Hilarious video of Extinction Rebellion’s Zion Lights struggling to answer basic questions about the science behind ER’s claims.
Andrew Neil rips apart Extinction Rebellion claim that ‘billions of children will die’
ANDREW NEIL dismantled the argument made by an Extinction Rebellion member that “billions of children will die in the next 10 to 20 years” because of climate change.
By NAOMI ADEDOKUN
PUBLISHED: 22:29, Wed, Oct 9, 2019 | UPDATED: 22:34, Wed, Oct 9, 2019Zion Lights, a spokeswoman for Extinction Rebellion, appeared on Andrew Neil’s BBC show to defend her organisation’s actions. The climate action group have shut down parts of central London as part of a planned two-week protest. Many have criticised the demonstrations for their disruption and “alarmist language”.
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Facebook video of the exchange (click the link above to see the video, if you can’t see the Facebook video);
It’s refreshing to see a BBC presenter challenging climate claims, because it doesn’t happen very often these days. But Extinction Rebellion’s outrageous claim that a few feet of sea level rise will lead to billions of deaths deserves ridicule, even from people who think climate change is a problem.
Please play this to anyone who runs for this scam. They won’t be convinced but they will have something to think about. The Climate Change crowd-based their claims on incredibly flimsy arguments. And still, they make such a ruckus. We had a mass movement in Germany and Austria that people were maniacal about 80 years ago and their claims were equally flimsy.
This could be the end of ANDREW NEIL working for the BBC.
Not necessarily so, even the BBC can see that ER’s claims and tactics are not courting public opinion, despite giving them an easy ride.
Andrew Neil is literally the only BBC person who is prepared to challenge Climate Change orthodoxy. Yet unlike most interviewers he allows his interviewees to speak and make their points (if they have any).
I felt sorry for poor Zion Lights. I expect her mates told her “You’re all right, it’s the BBC. They love us, you’ll have it all your own way”. Unlucky.
LOL. The poor lady was like the proverbial rabbit caught in headlights!
She showed remarkable poise for being on the losing side of the data/debate. Must be a British thing.
Probably an out of body sort’a thing.
No flights, no cooking and we have to have the lights out as well.
I would rather have Zion Light out!!
The video is also still available on YouTube, with comments. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pO1TTcETyuU&feature=youtu.be
SuffolkBoy
The comments make me So happy Lolol Its brilliant to see so many people know the climate talk, is all a scam!
However, YouTube videos critical of Greta don’t last long, and I suspect the same will go for XR. “Soph” found that not just her video but her whole channel got taken off YouTube, Facebook and Bitchute. Whoever controls Greta has got considerable influence over alternative media, and will continue to have the influence long after she has been forgotten.
The truth will out. You can’t stop the tide of reality forever.
That must be the rising tide then? 😉 AtB
So that’s where all the “sea” level rise is going. Into reality rise love it.
Had some fun with a couple of true believers recently showing them opposing claims and time lines for the impending climate disaster with the simple question of which one’s right?
Has made them start looking a bit deeper and ask questions (which as a true believer should not be asked).
James Bull
Dr Steve Turley manages to survive.
Primarily because he doesn’t rely of YouTube for finances. He has his own sponsors.
Greta and her parents have been pictured with antifa shirts on which is a George Soros funded movement. Even her personal handler is a known George Soros employee.
The claims that “billions will die” of this doomsday cult religion are true…
If the activist are successful in cutting back CO emissions by 80%, billions will freeze to death or starve to death by a self fulfilling prophecy of genocide against carbon consumers. All in the name of “saving the planet”.
Even the vegans will learn to hunt so their cats and dogs don’t go extinct.
There are about 7 billion people on Earth. I predict that about 7 billion will die in the next century.
In doing research for a paper I did in college in the ’90’s I discovered that these ‘watermelons’ actually believe that the maximum sustainable human population is 200 million. The last time the population was that low was before Alexander the Great. They want to eliminate 97 out of every 100 people on the planet.
