Now They’re coming after the Roast Beef of Old England

By Christopher Monckton of Brenchley

At Harvard, there was once a University. Now that once noble campus has become a luxury asylum for the terminally feeble-minded. Walter Willett, one of the inmates (in his sadly incurable delusion he calls himself “Professor of Nutrition”), has gibbered to a well-meaning visitor from Business Insider that “eating a diet that’s especially high in red meat will be undermining the sustainability of the climate.”

Farewell, then, to the Roast Beef of Old England. So keen are we in the Old Country on our Sunday roast (cooked rare and sliced thickish) that the French call us les rosbifs. But the “Professor” (for we must humor him by letting him think he is qualified to talk about nutrition) wants to put a stop to all that.

As strikingly ignorant of all but the IPCC Party Line as others in that hopeless hospice for hapless halfwits, he overlooks the fact that the great plains of what is now the United States of America were once teeming with millions upon millions of eructating, halating ruminants. Notwithstanding agriculture, there are far fewer ruminants now than there were then.

The “Professor” drools on: “It’s bad for the person eating it, but also really bad for our children and our grandchildren, so that’s something I think we should totally, strongly advise against. It’s — in fact — irresponsible.”


It may be that the “Professor” – look how fetchingly he adjusts his tinfoil hat to a rakish angle – does not accept the theory of evolution. If, however, that theory is correct, the Earth is somewhat older than the 6000 years derived by the amiably barmy Bishop Ussher counting the generations since Abraham.

Agriculture as we now understand it only became widespread in the past 10,000 years. Before that, for perhaps two million years, our hunter-gatherer ancestors ate meat and fish and not a lot else – perhaps a little fruit and a few nuts now and then, but only in season.

If eating all that saturated fat was bad for them, how on Earth were they fertile enough to breed generation after generation across the rolling millennia, leading eventually to us?

Let me give the “Professor” a brief lecture in nutrition, about which he plainly knows little. The energy in our food comes entirely from three macronutrients: fats, proteins, and carbohydrates.

There is about 15-25% protein in just about everything we eat. So the question simplifies to this: what balance should we strike between fats, which come chiefly from meat and dairy products, and carbohydrates, which are bread, pasta, rice, potatoes, grains, seeds and sugars?

To answer that question, a short and painful history lesson will perhaps be helpful.

In the early 1950s Ancel Keys, a pop physiologist, announced that he had conducted a “five-country study” (later a “seven-country study”) which, he asserted, showed a link between the saturated fat from meat-eating and cardiovascular disease.

In fact it was a 22-country study, from which Keys had excluded 15 countries that did not show the result he wanted. Worse, he had failed to exclude an important confounder: namely, the latitude. The higher the latitude, the greater the prevalence of cardiovascular disease, chiefly due to Vitamin D deficiency caused by too little sunshine on the skin.

However, Keys went on to feature on the front cover of Time magazine, and he attracted an enormous grant to test his tinfoil theory on patients in six mental institutions and an old people’s home in Minnesota.

Ethically, the study was questionable: once the patients had consented, they were told what they could and could not eat, and were closely supervised to make sure they complied. They were divided into two cohorts: one on a high-fat, low-carbohydrate diet and one on a low-fat, high-carbohydrate diet.

The results were decisive: there was no additional incidence of cardiovascular disease among those on the high-fat diet. Keys arranged for publication to be deferred for more than a decade.

In 1977 the “Democrats” decided to issue guidelines to the people on what they should and should not eat. The National Institutes of Health invited nutritional stakeholders to a closed-doors meeting that lasted two days. Those present were told they would not be allowed to leave the room until they had put their signatures to a pre-drafted “consensus statement” recommending a carbohydrate-rich diet. One by one, they all caved in and signed it.

Now, where have we heard that word “consensus” before?

Only after the guidelines had been safely published did the Minnesota study come to light. But by then, of course, it was too late.

At that time, metabolic syndrome, obesity, diabetes and its numerous complications, dementia and Alzheimer’s Disease were all rare. Less than 2% of the population were diabetic.

