Promoters of Climate Anxiety

From The Cliff Mass Weather and Climate Blog

There is a special place in the underworld for those who promote anxiety, desperation, and terror in the most vulnerable.  A place where the infernal warmth is particularly torrid.

And one does not have to spend much time looking for candidates for this netherworld–the front page of the Seattle Times will do fine.
On Sunday, our local tabloid featured a story about fearful/desperate folks dealing with their apocalyptic fears about climate change.

Courtesy of the Seattle Times

A forest burning behind them. And if that didn’t get the message across, a burning world/head within the article made it clear.

Courtesy of the Seattle Times

Among certain vulnerable people in our region, talk of eco-grief and anxiety has become signs of psychological crises. The UW Bothell has entire class given over to eco-grief, and non-profits like Climate Action Families have sessions for folks that are paralyzed with fear and grief over climate change.  Some local Seattle therapists are specializing in climate grief therapy, and even the UW has sessions for students:

Unbelievably, even the Pacific Science Center is doing a session on dealing with eco-anxiety (see below).
But why stop at the borders of Seattle?   Major media from the Guardian to the NY Times are covering climate anxiety, with anxiety-racked climate stars like Greta Thunberg are tearfully describing how their dreams and their childhood have been stolen by climate change.

I have gotten so many calls and emails from desperate folks I can’t list them here.  One woman tearfully told me her mother was desperately ill in California, but she couldn’t move to be with her because she was afraid of the effects of climate change in that state.  Another woman called, terribly worried about fires in western Washington from global warming.  A few others asked about where they should move to escape our local apocalyptical conditions.
Global warming is a very serious issue, but most of the impacts are in the future.  There is much we can do to address global warming, both in terms of adaptation and mitigation. There is, in fact, much reason for optimism.

So why are all these people so anxiety-ridden and desperate?   I believe it is the unconscionable exaggeration, hype, and fear-mongering of our media, special interest groups, some activist scientists, and a number of politicians.  And it is unethical, ungrounded in science, and hurting the most vulnerable among us.
The Seattle Times is one of the worst offenders.  I can provide a few dozen example of fear-mongering headlines, completely adrift from the truth.  Like the June story claiming heat waves will claim hundreds of lives (actually 725) for each heat wave later in century (see below).  It was complete nonsense, with extreme assumptions about warming rates and assuming no one would buy an air conditioner.

By the way, the stories in the Seattle Times are so confused, they can’t event get the key facts right, with one claiming carbon monoxide, not carbon dioxide is the problem (I kid you not, proof below).

So the Seattle Times is both producing exaggerated, fear-inducing stories and covering the psychological damage those stories are creating.  Is there something wrong here?
Stories in a number of media outlets, amplified by special interest groups, talk about “tipping points”, and that it will be too late in 1, 10 or 12 years.  No hope after that.  Unfounded in the science.  And enough to push some emotionally sensitive people over the edge.

Here in the Washington State there are claims that recent fires are the result of climate change, and that it is about to get even worse.  The truth is very different– there used to be MANY more wildfires in our region and the relationship of our fires with climate variations is very weak.  But that hasn’t stopped irresponsible politicians from claiming just the opposite.
And, of course, there is all this talk about existential threats (yes, the means threats to your EXISTENCE), which have no support in the reports of the international scientific community (the IPCC) or the U.S. Climate Assessment.  They predict a minor reduction in the future GDP, no more.

I could do ten blogs on this topic, but I won’t.  The truth is that some very irresponsible folks are hyping and exaggerating the impacts of the minor global warming we have had so far, sending vulnerable folks into a panic.   And these irresponsible folks and individuals are painting an apocalyptic view of the future that is completely at odds with the best science.  Some do it for more money (advertising clicks), some do it for political reasons, and others like the attention.
But it is just wrong, and the harm they are doing to members of our community is substantial and unconscionable.


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December 11, 2019 6:24 am

I wonder what the therapist tells the patient? Are they fully qualified in weather sciences? Or the sun/solar rays, solar cycles? Are they educated on past weather systems?

Some local Seattle therapists are specializing in climate grief therapy, and even the UW has sessions for students 😐

The thames is high today, which is normal and almost a day thing, yet a neighbour was walking her dog by the river, and when she saw me she said ” the thames has never been this high, they haven’t even issued a flood warning” 😐 then she finished with “its global warming” 😐

Reply to  Sunny
December 11, 2019 8:11 am

“Psychological crises” are fashionable. What quicker way to get the necessary “victim” cred with your leftist peers than to fabricate a mental illness caused by Fake News? Instant popularity, lots of attention from leftist rags like this and the Grauniad. Which is what they live for, of course.

