Greta Thunberg Takes Her Message To Davos: ‘Our Emissions Have To Stop’

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Greta Thunberg Takes Her Message To Davos: ‘Our Emissions Have To Stop’

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Leah Jessen Network Editor

January 21, 2020 11:50 AM ET

Teenage climate activist Greta Thunberg pressed world leaders to cut carbon emissions at the World Economic Forum on Tuesday in Davos, Switzerland.

Thunberg, Time’s 2019 Person of the Year, spoke during a panel discussion after President Donald Trump gave a 30-minute address at the forum.

“Let’s be clear. We don’t need a ‘low carbon economy.’ We don’t need to ‘lower emissions,’” Thunberg, 17, said, according to The New York Times.

“Our emissions have to stop if we are to have a chance to stay below the 1.5-degree target,” she added. (RELATED: Time Magazine Named Climate Activist Greta Thunberg Its ‘Person Of The Year,’ But What Is The Magazine’s Carbon Footprint?)

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The annual gathering kicked off Tuesday at the Swiss ski resort of Davos, the highest town in Europe.

“One year ago I came to Davos and told you that our house is on fire,” Thunberg said.

“Our house is still on fire,” the Swedish climate activist added. “Your inaction is fueling the flames by the hour.”

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Nicholas McGinley
January 21, 2020 2:02 pm

Look, at this point this middle school dropout is getting REALLY UPSET that everyone is not signing on to be a part of her doomsday catastrophe death cult…

DonM
Reply to  Nicholas McGinley
January 21, 2020 4:07 pm

First off, she lacks perspective. It is not that she is intellectually stunted (although she may be emotionally limited). She needs to go to poor Africa (not well off Africa) and live with the people there for 3 or 4 months to gain a little perspective.

Second, she was born to parents that lack perspective. Neither of them have ever contributed anything of substance that would justify their economic place in the world, and they are not smart enough to understand this fact. Their daughter (not dumb), knowing that they really don’t deserve what they have, can’t reconcile her guilt because of her selfishness.

Third, she is perpetually constipated so the every day is a bad grumpy miserable day.

Brent Hargreaves
Reply to  DonM
January 21, 2020 4:19 pm

Constipated? The thought hadn’t crossed my mind but, thanks to you, I see it!
There I was thinking that 17-y-o Greta’s problem would best be sorted by a 17-y-o boy with a permerection….

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Brent Hargreaves
January 21, 2020 6:33 pm

Why do people insist on going there?

ghalfrunt
Reply to  Brent Hargreaves
January 21, 2020 7:18 pm

well that’s lowered this blog into the mud

Greg Woods
Reply to  ghalfrunt
January 22, 2020 1:55 am

I suggest that Snowflakes cease to read this blog…

ghalfrunt
Reply to  ghalfrunt
January 22, 2020 4:39 am

greg woods
Is it good to suggest that a person gets raped for what they say?

Gerry, England
Reply to  ghalfrunt
January 22, 2020 5:40 am

You are reading something that is not there ghalfrunt. The suggestion is that she try a normal life and have a boyfriend like other 17 year old girls would. To be fair I am not sure who would want to but no accounting for taste.

2hotel9
Reply to  Gerry, England
January 22, 2020 5:53 am

No, I and many, many others want her to lead by example, stop emitting, period. Buddhist and Hindu monks have the courage of their convictions, why don’t the greenunists?

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  ghalfrunt
January 22, 2020 8:48 am

Gerry, there are a few here that always try to sexualize things with this girl. It’s reprehensible, period.

MarkW
Reply to  ghalfrunt
January 22, 2020 1:05 pm

One off color comment drags the entire blog into the mud?

ghalfrunt
Reply to  ghalfrunt
January 22, 2020 7:16 pm

MarkW January 22, 2020 at 1:05 pm
One off color comment drags the entire blog into the mud
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yes, The blog is moderated. This should have been culled before publication

John Endicott
Reply to  ghalfrunt
January 23, 2020 11:26 am

well that’s lowered this blog into the mud

If one crude comment is all it took to “lower” a blog “into the mud”, every blog that allows comments that there ever has been have all long since been lowered into the mud.

Is it good to suggest that a person gets raped for what they say?

no one has suggested that. That you read that into the comment says a whole heck of a lot more about you than it does the person who made the original comment

yes, The blog is moderated. This should have been culled before publication

Unless a post uses certain watched words or too many links (or comes from a known troublemakers IP address), it generally doesn’t get held up for human review. If every post had to be reviewed before showing up, you might as well not have a comments section because you couldn’t have reasonable back and forth commenting due to the time it would take for the mods to personally screen every post.

If you have a problem with a particular post, report it to the mods via the tips and notes and they’ll take the appropriate action.

kwinterkorn
Reply to  Brent Hargreaves
January 22, 2020 2:08 pm

WUWT is a science blog with interests in the political and other discussion surrounding climate. BH’s comment above weakens this blog as do other ugly comments that focus at this level on persons and not issues. It is unfortunate, if BH is interested in countering the Greta movement, that he weakens this site. On the other hand, if he is a troll at heart, he could not do better.

Ad hominems that are light and humerous are ok. Ugliness against a teen-aged girl will lose every time.

Megs
Reply to  kwinterkorn
January 22, 2020 3:02 pm

Kwinterkorn, this teenage girl has been pushed in our face non stop for over a year now. She is simply being used as a marketing tool promote the whole Climate Change hysteria. You know, I have learned so much about the toxic side of wind and solar renewables and I would be happy to have a discussion with her about it. And like her, I am not a scientist. I have however taken the time to research the affects on the environment of a technology that is being forced on us for no greater good.

Greta chose to end her incomplete education and with the backing of her parents, both in the public eye, Al Gore and a plethora of the rich and famous. She is not an ordinary teenager, nothing about her is impromptu. She is following the script and she has no desire to seek the truth. She is leading a privileged life and is enjoying being in the spotlight.

Greta holds the world stage and everything she utters is broadcast around the world. In reality she is an ignorant schoolgirl. There are people on this site that could actually provide facts and insight into the CAGW debate but they have been shut down but people who are trying to pretend there is no debate. Like I said, I know more about the truth that she does, and I didn’t finish school either.

So I suggest that you have a little sympathy for the many scientists on this site who have been gagged completely, and they are forced to listen to an ignorant child.

BC
Reply to  kwinterkorn
January 22, 2020 4:29 pm

Agree with you. This blog is about science and defeating an anti-science political movement. Don’t damage the product with vulgarity.

ghalfrunt
Reply to  kwinterkorn
January 22, 2020 7:20 pm

Megs January 22, 2020 at 3:02 pm
Kwinterkorn, this teenage girl has been pushed in our face non stop for over a year now. She is simply being used as a marketing tool promote the whole Climate Change hysteria.
… She is not an ordinary teenager, nothing about her is impromptu. She is following the script and she has no desire to seek the truth. She is leading a privileged life and is enjoying being in the spotlight.
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If you have proof that she is being led by minders and that she has no desire for truth then why not post it here please?

Megs
Reply to  ghalfrunt
January 22, 2020 8:57 pm

ghalfrunt, Greta dropped out of school, the only further education she has received revolves around Climate Change. She is spouting pure propaganda, she is being used. At no stage did I say that she was stupid, but she ‘is’ well trained. If she knew the truth about wind and solar renewables she would not be promoting their uses, she is not being given a balanced view. Wind and solar are no better for the environment than fossil fuels.

Of course she is being ‘managed’, she does not set up her own travel plans, she wasn’t even managing her own Facebook account and admitted to that.

Yes her childhood was stolen, but her parents did that, and her managers and promoters. She will come to realise that one day, she will know what they did. Right now, the child is enjoying the ride.

There are people here on this site who not only completed their high school education but have gone on to further education studying for a decade or more. They have life experience and have been respected in their field. They know the truth, they have been silenced.

I say again, we are tired of listening to a child figurehead. To even complain that we have no right of reply to a child, is insulting to say the least. I wish her no harm, but I don’t have to listen to her either. The MSM have plenty of other people lined up to give the same point of view as her, ignorant people who are to afraid to have a conversation.

ThomasJ
Reply to  DonM
January 21, 2020 4:44 pm

As a matter of fact, Gretas parents should be charged for child abuse, period. Of course, here in Sweden she is the big star – at least in ‘our’ tax financed so called ‘public service (TV & radio), which IS the major fake news producer here. The situation is more devastating than the former DDR ever was. Poor child, poor country ! 🙁
Rgds from Sweden/TJ

Mike Lowe
Reply to  ThomasJ
January 21, 2020 6:22 pm

I don’t see her as a teenaged activist. I see her as a delusional teenager who is used by her deranged parents to try to get their message across without the handicap of being regarded as deranged parents.

shortus cynicus
Reply to  ThomasJ
January 22, 2020 12:44 am

I can only confirm. Soviets basically never crossed the line of direct mishandling of the children on mass scale.
Brainwashing yes, but not inducing of destructive behaviors or exposing to danger environment like grooming gangs.

