Climate activist Greta Thunberg proclaimed “Successor of Christ” by Church of Sweden

From the Climate Activisim crosses the religious threshold and YGBFKM department comes this inanity.

Via Bibliatodo Noticias via Google Translate:

Greta Thunberg activist is proclaimed “Successor of Christ” by Church of Sweden

Sep 27, 2019

For [her] defense of the environment, the Swedish church has claimed that activist Greta Thunberg is the “successor of Jesus Christ” at this time.

“Ad! Jesus of Nazareth has now named one of his successors, Greta Thunberg, ” wrote the Limhamns Kyrka church on Twitter.


Some people are just nuts. -Anthony

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September 29, 2019 2:20 pm

HAHAHAHAHAHA!

This is a complete example of Gorebull Warming being a RELIGION!

Pop Piasa
Reply to  Max Hugoson
September 29, 2019 3:08 pm

More than that, bible-thumpers will claim that she’s a sign from Revelations that the end is really near.
When followers of the church of Greta begin whacking the folks who think God is still in charge, they might have some substantiation.

J Mac
Reply to  Pop Piasa
September 29, 2019 3:42 pm

No….just no.

Goldrider
Reply to  J Mac
September 30, 2019 8:10 am

I saw Jeezus in chicken-scratches on the ground last night; but then, I was pretty drunk.

staticGenerator
Reply to  Goldrider
October 3, 2019 7:39 pm

Me too (drunk + chicken scratches)

Capitalist-Dad
Reply to  Pop Piasa
September 29, 2019 3:43 pm

All it means to me is the Church of Sweden seems to have given up Christianity to declare the indoctrinated little idiot Greta as the patron saint of The First Church of the Weather Cult.

MarkW
Reply to  Capitalist-Dad
September 29, 2019 5:54 pm

Many of the mainline churches stopped using the gospels to inform their beliefs long ago.
This goes double for any church that has a connection to that countries government.

Reply to  Capitalist-Dad
September 29, 2019 5:56 pm

Google translate it as:

“Announcement! Jesus of Nazareth has now appointed one of his successors, Greta Thunberg.”

Which is pretty much the same as Anthony wrote.

ЯΞ√ΩLUT↑☼N
Reply to  Thomas
September 29, 2019 9:57 pm

When an existing fool through some magic or mindless imagination of his own proclaims a non-existent entity (prove otherwise) appointed a successor that’s desperately pushing crocodile tears about a non-existent issue cratered with lies, you know the Left’s jumped the shark simply to appear virtuous. I call it bat-shat crazy.

Phaedrus
Reply to  Thomas
September 30, 2019 2:17 am

Jesus has left the building

Latitude
Reply to  Capitalist-Dad
September 29, 2019 6:04 pm

I’m not sure this came from the “Church of Sweden”….looks like it came from one guy with a twitter account

Reply to  Latitude
September 29, 2019 7:29 pm

Teen-aged girls need no encouragement, when it comes to feeling their emotions make more sense then elders, especially Dads. Pity Greta, who is told by some she’s the next Christ.

The teachers who are putting these foolish ideas in Greta’s head are also to be pitied. They failed to study history even when they teach a revised sort. They fail to see when one teaches youth to disrespect authority one eventually becomes the authority youth attacks. Look what M–‘s Red Guard did to their teachers.

Writing Observer
Reply to  Latitude
September 30, 2019 5:35 am

Looking up the name, and assuming this is an “official” account – you are closer to correct.

The headline should more likely read “Church IN Sweden.” Congregations in Sweden are more “lock step” than those in the US, but not completely so. There are still concentrations of nutcases here and there. It appears that there is one such in Malmo.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  Capitalist-Dad
September 30, 2019 4:08 am

aka 1COW
roflmao
it fits!
1 silly cow indeed
and as above yes the 2 religions are melding
algoreaclesbeen working away at the catholics for ages as well
its all about faith and zip about proof.

Reply to  Capitalist-Dad
October 2, 2019 9:28 am

Welcome to GloBaalism.

pekke
Reply to  Pop Piasa
September 29, 2019 5:52 pm

Swedish archbishop thinks Greta is like a old testament prophet.

https://www.expressen.se/nyheter/klimat/arkebiskop-antje-jackelen-greta-ar-profetisk/?fbclid=IwAR3rjoxIE5OXHQXTJNUtcmYEK6yW9vKUv7jp7k7P6scZTMemLwI9cXj8pKk

Swedish Church has become a climate cult.

Morgan in Sweden
Reply to  pekke
September 30, 2019 2:35 am

That is why I left the church….

Ing-Marie Koppel
Reply to  pekke
October 1, 2019 5:35 am

Greta Thunberg behaves and talks like a prophet. Typically. All those How dare you?! Like Nathan speaking to David. Or Jeremiah prophesizing about all the calamities that will befall the land. She’s a prophet of the climate warming cult which in my meaning is a new religion. Future will tell a prophet’s autenticity.

(Please stay with your Ing-Marie Koppel username, to prevent having more than one account) SUNMOD

BallBounces
Reply to  Pop Piasa
September 29, 2019 6:50 pm

There is no book of “Revelations” in the Bible.

jtom
Reply to  BallBounces
September 29, 2019 8:08 pm

?
“The Book of Revelation, often called the Book of Revelations, Revelation to John, the Apocalypse of John, The Revelation, or simply Revelation, the Revelation of Jesus Christ (from its opening words) or the Apocalypse, is the final book of the New Testament, and therefore also the final book of the Christian Bible.“

Are you saying the ‘s’ is often wrongly added to ‘Revelation’? Perhaps so, but it is still common usage.

Goldrider
Reply to  jtom
September 30, 2019 8:12 am

Is that the one with the Four Horsemen? Gore, Mann, Hansen, and Greta?
RUNNNNNNN!

yirgach
Reply to  jtom
September 30, 2019 8:40 am

Tell me who’s that writin’, John the Revelator

Roger Knights
Reply to  BallBounces
September 30, 2019 10:45 am

“There is no book of “Revelations” in the Bible.”

Not in the Catholic bible under any name. It barely made it into other bibles back in the day. it’s wackiness is plainly apparent.

Tom in Oregon City
Reply to  Roger Knights
September 30, 2019 3:43 pm

LOL! Missed that book, have you? I’m guessing you’re not one of the Knights of Columbus, then? You should look again. It’s even cited in Roman Catholic liturgy, particularly in a Mass for the Dead: http://www.usccb.org/prayer-and-worship/bereavement-and-funerals/new-testament-readings-during-easter-time.cfm

bugfan
Reply to  BallBounces
September 30, 2019 3:10 pm

So your argument is that the writer was one letter off from stating the name of a book of the bible correctly, so that means the story is, what, invalid?

DocSiders
Reply to  Pop Piasa
September 30, 2019 1:52 pm

I’m not a Christian and I find that blasphemous.

If St. Gretta ever finds herself needlessly sacrificed after days of torture, I’ll consider reconsidering the blasphemy thing.

Dave
Reply to  Pop Piasa
October 1, 2019 4:19 am

No “Bible thumper” I know believes in horse shit. This pathetic tool is being exploited on tactless ignorance.

Richard Smith
Reply to  Pop Piasa
October 1, 2019 6:50 pm

You’re about as stupid as anyone can get. You call followers of Jesus, ‘Bible thumpers’? That and your idiocy of saying that The Lord is not in charge proves you are a God-hater. He made everything, and that includes you. You make your own destiny. Be forgiven by Jesus or be condemned to be cast into the firey pits that burn with fire and Sulphur, and the smoke of torment rises forever.

David Hartley
Reply to  Richard Smith
October 1, 2019 7:38 pm

Sir, with respect you sound very much like the CO2 causes everything crowd and I have never understood the monotheists with their claims of forgiveness yet their threats of such unpleasant revenge should those of us who choose not to believe do so. The idea of threatening people with sadistic agony for ever should we not become followers is baffling to human beings such as myself.
Have I missed the sarc/ sign?
We are seeing how this cult is developing with threats to livelihoods and careers (indeed didn’t one warmist demand sceptics be prosecuted under the RICO act somewhat akin to being prosecuted for Heresy?), combined with personal attacks on character. You make it sound as if that’s the way monotheism started and indeed I feel it was. At least you have given us some insight as to how far this cult, as with any zealotry, could go and why we should be doing all we can to stop it.
Could I just ask again did I miss the sarc/ sign or were we expected to know it is parody?

Dan Adams
Reply to  David Hartley
October 2, 2019 8:16 am

Well sir,man is a fallen creation,sinful in his ways.Lust,greed,pride,etc keeps us seperated from our Holy Creater.Our only way to be redeemed is believing in Jesus,who took our sins upon himself and died in our place.Hell was created for lucifer and his fallen angels,thise who die in sin will end up in this place,no redemption after you die.And according to the bible people will worship the creation instead of their Creator in the last days…

lorenzo
Reply to  Pop Piasa
October 2, 2019 7:42 am

when you’re your chained in the pits of hell and buring in agony you will regret trusting in gretta for their salvation

Chaswarnertoo
Reply to  Max Hugoson
September 29, 2019 3:19 pm

Scoldilocks!

michael hart
Reply to  Chaswarnertoo
September 30, 2019 8:03 am

I’ll bet on the Groke beating the Snorkmaiden every time.

Reply to  Max Hugoson
September 29, 2019 3:48 pm

HELP PLEASE

This is reportedly a UK document – can anyone provide its source/url?
________________

The scale of action required if the UK is to deliver on its commitments enshrined in the Paris Agreement
… all starting January 2020, if not before!

• A moratorium on all new fossil fuel development
• An immediate phase-out of all fossil fuel production, to be complete by 2030-35
– with detailed polices of a just transition for those working in the industries
• A rap idly rising frequent flier levy to immediately slash how often the ‘frequent fliers’ fly
• No airport expansion
• No expansion of the road network
• The rapid move to car-free (including EVs) cities and towns
• A minimum emission standard on all new cars (max IOOgC02/km & tightening at 8-10% each year
• A tight emission standard on all power stations (a fleet level for all suppliers of 250gC02/kWh
• A minimum & very stringent efficiency standard for all rented properties/homes
• All new houses and buildings to be passive-house standard and include onsite renewables
• A fair carbon tax (fee & dividend) or personal carbon allowance
• Major subsidies for E-bikes (paid from the Frequent Flier levy?)
• Stop all fossil fuel advertising
• Devolve responsibilities and powers to regions & cities to help deliver culturally-appropriate policies

And the UK’s Committee on Climate Change to revisit its 1.5°C report without relying on ‘negative emission technologies’
and to take seriously issues of international equity and fairness within our own country

Javier
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
September 29, 2019 5:28 pm

List made by Kevin Anderson, Professor of energy and climate change at Uppsala and Manchester and a member of Climate Strike.
https://twitter.com/kevinclimate/status/1174971010342240256?s=21

Kentlfc
Reply to  Javier
September 29, 2019 6:37 pm

One of Greta’s speech writers.

