This is locally a well-known local flood zone, which is why there are no houses, but rather car parks. Indeed, the whole of that stretch of the Thames valley routinely floods each decade. I’m not sure what point Andrew Revkin thinks he is making here. https://www.google.com/maps/search/moat+house+reading/@51.4275697,-0.8985959,16z
The better question is what point is Anthony making by hosting the story? He is anti Tesla because of his cognitive bias. Could just as easily shown a flooded gas station.
Just like there might have been a clue in the name Fishlake before idiots built houses there and more idiots from the BBC went into hysteria when the area flooded and claimed it was climate change what done it. Duh!
Perhaps they though flooding was a thing of the past ever since President Obama slowed the oceans rising and healed the planet.
commieBob
December 22, 2019 2:41 pm
A flooded gas station, with water getting into the tanks, and fuel escaping to the environment, would actually be a problem.
As things stand, I can’t think of any other use that I would rather see temporarily flooded. For whatever reason, it makes me think of a derelict amusement park, maybe an abandoned Soviet amusement park. link How about an abandoned wind farm. link
commie:
Here in Pennsylvania buried tank specs were upgraded some years ago to the extent of using double-wall tanks constructed of fiberglass to minimize the prior steel tank corrosion. Leakage sensors, fluid/gas with Alarm Systems mandated.
Zoning and site assessments were also revised to avoid the problem you suggest and NO installation in Flood Plains is allowed. Drainage designs were also upgraded.
Except they couldn’t get their act together enough to put in a charging station, so it was just a flooded hockey arena with the name of a (now bankrupt) oil company on it.
Sara
December 22, 2019 2:57 pm
Priceless! That’s a Christmas gift I had not hoped to see.
Thank you!!!
Ubique
December 22, 2019 2:57 pm
Recharging available for electric boats and ships.
“This says so much… Flooded Tesla charging station in a floodplain that flooded in 2003”
It sure doesn’t say ‘smart’!
So, let us guess:
a) The land was cheap and available.
b) No one protested.
c) Neither Tesla nor their contractors bothered checking flood histories. Or they assumed endless droughts.
d) Permitting officials were fed stories about the power of virtue signals.
In certain types of floodplain only essential infrastructure is given planning permission. An EV charging station is obviously essential (to save the planet).
Michael Jankowski
December 22, 2019 3:56 pm
Must be due to extreme weather and sea level rise.
IMHO the climate debate is at a stalemate, and there has been and is nothing new that either side can point too. I view posts like this as necessary to keep people engaged. So, yea, it does serve a purpose.
engaged in what way? Revkin posted that it “says so much”, but he fails to say anything and sure, I’m slow, but I seriously cannot imagine what he thinks it says. Unless it’s really as brain-dead as “non-ideal situation ergo proof of catastrophic anthropogenic climate change”? How is this relevant to anything? Minor flooding in an area that routinely floods, means exactly…nothing.
…flooded in 2003… we found marine fossils in our back yard, yet we put in an EV charger. Been OK so far.
Probably they decided occasional shallow flooding was not a big problem. A quick Google search showed that the Wokingham site was powered up and available to use, something about isolated DC supplies. And probably awesome battery cooling.
Ah maybe Simon can ‘splain us what a flooded charging station says “so much” to an alarmist. Give me one last guess. Is it that it rains in England and that never used to happen?
What you say about the Tesla stock price may be true — for the time being. However, Enron’s stock price (remember them?) hit a high of around $90/share back in 2000. We all know how that ended, don’t we.
If and when Tesla goes under someday, it may not be for the same reason as Enron. But bad endings are still bad endings no matter how and why they happen. There are probably plenty of investors out there who probably get burned more often than they care to admit to with bad investment decisions.
And the Bitcoin is selling well above it’s 10-year average (and the Brooklyn Bridge can be had at a bargain), Simon. Just because there are fools willing to buy doesn’t mean the fundamentals of the company are in good shape. Musk is running out of accounting tricks and it’s only a matter of time before he runs out of OPM as well.
Tesla Net income:
2014: -294.04M
2015: -888.66M
2016:-674.91M
2017: -1.96B
2018: -976.09M
2019 (first 3 quarters so far:) -967.47M
Unless Tesla makes nearly a billion in net profit in the final quarter (and given their track record, I wouldn’t bet on them doing so), this year will be yet another annual loss for the company. That’s not the sign of a healthy company.
And, by the way, the red ink didn’t start in 2014, least you accuse me of cherry picking the data. Tesla has never post an annual profit that wasn’t a negative number in the entirety of it’s existence, as even CEO Elon Musk has publicly admitted “Tesla has never made an annual profit in the almost 15 years since we have existed”
If I had an electric car, I would want a potential re-charge station to be available
during an emergency. Perhaps there are others on higher ground nearby?
Other sorts of service facilities are taken out of use from time to time,
so while this does provide a bit of hilarity the temporary shutdown is not a big deal.
