Oregon’s Dem Governor Signs A Climate Executive Order After GOP Lawmakers Flee For Idaho

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March 11, 2020 1:47 PM ET

Oregon Gov. Kate Brown took a page out of Sen. Bernie Sanders’s playbook Tuesday as she signed a climate executive order after GOP lawmakers fled the state to avoid taking action on a climate bill.

Brown’s order intends to reduce carbon emissions by 45% below 1990 levels within 15 years and an 80% cut by 2050. The order also directs regulators to issue rules placing caps on emissions for the state’s fossil fuel industry, a move conservatives say would decimate rural parts of the state.

“I’ve heard it loud and clear from our young people in Oregon: climate action is crucial and urgent,” Brown said in a statement announcing the move. “If we adults don’t take action right away, it is the next generation that will pay the price.

“This executive order is extensive and thorough, taking the boldest actions available to lower greenhouse gas emissions under current state laws,” Brown said, adding that she made the decision to help set “Oregon on a path we can be proud to leave behind for our children.”

The Democrat’s maneuver also requires 20% of her state’s transportation fuels to come from electricity, natural gas, and propane within a decade, and 25% by 2035. (RELATED: Republican Lawmakers Flee Oregon Again To Avoid A Climate Bill Capping Greenhouse Gasses)

Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) (L)  (Photo by Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images)

Brown’s EO comes less than a month after 11 Republican lawmakers walked out of the state capitol, preventing the majority party from reaching a quorum on a cap-and-trade bill. They say making tracks for another state was one of their only options after Democrats won the majority in 2018.

Her decision was a long-time in the making. Republicans employed a similar tactic in 2019, when they walked out in June to prevent a quorum in protest against HB 2020, a cap-and-trade climate bill. They stayed away even after Brown authorized Oregon State Police to return the lawmakers to Salem.

Republicans railed against the bill at the time.

“Pay attention Oregon — this is a true example of partisan politics,” Oregon Senate Republican Leader Herman Baertschiger Jr. said in a statement in February. Others were similarly apoplectic.

“Denying quorum is one of the only tools that the minority party has right now,” Senate Republican spokeswoman Kate Gillem told WaPo, noting that the bill is too divisive to move forward during the legislature’s 35-day “short session.”

Brown’s decision is similar to one Sen. Bernie Sanders proposed on the campaign trail.

Sanders, a self-avowed democratic socialist, revealed his own Green New Deal in August 2019, promising everything from “virtually free” electricity and a “hunger-free” transition to green energy from fossil fuels. His nearly 14,000-page memo also lays out that he would call a national emergency on climate change.

Sanders did say his plan to makeover the American economy will create “up to 20 million” jobs. He introduced a $16.3-trillion plan similar to the GND in August, which aims to make 100% of energy for U.S. electricity and transportation renewable by 2030 and have “complete decarbonization” by 2050.

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John Tillman
March 11, 2020 6:05 pm

Proud to say that my OR state senator, a friend from my home town, is now safely ensconced in an undisclosed location.

Bryan A
Reply to  John Tillman
March 11, 2020 9:06 pm

Perhaps it’s time for the Oregonian Republicans to prompt a write in campaign from their constituents to Protest this EO and demand a popular vote on Carbon Legislation items that double or triple costs

Reply to  Bryan A
March 12, 2020 1:02 am

after GOP lawmakers fled the state to avoid taking action on a climate bill.

No, they fled to take action, thus blocking a stupid state destroying bill. The executive order can easily be reversed as soon as a responsible Governor is elected.

Reply to  Bryan A
March 12, 2020 1:06 am

I’d like to know where those out to destroy the economy think this will lead them. It is only wealthy countries which have the luxury to worry about “the environment”.

3rd world and developing nations have more pressing issues on their mind and tend to destroy everything the environment has to offer.

Reducing the West the 3rd world status will destroy the high environmental standards we have adopted in the last 50y.

Pat Frank
Reply to  Bryan A
March 12, 2020 7:51 am

It’s time for eastern Oregon to secede.

John Tillman
Reply to  Pat Frank
March 12, 2020 9:21 am

Southern OR, northern CA and eastern WA as well, to create the states of Jefferson and Columbia. Or West Idaho.

Reply to  Pat Frank
March 12, 2020 3:29 pm

That’s not necessarily far-fetched. I don’t think the US constitution forbids a county in one state voting to move to an adjacent one assuming the receiving state okays it. I’d want to switch to Idaho if I lived in eastern Oregon or Nevada from central California.

Reply to  Paul
March 12, 2020 6:07 pm

I believe the move has to be approved by the legislatures of both states.

Reply to  John Tillman
March 12, 2020 8:03 am

He should resign. He does not do his job as an elected legislator by hiding out. By refusing to obey the law, he ended up with a much more draconian executive order.

Of course, he and his fellow GOP legislators would be more effective by not only obeying the law and doing their damned jobs, but they can also file suit against the governor’s executive, order which sounds like a clear abuse of her powers as governor. She cannot make laws on her own. A federal court, if not a state court, will certainly agree that governors cannot make laws.

Look, Oregon is a liberal-majority state. If individual Republicans cannot abide by that, they can either start winning elections or vote with their feet and move to Idaho, which is a conservative majority state.