Ulric Lyons
Reply to  Kentlfc
September 30, 2019 7:46 pm

Roger Hallam’s speach writer too.

Reply to  Javier
September 29, 2019 7:34 pm

Thank you Javier.

It is refreshing to very occasionally see these climate bullsh!tters tell the unvarnished truth:
Except for the ruling elite, there will be no more meat, private cars, air travel, warm houses, dispatchable electric power, etc. We will all live little grey lives in little grey apartments, being told what to eat, drink and think by Big Brother, who will be watching you

ЯΞ√ΩLUT↑☼N
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
September 29, 2019 10:46 pm

A quiet conversation recorded in the near future:

Daughter: “Mummy, I’m cold.”
Mummyr: “Then do star jumps.”
Daughter: “There’s no room and I’ll wear out the only jacket I’m allowed to have.”
Mummyr: “Dear, you shouldn’t have boiled that egg. You used all your UN energy credits just boiling it. I told you to eat it raw.”
Daughter: “It was better than Russian turnip.”
Mummyr: “You have no idea what I had to do to get that egg.”
Daughter: “Thanks mummy. Greta said things would get better, will they?”
Mummyr: “I hope so dear.”
Daughter: “Al Gore and Leonardo DiCaprio say the climate emergency is nearly over.”
Mummyr: “They’ve been saying that most of your 8 years. All good things take time.”
Daughter: “But I miss my friends.”
Mummyr: “Shhh! Not so loud in front of the UN Big Brother cameras. Lamenting will get us sent to the Venezuelan gulag picking turnips. ALL HAIL DEAR LEADER AL GORE AND THE UNITED NATIONS OF HOPE!!!”
Daughter: “Sorry mummy.”
Mummyr: “It’s okay dear. Just remember to recite your hail UN prayers loudly tonight before bed.”
Daughter: “Okay. Do you want the pillow tonight?”
Mummyr: “You have it. I can roll up my UN-sanctioned red overalls and socks.”
Daughter: “I hate the pillow, it smells very bad.”
Mummyr: “The UN says turnip and potato peel pillow filling is good for you. It’s all I could afford anyway since I had to spend everything on our ID microchips.”
Daughter: “I’m still cold. Can we go home soon?”
Mummyr: “Not until we pay the royalty taxes on the chips.”
Daughter: “[sobs] But Al Gore and Leonardo are warm in their castles, and Harrison Ford…”
Mummyr: “Shhh! I know. Nothing we can do right now. I hope Greta comes back and saves us all. HAIL DEAR LEADER AL GORE AND THE UNITED NATIONS OF HOPE!!!”
Daughter: “I liked Greta. I wonder what happened to her after the Great Vote.”
Mummyr: “Nobody knows dear. Our next shift will start soon. Working will get you warm. Do you want to polish the solid gold spoons this time?”
Daughter: “I like polishing. The UN delegates will be proud of me for making their cutlery sparkle. But the big machine scares me.”

Editor
Reply to  Javier
September 29, 2019 11:52 pm

Javier

thanks for that . I don’t know if you saw my spoof list earlier in the thread. its eerily like tis one but has some realistic additions of things that will really affect the young. Now which decade do you want to go back to in order to be miserable in without modern comforts? I favour the 1730’s as it was quite warm.

tonyb

Eric Stevens
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
September 29, 2019 8:58 pm

All they need to do is require the elimintion of street lighting and their lifestyle will be back to the 18th century.

Sunny
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
September 30, 2019 9:54 am

ALLAN MACRAE … Thia has to be the most stupid list of demands I’ve ever read 😐 I remember watching a tv program a few weeks ago about recovery trucks, there was a broken dowm lorry on the M1 motorway, and for a couple of hours of only one lane, they calculated 10s of millions of pounds lost in business. Imagine what would happen if the whole of the uk shut down… I am sick and tired of the climate lies!! PLEASE somebody form a group of intellectuals and prove to the sane masses that the U.N. and ipcc is a mass scam machine!!! If the greens can do it, then so can we!!

James Kent
Reply to  Sunny
September 30, 2019 12:18 pm

Yes, but the problem for “us” is that we are not an organized identifiable group driven by any particular ‘ideology’ that we all have in common. So it’s almost impossible for “us” to organize into one in order to combat the madness. The UN and IPCC, on the other hand, are identifiable groups driven by a common ideology (left-wing Liberalism, say, or Socialism, and a shared desire to overthrow the industrial West). Us normal folk are really just random individuals who just want to be left alone to get on with our lives. Perhaps we have a shared view of the world based on conservative ideals, but that’s not an ideology. We are up against an organized and determined enemy with a common aim.

Reply to  James Kent
October 3, 2019 1:23 pm

James I’d like to suggest that independencedaily might be of interest because it is not a political party, it is an online newspaper through which you will reach both Brexit party and UKIP voters. Although quintessentially political it’s not linked to a political party and so provides an apolitical forum to promote the benefits of cheap reliable energy.
Climate is very difficult for a political party to tackle directly. Mr. Farage launched his party with NO policies! (Except for Brexit). Policies put people off as well as attract them. Energy policy is a hard sell. It can be done (sell the sizzle not the sausage) but one needs a big advertising budget to even make a dent. PR is cheap but lacks the repetition of advertising. So, a lot of articles from different directions and different authors is the next best thing.
https://independencedaily.co.uk/

Andrea Hardwick
Reply to  Sunny
September 30, 2019 12:49 pm

I just found this a few minutes ago. US webpage but looks like it has international membership. I was impressed if that counts for anything!

James Kent
Reply to  Andrea Hardwick
September 30, 2019 2:06 pm

Andrea, are you referring to the Wattsup web site itself? If so, then yes it’s pretty widespread. I for instance, reside in New Zealand.

A. Folke
Reply to  Andrea Hardwick
October 2, 2019 5:29 am

AND. I live in Germany, equally disgusted by Greta and her Jets!

Roger Knights
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
September 30, 2019 10:52 am

Once they start implementing that lit of restrictions, the pushback will be enormous, and the UKIP will revive. This pushback effect is why I’m not too concerned about alarmists currently “winning” and moving to renewables, banning fracking and pipelines, etc. They’ll win and win until they lose—and they’ll lose hard and wide.

Reply to  Roger Knights
September 30, 2019 1:11 pm

Hi Roger,
You wrote: “They (the green extremists) will win and win until they lose—and they’ll lose hard and wide.”

Yes Roger, but you will lose more and you may not be able to recover your country or your democracy from the socialist dictatorship that is their plan – and I envisage even more Excess Winter Deaths as their plan unfolds, and the end of your democracy.

I have a great-uncle buried in France, killed in the last days of WW1, and an uncle who rescued the only 10 survivors of his unit at the Dieppe Raid in WW2, winning the Military Cross.

I feel an obligations to all those who fought, bled and died to save your country from foreign tyranny, to speak strongly against this insidious virus that has deeply infected your land.

Regards, Allan

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/08/19/renewable-energy-is-a-blackout-risk-warns-national-grid-after-chaos-during-biggest-outage-in-a-decade/#comment-2774481

Good people of the United Kingdom, just listen to your Uncle Allan, who has never steered you wrong, and has your best interests at heart.

More than 50,000 Excess Winter Deaths occurred in England and Wales in the winter of 2017-2018 – an Excess Winter Death rate more than 2.5 times the per-capita average rate of the USA, and 2.5 to 5 times the per capita winter death rate in Canada.

That is about 35,000 more people who died in just that winter, who would be alive today if the UK had sensible energy and climate policies, instead of hysterical “global warming” alarmist nonsense. Grandpa Bob and Great-Aunt Nan could be enjoying a pint down-the-pub, instead of pushing up daisies. It is a national scandal, a national disgrace.

This catastrophic situation is due in part to destructive, utterly imbecilic energy policies of the UK, which have caused energy costs in the UK to be many times that of Canada and the USA. The UK should “Get fracking”, and allow no more fracking delays by homicidal climate fanatics!

I predicted this debacle in 2013 and earlier, for example in an open letter to The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Department of Energy and Climate Change, Baroness Verma, here:

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/10/31/blind-faith-in-climate-models/#comment-1130954
[excerpt]

I suggest that Excess Winter Mortality, the British rate of which is about double the rate in the Scandinavian countries, should provide an estimate of this unfolding tragedy.
As always in these matters, I hope to be wrong. These are not numbers, they are real people, who “loved and were loved”.

Best regards to all, Allan MacRae

“Turning and tuning in the widening gyre, the falcon cannot hear the falconer…” Yeats
[end of excerpt]

Dammit I’m tired of being correct and having these climate ‘scoundrels and imbeciles’ carry on with their murderous policies, killing literally millions every year. I’ve concluded that nobody could be this stupid for this long, and therefore their actions must be deliberately destructive.

Regards, Allan

Harry Passfield
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
September 30, 2019 12:54 pm

Devolve responsibilities and powers to regions & cities to help deliver culturally-appropriate policies

WTH have ‘culturally-appropriate policies’ got to do with enforcing energy poverty? It politics, not environment.

Paul Penrose
Reply to  Harry Passfield
October 1, 2019 4:18 am

Theoretically the local politicians will know the the best ethnic levers to use to control the local populations. It worked well in the USSR.

n.n
Reply to  Max Hugoson
September 29, 2019 10:08 pm

Quasi-religious/moral philosophy or “ethics”, which is a selective, opportunistic, politically congruent behavioral protocol.

Paul
Reply to  Max Hugoson
September 30, 2019 1:10 am

She’s not the messiah
She’s a very naughty girl

Ed Zuiderwijk
Reply to  Paul
September 30, 2019 9:27 am

I doubt the second proposition.

old white guy
Reply to  Max Hugoson
September 30, 2019 5:48 am

What were Christ’s words, I never knew you.

john harmsworth
Reply to  Max Hugoson
September 30, 2019 6:47 am

Hey! Sales were down. They had to do something!

Oddgeir
Reply to  Max Hugoson
September 30, 2019 5:12 pm

No, this is a complete example of Church hijacking anything and everything they find useful to remain relevant.