4TimesAYear
Reply to  DonM
January 22, 2020 2:11 am

I’d still like to see her do some REAL work. Volunteer to scoop walks for the elderly on her truancy days. Make herself useful. Bet she’s never used a shovel in her life. Bet she’s never had to mow a lawn or weed a vegetable garden.

old white guy
Reply to  Nicholas McGinley
January 22, 2020 4:49 am

Her expelling CO2 must be stopped immediately. If only for our sanity.

Goldrider
Reply to  Nicholas McGinley
January 22, 2020 6:03 am

This sock puppet’s 15 minutes are almost up.

Bill Taylor
January 21, 2020 2:04 pm

this misguided child doesnt grasp each time we breathe is an “emission” and she demands we stop that!

Rocketscientist
Reply to  Bill Taylor
January 21, 2020 3:21 pm

Perhaps she should threaten to hold her breath until CO2 emissions stop… one can hope.

Climate Heretic
Reply to  Rocketscientist
January 21, 2020 3:51 pm

So to stop Greta’s CO2 emissions she needs to shut the F.U. PERMANENTLY.

Regards
Climate Heretic

ghalfrunt
Reply to  Climate Heretic
January 21, 2020 7:20 pm

Interesting, I though this blog always wanted there to be NO gagging of views?

Climate Heretic
Reply to  ghalfrunt
January 21, 2020 8:22 pm

I was being ‘facetious’. However, I agree with ‘no gagging of view’s.

Regards
Climate Heretic

Alan the Brit
Reply to  ghalfrunt
January 22, 2020 1:31 am

Unlike Greenalist blogs that ALWAYS want to gag opposing or even challenging & questioning viewpoints! After all, what’s the point of trying to brainwash people when you allow them access to someone else’s opinion?

2hotel9
Reply to  ghalfrunt
January 22, 2020 5:29 am

She has no “view”, all she has is leftist stupidity. It has been heard before. Silencing morons is the duty of every human being.

MarkW
Reply to  ghalfrunt
January 22, 2020 1:07 pm

There’s a world of difference between wishing for something and doing something to bring what you wished for about. Something leftists have never been able to understand.

4TimesAYear
Reply to  Rocketscientist
January 22, 2020 2:13 am

Yes, that’s usually what children having temper tantrums do – hold their breath. I think she’s moved on to the next stage: screaming at adults.

Reply to  Bill Taylor
January 21, 2020 3:27 pm

“To embrace the possibilities of tomorrow we must reject the perennial prophets of doom and their predictions of the Apocalypse. They are the heirs of yesterday’s foolish fortune tellers, and they want to see us do badly but we won’t let that happen. They predicted an overpopulation crisis in the 1960s, mass starvation in the 70s, and an end of oil in the 1990s. These alarmists always demand the same thing: absolute power to dominate, transform and control every aspect of our lives.”
— US President Donald Trump, World Economic Forum, Davos, 21 January 2020

“BEST PRESIDENT EVER!”

2hotel9
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
January 21, 2020 3:30 pm

Was watching that video earlier, he really peed in the leftists punchbowl with that paragraph.

Alan Watt, Climate Denialist Level 7
Reply to  2hotel9
January 21, 2020 4:56 pm

I thought he paid Russian prostitutes to do that? Maybe that’s another impeachable offense?

2hotel9
Reply to  Alan Watt, Climate Denialist Level 7
January 22, 2020 5:48 am

This list is seemingly endless without end!

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  Alan Watt, Climate Denialist Level 7
January 22, 2020 8:34 am

Why did you choose Russian prostitutes?

Do you prefer them to the American or the English prostitutes?

MarkW
Reply to  Alan Watt, Climate Denialist Level 7
January 22, 2020 1:08 pm

I believe there was an allegation at one time about Trump and Russian prostitutes.

beng135
Reply to  Alan Watt, Climate Denialist Level 7
January 23, 2020 10:52 am

In Soviet Russia, you don’t do prostitutes, prostitutes do you.

John Endicott
Reply to  Alan Watt, Climate Denialist Level 7
January 23, 2020 11:13 am

putting aside the sketchy nature of the source of that Russian prostitute propaganda, that was for peeing on a leftist’s bed. Peeing in their punchbowls is a job he take much glee in performing.

DonM
Reply to  Alan Watt, Climate Denialist Level 7
January 23, 2020 11:53 am

Whats the difference between a Lima Bean and a Chickpea?

Hillary & her foundation never paid $30,000 to compile a report that included Trump having a Lima Bean on his bed.

Nicholas McGinley
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
January 21, 2020 3:56 pm

The Emperor Has No Clothes, played out in real life before our eyes.

Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
January 21, 2020 5:42 pm

Some people think that the global warming/climate change extremists are just scientifically wrong. I challenge that view – nobody could be this stupid for this long – they have an extreme-left totalitarian agenda. The Marxists want total control.

THE RADICAL GREEN ROAD TO VENEZUELA – POVERTY, MISERY AND DICTATORSHIP
By Allan M.R. MacRae, B.A.Sc., M.Eng., September 20, 2019
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/09/20/the-radical-green-road-to-venezuela-poverty-misery-and-dictatorship/
[excerpt]

Radical greens have used wildly exaggerated scary stories of runaway global warming and climate change to stampede the gullible, in order to achieve their political objectives.

The absolute lunacy of the Green New Deal and its delusional acolytes is now clear – global warming alarmism and green energy nonsense was never about the climate – it was always a false narrative, a smokescreen for the totalitarian objectives of the extreme left. Once the left controls our energy supply, they control everything in our society – it will be “One Man, One Vote, Once!” – the end of freedom.

Alan the Brit
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
January 22, 2020 1:35 am

“it will be “One Man, One Vote, Once!” – the end of freedom.”

Not so sure! Didn’t the Soviet Union have general elections every now & then, voter turnout was compulsory, & ALL the candidates stood on the same platform politically, no challenges, no questioning, opposition will be obliterated, Siberia was full of dissidents, probably still is!

Newminster
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
January 22, 2020 5:18 am

Some of us have been saying that for the last 20 years, Allan, for all the good it’s ever done.

Anyone who has had ongoing dealing with enviro-activists as I did for half-a-lifetime as journalist and local councillor knows that reason, self-awareness, and the ability to relate to other people are alien to them. They are RIGHT! and that is the end of it. Their belief in their own rightness makes them eminently prone to manipulation by those who see environmentalism (we are all sort of “environmental” in our thinking, right?) as the perfect vehicle to change our perceptions about the world.

And since appears to be prone to fear — probably as a defence mechanism, they’re on a winner more times than not. Which is one reason why arguing “the science” doesn’t work. Taking them to task for abuse of the scientific method — models trump observations — or pointing out the inconsistencies — if CO2 is really the problem why are they opposed to nuclear power generation which does not add to CO2 emissions — are more likely to weaken their position.

But nature will have the last word. There WILL come a point where their arguments are no longer tenable because they are patently wrong.

Reply to  Newminster
January 23, 2020 3:31 pm

Hi Newminster.

You were abused with classic leftist propaganda tactics as described by Josef Goebbels and later simplified by Saul Alinsky in “Rules for Radicals”:

1. “Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.“ Power is derived from 2 main sources – money and people. “Have-Nots” must build power from flesh and blood.

2. “Never go outside the expertise of your people.“ It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone.

3. “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.“ Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty.

4. “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.“ If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules.

5. “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.“ There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.

6. “A good tactic is one your people enjoy.“ They’ll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. They’re doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones.

7. “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.“ Don’t become old news.

8. “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.“ Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new.

9. “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.“ Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist.

10.“The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition.” It is this unceasing pressure that results in the reactions from the opposition that are essential for the success of the campaign.

11. “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.“ Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog.

12. “The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.“ Never let the enemy score points because you’re caught without a solution to the problem.

13. “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.“ Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.
________________________________________

See also this treatise on the leftists’ decades-long program to corrupt our institutions:

https://centerforindividualism.org/the-lefts-long-march-through-the-institutions-is-now-pretty-much-complete-and-its-a-disaster/
______________________________________

In Soviet defector Yuri Bezmenov’s 1984 interview he predicts everything that is happening now.
https://youtu.be/bX3EZCVj2XA

This history of these tactics goes back further, as described below by Vladimir Lenin.

The Democrats’ policy is straight out of Lenin’s quotes.
https://www.azquotes.com/author/8716-Vladimir_Lenin

“Truth is the most precious thing. That’s why we should ration it.”

“We can and must write in a language which sows among the masses hate, revulsion, and scorn toward those who disagree with us.”

“There are no morals in politics; there is only expedience. A scoundrel may be of use to us just because he is a scoundrel.”

“Free speech is a bourgeois prejudice.”

“The press should be not only a collective propagandist and a collective agitator, but also a collective organizer of the masses.”

“People always have been and they always will be stupid victims of deceit and self-deception in politics.”

“It is, of course, much easier to shout, abuse, and howl than to attempt to relate, to explain.”

“Democracy is indispensable to socialism.”

“The goal of socialism is communism.”

“The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation.”

“Trust is good, but control is better.”

“As an ultimate objective, “peace” simply means communist world control.”

“One of the basic conditions for the victory of socialism is the arming of the workers Communist and the disarming of the bourgeoisie the middle class.”

