If Facebook is any indicator, @RealDonaldTrump will win #2020Election by a blowout

People send me stuff. I got Facebook messages this past weekend inviting me to “like” both Donald Trump’s and Joe Biden’s pages. What I found most interesting was the HUGE disparity in likes and followers, and I thought it worth noting here.

See the highlights in the screencaps below:

Source: https://www.facebook.com/DonaldTrump accessed Monday 7/27/20 11:15AM PDT
Source: https://www.facebook.com/joebiden/ accessed Monday 7/27/20 11:15AM PDT

Trump has 28,449,428 likes, with 30,249,329 followers, while Biden has 2,182,873 likes and 2,383,321 followers.

That’s greater than a 10 to 1 ratio in likes and followers between the two candidates. While there’s certainly nothing scientific about Facebook, the numbers themselves fly in the face of all these recent news polls that show Biden leading by widened margins in key states.

I think it’s more likely that conservatives simply don’t engage in polls, resulting in left-skew, just like in 2016.

Hopefully, Mr. Trump will win, and keep us out the madness that is (was) the Paris Climate Accord as he did not long after taking office.

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July 27, 2020 1:34 pm

I’ve read several times recently that Facebook is “the cesspool of social media.” To me, the numbers quoted in the post offer confirmation of that observation. As to the election, it seems we have the choice between two elderly sex offenders. There are no good choices. What has brought us to this abhorrent situation?

Can we go back to Climate talk?

MarkW
Reply to  Tom Wills
July 27, 2020 3:19 pm

First off, there is no evidence that Trump is a sex offender.
Secondly, you are free to ignore any articles that aren’t about Climate. Unless your purpose is to whine about people who talk about things you aren’t interested in.

Reply to  MarkW
July 27, 2020 4:24 pm

“there is no evidence that Trump is a sex offender.”

He admitted to sexually assaulting women (kitty grabbing) because he can get away with it (he’s a star.)

Another Ian
Reply to  Henry Pool
July 27, 2020 5:23 pm

Observation of an old time publican out here back in the day when there were no females employed in the shearing industry

“You know the most barmaids are rooted in the sheds Wednesday night and the most sheep are shorn in the pubs Friday night.”

I’d guess the model for locker rooms might have similar traits?

Capn Mike
Reply to  Henry Pool
July 27, 2020 5:44 pm

Look, I don’t like him. But he did NOT admit anything. He posited a hypothetical : He COULD grab her and get away with it. Very different. Like me saying I could jump in front of a train. I ain’t gonna do it!

MarkW
Reply to  Capn Mike
July 27, 2020 6:58 pm

Hank believes whatever he is told to believe. He never fact checks for himself.

Reply to  Capn Mike
July 27, 2020 8:04 pm

What he said was, when you are rich and famous, women LET you blah blah blah…
Not all women.
But anyone who is an adult who never noticed that there are certain people who will do anything to be around someone who is very rich, or very famous…and even just extremely attractive.
That is simply a fact, although somehow everyone forgot it is OK to say things that are true.
Every city town and village in the world, has librarians, and school marms, and also strippers and prostitutes. They all have people that would only date or marry for love, and others who are shameless gold diggers.
For some subset of women, the rules change depending on who the guy is.
It is only recently that some women have decided to know that or speak of it is the worst thing any person can do. They seem to want everyone to pretend these facts do not exist.
And just so it does not appear I am singling out women, it is also true that every place in the world has men that would risk their life to help a stranger without even thinking, and others who are rapists.
People act shocked over discovering that some people will do the most awful things imaginable when millions, or tens of millions, or hundreds of billions of dollars, and the control thereof, are on the line…but no one is shocked when someone gets murdered over a petty robbery, small time drug deal, or asinine burglary gone wrong.
Go figure.

MarkW
Reply to  Henry Pool
July 27, 2020 6:57 pm

Like most of the things Hank knows, this one too is wrong.

Trump said that he could, not that he did.

The difference should be obvious even to a troll like you.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Henry Pool
July 27, 2020 6:57 pm

“He admitted to sexually assaulting women (kitty grabbing) because he can get away with it (he’s a star.)”

Distorting the truth again, I see, Henry. CNN is always looking for a good propagandist, if you need a job.

As Mark said, there is no evidence of Trump ever forcing himself on a woman in any way. Your “kitty” example is an example of lockerroom “talk” not action.

That lockerroom talk didn’t cause Trump to lose the 2016 election and it won’t cause him to lose the 2020 election either, because it was a distortion of reality then, and it is a distortion of reality now. And here you are perpetrating the lie.

You should stick to climate, Henry.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 27, 2020 7:08 pm

Nooooo Pool’s climate talk is worse than Trump’s locker room talk!

Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 27, 2020 8:56 pm

The whole story is, to me, far more complex.

For one thing, everyone in the world has known for decades that Donald Trump was a rich playboy type, but basically a very good person, although somewhat obnoxious at times for some people’s tastes.
It is also true that people say things in private they would never say if they knew the whole world would here them say it on TV. Including things that are braggadocios, obnoxious, not really true, and (imagine this) the worst thing that ever came out of someone mouth.
Outrageous sexual type banter when friends are out alone is not the domain of just men either. I do not have to think very hard to recall some outrageous and very naughty language and things said by some of the women I have known in my life.

For other people, they never talk like that, in any situation. Those people will sometimes act shocked that anyone would talk like that, and some that would actually BE shocked.
I doubt there are many people who would not cringe to imagine the worst thing they ever said go out on TV to the world while that person was sitting on the hot seat.
Maybe there are some people who have never said anything ever in their life they would ever be ashamed or embarrassed about.
But it is rather strange to hear the same people who pooh-poohed what Bill Clinton did with a young intern in the Oval Office, act all horrified that a rich playboy type would ever engage in locker room talk when he thought it was just him and another guy who would ever hear it.
He was not running for President at the time, and no one who voted for him did so because they imagined he was gonna be the new moral center of the Universe. He was not elected Pope. He was elected to be the hardnosed business man we all know him to be.

Any goy who is the best looking man in a whole city knows he can walk into just about any bar in any city in the country, and go home with some girl he meets there…many if not every night.
People who have been around rock stars know that there are people who are groupies.
Everyone who is a billionaire has a very much easier time getting dates that someone who is not, although that does not mean they know it or ever take advantage of that fact.

The facts of life: Some men, and some women, have a very easy task when it comes to finding someone to have sex with…because people of the opposite sex behave differently around around them.
And some people, men and women, are very permissive. Some are not so at all.
But everyone knows that such differences exist.

Another fact: People, especially men, who are very rich know that they will get sued if they break the rules of interpersonal relationships in certain ways…or they ought to.
Trump was never accused of anything out of line by any women, until they came out of the woodwork on election eve with dubious tales from decades hence.

Anyone who ever watched/listened to Howard Stern, who acts like someone saying what he said on that bus, means anything substantive, is merely practicing selective outrage based on politics and who they would prefer is sitting in the White House.

What percent of married men and women have ever cheated on a spouse? The number is very high.
It sounds nice and neat to say it that way…cheated on a spouse…but when you stop and think about exactly what it means, physically, and emotionally, actually stop and think about it…then someone saying something to another person in private shrinks to insignificance.
For ever 20 years, the number one source of clicks, site visits, and revenue generated by online ads and subscriptions has been pornography.
And people want to act shocked…SHOCKED… that someone SAID something off color once.
Gimme a break.

Matthew Schilling
Reply to  Tom Wills
July 27, 2020 3:23 pm

“What has brought us to this abhorrent situation?”
You not running? Of course, “Philosopher King” isn’t a thing, so I can understand why you have deferred to throw your tiara into the ring.

Abolition Man
July 27, 2020 1:37 pm

Anthony,
Congrats on having VSGPDJT as a reader of your site! Don’t forget that the DemoKKKrats are going to pull every trick in the boook to win in November. There will be graveyards around the country counted as polling places and every illegal will be sent Fraud-by-Mail forms. Stacy Abrams is the DNC’s Director of Fraud and Ballot Harvesting but she still thinks she is governor! Maybe she will get the chance to claim she is Vice-
President after Nov. 3!
A win by President Trump will give us a chance to reverse some of the damage done over the previous three administrations and perhaps restore America to greatness! Thanks for all you do to shine the light of truth!

J Mac
July 27, 2020 1:40 pm

Joe Biden: “I am their Leader… Which way did they go?”

Severian
Reply to  J Mac
July 27, 2020 3:49 pm

Joe Biden want’s everyone to know he’s just a regular guy. He puts his pants on the same way we do, one arm at a time.

PaulH
July 27, 2020 1:43 pm

“If Facebook is any indicator…” Well, OK 🙂

Clyde Spencer
July 27, 2020 1:46 pm

“That’s greater than a 10 to 1 ratio in likes and followers between the two candidates.”

And yet, the MSM would have us believe that Trump is steadily losing ground to ‘what’s his name.’ At this point in time, Yahoo has suspended comments to their news articles as well as their British Op-Eds. I’m not a big fan of conspiracy theories, but is it well known that there is a tendency for people to hop on the Band Wagon. And, some people, if they think their vote won’t make a difference don’t bother to vote. Thus, there is at least an incentive for liberal media to convince the public that Trump is losing to the guy living in his basement.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
July 27, 2020 7:05 pm

“Thus, there is at least an incentive for liberal media to convince the public that Trump is losing to the guy living in his basement.”

Oh, definitely! That’s exactly what the Leftwing Propaganda Machine is trying to do. They want Trump’s supporters to lose faith in him.

The good news is the Left doesn’t understand the psychology of the current situation. Trump’s supporters are on to the tricks of the Leftwing Media. They saw it all in 2016, and so as the Leftwing Media ramps up the anti-Trump rhetoric, his supporters just get more determined to vote for him.