Oddgeir

Dareck Edgerton
Reply to  Max Hugoson
September 30, 2019 6:57 pm

What’s next..She Lay’s a Golden Turd…and feeds the Hungry…..

Helen
Reply to  Max Hugoson
September 30, 2019 11:04 pm

The day this Puppet was performing her show in the UNClimate Circus 500 Scientists WAS DELIVERING A LETTER TO UN SAYING THERE IS NO CLIMATE EMERGENCY
But they weren’t invited by UNGA to the Summit. Their scientific truth is Inconvenient for the UN goals of Agenda21 and Agenda2030 that is a control tyranny over everything
https://youtu.be/GpVBH-HY5Ow

Lil Miss Placed
Reply to  Max Hugoson
October 2, 2019 5:32 pm

Jezebel has been proclaimed the nw Christ!
What a surprise!…..
Doesn’t “ Ant-Christ “ mean “ in place of Christ”?
Just goes to show you that the church Swedish church has reject Jesus Christ.
It’s doomed.

John Haversmith
Reply to  Max Hugoson
October 2, 2019 6:48 pm

LOL they expect someone who can’t even drink or drive to lead policy debate in the 21st century? Really!?! Do the eco-fascists think we’re stupid?

Gamecock
September 29, 2019 2:31 pm

She needs three miracles. Maybe she can do a couple of card tricks.

Reply to  Gamecock
September 29, 2019 3:11 pm

But will get the 7 plagues in case of not paying attention.

Rocketscientist
Reply to  Krishna Gans
September 30, 2019 7:52 am

We are suffering a plague of idiots right now!

Michael Jankowski
Reply to  Gamecock
September 29, 2019 4:13 pm

She can see CO2…miracle #1 is accounted for!

John Murphy
Reply to  Michael Jankowski
September 29, 2019 5:51 pm

But she can’t identify carbon in carbon fibre and kevlar, so that offsets the CO2 visibility.

Shoshin
Reply to  Gamecock
September 29, 2019 4:19 pm

She turned Justin Trudeau from white to black to white to brown to white to black to white. Looks like a miracle to me!

Tom
September 29, 2019 2:32 pm

As a Christian I have no words ~ this proclamation is beyond blasphemous.
As a human with a working brain ~ I am speechless.

God help us all.

Carole
Reply to  Tom
September 29, 2019 2:42 pm

Absolutely! Just unbelievable!

Bryan A
Reply to  Carole
September 29, 2019 4:16 pm

Say 3 Our Fathers, 4 Hail Marys, and 5 Re-Gretas as penance for your lack of faith in AGW

Pat Lane
Reply to  Bryan A
September 29, 2019 7:51 pm

“Re-Gretas” Brilliant!

jorgekafkazar
Reply to  Tom
September 29, 2019 3:02 pm

End of Days must be nigh, Tom.

GoatGuy
Reply to  Tom
September 29, 2019 3:05 pm

Take it from me … it doesn’t translate from Swedish to English faithfully (err… pun?) I tried and tried to learn one of the Scandinavian language (Danish), and it is a most amusing bidirectional conversion problem.

Of course, not privvy to the orginal Swedish, one can only surmise … that “embodiment of Jesus” is only half the image, the other being the implied “living a righteous life, in the model He gave”.

So…
Just saying…

GoatGuy ✓

MarkG
Reply to  Tom
September 29, 2019 3:15 pm

It’s OK. Few churches are actually Christian these days; most of them are being worn as skin-suits by SJWs.

But this does show just how absurd Clown World is becoming. Honk honk for Jesus!

BobW in NC
Reply to  Tom
September 29, 2019 5:09 pm

As another evangelical, orthodox Christian, I totally agree that this “church” is not only heretical in its “teaching”, but blasphemous and apostate.

God help and rescue us. Come Lord Jesus!

Richard of NZ
Reply to  BobW in NC
September 30, 2019 4:41 am

You think you have problems. As a non-deist I have major problems with this “church” and their inability to follow their purported teachings.

John M Brunette, Jr.
Reply to  Tom
September 30, 2019 8:51 am

You will be required to wear the “mark” next.

jtom
September 29, 2019 2:35 pm

Probably the most sacrilegious statement I have ever heard from a church.

Big T
Reply to  jtom
September 29, 2019 2:47 pm

Ignore this, a cult should never be taken seriously.

M Courtney
September 29, 2019 2:36 pm

The difference is that Jesus knew what he was talking about and was willing to question the authorities about the received wisdom, even at a young age.

Reference: Luke Ch 2 vs 46-47

After three days they found him in the temple courts, sitting among the teachers, listening to them and asking them questions. Everyone who heard him was amazed at his understanding and his answers.

Nicholas McGinley
Reply to  M Courtney
September 29, 2019 3:13 pm

Jesus also, as far as I know, never went around ranting and raving about how he would never forgive people.
In fact I seem to recall he had quite a contrary message to Greta’s.
She must be the angry Old Testament version.

John Sandhofner
September 29, 2019 2:38 pm

How sad that a church would drop this low to make such an outlandish suggestion.

Ozonebust
September 29, 2019 2:39 pm

From the link below

The term pedophrasty is a relatively new word — not currently accepted by an official dictionary — but that has a powerful meaning in today’s political and media environment. Pedophrasty is an “argument involving children to prop up a rationalization and make the opponent look like an asshole, as people are defenseless and suspend all skepticism in front of suffering children: nobody has the heart to question the authenticity or source of the reporting. Often done with the aid of pictures.” We have seen this tactic employed by both the left and the right sides of the political spectrum and it is, unfortunately, highly effective.

If you’ve turned on your television this week, you’ve likely seen 16-year-old climate activist Greta Thunberg. No one here at the Free Thought Project are climate scientists, so we will abstain from commenting on her agenda. However, neither is she. But I digress. The political and mainstream media machine’s exploitation of Thunberg is a perfect example of pedophrasty.

If Thunberg’s activism actually wakes people up to pollution and incites a peaceful and a voluntarily implemented environmental benefit — without ushering in a tyrannical climate change police state — we fully support her endeavors. Wanting to save the world is a noble cause and if children want to try to do that, by all means, have at it—just don’t take away anyone’s life or liberty in the process.

The subsequent sh*t storm that was sparked online by Thunberg’s coverage — entailing both support and hatred — however, is a different story. It served as a perfect distraction to things that actually matter in our lives. As videos of Thunberg meeting with Barack Obama went viral (I’ll get to that irony in just a second), extremely important events unfolded around us, which were entirely ignored by the mainstream media.

Before I list these major stories passed over by the media, I would be remiss if I failed to point out the irony of the Obama/Thunberg meeting. Sorry.

Barack Obama advocated for, approved, and oversaw eight wars in various different countries which brought death and destruction to millions of innocent people. Under his watch, tens of thousands of war heads fell all over the Middle East ensuring a lifetime of pollution and suffering for the people who managed not to be blown up by them. What’s more, under his (and yes, Trump’s too) presidency, the US military contributed more pollution to the planet than 140 countries, combined. This has made the United States military the largest polluter on the planet. But, by all means, he fist-bumped Greta, so, all good man.

Back to the point.

As the media circus distracted and divided the masses, major stories unfolded and we felt it necessary to cover them. Below is that list…………………………
https://www.blacklistednews.com/article/74904/5-stories-the-media-ignored-while-dividing-the-country-with-greta.html

Jeffrey P Price
Reply to  Ozonebust
September 29, 2019 3:20 pm

Well said…

ЯΞ√ΩLUT↑☼N
Reply to  Ozonebust
September 29, 2019 10:56 pm

There’s a reason they’ve always been called “poster children” through the ages. Then when you disagree with the message of the party they’re associated with, you’re attacked as if killing the messenger, the poor child. Leftards are good at this deflection.

Bill Murphy
Reply to  Ozonebust
September 30, 2019 8:55 am

I see no reason to coin new words like “pedophrasty” when the situation with Greta is thoroughly covered by the old term, Child exploitation. Which is defined as “…the act of using a minor child for profit, labor, sexual gratification, or some other personal or financial advantage.” Her parents are both second rate actors and must certainly be aware that encouraging their child’s delusions (“seeing” CO2) and paranoia (“we’re all doomed”) and thrusting her on to the world stage can only enhance their otherwise mostly failed careers. I suspect they are hoping for a call from Leo D. while busily depositing all the donations that are coming in from around the world. Meanwhile, in a few millennia when the Milankovitch cycle has run its course and the ice sheets are scrubbing every trace of civilization off the face of Sweden, none of this will matter at all.

Sunny
September 29, 2019 2:44 pm

Lolol this made my month… what will her green friends say now 😂

Mark Broderick
September 29, 2019 2:45 pm

WOW! What an insult to Christians around the world !
Anthony is right…..They are N.U.T.S. !

Gordon Dressler
September 29, 2019 2:45 pm

Amen!

Or, as Pharaoh commanded in the movie the Ten Commandments, “So let it be written, so let it be done!”

Pop Piasa
Reply to  Gordon Dressler
September 29, 2019 3:41 pm

Yeah, but I still got chewed on by the preacher when everybody else said “amen” and I said “git ‘er done”.

Bruce of Newcastle
September 29, 2019 2:47 pm

Isn’t the successor of Christ the Antichrist?
I don’t think they thought this one through quite carefully enough…

Carl Friis-Hansen
Reply to  Bruce of Newcastle
September 29, 2019 4:21 pm

I have seen many using the word Antichrist in comments on several large Swedish sites.
The thing is, as my now long dead mother used to say after WWII: “The Swedish are so bravely neutral.” The never engaged actively in the defense against The Third Reich, the Swedish weapon manufacturer Bofors sold cannons to Hitler, etc. The Swedish common population, on the other hand, were kind of good, as they hosted Jewish refugees from Denmark. What I fear, is that the Swedish general population tend to never, or very seldom, really object loudly to whatever the government is doing. Compare that to the French! So there are crowd in Sweden who are discussed with praise Greta Thunberg is getting, but their voices are muted. When you apply for work in Sweden, your CV shall foremost contain your social viewpoint and your spare time activities. When I, some years ago applied for a Danish job in Greenland, I was asked about my engineering experience and the employer would not hear about anything else.
So that the church is naming her the new Jesus and that the Swedish government has just decided to give extra 8 billion Swedish kroner (800million US dollar) per year from 2020 to 2023 after listening to Greta Thunberg’s speech and getting Alternative Nobel Price, will most likely not lead to any public row – Swedes are so bravely neutral.

