Guest “really? by David Middleton
This was in yesterday’s RealClearEnergy feed…
“There Is No Climate Justice Without Defunding the Police”
I’m not going to bother quoting anything from this “article”… It’s from the Earther SJW’s at Gizmodo. Here’s the link. This is the only commentary I have:
More bad news for climate justice warriors…
- Shareholders Vote Down Climate Resolution At French Oil Major Total
- Climate resolutions fail at Chevron, Exxon
- WTI is knocking on $40/bbl…
The current oil prices are high enough for pretty well all existing producing fields and a fair percentage of undeveloped resources to at least break-even.
| Reserves/Resource | Break-even at $42/bbl | ||
| Supply Group | Billion bbl | % | Billion bbl |
| Producing Fields | 798 | 100% | 798 |
| Onshore Middle East | 134 | 58% | 78 |
| North America “Shale” | 132 | 37% | 49 |
| Offshore Shelf | 120 | 36% | 43 |
| Deepwater | 77 | 19% | 14 |
| Russia Onshore | 30 | 23% | 7 |
| Extra Heavy Oil | 23 | 17% | 4 |
| Rest of World Onshore | 34 | 19% | 6 |
| Oil Sands | 55 | 0% | – |
| Total | 1,403 | 71% | 1,000 |
Climate warriors are realising that they are losing the battle as the public find out that the planned green society is very much like the lockdown one. So they are getting desperate and using anything and everything as part of the battle. A bit like an army falling back on bricks and stones when they’ve run out of ammo.
The “Protest solution”?
Blair’s law.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Blair%27s%20Law
‘Coined by Australian journalist, Tim Blair as “the ongoing process by which the world’s multiple idiocies are becoming one giant, useless force.”‘
“There Is No Climate Justice Without Defunding the Police”
Translation:
We’ve lost the script on climate change and nobody is taking us seriously. There is a danger that we will disappear from the news. So we have to sell our climate agenda on the back of whatever is news. Forest fires in California, bushfires in Australia, Flooding in Florida, virus pandemics everywhere, and even the horror of the black lives matter protests in America. The bigger the horror the better. We need to keep the climate relevant so we just have to find ways hitch a ride on the media sensation of the day. Have to save the planet and all, you know.
https://tambonthongchai.com/2020/03/30/the-humans-must-save-the-planet/
The protests and the police
https://tambonthongchai.com/2020/06/05/manhattan-the-morning-after/
Great summation, Chaamjamal. 🙂
Thank you Tom
I would complement you a lot more since you make a lot of good comments, but I don’t want to overdo it too much. 🙂
So, the SJWs won’t mind if I walk up and take their iPhone X. Since they don’t want any police, I can just take it, and kick them where the sun don’t shine.
And, since most of them are afraid of guns, if they try to take their stuff back, they will end up with more holes than they started with.
Give them what they claim to want, very rapidly they will not want it.
You are right to show this article, David, because if they defund the police there is going to be dramatic climate change. The heat from all of those arson fires will heat things up, then we get the added benefit of CO2 increase in the atmosphere. Meanwhile the price of a barrel of oil is recovering nicely and a lot of people will get on back to work. Here’s something important: they will re-open the local golf course next week! Stay sane and safe.
If they defund the police, private enterprise will step in. Before local police forces became ubiquitous, there was the Pinkerton Detective Agency as one example. Property will still be defended, it will just cost more.
Actually, private security guards might do a better job. We have this example of two Toronto security guards taking down a machete wielding criminal. That happened around the same time the Toronto police had a man cornered in an empty street car and one of them thought it would be a good idea to riddle the guy’s body with bullets even after he was lying on the ground bleeding. link The cop got off very lightly.
Who will these private security guards answer to for violations of a persons rights?
You can quote as many isolated instances of police misconduct as you can find, but that ignores the truth that almost all police do a great job under very trying circumstances each and every day.
“…almost all police do a great job under very trying circumstances each and every day.” is right on the money, Tom in Florida. My brother and I used to go deer or elk hunting in eastern Oregon every year with police friends. The police were all dedicated to the protect and serve idea, but talked constantly about the social justice demands for them to resist more aggressive forms of controlling a dangerous person until it was absolutely unavoidable and their (the police) lives were directly in danger. Pretty soon there will be a lawyer riding along in each police car. Where does this end?
It will probably end only after the police decide that patrolling certain neighborhoods is just no longer worth the risk to their careers.
Ron Long—shusss!!
Who will the private guards answer to? The same people the police do.
The courts.
People who refuse to pay for police damned well ain’t going to pay for private police.
Most wealthy people already pay for both public and private police.
I don’t. Then again I don’t need to be defended from shitbag Democrat Party c*nts. Do you?
Oh, and to be clear, Americans police themselves.
“Oh, and to be clear, Americans police themselves.”
Good point! Potential rioters and looters should take note. Don’t be coming into the neighborhoods with your violence.
Maybe it won’t get to that point. People seem to be calming down the last couple of days.
“Actually, private security guards might do a better job.”
No, I don’t think so, in the context of abuse of authority.
In any group of people you see, according to the claim, about 10 percent are psychopaths. Not all psychopaths are violent but a certain percentage are violent, and we cannot guarantee that there will not be a violent psychopath among the police or among private security, or among any group of people. Requiring that there be no psychopaths in an organization is not possible because we don’t know who is, and who is not, a violent psychopath until they do something extreme and expose their real selves to the world.
The organizaton is not the problem. The lone psychopath is the problem. The Democrats want to throw the baby out with the bathwater when they insist on defunding the police. Maybe “throwing the baby out with the bathwater” is not really descriptive enough. I should say the Democrats want to destroy the nation and defunding the police is one of their methods to do so.
Defunding the police was a principle of the violent Weather Underground communist organization in the 1960’s-1970’s, and of Antifia, and Black Lives Matter has now incorporated it into their agenda.
The Weather Underground and Antifa were/are out to destroy the United States. What is Black Lives Matter out to do?
Oh, but Antifa and BLM will BE the new police.
Farewell, USA. You had your run, but you let colleges and universities indoctrinate your children with what they learned from KGB infiltrators. That should have been nipped in the bud long, LONG ago.
I weep for the future.
No, wrong. The enemies of America and the human race are actually massively outnumbered. The TV and Internet make them LOOK like they are the majority when they are in fact a tiny minority. Time to make the chimimchongas. F**k all these rioting and looting cocks&ckers.
Since Black Lies Matter is a creation of leftist political sh*tspew what do you think their actual purpose is?
Studies done in the ’60s discovered that 20% obey the law because it is right, about 5-10% break the law because they have authority issues, the other 70% don’t break the law because they don’t think they can get away with it. If the studies are accurate then ‘defunding the police’ will have the same result as the Boston police strike of 1919. Nine straight days of looting until the Massachusetts State Guard restored order. All those cities which are considering reducing or eliminating police are playing with dynamite. The poor will be the ones who suffer, jobs and stores will leave-for decades. The Middle Hill district of Pittsburgh never did recover. You can go to the aerial view of Google Maps and see block after block with 75% empty lots. That is what is in store for the poor of the cities that defund police.
I generally obey the law because it is logical.
Look to Detroit for all the evidence needed.