However, within two years of the promulgation of the guidelines at the instigation of a Senate Committee under George McGovern, the incidence of all these diseases began to rise. Now, as a direct result of those genocidal guidelines, two health dollars in three in the United States are squandered on diabetes and its dreadful sequelae.

Nor can it be said that the greater incidence and prevalence of diabetes is chiefly attributable to failure on the people’s part to adhere to the guidelines. To a significant extent, the guidelines are being followed, and it is becoming daily clearer that it is the recommendation that carbohydrates should be the staple in our diet that is causing the diabetes crisis.

By 1984 – an appropriate year – the crazed, tinfoil-hat-sporting nutrition brigade were railing against cholesterol, which made it on to the front cover of Time.


In 1994, the British Government of John Major (who had the reverse Midas touch) decided to copy the U.S. dietary guidelines. At that time, diabetes and obesity in Britain were rare. Within two years of the introduction of the guidelines, just as in the U.S.A., the evidence of compliance with the guidelines began to mount, as did the incidence of diabetes and related diseases.

Now, some 10% of the National Health Service budget is squandered on diabetes and its complications and the prognosis is no less dreadful than in the U.S.A.

Though nutrition “science” is as dominated by hard-Left extremists as climate “science”, courageous skeptics have begun to come forward. In Australia, a doctor who had recommended to diabetic patients that they should cut down on the carbohydrates and increase the fats was subjected to a two-year disciplinary process by the medical authorities, at the end of which they were compelled to admit defeat because he was curing his patients.

In Sweden, the medical authorities waged a similar campaign against a doctor for the crime of curing her patients of diabetes by telling them to eat fewer carbohydrates and more meat. She stood bravely firm and the authorities were compelled not only to issue a complete and abject apology but also to change the Swedish dietary guidelines.

Within two years, consumption of butter, which had been falling for two decades in accordance with the guidelines against saturated fats, had recovered to pre-guidelines levels, and the incidence of new diabetes cases began to fall.

Today, hardly a month goes by without a new double-blind trial, epidemiological study or meta-analysis in the medico-scientific journals demonstrating beyond doubt that diabetes and a range of other diseases are directly and principally attributable to the misguided guidelines recommending that carbohydrates should be the staple diet.

How do I know all this? Because 18 months ago I went to St Bartholomew’s Hospital in London to be told by a solemn-faced endocrinologist that I had diabetes. I had already suspected that, because I had noticed the distinctive odor sanctitatis on my skin. I had done some reading on it. So I told the specialist that I’d deal with it.

He said: “You are not taking me seriously. You must realize that you have full-blown diabetes. This is a serious condition. You will have to be medicated.”

I refused all medication. By then I had read enough to know that it was the government guidelines that had given me diabetes and that ignoring them would cure it.

Sure enough, after six months I went back to the endocrinologist, who looked at the test results and said that, though I was pre-diabetic, he would no longer diagnose diabetes.

Earlier this year, I went back again, this time at the hospital’s request, to undergo a day of tests not so much for my benefit as for theirs. The test showed that I was no longer even pre-diabetic. My blood sugar was normal. My blood pressure was that of an 18-year-old.

They were amazed that I had eradicated all symptoms of what they had until then imagined was an incurable, chronic, progressive and eventually fatal disease by nothing more complicated than cutting out carbohydrates almost completely, and eating rump steak three times a week, as well as lashings of bacon, full-fat cheese and heavy cream.

Oh, and fat doesn’t make you fat. I’ve lost 45 pounds – and I haven’t even dieted. Not a single calorie have I counted.

So when some pointy-head in a tinfoil hat from the Harvard Asylum for the Criminally Socialist says we should not eat meat, I beg to differ. However well-meaning the “Professor” is, and however naively perfervid is his belief in the New Religion of global warming, the advice to replace fats with carbohydrates is killing millions worldwide every year. Yet again, “settled science” – Socialist science – is wrong, and yet again genocidally so.

