Guest essay by Eric Worrall
h/t Dr. Willie Soon; Ex NASA GISS Director James Hansen, who kicked off the global warming scare with testimony before Congress in 1988, has attacked Democrat Presidential Wannabe Bernie Sanders for promoting a climate policy which will kill people.
Top Climate Scientist to Bernie: You’re Killing People in India
At Thursday night’s MSNBC climate forum, Sanders will lead the way in denouncing nuclear power. But the man who put the issue on the map thinks that’s irresponsible.
Eleanor CliftUpdated 09.20.19 5:00AM ET /
Published 09.19.19 4:50AM ET…
“It’s time for Bernie Sanders to retire,” Hansen responded in an email. “He truly doesn’t get it. India and China have no prayer of phasing out coal without the help of nuclear power. We burned much of their share of the global carbon budget, and yet we refused to help them with modern nuclear power. Thousands of people PER DAY are dying in India from the pollution…. Not only is he killing people in India, he is screwing my grandchildren,” Hansen wrote.
Josh Orton, from the Sanders campaign, responded: “While Bernie’s plan would not renew licenses for existing nuclear plants in the U.S., it’s crucial to note that the plan doesn’t shut down domestic nuclear immediately, nor does it regulate or prohibit nuclear power abroad. In the United States, we know from scientists and other experts that fuels like nuclear are not only unnecessary for the U.S. to achieve our own climate goals, but carry significant waste problems and scale issues.”
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Read more: https://www.thedailybeast.com/top-climate-scientist-to-bernie-sanders-youre-killing-people-in-india
In a previous decade an attack from a leading climate scientist might have had a significant impact on Bernie’s shot at the Democrat Presidential nomination.
But times have changed. In my opinion it is a long time since the likes of Bernie Sanders and his followers paid serious attention to what scientists have to say.
For example, consider Bernie’s support for the Green New Deal. One of the architects of AOC’s Green New Deal recently admitted that the GND is not based on climate science and was never originally about climate change, the climate tie in was added later.
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“Thousands of people PER DAY are dying in India from the pollution”
Paul Ehrlich would be very happy.
Oh.
France, yellow vest fricking fracking thing, technically, due to energy problem.
Problem, ~70% nuclear.
No amount of taxation can pay for the required upgrade of such an energy production scheme… impossible financially.
The ideal solution;
an upgrade including a significant reduction to less than actual, something around 50% dependency in nuclear, or even less if possible.
But;
Too hard and still too expensive, even under such consideration, because these guys in charge have being passing the buck for far too long now, in hope of some “miracle” coming their way, or simply because of this happening to be, was deemed a problem for others coming after them to solve.
Nuclear has its limitation… too expensive to rely at it in the consideration of more than affordable penetration in the production amount.
Just for the sake of a saying;
Should consider thanking the Chernobyl, as otherwise we be facing now the Nuclear Energy
self destructive economical black hole instead of the solar and wind power one.
Do not be surprised to find out that when the green blob decides to abandon the renewable energy, it will feverishly reconsider and go full hands on supporting Nuclear…
as these guys love to suck on any huge financial wastage schemes…
as that is what they are experts at… and that is what they “fish” for,
live and work for, seven eleven.
Just offer a finger to them at such as, and they will take the hand and the entire “kingdom”, again.
Any way, just saying, hopefully not upsetting any one there.
cheers
Why should we be upset here that you don’t understand that much was learned from the human error causing Chernobyl, Fukushima and other incidents in our past. I think the development of human flight cost more lives than learning from nuclear mistakes so far… Care to show statistics otherwise?
Pop Piasa
September 23, 2019 at 1:40 pm
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Thanks for the reply Pop.
First, the point in my comment that you refer to, was a point made in the line of
the: ” Just for the sake of a saying”, meaning simply a thought put forward as just an expression to share.
Second, it does not necessarily have to be accepted or considered as valid,
but at the least to be understood.
So, if you allow me to explain it in consideration of your own reply to me.
No amount of human life cost from human flights, had ever the “luxury” of
effecting the outcome of the decision from the “rulers” of Europe (and others also) when it came to how to keep investing and spending (or actually wasting) taxpayers money in the consideration of the energy choice:
Nuclear V Wind and Solar…. allegedly
Chernobyl, had that “luxury”, allegedly.
Too concerning. When and where the proposition of Wind and Solar scheme far much safer than the continuation of ever keep growing the Nuclear scheme.
Quite a non necessary risk to take… when in the same time quite the same large leverage on the public purse with quite a lot more tempting perks there to exploit….
again allegedly.
Pop, again, all my reply to you, is in the line of:
just for the sake of saying. 🙂
Thank you for your consideration, appreciated.
cheers
Bernie needs to go hang out on his Russian estate and apply for citizenship so he can get Putin’s free health care.
Climate derangement leaders is more like it.
Didn’t Stalin and Trotsky fall out with each other?
Rob says: “Rookie, CO₂ is not plant food. ”
Mnnn…that’s some mighty fine BS, worthy, even, of Algore, the Clown Prince of BS!
It’s not you under-educated cretin
Rob gets so upset when people don’t worship the way he tells us to.
Oh, stop pretending to be better educated. Up-thread at 4:15 pm you said “Us humans will find solutions …” which tells me you haven’t even learned your pronouns yet; you can’t differentiate between subjective and objective pronouns. Get thee back to school.
And in another thread, Richard Courtney had set out a perfectly logical comment. In doing so, he found it necessary to repeat a couple of phrases for the sake of clarity. Having no counter to his clarity of logic, you chose to criticize that excess as pleonasm, assuming nobody here would discern what you were blathering about.
It is you who are the cretin.
Need tissue …?
Enough BS to be as useful as CO2 is for Plant Food
Repeating a lie won’t make it true. It does, however, confirm that you have little science acumen.
What strange things to say. Millions dies from many causes. He doesn’t mention the millions being pulled, literally, out of poverty because of fossil fuels.
I’m wondering if the moderators hired Rob because things were getting too slow around here.
Surely nobody could be that clueless for free.
It’s remarkable how many rely on Google for their source of sience.
So when James Hansen carried out that Fiddle with heating up the room for
his big climate thing, he was actually just working towards the USA going
Nuclear ?
Funny I do not recall that message at the time. So now he is worried that old
Bernie is going to cause the whole climate thing to collapse.
Why didn’t the members of the original meeting say “”Gee the room is hot
will someone turn on the air conditioner ?
MJE VK5ELL
@CO2 is not plant food:
Increase in forest water-use efficiency as atmospheric carbon dioxide concentrations rise:
https://www.nature.com/articles/nature12291
Deserts ‘greening’ from rising CO2:
https://www.csiro.au/en/News/News-releases/2013/Deserts-greening-from-rising-CO2
Increased tree densities in South African savannas: >50 years of data suggests CO2 as a driver:
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1365-2486.2011.02561.x
Atmospheric CO2 forces abrupt vegetation shifts locally, but not globally:
https://www.nature.com/articles/nature11238