Jeff Labute
September 29, 2019 2:51 pm

Obviously the church of Sweden doesn’t know Jesus.

Reply to  Jeff Labute
September 29, 2019 3:09 pm

This is not the Church of Sweden speaking. Limhamn is a suburb of Malmo. It seems to have been an account run by Jonas Parsson, ward pastor. But he closed the account 7 Dec, 2018.

pekke
Reply to  Nick Stokes
September 29, 2019 5:26 pm

But swedish archbishop Jackelen thinks Greta is like a old testament prophet

https://www.expressen.se/nyheter/klimat/arkebiskop-antje-jackelen-greta-ar-profetisk/?fbclid=IwAR3rjoxIE5OXHQXTJNUtcmYEK6yW9vKUv7jp7k7P6scZTMemLwI9cXj8pKk

Swedish Church goes all in on the climate train.

Olof R
Reply to  Nick Stokes
September 30, 2019 12:50 am

Yes Nick,
It was a twitter account of an independent parish, run by independent employees, that tried to spread the Christian message through witty tweets.
The Greta tweet was too much and aroused anger, especially among people associated with the Sweden Democrats, a xenophobic party with nazi roots, and the parish decided short after to shut down the twitter account. (This happened last year)
Needless to say, climate skeptiscism has it’s strongest base in these extreme right-wing environments, and a common trait among totalitarians is that they lack a sense of humour..

Hermit.Oldguy
Reply to  Olof R
October 1, 2019 9:59 pm

The Nazis were far left – socialists.

John Endicott
Reply to  Nick Stokes
September 30, 2019 7:30 am

Nick Stokes
September 29, 2019 at 3:09 pm

This is not the Church of Sweden speaking. Limhamn is a suburb of Malmo. It seems to have been an account run by Jonas Parsson, ward pastor. But he closed the account 7 Dec, 2018

Which is 6 days *AFTER* the tweet in question “— Limhamns kyrka (@Limhamnskyrka) December 1, 2018”. Coincidence?

Bryan A
Reply to  John Endicott
September 30, 2019 9:29 am

Be it Old or New, It still is True

Sara
September 29, 2019 2:51 pm

I wondered how long it would take for this kind of heresy to come to the surface. Good grief!!!

I would like to remind anyone who doesn’t have a background in the Christian faith (any denomination) that the Pharisees wanted Jesus gone and asked the local Roman governor to arrest him. Pontius Pilatus was his name. At first he refused, because he viewed it as a local problem that should be handled by locals, and the phrase “washed his hands of it” was coined with that refusal, because he is reported to have done just that symbolically. But when they insisted, he had Jesus arrested and tried for treason, and executed by crucifixion at Golgatha. Before this happened, Jesus was credited with performing several miracles, e.g., the endless stream of fish when the catch had been sparse that day, instant healing on request, etc.

So, if the Church of Sweden is declaring this teenager to be the successor to Jesus, where are her miracles? She has NONE. ZERO. NADA. ZILCH. ZIP. She just gets publicity that will wear off when she’s no longer a “thing” for the media to idolize. What’s next? Crusade marches to stop something that isn’t happening? Will she don armor and take up a sword and fight the invisible gases that only she can see?

You can’t really compare her to Jeanne d”Arc, who may or may not have been psychotic but was charismatic enough to lead Charles VII’s soldiers against the English. She was viewed as a troublesome individual who would be able to continue to successfully lead the French against the Brits, and was turned over to them, tried for witchcraft and heresy (for saying that God told her to do what she did) and executed.

Greta Thunberg has made ZERO claims of the kind that would put her in the position the Church of Sweden wants to elevate her to. Therefore, I find this announcement to be a very bad idea. Very bad. So bad that, in fact, if they asked me I would tell them that I view it as heresy of the worst kind.

Photios
Reply to  Sara
September 29, 2019 5:20 pm

‘She was viewed as a troublesome individual who would be able
to continue to successfully lead the French against the Brits…’

I think you mean ‘…against the English’. The Scots were on her side.
When she entered Orléans in 1429, it was to the skirl of the pipes.
Sir Patrick Ogilvy of Auchterhouse, Sheriff of Angus, led her escort.
The Bishop of the Orleans was one John Carmichael from Lanarkshire.
He had fought at the Battle of Bauge in 1421 (eight years before),
when three hundred Scots held up ten thousand Englishmen at a ford;
where the Earl of Buchan killed the Duke of Clarence (Henry V’s brother),
thereby saving the French Army from destruction through a broken truce.

Please do not study the history of these times in books written by Englishmen.

2hotel9
Reply to  Photios
September 29, 2019 5:49 pm

Are you speaking of Joan? A perfect example of others using one who is mentally challenged.

Photios
Reply to  2hotel9
September 29, 2019 6:48 pm

I am quoting the post immediately above mine.
The quotation marks I use are intended as the key clue.

2hotel9
Reply to  Photios
September 30, 2019 6:01 am

And the point is still that Joan is a perfect example of others using a mentally challenged person for their personal and political gain. See how that works? Just a point, no quotation marks needed.

Photios
Reply to  Photios
September 30, 2019 4:48 pm

She broke the siege of Orléans, with Scottish help,
and saved France from the English.
You clearly disapprove.
Why? Are you English?

2hotel9
Reply to  Photios
October 1, 2019 5:20 pm

She was used by others to advance their own ends, then she was burned. Get it yet. Same fate awaits St Greta, only they will claim her death a suicide.

Photios
Reply to  Photios
October 2, 2019 6:19 am

Jeanne D’Arc was not burned by those whose ends she advanced. She was burned by those whose ends she opposed. Her advice to the French, who were at the end of their tether, was both practical and effective. That is why the English demonised her and the French canonised her. Her case is utterly unlike that of Greta Thunberg.
Get it yet?
Goodbye.

2hotel9
Reply to  Photios
October 3, 2019 5:44 am

So you admit she was used and then burned once no longer useful. Get it yet? Buhbye.

Photios
Reply to  Photios
September 29, 2019 6:01 pm

I should add, the tune the pipes were playing was ‘Hey Tutti Taiti’,
also known as ‘The March of the Soldiers of Robert Bruce’.
It was played at the Battle of Bannockburn in 1314.
In France it is known as ‘Hymne de St Jeanne D’Arc’.
An excellent Franco-Scots rendition may be heard at:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLdoWQ1RNOY

It was to this tune that Robert Burns set ‘Scot Whae hae…’

Sara
Reply to  Photios
September 29, 2019 7:42 pm

Sorry, I DID mean the English, but I frequently refer to them as Brits. Sorry I wasn’t clear. My bad!

Photios
Reply to  Sara
September 30, 2019 4:54 pm

🙂

David Hartley
Reply to  Photios
September 30, 2019 10:28 pm

Then handed over to the English by the Burgundian faction.

Careful Greta dear else Uncle Al will hang you out to dry.

Howard Dewhirst
September 29, 2019 2:51 pm

A sign

J Mac
Reply to  Howard Dewhirst
September 29, 2019 3:40 pm

Howard,
How did you get that video to post correctly, rather than just as a url/link?
Inquiring minds need to know….

Pop Piasa
Reply to  J Mac
September 29, 2019 4:44 pm

The link must be on its own line without any other text or links.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Howard Dewhirst
September 29, 2019 4:22 pm

Alright I AM the messiah! now F*** OFF!

My favorite movie line of all time.

GeoCynic
September 29, 2019 2:55 pm

All of a piece!
Unfortunately, the institutions that previously underpinned our society seemingly actively seek to reduce their credibility and reliability by bowdlerising their key messages. Christianity turns to paganism and Gaia theory, and science becomes post modern, so that facts are now subjective, methodology is passe’ and Occams Razor is thrown out when the facts don’t fit the theory.

Sheri
September 29, 2019 2:55 pm

The insanity never ends, does it?

MarkW
Reply to  Sheri
September 29, 2019 5:57 pm

It just gets insanier.

Gordon Dressler
September 29, 2019 2:55 pm

This is absolutely fantastic news!

All her holiness Greta needs to do to save humanity is to outperform Christ with respect to His first reported miracle, the transformation of water into wine (Bible, John 2:1-11). Greta needs to immediately transform CAGW into mint ice cream.

Our (climate) salvation is at hand . . . and not a moment to early according to AOC, Prince Charles and others.

mike the morlock
Reply to  Gordon Dressler
September 29, 2019 3:39 pm

Gordon Dressler September 29, 2019 at 2:55 pm

Greta needs to immediately transform CAGW into mint ice cream.

Heresy you blasphemous Philistine ! It must be Chocolate! Chocolate I say. Now where are my matches.
;-0
michael

Greg Cavanagh
Reply to  mike the morlock
September 29, 2019 5:10 pm

Some people are allergic to chocolate, and diabetics can’t have ice cream. I think that leaves COFFEE.

SMC
Reply to  Greg Cavanagh
September 29, 2019 5:58 pm

As long as she leaves the beer alone, it’s all good.

Brian Hames
Reply to  mike the morlock
October 5, 2019 5:20 pm

Oct 5, 2019 Russia’s Pundits On Greta Thunberg: If She Wants To Live Eco Life, Send Her To Amish Community!

Swedish schoolgirl Greta Thunberg has launched a global climate strike and then threw a rant at the podium of the General Assembly.

https://youtu.be/SBd6Uj_AGX8

Sara
Reply to  Gordon Dressler
September 29, 2019 5:13 pm

No! Not Chocolate! It must be premium vanilla, with so much vanilla in it that you nearly faint from the scent of it! Topped with heavy chocolate sauce, it becomes Food of the Godssss!!!!! Chocolate ice cream comes next.

And don’t forget the wafers. They’re important, too. Vanilla, chocolate sauce, and wafers…..

TomRude
September 29, 2019 2:57 pm

Yet another piece of Greta glorification by the CBC:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/how-greta-thunberg-s-autism-helps-give-her-a-singular-focus-1.5301634

“Greta Thunberg has met with world leaders, had an audience with the pope and made an impassioned plea to the United Nations. She’s done it all in the public eye, facing down trolls and sounding off against politicians, an impressive feat for any teenager. (…) She calls her autism her “superpower.” She has a clear message: she succeeds not in spite of her disability, but because of it. (…) “For those of us who are on the spectrum, almost everything is black or white,” she said at a TEDx Talk in Stockholm in November 2018. To Thunberg, climate change is a black and white issue: It’s bad and it needs to be stopped now.”