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August 23, 2019 10:22 pm

The Deep State is intent of reducing the population by about 5 billion, so this is just one of the many programs it has invented to that end.

Reply to  Karabar
August 23, 2019 11:11 pm

War on coal is so 2000s.

War on farming is 2020s.

These despots hate anyone who does an honest day’s work. Look out, your livelihood may be next.

Reply to  Karabar
August 24, 2019 12:30 am

I was going to suggest that the recommendations were “genocidally incorrect” on purpose, but you beat me to it.

ferd berple
Reply to  Karabar
August 24, 2019 10:46 am

Google: “letter on copulence, banting, 1863.

Well worth the read.

Reply to  ferd berple
August 24, 2019 10:49 am

Stop recommending Google as a search engine :-))

Reply to  JEHILL
August 24, 2019 1:37 pm

The other day, I searched for the umerced LeRoy Westerling controversy. The result was an unexpected fan page collection with no information on the controversy he’s caused by importing the desmog blacklist into Nature Comm. I was prompted to give feedback to Google about how political the results were.

Now, what hsppened stroke me by surprise. Instead of simply dropping my feedback into /dev/null, the form told me giving feedback failed.

I could only say in very general terms the results were bad. If I explained what and why they were bad – they were politically very convenient – Google refused to listen, probably by detecting keywords in my comment. Not swear words, but documentation on how Westerling had caused a controversy by libelling some named scientists.

I have been 100% sure Google has been badly politicized during the last five years, but after these results and the open refusal to hear me scream (politely), I’m actually scared of them. I’m using their OS, I’m using their email, I’m watching their TV, and they openly hate what they think I represent. They don’t think we are worth our oxygen, and that kind of thinking is the thinking from which grows both terrorism and totalitarianism. They already propose we should get rid of democracy, which freezes my spine.

We really really need Google to go through an antitrust breakup. Now.

Reply to  Hugs
August 24, 2019 10:18 pm

So why do you use their ( hijacked open source ) OS and their friggin email which not only surveils all you do but imposes the same thing on all those unfortunate enough to have to communicate with you.

You are like a smoker complaining about tobacco companies giving you cancer , while polluting the air of those around you.

Reply to  JEHILL
August 24, 2019 3:27 pm

Dump Google… Use ‘DuckDuck Go’
No bias, No tracking.

Crispin in Waterloo
Reply to  saveenergy
August 24, 2019 8:12 pm

It uses Google.

Reply to  Crispin in Waterloo
August 24, 2019 8:34 pm

Crispin you obviously didn’t read that article properly as Duckduckgo does not use Google but it is the websites that use Google tracker and Duckduckgo stops it.

Reply to  saveenergy
August 24, 2019 10:36 pm

Mike, you obviously did not read it either.

“DuckDuckGo apps block Google’s hidden trackers.”

So it if does not use Google it would not need to “block” Googles hidden trackers. It just allows you to use Google indirectly, which gives you a better level of privacy …. until DuckDuck decide to change policy and sell all the info they have been accumulating by their “free” service.

Reply to  Greg
August 24, 2019 11:03 pm

Greg you are wrong. Google Tracker is a website thing so what Duckduckgo do is block those trackers so it has nothing to do with Duckduckgo using Google.

Geo Rubik
Reply to  JEHILL
August 24, 2019 10:36 pm

Duckduckgo is the way to go. I saw Weird Al in July in his home town of Milwaukee. What a wonderful show. Non political. High energy, he’s 61 and doing high leg kicks. Go see him if you want to have a good time. No other satirist has been around for 40+ years and still popular.

Reply to  JEHILL
August 25, 2019 3:44 am

The biggest threat to our health from food comes from the low dosage anti-biotics being fed to animals which create an ideal environment to evolve anti-biotic immune bacteria (forget human anti-biotics they’re not the main problem). That and the way food is processed so that one diseased animal spreads the disease to thousands of others, means that we are all very likely to at some time ingest anti-biotic immune bacteria as well as to come into contact with gut-destroying bacteria. As a result, by the time we’re 60 most of us have at least some gut that is no longer functioning properly.