Wild Horses wouldn’t keep Trump voters away from the polls.

Earthling2
July 27, 2020 1:49 pm

There is a very large silent majority that are fed up with the way the Democrats have acted the last 4 years, if not 12 years. And even more since this Pandemic began, and then the rioting and looting and ongoing protests in all the big Democrat cities. President Trump just has to win the Electoral College, not the popular vote, which is what he did last time.

I think the silent majority, when they do vote, will have to consider what direction they want the country to go in, Left or Right. The only think that can throw this election off is massive voter fraud such as the mail in ballot and/or outright fraud in missing/stuffed ballot boxes, which we know happens, but to what extent does it happen, no-one really knows. The other thing that could give Democrats the edge is if Creepy Senile Joe gives up the ghost, or resigns as the candidate when everyone sees in a live debate that his mental health is truly compromised. And then some dark horse could appear out of nowhere that could excite the undecided voter to change their vote, which is what this probably boils down to, which is the current undecided voter/swing states. As they say, It ain’t over, til it’s over.

July 27, 2020 2:07 pm

“I think it’s more likely that conservatives simply don’t engage in polls, resulting in left-skew, just like in 2016.”

This is beyond doubt more true than ever.
Trump will win in an epic landslide.
Like 1968 perhaps.
How many people who voted for Trump in 2016 are gonna vote to hand the country over to what we are seeing these days?
There are few people on either side who do not hate what is happening on one front of another.

Even if no other evidence was possible, who thinks that the wide swings of over 5% we are seeing from week to week, means that all those people are changing minds about who to vote for?
The choice could hardly be more stark from one side to the other.
Even people who hate Trump and who have never voted anything but D, are not going to back rampaging mobs burning, looting, and k!lling people.
And who is gonna vote for the guy who promises to raise their taxes, even if we were not in a recession?
And then defund the police?
Right along with Take Away Our Guns?

Even if Biden was not well along the road of cognitive decline, he has no chance.

Ill Tempered Klavier
Reply to  Nicholas McGinley
July 27, 2020 2:59 pm

Scribbled on the back of a garbage truck:

JOE BIDEN CALLS US DREDGES OF SOCIETY

OBAMA CALLED US CLINGERS

HILARY CALLED US DEPLORABLES

TERRORISTS CALL US INFIDELS

TRUMP CALLS US ALL AMERICANS

John Culhane
July 27, 2020 2:14 pm

I’m not a United States citizen so my opinion carries little weight but from what I see Trump has not attacked the little guy, that’s been the Democrats or at least my perception of them. The Democrats have also aligned themselves with destructive groups like ANITFA and BLM who do want to interfere with peoples lives and I reckon the insecurity caused by that threat and the fact the they don’t see Trump as a threat to their personal safety and well being. Biden is no Obama, he represents a wing of the Democrats that has run out of energy and he personifies that so he has a credibility problem if he tries to sell the Green New Deal. A blowout election for Trump would not be unexpected depending on how he plays his cards in August, September.

Another scenario is a close run election where the Democrats take their loss to the Supreme court and they seem to be gearing up to do that around the postal votes. It can be expected that 3% of postal votes will get lost in the system and not arrive on time to be counted which may be enough to swing the election in some states.

Reply to  John Culhane
July 27, 2020 3:42 pm

“Another scenario is a close run election where the Democrats take their loss to the Supreme court and they seem to be gearing up to do that around the postal votes.”

I read last week that Biden already has 600 laywers on standby to contest the election results.

John Endicott
Reply to  TonyG
July 28, 2020 4:22 am

I think that’s been pretty standard for both parties to have lawyers (not necessarily that exact number) on standby ever since the 2000 election. Neither party want’s to have to scramble to get lawyers in place should history repeat itself.

William Astley
July 27, 2020 2:17 pm

The Facebook status are high for Trump because Trump has something to say. Any saying stuff can get a guy into trouble… Based on polls, Trump needs a miracle and we need a miracle.

ta da, ta da, ta da…

There are now front line doctors who state it is a fact that the HCQ cocktail works and that there has been a massive ‘coverup’ to hide that fact.

On the congressional front steps today….

The made for Television piece (about 2 minutes in the clip) is the front line, angry black, doctor who works in a hospital in Houston, woman doctor…who states it is a fact the HCQ cocktail works, as she treated 350 covid sick patients….

..with the HCQ cocktail and the patients did not fake getting better. Effective drugs work or do not work.

And this is the kicker, the Woman is from Nigeria and she used the malaria drug to treat patients in Nigeria. It works. The woman is angry because she knows liars and politician liars.

As she said, there are no ‘discussions’ if the HCQ cocktail works. The time for ‘discussions’ with liars is over.

The ‘fake’ paper anti HCQ paper, should be investigated as mass murder.

There is a 2004 Virology paper, written by the organization, which the head of the FDCC, is a director of, that notes the malaria drug is an effect treatment for coronal viruses.

The front line doctors do not understand why covid-19 is called a novel virus. They have faced coronal viruses before and this new virus though more deadly is 70% the same.

Trump/we have sort of a miracle. Sad in way. There is in your face evidence of Mass organized lying to hide an effective treatment for covid during a time of a pandemic is ….

Should be the number one issue for this election.

Trump should triple done.

Fire the head of the FDCC, determine if criminal charges should be laid, media companies forced to undo the damage they have done by spreading this lie.

And the American people’s doctors should have access to the HCQ cocktail and it should be the standard treatment, unless there is something better.

https://www.breitbart.com/health/2020/07/27/watch-live-frontline-physicians-aim-to-dispel-massive-covid-19-disinformation-campaign/

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Tom Abbott
Reply to  William Astley
July 27, 2020 7:15 pm

“There are now front line doctors who state it is a fact that the HCQ cocktail works and that there has been a massive ‘coverup’ to hide that fact.”

https://www.newsweek.com/key-defeating-covid-19-already-exists-we-need-start-using-it-opinion-1519535

The Key to Defeating COVID-19 Already Exists. We Need to Start Using It

Harvey A. Risch, MD, PhD , Professor of Epidemiology, Yale School of Public Health

On 7/23/20 at 7:00 AM EDT

As professor of epidemiology at Yale School of Public Health, I have authored over 300 peer-reviewed publications and currently hold senior positions on the editorial boards of several leading journals. I am usually accustomed to advocating for positions within the mainstream of medicine, so have been flummoxed to find that, in the midst of a crisis, I am fighting for a treatment that the data fully support but which, for reasons having nothing to do with a correct understanding of the science, has been pushed to the sidelines. As a result, tens of thousands of patients with COVID-19 are dying unnecessarily. Fortunately, the situation can be reversed easily and quickly.

I am referring, of course, to the medication hydroxychloroquine. When this inexpensive oral medication is given very early in the course of illness, before the virus has had time to multiply beyond control, it has shown to be highly effective, especially when given in combination with the antibiotics azithromycin or doxycycline and the nutritional supplement zinc.

end excerpt

Trump is vindicated. The Left hates it.

William Astley
Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 28, 2020 10:47 am

I disagree.

The facts vindicate Trump. Trump is not vindicated.

Trump needs campaign ads talking about the HCQ cocktail……

There should be a dang alarm going off in the Republican party. Are you guys awake!!!!

The Republican party need to use the entire party’s strength to fix the most important problem the US faces…

Our economy is bleeding. There are riots in the streets and the people are afraid.

….. Do whatever it takes. Start demonstrations, stop all action in congress until this problem is resolved. The HCQ cocktail, should if it is a fact that is a high effective treatment when used appropriate to treat covid, be immediately available for use in hospitals.

Start with Republican states. Get good results and then go all in, making it a fact that every covid patient in the US, will have the option of very earlier HCQ treatment.

Lay off the stupid statue issue.

The idiot Left have given the Republicans an issue that will result in jail time for some of those involved.

Americans are dying everyday because they are not being treated with the HCQ cocktail

CNN, ABC, CNBC, and so on….

Ran the lie, that the HCQ does not save lives. We are not using HCQ because of a lie that was spread by the media, that was started because politics, is more important the US lives.

US lives matter. People’s lives matter more than politics.

What people do not get is lying to hide a very, effective treatment for the coronal virus that was been used before….

Is not playing Politics….. It is a fact that thousands and thousands and thousands of US citizens have died or now have life long lung and organ damage because….

The 24/7 news stations are guilty of criminal negligence. They have a duty to check the information that they issue. And now that we all know they were spreading a lie…

It is there responsibility to use there ‘news’ channel to undo the damage that they did.

This is direct interference into the US election and killing US citizens, in real time …..

…told a 100% lie. A criminal lie which is that HCQ will kill them and is not highly effective in treating the covid virus when given in the correct dosage and time in the viruses progression in the body. The virus starts in the throat and then moves into the lungs.

Lying studies were issued that either used HCQ incorrectly (too high dosage, cannot help people who are near death, needs to given to the patient early or before infection) or it appears …..

The Lying studies made up data. This should be investigated as murder…..

Reply to  William Astley
July 28, 2020 4:53 pm

Amen that brother. I cannot believe how far the LEFT has gone. It’s just amazing.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  William Astley
July 29, 2020 5:51 am

Laura Ingraham had a chart on her show last night showing the difference in the death rate for nations like Turkey that use HCQ on all people who test positive for the Wuhan virus verses nations that do not, and the chart was startling. Those who used HCQ as soon as possible after the infection is noticed had a much lower death rate.

July 27, 2020 2:19 pm

What is obvious to me is that Democrats cannot allow Dementia Joe to debate Trump in September and October. The DNC’s whole Hiden Biden’s dementia efforts they are playing will collapse if they allow that. So somehow they’ve got to get the debates cancelled without it being obvious to the public that Senile Joe can’t form two coherent sentences on complex topics that requires high-level executive function anymore without a teleprompter or notes.