The fact that none of it’s real is entirely beside the point. Susceptible souls have been driven to madness by boogeymen under the bed for millennia.

Bryan A
Reply to  Goldrider
December 11, 2019 10:11 am

Apparently we have just 10 years to avert the Psychological Damages that the current Climate Hysteria will induce if allowed to continue. This is a true tipping point where the World Populace will tip into absolute Neurosis and be Irreparably damaged.

December 11, 2019 6:34 am

I admire people who are confident enough to act on their convictions. Ms. Thunberg’s assertiveness on this issue should be respected while we try to cure her ignorance.

I agree, wholeheartedly, that those who use mentally weak or ignorant people as pawns are reprehensible. Someone is taking Ms. Thunberg’s childhood. The problem is she blames the wrong group. Rather than blaming modern society, she should blame her parents. Tantamount to child abuse.

‘Live in Charleston, SC. NOAA tide station in our harbor shows ~3mm/yr with no acceleration since about 1900.

Adam Gallon
Reply to  CarolinaConservative
December 11, 2019 10:13 am

Saint Greta, is an abused, mentally disturbed child.

John Garrett
December 11, 2019 6:37 am

“Never appeal to a man’s conscience. He might not have one.”
-Robert A. Heinlein
The Notebooks of Lazarus Long
Time Enough For Love

December 11, 2019 6:37 am

Well lets see, if you were in Sydney right now you’d be worried about the effects of climate change, because the air outside would likely be hazardous to breathe, due to 89 fires raging through your state…

and you’d know the nation was again suffering drought, there was no rain in sight and a heatwave was coming (and all this just at the start of summer).

and you’d be pretty clear this wasn’t a normal event and that climate change was the driving factor. Because when rainforest is burning in Queensland, it isn’t normal.

So – perhaps someone would like to address some real climate concerns on this website?

Old England
Reply to  griff
December 11, 2019 7:58 am

ABC and Australian scientists now recognise these have nothing to do with climate and everything to do with “Green” environment management policies.

So there you go, your climate argument trashed.

Reply to  griff
December 11, 2019 7:59 am

Not normal from your limited, ignorant perspective, but historically, droughts and wildfires are part of normal Australian climate.

Reply to  griff
December 11, 2019 8:11 am

If you were in Sydney now Griff, you would be saying –
“Crikey! We haven’t had smoke this thick since, oh, 1994”
(I was living there then. And back in 1988, I had to reassure a tourist in Nth Qld that the bushfires in the coastal bushland (rainforest) were a cyclic event)
You should stop reading The Guardian Griff, it can’t be good for anyone’s anxiety levels.

Reply to  griff
December 11, 2019 8:16 am


and you’d be pretty clear this wasn’t a normal event and that climate change was the driving factor. Because when rainforest is burning in Queensland, it isn’t normal.

For once you state something that’s actually true!

You’re right, it’s not normal that people go around deliberately setting fires. One, a 19 year old volunteer firefighter was caught doing it.

Or didn’t you catch that particular piece of news on the BBC?

Maybe you just ignored it, deliberately

Tom Foley
Reply to  HotScot
December 11, 2019 1:02 pm

I’ve just travelled from drought in western NSW to smoke in SE Qld. Have not seen the sun since I got here three days ago and it’s apparently been like this for weeks. Extreme in both areas.

It is normal for some people to deliberately set fires. It is normal to have fire prone vegetation in Australia, certainly since before Europeans arrived. It is normal for governments to underfund and not do enough control burning and hazard reduction. What is not normal, even for our highly variable climate, is the lack of rain in these areas. If SE Qld had been ‘normal’ , it would have been too wet to start a big fire even by the most dedicated teenage arsonist.

And now we’re told to expect warmer than average temperatures over summer and no rain likely in the east before April, due to the strength of the Indian Ocean Dipole.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Tom Foley
December 11, 2019 9:42 pm

You didn’t define what is normal. Care to do that?

Tom Foley
Reply to  Patrick MJD
December 12, 2019 3:22 am

I used the word normal because it was used in the posts I was responding to. I could have put it in inverted commas; however the style of my post made it clear, I thought, why I was using it.