Her channel getting taken down had nothing to with Grata Thunderpants though, threatening Wojcicki probably not the smartest of things to do when regardless of how edgy you are even in jest. Still on Bitchute, difficult to get the boot from there. Thing is on observation, she screams adult edgelord influence exactly the same way Greta does with dopey utopian socialists.
I would agree on the influence part. Greenpeace probably spemd a ton of advertising money on Youtube, and Alphabet/Google/Youtube are just another part of the Climate Industrial Complex.
Comments were just turned off as I watched. They are desperate to keep the echo chamber in tact.
I can still see them. (Australia)
Also & Australia.
Zion Lights? The Lights are on, but nobody’s home!
Talk about being in DENIAL.
Does Not Get It
Or refuses to see it
Blinded by the Plight
She acts like a douche
tryin to block the drivers right
Bryan A
With all due respect, MANY of these people ARE DEFINITELY NOT in denial – these ruthless, self-proclaimed guides of superior merit & wisdom want to control your every economic & intellectual move. I suspect this crowd will justify whatever level of totalitarian violence is required to subjugate the rest of us…and, oh, by the way, I bet they could care less about the climate.
This particular lady looked like a f@ur momisugly#king idiot this interview, but she & her crowd are (excuse the pun) dead-serious about controlling the rest of us.
At the very least, they are in denial of how little impact their actions will have, and, most notably, in denial of how flamingly stupid they are.
Without resorting to profanity, this unfortunate individual is the classic example of the “useful” idiot.
This video would be very good tool in communicating with the “undecideds”, but there will be a large portion of the viewing audience who will have thought the host was browbeating the poor virtuous young lady.
The message in the UK and maybe more so in the US, is hosts can’t be afraid of challenging the physically impossible despite their agreement with alarmist memes.
Why don’t the activist scientists (like Phil Jones EAU) step in to disclaim this nonsense; don’t they realize that the rationales of the Extinction crowd are stripping away the credibility of the policy positions they are advocating?
Phil Jones? Now there is a name from the past!
I was taught “If you can’t say something good about someone, don’t say anything.” Well, she is cute.
Denied. I’ll leave it at that.
I think Zion Lights was the alternate title for one of the first post Ozzy songs by Black Sabbath. They chose Neon Nights instead.
Sounds more like a kosher cigarette brand to me.
I thought it might be a Tel Aviv disco.
I thought it was one of Frank Zappa’s children.
Your thinking Dio
No there’s a song…..top vocals by the man- RJD!
To the “even the BBC “ point – Andrew Neil has a fine reputation as a serious interviewer….
To the ladies points……
Where to start? But as soon as she quotes the “Mano on the moon” thing, you kind of give up. This is the equivalent to the point that any internet argument is forfeited by the first person to mention Hitler…
I might have asked her a few questions regarding her knowledge on the scale of the undertaking she is blithely dissembling on about.
Lets assume she is talking only about the UK.
1) How many gas appliances heaters, boilers, cookers, etc. will need to be replaced with electrical cognates?
2) How many workers will be required to accomplish the removal, replacement and disposal of the aforementioned appliances in 6 years? (is there enough landfill volume) *these items still have value
3) How many automobiles, trucks (lorries) and buses must be replaced?
4) How much rebuild/replace/upgrade will be required to the UK power grid to accommodate all of the electrical demand?
5) How many nuclear powered electrical generating stations will need to be brought on-line in the next 6 years to supply the needed energy to power all of the existing power demands as well as all of the replacement devices?
6) What sort of energy is proposed to manufacture all of these new nuclear power stations and appliances, or must they all be made in less than 6 years also?
7) Will it be necessary to force almost all manufacturing and building to a halt as most processes require carbon, such as steel and concrete?
8) Who the hell is going to pay for all of this?
* perhaps she plans on selling the perfectly good appliances to the Indians or Chinese, but they will be the ones selling the electrical appliances.