MarkW
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
July 27, 2020 3:24 pm

A few weeks back, the Democrats claimed that they would only debate if Trump released all of his tax records.

Reply to  MarkW
July 27, 2020 4:25 pm

What is Trump hiding by not releasing his tax returns?

Reply to  Henry Pool
July 27, 2020 5:00 pm

Can I see yours please Mr Pool. 10 years worth if you don’t mind. Including the schedules with itemizations for loopholes deductions claimed.

Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
July 27, 2020 6:29 pm

Send me the release form from the IRS, and I’ll let them send them to you.

I work for a living, you will be disappointed.

MarkW
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
July 27, 2020 7:00 pm

Does trolling count as working?

Send them to Anthony, then he can post them.
Assuming that you aren’t lying again.

Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
July 27, 2020 8:34 pm

Biden provided his. Obama provided his. Both Bushes provided theirs. Clinton provided hers. Reagan provided his……..what is Trump hiding?

Reply to  Henry Pool
July 27, 2020 10:37 pm

And they all suck as president or candidate for president and have all made lots of other terrible decisions about how this country should be run. Why should Trump follow in the footsteps of terrible leaders when he leads? So you did not make the point you thought you did. Do I have to explain it to you more simply?

Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
July 27, 2020 11:42 pm

Trump has no obligation to release his tax returns and particularly if they are currently being audited by the IRS … that’s Lois Lerner’s weaponised IRS. Let’s not forget how Obama used public service organisations to attack his detractors.

” 1. Are presidents required to release their tax returns?
Presidents aren’t required by law to release their tax returns. Nevertheless, between 1974 and 2012, every president but Gerald Ford has made a voluntary release of the tax returns they filed while in office. Ford released no complete returns, but released 10 years of summary data including gross income, taxable income, major deductions, and taxes paid.
This tradition of voluntary tax return disclosure ended in 2017, when President Trump declined to release any personal tax information. Trump has offered various reasons for keeping his returns private, but he has frequently insisted that he won’t make a release while his returns are being audited by the IRS. ”
https://www.taxnotes.com/presidential-tax-returns

Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
July 27, 2020 11:47 pm

Let us not also forget how Obama militarised state departments to do his dirty strong arm enforcement on his behalf … he who has no scandals.
https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/The-Militarization-of-the-US-Goes-Beyond-Police-Departments-20160627-0030.html

MarkW
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
July 28, 2020 10:29 am

None of the previous presidents were billionaire business men.

MarkW
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
July 28, 2020 10:30 am

And the Justice Dept, and the FBI.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Henry Pool
July 27, 2020 6:44 pm

Most people would not understand a complicated tax return. If you think that Democrats will not twist the truth about Trump’s returns and put forth all kinds of untruthful speculations, you are just dumb. And if you think that Trump’s tax returns have not been thoroughly examined to exhaustion by the IRS, you are even worse than dumb.

Reply to  Tom in Florida
July 27, 2020 6:54 pm

Henry Pool has a perverse belief that there must be something Trump did that he can be impeached or removed from office over. There’s got to be something. He clings and clings to that perverse hope.

I tell you, early on, before the crash course in politics, I was worried. I am not anymore. And neither is most of America. Hense, you see the panic by the Left… The fun (albeit sad) part is watching the Left each their own… as the woke become chum for their creations. Priceless.

Reply to  Tom in Florida
July 27, 2020 8:38 pm

Most people understand that all presidents since Nixon have revealed their tax returns. Most people understand that Trump is hiding something. He’s even hiding them from a grand jury, which everyone knows would remain secret under the rules of procedure with respect to a grand jury.

Reply to  Henry Pool
July 27, 2020 10:38 pm

Do you know what the word leak means? Do we have to explain that to you too? You don’t get it, nor will you because you are consistent… an anti barometer.

Reply to  Tom in Florida
July 27, 2020 8:40 pm

Mario, if there is nothing illegal in the tax returns, then I would think Trump would release them to prove to everyone how rich he really is. Or is it the loan he’s deducting interest on that he got from Russia?

Reply to  Henry Pool
July 27, 2020 10:40 pm

Your logic is that of a socialist. It does not pass muster for intelligent or honest Americans. Do I have to explain that to you?

Reply to  Henry Pool
July 27, 2020 10:41 pm

PS: my previous comment was to Pool, since he replied to Tom in FLA’s post…

Reply to  Tom in Florida
July 28, 2020 12:02 am

Henry Pool, “if there is nothing illegal in the tax returns, then I would think Trump would release them to prove to everyone how rich he really is. Or is it the loan he’s deducting interest on that he got from Russia?”

I have no particular like or dislike of Trump, but he is the leader of the civilised free world and the rest of us civilised free men in the world rely on his tenacity to keep us all free.

Why are you lefties so interested in other people’s wealth ? Is it not enough that the man takes no salary for President … that he has vast corporations that could better use his skills than defend himself from the likes of nitwits.

I don’t know whether he has finance that is originated in Russia … is that illegal ? I expect that there are many US corporations doing JV’s in Russia and the likewise, Russian corporations in the USA … is that illegal?

Trump had a corporate life before being ELECTED President … unlike most others who were particular nobodies of note … Clinton pleaded that he was broke and somehow became fabulously wealthy, Obama was a ‘community organiser’ of no wealthy disposition yet is suddenly fabulously wealthy … where did that money come from. Biden is linked with the nefarious laundering of aide to Yugoslavia back through his chums … he’s nothing but a half-witted bum … if he had another brain cell it would be lonely … and that is the sorry excuse that is put forward as a potential leader of the civilised free world ? Are you kidding me ?

Reply to  Tom in Florida
July 28, 2020 4:41 am

No one who votes for him cares one tiny rat’s tuchus about his tax returns.
And the people who want to see them are are not “concerned some crime might have been committed”.
How stupid does anyone have to be to not see what is really going on?
The Democrat voters have been studiously ignoring crimes by the thousands by anyone who is a member of the party they vote for.
They all want to see those returns for one reason…to play gotcha.
His returns are audited.
They are not public information.
And in case there are democrats who did not notice, 37 angry Democrat attack dog prosecutors combed over every aspect of his life and business for two years and found nothing…not one thing, they could charge him with.
It was the largest ever prosecution…in search of a crime. And none was found.
They raked dozens of people over the coals for years…still doing it in some cases, just to try to get someone who would compose a crime that did not exist.
Personally, I think it may be the case we have not seen any prosecutions yet is because of how high up it goes. Deep and wide and high enough to risk tearing the country apart.
Lindsay Graham has been promising hearings to “get to the bottom of it all” for three years now. Including a new round of such promises after the impeachment hearings last Winter.
Still nothing.
Why?
Not one senate hearing yet over the Bidens, or the hoax blower colluding with Adam Schiff, or any of the people known to have lied in all of that.
Why?
What the Obama white House and the Department of Justice and the FISA court and the FBI did to Trump since before he was elected is the biggest scandal and the worst crimes ever committed for political purposes in this country in over 200 years.

But “tax returns” is what anyone cares about?
GMAFB!

MarkW
Reply to  Tom in Florida
July 28, 2020 10:31 am

Hank has never been a deep thinker. He keeps repeating the same disprove mantra over and over again, hoping the next time someone will believe him.

MarkW
Reply to  Henry Pool
July 27, 2020 6:59 pm

Business details.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Henry Pool
July 27, 2020 7:25 pm

What’s Trump hiding? Nothing as far as I, or anyone else knows, including Henry.

Trump is the most honest president in U.S. history. Or at least, the most vetted.

Trump has said on more than one occasion that he would be happy to let the Democrats look at his income tax returns, just as soon as his lawyers decide it can be done.

Trump just smiles when they ask him about his income taxes. I think he smiles because he knows something the Democrats don’t know, that his income taxes are clean and legal.

Trump is rich enough that he doesn’t have to cheat on his taxes, and imo, he is a moral person who would not indulge in such a thing. So he’s just stringing the Democrats along. Another Trump excellent troll of the Democrats. Like the time he offered to put solar panels on the Southern Border Wall and the Democrats went nuts.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 27, 2020 7:33 pm

Agreed! And do you remember this? Friggin’ PRICELESS!!!!!!!!!

Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 27, 2020 8:47 pm

Abbott, he won’t release them to a New York district attorney. “just as soon as his lawyers decide it can be done.” ….uh…..no…… it’s not his lawyer’s call.

“Trump is the most honest president in U.S. history” well, he’s claimed he can’t release them because he is under audit by the IRS, but the IRS has no rules that prevent them from being released. Clearly he’s lying.

Trump said he’s never screwed Stormy Daniels, Stormy says he has. One is lying, but one got paid a lot of money to keep their mouth shut. Oh….how about Karen McDougal?

Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 27, 2020 8:50 pm

“the most vetted.” …….no, Trump has not disclosed his birth certificate.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 27, 2020 8:54 pm

“the most vetted.” ……who took his SAT exam? We haven’t seen his grades from school????

John Endicott
Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 28, 2020 4:50 am

…….no, Trump has not disclosed his birth certificate.

Sorry, wrong again Mr Pool.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/blogs/lookout/yahoo-news-exclusive-trump-releases-birth-certificate-bill-151304482.html

In fact Trump has supplied 3:
1) the Certificate from Jamaica Hospital in Queens (provided to Maher as seen in the above link).
2) the Certificate of Birth Registration for New York City
and
3) the Certification of Birth from The City of New York’s Vital Records department

However, Bill Maher hasn’t (as far as I’m aware) disclosed if he ever donated the $5 million that he offered to in exchange for the Birth Certificate.

MarkW
Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 28, 2020 10:35 am

Poor Hank, he’s starting to drool on himself.

Joel Snider
Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 28, 2020 12:56 pm

Hey Henry – they show us ANYTHING about Obama’s college days?

This has been a four year rat-f*ck and the slimelords that you support STILL can’t find enough to railroad Trump with.