So what’s ‘normal’? Average? Ordinary? Accepted behaviour? A standard or ‘norm’ against which things are judged? None of those really apply.

Deliberately lighting fires is part of human behaviour. It’s acceptable to deliberately set fires in household fireplaces, BBQ’s, industrial furnaces and kilns, and for hazard reduction and back burning. It’s not acceptable, and so against the law, to deliberately set fires to burn down houses or start bushfires. So it’s ‘normal’ for people to set fires; the context and purpose determine whether it’s acceptable, legal or illegal.

I don’t think I need to go through a similar analysis for the other points. Just to summarise: there a lot of causes of bushfires, basic (the nature of the vegetation), intermediate (prior weather, state of fuel build-up, lack of hazard reduction etc) through to final ignition trigger (lightning, accidental or deliberate human action). The effect of the ignition trigger will depend on the state of the prior causes. Singling out arsonists as ‘the cause’ avoids addressing all the more fundamental ones, and considering whether climate change may also be contributing.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Patrick MJD
December 12, 2019 3:43 am

It has been “normalised” in the media. Stop the coverage, you stop the fires started by these types. Fire starters are attention, thrill, seekers. Give them what they want, they will keep burning.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Tom Foley
December 11, 2019 10:07 pm

“Tom Foley December 11, 2019 at 1:02 pm

It is normal for some people to deliberately set fires.”

It is not normal, it is usual. These people, most of them known to authorities, need to be locked up during fire season. Stop apologising for devastating criminal behaviour.

Tom Foley
Reply to  Patrick MJD
December 12, 2019 3:27 am

I wasn’t apologising. I was just pointing out that there have always been arsonists, that’s part of ‘normal’ human experience. But the effect they have in starting serious bushfires depends on all the other factors. Yes, send them to jail. There will still be fires and we need to address all the other factors.

Reply to  griff
December 11, 2019 8:25 am

Well, Sydney isn’t in Queensland, and the NSW firefighters say that the fires are due to a build up of undergrowth, and definately not due to climate change.

Tom Foley
Reply to  Oldseadog
December 12, 2019 3:41 am

The build-up of the undergrowth is due to lack of hazard reduction, which is due to lack of sufficient money and staff (big cutbacks in NSW over last 5 years or so), poor management, and lack of suitable weather to do so. These are not affected to climate change, except maybe the latter.

The dryness of the undergrowth is presumably due to the lack of rain; the question is whether climate change is a factor in that.

So you are half right. But too soon to be so definite that climate change has no effect.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  griff
December 11, 2019 9:07 am

Oh, Griffie-poo, shut up. You are like a broken record, with your astro-turf ready-made lies attempting to connect weather with climate. At least get some new material.

Reply to  griff
December 11, 2019 9:20 am


perhaps someone would like to address some real climate concerns on this website?

So, than you may start this thread, but forgett what you wrote from your beginning here ’til now ! 😀
What ever you wrote here, climate, Berlin, Germany, windmills, “new” energies was pure fantasy.

Reply to  griff
December 11, 2019 10:36 am


Give me a break. Learn from California. The actual professionals in forest management and forest fire suppression know the cause. The Australians have finally admitted the real problem. It’s not climate change.

Have you ever engaged in complex thinking? Or is it all just reflexive to you.

John in Oz
Reply to  griff
December 11, 2019 2:20 pm


You say:

rainforest is burning in Queensland, it isn’t normal

I offer as rebuttal:

From Trove (hence the poor transcription from the newspaper)
Cairns Post 18 Dec 1936

Take our own district for instan
every year the hillsides around Caii
are ravaged by fires. Fifteen ye¡
ago the ranges to the north and wi
were clothed with beautiful tropii
; now they are covered i
the most part with lantana, and Or
a few gaunt sticks remain of the pr
luxurious growth of timber. Each y<
the ires encroach still further on t
scrub, ano! before very long there w
be none left, at all.

Reply to  John in Oz
December 11, 2019 4:47 pm

Good find, John.
It was near Cairns that I had to counsel the tourist that was having conniptions over a coastal rainforest bushfire back in 1988.

(That event was however “unprecedented”, in that I had never before had to calm down a tourist over a bushfire that was nowhere near her 🙂

Patrick MJD
Reply to  griff
December 11, 2019 9:30 pm

“griff December 11, 2019 at 6:37 am

Well lets see, if you were in Sydney right now…”

Yes, as a matter of fact I am, and your post is complete tosh as usual. It has been smoky, so?