However, as the water goes away there will be a mess. What does one do with
fine sediment containing unknown chemicals?
Hope someone does a follow up on this. Please.
Stevek
December 22, 2019 6:01 pm
Tesla must be coming out with new electric powered boats.
UNGN
December 22, 2019 6:28 pm
It was about time for Elon to hold a press conference and announce a new Electric boat to take everyone’s minds off of the lack of profits in all of the other ventures.
Look! Squirrel!
Lee L
December 22, 2019 6:36 pm
I think it might be a case of
‘It’s an EMERGENCY people!!! We HAVE to start SOMEwhere!!’.
Лазо
December 22, 2019 8:58 pm
Tesla sells and powers canoes now? How forward thinking can Elon get!?!
That’s shocking!
Heh, beat me to it.
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I thought you were going to lead the re-volt. Your comment leaves me a bit flat.
He could not re-sist.
Get Woke, go Broke
Occurred in “Wokingham” UK of all places.
Perfect.
This has got me charged-up. Maybe I need to get grounded. Sorry to be so short.
Better to be grounded
Not a great place to go and soak up a few spare lee trans?
lee trans???
Electrons
Sorry didn’t make the connection.
spare lec trons ?
Autocorrect and hot post too fast to proof
lee trans = transitioned protons?
This is locally a well-known local flood zone, which is why there are no houses, but rather car parks. Indeed, the whole of that stretch of the Thames valley routinely floods each decade. I’m not sure what point Andrew Revkin thinks he is making here. https://www.google.com/maps/search/moat+house+reading/@51.4275697,-0.8985959,16z
I think he should be charged.
You’re just amping up the shock rhetoric.
or dishonorobly discharged?
What about surcharge after all he didn’t pull the plug.
It really hertz to see things like this.
Yep I think he should be shunted
Ohm my god, please stop with these silly puns.
Why ?have you posted the same response to every one else on this thread punning?
Fish says “Ohm my god, please stop with these silly puns.”
When I saw the post I was wondering- Watts up with that”.
I missed the ohm in fishes response, I apologise to fish ,
I think he is making the point that fools in a hurry do foolish things.
Not sur? Really? The stupity of the charger site comes to mind
Revkin is an alarmist, he wouldn’t be insulting Musk or anything he touches, that’s for sure.
Maybe he was lamenting the frequency of the CO2-induced flooding.
Even alarmists occasionally have to roll their eyes at the stupidity of those who otherwise are on their side.
The better question is what point is Anthony making by hosting the story? He is anti Tesla because of his cognitive bias. Could just as easily shown a flooded gas station.
Looks like it needs a new Ohm!
A new Ohm for the Resistance?
One man, one volt, is not adequate! More power to the resistance.
Things will heat up for sure!
With greater frequency.
+100, have you thought about volting by post? It can have positive effects on the negative side of those in charge…
I-on it
A lot of static on this string.
That’s one Theory anyway
Why would they put anything electric it a riverbed ???
It’s the natural flood plain for the River Loddon, floods around there most years
& there’s a clue in the name ‘Moat house’ !
Because it’s full of carbon neutral electric eels.
because AllGore told them electric cars will stop flooding
Just like there might have been a clue in the name Fishlake before idiots built houses there and more idiots from the BBC went into hysteria when the area flooded and claimed it was climate change what done it. Duh!
Perhaps they though flooding was a thing of the past ever since President Obama slowed the oceans rising and healed the planet.
A flooded gas station, with water getting into the tanks, and fuel escaping to the environment, would actually be a problem.
As things stand, I can’t think of any other use that I would rather see temporarily flooded. For whatever reason, it makes me think of a derelict amusement park, maybe an abandoned Soviet amusement park. link How about an abandoned wind farm. link
commie:
Here in Pennsylvania buried tank specs were upgraded some years ago to the extent of using double-wall tanks constructed of fiberglass to minimize the prior steel tank corrosion. Leakage sensors, fluid/gas with Alarm Systems mandated.
Zoning and site assessments were also revised to avoid the problem you suggest and NO installation in Flood Plains is allowed. Drainage designs were also upgraded.
Made me think of downtown Calgary.
Except they couldn’t get their act together enough to put in a charging station, so it was just a flooded hockey arena with the name of a (now bankrupt) oil company on it.
Priceless! That’s a Christmas gift I had not hoped to see.
Thank you!!!
Recharging available for electric boats and ships.
An electric moat, great idea.
It sure doesn’t say ‘smart’!
So, let us guess:
a) The land was cheap and available.
b) No one protested.
c) Neither Tesla nor their contractors bothered checking flood histories. Or they assumed endless droughts.
d) Permitting officials were fed stories about the power of virtue signals.
ATheoK..….
It may not SAY ‘smart’ but it very likely WILL smart if you ‘virtue signal’ here!
Shocking.
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Isn’t a location that floods frequently the appropriate place to put a non-essential service?
