Snow cover over Lower 48 most extensive on record for early December (going back to 2003). At least a foot of snow has fallen in 25 different states over last few days. And snow has fallen as far south as Southern California, Tennessee, and Northern Georgia.
Snow covered the ground on nearly half of the real estate in the Lower 48 — 46.2 percent of land area — on Monday morning, the largest area on Dec. 2 since snow cover records from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration began in 2003. Normally, a little more than a quarter of the nation has snow on the ground at this time of year.
– Source: Jason Samenow, Capital Weather Gang
This graphic from NOAA
I personally saw the snow in southern California the day after Thanksgiving. This view below is from Interstate 5 crossing “The Grapevine” north of Los Angeles:
From the NWS:
I see that Roy Spencer’s UAH LT product comes up with +0.22 for the lower 48 during Nov. Whilst at the same time recording the warmest November in its record (from 1979).
Illustrates that snow is not a proxy for temperature … precipitable water is required, of which more can be held in warmer air. ( 7% more per 1C rise).
And (BTW) neither the IPCC, Gore nor “many others” say that “snow would be gone by 2015”.
For those not appreciating it – the contiguous USA is but 1.58% of the surface area of the Earth.
Here are the current surface temp anomalies for the NH…..
Most climate change models have been wrong… overstating the observed warming.
Oh, come off it! You know very well that if there were a snow drought, the shreaking and crying would be all about “global warming/climate change” being to blame. Hypocrite much? Same with the US being just a small fraction of the earth. Seriously, you guys should listen to yourselves once in a while. You change the story to fit the situation. Like clockwork.
Was it last year or the year before, when record heat in France and Spain was being touted by these same alarmists as evidence that CO2 was going to kill us all?
Last time I checked, Spain and France combined are substantially smaller than the Continental US.
But Mark, in that record heat – surely the hottest evah [since last time?] – surely France and Spain would expand hu-u-u-u-ugely . . .
All the models say so, don’t they?!
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It is absurd, Bruce. If we live long enough and the ice fields are descending upon us from the north they will be still spouting this nonsense that it is the warm air allowing the holding of more moisture content that is causing it. Their pictures should be displayed in the dictionaries to define cognitive dissonance.
Anthony,
Dr. David Viner of the CRU said in 2000 that in a few years snowfall will become “a very rare and exciting event”, and that “Children just aren’t going to know what snow is”
But here it is 20 years later and snow is not rare. Children that live in places that historically had snow, still know what snow is. I live in such a place, and I can’t remember a single winter that had no snow. Some were drier than others, but there was snow every year.
Notice how they have given up on the longer term averages. The alarmists now have to resort to any short term record that they can find.
BTW, warmest since 1979 gee, is that really the best you can do?
1) End of the coldest period in the last 100 years or so.
2) Let’s ignore the warmer periods prior to 1979.
UAH Global Temperature Update for November 2019: +0.55 deg. C
But, so what? Even this large a positive anomaly still hasn’t broken the downtrend since the Super El Nino peak of February 2016.
http://www.drroyspencer.com/2019/12/uah-global-temperature-update-for-november-2019-0-55-deg-c/
John Tillman
“Even this large a positive anomaly still hasn’t broken the downtrend since the Super El Nino peak of February 2016.”
Great!
Can you explain how this trend since 2016 could be anything else than a downtrend?
Is it not evident to you that a trend over a period starting with UAH’s highest anomaly since Dec 1978 can only be negative?
Look at this comparison of UAH anomalies for the two periods 1997-2001 and 2015-2019, when they start relative to their respective begin anomaly:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1y1zmzMt_1gD5jxCOH13UVYvbocYulbNz/view
What did you say 18 years ago, in Nov 2001?
Incidentally, the so-called ‘Super El Nino’ 2015/16 is now set in correct relation to the real ‘Super El Nino’ 1997/98, as is shown by the MEI index:
(1982/83 was the strongest positive ENSO signal since far over 100 years, but was completely hidden in the UAH time series due to the major El Chichon eruption.)
Rgds
J.-P. D.
Anthony Banton
“I see that Roy Spencer’s UAH LT product comes up with +0.22 for the lower 48 during Nov.”
Odd that statistic with all snowfall.
It would be good if he was able to put up a comment on the relationship between low USA November Temperatures and the snowfall statistics corresponding since 2003 to see if there have been colder Novembers in that time.
Mr Banton, as is his wont, conflates facts to his beliefs.
I love this line,
“Illustrates that snow is not a proxy for temperature … precipitable water is required, of which more can be held in warmer air. ( 7% more per 1C rise).”
Basic Meteorology.
Helpful Hint, snow is ice.
Cold is what makes snow.
Snow is formed by cold temperature acting on precipitable water.
Most water in warmer air, like at the tropics at sea level, usually falls as water, otherwise known as rain.
precipitable water in the air is more likely to form snow when the air is colder.
Which happens in winter.
Hint, that is why when there is warmer air in Summer with lots of precipitable water in the lower 48 it snow is much less common despite the extra moisture.
So fess up Mr Banton,
Admit snow is a proxy for temperature.
It really is you know.
Snow cover radiates out from the pole, Also down from mountains in winter so the only place where snow extent can increase is towards the south and down mountains when the air gets colder.