Those “89” fires you talk of, 87% were started by, mostly, arsonists. 7 fires started by a “Firey” who has been charged with the offence. Where do you get you info from Griff?

Tom Foley
Reply to  Patrick MJD
December 12, 2019 3:51 am

Of the 87% caused by human action, it has been reported that 47% were assessed as being accidental and 40% deliberate.

That’s still a lot of arson, but even more carelessness, and both aspects need to be addressed. So do the underlying factors that make it easy for human carelessness and arson to be so damaging.

December 11, 2019 6:43 am

Cliff is a treasure in the PNW. His forecasts are informative and pretty accurate. And he’s not part of the talking head, regurgitating media cabal. He’s really kicking the Progressive Climate Hysteria machine in the teeth with this post. Go Cliff!

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  JeffB
December 11, 2019 7:35 am

He’s like Roger Pielke, Jr. though. Cliff’s a True Believer in the climate pseudoscience of climate model projections, just not the 10-years-to-doom alarmist crap. He can’t let go of his bought-in position that climate change is serious and something we need destroy civilization over, a position that is as utterly wrong as is the doomster “we’re gonna die” stuff.

Maybe when half of humanity is starving and at war with each other over the removal of fossil fuel provided foods and energy will he see what was in-front of his eyes all along. That is the real danger of calamity in 10-12 years, a self-inflicting from climate change policy, not climate change itself.

The climate change alarmist narrative is nothing more than a Malthusian trap set by the Globalists to bring about the very thing the say they are trying to avoid. Never trust what they say, look at their actions. The Left’s outcomes and actions informs the objective, rational person what is really happening… that Road to Hell thing of climate virtue. It’s pure Mr Hyde evil from the Left.

December 11, 2019 6:54 am

Just point out to these pathetic bedwetters that there was a Global Cooling scare in the 1970’s. Without exception, ALL the environmental panics have been disproven (DDT, pollution, ozone hole, overpopulation etc etc). CAGW is next in line.

Bob Hoye
December 11, 2019 7:03 am

Help, there are more and more paranoids and they are after me!

Mike Bromley
December 11, 2019 7:04 am

Well, Greta is Person of the Year now, so I want you to panic. Your house is on fire. How dare you question the orthodoxymoron.

Reply to  Mike Bromley
December 11, 2019 8:03 am

That would be Time Magazine person of the year, which is equivalent to MAD Magazine person of the year.

Reply to  icisil
December 11, 2019 1:25 pm

MAD Magazine’s Person of the Year is Alfred E. Neuman, every year.
Can the sadly-abused Swede match that?


Reply to  icisil
December 11, 2019 1:26 pm

Check 1938.

Reply to  Mike Bromley
December 11, 2019 11:53 am

Here is Andrew Bolt – Sky News about Greta’s anxiety and child abuse:

Joel O'Bryan
December 11, 2019 7:22 am

One thing that is clear about human neuro-psych/brain organization is there tends to be two types of normal “sane” people. One type are Emotional-empaths that feel their own and others’ emotions around them. Then there are more reasonable, logic based, less prone to emotional controls. Often these are tied to female vs male grouping stereotypes, but that stereotype frequently fails at the individual level.

StarTrek’s Gene Roddenberry captured this dichotomy with his Mr Spock and Dr McCoy characters always at Capt Kirk’s side, trying to use both to help him navigate some impossible alien trap.
Even before that, the 19th century novella Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde by Robert Lewis Stevenson captures this dichotomy of schizophrenia in one insane murderous evil person, Mr Hyde, who had periods of sanity as Dr Jekyll.

That the media plies on the fears and emotions of the emotional half of humanity is nothing new. They need to sell newspapers in a rapidly dying business model.

Where the saner half of humanity needs to push back is calling out this junk climate science and the alarmist crap, which many do here everyday at WUWT. But the scientists who sit on the sidelines and say nothing are now as much to blame as those carnival barkers pushing doomsterism. In this regard, Cliff has come to his senses about why there is this doomster narrative. The Leftist idiot-manipulators in his University department are ostracizing him for it.
Of course we find one political party here in the US that has latched onto this doomsterism as a path to more power. The use of emotions in emotion-prone people is their pathway to ever greater political power. And whatever lies they need to tell now, the media is letting them do it, because many there have succumbed as well to the mental disorder of doomsterism.