Thank you, I didn’t know that is where the data came from. 🙂
Lots of security guards are police officers taking on off-hour jobs for extra pay. The first one of the four charged with murder in the George Floyd case worked security at a bar for example (overlapping time that Floyd also worked there ironically).
The guy must have been wh te.
Do you think that those that call for defunding the police would be the first to call them should they be in danger??
They are probably also the least prepared to defend their own homes. Over the past week I’ve been watching the local news for the sole purpose of determining if I just needed a loaded magazine in my M1 carbine, or should go ahead and chamber a round. So far, loaded magazines have been an adequate comfort level.
While Dallas has done some really retarded things lately, like removing the “One Riot, One Ranger” statue from Love Field, our police chief has maintained little tolerance for law breaking.
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/06/05/minneapolis-city-councilman-jeremiah-ellison-vows-to-dismantle-citys-entire-police-department-930273
Minneapolis City Councilman Jeremiah Ellison is one of many USA leftists who want to defund the police. He is clearly an imbecile – several cards short of a full deck. We need police for a reason – to avoid anarchy – the full Mad Max.
I’ve done business on six continents, in some of the most dangerous countries in the world. I also lived in New York and Houston for ~two years. Every country has bad cops, but your cops in the USA are much better than most – they are certainly better than the extremely violent cops in my home town, Calgary.
Get rid of police unions and fire and charge the bad cops – that’s the solution!
Why are government employees unionized? Union busting, its time has come.
“Minneapolis City Councilman Jeremiah Ellison is one of many USA leftists who want to defund the police. He is clearly an imbecile – several cards short of a full deck. We need police for a reason – to avoid anarchy – the full Mad Max.”
The whole city council in Minneapolis are clueless. They are immersed in the lunatic Left delusions.
You have to work at it to be this stupid.
Defund the Police! What a joke! Anyone who thinks this is a good idea should not have power over other people, because their delusions become a danger to the public..
What hasn’t crossed their feeble minds is you need police to sustain government, itself. When people stop paying property taxes, start selling everything sans sales taxes, no longer pay, or even receive traffic and parking tickets, what are they going to do for revenue? Send out really, really stern letters? If they sue, who is going to enforce court orders?
For that matter, forget about the courts. No arrests, no investigation, no one to execute search warrants. And a relative, who is a retired judge, says no judge would enter a court room without a police presence.
So no police equals no government.
Didn’t he go so far as to call for the disbandment of the police?
Ellison is the son of the state attorney general, Keith Ellison who is a Soros funded puppet. Why does that name keep appearing so often?
I think Keith Ellison has a connection to Antifa, too. He’s about as radical as you can get.
+10
I know any reporting comes with some bias but could there be a bias so strong that this story doesn’t suggest that eliminating some (federal) police might not be a good idea?
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/06/05/protests-washington-dc-federal-agents-law-enforcement-302551
I found a new source of USA stats for police shootings – see below.
I found a new source of USA stats for police shootings – see below.
In the USA in 2019, a total of 56 unarmed people were shot and killed by police in the USA, in a population of 330 Million, a rate of 0.17 per million
In Calgary in 2016 and again in 2018, ~9* unarmed people were shot by city police, in a population of 1.4 million, a rate of 6.43 per million.
So in Calgary, an unarmed person is ~38 times more likely to be shot by police than in the USA. Attaboys all around to our Calgary cops!
Even if my stats are not perfect, a rational person can see that we have a big problem in Calgary – unprofessional, trigger happy cops and no competent oversight.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/national/police-shootings-2019/
Unarmed
56 people shot and killed by police match your filters (6%)
* Note: I deducted one police shooting victim who (technically) was “armed”- Dave McQueen had a rifle but he was a quadriplegic, with limited use of his arms.
The same trigger-happy Calgary cop murdered unarmed, unthreatening Anthony Heffernan, shooting him several times in the face, and was not prosecuted.
The numbers shout this conclusion – USA police are not that bad.
There were demonstrations all over the world on Saturday in support of Black Lives Matter. One problem: the entire BLACK LIVES MATTER narrative in the USA, like so many leftist stories, is FALSE.
For the left, “Every lie is a good lie, if it serves the Cause.” BLM IS JUST MORE MARXIST BULLSH!T.
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We even had a demo in Calgary by our clueless local virtue-signalers, who don’t know that an unarmed person is ~38 times more likely to be shot by our trigger-happy Calgary cops than by police in the USA.
Summary:
In the USA in 2019, a total of 56 unarmed people were shot and killed by police in the USA, in a population of 330 Million, a rate of 0.17 per million
In Calgary in 2016 and again in 2018, ~9* unarmed people were shot by city police, in a population of 1.4 million, a rate of 6.43 per million.
IN CONCLUSION, AN UNARMED PERSON IS ~38 TIMES MORE LIKELY TO BE SHOT BY CALGARY POLICE THAN BY POLICE IN THE USA. ATTABOYS ALL AROUND TO OUR CALGARY COPS!
* Note: I deducted one police shooting victim who (technically) was “armed”- Dave McQueen had a rifle but he was a quadriplegic, with limited use of his arms.
The same trigger-happy Calgary cop also killed unarmed, unthreatening Anthony Heffernan, shooting him several times in the face, and was not prosecuted.
Even if my stats are not perfect, a rational person can see that we have a huge problem in Calgary – unprofessional, trigger-happy cops and no competent oversight.
The Washington Post 2019 database of police shootings of civilians is here.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/national/police-shootings-2019/
56 people shot and killed by police were unarmed (6% of total).
TUCKER CARLSON BREAKS DOWN EVERY POLICE SHOOTING OF UNARMED BLACK SUSPECTS IN 2019
https://dailycaller.com/2020/06/03/tucker-carlson-police-shootings-genocide/
“We should find out,” he said. “Facts matter. What exactly are the numbers? We found the numbers, and we’re going to go through them with you in some detail tonight because it’s worth it.”
“Since 2015, The Washington Post has maintained a comprehensive database of fatal police shootings in this country,” said Carlson. “Last year, the Post logged 1,004 killings. Of the 802 shootings in which race of the police officer and the suspect was noted, 371 of the those killed were white; 236 were black. The vast majority of those killed were not in fact, ‘unarmed.’ The vast majority were armed, and Africans American suspects were significantly more likely to have a deadly weapon than white suspects. Yet more white suspects were killed.”
Carlson counted “precisely ten cases” listed by the Post “in which unarmed African Americans were fatally shot by police. There were nine men and one woman.” Then, the Daily Caller co-founder listed specifics about each one:
“The first was a man called Channara Pheap. He was killed by a Knoxville police called officer Dylan Williams. According to Williams, Pheap attacked him, choked him and then used a Taser on him … before the officer shot him. Five eyewitnesses corroborated the officer’s claim, and the officer was not charged.”
“The second case concerns a man called Marcus McVae. He was by any description a career criminal from San Angelo, Texas. He’d been ‘convicted of aggravated assault, assault on a public servant, and organized criminal activity.’ At the time he was killed he was wanted on drug dealing charges. A Texas state trooper pulled him over. McVae fled in his car, then he fled on foot into the woods. There, he fought with a trooper, and was shot and killed. The officer was not charged in that case.”
“Marzues Scott assaulted a shop employee. When a female police officer arrived and ordered the suspect toward her car, he instead charged her and knocked her to the ground. At that point, she shot and killed him. The entire incident was caught on body camera. The officer was not charged.”