The next big problem for obesity is the animals that are stuffed full of growth promoters. Factory farmed Chicken is probably the biggest culprit (you don’t grow a chick to be edible within days without growth promoters) – it is cheap because they use growth promoters …. and if you eat food stuffed full of growth promoters … then you WILL PUT ON WEIGHT.

If you then add to that mono-saccharides (glucose fructose aka corn syrup) which have recently been added to all kinds of foods to make them sweeter and which are like diabetes bombs, and the historic move from slowly digested fats and natural plant carbohydrates to very quickly digested processed flour, then the increase in dietary problems and particularly diabetes is a no-brainer.

In my view, given the epidemic of diabetes & other issues, EVERYONE should be cutting back on/eliminating:

1. Any food that has been given low-dosage anti-biotics (which is hard to do – but food from the UK is far better than anything from abroad)
2. Any food stuffed full of growth promoters (which is increasingly difficult as any cheap meat means factory farmed which means growth promoters)
3. ELIMINATE glucose fructose or “corn syrup” … in terms of diabetes you may as well just inject heroine … because they are that addictive.
4. Reduce the amount of “white” or “processed” starch (flour, pasta, bread,potatos)
5. Eat FAR FAR more vegetables (literally we’ve now having 3+ veges at most meals and sometimes far more (as veges are mixed in as well) …
6. Replace starch with meat, fat

And just to be honest … yesterday I had fish and chips (although only half the chips) … but was the first time in several years I’d eaten so many carbs.

Reply to  Mike Haseler (Scottish Sceptic)
August 25, 2019 7:23 am

98% of it is to just get ALL processed grains,sugars, and other starches out of your diet. Vegetables are nothing but a filler-and-extender indigestible substitute for all that SAD-CRAP. (Standard American Diet, Carbohydrates Refined and Processed). If you eat mostly fatty meat, eggs, cheese and fish, you’ll have no hunger and no need or desire for the vegetables, which have all the nutritional value of wood pellets anyway. And you only need to eat once or twice a day!
Can’t even TELL you how much time THAT frees up, and ZERO food waste.

Joe Veragio
Reply to  JEHILL
August 26, 2019 3:42 pm

You can google with any search engine just like you can hoover with a Dyson (:-))

Reply to  ferd berple
August 24, 2019 9:45 pm

Fred ..
Should be corpulence .. but it got me there.
(Copulence is probably is different issue!)

Mike Ellwood
Reply to  ferd berple
August 27, 2019 6:40 am

“Corpulence”, but yes.

Also “The Diet Delusion” by Gary Taubes, published as “Good Calories, Bad Calories” in the USA.

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  Karabar
August 24, 2019 10:58 am

Many of the Left’s Green genocidal warriors have claimed with Malthusian glee that 800-900 million is Earth’s “carrying capacity.” So a ~90% reduction. They of course always see themselves and their children in the “lucky” top 0.1% of that 10%.

Reply to  Karabar
August 25, 2019 7:19 am

Agenda 30 wants us weak-minded, pharma-dependent, fat, sick and infertile. Problem is, cat’s out of the bag now and many thanks to Lord Monckton for this tour-de-force summary of the facts!

I’m full carnivore now and have also lost 40 lbs. and a painful hip I thought would need surgical replacement. These moonbats come for my bacon and beef, they’re gonna get one helluva fight!

August 23, 2019 10:22 pm

I love your play with words. You and Mark Styne could have a fun filled interview.

Tom Halla
Reply to  mikebartnz
August 24, 2019 6:19 am


John Francis
Reply to  Tom Halla
August 25, 2019 11:11 am

Steyn. The best writer in his field.

Reply to  John Francis
August 25, 2019 4:15 pm

I love that. The corrector getting corrected. 😁

Scott Manhart
August 23, 2019 10:30 pm

Congratulations on the return to health. John Ioannidis MD of Stanford has been on this issue for several years. His conclusion is that there have been no diet research that has been worth a damn in the 50 years. Wm Ossler, MD figured this out areas ago. He reccognized diabetes to be a state of carbohydrate toxicity. His solution was take carbohydrates out of the diet. His patients did amazingly well, particularly in light of the fact that they did not have the option of medications to begin with.

