Guest essay by Eric Worrall
Green fantasies from Time’s Justin Worland.
How Europe’s Border Carbon Tax Plan Could Force the U.S. To Act on Climate Change
BY JUSTIN WORLAND MARCH 4, 2020
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On Wednesday, European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen presented the European Climate Law, which would bind the bloc to eliminate its climate footprint by 2050 and officially launched the policymaking process to enact a new tax on products from countries that aren’t working to reduce their emissions. Such a rule could leave U.S. companies at a serious—and costly—disadvantage as they compete for business in the EU.
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The EU’s plan is a significant escalation, but it’s not a complete surprise. The intellectual foundations behind policy, which the EU has dubbed a border carbon tax, have been discussed in policy circles for years. As the EU has doubled down on policies to reduce emissions, and the U.S. and others have lagged, pressure mounted on the bloc to take more sweeping action. “It’s pointless to reduce carbon emissions inside Europe, to then import them from outside,” Bruno Le Maire, the French finance minister, told reporters at the World Economic Forum meeting in Davos in January.
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Several groups in Washington are pushing for the U.S. to get ahead of the Europeans’ plan by implementing its own carbon tax, along with an adjustment at borders. Such a move would make U.S. businesses more competitive on the global stage as countries increasingly demand more energy-efficient products, advocates say. Supporters of such an approach include a conservative group, the Climate Leadership Council (CLC), which is backed by some of America’s biggest companies, green groups, economists and Republican elder statesmen. “This really creates an incentive for other countries to say, ‘yeah, I want to get inside that club,’” says former Federal Reserve Chair Janet Yellen, who supports the CLC.
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Read more: https://time.com/5793918/european-union-border-carbon-tax/
The problem with Justin’s theory is the EU has no backbone when it comes to trade disputes. When President Obama rejected the EU’s last attempt to impose carbon taxes on US businesses, The EU’s response was to express their disappointment.
Brexit has left the EU desperately short of cash, but I doubt President Trump will let the EU fill their budget shortfall by slamming US businesses with a new carbon tax.
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Will the EU continue to buy goods from China and India?
….and gas from Russia.
The actual issue, does the USA need any products from the EU?
I can live without all but olives.
Surely with range of climates available in the USA some where could be found to grow olives.
The grow olives in California over an area of more than 6 million acres.
But the USA IS acting on Climate Change, We promise to do Everything China is doing.
Yes, that’s the problem, Reginald, Bryan, and goldminor, Kalifornia is part of the EU. Stupid, dysfunctional, and proud of it. Anthony and Willis together can’t straighten them out.
EU can’t even enforce it’s own borders.
I’ve heard (from native Italians) that the olive groves in Kali are torn down and replaced every 15 years or so. The trees never get too mature, but they bear more fruit. The oil is different and IMHO not as good as the better European ones.
Ron Long
As a citizen in EU I can tell you that you are absolutely 100% right. I´m not proud of it but maybe I´m the only one. And I live in the happiest country in EU, where is the purest air on this planet.
They grow olives up here in the foothills of Northern California.
Most olives in France come from Spain or Italy, or even further afield. An olive firm near here produced “french” olive preparations. I looked at their container labels one : they came for Egypt !
The final product if “french” because it is prepared here. The law just requires the final step in production to be done locally. Plenty of legal cons like that. Shoes made in Asia and they punch the lace holes in EU to make them legally “EU produce”.
BMW engines are made in China ! Look it up.
John,
In my case without all but Bordeaux Red wines.
I guess I will just have to dig further into my cellar.
Cheers.
Australia makes red wines that rival anything you can get from France. 😀
The reason the international court banned countries from using France place names for their wines was Australia was winning gold medals against French wines IN FRANCE!
Trade up and buy Aussie!
” … Australia makes red wines that rival anything you can get from France. … ”
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In my experience equivalently priced European wines are almost always superior to Australian wines, but even the best reds and whites taste like cheap plonk compared to a half decent chilled* rosé — which is a much more enjoyable wine and very under rated.