SR
A better use would be to plant a paddy of G.M. Golden Rice.
CAGW hasn’t raised the temperature enough to make Golden Rice viable in that location, yet. Maybe after 2100, or 2300 or…
2600, if Krushkova’s solar theory is correct.
In certain types of floodplain only essential infrastructure is given planning permission. An EV charging station is obviously essential (to save the planet).
Must be due to extreme weather and sea level rise.
And the inevitable depredations of Brexit causing the Thames to back up I suppose.
Perfect…… Just Perfect!
It’s a perfectly reasonable picture of an insurance farm.. part of the new Green Economy.
Claims that it might be otherwise are groundless.
Besides, many people have made down payment on the new Tesla Moatal 3 ( for which the farm was designed).
They wont be parking many volts wagons there
What exactly is it supposed to say? All it says to me is incompetent fools put a charging station in a known flood-prone area.
Tesla’s investment is under water?
I give up. I guess I don’t understand the mind of an alarmist after all.
Its supposed to say “CURRENTly unavailable “
“What exactly is it supposed to say? “
IMHO the climate debate is at a stalemate, and there has been and is nothing new that either side can point too. I view posts like this as necessary to keep people engaged. So, yea, it does serve a purpose.
engaged in what way? Revkin posted that it “says so much”, but he fails to say anything and sure, I’m slow, but I seriously cannot imagine what he thinks it says. Unless it’s really as brain-dead as “non-ideal situation ergo proof of catastrophic anthropogenic climate change”? How is this relevant to anything? Minor flooding in an area that routinely floods, means exactly…nothing.
“What exactly is it supposed to say? All it says to me is incompetent fools put a charging station in a known flood-prone area.” — Rich Davis
That’s all it needs to say.
…flooded in 2003… we found marine fossils in our back yard, yet we put in an EV charger. Been OK so far.
Probably they decided occasional shallow flooding was not a big problem. A quick Google search showed that the Wokingham site was powered up and available to use, something about isolated DC supplies. And probably awesome battery cooling.
Ahhhh…. so THAT’s why that land was so cheap.
Last holiday it was lines of Teslas waiting to be recharged. Now this. Tesla seems to have a battery of problems.
Meanwhile Tesla’s share price is at an all time high….
You sound as if you are a man who would by my South Sea shares or if not I have some tulip futures that may interest you.
Does that make the field not flooded?
Ah maybe Simon can ‘splain us what a flooded charging station says “so much” to an alarmist. Give me one last guess. Is it that it rains in England and that never used to happen?
@Simon:
What you say about the Tesla stock price may be true — for the time being. However, Enron’s stock price (remember them?) hit a high of around $90/share back in 2000. We all know how that ended, don’t we.
https://tinyurl.com/uu7vfzj
If and when Tesla goes under someday, it may not be for the same reason as Enron. But bad endings are still bad endings no matter how and why they happen. There are probably plenty of investors out there who probably get burned more often than they care to admit to with bad investment decisions.
https://tinyurl.com/uu7vfzj
And the Bitcoin is selling well above it’s 10-year average (and the Brooklyn Bridge can be had at a bargain), Simon. Just because there are fools willing to buy doesn’t mean the fundamentals of the company are in good shape. Musk is running out of accounting tricks and it’s only a matter of time before he runs out of OPM as well.
Tesla Net income:
2014: -294.04M
2015: -888.66M
2016:-674.91M
2017: -1.96B
2018: -976.09M
2019 (first 3 quarters so far:) -967.47M
Unless Tesla makes nearly a billion in net profit in the final quarter (and given their track record, I wouldn’t bet on them doing so), this year will be yet another annual loss for the company. That’s not the sign of a healthy company.
And, by the way, the red ink didn’t start in 2014, least you accuse me of cherry picking the data. Tesla has never post an annual profit that wasn’t a negative number in the entirety of it’s existence, as even CEO Elon Musk has publicly admitted “Tesla has never made an annual profit in the almost 15 years since we have existed”
A rising tide lifts all boats.
But sinks a Tesla…
Great place for Invader Housing.
yeah supply zodiacs and a puptent
If I had an electric car, I would want a potential re-charge station to be available
during an emergency. Perhaps there are others on higher ground nearby?
Other sorts of service facilities are taken out of use from time to time,
so while this does provide a bit of hilarity the temporary shutdown is not a big deal.
However, as the water goes away there will be a mess. What does one do with
fine sediment containing unknown chemicals?
Hope someone does a follow up on this. Please.
Tesla must be coming out with new electric powered boats.
It was about time for Elon to hold a press conference and announce a new Electric boat to take everyone’s minds off of the lack of profits in all of the other ventures.
Look! Squirrel!
I think it might be a case of
‘It’s an EMERGENCY people!!! We HAVE to start SOMEwhere!!’.
Tesla sells and powers canoes now? How forward thinking can Elon get!?!