Reply to  Scott Manhart
August 24, 2019 4:54 am

yup like the Glycemic index created in Aus
very little proof or worth but its the medicos fave book to tell diabetics about
I eat full fat everything and now have my butcher teained to leave ALL the fat on the meat I buy, or throw some trims in if the staff trimmed it down;-)
real food as little processed as possible and some excercize sorts most pre and eatly diabetics out.

and the statins/cholesterol scam is another to ignore
6.7 and my cardio guy says its just fine
meanwhile my gp wants it at under 4 or lower
damn fool doesnt get my business anymore.

Reply to  ozspeaksup
August 25, 2019 7:25 am

There is no. such. thing. as an “essential” carbohydrate. This is really all you need to know.

Krudd Gillard of the Commondebt of Australia
August 23, 2019 10:32 pm

Great article, great read – thanks Christopher.

I am just waiting on the Chicken Little’s push to ban Handel, Bach and Vivaldi. They just haven’t got around to it yet. But I’m sure they did in the Soviet Union.

Reply to  Krudd Gillard of the Commondebt of Australia
August 24, 2019 10:19 am

Lenin on Beethoven:

“But I can’t listen to music very often, it affects my nerves. I want to say sweet, silly things, and pat the little heads of people who, living in a filthy hell, can create such beauty. These days, one can’t pat anyone on the head nowadays, they might bite your hand off. Hence, you have to beat people’s little heads, beat mercilessly, although ideally we are against doing any violence to people.”

Of course they’ll ban uplifting music once they have power. Listening to it threatens to make NPCs human.

oebele bruinsma
August 23, 2019 10:35 pm

Brilliant, Thanks
I had a similar experience..

August 23, 2019 10:38 pm

Lord Monckton
I think that the comparison with the pseudoscience of climate change and diabetes is great but, a question, what was your low-carbohydrate diet?

August 23, 2019 10:46 pm

Read the “Lore of Nutrition” by Professor Tim Noakes MD of South Africa who has a similar tale to tell on reversing his diabetes. He revealed the findings of his intense research into high fat, low carbohydrate diets to the South African public in 2012. His publisher writes: “The backlash from his colleagues in the medical establishment was as swift as it was brutal and culminated in a misconduct inquiry launched by the Health Professions Council of South Africa. The subsequent hearing lasted well over a year but Noakes truimphed, being found not guilty of unprofessional conduct in April 2017.”

Janet Smith
August 23, 2019 10:49 pm

Read the “Lore of Nutrition” by Professor Tim Noakes MD of South Africa who has a similar tale to tell on reversing his diabetes. He revealed the findings of his intense research into high fat, low carbohydrate diets to the South African public in 2012. His publisher writes: “The backlash from his colleagues in the medical establishment was as swift as it was brutal and culminated in a misconduct inquiry launched by the Health Professions Council of South Africa. The subsequent hearing lasted well over a year but Noakes truimphed, being found not guilty of unprofessional conduct in April 2017.”

Steve O
Reply to  Janet Smith
August 24, 2019 7:20 am

A British professor of nutrition named John Yudkin wrote a book in 1972 called “Pure, White, and Deadly” that correctly blamed sugar for dietary problems, when others blamed dietary fat.

He was destroyed professionally. The fact is, leading scientists rely on their theories continuing to prevail in order to maintain their stature and they will stand in the way of progress.

August 23, 2019 10:51 pm

No government bureaucrat, or faux eco-scold will EVER deny my family our annual Christmas dinner of a 5-bone prime rib and Yorkshire pudding “cupcakes” baked in the prime rib fat drippings. Along with salad and vegetable sides. Big, thick, meaty slabs of fully saturated beef fat. My total cholesterol runs about 190, with congenitally excellent HDL numbers. My genes are predisposed to a nice meaty diet. Now bugger-off you ‘mental’ vegans! Your brain cells could use some dietary fat to improve function

Alan the Brit
Reply to  Kenji
August 23, 2019 11:55 pm

Can I come for Christmas lunch, please?