“Ryan Twyman was being approached by two LA County deputies when he backed into one of them with his vehicle. The deputy was caught in the car door. He and his partner opened fire. The deputies were not charged in that case.”
“Melvin Watkins of East Baton Rouge, Louisiana was shot by a deputy, after he allegedly drove his car to toward the deputy at high speed. The deputy was not charged.”
“Isaiah Lewis, meanwhile, wasn’t just unarmed, he was completely naked. Williams broke into a house, and then attacked a police officer. The police tased Williams, but he kept coming at them and attacking. The officers shot him. They were not charged.”
“Atatiana Jefferson [sic] was shot by a Fort Worth deputy called Aaron Dean. A neighbor had called a non-emergency number after seeing Jefferson’s door open thinking something might be wrong. When police arrived, Jefferson saw them approach from a window and was holding a gun at the time. According to body camera footage, the office shot Jefferson within seconds. That officer has been charged with homicide.”
“Christopher Whitfield was shot and killed in Ethel, Louisiana. He had robbed a gas station. Deputy Glen Sims, said his gun discharged accidentally while grappling with Whitfield. Sims, who is black himself, was not charged in that killing.”
“Kevin Mason was shot by police during a multi-hour standoff. While Mason turned out not to have a gun, Mason claimed to have a gun, claimed to be armed and vowed to kill police with it. They believed him. Mason had been in a shootout with police years before.”
“And, finally, the tenth case concerns Gregory Griffin, who was shot during a car chase. An officer called Jovanny Crespo claimed he saw someone pointing a gun at him. Later, a gun was in fact found inside the vehicle and yet Officer Crespo was charged anyway with aggravated manslaughter.”
After the list, Carlson contended that an “officer was attacked” before the shooting in five of them and one was an accident, which “leaves a total of four deaths during a pursuit or in a standoff.”
“So out of four, in two of those cases, in fully half, the officer was criminally charged,” Carlson said. “Is it possible that more of these officers should have been charged? Of course it’s possible. Justice is not always served, that’s for sure. But either way, this is a very small number in a country of 325 million people. This is not genocide. It’s not even close to genocide. It is laughable to suggest it is.”
The Fox News host argued that the number of killing by police is actually “dropping” from numbers seen during former President Barack Obama’s presidency.
“Last year was the safest year for unarmed suspects since The Washington Post began tracking police shootings,” he said. “It was the safest year for both white and black suspects.”
Meanwhile, the U.S. “remains a dangerous place for police officers,” with forty-eight “ murdered in 2019,” more than all “unarmed suspects killed, of all races. Carlson ended the monologue by citing the “7,407 black Americans” who were murdered in the U.S. in 2018. If those numbers continue “on a similar trajectory,” it would mean that “for every unarmed black person shot to death by police, more than 700 were murdered by someone else — usually someone they know.”
“Again, those are the facts,” he concluded. “They are not in dispute. Are African Americans being ‘hunted,’ as Joy Reid recklessly claimed on MSNBC recently? Or is something else happening? IS OUR NATION BEING RIPPED APART BY A TOTAL AND COMPLETE LIE, A PROVABLE LIE. A lie used by cynical media manipulators and unscrupulous politicians who understand that racial strife, race hatred, is their path to power, even if it destroys the country? You have the facts now and you can decide what’s really going on.”
A little perspective on the latest news, from a politically-incorrect source::
George Floyd was a violent thug who once held a shotgun against the belly of a two-month-pregnant woman, looking for drugs. Good riddance! We also got rid of a violent cop – I say win-win! Attaboys all around!
Candace Owens is remarkable – she actually tells the Truth, in a world where too many people swim in Lies – and by that I mean Democrats and leftists of all stripes. For a leftist, “Any Lie Is A Good Lie” if it serves The Cause – and stupid people are so gullible that they believe every lie that is dumped on them.
https://www.facebook.com/1593518174052711/videos/273957870461345
Speaking of lies, you would think George Floyd was some kind of Saint, given all the accolades he has received and all the people who paid homage to his worthless criminal life. So many lies!
Candace Owens recites George Floyd’s long life of crime – he was a serial criminal with many arrests and convictions, and did truly horrific crimes. He held a shotgun against the belly of a two-month-pregnant woman! Despite how Reverend Al Sharpie extolled Floyd’s life, the world is a lot better without him.
“in my M1 carbine”
A fine little weapon!
Just enough firepower for small riots… 😉
And delightfully accurate!
The mayor of Chicago has denounced vigilantism after images were published of white men carrying bat patrolling their own neighborhoods.
The mayor declared that the proper response if see something wrong is to call 911.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/mayor-lori-lightfoot-denounces-vigilantism-in-chicago-after-white-men-patrol-neighborhood-streets-with-bats/ar-BB152S4r?li=BBnbfcL
In a small town here in Western Washington, there is a black car with a message in white tape, BIG letters: “WHITE SILENCE IS VIOLENCE! BLM”
“WHITE SILENCE IS VIOLENCE! BLM”
What they are wanting is for everyone to agree with the BLM radical agenda like agreeing that all white people are innately racist. If you do that, then you are speaking up for black people. If you don’t agree with their radical agenda, then they call you a racist.
Here, I’ll speak up: There is no systemic racism in the United States. There is individual racism, and even some group racsim, but there is no systemic racism. All white people are not racists contrary to what BLM wants you to believe.
BLM is all about dividing one American from another. They are all about fomenting hate against the white race as a means to forward their political agenda. They don’t like that white people make up 65 percent of the American population.
I’ve been told by quite a few leftists that it’s impossible for blacks to be racist.
Of course I’ve also observed that very few leftists have any formal connections with reality.
Organizations such as NAACP, BLM, and a host of others need people to feel victimized. Without that, the organizations become meaningless and, most importantly, the funds stop coming.
Have to keep explaining it as simply as possible.” If the color of your skin is all that makes your life matter you are a racist.” This sentence needs to be spread far and wide.
Loss of the Ranger stage at Love Field really irks me. The wokestapo at D Magazine and the Dallas Morning Snooze won’t rest until every vestige of Texas uniqueness and pride is erased. Did some rangers do some bad things long ago? Yes, like every other group of human beings.
I was wearing my favorite T-shirt when I saw the news report…
I think this is the real reason they took it down…
Nice shirt! I sometimes bring up the Marty Robbins son “Big Iron” and listen to it. Several states had Rangers and they didn’t worry to much about lawyers.
If not for the Texas Rangers, our local MLB team would be the “Texas Scalped by Comanches” rather than the Texas Rangers… 😉
Speaking of the baseball team per your note below, clearly their name will have to change. The Texas Kneelers perhaps?
I suppose next we’ll have to banish the red Pegasus sign that has long been Dallas’s trademark since after all that was once the sign of the Magnolia oil company and we don’t want visitors to our city triggered by symbols of Planetary Destruction. And flying horses probably fart too.
👍👍
From the 1970s:
Thank you, that made my day!
Some notions are so idiotic you need to be an ‘earther’ to conceive them.
In Colorado, to address climate change they’ve changed out a lot of traffic signal lights to LEDs that are of course more efficient. They’re great most of the time. Sometimes in winter, we get these storms with blowing snow and the snow can actually cover the lights ruining their visibility.