* Snobby euro culture of not chilling a wine even when in the tropics is nuts, it’s often 20 C hotter than central Europe here so you do not drink a good wine at room temperature because our room temperatures can make a good wine taste like goon-bag plonk.
The other reason is because it’s called fraud.
Bordeaux is not the best wine region in France, though for some reason it seems to be one of the names that sticks in English speaking minds.
I avoid buying Bordeaux now since it is all traded, mixed and blended with other stuff. It is very hard to find a wine that is produced and bottled by the vineyard that grew the fruit these days.
Many better regions in France.
“MarkMcD March 5, 2020 at 4:19 pm
Australia makes red wines that rival anything you can get from France. ”
Absolutely correct. Some vines are over 200 years old. Aus for reds, NZ for whites IMO.
I’m no wine drinker myself, enough of them give me a headache after just a few sips that I just say “NO” to wine. But I’ve been told that Oregon wines compete quite well on the international stage. Personally I’ll stick to our excellent craft brews instead.
Herbert, did you know that AOC ( provenance ) rules for the Bordeaux appelation only require a minimum of 30% of Bordeaux grapes. Most of the grapes in Bordeaux wines are shipped up as juice in tankers from other regions , typical southern France, Aude. 😉
Greg,
There are 60 AOCs in Bordeaux.
There are 9 million bottles of Bordeaux produced annually, at thousands of vineyards.
Any table wine of rough, vapid nature (like Australia’s famous ‘Kangarouge’ from the 1960s) gets qualified as red Bordeaux, “Grand vin de Bordeaux”.
But they are not putting only 30% of Bordeaux grapes into Chateau Latour or First through Fifth Growths.
Now let’s look at the good stuff, the legendary chateaus of the Left Bank and Right Bank.
Bordeaux is unquestionably the largest and most important fine wine region of the world.
Ask the Chinese who are trying to buy into the great vineyards, but are being largely rebuffed.
France is the cradle of fine wine and virtually every major grape variety and style of wine can be traced back to France.
In Bordeaux it is Cabernet Sauvignon and Merlot.
If you want to believe that New World Wines from California and Australia are better than Bordeaux (or Burgundy) I can’t stop you but it isn’t true in the upper realms of wines.
For centuries Bordeaux has dominated the market with a long proven record of ageing in the bottle that nowhere else can match.
That does not mean that Penfolds Bin 60A or Bin 707 or Napa’s Chateau Montelena can’t top Chateau Lafitte or Margaux in a particular vintage,(see the Judgement of Paris 1976 as featured in the movie ‘Bottle Shock’) but across the board in the top stuff, it’s no contest, as a check on the prices of the most expensive Australian reds versus the top Bordeaux reds at wine-searcher.com readily reveals.
Having said all that, the average Australian red wine is of better quality than the average French red wine.
There is a reason why Jacob’s Creek Shiraz became the top selling red wine in Britain but that is another story.
Agreed, Herbert.
I would add the caveat that today’s world of inexpensive wines are far superior to the average inexpensive wines prior to the 1980s. Especially the inexpensive french wines prior to the 1980s; which most were at the time.
Spain and Italy scuppered their wine reputations of the 20th Century by dubious additions; not by inferior flavor/taste. I still shy away from Spanish and Italian wines; but entirely from what is now ancient history, now their wines of today.
Chile, Australia, New Zealand; heck, even Oregon, Washington, New York and Virginia wines are at least decent.
I’ve loved some of Oregon’s Pinot Noir and Australia’s Shiraz; both of which age superbly; over a few years if not for decades.
I’d love to try some Shiraz aged over decades. Apologies, my bottles keep getting opened well before a decade.
Try it some time! Put away decent red wines and try them at least several years later.
Will they measure up to a Grand Cru?
I don’t know and I am unlikely to ever get the chance to taste well aged Grand Cru or well aged red wines from elsewhere.
Back in the late 1970s, my Brother joined America’s submarine service, serving on one of America’s snoopers.
What I did not know is that before he reported for duty, he had stored a box of cheap wines. Cheap wines being all that he could afford at the time.