Of course, propaganda works best on the bigoted – which is where progressives live.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 29, 2020 7:24 am

““Trump is the most honest president in U.S. history” well, he’s claimed he can’t release them because he is under audit by the IRS, but the IRS has no rules that prevent them from being released. Clearly he’s lying.”

You’re confused, Henry. Trump does claim he can’t release his tax returns because he is under IRS audit, but he never said it was because of IRS rules, but rather it was because of the advice of his lawyers. His lawyers advise him not to release his tax records until after the tax audit is completed and it is perfectly legal for Trump to follow his lawyer’s advice, and if someone doesn’t like it, they can sue Trump. And that’s where we are. No lying on Trump’s part.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 29, 2020 7:47 am

Henry wrote: “Trump said he’s never screwed Stormy Daniels, Stormy says he has. One is lying, but one got paid a lot of money to keep their mouth shut.”

That’s right. My money is on Trump. Trump could have been paying hush money just to get her to hush, not because he actually had sex with her. Just the accusation would cause him a lot of trouble, as we have seen. So if he could avoid that publicity, I can see where he might want to make a deal with her. That doesn’t mean he had sex with her. You are free to assume whatever you want.

Henry wrote: ” Oh….how about Karen McDougal?”

What about her? Can you make a case for her? She apparently cannot.

It’s easy to make accusations. Anyone can do it. Proving it is another matter. Perhaps you should take notice of how good the radical Democrats are at ginning up fake scandals for their political opponents. They are very good at it. At one time they had over a dozen different women making sexual assault claims against Trump. Not one of the claims stood up to scrutiny. But that doesn’t matter to Democrats. What they are after is the accusation, as they can use that to smear their opponents, whether the accusations prove true or not.

None of the women that falsely accused Trump could prove their cases. Most of them didn’t even try. And some of the accusations were frivilous, like the beauty contestant that complained that Trump told her she was too fat for the contest.

John Endicott
Reply to  Henry Pool
July 28, 2020 4:37 am

What is Obama hiding by not releasing his birth certificate, Henry?

That question makes as much sense as your question does! The fact that both men’s initial impulse was to refuse to make public certain documents doesn’t mean they’re hiding anything. It took years before Obama finally released the birth certificate, and there’s no agency of the government with the power to audit birth certificates, and little in a birth certificate that can be twisted by ones political enemies into appearing to be somehow nefarious despite not being so.

MarkW
Reply to  John Endicott
July 28, 2020 10:36 am

You expect Hank to make sense?
He’s reached the point where he’s grabbing every straw that he can find to distract from the fact that his earlier rants have fallen flat.

Krudd Gillard of the Commondebt of Australia
Reply to  Henry Pool
July 28, 2020 4:56 am

One tax return did get out somehow to CNN and they devoted a prime time show to it.

It was a nothing burger, it showed that he paid a lot of tax, there was nothing in it to get at him.

Based on that one, I suspect none of his tax returns reveal anything nefarious.

Kr00
Reply to  Henry Pool
July 28, 2020 5:55 am

Question. What would be found in his tax returns that would make him unelectable?

I’d be happy for Trumps tax returns to made public, as well as Joe Biden’s financial dealings with China, Ukraine, while being an elected US official and how on earth a drug addict like Hunter got on that energy company board in Ukraine? And was the firing of the Ukraine prosecutor directly tied to the US foreign aid as Joe Biden threatened when he publicly stated he asked for the prosecutor to be fired? Quid pro quo? NO?

If you want transparency in your leaders then you best make sure they’re squeaky clean. Lucky Joe has onset dementia, what he can’t remember will be his saving Grace. I wonder is Joe has a foundation he can funnel his ill gotten gains into like the Clintons have?

Joel Snider
Reply to  Henry Pool
July 28, 2020 12:57 pm

That’s called not wanting be rat-f*cked by the slimiest democrat party in memory.

MarkW
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
July 27, 2020 3:27 pm

Even without debates, all Trump has to do is play all of the mental lapses that Biden has made since the start of the campaign.

Start off with by pointing out the problems with Joe’s mental faculties, then have a couple of staffers start talking about the Democrats plan to replace Biden a few months after the election with their actual candidate, whoever the VP is.

Reply to  MarkW
July 27, 2020 4:20 pm

covfefe

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Henry Pool
July 27, 2020 7:30 pm

Grasping at straws, aren’t you, Henry.

Reply to  MarkW
July 27, 2020 4:30 pm

Is injecting a disinfectant a “mental lapse?”
..
“And then I see the disinfectant, that knocks it out in a minute…and is there a way you can do something like, by injection, inside, or almost to clean…it sounds interesting to me.

niceguy
Reply to  Henry Pool
July 27, 2020 5:03 pm

You never got any disinfectant injected, ever? Really sure?

Reply to  niceguy
July 27, 2020 6:30 pm

Never, and I’m sure

Reply to  Henry Pool
July 27, 2020 6:04 pm

The 1st b, scratch that, Black President Willixm Jefferson Clinton, peace be upon his name, told it like it is, scratch that, be when thus enlightened the world: “It depends on what the meaning of is is.”

Reply to  gringojay
July 27, 2020 6:05 pm

edit: Jeffersxn – don’t doxx me bro’!

MarkW
Reply to  Henry Pool
July 27, 2020 7:01 pm

It really is pathetic how trolls take whatever the media tells them as gospel, without ever checking the whole truth.
It’s almost as if they are being paid to be dishonest.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Henry Pool
July 27, 2020 7:28 pm

“Is injecting a disinfectant a “mental lapse?””

No, that’s one of the lies you tell about Trump.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 29, 2020 8:19 am

I was watching the congressional hearing with Attroney General Bob Barr yesterday, and one of the idiot Democrats on the Judiciary Committee repeated this “Trump wants people to inject disinfectant” distortion of the truth. See, Henry, you’re a bad influence on at least one congresscritter.

I think this congresscritter was that guy that thought Guam was in danger of tipping over if too much weight was put on one end of the island.

Anyone who watched that House hearing saw the real, ugly face of the radical Democrats. They are just dripping with hate for anyone who doesn’t see the world the way they do. All they did was grandstand and show their contempt for their political opponents. They are the devisive ones. They are the ones who don’t want to get along.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 29, 2020 8:28 am

It was just awful, Tom. Bill Barr was so gracious. It got to the point of ludicrous when the female senator was spewing such contrive nonsense and even scolding him for interrupting him for answering a rhetorical question she literally just asked.

It was an assault of reality, where people who have an idea of what is going on would ask, “What planet are we on?” Watch planet of the Apes… ” and tell me the dems in congress are not at a significantly higher level of ignorance and level of bigotry and malfeasance.

Reply to  MarkW
July 27, 2020 4:34 pm

I think their plan may be to let him get sworn in, then invoke the 25th Amendment.
We know they have that on their mind, and they always accuse other people of what they are doing or have in mind.
I suspect that is what anyone voting for him is figuring.
Speaking extemporaneously, he cannot concatenate a full sentence.
So the question becomes his running mate.
And the demographics of that choice have him painted into a corner.
If he somehow wins, whoever is his VP will be the President, either sooner or (not much) later.

What I am really scratching my head about is, how are they going to act surprised when Biden loses?
And yet is there any doubt it will be a magnified version of what happened after the election in 2016?

Reply to  Nicholas McGinley
July 28, 2020 12:08 am

They’re seemingly trying to set up the scenario with ‘faked’ polls that Biden is an absolute shoe-in and if he looses it’s because Trump engaged the Russians / Chinese / Aliens to interfere with the voting … is this 2016 again ? The Russian conspiracy is dead, their media needs to tell them that awful truth.

Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
July 27, 2020 4:25 pm

I have been saying that on Twitter.
No way can they let Biden debate Trump…or anyone.
He can can barely speak for a minute without saying something totally incoherent.
And whenever he is face to face with someone who challenges him in any way, he gets nasty and combative, and starts rambling about pushups, IQ tests, and then resorts to crude insults.
That was why they had to take him out of live events altogether, and that was 6 months ago, and he was declining rapidly in coherence.
The people in his camp should be ashamed of themselves.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Nicholas McGinley
July 27, 2020 7:34 pm

“The people in his camp should be ashamed of themselves.”

Yes, they should. Trying to carry an incompetent over the finish line in full view of the American public.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 27, 2020 7:39 pm

Regarding: “Trying to carry an incompetent over the finish line in full view of the American public.”

My comment is, that incompetent Joe 30330 is the best the party can get. Now for the bait and switch. I predict Michelle will jump in to save her husband (from being erased and perhaps indicted) at the last minute, so she can avoid being vetted. She will skip the debates and the LEFT will be so excited it will make for a scary time in American politics. Boy I hope I am wrong.

Laws of Nature
Reply to  mario lento
July 31, 2020 2:15 pm

>> >>He can can barely speak for a minute without saying something totally incoherent
>> My comment is, that incompetent Joe 30330 is the best the party can get.
Are you sure he meant Biden here?
But you are absolutely right, the Democrats should be ashamed of themselves to put up a candidate like that and yes it might cost them the election, as unpopular Trump seems at the moment, the Democrats seem to have found a match for that..
Two rich old white men . . to me they seem to have more in common than differences and do not represent the America I know

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
July 27, 2020 7:18 pm

“So somehow they’ve got to get the debates cancelled without it being obvious to the public that Senile Joe can’t form two coherent sentences”

Harvard University just announced today they were cancelling the presidential debate to be held there, citing the Wuhan virus as the reason.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 27, 2020 8:51 pm

That should be Notre Dame that cancelled the presidential debate, not Harvard.

