
Guest essay by Eric Worrall
Anthony Fauci, Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease, has just suggested Americans don’t believe science.
Anthony Fauci: Americans ‘Don’t Believe Science and They Don’t Believe Authority’
JOSHUA CAPLAN 18 Jun 2020
Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, served up harsh criticism of Americans on Thursday, asserting that the country suffers from what he described as an “anti-science bias” problem.
“One of the problems we face in the United States is that unfortunately, there is a combination of an anti-science bias that people are — for reasons that sometimes are, you know, inconceivable and not understandable — they just don’t believe science and they don’t believe authority,” Fauci told the Learning Curve podcast, which is produced by the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).
“So when they see someone up in the White House, which has an air of authority to it, who’s talking about science, that there are some people who just don’t believe that — and that’s unfortunate because, you know, science is truth,” Fauci continued, referring to the White House coronavirus task force’s once-daily briefings.
“It’s amazing sometimes the denial there is, it’s the same thing that gets people who are anti-vaxxers, who don’t want people to get vaccinated, even though the data clearly indicate the safety of vaccines,” he added. “That’s really a problem.”
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Read more: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/18/anthony-fauci-americans-dont-believe-science-and-they-dont-believe-authority/
The words were spoken in an episode of “Learning Curve”, hosted by the US Department of Health and Human Services. The “don’t believe science” comments are made around the 15 minute mark.
The following is a short excerpt from the full interview of Dr. Fauci speaking the quoted words:
Fauci also said people should believe him and trust him, because of his long track record of always speaking the truth, through six administrations.
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Dear Dr Fauci;
Can you please show me where in the scientific method it calls for “belief”?
No you can’t because it’s not in there.
Can you show me where it says “consensus of experts was reached” or “the majority of scientists say so”?
No you can’t because it’s not in there.
So what is the scientific method based on? Predictions, predictions and more predictions. Here is a refresher for you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7YcimsISUk
Now Dr Fauci can you please tell us what predictions you and your “authority” figures in science got right on this issue?
I’m glad I could help you out there fella now STFU and PFO.
Fauci Doesn’t know what science is. It is not expert opinion.
Let me correct that headline:
Americans don’t believe Fauci.
Nor any other government promoted expert.
Good grief, how often can you change positions 180 degrees, get it wrong, exaggerate. We have the same problem in Canada with a “Dr.” (once) Tam.
Dr. Fauci didn’t sound like a scientist to me!
And from where does he gain his authority? I’ve never seen his name on a ballot!
The arrogance of this guy is nauseating. Americans DO believe in science….but he hasn’t been spouting “science”.
“They just don’t believe science and they don’t believe authority”. Those are two completely different things. Not surprised that Herr Fauci doesn’t know that.
Fauci, your appeals to your authority are not science. You are the perfect example of Sowell’s “Annointed”. Be gone! You are the deplorable one. Go kiss the Hildabeast’s feet.
Maybe if I was shown some real science and not the money hungry, politically motivated garbage that is passed off as science today, I might start believing in it again.
I dont believe “political” scientists, and computer models.
“Fauci also said people should believe him and trust him, because of his long track record” of being completely wrong and lying about Covid-19 …. Just to correct the record. Science is not a religion and people do not need to believe in it.
Here in Germany we have a new hotspot with about 700 new infections one ofthe last days, the last hotspots too, in an industrial slaughter house . Now the are closing again schools etc.
But R0 isn’t concerned, is proclaimed. Why ?
For staying permanently below 1.0, the changed the way to define the R0 value.
The use now average last 8 days new infected / average the last 8 days before the first ones, so they tell to be at 0.86 or so.
The earlier way was to calculate only with 4 days, and than you get, surprise, surprise, a value of today 2.09, before 2.14 and one day earlier 2.29
They are so good, aren’t they ? 😀
I call that self-deception.
That case and a few others in Germany, mirror exactly the US meatpacker hotspots, for exactly the same reason – pure slave labor conditions, people packed in accommodation after shift. Germany will now try labor law. But the real cause is the cartel of only a few giant meat-packers making profits, paying farmers less than parity.
Interesting how monetarist economics kills.
And instead of that truth, they run after a Ribosome with Sherlock’s microscope looking for Moriarty.
No wonder they cannot figure an R0.
The fact that Fauci says science rather than the scientific method makes it abundantly clear he doesn’t understand the scientific method. Of course we already knew this since he quoted computer models (ie, part of the establish a hypothesis step if the scientific method) as if they were the measurements step of the scientific method.
I don’t- believe in Klimate sience, or models of any sort (Klimate, Pandemic or other) and the biased liars who always seem to be touting them for the benefit of UN Agenda 21.
The problem surely is that there rarely is THE science, there’s a range of scientific opinions on many subjects, including epidemiology (and climate, obviously), and just “trusting the science” give no guidance as to WHICH expert to prefer. The Swedes for instance, have a law that only scientists are allowed to make health related decisions – the result has been that their trusted scientist has recommended a completely different course from what Fauci would. So “trusting the science” has led to diametrically opposite responses in each case.
Well good scientists often agree to disagree. So they still could have used science and down the opposite!
“One of the problems we face in the United States is that unfortunately, there is a combination of an anti-science bias that people are — for reasons that sometimes are, you know, inconceivable and not understandable — they just don’t believe science and they don’t believe authority”
We weren’t allowed to question drug companies when they paid scientists to tell us thalidomide was safe for pregnant women.