Six years later, shortly after his discharge, I got a call from my sister. That’s when I learned he stored wines at her house.
Anyway, my sister wanted to know what to do with a passed-out drunk ex-sailor?
I told her to drag him into the bathroom, preferably the shower.
After a little more haranguing from my sister, I agreed to come over and check on him.
Which ended up as my agreeing to remove my noxious drunk Brother and taking him and his evil box of wine home with me.
Except, for a couple of the cheapest wines, i.e. Boone’s Farm, all of the wines had improved considerably. I helped drink some of his wines after he recovered from his hangover.
He claimed that the wines were so much better that he couldn’t resist opening and trying another bottle.
@ATheoK
I spent the entire month of October 2019 in Northern Italy and visited some very interesting vineyards. One of these was the Giuseppe Quintarelli winery in Valpolicella (Verona). Quintarelli is known as the God of Italian wine, he revitalized the industry in the late 80’s. He idea was to produce a wine which was drinkable right out of the bottle because it was barrel aged for several years prior to bottling. His wines will also age for another 20 or 30 years in the bottle. Definitely worth visiting for a taste, an education into the production process and also meeting the family, wonderful caring people.
One the few places which I do avoid is anything from Argentina. Too acidic…
Well it’s a good thing that France produces over priced and overrated red wines. If only there were places to get superior reds for a cheaper price, like Oregon, Chile, Texas, etc. Now wines from northern Italia, Porto, and Espana, those wines are a bargaining chip.
But the EU might not want to push it on tariffs when it comes to trade with the USA on anything, but especially on wines since the wine industry from the new world, Australia, and China is rapidly growing. A tariff on overrated wines could push even more of the market share to these regions.
The USA is NOT any part of the EU! Therefore, they can’t “FORCE’ us to do anything! That’s just wishful thinking!
Agreed, this move is totally delusional. The EU is the only part of the world intent on economic self immolation based on solving a problem which does not even exist.
There is zero chance they will be able to con, trick or harass other major blocks into going along the same stupid path.
Yeah , increasing your prices with pointless taxes always makes you “more competitive”, that works !
What exactly does the EU produce WHICH the USA purchases from them that can’t be produced locally and create needed Jobs in the US?
Even snooty hypocrites and eco-fascists are produces locally
They can “force” you. Which is why only US meat that complies with EU regulations, can be imported into the EU.
Your farmers want to access the EU market, they’re “forced” to comply with EU regulations.
I think Trump and the EU are getting ready to enter into trade negotiations soon. I imagine the EU’s ridiculous carbon dioxide tax will be one of the issues discussed.
And, no doubt, EU tariffs will be in the discussion. Trump ideally wants no tariffs between nations, so that’s where he will be coming from.
The US currently has the advantage since its economy is booming and will continue to do so because energy prices are low and will continue to be low and that is a perfect environment for some business who wants to do business with the United States but is prevented from doing so by local tariff restrictions. The businessperson’s solution: Move part or all of your business to the United States as long as the tariffs are on.
Similar extorsion “laws” that didn’t work, ….. that were enacted by towns and counties in the late 1800’s that attempted to collect a “head tax’ on the beef cattle herds that were being driven north from Texas to the railheads in Kansas.
The Trail Boss would just stampede the herd right thru the middle of the town.
You are paying attention to this nonsense.
Globalism is dead under the Trump administration.
Thank heavens!
So, olives were top of mind (wife and I have been enjoying Greek recipes recently), yet German jet engines as well as other amazing EU components are part of the mix – conversation.
Morons from Ivylag schools caused the “Rust Belt”. Yet, we don’t build complexes in 14 days.
Argentina has over 20 million olive trees…you’re safe John
California grows wonderful olives.
The green variety or the black variety?
Californian olives are bland and flavourless compared with Greek Kalamata olives.