Izaak Walton
July 27, 2020 2:38 pm

There are a couple of points worth remembering. Firstly national polls in 2016 were correct. They predicted
that Clinton would win by a couple of percent and indeed that was the final margin in the popular vote.
National level polls do not however allow you to accurately predict the results in the electoral college. And indeed in 2016 the state level polls in the swing states were much closer and while they favoured Clinton a
Trump victory was within the margin of error.

Finally it is worth remembering just how close the 2016 election was. If forty thousand people had voted for Clinton rather than Trump then she would now be president. Since then Trump’s popularity has decreased and he can no longer
campaign as an outsider coming in to fix the system since he is now as much a part of the swamp as anyone else. On top
of that COVID-19 deaths keep rising and the economy is getting worse. Trump still has the advantage that he is the
incumbent but other than that it is hard to find any signs to be optimistic about a Trump victory in November.

rah
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 27, 2020 3:40 pm

Ha! Trump was supposed to have been crushed by Clinton! Some people never learn.

Izaak Walton
Reply to  rah
July 27, 2020 3:59 pm

According to who? And more importantly when? Polls from just before the election showed
about a 2% lead for Clinton which is where the popular vote ended up. A Trump victory was
always within the margin of error.

rah
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 27, 2020 5:04 pm

That’s what they always do. They’ll do it this time again. They show a massive lead for democrats over and over again through the silly season then the last week before the election all of a sudden it’s much closer. Gallup even does it.

But if you must contend that stuff doesn’t happen. https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/09/why-2016-election-polls-missed-their-mark/
Bunch more links like that but you know that I’m sure.

NYT meter on election night started with a 90% probability that Hilary would win. The young turkeys noted it’s falling over and over as they melted down and the red on the map kept growing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiWY0iRLV94

Virtually every single newscaster covering election night 2016 on the major broadcast and cable networks expressed shock or dismay when it became obvious that Trump was going to win. I know because I have watched the full election night videos of every single one of them on Youtube. Rachel Madcow and her “UH!” like she had taken a shot to the gut on air when NBC had to declare Trump the “presumptive winner” of Florida.

It all there but I’m sure you don’t want to watch it. The ONLY significant poll that had Trump winning that I can remember was that of the LA Times. Nate Silver was a big loser and had to go on and eat crow his prediction was so far off.

Izaak Walton
Reply to  rah
July 27, 2020 6:09 pm

Rah,
You are confusing two things. What the polls actually said was different to how they were interpreted. Again national level polls showed roughly a 2% margin for Clinton and indeed that was the final margin in the popular vote. But as is clear winning the popular vote and winning the electoral college are two very different things.

Trump’s victory was unlikely in 2016 since the odds of anyone losing the popular vote and winning the electoral college vote is small. So it is not surprising that people were shocked by it. What it does mean is that national level polls are a poor substitute for state level polls.

Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 27, 2020 6:22 pm

No:

You’re confusing many things. Looking back, the left came up with all kinds of hypothesis about why they were wrong… HRC has hundreds of reasons. And you get no credit for the hindcast after the fact.

I predict another land slide election. And I do not care one iota about the so-called popular vote mattering in a US election. That is not how our Republic form of government works. It’s about how the majority of the states vote… which helps keep our whole country engaged.

The issue is who will win the election, and from that standpoint, your people got it way wrong such that their reactions were all the proof you need.

J Mac
Reply to  rah
July 27, 2020 6:41 pm

It was a beautiful thing, wasn’t it? Scotch has never tasted soooo sweet!

Reply to  rah
July 27, 2020 7:34 pm

Pollsters and poll compilers doctored the results they publish to make it look like they were not that far off.
Very few polls had it anywhere close. They are highlighting a few that did to gaslight people into thinking they did not utterly fail.
How can anyone forget how it was when it happened?
I followed the polls every day for over a year ahead of that election, and I fully expected all of the pollsters and pundits would be out of a job.
But none were put out of work.
They just kept their heads down until enough time had passed that it would be less obvious to those not paying much attention what had happened at the time, then messaged and spun the numbers.

rah
Reply to  rah
July 27, 2020 11:50 pm

Izaak

I’m not confusing anything. The reason the leftist in the press were so disgruntled was because the believed the polls! That’s the reason Van Jones couldn’t explain what he called “a white lash” to his kids. That is also why the wackos demonstrated and wailed so loudly and prominently after the election. Then in the streets of DC when Trump was sworn in, have continued to do so right up to present. Why we still hear guests on news shows declaring the election of 2016 was illegitimate even now. And now, we see violence and the wanton destruction of property as the dismay and hate continues and the democrats flail to find some way to stop Orange Man Bad from getting a 2nd term after their coup attempt has failed and is gradually being exposed.

Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 27, 2020 5:07 pm

Yeah, but most people look at the average of polls, and even two weeks before the election in 2016, almost every poll had Clinton far ahead.
It is obvious hardly anyone wavers from day to day and week about who to vote for in a national election, so obviously the polls are worthless.
Trump did not close any gaps with voters in the final days.
What happened was, some of the polling services knew they had to report something like what the final totals would be on election day so they published a few unbiased polls at the last minute.
The way to gauge it properly is to realize a lot of people will not speak to pollsters, and that only a few of the polling services do honest polling.
So look at Rasmussen, and add 4-8 points for the silent voters. At least.
Why even pay attention or average in a Quinnipiac poll that gives Biden a 15 point lead nationally? On the same day Rasmussen has it within the margin of error.
The other thing is, until late August when large polls of likely voters only are beginning to be done, the polls are doubly skewed.
Polls of registered voters in July have rarely been close to the eventual result.
That can be seen on the RCP pages too.

Another thing about the RCP average…look at this page of polls from 2016. Where is the weekly poll from Rasmussen?
One or two waaaaay down the list.
They winnow the polls they compile into their average.
You can see it in real time if you follow them every day, then look at the running totals, and observe who they eliminate from the running list.

Here:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html#polls

And here:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/national_president/

Izaak Walton
Reply to  Nicholas McGinley
July 27, 2020 6:17 pm

Nicholas,
Trump gained strongly on Clinton in the final weeks of the campaign thanks to James
Comey sending the letter to congress on the 28th of October stating that the FBI was
re-opening the investigation into her use of a private email server. As a result her lead
in the polls dropped by half and this almost certainly cost her the election. See for example
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-comey-letter-probably-cost-clinton-the-election/

Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 27, 2020 6:27 pm

Izaak Walton: You are SO easy to argue with. James Comey gave HRC the advantage by not charging her with the crimes he laid out. And he did not even list all of her crimes. Please, stop rewriting history with Left talking points, memes, drivel.

Krudd Gillard of the Commondebt of Australia
Reply to  Nicholas McGinley
July 28, 2020 5:11 am

Comey was in a bind, as I understand it. He had been keeping secret for about 4 weeks that the FBI had found more potentially incriminating material on Huma’s hubby’s pc, he had made statements under oath that were at odds with that the pc evidence, he had to make more statements on oath in the near future where it would be bad for him if he had to disclose that he had kept it secret when it could have had a bearing on an election result. Also, I understand a state police department was aware of the pc and had been asking why it was being kept secret.

He was in a bad spot and so chose to disclose it and then clear her again in a couple of days as the best course of action he could take in the circumstances.

Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 27, 2020 6:05 pm

Clinton loving pundits gave Clinton a 95% chance of being elected.
First rule of politics: when you start believing your own lies, you’re in trouble. So all politicans tell lies, but the key is to know what a lie.

The Clintons and media believed their own lies.

Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
July 27, 2020 6:16 pm

Joel: Just in case Izaak Walton says that he forgets, and wishes to rewrite history, he’s a short clip to remind him that history is not so easily erased.

Izaak Walton
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
July 27, 2020 6:25 pm

Joel,
Currently out of 58 presidential elections the winner of the popular vote has been
elected 53 times, i.e. 91% of the time. So given that Clinton was ahead in the polls
by 2 percent the chances of her becoming president would have been about 95%.

To repeat, in 2016 national level polls predicted about a 2 to 3% lead for Clinton.
She won the popular vote by 2.1% which was slightly less than the polls forecast but
not significantly. But national level polls are not good indicators of state level polls which is what a lot of commentators forgot at the last election and which a significant number are still doing.

Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 28, 2020 7:09 am

Seems to me that a poll showing a lead that is within the margin of error is a poor poll to stake a “98% certain to win” claim on. I can’t recall ever hearing that about a 2% poll lead in any other political race.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
July 27, 2020 6:49 pm

Izaak Walton
Your obsession with the popular vote is ignorant. The popular vote has no meaning in a Presidential election. If you would bother to read Federalist Paper No 68 you will learn why the election of the President was designed the way it is.

Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
July 27, 2020 7:11 pm

How could anyone have been so confident in a win as Clinton and the Democratic media and pundit class were?
Because they knew they had the fix in for massive cheating.
Of every type.
Many millions of fake votes were tallied.
A glimpse of it was seen and swept under the rug during the recounts, when in one democrat stronghold after another, ballot boxes were found to be completely out of accord with the votes that were tallied. The number of ballots in the boxes was a fraction of the totals written on the outside of the boxes.
I do not know of one single person who was uncertain of who they would vote for between Clinton and Trump.
The whole notion is preposterous.
The choice was so stark it was beyond night and day.
And a careful look at certain tracking polls that were very steady all along, and that matched vote totals very closely (except of course in the big democratic cities and states with large number of illegals voting) at the end as well, shows the truth about how many people were wavering.
I never heard from a single person in any medium who was anything but very certain of how they would vote.
If one subtracts even NYC and LA from the national vote totals, the result is a Win for Trump by a huge number of votes.
There has never been an election in the US where there was not massive ballot box stuffing and all manner of other shenanigan’s in the places it could be gotten away with, which are those precincts with massive Democratic majorities, mainly in the big cities.