Deliberately disobeying the law in a failed attempt to ignore political reality is banana republic stuff.

John Tillman
Reply to  Duane
March 12, 2020 9:20 am

The tactic was most recently pioneered by WI Democrats fleeing to IL.

It’s a perfectly constitutional ploy, which is why the US and state constitutions define quora.

My senator is doing his duty, representing his district.

Reply to  John Tillman
March 12, 2020 11:09 am

Whether a tactic is valid or not depends on whether the socialists benefit from it.

Reply to  John Tillman
March 13, 2020 7:18 am

No he is doing the opposite of his duty which is to represent his constituents in the legislature. Defying the law is criminal behavior.

Be a man or a woman, vote and speak as you will, but the voters of the State of Oregon are the ultimate judge. They elect the legislators and the governor. And then the courts rule on whether the governor exceeded her authority.

Taking your ball and going home is the ultimate losers and lawbreaker’s tactic.

Reply to  Duane
March 12, 2020 11:08 am

It really is fascinating how offended socialists get when they don’t get all the free stuff they believe themselves entitled to.

The legislator is doing the job he was hired to do. He’s protecting those who voted for him from the tyrannical over reach of the socialists who are ruining their state.

Wow, love it or leave it. I remember a whole bunch of socialists who got quite offended over that statement a few decades back.

Reply to  MarkW
March 13, 2020 7:20 am

There are very few socialists involved in this dispute.

And no, the legislator hiding out in Idaho was not hired to not legislate, and to disobey the law and the rules set forth for the legitlature.

Reply to  Duane
March 12, 2020 4:43 pm


You need to explain what law(s) you are referring to.

You said it three times.

What law was disobeyed? Who failed to obey any law?

(If you feel a need to exaggerate to make your point, then it is fairly obvious that are consciously aware that your point is lacking)

Reply to  DonM
March 13, 2020 7:24 am

The law requires that elected legislators show and do their jobs. That is the law in every part of the United States. Deliberately hiding out in order to prevent a quorum and thus defy the will of the People to have a functioning legislature is a violation of the law.

That is why governors in all states, as well as the legislatures in all states are empowered by the law to find and arrest legislators who are hiding out, and physically drag them into the legislative chambers to force them to do their jobs.

It is NEVER the right of any elected legislator to nullify the entire state legislature. Doesn’t matter which party or which constituency is involved. It is simply lawless behavior that will not be tolerated by the People.

Reply to  Duane
March 16, 2020 10:17 am

“It is NEVER the right of any elected legislator to nullify the entire state legislature.” You write this as if a single person is doing this. As you know that is not the case, it is enough that there is not a quorum. AGAIN, if you feel the need to exaggerate to make your point you must realize that there something severely wrong with your point.

With respect to being unlawful … are you able to quote statute. If you can you could forward it to the Oregon governor; it may appreciate your help (last year it leaned toward legal compulsion … after research it decided that there is nothing it can do … not even dock salaries). If you can’t provide a LAW that is being ‘disobeyed’ they just accept you are basing your thoughts on emotion and go away….

March 11, 2020 6:14 pm

“Brown’s order intends to reduce carbon emissions by 45% below 1990 levels within 15 years and an 80% cut by 2050”

That’s great!
Thank you Oregon!
You are a model for the world.

Here is how that would moderate global warming if the whole world followed suit and did what Oregon is doing.


And how it will slow down the sea level rise


Reply to  chaamjamal
March 11, 2020 8:14 pm

This is their real worry, even during a pandemic. Everything else is ancillary and only useful in so far as it helps them to get the political power necessary to push this hoax and ruin blue collar American workers.

Bryan A
Reply to  Luke
March 11, 2020 9:26 pm

Perhaps a good legal mind could tie it up in court for years on appeals considering the potential far reaching financial impacts and probable ecological impacts from mineral mining necessary to fulfill what would become “Renewable Energies” largest build out to replace fossil sourced energy.

How many Gigatonnes of tailings need to be removed and processed to get the needed minerals to produce the necessary quantity of wind turbines, solar panels and batteries required to complete such a gargantuan replacement task?

Then what will be done to create viable replacements for the Thousands of items dependant on Petrochemicals for their production.

It takes Coal to make steel and Petrochemical Plastic Composites to make strong/light wind turbine blades

Reply to  chaamjamal
March 12, 2020 7:22 am

Dude, why don’t you zero your self out! I’m sick of country destroying-economy killing fools… No brain ‘ hopefully no kids, that’s what I call Zero.

March 11, 2020 6:15 pm

Sanders said that his plan to makeover the American economy would create “up to 20 million” jobs. He just didn’t tell people that these would be jobs in China.

Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
March 11, 2020 6:42 pm

Nicholas tesdorf: ” create up to 20 million jobs”. To demonstrate an argument of reductio ad absurdum, and how the Sanders statement can mean nothing, one job, and no more is within the range of “up to 20 million jobs”.

Bryan A
Reply to  John
March 11, 2020 7:34 pm

And 17M jobs at $17T equates to a cost of $1,000,000 per job

Reply to  Bryan A
March 11, 2020 8:16 pm

I’ll work for that, part time.