The two journalists, Ioanna Roumeliotis (senior reporter) and Melissa Mancini (junior) do not embarrass themselves with mundane questions such as how a 16 y old could have been propelled to ultra-secured Davos to the Pope and the UN in about one year without enormous establishment support, or how a math, physics, earth science high school education allows a 16 y old to differentiate good and bad science. No! Such logical questions belong to trolls, to unbelievers, since we are in the realm of cult.
Indeed, Greta’s autism is “superpower” and her chance is to see “almost everything [as] black and white”, which is concerning when facing the subtleties of real science, not the caricature presented by medias such as the CBC.

“It’s a voice that’s refreshing for Anne Borden King and her Baxter, 9, who are both autistic. They traveled from Toronto to Montreal on Friday to march in the country’s largest climate strike. (…) People with autism are often literal thinkers and it’s the simplicity and purity of Thunberg’s message that is resonating so widely, because it doesn’t waver. That appeals to everyone, especially younger people who tend to see the world in less nuanced ways.”

The article does not indicate if these autistic Torontonians walked, biked or swam, let alone drove, took the train or flew for their day trip to Montreal… As long as they identify with Greta, who cares?
Indeed, no need to try unearthing conspiracy theories here, one just needs to read the admirers’ prose to understand, that it is precisely because of her condition that this Greta character has been carefully groomed and chosen for this worldwide PR job.
One can think of many historical figures fitting the “simplicity and purity of message” description, many of them whose influence on youth and not so young brought misery to the world. But not for CBC journalists, hagiographers of the Greta gospel, for whom eyes and reason wide shut is the sine qua non condition to successful careers.

Sara
Reply to  TomRude
September 29, 2019 5:17 pm

– her chance is to see “almost everything [as] black and white”…. Ah! Then what color is the carbon dioxide that she claims to see??

ЯΞ√ΩLUT↑☼N
Reply to  Sara
September 29, 2019 11:09 pm

I’m wondering what her medical records say. Until it’s verified I’m accepting her “condition” as alleged, much like Obummer’s “berth” certificate because they can say what they like. At least Greta’s handlers don’t claim she was born in Kenya, yet.

Craig from Oz
Reply to  TomRude
September 29, 2019 6:03 pm

The lack of self awareness with these people is bemusing. Do they not read their own copy?

Take for example;

“She calls her autism her “superpower.” She has a clear message: she succeeds not in spite of her disability, but because of it. ”

… and compare to all the How Dare You!!! shouts when anyone even suggests that Greta is mentally disabled. Add into this the entire ‘black and white’ logic argument. Either Nordic Thanos is mentally disabled and we should not use this to attack the poor innocent sensitive child, or she is mentally blessed with powers us mortals cannot even comprehend and we should not question this superior gifted and commanding child. Which one is it? You are pushing the joys of a binary universe where your correct answer seems to be ‘both’.

Also worth observing is this little gem;

“That appeals to everyone, especially younger people who tend to see the world in less nuanced ways.”

Young people lack nuance? So when the rational mass claims Greta is a total fruit cake who lacks the life experience and education to fully comprehend what she is demanding because in the Real World there are no simple solutions to self invented complex problems, the Shrills counter that children should be listened to because their pure and simple souls are not corrupted by the life experiences and education?

This is what these people are suggesting. That because children still have innocent minds they see things in easy simple terms. Seriously? Because they don’t know what they are talking about, we need to listen to them?!

Lack of self awareness is strong with these people.

TomRude
Reply to  Craig from Oz
September 29, 2019 7:01 pm

Indeed, frightening isn’t it…

Otteryd
Reply to  TomRude
October 1, 2019 10:12 am

Stephen of Cloyes in France for one in C13. and Nicholas of Cologne in Germany around the same time – look what happened to their young followers. Greta’s hordes of school children need to keep their wits about them.

RonS
September 29, 2019 2:58 pm

Good. Go back to where you came from. Take a jet home.

TG McCoy
September 29, 2019 3:01 pm

Isn’t the Church of Sweden a Lutheran body? Next the american ELCA will declare her a saint..
(My Lutheran roots go back to the reformation itself…But this is why I left the church..)

Shoki Kaneda
September 29, 2019 3:04 pm

I would not stand near these folks in a storm.

J Mac
September 29, 2019 3:06 pm

Christ taught forgiveness. I’m struggling with that right now…..
On a positive note, I guess we know now what the real religion of the Church of Sweden is!

Bob Koss
September 29, 2019 3:08 pm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Sweden

“The Church of Sweden (Swedish: Svenska kyrkan) is an Evangelical Lutheran national church in Sweden. A former state church, headquartered in Uppsala, with 5.9 million baptised members at year end 2018 it is the largest Christian denomination in Sweden.”

I guess they decided their membership is too large.

Reply to  Bob Koss
September 29, 2019 3:56 pm

This is not the Church of Sweden speaking. Limhamn is a suburb of Malmo. It seems to have been an account run by Jonas Persson, ward pastor. But he the account was declared inactive 7 Dec, 2018.

Bryan A
Reply to  Nick Stokes
September 29, 2019 4:26 pm

stehporp eslaf ynam eb lliw ereht ,syad fo dne eht erofeB

Greg Cavanagh
Reply to  Bryan A
September 29, 2019 5:14 pm

At least she didn’t declare herself a stehporp. Not yet anyway.

Michael Jankowski
Reply to  Nick Stokes
September 29, 2019 4:29 pm

Yeah someone had the sense to put a stop to that stupidity thank God.

Bob Koss
Reply to  Nick Stokes
September 29, 2019 5:18 pm

Thanks Nick. Nice to see they haven’t gone completely bonkers.

Bryan A.
I put your comment into Google Translate and it was detected as being Welsh. (One word was changed.) That was when I realized you wrote the words backwards. Heh.

Bryan A
Reply to  Bob Koss
September 29, 2019 6:09 pm

Never thought about trying that. Gotta love Google

James Kent
September 29, 2019 3:09 pm

Funny how Jesus’ “successor”, Greta Humbug, sorry I meant Thunberg, flounders without a script to read from. Despite her hysterical rhetoric at the UN, she has nothing to say unless someone kindly types it all out for her in advance.

I don’t think Jesus had that problem.

Nicholas McGinley
Reply to  James Kent
September 29, 2019 6:12 pm

That is just embarrassing.
Golly and gosh.
She could not think of one thing to say, extemporaneously.
So it is clear…she is an actor reading a script.

James Kent
Reply to  Nicholas McGinley
September 29, 2019 7:43 pm

Yes, funny that. Her handlers must have cringed. They must have known she wouldn’t cope with impromptu questioning.

Now where have we seen that kind of thing before? Oh yes, at Robert Mueller’s House Judiciary Committee hearing on July 24. The Democrats must have cringed as well, as they watched poor old Mueller flounder when they forced him into an impromptu setting completely unprepared (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EbrfiAxjY0).

This sort of thing happens when a wholly dishonest ideology lies is at the heart of a political movement. Hence the reliance on a mantra.

Robertvd
Reply to  Nicholas McGinley
September 30, 2019 5:47 am

Obama

MarkH
September 29, 2019 3:10 pm

I’m not particularly religious and I found this sacrilegious.

There is a possible silver lining though. It will expose this madness to yet another group who have otherwise paid little attention.

The original Greta Tantrum at the UN and the ensuing media coverage exposed the tactics of the alarmists to many who had previously been unaware or ambivalent.

Now is a particularly good time to offer more clues to those whose curiosity has been piqued.

September 29, 2019 3:15 pm

What they dare……. 😀 😀

Mike Smith
September 29, 2019 3:19 pm

Dang, they proved me wrong again. Yes, they broke their own incredible record for stupidity.

How will they top that?

Greg Cavanagh
Reply to  Mike Smith
September 29, 2019 5:15 pm

Give it a week and we’ll see.

TomRude
September 29, 2019 3:23 pm

“Pepe Escobar
That pretty much sums it all up. The Icy Stare Muse of the Khmer Verts – yes, the green equivalent of Pol Pot’s Khmer Rouge – could not be a more pristinely manufactured consent product. Oh well, fully supported by Swedish Big Industry and the inevitable Soros scam. To hell with scientists interpreting serious data. The day when the Icy Stare demonizer of the Global South denounces the Pentagon as the world’s top polluter she might – just might – sound credible. Don’t count on the ones who write her script to make it happen.”
Right on!

Gunga Din
September 29, 2019 3:27 pm

The one and Christ said in Matthew 24: 23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. (Mat 24:23-26 KJV)

So, if you’re a Christian and your church tells you there’s another “christ”, time to find another church.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Gunga Din
September 29, 2019 4:36 pm

Or just ignore them all, like I do.

Davis
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
September 29, 2019 5:07 pm

Why? Bible prophecy IS being fulfilled.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Davis
September 29, 2019 6:14 pm

That’s what they’ve been saying since day one. They keep moving the prophecies along, kinda like CAGW.

Davis
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
September 29, 2019 6:57 pm

This prophecy, Matthew 24: 23-27.

At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. See, I have told you ahead of time. So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.

NIV

jorgekafkazar
Reply to  Davis
September 29, 2019 11:18 pm

I used to think Hal Lindsay was totally off the wall. Now I’m not so sure.

Joe Chang
September 29, 2019 3:28 pm

Just what Europe needs, another round of Catholics vs Huguenots

Richard Patton
September 29, 2019 3:32 pm

The church of Sweden is so apostate that they effectively said Jesus was a liar when he said “no one comes to the Father but by me” by saying that Muslims (who deny Jesus said that) would go to heaven without Jesus.

Richard S Courtney
Reply to  Richard Patton
September 30, 2019 4:53 am

Richard Patton,

Jesus was talking about Himself when He said, “no one comes to the Father but by me”. The decision is His, not yours and not that of any church.

So, if Jesus decides to take to the Father a Muslim, a Jew, a Hindu or any other person then that is His decision which you have no ability – and no right – to alter (Thanks be to God).

Richard

Hermit.Oldguy
Reply to  Richard S Courtney
October 1, 2019 10:13 pm

If a statement can be read to mean A, or not-A, then it has ne meaning at all!

Richard S Courtney
Reply to  Hermit.Oldguy
October 2, 2019 12:53 am

Hermit.Oldguy,

What you say is true. And any statement can be misrepresented.

However, the statement under discussion is clear in its context and meaning. Please don’t take my word for this but check it for yourself, instead.

Richard

Al Miller
September 29, 2019 3:33 pm

I love it! They actually have no clue how dumb they are do they. This is perfect. There’s no need to say that AGW is a religion anymore. They are doing it for us!
All that is aside from the fact that her parents should be in jail for child abuse.

