This discussion with Mark Steyn is the only time Steve McIntyre, Ross McKitrick, and Anthony Watts have appeared together on stage. It occurred while on the Alaskan Mark Steyn Club Cruise in September.~cr
Joining me for the discussion were three people at the forefront of pushing back against Michael E Mann and his fellow warm-mongers: Anthony Watts, proprietor of the world’s Number One climate website, WattsUpWithThat; and the dynamic duo that broke Mann’s hockey stick, Steve McIntyre and Ross McKitrick.
[Side-note: If you watch this on YouTube, the ever more insecure reducation-camp commissars at Google-YouTube-Global Thought Control Inc have put up a Planetary Public-Service Health Warning under the video. (Why is it only Elizabeth Warren who wants to break up the Facebook/Google uni-cartel?) Have a good giggle at it, and then reflect that at least their book-cooking is getting more inept: An hour after this video was posted, it had 55 likes, yet only 1 view. Hmm…]
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Very interesting! I was making notes for comment but the list became too long. A few comments, however:
1. Totally agree with Anthony’s comment about “child abuse” and it should have more discussion in the marketplace of ideas.
2. Ross’s description of the levels of discussion was interesting and included Academia (areas such as statistics and economics which bring reality to the climate debate), Science (where the physics/chemistry/biology warfare occurs) and the “crazy” political level (where the intense partisanship occurs). Ross was correct that the Academia/Science discussions do not get to the political level because that level is more interested in using the debate as a cash cow to further socio-economic ideologies rather than a scientific discussion. And, most people only look at the political aspects as they are not interested in delving into the scientific underpinnings of models, datasets and how they are built, managed and interpreted. My interest started in the science of AGW; but, I’m becoming more interested in the political level and getting people to investigate more on their own and to bring tools to them (such as WUWT) to help them understand the science and how it should influence the political solutions that are being offered.
3. Glad that the importance of statistics and economics was mentioned.
Really good discussion!
Does anyone remember this oldie (as part of the video discusses energy)-
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/01/25/the-words-climate-and-global-warming-do-not-appear-in-the-state-of-the-union-address/
“So tonight, I challenge you to join me in setting a new goal: by 2035, 80% of America’s electricity will come from clean energy sources. Some folks want wind and solar. Others want nuclear, clean coal, and natural gas. To meet this goal, we will need them all – and I urge Democrats and Republicans to work together to make it happen.”
The comments on scientists being afraid to speak up and comparisons to life under Communism reminded me of an old joke about workers in the Soviet Union:
The modern climate research version of this would be:
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I took a cruise up Glacier Bay about five years ago. A Park Ranger boarded to tell us how the glaciers had shrunk since the first Europeans sailed up to the Bay’s mouth, only to find it blocked by ice.
She said “a healthy glacier” would not be shrinking like this—-thereby committing the Pathetic Fallacy.
I should have responded that “Nature abhors idiocy”, but that wouldn’t have registered.
I pointed out that western Canada would all be under ice if those Pacific NW glaciers hadn’t got ill, and that all of Alaska would be under trillions of tons of ice.
She ignored my comment.
Dumb as a bag of pine bark nuggests.
She just reacted professional.
https://www.google.com/search?q=keep+your+customers+satisfied&oq=keep+your+customers+satisfied+&aqs=chrome.
Among other much more important things, today I’m thankful that climate alarmism is indeed a pile of hokum and it’s just a matter of time until that’s obvious to everyone, even the slow and even the disingenuous. Peace and blessings to all…
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/09/toplevel_climate_modeler_goes_rogue_criticizes_nonsense_of_global_warming_crisis.html?fbclid=IwAR3z9yOEtb59FkwHu692uDQbgjrgtEWEMADYnDlyQm355ac2qM5g82kAWcI#.XYoUiwHxORc.facebook
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1998/08/980814065506.htm
https://earthdata.nasa.gov/learn/sensing-our-planet/when-oceans-drop