking about is the risk of disrupting the food supply chain. Running out of food would kill far more people than Covid-19.
And there is significant evidence lockdowns don’t have a lasting impact – as Europe reaches the limit of their economic lockdown endurance, early evidence is cases are surging. Even hard lockdown Australia is struggling with a surge of cases in the high population density Victoria.
There is no doubt in my mind the Chinese government could have stopped the outbreak in its tracks, if they had thought about other people rather than their own selfish short term interests. But we cannot undo what has been done.
I don’t know the right answer, the right balance between lockdowns and economic activity, and I doubt anyone else does either. What we need to do is continue doing what we are already doing – do our very best to chart a course through the difficulties we all face.
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“There is no doubt in my mind the Chinese government could have stopped the outbreak in its tracks, if they had thought about other people rather than their own selfish short term interests. But we cannot undo what has been done.”
weird
when china welded wuhan shut on an 23rd I thought Trump would implement a total shut down of travel
from China and any other infected places.
Nope. why did I think he would demand a total shutdown?
he thought that was a good policy for ebola
“Trump said the US government “must immediately stop all flights from EBOLA infected countries or the plague will start and spread inside our ‘borders,’”
https://www.instagram.com/p/uilOlRmhWP/?utm_source=ig_embed
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/495027187381460992?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E495027187381460992%7Ctwgr%5E&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.vox.com%2F2020%2F2%2F26%2F21154253%2Ftrump-ebola-tweets-coronavirus
So you would argue that Trump should’ve equated C-19 with Ebola on the 23rd of January? Why would you think he should do that? What other nation did that?
The WHO sure didn’t think so:
“The World Health Organization (WHO) emergency committee said on Thursday that it was not the time to declare an ‘international emergency’ over the new virus, although it was ‘an emergency in China’.
Its 16-member experts’ panel was divided 50-50 on the issue, the WHO said, but had decided overall that it was too early because of the limited number of cases abroad, the efforts made by China to control the virus and the fact there was no evidence of human-to-human transmission outside of China.”
https://tinyurl.com/qlytjdy
No other nation thought so. Tell us why Trump should’ve thought so, i.e., why he should’ve equated C-19 with Ebola?
“the WHO said, but had decided overall that it was too early because of the limited number of cases abroad”
Yes, on Jan 23. But on Jan 30 they decided that the time was right, and made the declaration.
So you would argue that on Jan 30, based on WHO recommendations President Trump should’ve equated C-19 with Ebola?
Why should he have made that connection?
“So you would argue that on Jan 30, based on WHO recommendations President Trump should’ve equated C-19 with Ebola?
Why should he have made that connection?”
That’s a good question for Nick.
And it should be noted that President Trump introduced the China travel ban one day later, on January 31, 2020, against the advice of *all* his advisors, with the Democrats calling him a racists and a xenophobe for doing so. Now, he is praised for his early action and even the Democrats now say a travel ban was a good idea.
We have a real leader in the White House today.
Is that crickets from the MoshManster? Come on dood step up to the plate?
I mean, you said SOMETHING, is that all you’ve got? Here, lemme help, this is where Adrian Mann goes when he gets his smack-talking head handed to him:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUngdGr1Fps
Enjoy 🙂
China banned travel within its own borders, but allowed people to leave the country, thus spreading the virus to Iran, Italy and elsewhere. Had China admitted externally what was happening internally, there might not have been a global pandemic.
If we hadn’t had five Northeastern States with death rates per capita higher than any single country on Earth, maybe we would have done somewhat better. New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Connecticut, and Rhode Island all have deaths rates per 1 million population that dwarf whole nations. Take those hideous numbers out of the nation’s averages, and we look a lot better.
Fauci seems to forget that the US isn’t an autocracy wherein the Supreme Leader can shut down the entire nation’s economy and put people into enforced lockdown. I am so freaking tired of hearing people who should know better saying “If only the government had done this”, or “If only the government hadn’t done that,” as though we’re not a Constitutional Republic.
You know what really doesn’t work to change people’s minds on a subject? Telling them how stupid they are for not thinking like you do.
That works every time.
Several European nations have been experiencing a rise in new cases over the last two weeks. Spain leads with over 3,092 new cases for today. Their numbers had been down to 200 to 300 per day since June 1st through to July 7th. Then this new rise in numbers has steadily grown to this new peak rate of over 3,000/day. France has also seen a rise in numbers, but they sometimes don’t report ever day which makes me wonder if they are keeping this quiet for the time being.