Reply to  Bob Greene
March 12, 2020 1:11 am

#MeToo !

Now we just need to find 17 million rich folks who can spare a million or two.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Bob Greene
March 12, 2020 2:32 am

You might find them in India.

Bryan A
Reply to  Bob Greene
March 12, 2020 10:54 am

Both Styers and Bloomberg just wasted over 1/2B$ on their respective Failed Presidential Campaigns
that’d be 500-600 jobs right there

Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
March 11, 2020 6:46 pm

Globalism requires ecological pollution and other sacrifices for environmentalism.

Reply to  n.n
March 12, 2020 7:11 am

Actually it doesn’t.

I have to give your programmers credit, this time your post actually made sense, even though it was 100% wrong.

Ed Zuiderwijk
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
March 12, 2020 2:11 am

He could create 60 million jobs if he let the grave digging be done with teaspoons.

Alan D. McIntire
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
March 12, 2020 5:04 am

The ancient Egyptians building pyramids created thousands of jobs. The problem was, they weren’t PRODUCTIVE jobs, The result just made everyone poorer, due to missed opportunity costs,

March 11, 2020 6:17 pm

So, it’s not CO2, bur rather carbon that is a first-order forcing of their obsession. How very PC: planned carbon.

March 11, 2020 6:43 pm

>Brown’s order intends to reduce carbon emissions by 45% below 1990 levels within 15 years
2035 would be 40 years after the character in the 1995 movie “The American President” acted like 20% was rational, for the USA overall.
What they want is a 20 percent reduction in fossil fuel emissions.
It won’t pass at 20 percent.
We haven’t really tried.

I have seen “[We] might expect the average molecule of CO2 to remain in the atmosphere for only three to four years.” which calculates as almost all the CO2 emitted in 1995 will be gone by 2035 which proves that the whole thing was not worth doing back then at all. That their urgency was a total fantasy. Maybe it is now as well.

William R. Clifton
March 11, 2020 6:44 pm

I don’t understand what is going to happen when these goals are not met. How stupid are people and how do they become educated? When will people recognize that they are driving up the cost of living for no gains. When will people recognize that those who can least afford the cost of these exercises suffer the most?

Reply to  William R. Clifton
March 11, 2020 9:16 pm

The ROI (Return On Investment) for political contributions is far over 706:1 … earn $706 for every dollar invested. The best democracy money can buy.


Step 1, invest in propane powered or electric bus companies.
Step 2, get this bill passed.
Step 3, profit.

shortus cynicus
Reply to  Michael
March 12, 2020 2:39 am

And you can inform your friends about any decision beforehand so they can make short time highly leveraged bets. This would be an illegal insider trading, but there is an exemption for senators (and probably all the left general as unwritten secret low).

Just ask son of communist Bernie Sanders how much is he making in his investment found. I bet he is much ‘better’ than other professional hedge fund managers.

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  William R. Clifton
March 12, 2020 3:50 am

William R. Clifton – March 11, 2020 at 6:44 pm

How stupid are people and how do they become educated?

William, they can become educated if parents “home school” their children …… and the past three or four generations of Public School students are really stupid ….. and there is not much one can do about that now.

March 11, 2020 6:52 pm

It’s easy to make promises for a time frame well beyond your administration…accountability not required

Not Chicken Little
March 11, 2020 7:07 pm

As Milton Friedman once observed, if the object is just to create jobs, take away the shovels and make everyone use spoons…

I think that’s what’s behind Bernie’s 20 million jobs.

Bryan A
Reply to  Not Chicken Little
March 11, 2020 7:37 pm

Every car will be powered by pedal powered electric generation creation 10 jobs for every traveler. They’re working on installing the pedals below all bus seats right now

Reply to  Bryan A
March 11, 2020 11:33 pm

I luv it Bryan A – thanks for making me LOL

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  Bryan A
March 12, 2020 5:51 am

Yes the bus will be able to carry only a single passenger. All the others on the bus will be there not to be transported but for “propulsion.” LMAO.

Reply to  AGW is Not Science
March 12, 2020 7:27 am

The seats upfront by the windows have no pedals, they are for the policy makers and elite.
The seats with pedals are for the middle class.
The handles on the outside of the bus are for the poor.
But be not dismayed, the poor and middle class only need push and pedal when going uphill…

Berndt Koch
Reply to  Bryan A
March 12, 2020 9:48 am

I’m starting a company making Flintstones cars, we will also convert current cars by cutting holes in the floor.. anyone want to invest?

Bryan A
Reply to  Berndt Koch
March 12, 2020 10:58 am

Flintstone car conversion kit…

Hoist to remove the offending ICE engine and running gear
Sawsall to create needed holes in floor
Rubber strips to make holes leg friendly

Reply to  Bryan A
March 12, 2020 12:31 pm

Don’t laugh, it wasn’t all that long ago Portland, OR was seriously considering a proposal to ban all vehicles downtown. Deliveries could be made by foot, bicycle and light rail. Yes, they really are that loony in Portland and they control the state.

Howard Dewhirst
March 11, 2020 7:19 pm

So Oregon is going to save the western world, while China & India power ahead with fossil fuels? And this green ‘order’ will, if taken up by the western world, condemn 2.5 billion people to continue to cook all of their meals with wood or cow dung, causing 3 million to die prematurely every year.
Well done Kate Brown of Oregon.