That’s a bunch of excellent questions but, unfortunately, she would tell you they need workshopping to find solutions; man on the moon and all that.
Good point! And mobil phones and social media are very heavy CO2 emitters. Git rid of all that too. Tell the teenagers that!!
“Andrew Neil has a has a fine reputation as a serious interviewer…..
It is a sad day when Andrew drags out all the IPPC nonsense without questioning it and then let’s this little uneducated tartlet get away with quoting Hansen and Mann…… gimmie a break Mark.
But I suppose for the fake news BBC this is revolutionary.
One battle at a time.
Neil would not get into a debate about Mann during this interview…his mission was pretty clearly to have a go at XR.
I have no first hand knowledge, but would assume he has a pretty tightly structured interview plan….?
I think you misjudge Andrew Neal. His interviewing style is not to confront the interviewee with extremes but to get them to compare their view with the mainstream which highlights how extreme they’re being. He did this very well last night. Andrew is also a contributor to the Guido Fawkes website and shows some of his personal views their.
I think he judged the interview just right for the mainstream viewer concerned about the
idiotic ER movement.
Note that she quotes James Hansen, the man that never got one prediction right and then quotes Micheal Mann.
One must remember he predicted Manhattan would be under water by now
A C O
Hang on, Hansen was cited in a comment on a different thread yesterday saying that doubling CO2 would give a TCR of 1.2 C. Given the absence of significant positive feedbacks Monckton’s range of 1.0-1.4 seems pretty close.
BTW way the citation was Hansen 1984, cited in AR5. Really. Hansen said that and AR5 contains it. What they hope of course, is that there will be a huge positive water vapour feedback which literally all evidence to date shows is not happening and will not, and proved mathematically by Monckton to be non-physical on a climate-stable planet.
And Ster all in the same breath.
Zion Lights expresses it best herself:
“Alarmist language works.
That’s why we’re discussing it right now.”
Great point! Alarmist language gets Ms. Lights on the BBC with a high profile interview. Alarist language has been driving this movement entirely since 1989! Nothing else has or could drive this movement, because reality and science work against it. Alarmist language, in other words lying, is all that they have.
But here’s the rub…any movement built on lies is doomed to failure. Historically, these failures are catastrophic in nature, producing widespread death and suffering, as well as severe damage to the professed noble cause.
The death of this climate crisis movement was insured with its disingenuous conception. The only question that remains is how much collateral damage will be done because of it.
What about using threatening language in return?
‘If you knew that five years in prison were the punishment for saying other than the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, would you be withdrawing ninety percent plus of your alarmist rubbish?’
You get nowhere pandering to people like this. You demolish them, humiliate them through their ignorance.
If they come back with the same rubbish after being demolished for ignorance, there is no longer any reason to be courteous, you call them mentally subnormal cretins….
Gretins, or gretards.
I indeed get your drift that there are logical inconsistencies in what Lights says but these need spelling out.
If such language “works” they would not be “discussing it” because the interviewer would not be questioning it in the first place.
If some language is “alarmist” rather than factual how can it be said that it has “worked” if all it has done is to undermine rational and factual discourse? What “work” has it done in this case?
There are barely 2.3 billion kids aged 17 and younger in the world, so ER expects them all to die. Plus presumably those yet to be born.
Well, it’s metaphorical. It means dead to their old life and reborn in the light of the Green!
Except for the refuseniks.
They will be culled.
I didn’t know these kids age 17 and younger could not move fast enough to escape sea level rise! Last weekend while at the beach, they were diving into a century’s worth of modeled sea level rise every time a wave broke. Also, I didn’t know that many lived by the sea. Isn’t the sea shore crowded with expensive homes, resorts, & industry?
As a side note, an activists looks, dress style, accent, and mastery of the English language are not indicators of scientific understanding and wisdom.
No. She is in league with AOC’s Town Hall ‘Special Guest’.