One thought which comes to mind is that these nations which severly locked down may have only delayed the inevitable. In that case the answe, imo, is that the only way forward is to accept the fact that the virus will spread until some time in the future where herd immunity will kick in to drop the numbers for good. Meanwhile everyone, especially the high risk people, need to remain cautious until that future date where the numbers have declined significantly.
Something else which I have wonderd about is will the newly awakening sun will aid in the fight by the end of this year or thereafter as sunspots return with this new cycle.
Covering up the massive spread of COVID from protests:
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/57070/
” I’m personally a fan of lockdowns”
For criminals and infected people. Not healthy people that just need to get on with their lives.
South Africa had (and still has) one of the toughest lockdowns in the world, with a total ban on booze and tobacco, and with an 8pm curfew (recently raised to 9 pm (Hooray!)). OK – our death rate isn’t like the US or UK’s, but it is STILL there, with no appreciable drop. All the lockdown actually did was to DESTROY our already shaky economy. Hardly any mining (but that is also because of labour laws), no tourism, no wine exports, and very little agricultural exports (fewer buyers). Right! So what has a lockdown done anywhere else? Any proof that locking down a whole country does any good? There are a couple of million jobless South Africans who might dispute that.
Lockdown vs treatment which is more effective?
https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/this-indian-slum-contained-a-possible-covid-19-disaster-with-hydroxychloroquine
The last I checked, which was last week, in the age group 0-14, almost three times as many have died of influenza vs. C19 since February 1 this year, and something like five times as many have died of pneumonia. But it’s Covid-19 we’re worried about, not the others.
Once a person is over a flu or pneumonia, do they suffer from long-term health effects afterwards?
They do with the Wuhan virus.
And we don’t know where in the infection the long-term damage occurs. In the first few days? After a couple of weeks? There are claims that people who had mild cases of the Wuhan virus are having detrimental health effects after they have gotten over the infection. Do asymptomatic people suffer long-term health effects? What determines all this?
We have a lot to learn about the Wuhan virus.
Pneumonia? Yes, people often have lingering effects and many times permanent lung scarring.
Some time between technician-resident level and master-of-the-medical universe level one has to stop relying on what one knows or can find out and rely on what one is told. Fauci went over (under?) that bridge long ago. He has been told wrong.
Is he a pawn of Big Pharma? Maybe yes, maybe no. Upper managers tend to rely on gather sources around them with brown noses (is that still a politically correct expression?)
I, a scientist/engineer, believe HCQ/zinc/Azithromycin should be available over-the-counter, should be tested on 3 to 12 year olds to see if it can be preventative (prophylactic), and that it may well be the cost-effective means , possibly with steroids, of tilting the world back to “normal.” Future historians will note that the Covid-19 lockdowns, imposed because of faulty computer modeling, were one of the biggest mistakes made in the history of mankind (gender-kind) .
“In many countries, up to two thirds of all extra deaths occurred in nursing homes, which do not benefit from a general lockdown. Moreover, in many cases it is not clear whether these people really died from Covid-19 or from weeks of extreme stress and isolation’
“Up to 30% of all additional deaths may have been caused not by Covid-19, but by the effects of the lockdown, panic and fear. For example, the treatment of heart attacks and strokes decreased by up to 60% because many patients no longer dared to go to hospital’
“The often shown exponential curves of “corona cases” are misleading, as the number of tests also increased exponentially. In most countries, the ratio of positive tests to tests overall (i.e. the positivity rate) remained constant at 5% to 20% or increased only slightly. In many countries, the peak of the spread was already reached well before the lockdown”
“Countries without lockdowns, such as Japan, South Korea, Belarus and Sweden, have not experienced a more negative course of events than many other countries. Sweden was even praised by the WHO and now benefits from higher immunity compared to lockdown countries. 75% of Swedish deaths happened in nursing facilities that weren’t protected fast enough’
“In Sweden, the infections slowed down considerably even without a lockdown, and daily deaths now are close to zero. The evidence for the benefit of masks is still “very weak” and they might even be counterproductive. An introduction at this point in time would make no sense. The lethality of Covid-19 is between 0.1% and 0.5% and does not “radically differ” from influenza”
Just think we can do away with colds if everybody just shelters in place and wear masks. Can I run the CDC.