Ben Gunn
Reply to  Howard Dewhirst
March 11, 2020 10:37 pm

Howard, you can’t cook with cow dung. It comes from farting cows and they will be forbidden.

Howard Dewhirst
Reply to  Ben Gunn
March 11, 2020 11:10 pm

You are quite correct, so it will have to be elephant dung instead – if there are any left.

Reply to  Ben Gunn
March 12, 2020 2:11 am

kelp additives, no farts. quite popular with most of the feed lots now since it stops projectile shit from getting on the vehicles, equipment and reduces hoof-mouth

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  Howard Dewhirst
March 12, 2020 3:57 am

Howard Dewhirst – March 11, 2020 at 7:19 pm

Well done Kate Brown of Oregon.

And millions of people truly believe that the next US POTUS should be a female.

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  Howard Dewhirst
March 12, 2020 4:06 am

Excerpt from article:

“I’ve heard it loud and clear from our young people in Oregon: climate action is crucial and urgent, ”(Gov. Kate) Brown said in a statement announcing the move. “If we adults don’t take action right away, it is the next generation that will pay the price.

“YUP”, …… “ Well done Kate Brown of Oregon.

Charles Higley
March 11, 2020 7:29 pm

So, the children are running Oregon. 45% less than 1990 emission levels means going back to the 1800’s. She is an idiot, defined as one who has no idea what is going on around them.

Her goals will destroy the state and its people everywhere. It simply cannot be done, and that’s a conservative estimate.

Bryan A
Reply to  Charles Higley
March 11, 2020 7:40 pm

It works if you utilized the liberal estimates

Reply to  Bryan A
March 12, 2020 7:15 am

It works if you utilize liberals for power.

Reply to  Charles Higley
March 11, 2020 8:11 pm

The “children” (those 25 and under) have been brainwashed in the public schools to believe all kinds of lies about global warming and socialism in general. The 26th Amendment (among others) ought to be repealed – the majority of the kids under 21 (if not 25) have little clue what they’re voting for, and no life experience to inform them of what a good choice would be.

Reply to  Don
March 11, 2020 9:21 pm

Children can see pro vax propaganda idiocy easily, adults (adultoids), not so much.

Reply to  niceguy
March 11, 2020 9:56 pm

And how many children died throughout the ages due to no vaccines? Explain why in some detail what the risk is and back it up with factual links that isn’t quackery? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. In any case, even if there is 1-10,000 chance that there is an extreme reaction in some, isn’t that still a win-win for virtually everyone?

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  Earthling2
March 12, 2020 4:12 am

And how many children died throughout the ages due to no vaccines?

And how many children died throughout the ages due to hunger and senseless wars?

Reply to  Earthling2
March 12, 2020 7:16 am

So getting rid of vaccines will end hunger and senseless wars?

You have heard of non-sequitors, haven’t you?

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  Earthling2
March 13, 2020 2:48 am

So getting rid of vaccines will end hunger and senseless wars?

So, MarkW, ….just how much salary does a “writer” for the cable TV …. “Democrat talking heads” get paid?

Reply to  niceguy
March 12, 2020 7:17 am

What propaganda?
Are you talking about the science that time and again has proven that vaccines are safe and effective?

John Tillman
Reply to  Charles Higley
March 11, 2020 8:36 pm

Yes, Kate Brown is a blithering idiot, and heeding her adolescent supporters will guarantee disaster. But, thank God, her powers to destroy are limited.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  John Tillman
March 12, 2020 7:45 am

Not just an idiot. Rather, a megalomaniac who feels justified in usurping the role of the legislature through an executive order.

Not unlike Obama, who was frustrated that Congress wasn’t passing the gun control legislation he wanted, and admitted as such. So, he issued an executive order covering what he publicly recognized as the purview if the legislature.

This does not bode well for the future of the republic when governors and presidents rationalize taking over the responsibilities of their respective legislatures. The irony is that liberals have expressed concern about the behavior of Trump when it is democrats who have a track record of ignoring the division of powers.

Reply to  Clyde Spencer
March 12, 2020 11:19 am

The proper role of the legislature is to do what the executive tells them to do.
When they fail to perform their proper function, the executive is entitled to do what ever she needs to do in order to get what she wants done.

Government, as viewed by a socialist.

Reply to  Charles Higley
March 11, 2020 8:38 pm

Stupid is as stupid does …:



Jean Parisot
Reply to  Charles Higley
March 12, 2020 7:02 am

Several new nuclear plants and few more dams, might help.

William Wood
Reply to  Charles Higley
March 12, 2020 1:16 pm

Yhe concern appears to be fossil fuels. By returning to the mid-1800s, we can return to the classic era of whale oil. This would allow us to ban the use of fossil fuel energy for lighting and, with sufficient refining, diesel transportation. Being a Pacific coastal state, whale oil qualifies as locally sourced and, as long as you maintain breeding pairs, renewable. Whaling used to be a major industry although 20 million jobs may be a stretch.

New Oregon bumper sticker “Save the Fuel Source”.