Incandescent lights give off enough heat to melt the snow so they maintain their visibility. Well, the problem is that in some of these storms less than careful drivers crash in intersections. The solution is obvious, all traffic signals need to be removed.
Actually, they add heaters to the lights.
The biggest cost savings with LED lights is that they don’t have to be changed out as often.
They also require considerably less energy compared to the incandescent variety. Energy, I should not need to point out, costs money. Bulb replacement costs are a pittance compared to the cost of energy over the bulbs lifetime of operation. You don’t need to be a leftist climate alarmist to be in favor of using more energy efficient LED lights, as they make economic sense (IE they generally save money over the long run, obviously adding heaters might mitigate some of those saving in areas that get frequent winter storms of the like those described by scissors but that’s what cost-saving analysis is for).
wow youre right words really do fail trying to even figure out where to start with that sort of loopfruits.
it mght be the stupid of the week winner
but
they never fail to top themselves
how many hours would it take of NO Police reponding to calls to shut these morons up?
The morons are live in gated communities. They aren’t affected.
Dont underestimate the power of the mob and of stupidity. The apparent stupidity is nothing less than a display of absolute power. It says “see what we can get away with”. “We are obviously naked yet everybody agrees we are wearing the fanciest clothes of all”.
They’ve obviously never watched the purge
Defund police? Fine, then we will have to muster militia to keep order. Wonder how that will end for protestors?
Another,”Life is hard, it is harder when you are stupid.” The political left is stupid. Answers a lot of questions.
“The political left is stupid.”
It’s worse than that, they are delusional. They are not in touch with the Real World. They and their propaganda arm, the Leftwing Media have created a False Reality in which they all live. No rational person would suggest doing away with the Police. If you see a person who does, they are not rational. Don’t put them in charge of anything.
The same group that tell us that condemning an entire group of people over the actions of a few is racism and bigotry, are now telling us that all police are bad because of the actions of a small handful of officers.
+42, MarkW :<)
With funds freed through depolicing (is that a proper word?) the Geometric and Timed Clouds for Rains of Justice in Places That Deserve Whatever and Matter Movement can finally be formed.
Fund Climate Police instead. Because, Climate Change.
A return to the doctrine of “Looters will be shot on sight” would end this mania very quickly.
Have to display the bodies with proper signage to get the message across.
“A return to the doctrine of “Looters will be shot on sight” would end this mania very quickly.”
It wouldn’t have taken even that much. Look at Minnesota before and after the National Guard went in. Anarchy before, calm, peaceful demonstrations after.
All you need is an adequate number of police or National Guard and a governor who puts out clear messages about curfews and how they will be enforced.
In New York City they implemented a “no bail” policy not long ago and so when they arrested 700 protesters the other day, they were releasing them as fast as they arrested them. Of course, this is a joke, and all the protesters know if they get arrested they will be let out quickly, so why should they obey any rules put down by the mayor. No consequences.
I hear the governor of New York has started holding protesters arrested now that the farce has become public.
A lot of poor leadership on the part of Democrat governors and mayors is what we are seeing and is what is exascerbating the problems. Really poor leadership, and the New York City mayor is the worst of them all. He even got booed by the protesters the other day when he was trying to show solidarity with them by pandering to them. Even pandering didn’t stop the boos.
In many cities, the courts have ruled that you can’t shoot someone just to protect property.
You can only use deadly force if your life is directly and immediately in danger.
Plus, you cannot use deadly force if there is any possibility, no matter how small or dangerous, of fleeing.
Correct, but laws vary greatly. Georgia, and other states, have the Castle Doctrine. If you are home and someone is or has broken in, you may assume, without question, that their intent is to harm you or your family, and shoot them.
In Georgia, if you are outside your home, you may shoot to defend yourself, or to stop a forcible felony against you. Forcible felony arises when someone uses force against you to commit a felony. If you see someone stealing your car, it’s just a property crime; a felony act, but you can’t shoot. If someone tries to pull you out of the car, or uses any force against you to steal your car, you can fire away, even if they had no intent to actually harm you. The same goes for looting. If it is an otherwise unprotected store, you can’t shoot, but if you are standing guard, and someone tries to force you out of the way, you can.
“Plus, you cannot use deadly force if there is any possibility, no matter how small or dangerous, of fleeing.”
It might be a good idea to get some of that “self-defense” insurance Sean Hannity sometimes promotes, where if you get in a legal jam over defending yourself, you’ll have a lawyer there to defend your rights.
Here in Oklahoma anyone who is not a felon and is over 21 years old can carry a weapon legally.
Join NRA, your covered then. Here in PA is same, not a felon you can carry, and getting a permit for CC is almost as easy as registering to vote.
“Join NRA, your covered then.”
I didn’t know that. Thanks for the tip. I’ll probably be joining the NRA for that reason.
Andrew The Insane in New York tried to sue insurance companies doing business with NRA, he failed miserably. I believe Cali tried too and also failed.
“Join the NRA; you are covered.”
No.
You can, however, get “pre-paid legal” support in case you have to use your firearm. I think it is about $150/year for concealed carry license holders.
Sorry, as a NRA member I am covered, there are other insurance options, covering all the things insurance covers, many options. As a NRA member I fall under their blanket coverage. Not that I need it. I shoot your ass you will vanish, as if you never existed.
In 2015, the Baltimore states attorney tried to constrain the police by prosecuting 6 cops in the chain of custody after a young black man Was injured and later died after riding in a police van. Riots followed. There was little evidence to build a case against anyone. After three acquittals, the charges against the remainder were dropped. Still, the police got the message And they Now pursue criminals much less aggressively. Baltimore’s murder rate jumped 50% and has stayed at that high level for the past 5 years. Most of these murders are in the poorest areas of the city. Interestingly, Baltimore had large peaceful protests In the last 10 days. The people who live here Seemed to have learned who pays the price when riots and anarchy take over.
A deeply personal note on removing the Ranger statue from Love Field in Dallas. My family immigrated from Germany to the USA (Texas) in 1965. My brothers and I, all big fans of everything “Cowboy” stood under that statue staring up at it in wonder. It made a big impression on me. Removing it from the airport really pisses me off.
This is what a retired Texas Ranger had to say…
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10217686194809890&id=1330410769
My father’s family came from Germany in the 1840s. The ironic thing is that the Texas Rangers are now used to investigate alleged police abuses. Are they headed for the Alamo?
As of 07:55 6/8/20 that post has been removed. You are only allowed to read approved words and think approved thoughts.
Facebook fascists strike again. “One riot, one Ranger” has also disappeared from Love Field’s history on it’s website.
The statue was moved from the main terminal a few years ago when it was renovated. When it returned, the media celebrated it as an icon of Texas history and culture.
Actual Texas Rangers would not tolerate this sh*t. My, how the mighty have fallen.
The Texas Rangers Division have mostly become the investigation branch of DPS.
I know. Now they are note-taking bedwetters who refuse to close Texas’ border. Was a time 3 Rangers and a varying roster of posse members held that border to crossings at 3 points and maintained a healthy cross border trade that benefited both sides. How times change.
You should work to oust the politician who authorized the removal.