Reply to  Alan the Brit
August 24, 2019 11:27 am

Would love to have you over

August 23, 2019 10:53 pm

Great post Christopher,
We have a diabetes epidemic in New Zealand and unfortunately our Maori and Pacific Island citizens are affected much more than those of us that are of European decent .
In some small coastal villages the incidence is very high and and they have “clubs” run by local doctors to help the people.
Much to my wife’s despair I eat plenty of meat ,cheese,and ice cream and always have .
I have been telling her that fat is good for health and I have known for among time that these studies were faulty.

August 23, 2019 10:59 pm

I was diagnosed pre-diabetic last year, and finally as a Type 2 diabetic earlier this year. I have cut out a lot of calories like milk, cheese and fruit juice and implemented better complex carbs like brown rice, pasta etc, but even with a better diet still can’t lose any weight, even at 1500 calories a day. As I understand it, overweight is the main problem with Type 2 DB and I am 123 Kg, but most of that weight is excess belly fat. I don’t even look fat at 6′ 1″, except for a big paunch.

I supposedly eat the right amount of meat, since they say too much is unhealthy for things like cancer. I am aware of the Atkins Diet with a heavier meat diet and am considering that, but my Dr. would probably not approve of that either. Of course the kicker is I should be getting a lot more exercise now that I am semi retired, but getting older with serious heart disease and mechanical injuries to back and hip from a head on car crash make getting that exercise difficult. I suspect this is a problem many of us have here who are now going on their mid 60’s, in one form or another. Just getting old is bad enough…

One of the things I have been reading about is how a lot of excess salt has killed our gut bacteria, and somehow all our calories we do eat get processed to max, and stick like glue on a XR protester to pavement. I have friends and extended family who eat more than me, but they are thin as a rail. My parents didn’t have this problem when they were alive and neither do my older siblings have this problem, albeit they all get moderately more exercise than me. It just doesn’t make sense.

I am wondering about the salt perspective and gut bacteria, and whether this isn’t part of the Type 2 DB problem. I know I ate too much salt and processed foods for a long time. Apparently a fecal transplant from an immediate family member in the intestines can restore gut bacteria, but I don’t know if this is the cause of my weight problem and if it would do any good. And good medical help is about as hit and miss in getting a proper diagnosis about climate change, even though I have a very good Dr. overall, although busy just keeping us all alive and it is my responsibility to lose weight, of course. Look forward to reading the comments on this interesting post.

Leo Smith
Reply to  Earthling2
August 23, 2019 11:56 pm

I would say that just about everything you have heard is in fact wrong.

You need to cut out all carbohydrates as far as is possible (its not completely possible – even a stem of broccoli has SOME)

So that’s all grains, all root veg, all sweet tropical fruit…Or at least cut them down to < 100g preferably <50g a day. And sugar, Cut that out

eat as much salt as you like and drink at least 2 litres of water a day.

Eat as much full fat dairy, meat, animal fat and leafy veg as you like.
Avoid all health foods especially manufactured health foods.
Go as long between meals as you cam

Eating the fats and not the carbs stops you feeling hungry

I haven't been 100% strict with myself, but I am losing weight and waist inches, and the 'sugar fatigue' has gone.

Reply to  Leo Smith
August 24, 2019 1:17 am

Yep. And you can call me Dr.

Reply to  Leo Smith
August 24, 2019 7:51 am

E2, Dr. Phinney and associates started a new company called Virta health that treats T2 diabetes with lo carb diet. Site is worth a visit especially the personal stories of people that have been part of the program. “Lo Carb Down Under” on YouTube has many terrific talks ranging from weight loss, diabetes to treatment of epilepsy that drugs do not control. Ketogenic diet was routine tool to use for epilepsy before modern drug therapy.

Erast Van Doren
Reply to  polski
August 24, 2019 11:16 am

Virta Health is a fraud.