Joel O'Bryan
March 11, 2020 7:42 pm

Just like happened to Obama’s executive actions, subsequent lawsuits filed by affected parties should be forthcoming. Thus we may see Oregon State Courts should put an injunction on this.

I say should, because State courts tend to be a lot more political as State judges, unlike Federal judges, do not hold life terms.

Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
March 12, 2020 7:18 am

That depends on the state, and the level.

Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
March 12, 2020 3:53 pm

The courts, up to and including the Oregon Supreme Court have been stuffed with people convinced that a progressive agenda is more important than anything else.

March 11, 2020 8:01 pm

“… requires 20% of her state’s transportation fuels to come from electricity, natural gas, and propane within a decade, and 25% by 2035….” So just counting state owned transportation vehicles probably gives you close to the number required and heavily subsidizing personal vehicles will hit it. Wait until the citizens of Oregon find out what this will cost them. Should be a real business enhancer 🙂

Richard of NZ
Reply to  markl
March 12, 2020 1:53 am

Within a decade includes tomorrow. Why do the “carbon” fuel suppliers not just reduce Oregon’s fuel supply by 29% tomorrow? That would be within the limits defined and demonstrate to the “children” exactly what they are demanding is.

Reply to  markl
March 12, 2020 7:19 am

“Should be a real business enhancer ”

For the states surrounding Oregon.

TG McCoy
March 11, 2020 8:05 pm

there will be constitutional fight over this. I suspect we will appreciate the revamping of the 9th circus by president Trump.. I personally know Kate. She got out of law and into politics.
Pole Dancing was clearly.

John Tillman
Reply to  TG McCoy
March 11, 2020 8:46 pm

When was Kate ever into law?

Or for that matter pole dancing? Thank God!

Reply to  John Tillman
March 12, 2020 7:19 am

I pity the poor pole …

Ruby's Dad
March 11, 2020 8:06 pm

This is insane. I can’t believe that the irrational fears of children are now explicitly directing state action. Just so all of you know, there are a lot of Oregonians that don’t reside physically and/or mentally within the elite bubble of the Portland metro area and that haven’t gone insane. That said, I have a number of highly-educated, very technically astute colleagues that buy this *stuff* hook, line and sinker. Very discouraging…

March 11, 2020 8:43 pm

Another unmentioned item wrt Sander’s plan is how many current jobs it will destroy. I’m just spit balling here, but I’d venture a guess it is more than 20M.

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  MDN
March 12, 2020 6:00 am

I think based on the experience of, what was it, Portugal?, the ratio was about three REAL jobs lost for every useless, productivity destroying “Green” job “created.”

The perfect example is taking away construction equipment like back hoes, tractor shovels and bulldozers, along with built for the purpose hand tools like shovels and picks, and replacing all of that with an army of “workers” armed with teaspoons.

Lots of “jobs” are “created,” but productivity declines to the point where none of the “workers” can earn enough from the work they perform to afford to feed, much less cloth and house and transport, themselves, and for that matter, their dependents.

Brian O'Connor
March 11, 2020 8:54 pm

What is most significant is that the Republicans asked that the cap and trade proposal be submitted as a ballot measure to the electorate. Kate Brown and her Dems knew the electorate would vote it down, so they refused the request.

Hence the disappearing act.

Kate Brown is in the second and final year as governor. She cannot run again. So for her, what’s to lose?

Reply to  Brian O'Connor
March 12, 2020 5:04 pm

Also note that the legislation was deemed as emergency legislation, to keep it from being overruled by the voting public.

This is one aspect of the whole deal that the republican party didn’t really try to highlight (’cause, on occasion, they like to do it to). One of the fixes to the Oregon problem should be that new laws/rules cannot be passed as emergency legislation unless 75% of the house and senate agree that it is actually an emergency.

This will only happen through initiative petition, and there is little funding to fix a big picture item like this because it doesn’t directly favor an individual entity.

March 11, 2020 9:02 pm

As an energy expert, I say this plan cannot work – it will be a costly disaster. It will fail due to the intermittency and diffusivity of wind and solar power. Battery storage will not solve the problems. The grid will crash from time-to-time unless out-of-state power interconnects are adequate to prevent it. This plan will waste billions and will ultimately be scrapped

I hate needless waste: To date, green energy schemes have wasted trillions of dollars worldwide, increased energy costs, destabilized the grid, and increased winter deaths, especially among the elderly and the poor.

With few exceptions, existing green energy schemes should be scrapped and no new ones built. Future generations, who will pay for this nonsense, will wonder at the incredible stupidity and corruption that caused this debacle.

My expertise is energy – while I may not know everything, I know a lot more than anyone who voted for this debacle and their advisors, and I have a much stronger track record. This plan will fail.

Regards, Allan

Tom Abbott
March 11, 2020 9:16 pm

Hey, Kate, CO2 doesn’t need controlling. The children don’t know what they are talking about.

Kate is lost in a delusion which causes her to make counterproductive decisions. Or maybe she is just a cynical politician using human-caused climate change scaremongering as a means to a political/personal end.

I don’t know which applies, but either way, she is harming the people of Oregon, not helping them.

Democrats seem to be really becoming detached from reality. I heard tonight that the Democrats in the House of Representatives are putting up for vote tomorrow a law that would prevent Trump from banning people trying to enter the United States.