This is a particularly offensive move by the Radical Left. It is just another attempt by them to demonize the police. The politicians who thought this was a good idea don’t have any business being in charge of other people’s lives. They have demonstrated that their brains are not funcioning properly, with this decision.
Winning!
https://www.centralmaine.com/2020/06/05/trump-met-by-supporters-protesters-as-he-arrives-in-maine/
Trump descended from Air Force One and was greeted by former Maine Gov. Paul LePage. Protesters and supporters lined up outside the airport as the two attended a roundtable with commercial fishermen that was open to selected media, before Trump boarded a helicopter for Guilford.
Trump announced that he was lifting restrictions on fishing in the Northeast Canyons and Seamounts Marine National Monument. The monument was designated by President Barack Obama in 2016, and it is the only such U.S. monument in the Atlantic Ocean.
He also said he was putting LePage in charge of a task force to open up foreign markets to U.S. seafood and ease commercial fishing regulations.
Yep, not tired of it, yet!
👍👏👏👏
That got Janet Mill good!🤣
I can’t find the article this morning, but last night I read about a Democrat politician who was whining about how awful it was that Trump would be travelling to Maine, the whitest state in the country, at this time.
Summer doesn’t happen until July 4th when we take our Long Johns off for the day. Then it’s back to winter again!
From the article: “There Is No Climate Justice Without Defunding the Police”
Well, I guess there won’t be any Climate Justice then.
How can any rational person support the Democrats?
The Democrats are trying to divide the nation along racial lines, and have been doing this for decades.
The Democrats demonstrate their inability to protect American citizens. They are completely incapable of defending us. We don’t want people like this in charge of our national defense, because they won’t defend us. You have a fine example right in front of your eyes with these riots. Trump has to practicaly beg these mayors and governors to defend the populace. The mayors and governors are only interested in showing solidarity with the protesters. Politics, in other words.
The Democrats show their disdain for the U.S. military and the police. And it is genuine. The hangover from the Vietnam war.
The Democrats are insane. They are living in a false reality of their own creation. An ugly, horrible, false reality, especially if you are black. The Democrats tell Blacks that all white people hate them. A horrible, poisonous Lie.
The Democrats are Poison to our nation. They tried to overthrow Trump’s election, trashing the U.S. Constituton in the process, and they are still at it, undermining Trump at every turn and therefore undermining the United States. They are poison to everything they touch.
Anyone who votes for a Democrat today has to be an idiot, divorced from reality, with no sense of self-preservation.
+100
– JPP
Hey, David!
So DemoKKKrat policy now is that rioting and looting prevent the spread of the Chi-Com 19 virus, and Progressive policies in our major cities have solved crime so police are unnecessary. I’ve been rolling around on the floor laughing hysterically to the point that I felt it prudent to actuate the decocking lever on my SIG! This could make 2020 a bigger blowout than the Nixon/McGovern race! Of course, they will be trying to justify voter-fraud-by-mail even though the support for protests and riots kind of cuts the legs out from under that argument. Even dead Republicans and white supremacists will be voting DemoKKKrat!
Glad to see the oil industry is recovering nicely and the US economy appears to be poised for an explosion of activity and growth! Looks like President Tump was right again, just like he was about hydroxychloroquine!
From the article: “WTI is knocking on $40/bbl”
How about them apples!
Did you like that last jobs report, David? A rhetorical question. 🙂
I don’t think anyone should be surprised at the large number (2.5 million people back to work last week). The only surprise was the timing. Everyone was expecting a pickup in the economy but were thinking it would happen several months down the road. But I guess the American people are a little impatient and have sped up the timetable a little bit.
I think we can expect large numbers of people to be going back to work with each week as more States open up their economies. Some of the biggest GDP producers are still practically closed down like New York, New Jersey and California.
And I wonder about the damage to the economy that the riots have done. It’s kind of hard to get a handle on that right now.
I imagine Trump will be fixing up a relief package for all those businesses that were destroyed by the rioters. I would support that.
Anyway, things are looking up economically, and I think Trump is right that it will take off like a rocket. Barring a large new outbreak of Wuhan virus. We will know a whole lot more about it here shortly.
Trump says a viable vaccine may be only months away. And he had lots of enthusiam for the “treatments” he is seeing.
Now, if we could just get the Democrats to quit trying to divide the nation with their hateful rhetoric. Yeah, I know, that will never happen. We will just have to vote them out of power, if we have the collective smarts. If not, we will be stuck with these insane people and their insane ideas.
Texas might leave the Union over such a development. Oklahoma may go with them. If Oklahoma doesn’t go with them, then a lot of Oklahomans will be moving to Texas. 🙂
-“The U.S. Supreme Court declared in an 1869 case, Texas vs. White, that the United States is “an indestructible union.” And the late U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia wrote in a 2006 letter that “if there was any constitutional issue resolved by the Civil War, it is that there is no right to secede.””-
However Texas does have the right to split into 5 states , each of which could be admitted to the Union – with 2 senators each ? making 10 for the former territory known as Texas . Might solve some problems – or create new ones.
The Constitution clearly states that no State can be subdivided without the approval of the Congress.
Texas was its own country when it won its independence from Mexico. It’s agreement to become a state included the right to split into as many as five states, which was approved by Congress. No further Congressional approval is required.
Two points.
First, none of what could be the other four states would become states simply due to the division, they would have to be admitted in accordance with the Constitution and with approval of Congress.
Second, Texas chose to secede from the U S during the Civil War and when it later petitioned for readmission, the readmission was granted without that provision.
First, Incorrect, the agreement allows them to becomes separate states entitled to admission to the union “ Third — New States of convenient size not exceeding four in number, in addition to said State of Texas and having sufficient population, may, hereafter by the consent of said State, be formed out of the territory thereof, which shall be entitled to admission under the provisions of the Federal Constitution; “ That the agreement, as written, allows Texas to split into multiple states is not in doubt, congress isn’t an issue in the splitting, as written. Now it can be argued they still need congressional approval “per the Constitution” to be admitted despite being “entitled to admission”. Perhaps, but Congress would be hard press to come up with a reason not to admit them that the citizens/voters of this country would agree with.
As to your second point, in Texas vs. White (1869, IE after the war) The U.S. Supreme Court held that Texas remained part of the United States even during the Civil War, as such that would mean the original agreement still holds as they “never left” according to that Supreme Court case.
On thing is certain, if Texas chose to go down that path, and/or if Congress tried to not-admit the new states, you can be certain that it will end up in the courts, with the Supreme Court ultimately deciding the issue.
I find it fascinating how a supreme court justice could declare that a war resolved a constitutional question. In other words, might makes right.
The only thing that the War of Northern Aggression determined was that the side with the most guns gets to force it’s will on the rest.
If Texas decides to leave, the question regarding the number of guns will lean the other way.
Mark,
most people think that the civil war ended slavery which was a good thing. But clearly that was an
unjustified use of force. Exactly how do you think slavery would have ended in the South?
What most people think and what actually happened rarely coincide.
1) Slavery was already dying.
2) Even Lincoln said that if he could preserve the union while also preserving slavery, he would.
3) The issue of slavery only came up several years into the war, at a time when the North was still losing.
4) Reconstruction was worse for blacks than slavery ever was.
5) Slavery would have ended the same way it did in the rest of the world.