On a similar topic note: I see that Time has named Greta Thunberg their 2019 Person of the Year. No Shock. Mentally-deficient and manipulated Greta is just more Green doomsterism cloaked around socialist authoritarianism. The perfect watermelon.

Joe Gordon
December 11, 2019 7:26 am

I have the same anxiety about this movement that I had growing up. It’s these massive numbers of people who BELIEVE, absent of any evidence. Back in the day, it was the church. Fortunately, they were barred from setting up shop in classrooms and somehow, we learned about radical ideas like the scientific method.

What’s especially worrisome about the climate movement is that its leaders learned from the church’s failures. The battles were won on school boards and in college teacher education. Kids today don’t learn science anymore, they get year after year of climate propaganda. They have been thoroughly indoctrinated into the faith.

Sadly, there’s nothing we can do about it. Just a matter of time before blogs like this are banned from the internet as heresy. We are entering a new theocracy. And, like the dark ages centuries ago, it’s being led by the young. Greta should be the object of near-constant satire and ridicule. I’m afraid she will soon be sec-gen of the UN, controlled masterfully by her puppeteers.

Reply to  Joe Gordon
December 11, 2019 10:14 am

Joe–not to worry. It has been demonstrated over and over again what happens to “cultists” who drink too much coolaid. And, I would mention that there is coming climate change that could be “existential” danger to the species. Mile thick ice over Chicago, NYC, and much of northern Eurasia would not be the best of times.

December 11, 2019 7:31 am

Highlights one more special interest group that profits from the Climate Scare – counsellors and psychologists specializing in climate grief therapy.

December 11, 2019 7:43 am

Something I’ve recently noticed is that Climate Doomers are starting to freely admit that they are mentally ill, to some degree or another (I’m serious; I’m reading an article right now to that effect –

What surprised me (and doesn’t surprise me because I’ve studied this sh!t for ages) is that they externalize their mental illness. In other words, they justify their mental illness on the grounds that climate change caused it; rather than embracing the more realistic conclusion that their mental illness found full expression in climate change mythology. Again, in other words, mental illness is a rational response to climate change, in their minds. And again, in other words, they blame their mental illness on something external to themselves, rather than taking full responsibility for it themselves, which is the only way to escape mental illness.

Reply to  icisil
December 11, 2019 8:23 am

I’ve seen that same phenomenon in action on pet and equine forums, icisil. Mostly inhabited by unemployed, probably depressive older women, they focus on every sad story, every trailer wreck, every broken leg on a racetrack anyone can possibly post. I call it “cruelty porn.” They can’t get enough of it, and they’re meaner than catsh** to those who roll their eyes at the fake mourning hyperbole. Half the stuff isn’t even real–it’s someone’s GoFundMe scam or PETA agitprop, flamboyantly deepfaked. But the point is to service their chemical bummer-trip with real-world justification: “See? Of COURSE I’m depressed–the WHOLE WORLD is a bonfire of evil and cruelty to helpless creatures like ME!” “Climate change,” whether or not imaginary, is as good a reason as any.

The same people are generally true believers in miracle cures via essential oils, vegetable capsules, and Gwyneth Paltrow’s Goop.

Joe Campbell
Reply to  icisil
December 11, 2019 8:27 am

icisil: I tried and tried to read the article to which you pointed in your comment above. I couldn’t make it through. My impression: The writer of that article is a person – it’s still PC-OK to say “person” isn’t it? – a person who doesn’t have enough to do. Jeez…

Reply to  Joe Campbell
December 11, 2019 9:26 am

It’s taken me a few passes to get through and fully process it, but I tell you, there’s some real self-honesty out there that really impresses me. Those poor folks have had their minds scrambled by leftist, progressive education and popular culture, so they come by there problems honestly, so to speak. But for their own sakes they need to realize who seduced and manipulated their minds into believing the crap they do and direct their wrath towards them… if they want to be healed.

Reply to  Joe Campbell
December 11, 2019 12:16 pm

Like they say, diarrhea of the pen is constipation of the mind…

John Cherry
Reply to  icisil
December 11, 2019 10:03 am

All human beings suffer from existential anxiety and emotional conflict as part of the human condition. One response, which is common, is to project these perfectly valid fears onto an external issue, such as symptoms of illness (hypochondriacal anxiety). I have noticed over the last thirty years or so that in our society, it has become very common to project onto social issues, conservation issues, green issues and real or imagined impending global catastrophe (eg Creutzfeld Jakob disease, AIDS, climate catastrophe.) So frequent is this today that people describe their job as “activist” or “campaigner”, something which would have got a big laugh back in the fifties.