>>>Because, they said, the science was incontrovertible.
We weren’t allowed to question oil companies when they paid scientists to tell us that cars wouldn’t run on unleaded fuel.
>>> Because, they said, you couldn’t argue with science.
We weren’t allowed to question the Nazis when they paid scientists to tell us that Jews, gays, and gypsies were subhuman.
>>> Because, they said, the science was beyond question.
We weren’t allowed to question sugar manufacturers when they paid Harvard scientists to tell us sugar was good for us.
>>> Because, they said, the science was unassailable.
We weren’t allowed to question our government when they paid scientists to tell us agent orange was not a health risk for veterans.
>>> Because, they said, the science was settled.
Why can’t we question the government when they pay scientists to tell us the world will end if we don’t wear a mask and stop global warming.
For thousands of years ordinary people have been questioning scientists, their governments, and religious institutions.
Asking questions of the powerful should never be a crime nor a reason for ridicule.
Where do you find all these straw men? Sources?
Follow the science is asking people to believe everything they’re told whether their is evidence or not. It’s suggesting we are too stupid to understand the science and shouldn’t question anything. All theories which suggest predictive outcomes are based on assumptions.Those assumptions are influenced by the biases that are held by the person making them and are designed to provide the outcome that one wants are expects. It is always easy to identify from the assumptions whether a theory makes sense. Confirmation bias makes people wary of scientific conclusions especially where the scientist gains some personal benefit ( either financial or political)
I would be interested the hear Fauci explain the differences between practicing medicine on a heard of cattle vs a group of humans. I’m sure he’s well meaning, but it seems he’s forgotten that his role is to represent and educate. America isn’t his Zoo, and we aren’t mindless beasts.
No, we don’t, because you keep lying.
Fauci ought to read the climate gate emails and then go over to retractionwatch. In addition, scientists are human and just as prone to human shortcomings as us non-scientists, and many, if not most of them, are leftists.
I question science when I can sense that it’s science that can be used for policy makers to enact some more left-wing tentacle laws on us.
I just want to say there are some really excellent posts on here tonight.
Fauci: Americans “Don’t Believe Science”.
No no no. Americans do believe in science. They just do not believe Fauci who has contradicted himself too many times.
The best thing Trump can do is kick this little pip squeak out of White House press conferences.
Carefully, or we will have impeachment 2.0…
There is no “2.0”, it never stopped. Continuation, its how leftist keep all their anti-American crap going.
The Atlanticist journal openly praises the use of a color revolution against Trump, exactly on the lines of the Ukraine Maidan. They even quote approvingly the color ideologue Gene Sharp.
So Maidan has come home to roost.
Just read an article quoting one of Black Lies Matter founders stating their only goal is removing Trump. So much for all that racial equality they keep screeching about.
Gene Sharp in action. There is systemic racism, but blame it all on the figure to be removed. Find other problems, such as right now the lockdown, unemployment, and as Russian Ambassador pointed out there were 40 million unemployed before COVID. The virus exposed the massive economic problem Trump was actually elected to deal with.
It could be the virus will upturn the color revolution, something Gene Sharp missed.
Impeachment was not about “Ukraine”. It was only Trump-Russia rebranded. Ukraine was just a new label because the consumer got bored with the “muh Russia” thing.
So impeachment was already Mueller 2.0, which was just the continuity of the Flynn thing, which was essentially the craziest interpretation of the Logan act… plus the “dossier” plus Jesus doing arm-wrestling with Satan plus the idea that “Russia, please recover the State secretary acid washed emails” means “Russia, please hack the DNC servers and please phish Podesta”.
2Hotel9 and niceguy: You’re both right. I was being hasty. That’s why I love this site. It’s amazing how uninformed the Left is on all of this.
I literally just posted quotes from BLM after someone whom I know never visited their website, and stated 100% support for them. The response to the following quotes form BLM was that I was twisting their words into my own making and then he gave me a link to Hitler on Wiki.: I did not call him a moron, but he is.
Quotes from BLM website
“We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and villages. ”
“We call for a national defunding of police.”
“White Supremacy is threatening our existence.”
Dr. Fauci confuses models used in science with science itself; ie, the stepwise inquiry into nature. Dr. Fauci uses models to predict the future, the future of the coronavirus pandemic. As in all models, all his and everyone else’s models are wrong. Models are a construct of human imagination with modelers incorporating their views and biases so it is not surprising, that models get predictions of the future wrong. All sorts of nostrums and chants are invoked to give credence to a forecaster’s forecast, however, the forecast isn’t any more “real” than a suggestion from a bloke off the street.
Just because the forecaster is dressed up and all fancy with titles and such doesn’t make the forecast any more believable. As a matter of fact, experts are less correct than the man off the street in predicting future events. That’s a fact.
Experts are always good to listen to but when it comes to your wallet, probably you are the best person to decide what to do with your money and how you conduct your life.
Just saying.
The liberals are dismissing anything that Trump says cause it’s Trump.
The conservatives are dismissing anything that Fauci says cause it’s Fauci.
Both follow the fallacy of argumentum ad personam.
That is all but critical thinking. Face it.
You keep using that word, “science”. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Americans don’t believe pseudoscience, and Americans don’t believe false authority.
Fauci is too full of himself.