Now how stupid is that. Democrats again demonstrate they are incapable of defending the United States. It’s truly delusional to think Trump shouldn’t be allowed to restrict entry into the United States, especiallly since the U.S. Constitution vests that power in the president.

Democrats are crazy. Don’t elect them. They’ve gone off the Deep End.

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  Tom Abbott
March 12, 2020 4:27 am

Tom Abbott – March 11, 2020 at 9:16 pm

Democrats seem to be really becoming detached from reality.

Not so, …… most every Democrat politician is extremely focused on the reality of what is necessary to get elected or re-elected, …… nothing else matters.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Samuel C Cogar
March 12, 2020 5:12 am

“most every Democrat politician is extremely focused on the reality of what is necessary to get elected or re-elected, …… nothing else matters”

I agree with that, Samuel. But that doesn’t mean the Democrats are not crazy. Psychopaths have the ability to focus intently on their own selfish desires.

Michael Dixon
March 11, 2020 10:02 pm

The Oregon Republicans wanted the citizens of Oregon to be able to vote on the climate bill as the citizens of Washington State were able to ( which they defeated). But the Oregon Dems didn’t want that since they feared it would be rejected by the voters same as happened in Washington. That is one of the reasons the republicans walked out (twice). So Kate Brown did an executive order to circumvent the walk out, and deny Oregonians the chance to vote.

Reply to  Michael Dixon
March 11, 2020 10:21 pm

The autocratic nature of progressives revealed once again. But why fault them for their oppressive behavior? After all they know what’s best for the proletariat you.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  stinkerp
March 12, 2020 5:15 am

“The autocratic nature of progressives revealed once again.”

Yes, sir! This is their natural tendency. They think they know best, what you should do. And if you don’t agree, they will impose their will on you.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
March 12, 2020 7:22 am

They are so convinced of their superiority, that they are even willing to have those who oppose them jailed or killed.

March 11, 2020 10:15 pm

I’ve heard it loud and clear from our young people in Oregon: climate action is crucial and urgent

Do you really think you should be making decisions that affect the lives of millions of people based on the wisdom of the Greta Thunbergs of the world? Think hard…

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  stinkerp
March 12, 2020 6:16 am

LOL – in other words, she’ll “hear the voices” of only those who are deluded enough, foolish enough, inexperienced (in life) enough, or stupid enough to “believe” that “climate action” in ONE state of the U.S. is “crucial,” when “human CO2 emissions” are being driven by China and India anyway, and when there is no empirical evidence that such “emissions” drive atmospheric CO2 OR that atmospheric CO2 drives the Earth’s climate.

And she’ll happily ignore those who are better informed, wiser, and smarter, and who are unwilling to sign up for their own economic suicide in what would be futile “action” EVEN IF there was any ACTUAL effect on the Earth’s climate that could be measured based on human CO2 emissions, because it’s not what SHE wants.

Howard Dewhirst
March 11, 2020 11:15 pm

Whatever happened to the Oregon petition and the thousands of scientists who signed it? Have they all lost their grants?
I have tried to contact the organisers but don’t get a reply. The petition needs to be updated and re-issued?

Martin A
March 12, 2020 12:45 am

“I’ve heard it loud and clear from our young people in Oregon: climate action is crucial and urgent”

Reminds me of “The children’s crusade” https://www.history.com/news/the-disastrous-time-tens-of-thousands-of-children-tried-to-start-a-crusade

“… But the ill-fated journey shows how the influence of just a few persuasive voices can incite a full-blown movement—even one that ends in humiliation and disaster”

March 12, 2020 1:21 am

Republicans hate democracy.

Joel OBryan
Reply to  Steve45
March 12, 2020 4:57 am

Yes, you are correct.
Democracies ultimately devolve into a tyranny of the majority.
Republicans hate Democracies.
Democrats love tyranny.

That is why our US constitution sets up a republic of elected representation through legislative bodies. Laws only come from this representative body, not from a King/Dictator, or Governor trying to impose her will where the Legislative body doesn’t deliver what she wants.

Thus this Governor’s fiat-order has no force of law in our system of government. It is a violation of fundamental separation of powers. The third branch, the judicial, has review powers with the responsibility to check this executive’s overreach against the will of the People and the violation of the constitution it represents.

In that understanding, you understand where the name Democrats and Republicans originates. Democrats want to make our system of government into something it is not.

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  Steve45
March 12, 2020 5:58 am

Bills of this nature in Oregon are supposed to go to a plebiscite. There is an exemption for “emergencies”. Funny how Demonrats always figure it’s an emergency. Wish in this case the courts would reign them in, but not happening. So, who hates democracy now?

John the Econ
Reply to  Steve45
March 12, 2020 7:03 am

Indeed. “Democracy” is just the polite word for “mob rule”. That is why we are a constitutional republc.

Reply to  Steve45
March 12, 2020 7:24 am

Projection on steroids.
How exactly is executive action, democracy?

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Steve45
March 12, 2020 7:54 am

I want to commend you on how articulate you are, and your demonstrated perception of the subtleties of the workings of a republic.