H.R.
September 29, 2019 3:35 pm

Now I know how she’s going to get back to Sweden. She’ll just walk across the Atlantic.

David Chappell
Reply to  H.R.
September 29, 2019 8:33 pm

I’d been wondering about how she is going to get home. I’d assumed she would walk via Canada, Alaska, short swim across to Siberia and then she’s on the home straight through Russia. At least she’d learn that the world is not about to burn up.

shortus cynicus
Reply to  David Chappell
September 30, 2019 5:14 am

Do you claim th Earth is round? … strange people here.

boffin77
Reply to  H.R.
September 30, 2019 3:42 pm

Hah!
I like it

David Hartley
September 29, 2019 3:38 pm

Doesn’t this fit in with another religious statement from the cult ie: that the system will keep looping and looping and getting hotter and hotter? In other words join the cult or you’ll burn in hell, always sounded to me like a cheap Christian tent revivalist.

Writing that reminded me of Burt Lancaster in Elmer Gantry lol crikey haven’t seen that since I was about 12 and tv’s in the UK were all monochrome. Good film if my young critical faculties were correct. 🙂

slow to follow
September 29, 2019 3:38 pm

“Martin Hultman is a lecturer in technology, science and environmental studies at Chalmers University of Technology, Sweden,

and an expert in climate denialism.

He is currently working on a project examining the formulation and spread of conspiracy theories around Greta Thunberg.”

https://www.newsweek.com/climate-change-denialists-hate-activists-vulnerability-1461543

Greg Cavanagh
Reply to  slow to follow
September 29, 2019 5:22 pm

He’s an expert in climate denialism? Well that fully destroys the value of an expert doesn’t it. How did clueless turn into expert?

“He is currently working on a project examining the formulation and spread of conspiracy theories around Greta Thunberg.” Now that’s a job I could get into. So much fun to make up whatever you wanted and get paid for it. I want a job like that.

Greg Cavanagh
Reply to  slow to follow
September 29, 2019 5:31 pm

When you read to the end of the article, the man has some seriously scary ideas about forcing laws into place across the world. Not a nice person at all.

Abolition Man
Reply to  Greg Cavanagh
September 29, 2019 6:35 pm

Mr. Cavanagh,
Thank you for your application to become a journalist. Unfortunately, you don’t seem to have the qualifications to fill the position desired. In our investigation into your past we found that you frequented WUWT and so, obviously, have a brain! This is a major disqualification for anyone hoping enter the field of urinalism; especially yellow urinalism!! Good luck with your job search.

September 29, 2019 3:41 pm

Many Swedes have gone completely nuts and are busy destroying their own country with ill-advised immigration. Proclaiming Climate activist Greta Thunberg the “Successor of Christ” adds to their achievements.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
September 30, 2019 4:48 am

the funny thing is
Malmo from what Ive read and seen pics of is an area overtaken by muslim immigrnts and an area where the swedish police refuse to go, the surroundings of some of the highrises looks like a rubbish dump, with gang members all hanging round to guard it.

John Endicott
Reply to  ozspeaksup
September 30, 2019 7:38 am

you me “no go zones” are real? Try telling that to a leftist.

Kenan Meyer
September 29, 2019 3:43 pm

I googled it and actually it’s not the church of Sweden, but just some member, probably the pastor of a church in Malmo.

Craig Moore
September 29, 2019 3:57 pm

As I posted on another thread, she should head to East Glacier Montana where they have received 4 feet of snow since Friday night. Montana governor has declared a state of emergency.

Tom D
September 29, 2019 4:15 pm

I’ve been calling her The Virgin Greta, but I guess I was aiming too low!

Hail Greta,
Full of Angst,
The Commies are with thee . . .

Pray for us Deniers,
Now and at the hour the World Ends.

How Dare We!?

Admin
September 29, 2019 4:16 pm

For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many.

Matthew 24:5

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Eric Worrall
September 29, 2019 4:41 pm

Maybe the original was the deception. a lot of people were taken in.

Davis
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
September 29, 2019 5:16 pm

1 Corinthians 2: 13-14.

This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words. The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit.

NIV

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Davis
September 29, 2019 6:21 pm

A pre-emptive prophecy strike, eh? Doesn’t make it true.

MarkW
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
September 29, 2019 6:01 pm

Do people willingly die for a deception?
All but one of the apostles died a violent death.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  MarkW
September 29, 2019 6:15 pm

MarkW, a great many have.

MarkW
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
September 29, 2019 6:58 pm

How many of them were the originators of the deception. The ones who actually knew it was deception.

Do you intend to answer honestly, or does dodging and weaving suit your purpose better?

Davis
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
September 29, 2019 7:04 pm

Not knowingly. All the apostles knew what they were dying for, and went willingly. They had nothing to gain by dying the ways they did. Even Jesus’ brother James, did not believe until after Jesus’ death and resurrection, and was put to death for his beliefs.

jorgekafkazar
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
September 29, 2019 11:26 pm

In most cases, all the Apostles had to do was drop a pinch of incense into a flame on the altar of Caesar. They died terrible deaths rather than do so. This was not the action of a hoaxer.

Admin
Reply to  MarkW
September 29, 2019 7:27 pm

Greens are not even willing to give up air travel…

Don Perry
Reply to  MarkW
September 29, 2019 9:15 pm

Yep, they sure do. Jonestown, Heaven’s Gate, Branch Davidians, etc, etc.

Troe
September 29, 2019 4:18 pm

Will the last Christian in Sweden please bring the crucifix on your way out. In the USA our political situation has the Weimar pallor . Whatever post Depression consensus may have existed is now dissipated. We can not reconcile with absurdist irrationality as an acceptable way forward. Unless the fever breaks I believe it will get worse rather than better. Previously optimistic win or lose that seems an increasingly difficult attitude to maintain. Guess we’ll have to work harder.

Editor
September 29, 2019 4:32 pm

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!

Right-Handed Shark
September 29, 2019 4:35 pm

Nobody expects the Swedish Inquisition! Our chief weapon is surprise…surprise and fear…fear and surprise…. our two weapons are fear and surprise…and ruthless efficiency…. Our three weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency…and an almost fanatical devotion to computer models… Our four…no… amongst our weapons…. amongst our weaponry…are such elements as fear, surprise…. I’ll come in again. (exit and exeunt)

Magoo
September 29, 2019 4:38 pm

False prophet more like.

Magoo
Reply to  Magoo
September 29, 2019 5:21 pm

From the Church of Climatology of the Latter Day Goremans.

Tom in Florida
September 29, 2019 5:13 pm

Read the First Commandment…..over and over and over.

Magoo
September 29, 2019 5:20 pm

False Prophet more like.

Robert of Ottawa
September 29, 2019 5:20 pm

Wait a minute. Who said “Beware false prophets”?

2hotel9
September 29, 2019 5:31 pm

The people exploiting this mentally challenged child should all be in jail cells. What a bunch of sick f*cks.

Sara
September 29, 2019 5:33 pm

Fanaticism is one of the ugliest things that humans can become involved in. It is destructive, deadly and will lay waste to everything it touches. It starts with cults like this one that is forming. This is not religion. It is fanaticism that will grow and grow until or unless someone puts a stop to it.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Sara
September 29, 2019 6:22 pm

The only distinction I see between a cult and a religion is scale.

Richard S Courtney
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
September 30, 2019 5:06 am

Jeff Alberts,

You need o take of your blinkers: they are severely hindering what you can see.

Richard

Magoo
September 29, 2019 5:34 pm

Saint Greta’s Death Metal makeover. Suits her perfectly.

Magoo
Reply to  Magoo
September 29, 2019 5:55 pm

Heavy Gretal!!

PaulH
September 29, 2019 5:37 pm

And they wonder why church attendance is falling.

J Mac
September 29, 2019 5:50 pm

A song for those reGretables seeking the miss-guided millennial messiah of Climate Change:
Smashmouth – I’m A Believer

https://youtu.be/0mYBSayCsH0

Bruce Cobb
September 29, 2019 5:53 pm

Next, they’ll be making a golden calf. Sheesh! Where’s Moses when you need him?

jtom
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
September 29, 2019 8:34 pm

I suspect it will be a tofu calf, for obvious reasons.

And Moses will be at Longhorn Steakhouse.

September 29, 2019 6:00 pm

Okay, I’m just gonna say it:

Why the heck is WUWT giving Greta so much attention?

Bad publicity is still publicity. This is the third article in a short amount of time.

Enough with Greta. Stop giving her more fame. Ignore her.

Let’s talk about electricity in Earth’s atmosphere or something else that climate-doom-research-funding-mania is stealing dollars away from finding out more about.

John Endicott
Reply to  Robert Kernodle
September 30, 2019 7:52 am

Why? Because, like it or not, she’s in the MSM news coverage of climate. Enough with the concern trolling, WUWT that do multiple things at once. It can cover (and mock) the Greta thing *and* do the other kinds of stories that you claim are more to your liking. Don’t like the Greta thread(s)? then simply don’t read them! And yet, like lady Macbeth, you “protest too much” as here you are in the thread despite your complaints.

William Haas
September 29, 2019 6:12 pm

She is just a teenage actress with a general science education plus what her handlers have been telling her. I doubt that she is aware of controversies regarding the AGW conjecture. The big question is who are her handlers, who is writing her speeches, and why are they putting her through all of this? Who has been paying for her trip? According to her own admission, she should be back in school.

F. Ross
September 29, 2019 6:20 pm

As General McAuliffe said at Bastogne: ” Nuts!”

Abolition Man
September 29, 2019 6:20 pm

All the way down the comments I was praying someone would post Swedish Death Metal Greta. Oh, Magoo, you’ve done it again! Isn’t it great when you can’t tell the difference between comedy and the news? I think we just turned the corner on showing the insanity and hypocrisy of the Gorebull Warming fanatics!

Magoo
Reply to  Abolition Man
September 29, 2019 10:41 pm

“People are suffering,
People are dying,
Entire ecosystems are collapsing.
Arrrrggghhhh!!”🤘🤘🤘

Richard
September 29, 2019 6:33 pm

Yes that’s logical. Christ was crucified and his successor wants to crucify us

Лазо
September 29, 2019 6:38 pm

Along with Al Gore & Michael Mann, Greta Thunberg is but another “false prophet” that St. John warned us about in the Book of Revelations.

She keeps making those of us afflicted with Autism Spectrum cringe in misery.