Who eats olives? They suck, no matter where they come from
And most people do not like wine, no matter which vineyard produces it.
its how theyre processed black olives are often treated with iron to make them black apparently
you know, the tatseless dry round things on pizzas and superdark in bottles n canned
you could DIY you know its not hard , any ripened olive will process well as “kalamata”style
it might take a few hr sitting round to slash and then a week or so changing brine but you get a huge amount of olives as a result to enjoy all yr.
So you’re saying that black olives matter?
Mike McMillan wins the “Best post of the week” prize. 😊
Try the italian ‘taggiasca’ olives from northern Italy – they’re the best
My take from reading the extracts is that the EU intend to add ‘tax’ (for want of a better word) on any US party importing goods into and/or bidding for contracts within the EU.
Exactly how that is going to work in real terms I have no idea. Considering this is Time Magazine the answer may involve either unicorns or Greta.
You should embrace the healing power of “riding”.
Counter taxes. Ie, tariffs.
It’s a tariff and we will respond with some reciprocal tariff that is so painful they water it down and it goes away quietly.
It’s just a stupid political game and the 5th graders writing for Time are just embarrassing themselves.
It won’t work they will start a tit for tat trade war they already got hurt in the US/China trade war and had to grovel to trump to exempt them from some tarrif he imposed.
It is a story pedelled by some 3rd rate hack journalist showing how stupid they really are.
Let’s see what happens when they start taxing the gas and oil they’re importing from Russia
NZ exports olive oil and it is some of the best, not cheap though.
San Luis Obispo County California, including my backyard has lots of olives. If EU doesn’t give up on wind and solar pretty soon they won’t have the money to buy anything from anybody.
” If EU doesn’t give up on wind and solar pretty soon they won’t have the money to buy anything from anybody.”
Isn’t that the truth!!!
Super effort that John – they’ve all gone off on an olive tangent. As good a tangent as any.
America doesn’t need the UN the EU, NATO or any other acronyms. All those crony committees are as useless, expensive and wasteful as an Elvis entourage. They’ll drag you down, wear you out and then wash their hands of you when you’re broke.
Australia does good olives and oil Im sure we can work it out and manage to stick it right up the EU
and doesnt america have olive groves? if not, now the time to get some planted
John McClure:
I can live without all but olives.
I agree John, but someplace will just HAVE TO fill the gap. Oh, the salty, vinegary goodness…..
There seems to be a group of commentors that can’t live without European olives? I have to admit to not being fussed either way, an olive is an olive is an olive as far as I am concerned. However,m have you tried pickled garlic? Now there is a delicacy worth fighting for. If anyone has not tried pickled garlic you just don’t know what you have been missing.
Rod, yes indeedy! And pickled okra too, when I can find it.
We just realised to be short of medicine, China produces much cheaper than f. e. Germany, burt, helas, China has just other problems as to produce medicine or we stoped imports from China because of Corona.
Say again?j
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Because of US switching to Natural Gas for much of our energy, we are reducing CO2 emissions faster than most of the EU. We technically could tax them!
I cannot wait to see the tariffs that can be placed on the EU that completely cancel their stupid tax.
Has Hull got a Big and deep enough Port? That’s where I recommend that they ( from the EU ) all Go to!
Time Magazine has gone after Nixon, Agnew, Reagan, Bush1, Bush2 and Trump. I’m not quite sure why they are still around (the last printed magazine was like 16 pages). They certainly aren’t relevant.
The US is still the 500 lb gorilla, although Bernie is trying hard to kill it. Maybe the US can put a carbon tax on every Airbus flying into, out of and over the US. Might see a switch to Boeings on those routes pretty quickly.
Yip, are they any better than the Spiegel ? – a German fake news mouthpiece
Nothing of the sort will happen. The EU is a Paper Tiger which has recently lost a large limb in a Brexit encounter. Muslim refugee hordes are biting its flanks and infecting its interior organs. The EU is desperately trying to suppress other members from exiting after Brexit. The EU is battling a growing Covid-19 epidemic. The EU has little will left for a trade battle with the USA. Justin’s theory is just self-justification and pipe-dreams. the EU has no backbone when it comes to new trade disputes.
Even if the EU was to impose massive sanctions on US products, so what?