Reply to  Steve45
March 12, 2020 8:43 am

Ironically, Steve45 got it exactly backwards. Republicans want the citizens of Oregon to decide this controversial issue—in a statewide referendum—that affects the lives and economy of every Oregonian rather than leaving it in the hands of a small, recently elected, tyrannical Democratic majority in the state legislature. The legislature doesn’t want the citizens to decide for themselves.

So based on their actions it’s theDemocrats that seem to “hate” democracy.

P.S. looks like other commenters missed your meaning and decided to lecture on republic versus democracy. Fyi, lecturers, there are no pure “democracies” in the world and never have been. We use the term “democracy” to mean “representative”; in other words the will of the electorate decides, either through electing representatives or through direct voting (state referendums) on issues.

Reply to  stinkerp
March 12, 2020 11:21 am

Socialists define democracy as them winning.
Whenever they lose, that is by definition, a failure of democracy.
So naturally when Republicans prevent the socialists from doing whatever they want, this just proves that Republicans hate democracy.

J Mac
Reply to  Steve45
March 12, 2020 11:35 am

Your false statement is unsupported by facts. Oregon Gov. Kate Brown and the state democrats refused to put the proposal on a state-wide ballot for the voters to democratically decide the issue, demonstrating emphatically they are the ones refusing to embrace democracy. Fact based reason suggests your statement should say ‘Oregon Democrats hate democracy’…..

US of A Republicans support our Representative Republic, our Constitution and Amendments, and reality based reason. We don’t ‘hate’ democracy, so put away your false ad hom tar brush. Reality based experience and reason shows our Representative Republic is a superior form of government to unrestrained ‘democracy’. The restraining actions of the Oregon Republican Representatives successfully demonstrated this, when the democrats refused to allow a statewide vote on a divisive issue that will destroy the Oregon state economy without any positive effect for the citizens.

Why does Steve45 project ‘hate’ as his sole argument? It is irrational… and unreal.

March 12, 2020 3:16 am

Totalitarians are gonna totalitarinate. And it’s for the children, of course.

Alan D. McIntire
March 12, 2020 5:06 am

I would think an executive order would affect only the Executive Branch of the Oregon state government, and would have no legal binding effect on the Oregon private sector,

Jeff Id
March 12, 2020 5:37 am

We are a country loaded with heavily propagandized minds. They are incapable of recognizing basic common sense facts and it will cost us big.

I blame the public education system where everything starts with the premise of global warming doom and extends from there.

March 12, 2020 6:44 am

Politicians easily set unrealistic deadlines for impossible goals, and those deadlines are always for when the politicians expect to be out of office.

John the Econ
March 12, 2020 7:05 am

A subsistence existence does tend to create high employment. Everyone else dies.

March 12, 2020 7:09 am

“I’ve heard it loud and clear from our young people in Oregon”

I wasn’t aware that young people were the only ones that matter in the state of Oregon.
Every time this issue is put to a referendum of the actual voters, it loses.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  MarkW
March 12, 2020 7:58 am

To paraphrase the gov’, “I’ve heard it loud and clear from those too young to vote in Oregon.” She apparently doesn’t realize why there is a minimum age requirement for voting.

John the Econ
Reply to  MarkW
March 12, 2020 9:26 am

Portland is where young people go to retire.


Reply to  John the Econ
March 12, 2020 11:23 am

I had to retire last year. I’m hoping the new set will last 50,000 miles.

Beta Blocker
Reply to  John the Econ
March 12, 2020 7:28 pm

Traffic in Portland has become insane. If I have to travel through there headed west or east, then I try to time my entry into the Portland freeway system for between 10 AM and 2 PM. Same for Seattle. The only other place I’ve seen personally that’s worse for nightmare traffic is the Washington DC beltway.

March 12, 2020 10:01 am

Oregon is a communist state. Visit there to see your future. No votes count, nor do opinions from the little people. You have filth on the streets, violence everywhere and they call it Nirvana. These people deserve whatever they get.

March 12, 2020 12:20 pm

I’ve seen violence on Portland streets. Not going back.

March 12, 2020 12:59 pm

Kate Brown hates allowing Oregonians to vote, as Secretary of State she made it harder to get any referendum on the ballot. She upped all sorts of requirements to getting a bill on the ballot, when that didn’t work she started whole sale tossing out signatures. At first she started tossing out entire sheets if just one invalid signature was identified then she brought in supposed statistical analysis to toss out even more valid signatures. In the end those trying to gather signatures internally upped the number they needed to gather to ensure they made the state required minimum.

Now that she’s Governor she wants to totally bypass voters all together and that’s why we are seeing all these “Emergency” bills coming out of Salem. If it’s tagged as an emergency it gets to go into effect immediately and it’s up to the voters to try and stop it after the fact.

FYI, for non Oregonians. Voters passed the ability to tag bills as an emergency for actual emergencies like funding flood relief, making money available to fight fires, etc., anything time sensitive where there wasn’t going to be time to go out and ask the voters first. It’s only recently that the democrats started abusing the bill by tagging everything as an emergency so they could bypass public voting. Make no mistake, this is all about bypassing the voters because they know they’ll be told no if they ask first. The gambit is to pass a bill, get it in place then cry we are throwing grandma out into the snow if voters repeal it.