THE BABIES! WE HAVE TO EAT THE BABIES!
BBC are corrupt and in the pocket of industry.
How much CO2 was emitted making that BBC segment?
Andrew Neil and BBC staff are shameless, careless, corrupt capitalists!
Shut down BBC now . . .
Andrew Neil is actually mostly ok, one of increasingly few of his ilk still “allowed” to broadcast for the otherwise hopelessly corrupt BBC.
Yes, Andrew Neil is too well established and respected to be openly bullied by the BBC. He was an editor at The Economist and Sunday Times back in the early 1980’s. They are just waiting until he retires/dies. Less controversial than publicly firing him. They simply make sure that nobody else with similarly old-fashioned ideas about journalistic integrity ever gets promoted. It would be career suicide for junior BBC editors today to express the level of free-thinking shown by Neil.
corrupt is the nice word…
How do they get away with this crap?….still acting like it’s our problem
…not one word about China and the developing world
Good idea. Let’s “shut down” anyone who disagrees with us rather than debate their errors.
Excellent idea! My only problem is how I can “shut down” pseudoscientists like extinction rebellion wannabe politicians who have no knowledge of society, culture, politics, economics or the aspirations of the other 99.9% of the rest of us.
& I want my free TV licence Now , not when I’m over b!@ur momisugly@?# 75 ( &, yes I am on a bog standard state pension + guaranteed credit so if I was 75 I’d qualify) By the way what happened to that pillock who shut himself up in an air tight dome with a load of plants,(or did i dream that??!?); can’t remember his name. I keep the following on a bit of paper in my wallet, (mainly so’s i can a score a few points over the “carbon dioxide bad” brigade: healthy-ish air: Nitrogen 78%, oxygen 21%, Argon 0.94%, Carbon Dioxide (CO2) 0.03% [Pears (En)- Cyclopedea]
Planned, yes, but not because of catastrophic anthropogenic global warming, climate change.
Religion does not respond to logic. Good effort n=by Neil to show the nonsense religion of climate alarmism up for what it is. Sadly the young lady being revealed as a low brow know nothing in the studio, will not have absorbed anything from the drubbing she just received. She will leave that studio content that Extinction Rebellion got some publicity, and content that her superior internal religious awareness of the climate crisis shows how ignorant others like Andrew Neil are.
In another part of the world of Green dogma,some good news. Thankfully Dyson have literally pulled the plug on their electric car development. They have concluded, rightly, there is no commercial potential for another electric car producer.
Full marks to the decision makers at Dyson.
I loved the description of a “low brow know nothing” as extinction rebellion’s choice of spokesperson. It tells us what we need to know about the rest of the gaggle.
You will find Andrew Neil is quite good, watch him slap down racist hypocrite Diane Abbot.
West Indian mums;
In defense of the lady: When I was younger there was a law where I lived that mandated that a woman working later than 10 PM (I can’t really remember the time) had to be given a taxi ride home.
Diane Abbot? Working? She is a lifelong politician, therefore has no idea what work is. But I doubt that all the cabs were after 10 PM, regardless.
In the US NYS, and many others, had a law that prohibited women working the 3rd shift. Thus women were utilized for simple non automated day-shift assembly work. When the law changed most companies “grandmothered” these folks to permanent day jobs.
When I worked my way to Production Supervisor in a large photographic company, who at that time had a no “fire or layoff without cause” policy, I inherited a large cadre of wonderful older, friendly ladies who had not the slightest inclination to train on the rotating 3 shift automated dark room equipment which now made up most of our operation.
The saving grace for me was a very generous early retirement program, including SSI bridges.
“When I was younger there was a law where I lived that mandated that a woman working later than 10 PM (I can’t really remember the time) had to be given a taxi ride home.”
That was the case when I was working in the public sector. I made an issue about men not having the option. The powers-that-were cut it off for all.
That was a good show.
