Saturday Silliness – The Davos Flame War

The word over at the Grauniad is:

Greta Thunberg: Davos leaders ignored climate activists’ demands

Activist [Greta Thunberg] says calls to break from fossil fuels have been ignored at World Economic Forum

Speaking on the final day of the World Economic Forum, the 17-year old climate campaigner said leaders were not reacting to the crisis, and were not being held accountable for their inaction.

“Before we came here we had a few demands for this WEF and of course those demands have been completely ignored, but we expected nothing less,” said Thunberg, speaking before marching through Davos with fellow climate activists.

“As long as the science is ignored, and the facts aren’t taken into account, and the situation is not treated as a crisis, then world and business leaders can of course continue to ignore the situation,” she said.

Well gosh, “…the situation is not treated as a crisis”, ya think maybe sensible people might ignore that?

Meanwhile, Josh is on the case:

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Timo Soren
January 25, 2020 2:23 pm

I actually feel very bad for Greta. At 16 some of us MAY have been mature, but a large majority of 16 yr olds, are impressionable, reactive, full of energy and immature.

Her parents are setting her up for a serious mental health issue.

Zig Zag Wanderer
January 25, 2020 2:25 pm

As long as the science is ignored, and the facts aren’t taken into account, and the situation is not treated as a crisis

Fixed it for ya

January 25, 2020 2:28 pm

Typo : “sesnible” should be “sensible”.

PS I like the picture of the car with here eyes being the “left turn” signals!

Coeur de Lion
January 25, 2020 2:39 pm

I thought Trump’s speech, even if written by someone else and teleprompted, was a phenomenon of optimism well delivered and persuasive. Left whinging Greta at the starting post.

January 25, 2020 2:39 pm

What she hasn’t figured out yet (although her handlers know this) is that she’s telling people, who have no capabilities or intentions of taking carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere, how horrible they are. She’s just a useful idiot’s useful idiot. Or is that a useful idiot’s useful idiot’s useful idiot. I can’t keep up.

January 25, 2020 2:43 pm

Dear Greta,
You dropped out of school to lecture us about things you haven’t studied such as science, economics, nutrition, etc.
All the while traveling the globe on someone else’s dime.
Why shouldn’t you be ignored?
God Bless and “How dare you!”,
Gunga Din

Sunny
January 25, 2020 2:53 pm

Demands 😐

This is what happens when the media hypes somebody up, they believe they are the saviour, even though greta has shown no proven science, no facts, in fact, she has spoken no science at all, all its been is repetitive screaming and evil looks…

Mr.
January 25, 2020 3:05 pm

IMO the most significant observation that Greta has exposed is the astonishing absence of self esteem of the “leaders” of the UN, IPCC, EU, etc etc.

Viz – a know-nothing kid stands up in front of them all, in essence tells them to their faces that they’re all losers, full of sh1t, and generally a waste of space.
And the “leaders” all then stand up and applaud her, totally agreeing with her.
Not one of them has the esteem to defend/justify their efforts & results to date.
In fact, they fall over themselves to invite her to future gatherings.

I dunno, maybe one has to be a card-carrying masochist to become a “leader” these days?
Or flash a certificate that says you’re a eunuch.

Jerry Mead
January 25, 2020 3:14 pm

Now you listen ‘ere.

She’s not the Messiah, she’s a very naughty girl!

RIP TJ

John F. Hultquist
January 25, 2020 3:14 pm

The “Greta Thing” has had its 15 minutes.
Let’s move on.

SZ939
January 25, 2020 3:23 pm

George Soros likes to find impressionable skulls full of mush and parade them around with jingoistic enthusiasm. Unfortunately, Greta is also suffering from Asberger’s Syndrome which means she has the following issues:

1. Having difficulty with social interaction
2. Engaging in repetitive behavior
3. Standing firm on what they think
4. Focusing on rules and routines

Her form of Autism has obviously manifested itself, as indicated above, to be used and exploited by those who should be nurturing instead of abusing. Greta clearly has absolutely no idea what she blathers incessantly about. She is a useful tool to the Leftist Cause of Controlling the Masses who parade this poor girl around as an idiot savant for the Hoax of GloBull Climate Alarmism. And she does this very well as an overly programmed little puppet! She can memorize her lines without comprehending them, she can repeat them on cue like a good parrot, and as long as she is removed before questions are asked, nobody can tell that she is an empty shell of a person. Ideally, Greta should be removed from her abusive parents and placed in a proper setting where she can be treated for her Mental Condition. She has been removed from her Country’s Education System and will eventually end up in some Home for Mentally Disturbed Patients. But not before making Millions for her handlers, which unfortunately includes her abusive parents!

January 25, 2020 3:24 pm

Greta : “Before we came here we had a few demands for this WTF” (maybe a typo here)

Tom Abbott
January 25, 2020 4:03 pm

I’m afraid Greta is going to be in for a lot of disappointments in the future in her efforts to get fossil fuels eliminated. It’s an impossible task, Greta. Even if you talked world and economic leaders into it (that won’t happen either), the people of the world are not going to go along. Not based on a bunch of unsubstantiated scaremongering, that’s for sure.

Did Jane Fonda get arrested yesterday for protesting CAGW? I didn’t see anything about it. Maybe Greta and Jane can get together.

saveenergy
January 25, 2020 4:06 pm

Love the car !!!
ROTFLMAO

Wim Röst
January 25, 2020 4:06 pm

Important news from Davos by CNN Business: “Mnuchin and Lagarde clashed in Davos over the financial risk posed by the climate crises.”