They were confident of a win because they knew the fix was in and it was massive.
But they underestimated the amount they would need to cheat by…by a lot.
Millions of extra votes in some large cities will not matter when those cities cannot outweigh a whole state in which the city sits. And huge cheating in a few states will not alter the electoral college results over the whole country.
And that is the rarely spoken genius of the electoral college.
Election fraud was well known to the framers.
They knew that a few big cities, even way back then, could fix an election by fake votes if there were elections where a fake vote in NYC could cancel out a real vote in rural Tennessee.
The full meaning of “the tyranny of the majority” goes beyond the usual prosaic definition.
Everyone knew that James Comey had given Hillary a pass on charges that if investigated for real and not whitewashed, would have put her in prison, and even if she skated on some technicality or trial rigging, would have taken her out of the election.
There was no one who was hanging on what James Comey said before the election.
He had cleared her in his press conference in July when he had no authority or precedent for doing so, and did so on the basis of a rationale that had no basis in law. The FBI does not decide what evidence merits prosecution. And intent does not nullify or even mitigate the charges she was being investigated for. And investigators are not the arbiters of intent. Juries can do that…not police.

All that was, was another thing for people who had lost to blame something or someone, anything or anyone, but themselves and running a bad candidate and a bad campaign.
In all the time since, she has not stopped blaming anything she could think of as long as it had nothing to do with her or the will of the people.

rah
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
July 28, 2020 12:26 am

Tom in Florida

The leftists refuse to understand that our Constitution is set up so it is the states which elect the POTUS and not the individuals. The popular vote is irrelevant to the results. And now days it not even relevant in indicating what the true will of the majority of citizens is because leftist states are allowing non-citizens to vote in massive numbers.

Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 27, 2020 4:41 pm

At this point in 2016 the polls were almost the same in terms of national vote totals.
And there will be a lot more people this time who will simply not tell some stranger on the phone how they will vote.
Even the exit polls on election day in 2016 were way off in the states that mattered.
You have to look at the polling internals.
They are all oversampling Democrats and large cities.
Almost half of African Americans are polling for Trump, and about 35% of the Hispanic vote.
Either of those holding true on election day makes this election a landslide for Trump.

The polls may be disconcerting, but only if one accepts them at face value.
And as you said, National polls have nothing to do with it anyway.

Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 27, 2020 4:43 pm

The rules of the Presidential election game haven’t changed in 240 years, i.e. the electoral college. So to claim Clinton team of professional managers didn’t understand that and that national polls meant anything except for talking points is hogwash. The campaign managers deeply understand that it is at the swing states where the Presidential race is won or lost.

Both Trump and Clinton campaigns and National parties pay big bucks for and run “private-confidential polling in key counties in key states. That is very different from the kinds of polling the media networks or universities pay for and run. Everyone is those campaigns know that. Apparently Izaak you DO NOT.
And both parties and candidates are paying for private polling again today.

In 2016 Clinton’s team was confident they had Florida in the run up to election day. When their polling model for Florida flopped, they knew they were in trouble because if it flopped there it likely was not accurate for Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, or Michigan. They knew they had ignored those other key states , where they failed to make visits in the final weeks.
Wasn’t even close there in Florida the final tally, it was 49.0% Trump and 47.8% Clinton, but in Florida that difference was over 110,000 votes deficit for Clinton. Clinton team’s FL polling likely that it was 110,000 the other way. People just aren;t telling the truth even to private polls today. Once Florida was called for Trump on election night, a cold chill and deep silence fell across the Clinton gathered partiers at the Javits Center. They knew what that meant for her path to victory.

MarkW
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 27, 2020 7:03 pm

Prior to the election, the media was calling for an electoral landslide in favor of Hillary.

sycomputing
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 27, 2020 7:51 pm

Izaak I notice you appear to be somewhere in the EU:

“And indeed in 2016 the state level polls in the swing states were much closer and while they favoured Clinton a Trump victory was within the margin of error.”

I also notice you spend a great deal of time, both in this thread and throughout other articles at WUWT commenting on the ills and woes (or so you would argue) of an American president.

I’m just curious, what is it about this man that has him living in your non-American head rent free? Similarly with Loydo, Ghalfrunt, Stokes, etc.?

You realize he hasn’t a clue that you exist don’t you?

Anyway, I guess I should care what Boris Johnson, Merkel or the PM of Australia is doing (no offense, what’s his/her name again?) but I find myself thinking how most of my tomorrows are now yesterdays and how ridiculous it seems to be to giving you yanks much of a second thought, other than the tax dollars that OUGHT to be spent on my fellow Americans going to YOUR military defense (thankfully Trump has been trying to see that debacle corrected).

And then I think how ridiculous it would be even if most of my tomorrows were YET tomorrow and I gave it more than a passing thought what Boris or Damen Merkel or whomever that Aussie guy or gal is (no offense, love Aussie land and all that) doing every minute of every day of my existence.

So what is it? What is it that makes you and these others do such research into, e.g., the 2016 election between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton, and further, to keep TABS on Trump after your girl lost?

Don’t you have a life in the EU that means more than this?

Izaak Walton
Reply to  sycomputing
July 27, 2020 8:52 pm

Sycomputing,
The reason is simple. I got hooked on american politics when I read “Fear and Loathing on
the Campaign Trail” by Hunter S. Thompson. In terms of pure spectacle it is hard to beat,
even if no-one now-a-days to even come close to matching Thompson. And I even own
Nixon memorabilia from the 72 campaign.

sycomputing
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 27, 2020 9:03 pm

Okay I gotcha now!

Well that at least makes sense, Izaak. I’m glad to hear it’s a hobby!

I guess your fascination must be something akin to many Americans fascination with, e.g., Lady “Di,” and the royal family in general.

High Treason
July 27, 2020 2:39 pm

Joe Biden has let it accidentally slip that he is the transitional candidate. He will have to step down to allow the real candidate to step in to the convenient vacuum- Michelle Obama/ Hillary Clinton ticket.
The media all claim that Trump is on the nose, but this is a massive lie.
WHY?
Could it be the Democrats are trying to steal the election by massive voter fraud? Fraudulent poll numbers to fool the People that the result matched the predictions? Mail-in ballots can be very easily rigged. It will be only too easy to print millions of ballot papers to stuff the ballot boxes to overflowing.

If I had just ONE message to get through the very thick heads of the sheeple, it is that the media have been controlled by evil forces since before almost any of us were born. We have been fed a constant diet of misinformation. The cAGW fraud realisation will follow on from the recognition of media. Those responsible will scream ever louder to avoid the truth ever being revealed. They know the People will be angry if they ever find out how they had been lied to.

It is up to us to turn the sheeple in to the People.

niceguy
Reply to  High Treason
July 27, 2020 3:50 pm

I believe the DNC has already designated Joe “wife of Joe Biden” Biden. What is the procedure for changing the nomination?

Reply to  niceguy
July 27, 2020 4:41 pm

There has been no nomination yet.

whiten
July 27, 2020 2:44 pm

But… but…but;
Biden is the very “secret” weapon of the zombies… a proper plain brain dead champ.
What could ever possibly go wrong there!

cheers

July 27, 2020 3:21 pm

Electorate might not like Trump all that much but they are scared senseless over the left wing nut jobs that have hijacked the Democratic party.

And many like me absolutely DETEST the lying, rabble rousing, fact free, riot inciting, fake news MSM propaganda machine.

rah
July 27, 2020 3:29 pm

Ha! This trucker has been very busy and so after a month I finally got in to my barber to get my hair cut on Saturday morning. As I sat down in my masked barbers chair I said “Don’t worry, this Ronahysteria will be over in November.” He laughed and said “You know, I and about 95% of my customers agree with you.”

Now I live in a historically democrat town since at one time GM and and UAW were kings here. Delco Remy was founded here as was Guidelamp. And for so many of his customers to get it, bodes well for Trump and the Republicans in general.

BTW, look for the riots. or what the leftist media call “mostly peaceful demonstrations” to start ramping down pretty quickly. Indications are the democrats are seeing a negative effect in their internal polls, both local and national.

Reply to  rah
July 27, 2020 5:14 pm

I just shook my head at the “peaceful protest” in Austin Texas. Apparently so “peaceful” yet where one of the BLM protestors openly carrying an AK-47 and part of a crowd stopping cars and banging on them then gets shot and killed by CCP carrying driver when the blocked his truck and started banging on it. The BLM/AK- guy points his gun at the driver when he gets out. The AK guy gets dropped. Go figure.

Justice. Texas-style.

MarkW
Reply to  rah
July 27, 2020 7:08 pm

I think it was NBC last night who had an anchor talking about how the peaceful demonstrations intensified.

Reply to  MarkW
July 27, 2020 9:02 pm

I saw that!
That was just how they said it too.

niceguy
July 27, 2020 3:32 pm

People watch political/commentary/news on TV, or polemical content, for a bunch of reasons, but in general people who often tune in on political content mostly agree with it. (Very few people actually watch a segment to know the discourse of the enemy to refute it. Or they do it a bunch of times then give up.)

My indicator is how many people (“bots” rarely watch TV) watch Tucker Carlson or Sean Hannity or Laura Ingraham, vs how many watch Rachel Maddow or Don Lemon or Joy Reid or Brian Stetler or Ari Melber or Chris Cuomo or Chris Hayes … or even “Republican” Joe Scarborough.

Al in Cranbrook
Reply to  niceguy
July 27, 2020 4:13 pm

From Canada…

Several months back I gassed my “News Channel” package from cable supplier, got rid of all of them save for Fox News, and the CBC because it’s automatic up here. I won’t let the Liberal/Left media darken my living room any more with their crap.

Oddly enough a couple months later CNN & MSNBC started showing up for free, apparently in hopes I would add them to my package…hell will freeze over first!!!

Tucker Carlson has been on fire of late. Calling it like it really is, like nobody else. Mark Levin is always worth a listen, too.