The US is continuing to have a problem in suppressing Wuhan covid-19 because Democrats don’t want it suppressed they want it to Fester. This they think, will enable them to win the next election. Have you noticed the worst affected cities in the US are all run by Democrats and the most derelict and dangerous cities are also run by Democrats, this is not a coincidence this is a plan.
Elimination is sheer delusion.
Suppression is fantasy
Control is possible
Co-existence is the reality.
Covid-19 is here to stay – forever…
A reappraisal is coming – a seismic shift in the way Governments around the world are going to manage this. Between now and the end of the year, there will be a move towards a Sweden-style approach. They will concede.
Although I’ve made several comments asking if Fauci might not be leaning towards Big Pharma (see latest Conspiracy theory:) https://civilianintelligencenetwork.ca/2020/02/12/george-soros-bill-gates-partner-with-china-on-coronavirus-drug/ , my main complaint about managers is who they do or do not listen to. (Trump good example.)
Someone please! Ask this question:
Since many lupus patients are taking (irregularly) HCQ, is there any statistical evidence that they contact SARS-CoV-2 (Covid-19 vector) any more or less often than non-HCQ users?
Which options are the best to solve, ‘beat’ our covid crisis/problem?
Hey I got an ‘idea’ what if the people could ‘see’ the options which are supported by peer reviewed data and then the people could pick the scientific effective options…
There are medical issues/lies in our system which are known lies, which are sort of hidden from the general public using sophisticated Mumbo Jumbo, and which are ignored by those who control what is officially told to people.
Australian Rules, The Big Lock Down Approach
1. Lock down millions and millions of people. Threaten people with a minimum fine of $1600 and up to $11,000 fines for leaving home unless for essential services.
As Melbourne has too many poor people in low income housing, Melbourne requires a curfew from 8 pm to 5 pm every night until September.
When 59 covid positive cases occur in a low incoming Melbourne apartment building, quarantine the building, using 500 police walking about the building until September to insure no residence makes a run for freedom.
2. Correct the population’s Vitamin D deficiency. 36% percent the Australian population is Vitamin D deficient. In the US 82% of the US blacks, 68% of the US Hispanic, and 42 percent of the US general population is Vitamin D deficient.
The most severely Vitamin D deficient people in every country:
Live in nursing homes, are obese, have type 2 diabetes (50% reduction in type 2 diabetes if the Vitamin D deficiency is corrected.)
The super Vitamin D deficient folks have an actived Vitamin D level of around 10 ng/ml. Optimum is blood serum level is 60 ng/ml which reduces breast cancer incidence by 80%. Above 30 ng/ml reduces the incidence of covid death or serious covid organ damage by a factor of 19 as compare to those folks who have a blood serum level less than 20 ng/ml.
3. Use HCQ triple cocktail to treat severely, Vitamin D deficient, covid positive as soon as they are covid positive. The virus starts in the throat where it stays for about a week before moving to the lungs.
All night curfews and all day lockdown …. And the first lockdown does not work. Do it all over again and again and again and again …
Australian City Implements Night Curfew to Fight Coronavirus
https://dailystormer.su/australian-city-implements-night-curfew-to-fight-coronavirus/
A state of disaster was declared in Australia’s Victoria on Sunday (Aug 2), with the local government implementing a night curfew as part of its harshest movement restrictions to date to contain the coronavirus.
State Premier Daniel Andrews said that the new restrictions, to be in place for six weeks until mid-September, will allow only one person per household to go shopping once a day. Melbourne residents will not be able to go further than 5km from home.
Melbourne, Australia’s second-largest city, is already under a reimposed six-week stay-home order, but it has been struggling to rein in COVID-19 cases. Record numbers of new infections of the virus that causes the disease were reported last week, prompting warnings of further restrictions.
As we all know, it is actually a record number of tests.
Australia has only had 208 deaths. That is the opposite of a crisis.
Hey are you getting pressure to not talk about Covid? Are you being censored about Covid or the Vit. D research? Please, send me a note directly, if you want to talk off record.
This issue needs to addressed. The problem’s structure, the issue’s structure, is what it is. It is simple in that there is a solution. And it is the same all over the world. My daughter worked as a nurse in the second largest hospital in Saudi Arabia and has worked in nursing homes, multiple hospitals. The patients are severely Vit. D deficient. Below 10 ng/ml.