“One man with a gun can control 100 without one.”

“Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted.”

“Give me just one generation of youth, and I’ll transform the whole world.”
___________________________________

WHAT THE GREEN NEW DEAL IS REALLY ABOUT — AND IT’S NOT THE CLIMATE
By Allan M.R. MacRae, B.A.Sc., M.Eng., July 19, 2019
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/07/20/what-the-green-new-deal-is-really-about-and-its-not-the-climate/

beng135
Reply to  Newminster
January 24, 2020 7:30 am

Thanks, Allan MaCrae. It’s uncanny how closely Lenin and Alinsky tactics are being employed. And many of the marxist-media talking points are coming out of some kind of marxist think-tank — montages of their talking points shows they all use the exact same wording every single day (which then change at intervals to newly-constructed points).

2hotel9
Reply to  beng135
January 24, 2020 8:30 am

Mr Limbow puts together audio montages of this on a routine basis. There is a tab on his webpage where you can listen them. MSM is totally shameless about doing this. They all say the exact same thing at the exact same time. Not even intelligent enough to change it slightly to give appearance of journalistic integrity.

Reply to  2hotel9
January 24, 2020 8:34 am

Limbaugh.

Rush Hudson Limbaugh III.

Known in his earlier years as “Rusty”.

2hotel9
Reply to  _Jim
January 24, 2020 9:18 am

So you remember the Mike Tyson bits, “Mr Limbow, Mr Limbow!!!”? Every time I get through I tell Snerdly they should run all the old comedy bits during breaks for us listening online and on the cellphone app, some real comedy gold there!

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
January 23, 2020 4:33 am

Look at https://ajustclimate.org/ to see the full lefty agenda.

Megs
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
January 23, 2020 2:11 pm

A lofty dream Joseph, an unachievable utopia. They don’t even know how their ‘clean’ energy comes about. They have thought of non of the practicalities. Their transport system needs steel, petroleum products for tyres. Have you seen the size of the tyres used on mining trucks. Speaking of trucks, the trucks used to transport wind turbines cost around $1.5 dollars each and they are never going to be powered by renewables.

These renewables need to be renewed on a regular basis, who’d have thunk it. Oh and on that, we still don’t have recycling in place for renewables, most of them are ending up in landfill.

There is so much that they have overlooked, like with renewable energy itself, they haven’t thought it through.

They are pushing a utopian dream that is impossible to achieve. That’s what happens when you don’t have a balanced view on life and actively shut out more than half the population, you become ignorant.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
January 21, 2020 6:56 pm

“These alarmists”

I busted out laughing when I heard Trump say that this morning. I woke up about 5am and turned on the Fox News Channel and Trump was on there giving this speech at that time and I really woke up when I heard him saying “alarmist” and talking about “failed predictions”. For a second I thought I was reading a post at WUWT! 🙂

Thanks for digging that quote up, Allan.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
January 21, 2020 7:44 pm

Funny. All the media attention of Trump here in Australia not one single mention of this comment.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Patrick MJD
January 21, 2020 11:19 pm

Yeah getting attention now. Trump (Impeachment and planet killer), Greta (Planet saver). Makes me want to reach for the bucket!

ozspeaksup
Reply to  Patrick MJD
January 22, 2020 4:12 am

early am abc rn did run it but snipped to a few seconds about their failed predictions, of course no following discussion on predictions that failed was presented just a longer clip of greebles bitchin

ozspeaksup
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
January 22, 2020 4:06 am

they even put snip of that on abc in aus
not all of course and overvoiced pdq and gretas whine got full airplay and kissy kissy support
as she asked for all emissions to be stopped they shoulda turned off the heating and lights for a quick reminder to all, and opened a few doors to the nice warm snow

Henning Nielsen
Reply to  Bill Taylor
January 22, 2020 4:42 am

Greta Thunberg, 17, 2020: “Our emissions have to stop”
Greta Thunberg, 18, 2021: “Our emissions have to stop”
Greta Thunberg, 19, 2022: “Our emissions have to stop”
Greta Thunberg, 20, 2023: “Our emissions have to stop”
Ad nauseum. She will never make the admission that our emissions will never stop. That would shatter her world. But interesting to see whether she will be a perpetual Davos-pet feature. Gradually relegated to coffee break entertainment, perhaps?

PeterW
January 21, 2020 2:06 pm

…….and I’m betting she’s never known serious hunger in her life, yet she is demanding that we starve billions.

Sheri
Reply to  PeterW
January 21, 2020 3:52 pm

She reportedly voluntarily starved herself. She lacks rational thought in many things so her understanding that loving our kids would not mean starving and freezing them under a world dictatorship is not something she will ever grasp.

Chaswarnertoo
January 21, 2020 2:10 pm

The Gretin should reduce her emissions, to zero. Or go back to school and learn some science.

Greg
Reply to  Chaswarnertoo
January 21, 2020 2:33 pm

In principal you are correct but sadly that is the last place she is going to learn any science. Just more indoctrination and bias confirmation.

She should still go back to school, then get a job and learn a bit about life for , let’s say, 20 years and then come back an lecture us again on what she has learnt.

Herbert
January 21, 2020 2:11 pm

How dare President Trump indirectly attack Ms. Thunberg in his address at Davos?
As Otis P.Driftwood (Groucho) said in A Night at the Opera,
“Hey, you big bully.What’s the idea of hitting that little bully?”

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Herbert
January 22, 2020 5:15 am

Trump was asked about Climate Change and Greta this morning at a press conference and Trump said, as he usually does, that he wants the cleanest water and air for the U.S., and Greta should go talk to the Chinese about CO2 production reduction.

Editor
January 21, 2020 2:17 pm

Still skipping school, getting further behind on education.

Child abuse is what I see here.

LdB
Reply to  Sunsettommy
January 21, 2020 5:24 pm

It obviously leads to problems in maths

forests in the Amazon are being slaughtered at an infinitely higher rate

How do you measure an infinitely higher rate????

MarkW
Reply to  LdB
January 22, 2020 1:11 pm

How do you slaughter a forest?

January 21, 2020 2:17 pm

Very Shortly, Greta Thunderbird is going to give up breathing as this will reduce her CO2 emissions. Unfortunately, this effort will reduce her future public appearance.

Steve Case
January 21, 2020 2:18 pm

I have a 1944 DOB so I probably won’t live to see her reaction when she realizes she was brainwashed.

Sheri
Reply to  Steve Case
January 21, 2020 3:54 pm

She may never realize it. I have a sibling who’s 60 years old and still as superstitious and uneducated as he was at 5. He will never be touched by reality.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Sheri
January 21, 2020 6:38 pm

And my wife still firmly believes a full moon makes people act strangely.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
January 21, 2020 7:48 pm

Some people on this rock do have 28 day cycles that follows the 28 day moon cycle.

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  Patrick MJD
January 22, 2020 8:49 am

“YUP”, and so does many, many insects, crustaceans and reptiles.

The “dark” of the Moon is their friend for molting.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Patrick MJD
January 22, 2020 8:55 am

But, menstruation tends to be around the new moon, not the full moon.

Michael Lemaire
Reply to  Patrick MJD
January 22, 2020 4:35 pm

a moon cycle as seen from the earth’s surface is 29.5 days

ianprsy
Reply to  Steve Case
January 22, 2020 1:49 am

Wrong attitude, Steve. I’m a year older than you and determined live to be 100 so I can do a big “I Told You So!”

Nicholas McGinley
Reply to  Steve Case
January 22, 2020 2:57 am

Florida has entire cities full of people who are healthy and active and sharp, and routinely live well into their 90’s and sometimes past that.

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  Nicholas McGinley
January 22, 2020 8:57 am

But, but, but, how can that be, ……. when Florida is an average 10F to 15F hotter than New York or Minnesota?

Why those “snowbirds” can’t possibly be surviving that 10F to 15F degree increase in temperature.

Joel Snider
Reply to  Steve Case
January 22, 2020 10:40 am

Look at how these people keep rationalizing and changing their story. They WILL keep doing it.

In order to understand them, you have to jettison and genuine critical thinking, and simply work backwards from their conclusion.

2hotel9
January 21, 2020 2:19 pm

Then stop emitting, brain damaged child. We, the human race, will not miss you.

Sunny
January 21, 2020 2:20 pm

The real question is who is paying for the 71 thousand entrance fee? Hotel and food bill? How did she get to davos??

She gets a free pass to do as she pleases, yet is repetitive and uneducated in her message

Scissor
Reply to  Sunny
January 21, 2020 3:29 pm

She’s a doom porn millionaire now, produced by the doom porn industry which she pimps.

2hotel9
Reply to  Scissor
January 21, 2020 3:31 pm

Well her father is a doom porn millionaire, I very much doubt she will see much of that loot.

fred250
Reply to  2hotel9
January 21, 2020 5:47 pm

I very much doubt she will see much of that loot.

And if she does, she will spend it all on consumer goods high in carbon manufacturing footprint.

Maybe buy a car, maybe an virtue-signalling EV manufactured totally , at every stage, using carbon based energy.

Nicholas McGinley
Reply to  Sunny
January 21, 2020 3:57 pm

I was wondering about that entrance fee myself.
Pretty hefty.