July 27, 2020 3:57 pm

How many of the Facebook likes and followers come from the Internet Research Agency?

July 27, 2020 4:34 pm

Goya salesman:
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No wonder he’s got so many followers

MarkW
Reply to  Henry Pool
July 27, 2020 7:10 pm

Hank will always believe whatever he’s paid to believe.

DailyKos? Really?

Codetrader
July 27, 2020 4:56 pm

George Webb is an investigative reporter that Youtube recently banned by removing his 4 years of on topic research-4000 videos and comment history by 105K subscribers.

He moved over to Parler.com where the editor promised free speech and was banned after 6 weeks.

He recently revealed the people behind Covid19, Antifa and the weaponized DNC. He names names and not one of the people he “outs” has filed any lawsuits against him. But people want him silenced!!!

He has 63.2K followers https://twitter.com/GeorgWebb.

niceguy
July 27, 2020 4:57 pm

Re: US politics

Vasillios Pistolis, a Marine, was featured prominently in a May 3 report on current and former U.S. military personnel who are involved in white supremacist hate groups. According to the report, Pistolis who bragged about beating people at a white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Va.

https://www.stripes.com/news/us/marine-accused-of-white-supremacist-ties-is-headed-to-prison-1.533961

At that points, looks legit. But see:
https://taskandpurpose.com/.image/c_limit%2Ccs_srgb%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_1200/MTcwNjAwMjc5MjAxMDMxODMx/18988181.webp

What kind of @zi has only very recently unfolded flag? The kind we have in Europe loves real old authentic Reich stuff…

Is that for real? I am the only one suspecting something very dirty (Mulder-esque) here?

Reply to  niceguy
July 27, 2020 6:17 pm

The US is probably the least racist country on Earth.
There are virtually no white supremacists here.
The number is vanishingly tiny, both in absolute number and as a percentage of the 330,000,000+ people here.
The number of white people in the US who are even slightly racist is a small minority.

It is complete bullshit, made up out of whole cloth.
Political propaganda, nothing more.

What we do have is an increasing number of people getting very tired of being falsely assigned some hateful state of mind.
If you want to know who the racists are, just listen to how people talk, and what they write.
Listen to that DiAngelo chick.
She categorizes everyone and claims it will always be the way she says.
The thing is, there is no reason on Earth to think she knows anything about anyone except herself.
She claims to know everyone on Earth better than any of them know anything about themselves.
But no one knows other people better than those others know themselves.
She does not even give any indication of being insightful in any way, let alone an all seeing psychic, or a messiah.
What she is, is an ideologue.
Hard to say if she is simply delusional, or if perhaps she set out to see how many people she could gaslight into being told that they do not know who they themselves are…but she knows, and it ain’t pretty.
The insight to be gleaned from such people, is insight into how such people themselves think and what they believe.
There is not even any internal logic to her BS.
The sooner the people who know her crap for what it is, find the courage to stand up and say so, the better off everyone will be.
Appeasing people with a tyrannical mindset has never been a good idea, and never will be.

For a look at how people who know how to think look at this issue…one they have studied their whole lives, read this article (of which I do not agree with every word, but it is at least fair from the perspective of the writer, who is very insightful, though well to the left) and watch this video, linked below.
If one hesitates to watch an hour video, watch the first comment from each panelist, then decide if it is worth your time:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/07/dehumanizing-condescension-white-fragility/614146/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHGt733yw3g

sycomputing
Reply to  Nicholas McGinley
July 27, 2020 8:48 pm

The US is probably the least racist country on Earth.

Disagree. There are millions (and growing) who are disciples of Progressivism.

Reply to  sycomputing
July 27, 2020 10:17 pm

I understand what you are saying, and do not disagree.
I was speaking of people with overt racist views.
The racism of people who think that some people are unable to get an ID, therefore it is unfair to require it, practice a form of racism that is qualitatively different than most people are talking about when discussing things like organized white supremacy movements and organizations.
I was referring to the kind of racism that has a component of active hate.

sycomputing
Reply to  Nicholas McGinley
July 28, 2020 8:01 am

I was referring to the kind of racism that has a component of active hate.

Right, you mean this kind of progressive racist hatred for instance:

https://tinyurl.com/y4f7deha

https://tinyurl.com/yxdhrjm7

https://tinyurl.com/yxmxunrb

https://tinyurl.com/y5fqjfyw

https://tinyurl.com/yxv5uvb4

https://tinyurl.com/y8s2jvva

https://tinyurl.com/y3fr3huh

The kind that’s destroying both private and government property, getting people hurt and killed. The kind that’s calling for segregation, etc.

The kind of progressivism that appears to be becoming mainstream?

MarkW
Reply to  Nicholas McGinley
July 28, 2020 10:42 am

Those who believe that believe that it is impossible for people of color to succeed, unless a white liberal is leading the way.

sycomputing
Reply to  MarkW
July 28, 2020 11:14 am

Agreed.

And speaking of which:

New Program Helps People Of Color Adopt A White Liberal To Speak On Their Behalf

MENLO PARK, CA—A new nonprofit organization is teaming up with app developers to help people of color find and adopt white liberals to speak for them. The program is called Adopt A Voice and will help people of black and brown descent express what they truly desire, think, and mean to say.

“I signed up for it,” said African American Bradley Trent from Columbus, Ohio. “They paired me up with a 37-year-old white girl named Claire who claims to be bisexual but as far as I can tell she just really likes cats.”

When asked what his opinion of the program was, Claire responded on Bradley’s behalf, “Bradley is just so grateful to have his voice heard especially on key issues like women’s right to choose, climate change, and especially trans issues.”

Bradley later commented, “I had no idea that’s what I meant to say. Amazing.”

“At Adopt a Voice we know that speaking and thinking for yourself can be challenging. We have a huge team of interpreters who know exactly what ethnic minorities are really thinking, what they really want, and what they really mean to say,” said program director Eve Zohar. “We know that every person of color will thank us for what we say on their behalf, and if they don’t they hate themselves.”

To adopt a white liberal of your own, visit the Adopt A Voice website or download the app and sign up today.

https://babylonbee.com/news/new-program-helps-people-of-color-adopt-a-white-liberal-to-speak-on-their-behalf

Reply to  sycomputing
July 28, 2020 11:40 am

Given the headlines I’ve seen recently, you almost had me with that one, until I saw it was the Bee.

Poe’s law is out in full force lately.

sycomputing
Reply to  Nicholas McGinley
July 28, 2020 1:46 pm

“. . . you almost had me with that one, until I saw it was the Bee.”

Bee informed!

niceguy
Reply to  Nicholas McGinley
July 28, 2020 10:09 pm

“believe that it is impossible for people of color to succeed”
or even get a photo ID.

Reply to  niceguy
July 27, 2020 6:20 pm

And for anyone who has not seen it, or has not watched it again recently, I urge giving this video 16 minutes of your time.
It is only, IMO, the single most powerful statement any man has ever given, anywhere, ever, on this Earth:

https://youtu.be/smEqnnklfYs

Rich Davis
July 27, 2020 5:16 pm

For what little it’s worth, my assessment…

In most of the country, the election results are preordained. For example in my home state of Connecticut there is more chance that Ronald Reagan will rise from the dead than that Trump will come within ten points of winning the state. So what difference does it make if I vote or stay home? Don’t get me wrong, I always vote. But it’s easy to understand those who don’t see a point.

In those parts of the country where there really is a competitive race, I think the Republican base is as solid or even more solid than in 2016. But the base is maybe 30%. The Dem base is also about 30%. This means one of two things must happen for either side to win. Either attract a majority of the largely non-political unaffiliated voters with your positive message, or demoralize the other side’s base and leaning-opposition voters so that they stay home or vote for a third party candidate. Expect ugly and profoundly negative. Speaking of third party, the Birthday Party? Please. I don’t think so.

For that unaffiliated bloc of voters, Trump fatigue is a thing. They might agree with Trump on many topics but they’re sick of having to keep it to themselves to avoid arguments. Relationships with friends and family are much more important to them than politics. They may still vote for Trump but probably won’t influence anyone else to do so. On balance I see this is currently negative for Trump.

Here are the top 5 factors I expect to drive the outcome in swing states;

1) Direction of economy
2) COVID outlook
3) Law and Order/BLM
4) Biden’s VP
5) Scandals & Gaffes

Obviously the media will pull out all the stops to talk the economy down and make the covid response look feckless. Trump better up his game. Right now it feels like a toss up trending south. A negative trend on either topic spells doom. Nothing new will seem like a negative. These two factors will decide the election. Everything else is marginal.

I see BLM as a negative for Biden right now with swing voters. He can only turn it neutral with a mild Sistah Soulja moment that neutralizes Trump’s Law & Order flip side of the issue, seizing middle ground. So I expect that tactic, especially since he can probably only choose Harris as VP. She can either embrace her negatives in the Dem base and play the pragmatic law & order role, or be constantly in awkward positions pretending to support defunding the police. If the Dems go that route though, it risks having the base revolt. As long as Trump’s interventions don’t yield BLM martyrs, this one looks to favor Trump.

As I mentioned, Biden doesn’t have good options for his VP candidate since he has pledged that XX chromosomes are more important than qualifications based on skill and experience and also that a robust melanin production is relevant. He’s pretty much painted himself into a corner labelled Kamala Harris. Any other choice is likely to freak out the middle America swing voters. Doddering Joe looks an even bet to leave office early, so the VP qualifications to lead the free world will be more relevant than ever. Harris is easily vulnerable to being seen as not ready for the Oval Office, and at the same time, her past law enforcement roles won’t make the BLM wokesters happy. My gut says swing voters aren’t ready to vote for Harris based strictly on selling points that she has ovaries and dark skin. Call it racist and sexist if you like, a lot of people want to judge the candidates on the content of their character rather than on the color of their skin and on their foreign policy experience rather than their experience with menstrual periods. Fair or not, it looks a lot like Biden is prioritizing box checking on race and sex over qualifications. All the racists and sexists who like that sort of quota system are already in Biden’s camp. Score this one likely to favor Trump.