John Lentini
March 12, 2020 1:11 pm

Hello, the following article demonstrates that a carbon dioxide tax would cost us a lot of money and have no effect on the climate. Using the authors data an additional view is as follows; Manmade emissions of greenhouse gases in 2019 were 55.3 billion tons of carbon dioxide-equivalent; From Sciencing.com there are approximately 3 trillion tons of dioxide in the atmosphere; that means that 55.3 billion tons divided by 3000 billion tons times 100% is man’s contribution. The answer is approximately 1.84%. This is another reason man’s reduction of carbon dioxide would result in no measurable change in climate.

Many of America’s corporate and academic elites have united to advocate for a carbon tax.

With all the money and brains behind the self-anointed “Climate Leadership Council” (CLC) you would think it would be able to figure out  the math is simple  that a carbon tax will have no effect on climate. There are reasons they haven’t.

The CLC is undertaking a media and lobbying blitz to push for a $40-per-ton national carbon tax, escalating by 5% per year. The CLC calls this “the most cost-effective, environmentally ambitious and politically viable climate solution.”

A $40 carbon tax would immediately raise the price of oil by $17, or to about 133% of today’s prices. We’re told not to fret the price increase because the government will remit the tax back to taxpayers as a “carbon dividend.” Most consumers will get back more money via the dividend than they paid in the tax, says the CLC.

Let’s breakdown this hucksterism.

First, a carbon tax is no sort of ‘climate solution.’ Manmade emissions of greenhouse gases in 2019 were 55.3 billion tons of carbon dioxide-equivalents and increasing with no end in sight, according to the United Nations. The U.S. share was 7.2 billion tons  13% and shrinking as the rest of the world increases emissions.

Imagine the U.S. magically went dark and emitted no more carbon dioxide (CO2) or other greenhouse gases evermore. The rest of the world, which shows no signs of emitting less, would still emit at least 48 BILLION tons annually, which is 13 billion tons greater than the Kyoto Protocol’s goal of stabilizing emissions at 35 billion tons.

Even if the U.S. never emitted again, the difference in atmospheric CO2 concentration would be about two percent (2%) by the year 2100. No matter your view of climate science, that slight difference in CO2 would make no discernible difference to global temperature.

So simple math shows a CO2 tax would accomplish nothing. Even if a CO2 tax only cost you a nickel, you’d still be ripped off.

Next, although taxes tend to reduce use of the thing being taxed, this isn’t meaningfully true with oil. During the mid-2000s when oil rose to $140 per barrel, US oil consumption dipped a mere five percent (i.e., 20 million vs. 19 million barrels per day). Under the CLC’s plan, it would take 35 years to get the current price of oil up to that $140 level  which barely reduced oil consumption in the first place. Absent sensible alternatives, Americans would likely cling to gasoline even as they were ripped off by the carbon tax.

Now for the really cynical part of the CLC’s carbon tax  the ‘dividend.’

The CLC’s plan calls for a family of four to receive a $2,000 annual dividend check from the government in the first year, an amount that would grow as the tax increases. But is anyone paying attention to the math?
In 2019, US energy-related emissions were 5.1 billion tons. At $40 per ton, those emissions would raise $204 billion in taxes. Divide that $204 billion by 330 million Americans and you get a carbon tax costing each American $618  or $2,472 per family of four. But the carbon dividend is only worth $2,000 for a family of four, leaving them to pointlessly pay $472 more in energy costs every year.

The CLC’s device around this is to limit the dividend so that 70 percent of households would receive more in dividends than paid in carbon tax. So the CLC’s tax just amounts to a vote-buying, Marxist income redistribution scheme via climate.

Who exactly is the CLC anyway? It’s comprised of multinational corporate rentseekers and greenwashers, ivory tower economists, has-been politicians and left-wing environment groups.

The carbon tax is not about the climate so much as it is about CLC members’ various economic, political and personal agendas. Here are some of them.

Big Oil members (ExxonMobil, Shell, and BP) want to regain control over the price of oil lost due to the fracking revolution. Nuclear utility Exelon and First Solar hope to advance their interests by making fossil fuels more expensive. Goldman Sachs has investments in all sorts of green technologies. Two members are former Energy secretaries from the Obama ‘war on coal’ years. Former UN climate chief Christina Figueres is a leftist looking to end capitalism, as are the green groups like the World Wildlife Fund and the World Resources Institute.

The last time a such a diverse cabal of powerbrokers united on climate was to push cap-and-trade  a different kind of carbon tax  during the late 2000s. Cap-and-tax failed. Now the CLC has resurrected it. Meet the new fraud. Same as the old fraud.

Steve Milloy publishes JunkScience.com, served on the Trump EPA transition team and is the author of “Scare Pollution: Why and How to Fix the EPA” (Bench Press, 2016).

March 12, 2020 1:56 pm

Arranging chairs on the titanic comes to mind.

Keith Peregrine
March 12, 2020 4:48 pm

Suggestion to OR Gov.: Shut down high tech companies one week every two.

William Everett
March 17, 2020 4:14 pm

According to the human induced CO2 mapping by Finnish scientists using data from the CO2 measuring satellite, Oregon does not make a significant contribution to atmospheric CO2 levels.

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