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See NSIDC “Whether winter storms produce snow relies heavily on temperature. Snow forms when the atmospheric temperature is at or below freezing (0 degrees Celsius or 32 degrees Fahrenheit) and there is a minimum amount of moisture in the air”
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It is good that you comment. It means a nerve is working and that you are a little cold sensitive.
It’s Global Warming! It must be. Oh the horror, the children, the lives at stake! Cats and Dogs living together…
If ice albedo is important in climate-weather feedbacks, this early snow (if it stays) may influence US weather for the rest of the winter season. The insolation reflection and cooling effect must be considerable.
R
Children aren’t going to know what global warming-induced, crystalline, high-albedo-precipitation is any more. I know this is caused by warming because when you lay down in this stuff wearing just your socks it burns.
“It’s a CLIMATE EMERGENCY! And it’s all your fault! How DARE you! Stop breathing NOW or ve vill stop you!” – Greta the Terrible
Well, as Matt Foley would say, this doesn’t mean JACK SQUAT! Because, as I heard on NPR just this morning, the decade from 2010 through 2019 is very likely to go down as the WARMEST EVAH!! So there.
It appears tht the National Weather Service forecast is much, much more accurate at predicting what is going to happen than the people who produce scary articles about something that hasn’t happened and probably won’t.
Is anyone collecting that nonsense and archiving it with anything except links? If they all turn out to be WRONG, one should be able to rub their noses in it, y’know.
I blame global warming.
“most extensive on record for early December (going back to 2003).”
Are you serious?
Read back in the article where it clearly states that records for snow cover only go back to 2003.
“When it comes to climate change, we have to trust our scientists, because they know lots of big scary words…
“First, I asked Stephen Belcher, the head of the Met Office Hadley Centre, whether the recent extended winter was related to global warming. Shaking his famous “ghost stick”, and fingering his trademark necklace of sharks’ teeth and mammoth bones, the loin-clothed Belcher blew smoke into a conch, and replied, “Here come de heap big warmy. Bigtime warmy warmy. Is big big hot. Plenty big warm burny hot. Hot! Hot hot! But now not hot. Not hot now. De hot come go, come go. Now Is Coldy Coldy. Is ice. Hot, den cold. Frreeeezy ice til hot again. Den de rain. It faaaalllll. Make pasty.” — Sean Thomas
Science, June 2013
On the plus side it is winter in the north at the moment.
Here in Australia (ie – the place in SUMMER) there is apparently still fresh snow at Halls Creek. It this rate the ski fields are going to be able to stay open all year and children are not going to be able to comprehend the concept of a ‘Snow Season’.
“Grandpa? You honestly had to stop skiing in September? Really Grandpa? Did you have to walk to school as well?”
Just remember, the alarmists are very well-schooled. If we experience a particularly cold and/or snowy month it’s only weather. If we experience a very warm month in the summer, it’s climate change.
White emergency
This year’s John Holdren Idiocy Award goes to……..
This trend isn’t looking so great. Greatly increasing fall snow cover over the Northern Hemisphere over the past few decades.
That’s an interesting chart I hadn’t seen before. Can one of you guys who knows the subject estimate the effect on planetary albedo for a poor dumb EE who knows when it’s raining but is otherwise a weather ignoramus? How would it compare to the theoretical watts/m2 causing Planetary Heat Death (see, I can make up scary monikers too. At least watts are familiar to me, even if Watts is not, personally.) Thanks…
Impact on albedo is fairly low when the days are so short and sun angle is low. What is more important is what the snow/ice cover is in the northern hemisphere in late June when the sun angle and length of day peak. For example, we had skiing in California on 4th of July (Mammoth Mountain, Squaw Valley and Alpine Meadows closed their ski season on July 7). All that snow in summer was reflecting a lot of sunlight back into space that could not heat the ground and cause “greenhouse” warming.
I, too, long for those wintry Polar Expresses of my youth! Ahhhhh…. Now, not so much.
It’s not snow, it’s Sea Level Rise sneaking up from behind! (It’s worse than we thought – send more grant money).
And what would the trend line of this graph look like if it started in 1968 rather than 1967?
Alot of Californy’s higher mountains getting a whooping of snow right now.
Looks like the snow level is about 6000 feet this morning, I’m glad it’s not too warm a storm. Yesterday at 7000 – 7500 elevation we were tromping around in about 20 inches on the north slopes, maybe 10″ on the south facing slopes.
Goodie !!! That should give all those climate emergency IDIOTS a headache !!!!
Expect an imminent invasion of T-34 poley bears anytime then as scientists search for answers and come up with climate change-
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/russians-spotted-a-polar-bear-painted-with-cryptic-graffiti-scientists-are-searching-for-answers/ar-BBXKh0m
Yeah I know you all erroneously thought the last of poley bears that hadn’t jumped off the skyscrapers had all been killed by the walruses falling off the cliffs and were now extinct but that was the last lot of grants and publicity. This is worse than we thought with the poley bears surreptitiously disguised as tanks.
Sun activity is low, so according to Svensmark a cooling period may be cranking up. Svensmark’s theory also explains the earlier global warmings during this interglacial (Sun activity was high during those periods).
Svensmark made the delivery of his theory in a youtube. The alarmists had control of practically all the technical journals. His video scanned the audience during his discussion and most of the folks attending looked as if they were at their loved ones funeral. In fact, one of the “scientists” came up to Svensmark afterwards and offered his rebuttal – “You should be ashamed” !
That youtube may still be around, although I guess it’s possible that google censored it.