Defund the Police… Because Climate Change

Guest “really? by David Middleton

This was in yesterday’s RealClearEnergy feed

“There Is No Climate Justice Without Defunding the Police”

There Is No Climate Justice Without Defunding the Police

I’m not going to bother quoting anything from this “article”… It’s from the Earther SJW’s at Gizmodo. Here’s the link. This is the only commentary I have:

More bad news for climate justice warriors…

Investing.com

The current oil prices are high enough for pretty well all existing producing fields and a fair percentage of undeveloped resources to at least break-even.

Rystad Energy (Click to enlarge)
Reserves/ResourceBreak-even at $42/bbl
Supply GroupBillion bbl%Billion bbl
Producing Fields798100%                798
Onshore Middle East13458%                  78
North America “Shale”13237%                  49
Offshore Shelf12036%                  43
Deepwater7719%                  14
Russia Onshore3023%                     7
Extra Heavy Oil2317%                     4
Rest of World Onshore3419%                     6
Oil Sands550%                   –  
Total                             1,40371%            1,000
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wsbriggs
June 6, 2020 7:21 am

The Riots’ impact on the national economy will be very limited. Their impact on the local economies will vary depending on the idiocy of the regulations with which the reestablishment of commerce in those areas are handicapped. Unfortunately, the areas hardest hit are exactly those areas which, prior to the recent regulation reduction from Washington, have done everything possible to keep entrepreneurship down. Upshot, there will be increased unemployment in those areas, and a number of the would be entrepreneurs will shut down or move to more fertile locations. It’s happened before.

MarkW
Reply to  wsbriggs
June 6, 2020 8:44 am

Of course the usual suspects will declare that the economic problems in those areas are the direct result of racism and capitalism which only more government can solve.

Reply to  MarkW
June 6, 2020 3:34 pm

I can guess the response when would-be store owners reply, “No, I would re-open my business, but I can no longer get affordable insurance, if any, and the city requires me to carry it.”

Who are the racists – the store owners, insurance companies, or the city? Ah ha! Everyone! It’s SYSTEMIC. Everyone is stepping on the necks of the minority communities.
(sarc to the max).

2hotel9
Reply to  jtom
June 6, 2020 3:54 pm

Screw racism, drag the “officials” out into the street and tar&feather them. Its part of how America was founded, time to get back to it.

Billy
June 6, 2020 7:52 am

Policing is inherently racist because blacks commit the majority of urban crime. Cities that defund the police will be free from injustice as the black gangs will execute as required with no oversight. Hundreds have been shot and wounded since the George Floyd incident without any public concern. Most of the community in those cities are fine with that. A lot of people are quite happy with crime, burning and looting. Baltimore is leading.
Some cities can have police and civilization and others can have diversity and culture .

Reply to  Billy
June 6, 2020 1:39 pm

“Institutional Racism” is the term they are using as the rational to defund the Police.
Why?
It gives them an excuse to brand individuals who are NOT racist as “racist” simply because of the color of their uniform.
A far cry from, ” I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.”

(They also hope to extend the unrest till November and, with the help of the MSM, blame it on Trump and the Republicans.)

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Gunga Din
June 6, 2020 6:00 pm

““Institutional Racism” is the term they are using as the rational to defund the Police.”

This is their way of dehumanizing the police. The police can’t be seen as individuals with individual thoughts, otherwise they might generate some sympathy, so the radical Left wants us to view the police as non-human and all of the same racist, violent mind.. They want us to hate the police like they do.

I love the police. They must really love their jobs considering all the flak thrown their way by a bunch of morons. They showed much more restraint that I think I could have done in the face of all those provocations. Provocations occasioned by the Antifa radicals hoping to get a reaction out of the police so they could film it and use it to bash the police.. The police pretty much thwarted their plans.

Kemaris
Reply to  Billy
June 6, 2020 1:51 pm

Yep, the alternative to police and a justice system that provides due process is vigilantism and lynching.

MarkW
Reply to  Kemaris
June 6, 2020 4:05 pm

Kemaris, do you ever actually read the posts that you respond to?

John Endicott
Reply to  MarkW
June 9, 2020 9:29 am

He apparently reads the word, but he clearly doesn’t understand or comprehend them (or else he’s paid not to – It’s hard not to be cynical and believe that nobody can actually be as ignorant as s/he appears to be)

CD in Wisconsin
June 6, 2020 8:20 am

Here is another such article from New Republic. Associates climatism with racism and defunding the police.

https://newrepublic.com/article/157984/defunding-police-good-climate-policy

Quote:
“…Similar demands have taken root around the country. Organizers with the Black Visions Collective and Reclaim the Block in Minneapolis have called on the city’s mayor, Jacob Frey, to cut $45 million from the police budget and expand “community-led health and safety strategies.” As The New Republic’s Melissa Gira Grant explained over the weekend, the coalition Durham Beyond Policing, last year, won its campaign for the North Carolina city to invest in “life-affirming services, not an unjustified expansion of the police force.” And the Movement for Black Lives has long pushed an “Invest-Divest” policy platform demanding “investments in Black communities, determined by Black communities, and divestment from exploitative forces including prisons, fossil fuels, police, surveillance and exploitative corporations.”