The point, I think, is this. If the object of projection is proved false or less serious than they believe, these people will not be relieved but will suffer intolerable anxiety which they are forced to re-internalise. I believe this is the real reason why campaigning climate alarmists react with visceral anger to any attempt to discuss genuine scientific assessments which contradict theirs, rather than reacting with interest and dialogue. The alarmist would unconsciously be disappointed, nay, injured psychologically, if her arguments proved to be wrong.

This is not to say that there is no problem over emissions, but is an attempt to explain some if the surprising aspects of the public discussion.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  icisil
December 11, 2019 10:08 am

I think to some extent they wear their climate neuroses like a badge of honor. It shows how much they “care”, gives them “victim” status, and allows them to position themselves as “martyrs for the Cause”. Honest-to-God, I wouldn’t be surprised if some of them started committing suicide for the “Cause”.

December 11, 2019 7:44 am

This is all by design. Scared people are easier to manipulate.

December 11, 2019 7:59 am

Climate Anxiety Syndrome (CAS)? Will it get this official name, I wonder.

I can see it now: a great outpouring of self-help books to guide those suffering souls.

Advice will be:
stop driving
turn down your heat to bare survival level
eat less food to achieve underweight status, so you don’t need as much AC in warmer weather
stop eating meat
avoid sex at all costs, for fear of pregnancy’s bringing more humans into the world
avoid long trips, even on public transportation

and if none of this helps, then just do the world a favor and off yourself.

… sage advice.

Maybe CLS would be better — “Climate Lunacy Syndrome”

Old England
December 11, 2019 8:07 am

1850 was during the Little Ice Age with temperatures 2C and more COLDER than “normal”. Yet IPCC want to keep earth at 1.5C above 1850 – still within LIA temperature range.

No mention of that in IPCC Summary for Policy Makers, nor do they explain why we should fear the benign temperatures of Medieval, Roman or Minoan Warm Periods – respectively 1C, 2C and 3C Hotter than present.

Too many Very Inconvenient Facts that IPCC and climate “scientists” choose to ignore.

steve case
December 11, 2019 8:27 am

“special interest groups, talk about “tipping points”…”

If there’s a tipping point, it’s this: Climate Change has reached “Too Big To Fail” status.

December 11, 2019 8:28 am

“There is a special place in the underworld for those who promote anxiety, desperation, and terror in the most vulnerable. A place where the infernal warmth is particularly torrid.”

Note that in Dante’s Inferno, the deepest level was the coldest.

Steve Z
December 11, 2019 8:33 am

What will Greta Thunberg be doing when she is 30 years old, circa 2033, after another 14 years of “business as usual” with people burning fossil fuels as much as now, the global climate maybe 0.1 C warmer, and the world hasn’t ended, Miami and New York and Stockholm and Tuvalu are still above water, about the same number of storms and droughts as now, there is still ice on Antarctica, Greenland, and the Arctic Ocean, and 8 billion people have enough food to eat?

Will she come out and admit she was wrong? Will she look around at all her friends from high school, who have graduated with well-paying jobs, possibly married and having children, and wonder why she wasted her youth as a “prophet” of doom which never came? Will she blame those who manipulated her into screaming at the United Nations for stealing her childhood and youth and dreams? Or will she use the money she made from scaremongering to sail off into quiet oblivion on her yacht, to dodge the criticism?

Future questions for the Girl Who Cried Wolf…

Reply to  Steve Z
December 11, 2019 9:59 am

The last thing we need is a fanatical, autistic teenager to lecture us.

Reply to  Steve Z
December 11, 2019 11:13 am

“Will she look around at all her friends …?”

The poor thing has no school friends … that’s one reason she doesn’t go to school.

As she grows the only ‘friends’ she will have are those that want something from her.

Picture her, now or in the future, reaching out to someone and saying “hey, you want to come over and hang out?” (I can’t envision it)

She grew up in a family that does not substantially contribute anything to society, and they live well. She is coherent enough to recognize this in some form or another, and she can’t reconcile the guilt. Her only salvation would be recognition that she/her family/her type are not superior to any one else.

Reply to  Steve Z
December 11, 2019 1:05 pm

Steve Z

She is on Time magazine front cover 😐 She and her family have probably made enough money to have a very comfortable life..