They will lose more than the US does when the US locks out their goods in retalition.
On the other hand, thanks to carbon taxes and their import taxes, any goods coming out of the EU will end up being so expensive that the US won’t need retaliatory sanctions. They will have already priced themselves out of all markets.
The Time Magazine is following a failed campaign to stop Brexit by Le Monde and Frankfurter Allgemeine. Pile up all bad things that COULD (a key word here) happen! The EU (GDP $16 trillion, without the UK) did not frighten the UK (GDP $2.7 trillion). Why should it frighten the USA (GDP $21 trillion)?
Absolute zero carbon dioxide emissions = GDP (0)
GDP (0) = Mass unemployment and riots in the street.. .. and that is going to happen in a more few countries before this mess ends.
It is absolutely impossible to get to absolute zero CO2 emissions for basic engineering reasons.
The EU and UN bureaucracy is just trying to get more money for bureaucrats.
“It is absolutely impossible to get to absolute zero CO2 emissions for basic engineering reasons.”
…… not least of which would be the human lung. There is a fix for that though if the planetsavers really want to do the ultimate virtue-signal.
The idea of “zero carbon” means doing shit like CCS and wasting half of your energy resources: that’s the “sustainable” future. Then you pay others to “not emit” on your behalf and waste the little money you had left after taxing yourself out of business.
I have NO idea where the EU thinks it is going with this.
Good luck with that. Somebody hasn’t been paying attention. If PDJT wins reelection, their “adjustments” will absolutely get “readjusted” at the US border.
Here’s a thought. The EU should not consider a tax on US good until the EU has matched the US emission reductions – and I don’t mean develop plans for such reductions – we’ve seen those plans made and ignored, but no consideration of a tax until there are actual reductions. I can’t imagine that will happen for a dozen years or more.
The US has already reduced emissions far more than Europe ever hopes to. Sorry!
“Here’s a thought. The EU should not consider a tax on US goods until the EU has matched the US emission reductions”
Excellent idea.
Where does the EU come off demanding penalties when they are not even doing as good a job as the U.S. does when it comes to CO2 reduction? The EU ought to take a few lessons from Trump on how to handle the situation. Trump is reducing CO2 while the US economy is booming at the same time, and meanwhile the EU is not reducing their CO2 and their economies are tanking. EU politicians need to wake up out of their delusions.
Yup. The EU bans fracking which has helped the US reduce CO2 significantly while importing Russian gas.
Hear, hear. The US is the farthest along in reducing per capita CO2 emissions. So if they plan to tax accordingly, they would have to pay us the tax for, I’m guessing 15-20 years before things would even up.
Never happens.
….LOL, what is left of the EU countries would be decimated in a trade war with President Trump and the soaring U.S. economy, forcing more “Brexits” until the Fascist EU is FINALLY put into its well deserved grave !
MAGA
did you say…….Justin Wonderland??? I Am Hard of Hearing! regards, Trevor, from Trevor Collins, (NZ)……
That’s hilarious, since our carbon footprint is shrinking, while theirs is not. “You don’t have laws that say the same stupid things as ours” is hardly a good case.
“‘You don’t have laws that say the same stupid things as ours’ is hardly a good case.”
They think it is, which tells you all you need to know about the arrogant jack@sses.
This is the sole reason the EU exists- to make more and more laws and rules which is why the left loves it and why we in the UK are better off out of it. It is a useless, pointless waste of resources- just another layer of self serving, pious bureaucrats on top of the ones individual countries already have!
Is not the USA one of the few countries where carbon dioxide emissions are ACTUALLY decreasing?
Maybe not decreasing fast enough for the green zealots…..
This is due to the natural gas (fracking) replacement of coal which has more CO2 output per amount of electricity produced.
And as mentioned above, will the EU take a tax increase on imports form the real CO2 increasers, China and India?
don’t point out the facts. it makes the greens angry. US reduced GHE (not that anyone should give a rats ass about CO2) but we should look to reduce the use of natural resources. The EU is a sham organization, hence BREXIT. The UK also did a great job of reducing GHE but, they destroyed large forest and now have very expensive electricity.