So, if it were up to you (and the Constitution hadn’t already resolved the slave trade question) you would still own black slaves purchased from Muslims in Africa. Good to have that admission.
Kemaris, that is a grossly insulting twist of what he said. What he said was entirely correct on every point.
First, it was never ‘up to him’, so there is no reason for him to express his personal views.
Secondly, you gross ignorance stems from a lack of understanding of his fifth point. Why was slavery ending in the rest of the world? Because the majority was deciding that the institution was morally and ethically wrong. That would include those of us on this board.
People like you, throwing around ignorant insults, is a primary reason why no one can discuss anything peacefully.
Kemaris, are you an idiot or are you just paid to play one?
Saying that slavery would have ended even without the Civil War is no different than saying that slavery should still exist? Really?
Slavery does still exist. Africa, ME, Asia, South America, slavery is still in full flower in these places. They have a common root, it is islam. Judaism and Christianity ended slavery, islam embraces it.
Kemaris, your inability to read and comprehend what you’ve read is duely noted. He said nothing even remotely close to the nonsense you wrote. If you ever passed kindergarten, I suggest you get yourself a good lawyer as you’ve got a good case for suing your teachers and school for malpractice.
Slavery was simply a matter of economics. It was cheaper to feed, clothe, and house a slave, than to pay someone to do the work. But you had those expenses year round. Agriculture in the South had a long enough growing season for the economics to justify it. The economics didn’t work in the North with its shorter growing season.
The end of slavery was already on the drawing boards of Cyrus McCormick and John Deere. Their inventions would have made slavery the less economical method, since you only need to ‘feed’ farm equipment (thanks, fossil fuels!) when you actually use them, require only a small, unheated shelter, and they don’t care what they wear, if anything.
If the civil war had been postponed for less than twenty years, it would not have been needed.
Jtom,
that is nonsense. Slavery in the USA is intimately tied up with racism and you cannot just claim it is “a matter of economics”. And even at the time it was in fact cheaper to employ Irish labourers than slaves since you didn’t have to pay them a living wage or look after them when they were sick. Once the British stopped the Atlantic slave trade, slaves were expensive and keeping them was a matter of prestige rather than economics.
Ok, Izaak.
Read this, then you can explain to them why they are wrong.
https://www.history.com/news/slavery-profitable-southern-economy
I see that Izaak is another liberal that puts feeling ahead of thinking.
Are you actually going to try and claim that plantation owners were willing to lose money hand over fist just to show off to their friends?
Izaak reminds me of the old saying:
Conservatives think liberals are stupid.
Liberals think conservatives are evil.
Correction: Liberals *feel* that conservatives are evil.
I don’t think liberals are stupid, they prove they are constantly, just look at the last 11 days.
The root cause of the Civil War was state’s rights vs federal taxation, or more generally, federal vs state jurisdiction. While unfortunately not explicitly part of the Constitution, the right to withdraw from the union was a general understanding at the time of the adoption. Many in the north supported letting the southern states go their own way. Slavery abolition had been a fairly strong movement in the north for some time. It was introduced as an issue of the war in order to rally more public support.
What they say always means something different than what they say. In this case they want to deconstruct establishment police forces in order to establish their own antifa police force appointed and controlled by community committee.
“All power to the Soviets”.
That’s how the Bolshies did a run around traditional institutions such as the police. Soviets were local committees appointed to run everything from factories to neighborhoods. And the Bolsheviks appointed who was on the Soviets .
Defund da pohlease people? Dat’s jes’ brillyunt!!!!!! Who you gonna call when yo hovel broke into, yo!!???
That loud noise you may have heard 159 miles away was me falling off my chair, laughing.
Was is Pericles, or someone else, who said ‘The stupid will rule”?
Who are you going to call when all the food stores have been looted, closed up and not re-stocked to avoid further loss, AND YOU’R HUNGRY? How many days of food does a city have without new shipments?
The mayor of Chicago, whom I quoted in another article above, a few days ago was begging the various retailers to not abandon Chicago.
I wonder if they looted it too?
WINDMILL CATCHES FIRE NEAR RIO VISTA IN SOLANO COUNTY
https://www.google.com/amp/s/abc7news.com/amp/windmill-fire-caught-rio-vista/6234106/
VIDEO: 3 Jun: World Economic Forum: The Great Re-Set
There is an urgent need for global stakeholders to cooperate in simultaneously managing the direct consequences of the COVID-19 crisis. To improve the state of the world, the World Economic Forum is starting The Great Reset initiative.
Watch the Overview VIDEO 1h19m
THE OPPORTUNITY
As we enter a unique window of opportunity to shape the recovery, this initiative will offer insights to help inform all those determining the future state of global relations, the direction of national economies, the priorities of societies, the nature of business models and the management of a global commons…
The Great Re-Set Dialogues
These dialogues are a joint initiative of the World Economic Forum and HRH The Prince of Wales.
https://www.weforum.org/great-reset/
3 Jun: World Economic Forum: How the world can ‘reset’ itself after COVID-19 – according to these experts
by Kate Whiting
•The Great Reset is a new initiative from the World Economic Forum and HRH the Prince of Wales to guide decision-makers on the path to a more resilient, sustainable world beyond coronavirus.
•The economic fallout from COVID-19 dominates risk perceptions, but there is a unique opportunity to reshape the global economy.
•Greenpeace International’s Jennifer Morgan, IMF chief economist Gita Gopinath and ITUC head Sharan Burrow discuss how they perceive a reset.
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/06/covid19-great-reset-gita-gopinath-jennifer-morgan-sharan-burrow-climate/
World Economic Forum: The Great Reset: A Unique Twin Summit to Begin 2021
•The twin summit will be both in-person and virtual, connecting key global governmental and business leaders in Davos with a global multistakeholder network in 400 cities around the world for a forward-oriented dialogue driven by the younger generation.
Speakers for 1430 livestream (includes)
Ma Jun, Chairman, Green Finance Committee, China Society for Finance and Banking, and a Member of the Monetary Policy Committee of the People’s Bank of China;
•Bernard Looney, Chief Executive Officer, BP, United Kingdom…
•Bradford L. Smith, President, Microsoft, USA
•Nick Stern, Chair, Grantham Research Institute on Climate Change and the Environment, United Kingdom
“We only have one planet and we know that climate change could be the next global disaster with even more dramatic consequences for humankind. We have to decarbonize the economy in the short window still remaining and bring our thinking and behaviour once more into harmony with nature,” said Klaus Schwab, Founder and Executive Chairman of the World Economic Forum…
“The Great Reset is a welcome recognition that this human tragedy must be a wake-up call. We must build more equal, inclusive and sustainable economies and societies that are more resilient in the face of pandemics, climate change and the many other global changes we face,” said António Guterres, Secretary-General, United Nations, New York…
https://www.weforum.org/great-reset/about
Meanwhile in the real world, there is an article in this Saturday’s Telegraph (UK) which predicts that the trillions already being spent on economic investment both before, and particularly as as result of, Covid, will result in damaging inflation in US , spreading globally as fast as a virus.
Now that new money at present is intended to boost the productive economy in the States, but if, as predicted , the Democrats with their green deals win in Nov , much of that new money will go into areas that some might consider are not productive and represent an inefficient use of manpower and resources. The inflation risks must surely be even higher .