H.R.
Reply to  Nicholas McGinley
January 21, 2020 5:28 pm

Keeps out the riffraff… that’s us.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Sunny
January 21, 2020 7:05 pm

“food bill?”

A reporter said this morning that a hamburger costs $42 at Davos and a HotDog costs $43.

Is Greta a Vegan?

john
Reply to  Sunny
January 22, 2020 1:23 pm

I want to know how much income she has made over the last 2 years.

It’s a tax thingy…

January 21, 2020 2:25 pm

When is she planning a trip to China?

Mr.
Reply to  _Jim
January 21, 2020 2:46 pm

Jim, she (Greta) doesn’t do any planning at all – her handlers do all that.

And China? Why should Greta give China a dressing down, when no one from all the elite climate carpetbagger organisations dares to go there?

China is laughing its t1ts off at the West.
It says whatever the climate apocalists want to hear, but in reality China just keeps doing whatever it wants to with fossil fuel use all around the world.

MarkG
Reply to  Mr.
January 21, 2020 3:41 pm

“China is laughing its t1ts off at the West.”

China is probably funding the Gretard show.

Wade
Reply to  _Jim
January 21, 2020 3:19 pm

There is no need for her to go the China because it is already communist.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Wade
January 21, 2020 7:08 pm

Good point, Wade! 🙂

Latitude
Reply to  _Jim
January 21, 2020 5:24 pm

Jim, makes you wonder just how powerful is the Confucius Institute

Megs
Reply to  _Jim
January 22, 2020 3:29 am

Jim I was thinking exactly the same thing. She’s not going back to school, she lives a privileged life. She needs to wake up to herself, take herself off to China and tell them that they need to make a difference, see how far that gets her. Keep her busy for a while anyway.

Coeur de Lion
January 21, 2020 2:26 pm

Perhaps Greta is becoming oversold. We should be worrying about the fifty per cent of those without electricity who live in sub Saharan Africa. And have lagged horribly behind world trends in perinatal death rates and births per woman. Mentioned at Davos?

Reply to  Coeur de Lion
January 21, 2020 6:21 pm

Radical greens have been killing off African children for 50 years or more. The neo-Malthusians are just getting started. You are next.

HYPOTHESIS: RADICAL GREENS ARE THE GREAT KILLERS OF OUR AGE
By Allan M.R. MacRae, B.A.Sc., M.Eng., April 14, 2019
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/04/14/hypothesis-radical-greens-are-the-great-killers-of-our-age/
[excerpt]

2. My hypothesis is that “Radical Greens are the Great Killers of Our Age”.

Here is some of the supporting evidence:

The banning of DDT from ~1972 to 2002, which caused the malaria deaths of tens of millions of children under five years of age, and sickened and killed many more adults and children;
https://iea.org.uk/publications/research/malaria-and-the-ddt-story

The fierce green opposition to golden rice, actions that blinded and killed millions of children;
https://reason.com/blog/2013/09/30/scientists-call-out-greenpeace-for-killi
https://reason.com/blog/2016/06/29/100-nobel-laureates-demand-that-greenpea
https://reason.com/blog/2019/03/07/life-saving-golden-rice-finally-gets-to

The misallocation of scarce global resources for destructive intermittent “green energy” schemes, which are not green and produce little useful (dispatchable) energy;
https://www.manhattan-institute.org/green-energy-revolution-near-impossible

Properly allocated, a fraction of the trillions of dollars squandered on green energy schemes could have installed clean drinking water and sanitation systems into every community on the planet, saving the lives of many tens of millions of children and adults; the remaining funds could have significantly reduced deaths from malaria and malnutrition;
Global Crises, Global Solutions, The 1st Copenhagen Consensus, edited by Bjørn Lomborg, 2004,
Cambridge University Press, Cambridge, UK, 648 pp.

The number of Excess Winter Deaths and shattered lives caused by runaway energy costs in the developed world and lack of access to modern energy in the developing world probably exceeds the tens of millions of malaria deaths caused by the DDT ban; Excess Winter Deaths (more deaths in winter than non-winter months) total about two million souls per year, which demonstrates that Earth is colder-than-optimum for humanity;
https://friendsofsciencecalgary.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/cold-weather-kills-macrae-daleo-4sept2015-final.pdf

Indoor air pollution from cooking fires kills many women and children in the developing world;
https://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/statements/2004/statement5/en/

In addition to runaway energy costs and increased winter deaths, intermittent wind and solar power schemes have reduced grid reliability and increased the risk of power outages;
http://www.wind-watch.org/documents/wp-content/uploads/eonwindreport2005.pdf
https://www.thegwpf.com/increasing-electricity-system-fragility-in-the-uk/

Huge areas of agricultural land have been diverted from growing food to biofuels production, driving up food costs and causing hunger among the world’s poorest people.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2430252/

shortus cynicus
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
January 22, 2020 1:45 am

Don’t forget Planned Parenthood founded by left elitist eugenic movement, killing millions of black unborn babies, half of them probably “self-identifying as females”.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
January 22, 2020 5:35 am

“Radical greens have been killing off African children for 50 years or more. The neo-Malthusians are just getting started”

Some in Africa seem to be looking to Trump for hope. I think they are looking in the right place. The wrong place for Africa to look for salvation is to the Chinese.

https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2020/01/21/african-ceo-praises-trump-and-america/

“RUSH: “Anyway, here is Patrice Motsepe, who is the founder of the African Rainbow Minerals mining company after Trump asked all these CEOs at the dinner he hosted to stand up and introduce themselves and say a few things.

MOTSEPE: All I wanted to say is that Africa loves America. Africa loves you.

THE PRESIDENT: Thank you very much. That’s an honor. Thank you.

MOTSEPE: And it’s very, very important. We want America to do well. We want you to do well. And the success of America is the success of the rest of the world.

RUSH: An African CEO, on the day after Martin Luther King Day praising Trump, praising America: Africa loves America. Africa loves Trump. Want both of you to do well.”

end excerpt

ghalfrunt
Reply to  Coeur de Lion
January 21, 2020 7:24 pm

how much have you contributed to the billions required to provide an electric grid for all those villages (who incidentally will not be able to afford cookers or electricity). Much better to provide solar panels and batteries.

Reply to  ghalfrunt
January 22, 2020 1:22 am

ghalfrunt wrote: “Much better to provide solar panels and batteries.”

I hope you are being sarcastic.

I am familiar with the application of this technology in Africa, having been involved with charities that provide it. It is a start, but a damned poor one compared to the electrical grid that would have covered the African continent by now, were it not for opposition by radical greens who have infested the UN, the World Bank and the IFC.

ghalfrunt
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
January 22, 2020 8:36 am

Thermal stations need water for steam and usually water to cool the steam Where is this to come from. Generators will be located near cool water sources. Warm water sources will get too warm for flora and fauna (France has to frequently shut Nuclear generators when the cooling water is too high.).
who is to pay for the transmission lines to the remote villages. Who is to pay for the substations to bring the voltage to user levels. Who is to pay for policing the grid lines to stop theft. who is to pay for the cookers and fridges that are needed.
cookers will use perhaps 3kwh per day and fridges 3kwh per day a total of 180kwh/month = $1.26 @ $0.07/kwh. Where will this money come from.

Reply to  ghalfrunt
January 22, 2020 8:51 am

re: “who is to pay for the transmission lines to the remote villages.”

Straight line projection of ‘tech’ into the future; fraught with hazard, if you had not noticed. In that vein, I offer proof of continued development of leading-edge energy-producing technology:

“FIVE HOUR DURATION STEAM PRODUCTION RUN POWERED BY THE SUNCELL®”
https://brilliantlightpower.com/five-hour-duration-steam-production-run-powered-by-the-suncell/

Reply to  ghalfrunt
January 22, 2020 4:05 pm

“Many newer power plants have cooling systems that reuse water”

https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=14971

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  ghalfrunt
January 26, 2020 12:54 pm

If their leaders weren’t so corrupt, they’d have all they needed already.

richard
January 21, 2020 2:30 pm

Interesting thing is the down voting on this Guardian, news item- times are a changing.

‘What will you tell your children?’: Greta Thunberg blasts climate inaction at Davos

stinkerp
Reply to  richard
January 21, 2020 2:45 pm

I will tell my children what the evidence shows: that “global warming” aka “climate change” is yet another apocalyptic hoax perpetrated by the same cabal of alarmists who instigated the “overpopulation,” “peak oil,” and “ozone hole” hoaxes and other imagined apocalypses; all of which turned out to be molehills instead of mountains.

Unlike Greta and her uninformed ilk, I have actually examined the data on warming, sea level rise, ocean “acidification” and I show it to my nearest and dearest when they ask about it. Then I show them how the climate model projections, upon which the entire foundation of climate alarmism rests, differ dramatically from measurements, which any real scientist will tell you demonstrates that the climate models and the claims based on them are…wait for it…wrong.

Greg
Reply to  richard
January 21, 2020 2:46 pm

So who, in positions of power is giving this self opinionated child such a platform, and why ?!