US is going to do what the US wants to do, whenever, where ever. No apologies needed. The US saved the world 3 times from tyranny and evil 3 times in the last century. We created a weapon that could have been used to conquer anyone we wanted. but we didn’t , we actually went and helped rebuild those nations that were crippled by the wars. inlcuding Japan and Germany. The EU can F**K off.
Well said… Too bad they don’t teach that history in schools anymore !
To the left, saying the right things has always been more important than doing the right things.
Just look at the behavior of those the left idolizes.
It would be good to see the EU make this official policy in ordering the USA to start a carbon tax, or impose a carbon tax on import trade, before the election in Nov later this year. That way, voters could see what alternatives in their voting choices would mean to their own pocket book, in addition to the appearance that the EU has control of internal USA affairs. This would probably add another 1-2 Million voters to the Trump column as well as for the seats and Governors up for re-election in the Senate and the House. All this nonsense has to be soundly rejected, and the best way to do that is to return the Republicans to full majority power in all branches of Gov’t so that there is no more stalling and hoaxed stumbling blocks thrown into the path of the administration. Even moderate Democrats are getting sick and tired of these goons in the Democrat party blocking everything from infrastructure spending to not cooperating on a coordinated response to the C-19 issues. Time to throw the Democrat bums out on their ear. Especially the rabid foaming at the mouth ones, like AOC and her ‘progressive’ ilk.
They can *try* to force the U.S. all they want…fact is we can counter using tariffs. We need more manufacturing jobs in the U.S. anyway, so it’s a win-win for us over enough time (there is always pain in the adjustment). We can also save a lot of money in the defense budget as we no longer need to be protecting Germany nor protecting the world’s access to oil in the Arabian Sea – they can buy our oil.
You cannot have free-trade with countries that do not reciprocate – it’s why the world feels free to take advantage of the U.S. in their working around trade agreements. If the EU wants a trade war, bring it on. It would be a tremendous opportunity to grow the economies of South America, which is far better for the U.S. then growing the economies in the EU.
A carbon tax is just another way to tax consumers, which is mostly the middle class. It is a TERRIBLE idea. This is how we destroy a good economy, not grow one.
Won’t need any counter tariffs. Those carbon taxes are going to make their products so expensive that nobody will be able to afford them anyway.
That is what I was thinking. US manufacturing would get very healthy once again. I like the plan to do increased business with India vs China.
Nah you do what trump did with China double whatever they put on and target industries that really matter. Why play with gloves off slap the stupidity right out of them. If they want to lock themselves out of the biggest consumer market in the world go right ahead.
Sounds like the EU has let Climate Derangement Syndrome commandeer their mental faculties!
Perhaps EU stands for Europe Unhinged!
Great Britain is already seeing a resurgence in their economy and the stronger they get, the more the EU will hemorrhage members!
Some unions should never have happened!
“Sounds like the EU has let Climate Derangement Syndrome commandeer their mental faculties!”
Definitely.
Just think of all the damage this CAGW lie has caused around the world. It’s an Epic lie which has caused millions of people to lose their senses, especially politicians.
They are deluded to the point of destroying their own homes with their actions to curb CO2.
The world does want more efficient products.
Why?
They save money.
However, paying thousands more, for a product that only saves a dollar or two a year is not a good deal, as everyone who isn’t a leftist is able to figure out.
I worked out a long time ago that you need to buy the equipment with the lowest ‘star’ rating. That’s are the only ones that actually work properly.
Is that anything like avoiding any movie that wins an Oscar?
It’s like those guys in Switzerland insulating their houses for a hundred thousand bucks to save maybe one thousand bucks a year. No thanks.
“The EU’s plan is a significant escalation, but it’s not a complete surprise. The intellectual foundations behind policy, which the EU has dubbed a border carbon tax, have been discussed in policy circles for years.”
So, a bunch of egregious morons have a policy with “intellectual foundations”.
Who knew?
These clowns couldn’t fart and chew gum at the same time.