This is the title of a 2 min. video on https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/24/business/davos-2020-climate/index.html

Lagarde, referring to the economic literature: “out of 77.000 articles published, 60 [thousand] deal with environmental sustainability”. And: “how do you utterly account so that risk is ‘anticipated’, ‘measured’ – ‘hopefully mitigated’ and …. we are in a better shape”.

CNN: “Mnuchin responded “Christine, I think you can have a lot of people look at this and model it,” he said. “I just don’t want to kid ourselves. I think there’s no way we can possibly model what these risks are over the next 30 years with a level of certainty.” “

WR: Important is that in public (!) there is a clash between one group of people that is fearful but don’t know about Climate except for some ‘majority opinions’ and another group of people that are better informed and are calculating the real risks and the dangers of an extremely costly path without any sure outcome or calculable economic profit – if compared with the path of cheap and reliable energy.

More positive news comes from Angela Merkel in Davos who according to Reuters proposes a dialogue between sceptics and believers: “Merkel urges dialogue between sceptics and believers to tackle climate change”.

WR: The ‘Open Debate’ she is inviting to will be an important step forward. Late, but ‘better late than never’.

Source: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-davos-meeting-merkel/merkel-urges-dialogue-between-skeptics-and-believers-to-tackle-climate-change-idUSKBN1ZM1ZY?utm_source=CCNet+Newsletter&utm_campaign=5b6e1a9288-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2020_01_24_02_51&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_fe4b2f45ef-5b6e1a9288-36449997&mc_cid=5b6e1a9288&mc_eid=2bffa9916e

Paul
January 25, 2020 4:07 pm

Jesus was 30 years old before He started His mission to save the world. I would say she is slightly over ambitious.

Sara
January 25, 2020 4:18 pm

I think it’s a pathetic and scurrilous manifestation of greed and selfishness on the part of the parents of this 17YO girl to have let this nonsense go this far. I’ve seen examples of bad parenting, but they are the worst. She’s coming to the end of the trail of popularity that got her the attention she thought she wanted and when it’s gone, she will NOT matter to anyone any more. It shows in that taillight art on the yellow car and in the fact that people are starting to mock her and turn her into a cartoon.

Whoever said it really wont end until she’s no longer a ‘phenom’ is right: she’ll be useless and her parents will have scammed a hoard of cash out of what she has been doing, and she’ll get no benefit from it. Absolutely disgusting.

David Wojick
January 25, 2020 4:30 pm

It is important to understand how she reasons, we’ll sort of. See my new https://www.cfact.org/2020/01/25/the-thunberg-fallacies/.

January 25, 2020 4:39 pm

All Trump needs to say is, “Greta, despite what your parents claim, socialism is not a science.”

Meglort
January 25, 2020 5:35 pm

We have a couple of climate catastrophists (and both hard left leaning) as a relatives, sadly.
They have taken inspiration from Turdberg that utter ignorance should not stop you being a CC expert.

Neither was aware of or understood how heat is actually “stored” in molecules in the atmosphere.
Neither understood that ppm referred to “parts per million” and that one ppm was 1/10000th of 1%.
Neither was able to deduce therefore that the other 99.96% of the atmosphere was not comprised of CO2.
Neither knew about specific heat capacity and its importance relative to the composition (as above).
Neither could comprehend that there was never enough CO2 available to lift the entire atmosphere 2 Kelvin.
Neither could explain photosynthesis in any meaningful way nor could name its inputs or relevance to CO2.
Neither was aware that the oceans have been gradually rising (~420ft+) years since the last ice age.
Neither were aware of, or could explain the scientific method, or relevance of accuracy and precision of data.
Neither could identify the vast and diverse scientific fields of study that “climate science” comprised.
Neither could explain what baseload power was or its relevance to energy reliability or feasible options.
Neither were aware nor cared that China and India emit roughly the CO2 as ALL other countries combined.
Neither were aware nor cared that these statistics do no consider population density, industry or energy mix.
Neither were aware that contrary to sensationalist MSM misinformation OUR emissions are trending down.
Neither had ever done any environmental or conservation related volunteering work in their lifetime.
Neither of them have invested in PV, changed household devices or changed their energy consumption.

Both failed science and maths in high school and have pursued no relevant education in the 30 years since.
Both stated emphatically that the “science” of AGW is settled, proven, and undeniably without question.
Both claimed CO2 as being the primary cause of climate change, droughts, storms, fires and general weather.
Both claimed the imperative to drastically reduce or eliminate CO2 emissions to avert total collapse.
Both are members of extinction rebellion and protest at taxpayers expense upon the basis of “the science”.
Both are highly active on social media and driving their terrorist cells into disruptive social disobedience.

But they have no facts, no education, no knowledge, no solutions, and no idea about “the science”, frankly.

That such imbeciles are given airtime by the MSM encourages similar imbeciles is a postmodern Dark Age.
That instead of verifiable independent proofs, we have consensus, conjecture and opinion held up as fact.

Jeff Alberts
January 25, 2020 6:48 pm

What’s the orange/reddish thing dangling down in the cartoon?

Marcus
January 25, 2020 8:37 pm

Anthony

“sesnible people” ? How dare you !! LOL

Great post

LdB
January 25, 2020 9:15 pm

leaders were not reacting to the crisis, and were not being held accountable for their inaction.

Greta in a democracy the leaders are elected so they are always held accountable., so the correct statement would be

leaders were not reacting to the crisis, because the voters don’t care

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January 26, 2020 12:02 am

Sir David Attenborough says fixed-term parliaments lead to lack of climate focus https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-51252222

Toto
January 26, 2020 12:41 am