Hours of prime time coverage meeting with countless world leaders and international fora, totally unopposed and without anyone to question her diatribe. NO ONE gets that kind of freedom unchallenged, why her?

Alasdair Fairbairn
Reply to  Greg
January 21, 2020 3:07 pm

I think you will find it is the UN and its acolytes which is providing the platform.
Christiana Figueres of the UNFCCC is known to have admitted that the real objective of that organisation is to replace the global capitalist economic structure with a marxist type equivalent. Little to do with the climate upon which the agenda piggybacks.

EternalOptimist
Reply to  Greg
January 21, 2020 3:20 pm

Because Bambi was pre-booked

These people think that getting someone/something cute enhances their message.
It works.. for a while

RobH
Reply to  Greg
January 21, 2020 3:42 pm

NO ONE gets that kind of freedom unchallenged, why her?

I think that’s a rhetorical question, isn’t it?
She’s there because they want her there. It’s all theatre, or more precisely TV. Nobody seriously thinks she’s really telling them anything they don’t want to hear.

Megs
Reply to  Greg
January 22, 2020 3:41 am

It also started with her ‘wagging school’ to help save the world, and people fell for it. It was a very successful marketing campaign and Al Gore was behind it. Her parents, an actor and an opera singer have been a part of the green scheme for a very long time and friends of the very rich and famous. Just being rich and famous qualifies people to proclaim that they know best.

KT66
Reply to  richard
January 21, 2020 5:03 pm

I will tell my children that I fought this scam so they could live free in better world instead of as surfs in socialist hell. I will tell them that I fought for truth and sound science. I will tell them that I fought so they would be scientifically literate, numerate, and have a sound understanding of the real world.

Berndt Koch
Reply to  KT66
January 21, 2020 9:36 pm

I will tell my grand children that millions died in order that they can say what they want.. and now that sacrifice is being taken from us By stealth

Megs
Reply to  KT66
January 22, 2020 3:44 am

Here here KT66!

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  KT66
January 23, 2020 11:11 pm

“surfs in socialist hell”

Hanging ten in hell might not be so bad.

J Mac
January 21, 2020 2:33 pm

How Dare You, reGretable!
You are stealing my second childhood!!

Colin Roberts
January 21, 2020 2:34 pm

The poor kid is looking stressed and sick. Her parents need a good kick up the backside for encouraging her into this stupidity, or exercising a little parental responsibility to keep her at school and enjoy being a kid. Because stupidity is what her rantings are. palmtohead!!!!!!!!!

shortus cynicus
Reply to  Colin Roberts
January 22, 2020 1:51 am
2hotel9
Reply to  Colin Roberts
January 22, 2020 5:34 am

Her parents are the main ones exploiting her. While she was in US some state’s Child Protective Service office should have taken her into custody for her own protection. Long and tangled international case during which she could be forced to receive the mental and medical care she so clearly and desperately needs.

Dave-E
January 21, 2020 2:38 pm

If she had said, “My emissions (read bloviating) has to stop,” we all would heartily agree. Probably celebrate.

January 21, 2020 2:41 pm

… charmingly brainwashed with fiction

Greta Get-a-clue-berg

Grating On-my-last-nerve-berg

Mark H
January 21, 2020 2:53 pm

If her house is on fire, I hope someone rushed in and saved that Eames lounge chair.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  Mark H
January 22, 2020 4:21 am

yeah one chair is half my yearly income
hard done by isnt she?

a happy little debunker
January 21, 2020 2:54 pm

I promise my emissions will stop – Now pull my finger!

Sweet Old Bob
January 21, 2020 2:58 pm

“One year ago I came to Davos and told you that our house is on fire,” Thunberg said.

“Our house is still on fire,” the Swedish climate activist added. “Your inaction is fueling the flames by the hour.”

Well …. the house must be pretty resistant to burning if it still exists after a year of burning …
😉

Sheri
Reply to  Sweet Old Bob
January 21, 2020 3:57 pm

Thumbs up on that one.

Isn’t there a penalty for false reporting???

2hotel9
Reply to  Sheri
January 22, 2020 5:50 am

Of course the house is on fire, one in the furnace, one in the fireplace and one under the hotwater heater! And don’t for get the gas stove.

StephenP
Reply to  2hotel9
January 22, 2020 9:57 am

Maybe they should turn off all the fossil fuelled heating in the Conference Centre and hotels in Davos.
Otherwise they could all be shown up as humbugs.

2hotel9
Reply to  StephenP
January 23, 2020 6:11 am

This is a point I have pushed for years. All these greenunists need identified and blocked from use of anything derived from petroleum, hydro, coal or nuclear.

Carl Friis-Hansen
January 21, 2020 3:00 pm

Listening to her speeches and knowing she grew up in a liberal high-society, it seems to me that she almost never got contradicted throughout her childhood. Incidentally a few of my school friends were in the same boat as Greta Thunberg, but most of them matured into nice and friendly people with reasonable listening qualities.
Apart from hoping Greta will mature in the same way too, I find it breathtaking shameful that she is invited to speak at such high ranking meetings in such an undiplomatic and nonfactual way. – I guess I do not understand the ways of political propaganda.

Latitude
Reply to  Carl Friis-Hansen
January 21, 2020 4:46 pm

Exactly what I was thinking too Carl…..they turned it into a clown show

John
January 21, 2020 3:03 pm

It’s all well and good to tell people to stop doing something but unless you have a viable alternative then you’re just wasting your time complaining about it.

John Sandhofner
January 21, 2020 3:05 pm

The rapid rise of notoriety for this young girl is evidence of how the liberal media is able to create a star for their audience. The rest of us pay her no mind but everyone else listens to her every word hoping she will start a fire storm. It will be interesting to see how it turns out for her in the long term. Very likely they will have emotionally abused a young girl to advance their agenda.

Michael F
January 21, 2020 3:08 pm

What is Greta doing at the World Economic Forum? Has she just qualified to speak about economics as well as “climate”. Next, it will be Physics then chemistry and he crowning glory will be an in-depth discussion of the various political systems throughout te world. It will never end.

2hotel9
January 21, 2020 3:10 pm

She can start with her own. A plastic shopping bag, before they are all banned, is most likely the leftists favored method. It served them well in Cambodia.

Ron
January 21, 2020 3:11 pm

So if we stop emissions we can stop the climate from changing?
Really?

lynn
January 21, 2020 3:14 pm

“Backatcha: Thunberg returns Trump’s climate jibe”
https://apnews.com/7a1def0638f8a51f1cd3a6299b903c58

“DAVOS, Switzerland (AP) — Greta Thunberg isn’t easily intimidated.”

“The 17-year-old Swedish activist wasted little time on Tuesday to push back against U.S. President Donald Trump’s description of climate campaigners as “the perennial prophets of doom” who predict the “apocalypse.””

Are Greta Doomberg and Michael Doomberg related ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Bloomberg

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  lynn
January 21, 2020 4:06 pm

I noticed in her “push back” she studiously avoided answering any of Trump’s observations.

czechlist
Reply to  D. J. Hawkins
January 21, 2020 4:48 pm

Her comments were carefully written and her mannerism rehearsed long before Trump spoke. No time for her respond and I am quite certain she, like 0bama, doesn’t do well off script/prompter

David Chappell
Reply to  lynn
January 21, 2020 8:11 pm

From the AP article:
“There have been 44 weather and climate disasters in the United States that caused at least $1 billion in damage since 2017, killing 3,569 people, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.”

Really? But just what is a “climate disaster” anyway?

Bill Powers
Reply to  David Chappell
January 22, 2020 4:12 am

some people call them storms but the media just can’t help themselves. Its like kids trying to outdo each other. One up sensationalizing. Stormpocalypses and Snowmaggedons. They are like 3rd graders.

They can’t stop. It would be like telling someone with Parkinsons to be completely still. Not gonna happen.

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  David Chappell
January 22, 2020 7:57 am

According to the Eco-Nazis, it’s any kind of “bad weather,” which they like to pretend has never happened before, and wouldn’t happen any more, if only we would submit to economically ruinous “climate policies.”

Flight Level
January 21, 2020 3:18 pm

Monday morninr, Zurich (LSZH) was not the place to be due to accommodation for all official traffic. It started already on Sunday and by Monday evening had drawn many drivers in deep depressive despair.

I’ve been told that only hybrid cabs were allowed to serve passengers.

Such s the reality when big save the world wheels burn kerosene for the purpose.

Clarky of Oz
January 21, 2020 3:18 pm

The solution is so bloody obvious it makes me weep.
Stop all fossil fuel use now. Immediately, at once. Yes you.

Result: No Davos, No Greta screaming at us.

Simples.

Ok, there might be a one or two side effects but the serenity!

n.n
Reply to  Clarky of Oz
January 21, 2020 6:33 pm

First, they came for the emissions… There are diverse precedents that appeasement of their for-profit advocacy and activism only serves to progress their appetites. Their associated efforts to force the viability of planned populations schemes is the proverbial canary in the Green gauntlet.