I would greatly appreciate if somebody could find out her finances and her parents .. Greta may be repetitive and vastly uneducated, but I’m sure she had made sure she is paid for words (the same four words)

Reply to  Sunny
December 11, 2019 2:12 pm

I would greatly appreciate if somebody could find out her finances and her parents ..

I’m pretty sure that tax returns in Sweden are available for public consultation.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Steve Z
December 11, 2019 9:44 pm

Personally, I don’t think she will get to be 30.

December 11, 2019 8:34 am

Considering the “cure” for gender dyphoria is hormones and mutilation, the “cure” for climate anxiety is likely to be a return of emotion-blunting lobotomies. Covered by “medicare-for-all”, of course.

Reply to  Sheri
December 11, 2019 12:10 pm

No doubt this ‘remedy’ will be instituted.

However, psychiatry is yet to realize its limitations –
they can’t cure stupid.

Gary Pearse
December 11, 2019 8:34 am

Unfortunately psychotherapists have become enablers. They are all-in on the ‘science’ of global warming. I don’t think there are any exceptions. I suppose if there are exceptions, they would not be acceptable to our propagandized, dumbed down citizens.

During the well-known “Climate Blues” of a decade ago because of the dreaded “Pause” in temperature rise, a significant number of climate scientists (I think for some reason the illness was particularly rife among Australian climate scientists) were struck with this career ending depressive illness. Therapists bought into their patients’ rationalization (a psyche denial mechanism!) in which they said they were sick because of their failure to convince people of the looming disaster that they could see in their research everyday.

Now it has been spread through K- Grad school ‘education’, news media, activists… to the general population. It’s important for parents and grandparents to protect their children from this political evil by discussion of the subject and allaying these empty fears.

Hokey Schtick
December 11, 2019 9:38 am

It’s your human right to be a victim now, and if you don’t fit into one of the convenient pre-approved groups, well you can just make up your own. Once you worked out what you are anxious about, it is most inconsiderate, no scratch that, it’s bullying to not take it seriously and grant that person anything they want, because of the condition. So climate. Gosh climate is offensive. And because it’s so offensive, I’ve decided to I have Climate Anxiety. You better take note of that and treat me very specially, otherwise that will be bullying. Whatever you do, don’t take my Anxiety away from me, because it’s what gives my life meaning and makes me special. If you take away my victimhood, I am nothing. Meanwhile, carbon!

Ira Edwards
December 11, 2019 9:56 am

Greta is a victim of climate anxiety. She is courageous and admirable, but her parents and handlers are not.
No child should be used this way, but Greta is subject to further emotional crises.
I am amazed that so many, both admirers and detractors, can be so insensitive.

December 11, 2019 9:58 am

Thunberg is person of the year. Another reason why I stopped reading TIME a long time ago. What virtue signalling lunacy. I listened to her rant at the UN and it reminded me that in totalitarian states, children are often the most fanatical believers.

December 11, 2019 11:32 am

I think I suffer from CCPA ( Climate Change Policy Anxiety) . I wake up at night worried about what stupid policies our politicians have made, that Donald Trump loses power, that no matter what happens the UK has zero emissions targets, that the power will go off and never come back on, that the food in the fridge will spoil , that I can’t fill up my car because there are no service stations only charging stations, that my superannuation is used solely to pay my electricity bill, that the Chinese come and take over my country because being allowed to continue with emissions the western world has become too weak economically to defend itself. That everyone other than a small number of like minded people have actually gone mad This to me is my reality and it causes arguments with family and friends, it causes me to wake up at night screaming, I’ve become shy and reserved afraid to say what I really think because I think that people will think I’m a bad person because I don’t believe that climate change / and global warming is real, I feel like it’s Groundhog Day so that one day the news tells me that this was the worst ever, or the hottest ever or the most fierce or driest or wettest or windiest or coldest or snowiest or whateverest and its my fault cause I drive a car and watch television and have the air conditioning on and like a warm shower and use a computer and use a fridge and then the next day, the news is the same. I can’t escape it , I change the channel the news is the same.
I think I need to visit a shrink!

December 11, 2019 11:37 am

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December 11, 2019 1:50 pm

Bushfires in Australia bring out the worst in environmental activists. Not that they ever have anything much to do with coping with fires or, heaven’s above, actually fighting fires.

No, their unwitting role is to create restrictive conditions well-suited to making fires more numerous and more catastrophic. Then it may be blamed on carbon dioxide and everybody else.