Scandals are another wildcard. Do the Dems have an October Surprise cooked up? 100:1 odds says of course they do. Probably one a week. Will anything stick to Teflon Don? Probably not. What about the Durham probe? I don’t even know that there will be meaningful indictments, but if there are, they will inflame both bases about equally while the swing voters will probably tune out and be turned off, just like impeachment. I score the scandals slightly for Biden. Expect some kind of tax return shenanigans with very heavy media support. All scandal stories depend on the media. Anything Trump wants out there will need to be in paid advertising. So it’s inherently an uneven playing field.

Who can predict gaffes? Both candidates seem immune. Anybody who can forget which woman is his wife and refer to dogfaced pony soldiers, but still lead the polls is a candidate who isn’t likely to say something even more whacked out that will make a big difference. Biden can bark at the moon naked and his base will ignore it just as surely as grab’em by the p*ssy isn’t going to deter any evangelical pastors. However, I do sense that the dementia meme could provide undecided voters with a rationale for voting Trump, and reluctant Biden voters a reason to stay home. So a slight edge to Trump on gaffes, offsetting the scandals.

In summary a slight edge to Trump, but the most important factors haven’t played out yet and are largely outside of his control.

Reply to  Rich Davis
July 28, 2020 5:57 pm

In 2016 we had the Blue Wall.
For 8 years I had leftist friends and relatives tell me and everyone else that because of demographics, there would never be a Republican President again.
When in 2010 Rd took back Congress, they explained it away…blah blah blah.
No one thought Nixon or Reagan would wind up with the landslides they had.
Mobs burning down cities has a way of changing some people’s minds about who to vote for.
No state is safe for a party, when it becomes a question of how insane they have become.
There are states attorneys general saying the riots in Portland are peaceful protests. With a straight face.
Who wants to bet there will be gunfights, bombs, and homes burned before election day?
Let’s see how things go and then we will review.
The day after election day 2016, the Rs had their strongest political position in at least 90 years, and possibly ever when state governments were considered.
Snakes like Paul Ryan, Jeff Flake, John McCain, and their ilk prevented many things that were clearly mandated by the election.
Then the deep state treason crap…
IMO, this election will gauge how many people can be gaslighted at the whim of propagandists.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Nicholas McGinley
July 28, 2020 7:34 pm

Your argument isn’t mathematically impossible of course. If independents were to split 3:1 for Trump, he could duplicate Reagan’s glorious triumph.

How affectionately I remember 1984. It was certainly never realistically in doubt that the Gipper was going to win.

1984 was the first and ONLY time that my vote was for the candidate who won my state’s electoral votes. I am pretty sure that I need to move to Oklahoma if I ever want to win again.

Reagan won nearly 59% of the popular vote. He won Massachusetts and New York! I personally know Democrats who voted for him. Ronald Reagan most likely won the same number of votes from independents and Democrats as he got from his base Republicans. Let’s be real. Donald Trump is no Ronald Reagan.

I also vaguely remember 1972. Nixon was not well liked. Pretty much vilified. Maybe Nixon and Trump have something in common. And yes, Nixon also pulled off a landslide with over 60% of the popular vote. But he wasn’t polling down double digits in July.

I’d love to see it, but well, good luck with that.

niceguy
Reply to  Rich Davis
July 28, 2020 10:46 pm

Accusation of not paying taxes?
Done
Accusation of cheating on wife?
Done
Accusation of being a predator?
Done
Accusation of being a Russian asset?
Done

They already used a LOT of cards.

William Astley
July 27, 2020 5:47 pm

There are three planned Trump – Biden debates

Likely the debates will be limited to yes or no questions and/or multiple choice. The other possibility is Biden will have a live ‘coach’ who will read Biden’s responses.

The first US presidential debate between Trump and Joe Biden is planned to take place in Cleveland on 29 September.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53562432

Comment:
As an interesting aside. About 15 years ago, there was a tech war book written, that had a China virus attack on the US, that was started by the Chinese attacking themselves.

A year, or so after the first book was published, there was a second book, same scenario written, except that the second book had the US winning … Because China later in the book was attacked by their own AI.

Both books, it was speculated, where written by military think tanks, to get public reaction on the scenario, as the books included a US/China economic war…

… which some believed, at that time, a US/China economic war was inevitable, due to uncontrollable spending in the US. The first book, it was speculated, was written by the Chinese and the second book by the US.

I read the second book. The Republicans were in office and there was an election planned, however, it never happened. The Democrats were acting strangely. I will not spoil the surprise and tell you why the US election was cancelled.

And this is the part I find spooky. The US book, had the Chinese let their AI control a harmless propaganda outlet, to gain experience, early in the story.

Unfortunately, the Chinese AI makes a mistake concerning the understanding of the nuisance of language concerning life and death from a human standpoint … And is removed from outside control. That event started the Chinese AI problem when the AI was thoughtless and cruelly, isolated.

I thought this was an imagine use of language. I understood the intent, while some might not.

Chinese State Media Killer Flood Waters Are Like ‘Naughty Kids Who Want to Go Out and Play’
https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3972343

niceguy
Reply to  William Astley
July 28, 2020 10:40 pm

Debates on Zoom?

That way you can’t tell if they are being coached.

Earl Smith
July 27, 2020 6:01 pm

What is so unusual? We had the American Protective League back during Wilson’s administration. With full backing of the Attorney General they recruited a quarter million toughs to “physically persuade” Americans who disagreed with the Democrat policies.

Earthling2
July 27, 2020 6:19 pm

My gut feeling is that it will be Susan Rice for VP. She is competent, and would probably be a bit more pragmatic than most other black women. She is intelligent, experienced to some degree and effective, but unfortunately she was a dyed in the wool Obama groupie. She would probably see off the worst of the present Democrat curse, but here’s hoping that Trump and the Republicans make a clean sweep of both Houses and the White House. This is the only hope for the future of Western civilization as we have known it the last 75-100 years.

Reply to  Earthling2
July 27, 2020 6:40 pm

Facts render your opinion of Rice as False:

Off the top of my head…
Susan is seen as the useful idiot that she is:

Recall going on talk shows to lie about Benghazi to cover for Obama and HRC?

Recall how under oath she did a 180 degree on her so called evidence of Russia Collusion? Yes she lied in public and to America.

Recall her not to self? By the book?

Recall her claims “Obama admin absolutely did no spying on …”

Recall this weekend, Susan Rice claims ZT1 (the officer’s unique marking to track who he is) is a private unmarked militia?

How many wrong things need to come out of Rices face for you to think she’s stupid?

Good grief

Earthling2
Reply to  mario lento
July 27, 2020 8:14 pm

Not that I endorse Susan Rice, but four black women are on the short list, although Creepy Sleepy Senile Joe has not committed to a black woman at all, yet. But I think Susan probably has more ‘curb’ appeal than any other black women, perhaps Michelle Obama notwithstanding. I don’t know if Michele Obama is even on the list or has privately accepted to be on that list already, but some of the other black women probably on the list, like Stacey Abrams would be a very polarizing candidate for the Democrat Party and would seal its fate to the biggest loss in the history of the USA.

I would hope that poor old Joe would pick Stacey Abrams, and then it wouldn’t even be a race. In fact, if the Democrats pick any black woman, I think that will be enough to ensure DJT is elected with one of the biggest majorities ever. Which is why a black woman probably won’t be picked. But if a black woman is picked and it isn’t Michelle Obama, then I would think Susan Rice would probably pass the Democrat test. But I agree with all your comments about how she shilled for Obama and all that corruption for 8 years. We will know in less than a month. I am hoping he does pick a black woman. He is under a lot of pressure to do so.

MarkW
Reply to  Earthling2
July 28, 2020 10:45 am

After all the hoopla over picking a black woman, if Creepy Joe doesn’t pick one, the black turnout this year will be one of the lowest on record.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Earthling2
July 27, 2020 6:54 pm

How is Susan Rice competent to be President? She has absolutely no executive experience.

Reply to  Tom in Florida
July 27, 2020 7:00 pm

Worse than that, she’s a complete fool… It’s hard to believe how absolutely dumb she looks when her lips move. Everyone knows it who has a slight clue what’s been going on, or they just don’t know stuff.

MarkW
Reply to  Tom in Florida
July 28, 2020 10:46 am

I’d love to be able to rub Susan Rice under the noses of every Democrat who proclaimed that Sarah Pallin didn’t have the experience to be president.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Earthling2
July 27, 2020 7:03 pm

Admittedly Rice would resolve the lack of foreign policy aspect that weakens Harris, but does she have any other experience? Her baldfaced lies about Benghazi would be a liability that could be exploited and she’s a likely target of the Durham probe. That would be one way to make that probe relevant to swing voters. If you’re going to have a thin resume where you have never won elective office at any level, you at least ought to have some successes to point to in your one area of supposed expertise.

Reply to  Rich Davis
July 27, 2020 8:57 pm

+++

Reply to  Earthling2
July 27, 2020 7:21 pm

Except she has never received a single vote in any election ever.
has there ever been such a pick?
She spent the vast majority of her career as a low level political appointee, and her education was in history and international relations.
She has never had a job she was not appointed to, never ran anything she built herself, rarely even managed much of a staff, and has no background in law or the military, or any of the other types of resume items that have always been considered a requirement for high office.
Besides whatever else it is, it would be a slap in the face of every democratic elected official.
And there has never been anyone so close to being elected President who was anywhere close to so unlikely to finish out a four year term…on age and health alone.

It is hard to say you are not going to be correct though…because they are in a real pickle for, among other reasons, the reasons stated above by Dr. Istvan.