Rudolf Huber
January 21, 2020 3:22 pm

Damned, I just exhaled. Greta won’t be happy. Why doesn’t she tell us straight that she expects humanity to disappear? Would be more honest if she came clean about it. There was a German who had a stab at it about 80 years ago. That was not the best chapter in the history of humans. Do we want a repeat? I don’t – but what about the rest of the world. Shall we ask them? Or is it sensible to assume that as long as there are humans, they will alter their environment? As they have to. primitive humans did not cross oceans in race boats and first Swedes most certainly did not eat bananas. So, what’s it going to be?

Scissor
Reply to  Rudolf Huber
January 21, 2020 6:53 pm

Inhale.

David Chappell
Reply to  Rudolf Huber
January 21, 2020 8:14 pm

Strictly speaking he was an Austrian by birth

Tom Gelsthorpe
January 21, 2020 3:22 pm

What’s Greta going to tell her children when they grow up in a Neo-Stone Age world strewn with billions of pieces of abandoned machinery, cities abandoned, roads, railroads and airports left to crumble, and remnant populations attempting to feed a declining population by working farm fields with wooden tools?

With emissions scaled back to “zero,” every steel device that you can picture — from hammers & nails to washing machines, to cars and backhoes — must be left to rust in place. You couldn’t drag the wreckage to smelters even with oxen. Oxen aren’t “zero emission.” You couldn’t run the smelters anyway; recycling would be an empty dream. No phones, no wires, no utilities, no refrigeration, no stoves nor modern buildings. Even tents and log cabins are not “zero emission.”

The poor girl is woefully ignorant, with no notion of metallurgy or the laws of thermodynamics, and she’s quite mad. The unscrupulous publicists putting her up to this, are goading other children and adults to go mad, too, lest they be accused of arguing with a child.

richardw
January 21, 2020 3:24 pm

She reminds me of an emoji, particularly when she has her angry face on.

Interesting reaction to Trump’s speech, but the slavish devotion to The Cause continues to be displayed by the UK press. The ITV reporter tonight called the science behind the Climate Emergency “100% crystal clear.” They really do believe that, unfortunately; totalitarian ideologies like this enforce an agenda that makes it impossible for believers to act or even think in a different way. Look at the way a civilised German population responded to Naziism, the specific case of Adolf Eichmann showing how an otherwise apparently inoffensive normal person could behave. Hannah Arendt called it “The Banality of Evil.” OK Climate Change isn’t Naziism but the same psychological mechanisms apply. Jean Piaget’s theory of moral development identifies a stage we all reach following early childhood where our moral behaviour and judgement is derived from the ethos of our peer group; in a free society we can progress to a stage where we use independent principles as our reference, but this is deliberately impeded in totalitarian ideologies where free speech is prohibited.

David Chappell
Reply to  richardw
January 21, 2020 8:17 pm

“She reminds me of an emoji, particularly when she has her angry face on.”
Maybe some clever person can turn her into an emoji.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  David Chappell
January 23, 2020 11:15 pm

poop emoji.

Berndt Koch
Reply to  richardw
January 21, 2020 9:48 pm

“OK Climate Change isn’t Naziism..”. Give it a year or two.. Climatenacht is coming and like busses, more than one will turn up at the same time..

Shoki Kaneda
January 21, 2020 3:26 pm

It would be great if her emissions stopped.

TomRude
January 21, 2020 3:33 pm

CBC is always a source in order to know how the system and its elite think, act and react: introducing Greta 2.0, the Near Perfect One.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/indigenous/autumn-peltier-thunberg-davos-1.5435091
“Teen activist Autumn Peltier appears at World Economic Forum with criticism for federal politicians
Anishinaabe water activist on panel in Davos, Switzerland with Greta Thunberg”
An obviously carefully selected activist, from Canada the land of Trudeau in which CRA stopped investigation any political interference by US based green “charities” so his campaign could proceed unencumbered, comes the perfect new gem sitting near Thunberg, checking all the boxes of unassailable status.

The 15-year old, who hails from Wiikwemkoong First Nation on Manitoulin Island in northern Ontario, shared her dismay at their lack of attention toward the issue while on a panel at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland on Tuesday.
Peltier has spent her last eight years putting pressure on politicians to take climate change more seriously, while advocating for clean drinking water in Indigenous communities and serving as the chief water commissioner for the Anishinabek Nation, a political advocacy group for 40 First Nations across Ontario.

Evidently at 7, she was even more precocious than Greta and is showing that Canadian grade 1 education in
Northern Ontario is world class… Unlike what other UN reports may say about how Canada treats its population.

Smart Rock
Reply to  TomRude
January 21, 2020 8:13 pm

Northern Ontario is world class

Have you been to a reserve in northern Ontario lately? Not the ones you can drive to but the fly-in reserves. Some are pretty grim places – what you would expect when you have 2,000 people living in a clearing in the forest with no economic activity to sustain the community, other than very sparse government handouts (which in some cases are mis-handled by a chief and council controlled by a “ruling” family). Where young people with ambition all leave, which makes the place that much more dismal for those who remain.

Reserves (in the US they are called reservations) in remote locations are a Canadian problem that will be solved (or probably not) in a typically Canadian half-hearted, bumbling way. Not by appeals to the “international community” who have all decided that the Athabasca oil sands are evil incarnate anyway. Nor by unelected UN bureaucrats telling us to stop building pipelines – immediately!

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/british-columbia/article-human-rights-watchdogs-under-fire-over-coastal-gaslink-conclusions/

TomRude
Reply to  Smart Rock
January 21, 2020 10:24 pm

My world class reference was sarcastic… as I agree with your comment.

kramer
January 21, 2020 3:39 pm

“her message”? I doubt it. More like the message of the rich, elites, and socialists.

Joey
January 21, 2020 3:42 pm

No….”our” emissions don’t have to stop. Yours certainly do, however.

Chris Hanley
January 21, 2020 3:52 pm

She is actually a den!ers’ agent provocateur spreading ‘black propaganda’.

John Minich
January 21, 2020 3:56 pm

I am rather fed up with some of this baloney. This “girl of the year” wants emissions to stop. Okay, I’ll use reductio ad absurdum on this. For her “emission free” yacht, I hope no petroleum or derivative was used in the hull and rigging and the metallurgy for the fittings, including winches, pulleys, galley, ad nauseum. To be thorough, all living organisms must be destroyed, including microscopic ones. There still will emissions from volcanoes and hot springs, but the United Nations can pass an internationally binding law to forbid geologic emissions, which will make everything non-polluting. Unfortunately, there might be one politician or bureaucrat too stubborn to die and it will still emit hot air and hot carbon dioxide.

PaulH
January 21, 2020 3:59 pm

This “Greta Inc.” doc should be interesting:

https://youtu.be/VZGDZVOYSJM

Climate Heretic
January 21, 2020 4:07 pm

What happened to Greta’s “I can see CO2”? Greta needs to be subjected to a James Randi skeptic extraordinaire, test.

Regards
Climate Heretic
PS I don’t blame Greta. She is being manipulated and abused, period. Those who control her are the ones that need to be outed and destroyed without mercy.

MiloCrabtree
January 21, 2020 4:29 pm

If we do as Greta wishes, millions will die. Is Greta the new Rachel Carson?

January 21, 2020 4:33 pm

“One year ago I came to Davos and told you that our house is on fire. Our house is still on fire”

OK so it’s on fire but we still have a house and with fancy meetings in fancy places with fancy speeches.

How bad can it be?

Reply to  Chaamjamal
January 21, 2020 5:07 pm

Not everyone may know that this young school girl has her own carbon budget for 1.5C

Here it is

https://tambonthongchai.com/2020/01/02/greta-thunbergs-carbon-budget/

ozspeaksup
Reply to  Chaamjamal
January 22, 2020 4:20 am

@50k a ticket?
pretty posh I reckon
i see our termite ex pollie got her face there, aftermention elsewhere of some highpaid job for some os setup
(finances I think) JuLIA(R) bishop
always wondered how she afforded the 4k and upward Armani threads myself.

Cls
January 21, 2020 4:49 pm

The perps are China, and India, for now.

Would Greta of Arc be allowed to step foot in either of those nations?

Her handlers need a new shtick.

Plantation Willie
January 21, 2020 5:03 pm

I think its quite revealing that her father said that prior to her climate evangelism she was quite depressed, so much so that she would not even talk. Then she embraced a noble cause which brought her out of depression and complacency and transformed her from woeful teen to true believer a la Eric Hoffer. She doesn’t like being ignored, yet she quite unrealistically expects the world to transform enough to meet her personal expectations because she says so. What else should the world do but ignore her? Her own attitude demands it. She’s a petulant child.

Walter Sobchak
January 21, 2020 5:47 pm

We have already established that Climate Change is a religious cult. There are many examples of children who preached religion, like Greta. Here is a well documented one:

“Hugh Marjoe Ross Gortner (born January 14, 1944) is a former evangelist preacher and actor. He first gained public attention during the late 1940s when his parents arranged for him to be ordained as a preacher at age four, due to his extraordinary speaking ability. He was the youngest known in that position. As a young man, he preached on the revival circuit and brought celebrity to the revival movement.