The environmental movement here cut its political teeth on stopping a hydro-electric dam from going ahead. Hypocrisy is a speciality, it would seem.

Reply to  Gumnut
December 11, 2019 3:21 pm

The Green Blight (e.g. wind turbines, pv panels) vs the Blue Blight (e.g. hydroelectric). The sociopolitical myths and straw clowns (e.g. anti-whatever, hater) defense.

December 11, 2019 2:01 pm

In the Seattle area, is psychotherapy being provided to the eco-anzious by either of the Fraser brothers?

December 11, 2019 2:13 pm

I would greatly appreciate if somebody could find out her finances and her parents ..

I’m pretty sure that tax returns in Sweden are available for public consultation.

Doc Chuck
December 11, 2019 2:38 pm

It’s simply the post-modern social contract. You see, it’s now really all about ME and thus the truth is just whatever my easy perception of it turns out to be.

Oh, and have I mentioned that I perceive YOU OWE ME, big-time. So naturally I’ll insist on my personal rights to a guaranteed income (or at least a job free of any need for sufficient productivity from me to further my employer’s interests); a so-called ‘education’; free health care; and provided comfortable housing with free internet access. And I’m quite hopeful that these will maintain my sense of self worth until I can’t bear such empty living any longer.

Then my therapist/spokesperson can report to you how I have nonetheless been cheated from what I’m due.

December 11, 2019 2:47 pm

Well I blame Gaia for being overdrawn at the bank-

As for Greta she needs to blame her parents after they knew full well with the implacable UN warning in July 1989 that once their tipping point warning was reached in 2000 we were all doomed. Yet they still stole her childhood rather than do the right thing like true doomsters-

Naturally I’m off the hook with the last one born in 87 and as for the grandkiddies we’re all a bunch of complete scientific skeptics around here doomsters but can I offer a couple of handy tips as a veteran of all the dooming. You know- practice crouching under the desk when you see the flash and kiss yer ass goodbye followed by running out of oil, Club of Rome and Malthus returns, then the 70s coming of the next Ice Age, Ozone hole, global warmening, Y2k and the terrorists are coming to get us all if the plastic doesn’t.

Here’s my couple of tips for you sad sacks: November 1st is always the start of the total fire ban season in Oz and don’t walk in active volcanoes. Have a good 2020.

Reply to  observa
December 11, 2019 3:26 pm

Mother Gaia is menopausal, which explains the global cooling, warming, change. As Mother Gaia is the sole source of human viability, we should probably prepare because the end is nigh, again, and again, and again.

Reply to  n.n
December 11, 2019 5:35 pm

Smacks forehead! Forgive me doomsters but I forgot about the localised dooming what with all the menopausal global dooming becoming a bit of a blur-
Personally if I were a doomster I’d get onto giant asteroids a coming as the next big thing as the internal global dooming thing is all a bit yesterdays. Besides the martians are coming won’t really wash post the Voyager Mission.

4 Eyes
December 11, 2019 3:04 pm

“So why are all these people so anxiety-ridden and desperate? I believe it is the unconscionable exaggeration, hype, and fear-mongering of our media, special interest groups, some activist scientists, and a number of politicians. And it is unethical, ungrounded in science…” and “existential threats (yes, the means threats to your EXISTENCE), which have no support in the reports of the international scientific community (the IPCC) or the U.S. Climate Assessment. They predict a minor reduction in the future GDP, no more”. Apart from the exaggeration another reason for the anxiety is there are many climate scientists who never challenge the wild claims and so wear the label of useful idiot.

December 11, 2019 3:30 pm

The risk of [catastrophic] [anthropogenic] global warming is plausible. The anxiety is real. The motives are archaic. The people… persons speaking truth to facts have an empathetic appeal.

michael hart
December 11, 2019 4:41 pm

I still remember my grad-student days and the weight of the weekend versions of the Seattle newspapers. They were heavier than some of my Chemistry and Immunology textbooks. The books lasted me several years but it seemed that the Seattle times was chopping down a small forest every day.

December 11, 2019 10:28 pm

The Richard Dawkins Foundation’s website posted the first part of the article with the title: “The world has just over a decade to get climate change under control, U.N. scientists say.” It links to the rest of the Washington Post article.

Looks like they have found something to believe in (see comments below the posting).

December 12, 2019 6:08 pm

Dr. Mass, you are part of the problem. You still believe, without evidence, that CO2 needs to be mitigated. Such things lead to the anxiety you speak of.

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