I’m not sure what to make of these articles. The demands from these authors are so off-the-wall radical that I’m left wondering what is going on in their heads. Is it just desperation from the lack of the kind of change they are looking for, or is it that they are driven to be more and more radical due to recent events and the lack of significant effort to stop what they view is a climate crisis? Maybe some of both.

Jim Veenbaas
June 6, 2020 8:56 am

Hard times create strong men
Strong men create good times
Good times create weak men
Weak men create hard times

June 6, 2020 8:58 am

It’s easy to spot the major disasters that completely defunding law enforcement would bring, but even modest cutbacks will lead to problems they have yet to consider, assuming they have the intellectual capacity to do so.

Besides the direct damage to buildings burned a looted, how are other businesses affected? Property values plummet, but more immediately, insurance costs skyrocket, or becomes unavailable. Losing your insurance may also trigger a requirement to immediately pay off any mortgage, or the loss of business licenses. How will auto insurers handle areas with little or no enforcement of traffic laws, or the absence of police reports or investigations of accidents? No attempt to prevent auto theft or recover stolen vehicles? How much will personal property insurance cost?After Katrina, many insurance companies quit selling policies on the Gulf Coast, and those that did had very high rates.

Does anyone think there won’t be a huge ripple effect, from loss of tourism to interruption of food delivery, if there is a serious reduction in policing?

MarkW
Reply to  jtom
June 6, 2020 10:13 am

Those that want the police to be defunded are also demanding that the money saved be spent on more social “services” and non-violent community based patrols.

They actually seem to believe that such an approach will eliminate all the problems and no police will be needed.

niceguy
June 6, 2020 9:31 am

They aren’t even pretending to do “Science” anymore. The game is over.

For “climate” (whatever that is) and for “Covid-19” (whatever that is).

observa
June 6, 2020 9:42 am

Well that didn’t take long for the front liners to decide it’s all too hard and best left to the experts and office jocks to deal with looting burning and riots-
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/entire-police-unit-resigns-in-disgust-because-two-officers-were-suspended-for-pushing-elderly-man-to-ground/ar-BB155T60

Clearly the blokes are too aggressive and violent for this sort of policing task. Perhaps women police or carefully screened and selected psych/ social work/ communications/social science university graduates can take over so these sorts of upsetting incidents on our screens don’t ever occur again?

We mustn’t leave out important work for the Womens Studies graduates and the oppression of gentrifiers with BLM either-
https://www.thenation.com/article/society/tessa-majors-murder-morningside-harlem/
Calling all Meetoo and LBGTQIA volunteers for the cultural transformation of male dominated hegemonic policing to a new revolutionary talking heads kumbayah. Your community needs YOU!

observa
Reply to  observa
June 6, 2020 5:22 pm

‘F**k you you f***kg pigs. Go die, every last one of you,’
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/sydney/incredible-moment-a-furious-black-lives-matters-protester-pepper-sprayed-by-police-unleashes-on-cops-at-sydneys-central-station-and-what-she-has-to-say-will-break-your-heart-as-tensions-escalate/ar-BB157rEt
Thank you for your input and entreaties to come out in solidarity with the marches will be taken on notice and carefully considered.

Meanwhile we can only guess who’s involved-
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/four-teenagers-killed-in-stolen-car-crash-in-townsville/ar-BB158B4c
So much virtue signalling and breast beating and so little solutions and positive outcomes.

June 6, 2020 10:08 am

“There Is No Climate Justice Without Defunding the Police”

More evidence Liberalism is a mental illness, and that climate change for those afflicted has nothing to do with climate.

Reply to  David Middleton
June 6, 2020 2:10 pm

And the police are infecting them also

Reply to  David Middleton
June 6, 2020 4:41 pm

” if it was true.” ….
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Do you have evidence it hasn’t happened?

Reply to  David Middleton
June 6, 2020 6:37 pm

If you have no evidence, I suggest you keep your mouth shut.

2hotel9
Reply to  Henry Pool
June 7, 2020 4:24 am

You are mighty mouthy for an idiot.

MarkW
Reply to  David Middleton
June 6, 2020 6:57 pm

Henry makes a claim, when David questions that claim Henry demands that David provide proof that Henry’s claim is false.

Henry, you made the claim, it’s up to you to prove your claim true, not others to prove it false.

John Endicott
Reply to  David Middleton
June 9, 2020 9:38 am

Henry’s just a mindless troll who, for whatever reason, has attached himself to David. I guess he likes being bitch-slapped because every thread of David’s he shows his trollish mug in, he gets a resounding bitch-slap. This thread has turned out no different.

Reply to  David Middleton
June 6, 2020 2:12 pm

Shouldn’t bother you Mr. Middleton, it was you who said it was only “0.0%”

Reply to  David Middleton
June 6, 2020 4:31 pm

And in your frame of mind, you “know” that the police are not infecting the demonstrators
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LOL

Reply to  David Middleton
June 6, 2020 4:33 pm

It’s amazing that you consider dead people nothing more than a “rounding error.”