“He became a celebrity again during the 1970s when he starred in Marjoe (1972), a behind-the-scenes documentary about the lucrative business of Pentecostal preaching. It won the 1972 Academy Award for Best Documentary Film.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marjoe_Gortner

The Original Preacher knew all about this and told us about it 3,000 years ago:

Qohelet [Heb. Preacher, a/k/a Ecclesiastes] — Ch 1

9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is nothing new under the sun.

10 Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us.

11 There is no remembrance of former things; neither shall there be any remembrance of things that are to come with those that shall come after.

12 I, the Preacher, was king over Israel in Jerusalem.

13 And I gave my heart to seek and search out by wisdom concerning all things that are done under heaven: this sore travail hath God given to the sons of man to be exercised therewith.

14 I have seen all the works that are done under the sun; and, behold, all is vanity and vexation of spirit.

Go away little girl. Grow up. Study wisdom. Then come back and apologize to all of your elders who you have so rashly insulted.

markl
January 21, 2020 5:54 pm

At the sake of being called a conspiracy theorist I claim Hitler youth. There, I said it, and am not ashamed of referring to “Hitler”, or even “youth” (is that PC these days?). Apart from the MSM I think most people look at her the same way.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  markl
January 22, 2020 4:26 am

in the very start of the clip see theleft hand side hand in fist…funny how I thought of sigheil as well…
that plus the banksters all pushing for it and the repeated again mention of the eurocrats being handed power to invade/control non commpliant nations for climate non compliance
love to see them try that withchina russia india or even usa

Editor
January 21, 2020 5:56 pm

Among all he justified criticisms of Greta Thunberg, it seems to have been missed that she actually got something very right. I suggest that rational people could usefully quote it at times:

Let’s be clear. We don’t need a low carbon economy. We don’t need to lower emissions.
– Greta Thunberg, Jan 2020.

Scissor
Reply to  Mike Jonas
January 21, 2020 6:55 pm

Good quotation. Worthy of remembering that one.

damp
January 21, 2020 5:59 pm

“I WANT WHAT I WANT, AND I WANT IT NOW!” – the puerile wail of the infant. And leftist.

n.n
January 21, 2020 6:26 pm

Is “emissions” another euphemism for People… persons… Posterity? And “our emission have to stop” a nuanced euphemism for planned populations? Another wicked solution, the same as the old.

Michael Carter
January 21, 2020 6:46 pm

I doubt that at here age she has any understanding of what she has got herself into. If she has already suffered from legit depression before her fame she has some very hard times coming down the track. I feel sorry for this young women.

No way would I ever wish her path on a daughter of mine regardless of how much money can be made. In fact, if I had the power I would forbid it.

philincalifornia
January 21, 2020 7:16 pm

Actually, I think just about everyone on here is missing something important about what she is actually saying. While it’s for the wrong reason, she’s excoriating the climate cretins, liars and parasitic windbags who constitute the trillion dollar industry of people generally being cretins, liars and parasitic windbags while simultaneously stealing humanity’s wealth and prosperity and making it their wealth and prosperity.

There’s a much simpler explanation as to why they do it – they wouldn’t know what a socialist manifesto (or even a calculator) is if it got in the shower with them. It’s called money – easy money for being windbags. We have some on here. Greta has a point although, unfortunately, given that she adds CO2 to the atmosphere too, she and her parents are part of the parasitism.

On that lovely note,

Cheers, Phil

Tom Abbott
Reply to  philincalifornia
January 22, 2020 6:44 am

“Actually, I think just about everyone on here is missing something important about what she is actually saying. While it’s for the wrong reason, she’s excoriating the climate cretins, liars and parasitic windbags who constitute the trillion dollar industry of people generally being cretins, liars and parasitic windbags while simultaneously stealing humanity’s wealth and prosperity and making it their wealth and prosperity.”

Yes, Greta is really criticizing anyone who is causing CO2 emissions and that includes all the alarmists who are doing so. Greta is effectively calling her fellow alarmists hypocrites. Which they are. Greta is speaking the truth as far as that goes.

Of course, the alarmists pretend she isn’t directing her criticism at them. But she is, she is directlng that criticism at anyone who produces CO2 emissions. If you haven’t gone fossil fuel-free by now, then Greta is talking to you.

Billy
January 21, 2020 7:18 pm

I suggest that all grid electricity and natural gas be turned off for 1 week in North America and Europe.
Enthusiasm for Greta would whither away, quite quickly.

Petit_Barde
January 21, 2020 7:56 pm

“Your inaction is fueling the flames by the hour,” Thunberg declared.

If by “you” you mean “you, corrupted politicians by the green blob” this sentence is quite true.
Indeed the inaction with respect to forests management, mandated by corrupted politicians obeing to green activists have contributed for decades to fuel the Californian and Australian recent wildfires.

“Let’s be clear: we don’t need a low carbon economy, we don’t need to lower emissions — our emissions have to stop.”

You first.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Petit_Barde
January 22, 2020 7:05 am

Greta said: “Let’s be clear: we don’t need a low carbon economy, we don’t need to lower emissions — our emissions have to stop.”

Greta has high hopes. Greta is going to be very disappointed because this is not going to happen, it is totally unrealistic and I think even the alarmists are starting to realize this.

Demanding the impossible doesn’t make things better. Especially when the demands are directed at a CO2 problem that doesn’t exist except in the minds of the convinced.

Gary
January 21, 2020 8:07 pm

Has anyone ever asked her if she has read the research? The IPCC reports? Anything? Her scolding is tedious and with out any substance, just emotion. Eventually people will get tired of it.

Ian Coleman
January 21, 2020 8:10 pm

Greta Thunberg is now seventeen, and is five foot ten. She looks as if she hasn’t gone through puberty. (by this I mean, not that he hasn’t, but that her physicality is strikingly immature.) Add her emotional problems to her physical problems, and it is unlikely that this girl is headed for a happy adulthood.

Twenty years from now, she will be thirty-seven. She will probably be living in Sweden, which will still be a peaceable, prosperous country with a temperate climate. Her worst nightmare will have come true. This is not that a mass extinction will occur if the world doesn’t replace fossil fuels, but that it will turn out that no, the habitability of Earth is unaffected by the concentration of atmospheric carbon dioxide.

Of course I don’t know, but I suspect that Michael Mann and Kevin Trenberth and Phil Jones all understand that their theory could be wrong. In fact, their frantic attempts to protect the data from external scrutiny suggest that they understand full well that the theory has already been falsified. Greta doesn’t know that, which means that, as the years go by, she is in for quite a lesson.

Fanakapan
January 21, 2020 8:23 pm

Follow the money !

The very fact that little Greta got a spot at Davos, may well indicate that big business thinks it can turn a few bucks from the planetary doom guilt trip ?

It says much about the diminishing talent pool in marketing when you look at their recent targetting of miniscule trends such as transgenderism, block chain currency, and other passing fads.

At some point somebody will realise that these efforts to virtue signal inevitably show up as a big negative on the bottom line, think Gillette, and Dicks sporting Goods.

Ian Coleman
January 21, 2020 8:31 pm

Oops. I meant to say that Greta is four foot ten. She’s like a human version of the Grumpy Cat.

JonasM
Reply to  Ian Coleman
January 22, 2020 9:11 am

But Grumpy Cat is actually funny.

Killer Marmot
January 21, 2020 8:37 pm

“Our emissions have to stop!”

The jokes write themselves.

Pete
January 21, 2020 9:18 pm

Next they’ll be selling small bottles of her tears to help save the planet and they’ll sell millions until someone realised that she would have had to be crying non stop for 4,300 years to produce what’s been sold.

January 21, 2020 10:07 pm

OK Doomer, we hear what you are saying.
Now, go back to school and learn something.

Jean Meeus
January 21, 2020 11:24 pm

Our house is on fire? From 1880 to 2019, the mean global temperature of the lower atmosphere increased by only 1 (one!) degree centigrade. Is that “on fire”? Greta thinks we are idiots.
Moreover, that small warming over a period of 140 years is a good thing, since we are coming from a cold period, the so-called little ice age.

William Haas
January 22, 2020 12:01 am

Greta is just a 9th grader with a general science education and is just paroting what she has been told. If one really thinks that fossil fuels are bad then one should stop making use of all goods and services that involve the use of fossil fuels in any way but apparently she is not doing that. In my community if the use of fossil fuels was banned we would all parrish in short order. The reality is that, according to the paleoclimate record and the work done with models. the climate change we have been experiencing is caused by the sun and the oceans over which mankind has no control Despite the hype, there is no real evidence that CO2 has any effect on climate and there is plenty of scientific rationale to support the conclusion that the climate sensitivity of CO2 is zero. So lowering CO2 emissions will have no effect on climate. I wounder how the home that Greta lives in is heated, how electricity to provide lighting in her home is provided, and how products such as food and clothing get to Greta’s home. I doubt that she is living a fossil fuel free life especially with all the travel she has been undertaking. Instead of going to all of these meetings, she should give her comments over the Internet.

Petit_Barde
January 22, 2020 12:15 am

The more I look at G. T. videos the more I doubt that she suffers an Asperger syndrome.
I know some that actually suffer an Asperger syndrome and they definitely DO NOT act as she does in public.