In the UK this process is already underway . The ” recovery” from the pandemic is said to be centred on inefficient renewables, unaffordable electric cars and the UK usng its financial expertise to become the “world leader in carbon taxes” – a truly horrifying prospect.
Given that readers here are a particularly astute bunch , irrespective of their sceptic/warmist persusions,
do they think rapid and damaging inflation is a real possibility in US and Europe and is there any way of avoiding it?
I much doubt there is any way to avoid serious consequences.
“The Great Reset” reminds me of Chairman Mao’s The Great Leap Forward”.
6 Jun: Climate Depot: NYT: ‘Don’t Thank the Virus for Saving the Climate Yet
by Marc Morano
NYT interviews Daniel C. Esty, a professor of environmental law and policy at Yale University: Esty on impact of COVID lockdowns:
‘Covid-19 sharpens people’s understanding of what the proper choice is: significant action at some substantial cost, or inaction, which has a tremendous cost itself.
‘I hope that lesson carries over to the game plan being developed in the years ahead for action on climate change: getting people ready for serious work and a significant transformation of society, and to explain that the status quo is not really an option.’
https://www.climatedepot.com/2020/06/06/nyt-dont-thank-the-virus-for-saving-the-climate-yet/
5 Jun: Climate Depot: Flashback: Fmr. UN climate head predicted COVID lockdowns?!: ‘The only way a 2015 agreement can achieve a 2-degree goal is to shut down the whole global economy’
by Marc Morano
“The only way that a 2015 agreement can achieve a 2-degree goal is to shut down the whole global economy,” Yvo de Boer, former UNFCCC (United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change) executive secretary said in 2013…
https://www.climatedepot.com/2020/06/05/flashback-fmr-un-climate-head-predicted-covid-lockdowns-the-only-way-a-2015-agreement-can-achieve-a-2-degree-goal-is-to-shut-down-the-whole-global-economy/
Jesus, and I was already feeling a bit depressed today!
Come on, UN, are we really going to have to stage an armed resistance to your proposed Stalinist world government?
The Riots’ impact on the national economy will be very limited. Their impact on the local economies will vary depending on the idiocy of the regulations with which the reestablishment of commerce in those areas are handicapped. Unfortunately, the areas hardest hit are exactly those areas which, prior to the recent regulation reduction from Washington, have done everything possible to keep entrepreneurship down. Upshot, there will be increased unemployment in those areas, and a number of the would be entrepreneurs will shut down or move to more fertile locations. It’s happened before.
Of course the usual suspects will declare that the economic problems in those areas are the direct result of racism and capitalism which only more government can solve.
I can guess the response when would-be store owners reply, “No, I would re-open my business, but I can no longer get affordable insurance, if any, and the city requires me to carry it.”
Who are the racists – the store owners, insurance companies, or the city? Ah ha! Everyone! It’s SYSTEMIC. Everyone is stepping on the necks of the minority communities.
(sarc to the max).
Screw racism, drag the “officials” out into the street and tar&feather them. Its part of how America was founded, time to get back to it.
Policing is inherently racist because blacks commit the majority of urban crime. Cities that defund the police will be free from injustice as the black gangs will execute as required with no oversight. Hundreds have been shot and wounded since the George Floyd incident without any public concern. Most of the community in those cities are fine with that. A lot of people are quite happy with crime, burning and looting. Baltimore is leading.
Some cities can have police and civilization and others can have diversity and culture .
“Institutional Racism” is the term they are using as the rational to defund the Police.
Why?
It gives them an excuse to brand individuals who are NOT racist as “racist” simply because of the color of their uniform.
A far cry from, ” I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.”
(They also hope to extend the unrest till November and, with the help of the MSM, blame it on Trump and the Republicans.)
““Institutional Racism” is the term they are using as the rational to defund the Police.”
This is their way of dehumanizing the police. The police can’t be seen as individuals with individual thoughts, otherwise they might generate some sympathy, so the radical Left wants us to view the police as non-human and all of the same racist, violent mind.. They want us to hate the police like they do.
I love the police. They must really love their jobs considering all the flak thrown their way by a bunch of morons. They showed much more restraint that I think I could have done in the face of all those provocations. Provocations occasioned by the Antifa radicals hoping to get a reaction out of the police so they could film it and use it to bash the police.. The police pretty much thwarted their plans.
Yep, the alternative to police and a justice system that provides due process is vigilantism and lynching.
Kemaris, do you ever actually read the posts that you respond to?
He apparently reads the word, but he clearly doesn’t understand or comprehend them (or else he’s paid not to – It’s hard not to be cynical and believe that nobody can actually be as ignorant as s/he appears to be)
Here is another such article from New Republic. Associates climatism with racism and defunding the police.
https://newrepublic.com/article/157984/defunding-police-good-climate-policy
Quote:
“…Similar demands have taken root around the country. Organizers with the Black Visions Collective and Reclaim the Block in Minneapolis have called on the city’s mayor, Jacob Frey, to cut $45 million from the police budget and expand “community-led health and safety strategies.” As The New Republic’s Melissa Gira Grant explained over the weekend, the coalition Durham Beyond Policing, last year, won its campaign for the North Carolina city to invest in “life-affirming services, not an unjustified expansion of the police force.” And the Movement for Black Lives has long pushed an “Invest-Divest” policy platform demanding “investments in Black communities, determined by Black communities, and divestment from exploitative forces including prisons, fossil fuels, police, surveillance and exploitative corporations.”
I’m not sure what to make of these articles. The demands from these authors are so off-the-wall radical that I’m left wondering what is going on in their heads. Is it just desperation from the lack of the kind of change they are looking for, or is it that they are driven to be more and more radical due to recent events and the lack of significant effort to stop what they view is a climate crisis? Maybe some of both.
Hard times create strong men
Strong men create good times
Good times create weak men
Weak men create hard times
It’s easy to spot the major disasters that completely defunding law enforcement would bring, but even modest cutbacks will lead to problems they have yet to consider, assuming they have the intellectual capacity to do so.
Besides the direct damage to buildings burned a looted, how are other businesses affected? Property values plummet, but more immediately, insurance costs skyrocket, or becomes unavailable. Losing your insurance may also trigger a requirement to immediately pay off any mortgage, or the loss of business licenses. How will auto insurers handle areas with little or no enforcement of traffic laws, or the absence of police reports or investigations of accidents? No attempt to prevent auto theft or recover stolen vehicles? How much will personal property insurance cost?After Katrina, many insurance companies quit selling policies on the Gulf Coast, and those that did had very high rates.
Does anyone think there won’t be a huge ripple effect, from loss of tourism to interruption of food delivery, if there is a serious reduction in policing?
Those that want the police to be defunded are also demanding that the money saved be spent on more social “services” and non-violent community based patrols.
They actually seem to believe that such an approach will eliminate all the problems and no police will be needed.
They aren’t even pretending to do “Science” anymore. The game is over.
For “climate” (whatever that is) and for “Covid-19” (whatever that is).
Well that didn’t take long for the front liners to decide it’s all too hard and best left to the experts and office jocks to deal with looting burning and riots-
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/entire-police-unit-resigns-in-disgust-because-two-officers-were-suspended-for-pushing-elderly-man-to-ground/ar-BB155T60
Clearly the blokes are too aggressive and violent for this sort of policing task. Perhaps women police or carefully screened and selected psych/ social work/ communications/social science university graduates can take over so these sorts of upsetting incidents on our screens don’t ever occur again?