Kentlfc
September 29, 2019 6:46 pm

She must be! Earliest snow seen in Sweden for 20 years!

Bemused Bill
September 29, 2019 6:47 pm

One good way to test the hypothesis that this vile child is the new Jesus would be to nail her to a cross and when she dies, see if she is resurrected.

James Kent
Reply to  Bemused Bill
September 29, 2019 7:45 pm

I nearly lost my coffee reading that! Stop it! LMAO!

Christopher Hanley
September 29, 2019 6:52 pm

Crucifixion would be the easy part, it’s the follow-up that would be clincher.

Tom in Florida
September 29, 2019 6:54 pm

I caught the end of their theme song and thought I heard:
“No phone, no lights, no motor car,
Not a single luxury
Like Robinson Crusoe
It’s primitive as can be.”
Now where have I heard that before?

Earthling2
September 29, 2019 7:01 pm

Greta Thunberg will flame out and fall back to earth, probably within a year or two, maybe sooner. She will be remembered like the Amazon fires last month, which was heavy in the global news and then poof, it was gone. I just hope some caring adults are giving her the proper support she will need, otherwise she might be a candidate to take her own life, seeing how used she has become by this climate charade. She has no future as a climate guru. This is all completely manufactured, just like the climate pronouncements of the IPCC and some of its scientists and supporters. This has finally turned to farce.

JustAnOldGuy
September 29, 2019 7:03 pm

I predict a significant increase in agnosticism and atheism as word of this spreads.

Stephen W
September 29, 2019 7:38 pm

When I was young I remember a Jehovahs Witness came to the door, and I actually spoke with them.

They read a part of the scripture that said Jesus would return when there are fires, floods, earthquakes etc ( this would have been the early 2000’s).
He said to me, and when has all this stuff been happening.
I said, forever.
He said no but when has it all been happening at once.
So I played along and said “now…”
He was excited and proclaimed that yes, now is when jesus will return.

The climate alarmists are no different to this JW.
They all think that this time is different to any time in the history of the earth.
That we are sinners and need redemption before the end of the earth.

September 29, 2019 8:17 pm

It appears that it was someone’s idea of a joke. It was tweeted Dec. 1, 2018:

Original:
🔔Lucka 1❄️
Kungörelse! Jesus från Nasaret har nu utsett en av sina efterträdare, nämligen Greta Thunberg.🌟

Google translated:
Door 1 ❄️
Announcement! Jesus of Nazareth has now appointed one of his successors, Greta Thunberg. 🌟
 

The joke obviously fell flat. The last thing posted on the Twitter account was an apology, five days later, Dec. 6, 2018:

Original:
Kära twitter, Har vi sårat någon ber vi om ursäkt, det har aldrig varit vår mening. Vår mening har varit att på vårt sätt tala om Jesus Kristus. Nu lämnar vi arenan. Tack för engagemang, glädje och debatt. Gud välsigne er! Jonas Persson, församlingsherde

Google translated:
Dear twitter, If we have hurt someone we apologize, it has never been our opinion. Our sense has been to talk about Jesus Christ in our own way. Now we leave the arena. Thank you for your commitment, joy and debate. God bless you! Jonas Persson, ward pastor

And the account description was changed to…
Original:
Detta konto är nu inte aktivt men stanna gärna till en stund och meditera över det som varit…

Google translated:
This account is now inactive but please stay for a while and meditate on what has been…

Josualdo
Reply to  Dave Burton
September 30, 2019 1:55 am

Ooof. What a relief. Next the Pope might make her Blessed Greta.

Toto
September 29, 2019 8:17 pm

We have reached peak Greta! That speech was a tipping point. The Swedish Death Metal YouTube version of it is right on. She should have stuck to the innocent child persona and not the angry vicious one.

Chris Hoff
September 29, 2019 10:03 pm

There’s a lot of Christians out there who stopped going to church a long time ago, about the time the Cultural Marxists took over and subverted the whole thing. They still read the bible and try to follow it, but they avoid organized religion like the plague.

n.n
September 29, 2019 10:06 pm

Christ did not normalize human sacrificial rites. Christ did not practice affirmative discrimination by low information attributes or color judgments. Christ did not conflate logical domains. Thunberg may want to reconsider her faith, quasi-religion, and ideological alignment.

Jeffrey P Price
September 29, 2019 10:33 pm

Look up the movie “The Bad Seed” She is here…

Flight Level
September 30, 2019 12:12 am

Nothing new under the sun.
Churches have a proven record of positive acceptance of science, never mind the resulting carbon footprint.

Patrick MJD
September 30, 2019 12:35 am

Apparently, Greta is being credited with the swing towards the Green vote in Austria.

Pat Maher
September 30, 2019 1:09 am

Jesus with pony tails

Jeroen B.
September 30, 2019 1:10 am

This is excellent news.

Check if your country has a legally defined separation between church and state.
If yes -> all “klimate krazy” just managed to label itself as a religious cult ….

bonbon
September 30, 2019 2:05 am

Those Swedes again, this time they beat the Pope to it!

Them Lutherans simply grabbed a saint all for themselves!

Must be something in the Bible against that.

Waiting to hear first from Tel Aviv, though. They have elections and all that.
Not a word yet from Riyad….

Steven Mosher
September 30, 2019 2:42 am
Kevin McGrane
Reply to  Steven Mosher
September 30, 2019 4:03 am

Steven Mosher is right – this is old news from 2018, surely not this week’s news.

John Endicott
Reply to  Kevin McGrane
September 30, 2019 7:46 am

For Mosh to be “right” he’d actually have to say *something*. He didn’t, he just posted a link. While you correctly determined that his is “old news” (IE a tweet from a twat back in 2018), it’s not from anything drive-by-Mosh actually said.

Bryan A
Reply to  Kevin McGrane
September 30, 2019 12:31 pm

Old or new, it’s still true

fretslider
September 30, 2019 3:11 am

If she is the new prophet Zarquon, why didn’t she jog across the Atlantic?

Ed Zuiderwijk
Reply to  fretslider
September 30, 2019 9:32 am

Or, if she is the new Jonah, why didn’t she hitch a ride on a whale?

FLR
September 30, 2019 5:30 am

Well, this is very old news. Within 7 days, Limhamns church stopped “twittering”.

Apparently, this pastor is a notorious communist who was active in the Swedish communist party before he became a priest. He had recently opined that Sweden should not fortify the island of Gotland, which is the first point of contact for a Russian invasion. Also supports islamic call to prayer… He also used the word “p****” with reference to female anatomy and also the Swedish equivalent in another tweet…. nice!

It is rather ironic since Limhamn is the most upscale part of greater Malmo with probably the fewest leftists.

ResourceGuy
September 30, 2019 5:46 am

Now we are getting the good litmus tests of sanity in climate scare for the general population. Fail!

ResourceGuy
September 30, 2019 8:43 am

John Wayne Gacy was a donor to the Dems in the Chicago machine and who apparently gave enough to get special consideration with the politicized prosecutor’s office before opening an investigation.

Ed Zuiderwijk
September 30, 2019 9:22 am

As an atheist I can say without any irony or alternate intention that Jesus Christ deserves better than that.

atticman
September 30, 2019 10:06 am

Will Greta be returning from the Americas on foot?

Steve Z
September 30, 2019 10:18 am

If little Greta thinks she’s a prophet, then let’s wait 10 years and see if her predictions come true. If not, then she’s a false “prophet”. Or one of the five foolish virgins who have no oil in their lamps.

ResourceGuy
September 30, 2019 12:10 pm

Behold, it was a miracle when she came into the meeting room at the UN through a hole in the roof. Well, it was either a miracle or poor maintenance at the UN building.

September 30, 2019 12:42 pm
Rudolf Huber
September 30, 2019 1:39 pm

Here we go. Holy Greta is Christ incarnate. Is there a limit to which those fanatics will not be ready to go?

ResourceGuy
September 30, 2019 2:19 pm

Where is Sweden will they build the first climate cathedral? Or will be an over lay on a previous religion like Muslim over Christian (Turkey), Christian over Muslim (Spain), communist over Muslim (internment camps), and Catholic over Inca (foundations only at Cuzco).

September 30, 2019 7:47 pm

It’s no longer difficult to show that CO2, although increasing, has nothing to do with our current warming. Alarmists, rather than taking advantage of earlier global warming data, have instead used a cherry-picked short-term correlation between CO2 and temperature from 1975 to the 2000s. (The IPCC admitted there was a temperature “hiatus” in the 2000s. There was a global cooling between 1945 and 1975.)

The only other argument favoring CO2 is, when added to a closed container, the temperature therein increases somewhat. However, the open atmosphere is hardly a closed container. Satellites detect heat escaping to space and closed containers do not experience planetary-level feedbacks.

The proponents of anthropogenic-caused global warming invariably DENY that the Medieval Warming Period (MWP, 1,000 years ago) was global and likely warmer than it is now. The alarmists acknowledge only that Europe experienced the MWP. (They had no choice – climate in that region is too well documented!) Alarmists apparently must take this unjustifiable position because their computer models cannot replicate the earlier global warmings. Their computer models require an increasing CO2 level, plus depend even more on yet another ASSUMPTION – that water vapor feedback is the actual culprit, causing 2 to 3 times the temperature increase brought on by the increase in CO2.

The global temperature increase during the MWP and the earlier global warmings could not have been influenced by CO2 because there was no increase in CO2, not during the MWP, nor during any of the earlier global warmings before the MWP. The problem for alarmists is that it becomes obvious that our current warming (such as it is) might also be due to NATURAL climate variation. That, of course, conflicts with Mann’s hockey stick graph. Mann recently lost a suit he brought against Dr. Tim Ball years ago. Mann must pay all of Dr Ball’s legal expenses. Mann succeeded in extending the duration of that lawsuit by delaying a dismissal, agreeing to provide his “work” but chose to ignore that requirement.

If there’s any doubt about Mann’s dubious hockey stick, it’s also easy to show (and easy to understand) that the MWP was both global and at least as warm as now. While that proves nothing directly about the cause of our current warming (such as it is) it speaks loudly about the credibility of the folks who DENY that the MWP was global and at least as warm as now. The link below provides an MWP global study, among other things.

https://principia-scientific.org/empirical-evidence-refutes-greenhouse-gas-theory/

Nonetheless the question remains. Why did the alarmists choose CO2 as the culprit when there is no evidence that CO2, a trace gas, has ever had any impact on our planet’s temperature? There was obviously some uncertainty. Phil Jones, one of the prominent alarmist players early during this issue, stated that if the MWP was global and as warm as now, then that was a “different ballgame”. They decided instead to deny that the MWP was global and at least as warm as now.