It seems to me that even this G.T.’s Asperger syndrome is a fraud mounted from scratch so that she cannot be held personally responsible for the debilitating stupidities that she utters.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Petit_Barde
January 22, 2020 12:34 am

I wondered for just a sec, G. T., and though GrandTour?

It doesn't add up...
Reply to  Petit_Barde
January 23, 2020 11:03 am

Indeed, it appears to be a cover story for what perhaps she does suffer from. She has the symptoms of Foetal Alcohol Syndrome.

observa
January 22, 2020 2:33 am

Welcome to Greta’s brave new world with user pays for the EV recharge stations when we ICE owners have already paid for our recharge stations in the fuel prices-
https://thedriven.io/2020/01/20/norway-horrified-as-new-rates-make-ev-charging-prices-higher-than-petrol/
Running out of subsidies and not happy with coughing up trying to save the planet Greenies? Whatever happened to the warm inner glow and whatever it takes?

Otispunkmeyer
January 22, 2020 3:47 am

I just do not understand.

This is a 16/17 year old. When I was that age, I thought I knew it all. No one listened. Turns out I didn’t know it all and people were right to not listen. By that age you haven’t experienced enough and you haven’t learned enough and you haven’t understood enough for your thoughts and opinions to be taken seriously by anyone, anywhere.

So why are people falling over themselves to take the word of this girl? Makes no sense to me. Its irrelevant hot air.

I do like as well how her messages are all essentially finger pointing; “you”. Greta love, if you aren’t part of the solution, you’re part of the problem and from where I sit, you, travelling all over the world to point the finger at others makes you part of the problem.

Henning Nielsen
January 22, 2020 4:45 am

“The annual gathering kicked off Tuesday at the Swiss ski resort of Davos, the highest town in Europe.”

And why is it held there? To save the climate! Just imagine how much less the private jets need to climb from such an exalted location!

January 22, 2020 5:06 am

“Greta Thunberg Takes Her Message To Davos: ‘Our Emissions Have To Stop”

Maybe they do have to stop.
To keep from dissolving the sea floor with the ocean acidification of the Industrial Economy.

https://tambonthongchai.com/2020/01/22/fossil-fuel-emissions-dissolving-the-sea-floor/

observa
January 22, 2020 5:08 am

That rise in charger pricing in Norway is simple economics. Patient capital loss leads on expensive charger rollout to market build until such time as there’s mature demand and then they have to get a normal return on their investment and welcome to the new pricing. As well they’ve no doubt picked the low hanging fruit with charger location. Now more backup and ever more remote chargers means even higher capital investment per charge station and predictably more price rises in future. Either remote chargers are priced higher or they have a one price fits all regime and socialising their costs and prices like they have.

Also note the inevitable TOU pricing as the suppliers don’t want slow charging or no charging owners tying up their capital and keeping supercharge battery owners waiting. The consequence of that is to encourage supercharge battery cars which impacts battery longevity but that’s the economics tradeoff to try and balance out enough costly chargers everywhere. The upshot of it all is what a maturing EV market will look like for anyone contemplating an EV and how it’s going to be even more costly than oil in future. Why Toyota are going hybrid in the interim to meet emissions controls cost effectively with a wait and see approach.

Charging times and inconvenience were always the fly in the ointment for EVs other than slow home charging. Even there the night time off peak rates will have to disappear with only wind solar and water generation. As if the purchase price of EVs wasn’t bad enough the cat’s out of the bag with their running costs too and look to Norway now for a glimpse of their Green future.

Gerry, England
January 22, 2020 5:42 am

My thought on going zero emission is to tell St. Greta to f*ck off and show us how to do it then.

Andy Mansell
January 22, 2020 6:12 am

Just had my lunch ruined by some lunatic from XR on the radio supporting Greta and comparing Donald Trump to Pol Pot- without the slightest hint of a fact or explanation as to quite how we can survive without reliable energy if we were to go along with their insanity- the level of hysteria is of the scale now.

Sunny
Reply to  Andy Mansell
January 22, 2020 8:00 am

Andy Mansell

The massive amount of fossil fuel in telecommunications is mind blowing, the XR caller wouldn’t be able to do anything without fossil fuels, as even medicines are based around fossil fuels

beng135
Reply to  Andy Mansell
January 23, 2020 10:59 am

Andy, turning it off (or down) is the best way to react. Even while listening to conservative radio on my computer, I have to turn down the volume on commercials to prevent the endless liberal-kook assault on my senses.

Russell Johnson
January 22, 2020 6:24 am

Greta, you’ve become very tiresome and repetitive, I’m no longer willing to be entertained by your gestures and rhetoric. At first I enjoyed your portrayal of Linda Blair’s role in “The Exorcist”; your facial expressions and voice were fantastic! But all the doom and gloom over and over took all the fun out of your routine. You made another attempt by trying to imitate Dora the Explorer but it fell flat. Hey, with your career in decline lookout for those agents they’ll drop you in a second. Climate change hawker, gee next time try for a part based on a true story………

bonbon
January 22, 2020 7:55 am

President Trump at his very best :
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-world-economic-forum-davos-switzerland/
He took on the doomsayers, and referred to the Renaissance, and the Florentine Duomo :
“In Italy, the citizens once started construction on what would be a 140-year project, the Duomo of Florence. An incredible, incredible place. While the technology did not yet exist to complete their design, city fathers forged ahead anyway, certain that they would figure it out someday. These citizens of Florence did not accept limits to their high aspirations and so the Great Dome was finally built.”

Meanwhile ex-Bank-of-England Governor, now UN Special Envoy on Climate Action and Finance teamed up with BlackRock CEO Larry Fink, to seal the fate of the “carbon” economy – a final solution. Swiss bank UBS chimed in “to do it faster”.
While most ogle poor Greta, these financial masters of Carnage are deadly serious.

Olen
January 22, 2020 10:46 am

At a Swiss ski resort. Why not live it up while discussing something that is not happening.?!

More importantly why are adults listening to a child soon to be adult with limited education and experience. Except she is a way of avoiding proof and to get interest.

This is similar to the congress having actress testify about farming because she played in a movie about farming.

DaveS
January 22, 2020 10:51 am

I wish her verbal emissions would stop.

Ian Coleman
January 22, 2020 11:40 am

Speaking of the economics of electric vehicles, Observa, my understanding is that so far no manufacturer has sold a new electric vehicle for more money that it cost to make it. There is no electric vehicle business. It’s all just a very expensive vanity project.

The big, fat, honking lie we are currently being told is that Teslas are competitive with Cadillacs. No they’re not. Cadillacs are not being sold below cost. Also, Cadillacs can be driven anywhere without worries that they can’t be refuelled.

Steve Z
January 22, 2020 12:34 pm

[QUOTE FROM GRETA THUNDERMOUTH] “One year ago I came to Davos and told you that our house is on fire,” Thunberg said.

“Our house is still on fire,” the Swedish climate activist added. “Your inaction is fueling the flames by the hour.” [END QUOTE]

If Davos is the highest (altitude) town in Europe, in January it must be covered in snow. If a fire started anywhere in town, it could be quickly put out by the nearest diesel-powered snowplow.

By the way, there are probably (contained) fires burning in furnaces to keep the room warm in which Greta is speaking. If she really wants zero CO2 emissions, they should have turned off the furnaces last week and let Greta give her speech at ambient temperature in January in Davos. She’s from Sweden, so she should be used to the cold, if her own house is unheated.

By the way, January is not the normal growing season in the Swiss Alps. How much CO2 was emitted transporting food up there, which was grown elsewhere? Was Greta fasting while she was there?

Old Man Winter is a great (seasonal) remedy for global warming!

BC
January 22, 2020 4:25 pm

I couldn’t find information on the web about how Great got there. It was by train last year.

I looked up information on how much it costs to buy a ticket to the WEF. Here’s a 2011 article that explains it:
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/costs-of-davos-2011-1?r=US&IR=T
and also claims to know the real reason people attend the forum.

Here are the 2019 costs:
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/25/davos-2019-meet-the-unofficial-attendees-without-badges.html
No problem, if someone else is paying for it.

And there’s the $75 hamburger platter (how dare you!):
https://globalnews.ca/news/3979871/davos-wef-economy-rich-shops-afford-meal/
Again, no problem, if someone else is paying for it.

john
January 22, 2020 4:52 pm
Joseph Zorzin
January 23, 2020 4:36 am

I wouldn’t be surprised if when Greta grows up- and gets a college degree- she may change her tune. If she’s really all that intelligent she may finally take a serious look at why skeptics are skeptical- and perhaps she’ll be converted! 🙂 Then of course, she’ll be ignored by the MSM or slammed as having mental health issues.

The Butch
January 23, 2020 7:42 am

Grown men, listening to a dumb kid…

It doesn't add up...
January 23, 2020 10:57 am

I have seen it pointed out that Greta exhibits the symptoms of Foetal Alcohol Syndrome. It is an incurable condition. Sufferers have a much reduced life expectancy – typically only in their thirties. When she says we only have 12 years left she may be referring to her own expectation for herself. Of course, her parents may well feel guilt for her condition, and seek vicariously to make a short life leave a mark in compensation.

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