Reply to  David Middleton
June 6, 2020 4:34 pm

Since you consider dead people to be nothing more than a “rounding error,” I am thankful that you and your wife have dogs instead of children.

MarkW
Reply to  David Middleton
June 6, 2020 7:00 pm

Henry, it’s really sad how hatred of others causes the mind to rot.

1) It’s up to the person making the claim to prove the claim. You made the claim.
2) Your interpretation of David’s comments make no sense. David has said that we are over reacting to the deaths, he never said anything about deaths not mattering.
3) Henry, you are guilty of trying to change the subject, most likely due to the fact that you know that you are losing the original argument.

Reply to  David Middleton
June 6, 2020 7:48 pm

MarkW, lets see how David responds to my comment.

2hotel9
Reply to  Henry Pool
June 7, 2020 4:28 am

He already beeatch slapped you. I was wondering, though, how nice a TV did you “pick up” last week?

SAMURAI
June 7, 2020 9:02 am

Leftists’ end game is the destruction of Western Civilization through massive government debt, moral/empirical relativism, and the rule of men over the rule of law.

CAGW has always been a part of the scheme to achieve Leftists’ dystopian nightmare.

Leftists will eventually fail, but most of rational and moral humanity will go through hell before Leftism is ultimately defeated.

Richard Patton
Reply to  SAMURAI
June 7, 2020 9:58 am

That will only happen if we return to the worldview that Western Civilization is founded upon. That there is a Law-Giver to whom everyone, even the rulers, is responsible, and that there is ultimate right and wrong. As long as the state-run school system teaches that there is no ultimate reality and no ultimate good or evil (while paradoxically teaching that our country is evil) this kind of stuff will continue.

Sheri
June 7, 2020 10:26 am

If the cowardly police would JUST GO HOME NOW, this would be all over in now time. But, lacking the intestinal fortitude to do the right thing, this will drag on until, samurai says, humanity will go through hell. However, I would note that humanity WANTS to go through hell or they would have stopped this long ago.

Russ R.
June 7, 2020 11:57 am

I say Defund the Entitlement System. The War on Poverty has been a dismal failure and has given us a multi-generational movement that is detached from the reality of paying for what you get, in earnings from what you do.
The rioters and looters are not concerned about “racial injustice”. They are enraged by economic injustice. They have grown up in a society that subsidizes poverty and subsidizes children to dysfunctional families.
If there is one iron-clad rule of civilization it is “the value of individuals obtaining skills” that employers and customers will pay you to use. Paying people to remain non-productive is a recipe for civil disorder.
The other side of this witches brew of BAD public policy, is unfettered trade and illegal immigration that undercuts any jobs by unskilled labor for people that are stuck in poverty. How are people supposed to get on the ladder to opportunity if employers can use foreign labor at a fraction of the cost of hiring domestic labor? We have more unskilled labor and low-skilled labor than we have work for, because we have been subsidizing it. And we have artificially reduced our ability for those people to find work, by free-trade and illegal immigration.
That is the problem we have, and it has nothing to do with racism or police brutality. It has to do with people turning to crime for opportunity, where the government has sold them out through bad policies.

We now are finding out that one of our new partners in the supply chain of products that are labor intensive is fine with infecting the world with a virus that has the remarkable ability to remove old non-productive ex-workers, while not killing off the young and the working age.
If we are fine with that and return to a government that is pro-CCP, we are all one step closer to having a boot on our neck, instead of living in a “Nation conceived in Liberty”!
Now is the time to resolve the bad policies that sacrificed the poor to a life of non-productive entitlement, and give them a life of opportunity to become fully independent of charity or entitlement through the independence that comes from having skills that are in demand in a competitive economy.
Empowerment zones, control of illegal immigration, and trade policies that “incentivize” domestic production over importation of labor intensive products is the best method to start this policy. We need to provide opportunity for all, and the bad actors in the anarchist movement will not find support and safety in the communities left behind by Trojan Horse policies drawn up by the swamp critters of the entitlement agenda.

Pft
June 7, 2020 2:27 pm

Top ten police departments collectively have a 20 billion dollar budget. Lots of fat there.

I do smell a rat though. Elites love to create Problems-to provoke Reaction and then implement a predetermined Solution.

I suspect the defunding police solution is going to translate into increased funding for some public-Private partnership or a new entity

Perhaps a contact tracing security force as outlined in Rockefellers National Testing Plan issued last April. Perhaps expanded to trace protesters and antifa.

Quilter
June 10, 2020 1:07 am

Given the US right to bear arms, I suspect that most people will just defend themselves aka anarchy! I reckon a new Police force will be set up within a month if only to protect the jackasses that thought abolishing the police was a really good idea.

John Endicott
Reply to  Quilter
June 11, 2020 3:43 am

For any politician that votes to abolish the police, I hope the criminal element quickly “thanks” them by robbing their houses.