“The EU Could Force the USA to Act on Climate Change”
The EU can go pound salt up its ass.
“Europe” is always good for a laugh 😀
I suggest a raw peeled chili pepper up its arse.
Before pounding the salt.
Carolina Reaper ?
😉 😉
No, colonal reaper.
The EU flag minus GB.
The yellow sphincter is incomplete.
Worrying times in their underwear department!!
It can’t pucker any more.
I STILL think that off color star should be replaced with a bit of the Union Jack. The symbolism is useful.
This much is true:
They know it, they say it, but they will ignore it and continue on anyway. Classic!
The USA is NOT any part of the EU! Therefore, they can’t “FORCE’ us to do anything! That’s just wishful thinking!
Wishful Thiniking
Wishful Thinkings
Probs to embed a video here, maybe better as link now.
Tried as in “Test” proposed….
Just reflect whatever tariff theEU imposes back on EU countries
The Euro is “fiat money”, no one knows it’s real worth.
And the printing presses keep rolling new bills into an artificially evaluated economy.
Which is why EU desperately seeks new free money and robs it’s subjects each and every way.
It is very clear from all the climatology energy diagrams showing back radiation that climatologists (and thus all the computer models) assume that the surface is warmer than the direct solar radiation could make it because of the back radiation supposedly causing about twice as much heat into the surface (324W/m^2) as the solar radiation (168W/m^2) supplies.
You all need to face the FACT that climatologists QUANTIFY the surface temperature by adding together the fluxes from the Sun and the atmosphere, then deducting the cooling flux by evaporation and conduction-cum-convection out of the surface, and then using the net total of about 390W/m^2 in Stefan Boltzmann calculations that then give 288K for a uniform flux day and night all over the globe (LOL). The fact that it is variable would give a mean temperature at least 10 degrees cooler – like about 5C.
This is totally wrong. Nothing in established physics says you can add fluxes like that and get correct results in Stefan-Boltzmann calculations. Nothing in established physics says the solar radiation can make the surface hotter than the black body temperature for the mean flux. There is no experiment that confirms radiation can be added this way – nothing anywhere! A simple experiment comparing the warming effect of a single artificial source of radiation and the warming by multiple such sources PROVES that this addition of radiative fluxes does NOT give correct results in Stefan-Boltzmann calculations, yet the WHOLE radiative forcing climate change conjecture is BASED on that FALSE assumption.
And THAT is the reason Roy Spencer’s graphs show no warming since the peak in the 60-year cycle back in 1998 and will not show future warming until after 2028. There may be more then, but the long term cycle of about 1,000 years should turn to cooling perhaps before any more than another half degree of warming after 2028. Cosmic rays vary for several reasons and they are now shown to affect the amount of cloud cover, and thus cause natural climate cycles.
The EU can’t even get its’ members to reduce their CO2 to agreed levels and see what happened in France when they tried to initiate a so called ‘carbon tax’. This is a joke without a punch line. The cabal (UN) that made up the whole CO2 scare didn’t count on people acting rationally.
Von der Leyen sees ‘momentum’ for improving EU-US relations
European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said on Thursday (5 March) “there might be momentum” for improving the EU’s relationship with the US, but it remained unclear when she will present a trade offer to US President Donald Trump to avoid further tariffs.
https://www.euractiv.com/section/economy-jobs/news/von-der-leyen-sees-momentum-for-improving-eu-us-relations/
“In 2019, the United States was the largest partner for EU exports of goods (27 %) and the second largest partner for EU imports of goods (12 %).
Among EU Member States, Germany was both the largest importer of goods from and the largest exporter of goods to the United States.”
And Germany will be the hardest hit. Cop that Merkel. 😀
Any such action will harm the EU more than the USA. And remember, the US now has a free UK to sell to.
Sounds like they want to pick a fight. I’m down.
…….. wonders if TIME is actually a paper thing these days or has it been sold off as plaything for some foreign oligarch?
– can’t even be bothered to look – like The Independent “newspaper” in the UK – pointless + irrelevant.