It’s obvious now, if not then, that a more rational approach would have involved a closer investigation of the earlier global warmings, particularly the MWP, before proceeding with speculation about CO2.

Some time ago Henrik Svensmark, a Danish physicist, and some associates, came up with a theory which does make use of, and explain, the historical data. Svensmark’s theory involves sun activity modulating the level of an otherwise rather steady steam of cosmic rays penetrating the lower atmosphere. (CERN certified some time ago that cosmic rays may influence cloud cover.) Until very recently we have been experiencing a high level of sun activity. A very low level of sun activity is now underway. If the sun remains inactive for a significant duration, Svensmark would expect a cooling.

At this stage of the game, whether or not Svensmark’s theory holds up, it appears that more attention needs to be directed at historical data, and increasing CO2 is no longer a concern for climatologists. Since that is the only current possibility for human activity being responsible for warming, it appears that humanity is off that hook.

Gareth Phillips
September 30, 2019 11:57 pm

There is a lot of weird people out there who anoint the people they support with religious status. I suppose the idea is that if you oppose them, you must be opposing Gods will. Here’s another one.

http://churchandstate.org.uk/2019/01/evangelicals-god-sent-trump-to-be-king/

Keith
October 1, 2019 4:30 am

Democratic presidential candidates, along with Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and her horde(a large unorganized group of individuals), want to declare climate change a national emergency should they win the presidential election in 2020. The declaration would give a Democratic president immense power to trample on the rights of ordinary citizens. These include freezing bank accounts, shutting down communications facilities, cell phone service and the internet, and appropriating federal money for other projects. It’s not hard to see how a Democratic president could use any one of these powers to make drastic, inalterable changes. Far-left Democrats are convinced that man-made climate change will end the world within their lifetime. What is more, these same individuals know that the Green New Deal and other progressive bits of legislation won’t make it past the Senate. Sixty Senate votes are needed to advance legislation that requires federal funding and there is no way the Democrats will get sixty seats in the Senate in the foreseeable future. However, a Democrat president could use the declaration of a national emergency to get around Congress. With national emergency powers, the president could simply implement parts or even all of the Green New Deal if desired. Measures in that deal would immediately begin to affect ordinary families and businesses. Insane tax rates on fossil fuels will drive prices up, making it impossible for drivers to commute long distances. The airline industry would be shut down, resulting in the loss of tens of thousands of good jobs. New housing laws would require that millions of homeowners in the United States remodel their houses at their own expense. Unfortunately, the devastation that could be caused by a climate change national emergency is lost on those who are intent on promoting conspiracy theories for political gain. Democratic presidential candidates Sen. Bernie Sanders and Sen. Elizabeth Warren, both of whom are considered to be among the top five candidates, are both in favor of the idea. The mainstream media isn’t telling the American public of the harm that would be done in this scenario. Instead, journalists are making it a point to tell everyone that Democrats need to take drastic action, because Democrats will never get enough votes in the Senate to pass legislation the right way. Outlets are also proclaiming that there is a global push to “address man-made climate change” to make it sound as if the United States is falling behind. The truth is that the U.S. is leading the world in cutting carbon emissions under the Trump Administration. The idea of declaring a national emergency to combat climate change is a terrifying one. As many have already realized, the Green New Deal isn’t just about dealing with severe, inclement weather and natural disasters. It’s a plan to create a socialized nation under the guise of advancing “equality” and “justice”. Even Rep. Ocasio-Cortez’s Chief of Staff admitted as much to journalists just a few days ago. Democratic candidates hope to use the climate change hysteria to enact legislation that could not be enacted any other way. In short, progressives hope that, with national emergency powers, the candidate of their choice could become a dictator.

It seems that most people have forgotten that
1) In the 1970’s the fear was global cooling!
2) Later, the same environmental group in Aspen CO that had been telling us global cooling was the single largest problem facing the planet SWITCHED to telling us that global warming was now top of the list
3) Then it became “human caused” global warming
4) Then global warming morphed into “climate change”
5) but perhaps most importantly, the event which started huge increases in government research grant funding was coal miner strikes in Britain! Mrs. Thatcher was Prime Minister and responded to the coal miners’ threats by funding research “proving” global warming was caused by rising CO2 levels and it became imperative that we move away from coal as an energy source. The governmental funding for global warming research has only grown since then DESPITE scientific evidence that our plant’s temperatures are driven by variations in solar output.

James Kent
Reply to  Keith
October 1, 2019 12:19 pm

Keith is absolutely right. His truncated history at the end of his post, of how the current climate scam got started in the first place, is covered in fine detail in this book ‘Climate Change: Natural or Manmade?’, available on Amazon. It describes in fine detail how it all began, way back in the early years of the twentieth century and how it ultimately became “weaponized”, ie; politicized by Margaret Thatcher. Yet so many personalities and events contributed to the idea of a runaway greenhouse effect, trumpeted largely by Carl Sagan in the 1960s and 1970s, that helped reinforce the idea in the minds of politicians, and scientists on the hunt for the latest scientific fad. It is far and away the biggest pseudo-scientific political scam in history. And now that the far left have their grubby little paws all over the fakestream media and the fakestream education system, especially the universities, things will get a lot worse before they get any better.

Ing-Marie Koppel
October 1, 2019 4:49 am

Whole thing is ridiculous. It was a small tweet from a small church in Malmö. Has nothing to do with the Swedish Church as a whole, nothing decided by the politicians that govern the Church. The tweet was probably meant as a joke. Though I cannot say for sure, if the anonymous tweeter didn’t mean it seriously to some extent. In any case the tweet was improper. If humans name successors to Christ, then we would soon have a plethora of people expected to replace Him, who cannot be replaced.

Ing-Marie Koppel
October 1, 2019 5:25 am

It is called Lutheran. But in fact it isn’t anymore. Luther would have turned in his grave. Now it is a church governed by the social democrats. The politicians tell the church what to do and what to believe and what they mustn’t do and believe. It’s a joke. They separated the church from the state some years ago but it didn’t mean Nothing, the politicians continues to decide.

Ing-Marie Koppel
October 1, 2019 5:27 am

Die Welt says archbishop of Berlin compares Greta’s demonstrations to when Jesus went into Jerusalem on Palm Sunday. https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article191860105/Berliner-Bischof-Mich-erinnern-die-Freitagsdemos-an-die-biblische-Szene-vom-Einzug-Jesu.html

He should know better.

Tom Gelsthorpe
October 1, 2019 6:39 am

Pundits in several publications, including my local newspaper, have declared that Greta Thunberg is “Joan of Arc.” Now a church in Sweden declares that she’s the Second Coming. This is too heavy an assignment for a neurotic teenager.

Another Pied Piper is more like it. That’s not a good place to be, either.

What’s going to happen to Greta when she has second thoughts, gets her driver’s license, drives a convertible on a country road with the wind in her hair, and decides internal combustion engines aren’t so bad after all? Will she be exiled for apostasy? Crucified?

Trygve Eklund
October 1, 2019 7:34 am

Just to calm down a bit: This message was not authored by “The Church of Sweden”, but by one “church” (= congregation). Bad enough, but not that bad.

Craig Lake
October 1, 2019 8:25 am

This changes things, I had been thinking she was the successor to the Lollipop Guild.

ResourceGuy
October 1, 2019 1:48 pm

The Pope is watching all of this from his special pedestal with special access.

James Kent
Reply to  ResourceGuy
October 1, 2019 2:46 pm

And safely from inside the Vatican wall.

willaim
October 2, 2019 1:20 pm

(1) “Taking the NAME of the Lord in VANITY”
(2) Actress https://dcdirtylaundry.com/boom-greta-thunberg-exposed-as-an-actress/
BOOM! Greta Thunberg EXPOSED as an ACTRESS
(3)Enough with pointless “protests & demonstrations” , here are actual steps the Youth can take right now to meaningfully fight Global Warming. Time for the pompous little know-it-alls to get some skin-in-the-game.
FIRST: You do not “walk out” of school…. you demonstrate on SATURDAY … walking out of school is wasting the energy that was used to heat/coolthe schoolbuilding. Also you better get every scrap of education to compete with the Chinese & Indians who are going to eat-your-lunch. The “teachers” love getting a PAID day off from your narcistic little pusses.
THEN: Start with the schools:
Either Home School everyone….. imagine the carbon savings if everyone studied at home ………. or:
(1) Drop school room temperatures down to 65 during the winter. yank ALL air conditioners. Recycle the materials
(2) WALK or bicycle to school. No more buses or rides.
(3) No more school trips or events involving travel other than walking or bikes.
(4) No more HOT lunches. ALL food provided MUST be eaten.
(5) No more energy wasting swimming pools, showers, amenities.
(6) Simple utilitarian school uniforms. No more resource wasting “fashions”.
(7) All schools downsized, larger class sizes, smaller classrooms(easier to heat)
(8) NO “teacher”s to reduce carbon footprint. All lectures will be streamed over the interweb, Why keep reinventing the wheel when the subject matter can be covered expertly by ONE central lecturer, questions answered online. tests online,
(9) Wandering room monitors suplemented with cameras replace teachers.
(10) Year round school to speed education. We are not agrarian, kids don’t help in the fields today. Why have unused structures 3 months each year.
(11) You cant have an individual internet it takes up too much carbon to produce the billions of devices needed to use the web and to infrastructure the web.
(12) Schoolbooks will be treated carefully and reused. 2+2 has equaled 4 for thousands of years and basic truths do not have to be rewritten so some corporation can make big bucks ……….. while chopping down trees.
(13) Quit polluting the water with purple hair dye.
(14) No more plastic/costume jewelry & doo-dads that go into a landfill in a month.
(15) No more pathetic “LOOK AT ME” paper protest posters that destroy whole forests so they can get “seen”. Mountains/Trees of placards going straight to the landfill after the clown show of “virtue”
(16) Switch off all those TVs at home Switch off all those computers and i-pads and read a book
(17) Make a sandwich, or eat a salad, rather than buying high-fat fast food and becoming a total lard-ass
But none of this will happen, because you sweet young school-indoctrinated GWAs are selfish, overly opinionated, poorly educated, virtue-signaling little t*rds, who crave a feeling to have a noble cause while they indulge themselves in luxury and unprecedented quality of life. Wake up, Grow up and Shut up until you understand the facts before protesting.