We have accepted lying about CAGW because of the climate issue’s complexity and our ignorance of the science why temperature is and does change. And some believe the green stuff is good, not damaging the env.
The Vit. D population deficiency is different. There is now more and more than sufficient independent evidence to support the assertion that what is stated is ‘scientifically’ correct and proven beyond the doubt required to take action, there is only one side to the Vit. D deficiency issue from the standpoint of the US population who are independent of US medical industry.
The observations support the assertion that blacks in the US are being adversely affected, by Vit D def. because they have dark skin.
Blacks have been shown in peer reviewed studies to respond exactly the same to Vit. D supplements as whites.
The woman, Carole Baggerly who forced/got money from US women, to fund the Vitamin D research to happen, starting her work in 2007, is based in San Diego.
The research center, that was built with the Vit. D women’s money, is called Grassroots health.
The Vit. D research mature, it is now absolutely unequivocal and is supported by piles of real life independent observations concerning the Covid death rate …
That all supports the Vit. D peer reviewed papers’ conclusions.
There is no conspiracy or possible commercial motive to push Vit. D supplements to stop diseases and or there is no altern motive to stop following all the the government’s rules for covid or to make up the data up that is in the Vit. D papers.
I have links to every peer reviewed studies noted in this chart. We know 82% of the US blacks are Vit. D deficient.
Black people are the ‘canary’ to show how Vit. D deficiency affects our health.
Twice as many US blacks are dying from Covid, than whites.
Three times as many US blacks are dying from Aids than whites. Three times more US blacks get HIV than whites.
2 1/2 times more blacks are dying from prostate cancer than whites.
And now we know from peer reviewed research that the Vit. D deficiency causes those ‘diseases’ or logically alternatively optimum blood serum levels of active Vit. D protects against getting those ‘diseases’.
https://www.grassrootshealth.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/disease-incidence-prev-chart-051317.pdf
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/08/03/florida-reports-lowest-single-day-increase-in-coronavirus-cases-since-june/
What is the ‘scientific’ reason why Florida covid death, is five times less, than the New York death rate for covid?
Why is the Florida death rate for Covid 1.47% as compared to the New York death rate
Florida is the sunshine state and the people in that state have high levels of actived Vitamin D in the blood stream while New York is cloudy and rainy ….
And a large number of people live in Manhattan where it very difficult for white people and impossible for black people to get their daily UVB, if they do not take Vit. D suppls., in the summer and not possible in the winter.
And
“FL and NY have an identical number of per capita coronavirus infections but FL has 5X less per capita deaths,” Paul pointed out.
Overall, the state has reported 491,884 total cases, bringing the mortality rate to 1.47 percent. There have been 27,366 recorded hospitalizations statewide, although hospital capacity is increasing statewide, jumping from 21 percent nearly two weeks ago to over 25 percent on Monday.
82% of the US black population, 69% of the US Hispanic, and 42% of the US general population is Vitamin D deficient.
Prevalence and correlates of vitamin D deficiency in US adults.
https://tahomaclinic.com/Private/Articles4/WellMan/Forrest%202011%20-%20Prevalence%20and%20correlates%20of%20vitamin%20D%20deficiency%20in%20US%20adults.pdf
4000 UI/day of Vitamin D supplements is required to raise the serum 25(OH)D of the entire population above 30 ng/ml.
https://emerginnova.com/patterns-of-covid19-mortality-and-vitamin-d-an-indonesian-study/
Patterns of COVID-19 Mortality and Vitamin D: An Indonesian Study
Vitamin D Insufficient Patients 12.55 times more likely to die, blood serum 25(OH)D level from 21 to 29 ng/ml
Vitamin D Deficient Patients 19.12 times more likely to die, Vitamin D blood serum level less than 20 ng/ml
Vitamin D ‘normal’ for this study is 25(0H)D above 30 ng/ml.
solutions rarely talked about:
we should use all this fear to help people reduce their underlying conditions. ie; get out of the house, exercise, eat less, eat better, do all the things that help reduce inflammation in the body. scare people from a big mac to a salad with olive oil.
Not just vitamin D, but add ionic zinc, elderberry, ECGC, querciten, etc.