We mustn’t leave out important work for the Womens Studies graduates and the oppression of gentrifiers with BLM either-
https://www.thenation.com/article/society/tessa-majors-murder-morningside-harlem/
Calling all Meetoo and LBGTQIA volunteers for the cultural transformation of male dominated hegemonic policing to a new revolutionary talking heads kumbayah. Your community needs YOU!
‘F**k you you f***kg pigs. Go die, every last one of you,’
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/sydney/incredible-moment-a-furious-black-lives-matters-protester-pepper-sprayed-by-police-unleashes-on-cops-at-sydneys-central-station-and-what-she-has-to-say-will-break-your-heart-as-tensions-escalate/ar-BB157rEt
Thank you for your input and entreaties to come out in solidarity with the marches will be taken on notice and carefully considered.
Meanwhile we can only guess who’s involved-
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/four-teenagers-killed-in-stolen-car-crash-in-townsville/ar-BB158B4c
So much virtue signalling and breast beating and so little solutions and positive outcomes.
“There Is No Climate Justice Without Defunding the Police”
More evidence Liberalism is a mental illness, and that climate change for those afflicted has nothing to do with climate.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/texas-sees-record-uptick-covid-19-cases-protests/story?id=71089826
Another reason to not defund police…
The rioters are infecting law abiding citizens.
And the police are infecting them also
Which would be a good thing, if it was true.
” if it was true.” ….
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Do you have evidence it hasn’t happened?
Burden of proof fallacy.
If you have no evidence, I suggest you keep your mouth shut.
Moron: You made the assertion that the police are infecting the rioters. The burden of proof is on you.
You are mighty mouthy for an idiot.
Henry makes a claim, when David questions that claim Henry demands that David provide proof that Henry’s claim is false.
Henry, you made the claim, it’s up to you to prove your claim true, not others to prove it false.
Henry’s just a mindless troll who, for whatever reason, has attached himself to David. I guess he likes being bitch-slapped because every thread of David’s he shows his trollish mug in, he gets a resounding bitch-slap. This thread has turned out no different.
Shouldn’t bother you Mr. Middleton, it was you who said it was only “0.0%”
Rioters infecting other rioters doesn’t bother me. Rioters infecting police officers does bother me.
ChiCom-19 deaths in Dallas County still amount to 0.0% of the county’s population.
And in your frame of mind, you “know” that the police are not infecting the demonstrators
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LOL
Unlike a total fracking retard, I simply know how burden of proof works.
It’s amazing that you consider dead people nothing more than a “rounding error.”
260 / 2,635,516 = 0.00009865241 ~ 0.0%
Since you consider dead people to be nothing more than a “rounding error,” I am thankful that you and your wife have dogs instead of children.
Henry, it’s really sad how hatred of others causes the mind to rot.
1) It’s up to the person making the claim to prove the claim. You made the claim.
2) Your interpretation of David’s comments make no sense. David has said that we are over reacting to the deaths, he never said anything about deaths not mattering.
3) Henry, you are guilty of trying to change the subject, most likely due to the fact that you know that you are losing the original argument.
MarkW, lets see how David responds to my comment.
Moron: You made the assertion that the police are infecting the rioters. The burden of proof is on you.
If there actually is a ChiCom-19 spike in Dallas/Harris Counties, and if it is related to the protests/riots…
If rioters are infecting other rioters –> Good.
If rioters are infecting law abiding citizens –> Bad.
If rioters are infecting police officers –> Bad.
If police officers are infecting rioters –> Good.
He already beeatch slapped you. I was wondering, though, how nice a TV did you “pick up” last week?
Leftists’ end game is the destruction of Western Civilization through massive government debt, moral/empirical relativism, and the rule of men over the rule of law.
CAGW has always been a part of the scheme to achieve Leftists’ dystopian nightmare.
Leftists will eventually fail, but most of rational and moral humanity will go through hell before Leftism is ultimately defeated.
That will only happen if we return to the worldview that Western Civilization is founded upon. That there is a Law-Giver to whom everyone, even the rulers, is responsible, and that there is ultimate right and wrong. As long as the state-run school system teaches that there is no ultimate reality and no ultimate good or evil (while paradoxically teaching that our country is evil) this kind of stuff will continue.
If the cowardly police would JUST GO HOME NOW, this would be all over in now time. But, lacking the intestinal fortitude to do the right thing, this will drag on until, samurai says, humanity will go through hell. However, I would note that humanity WANTS to go through hell or they would have stopped this long ago.
I say Defund the Entitlement System. The War on Poverty has been a dismal failure and has given us a multi-generational movement that is detached from the reality of paying for what you get, in earnings from what you do.
The rioters and looters are not concerned about “racial injustice”. They are enraged by economic injustice. They have grown up in a society that subsidizes poverty and subsidizes children to dysfunctional families.
If there is one iron-clad rule of civilization it is “the value of individuals obtaining skills” that employers and customers will pay you to use. Paying people to remain non-productive is a recipe for civil disorder.
The other side of this witches brew of BAD public policy, is unfettered trade and illegal immigration that undercuts any jobs by unskilled labor for people that are stuck in poverty. How are people supposed to get on the ladder to opportunity if employers can use foreign labor at a fraction of the cost of hiring domestic labor? We have more unskilled labor and low-skilled labor than we have work for, because we have been subsidizing it. And we have artificially reduced our ability for those people to find work, by free-trade and illegal immigration.
That is the problem we have, and it has nothing to do with racism or police brutality. It has to do with people turning to crime for opportunity, where the government has sold them out through bad policies.
We now are finding out that one of our new partners in the supply chain of products that are labor intensive is fine with infecting the world with a virus that has the remarkable ability to remove old non-productive ex-workers, while not killing off the young and the working age.
If we are fine with that and return to a government that is pro-CCP, we are all one step closer to having a boot on our neck, instead of living in a “Nation conceived in Liberty”!
Now is the time to resolve the bad policies that sacrificed the poor to a life of non-productive entitlement, and give them a life of opportunity to become fully independent of charity or entitlement through the independence that comes from having skills that are in demand in a competitive economy.
Empowerment zones, control of illegal immigration, and trade policies that “incentivize” domestic production over importation of labor intensive products is the best method to start this policy. We need to provide opportunity for all, and the bad actors in the anarchist movement will not find support and safety in the communities left behind by Trojan Horse policies drawn up by the swamp critters of the entitlement agenda.
Top ten police departments collectively have a 20 billion dollar budget. Lots of fat there.
I do smell a rat though. Elites love to create Problems-to provoke Reaction and then implement a predetermined Solution.
I suspect the defunding police solution is going to translate into increased funding for some public-Private partnership or a new entity
Perhaps a contact tracing security force as outlined in Rockefellers National Testing Plan issued last April. Perhaps expanded to trace protesters and antifa.
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Given the US right to bear arms, I suspect that most people will just defend themselves aka anarchy! I reckon a new Police force will be set up within a month if only to protect the jackasses that thought abolishing the police was a really good idea.
For any politician that votes to abolish the police, I hope the criminal element quickly “thanks” them by robbing their houses.