A left-wing Labour figure (Abbot)
A socially liberal, economically Thatcherite Tory (Portillo)
And a traditional right-wing host (Neil)
All engaged in reasoned debate. Sometimes they won. Sometimes they lost. Sometimes they got nowhere. But there was always debate and respect.
So the BBC cancelled that show.
This guy is fantastic
ER is a scam and zion lightx needs more meds
Oh. My. God. Everyone on the internet, indeed, in the universe is now dumber having listened to that moron.
Such skepticism on carbon capture but such optimism on renewables. No experts with any track record of successful energy production are touting a carbon free 2025, only so called “climate experts”, alarmists, activists, social justice warriors, salesman and those hoping to profit from new but so far demonstrably inadequate technologies.
If she thinks putting a man on the moon without the internet and cell phones is somehow obviously more complex than revamping the modern power system to work without fossil fuels in a short time frame she is woefully ignorant. She might as well tout what David Copperfield has done, because she is asking for magic.
My parents told me that in post-World War 2 Czechoslovakia no one took Communists seriously. Their plans were so obviously unworkable. Then they got power, everybody had to take them seriously or be jailed, they put all their plans into practice, and yes, they did not work. The country has yet to recover, 30 years after the fall of communism.
Planning Engineer
As I noted from a commentator elsewhere; whilst the task of putting a man on the moon was daunting, the task of getting the UK to net zero carbon emissions by 2025 is equivalent to putting the population of the planet on the moon, and keeping them there.
How many did “we” put on the moon, a dozen?
Now lets put a million or ten million or a hundred million, that is almost the scale of what is being proposed. Such a task cannot be done in 5 or 6 years.
Thats refreshing especially for me. Two days ago Montreal’s Champlain Bridge was blocked by 3 XR for severals hours, putting the lives of the firefighter trying to get them down in danger. Think of all the peoples who could not receive the medical help, since the city was in partial lockdown.
And guess what? One of the 3 Nobel Prize nominates was a teacher (poor kid!) who no more than last may she was in Mexico doing Scuba diving.
You can’t be more into double standards and denial than that. I want some if the unicorns dust she takes, sounds like a lot of fun.
Jacques Cartier bridge, not the Champlain bridge.
Zion is a complete idiot and essentially knew nothing. Neil is giving her too much credit for know anything about climate or climate change or the biosphere in general. Neil should have asked her some specific relevant questions to show how little she actually knew about which she was pontificating. For example, “Zion, what is the average current rate of sea level rise?” “What is the current rate of increase in world grain production?”
I think she dropped her name tag. Anyone seen a sticker with “Box of Rocks” written on it?
Plus 100+!
Don’t insult rocks. I’ve had much more intelligent conversations with a box than I could get from Zion.
The interesting thing is that Andrew Neil took the IPCC numbers at face value, so couldn’t be called a Denier. I’m waiting for the rush of complaints about AN’s abusive behaviour, quite apart from his flagrant breach of BBC guidelines. Will we ever see him again?
Billions of deaths? Nay, trillions!!!
What a poor delusional cow.
Brilliant
So calm and factual
Amazing
Chaamjamal, I am presuming you are referring to Andrew Neil with your comment, as the Zion Light lady didn’t present any facts, she didn’t present any solutions, she didn’t present any time scales, but she did mention James Hansen who has been shown to be wrong on all his doomsday predictions and she did mention Michael Mann who has been revealed to be a fraudster hockey stick graph manufacturer, and is someone the IPCC would happily airbrush out of their history if they could.
She would still leave that studio imagining she has helped her religious climate alarmist call, sadly for her she would be wrong about that too.
Andrew was too easy on her, but I guess if he were to ask any really tough questions he would go the way of David Bellamy and never work again.
“Andrew was too easy on her”
that was his charm i thought
I guess it needs to be done, but that wasn’t even a fair fight.
She brought a plastic spoon to a gun fight, much like Cathy Newman did against Jordan Peterson.