Reply to  Leo Smith
August 25, 2019 4:19 pm

Also, keep in mind that when you go very low with carbs, your kidneys will start flushing all of the sodium out of your system. Instead of eating less salt, you will need to supplement with it, aiming for at least 5 grams per day. There are no credible studies that link high sodium/salt intake to gut biome problems.

Reply to  Dylan
August 25, 2019 4:48 pm

Frankly and honestly and some points to @EVD is why some of the “studies” do show inflammation but in the wild the results are better. It took me a few years to understand this dichotomy. Poorly constructed studies and our physicians have no experience studying or caring for paleolithic humans. Few us eat like them and it cannot be completely replicated.

They don’t take into account all the metabolic changes and have, salt bad dept, saturated fat bad dept facts” to researchers without further thought or imagination. Without the salts bile secretions aren’t able make fatty acids or triglycerides misble with water. Certainly not how a ketogenic diet is implemented in the wild. For starters, I do more Chicken, Turkey, seafood and only red meat one or twice every 14 days. Furthermore, I do grass fed beef where the animal’s fat profile is more natural. Again the studies are not matching reality of it’s true implementation wild.

Reply to  Earthling2
August 24, 2019 2:33 am


See my post re Zoe Harcombe.

In 12 months time you will be a different man. Eat more meat, as much as you want; butter; cheese; eggs etc. but never, ever eat them in what we have been told is a balanced diet (meat and two veg).

Quite simply, if you eat a roast dinner with, say, roast beef, roast potatoes and broccoli, your body will use the carbohydrates in the potato first for instant energy, and store away the protein as fat.

As you might suspect, the greens are inconsequential!

Reply to  HotScot
August 24, 2019 10:24 am

I’ve fallen off the wagon again, but for a while this summer I was replacing carb-heavy snacks with broccoli cooked in butter. Tastes good and is far more healthy than most of the crap on store shelves.

I think I need to make a New Year’s resolution to cut carbs completely.

Mark A Luhman
Reply to  HotScot
August 24, 2019 10:28 am

The body cannot store protein as fat, excess protein is excreted. Only fat and sugars(carbohydrates) can be stored, fat can reside in the blood stream for a long time, sugar cannot it need to be burned in less than two hours or converted into fat. That is why excess carbohydrates are so deadly, eventually you pancreas give out from being over work. That why the idiots that think a high carbohydrate diet was a good idea killed some many people.

Bill McCarter
Reply to  HotScot
August 25, 2019 10:11 am

The biggies in the diet are the carbs that take the secondary route in the liver. Glucose/Dextrose gets converted directly into glycogen and is stored in the liver for quick use in a primary process. It is a very efficient conversion with very few, innocuous by-products. Glucose is not the problem.
Fructose and Ethanol are very similar molecules and the liver processes them in a completely different fashion to glucose. If you ingest a large amount of fructose or a large amount of ethanol, and you take notice, you may find that they have very similar effects on your well being, your emotions and your overall continence.
The by-products that the liver produces from these food chemicals are such things as cholesterol and assorted aldehydes. Definitely not chemicals one wants in the body. Also the main product of this reaction gets directly converted to body fat.
This generally means NO processed foods and if you want something sweet, eat grapes, they are the highest in glucose/fructose ratio.
Not to mention the atrocity of trans-fats…… ugh

Reply to  Earthling2
August 24, 2019 3:17 am

“I should be getting a lot more exercise now that I am semi retired, but getting older with serious heart disease and mechanical injuries to back and hip from a head on car crash make getting that exercise difficult”

Do you have access to a swimming pool? Nothing beats swimming for being easy on the body. If you don’t have access to a pool, but you do have enough indoor space, you can install your own swim-in-place pool (swim against a bungee cord) for not too much money (e.g., iPool).

Reply to  icisil
August 25, 2019 7:32 am

This thing is 100% dietary, which has been proven hundreds of times over. It is physically impossible to exercise away the excess fat stored by high circulating insulin in response to the elevated blood sugar that comes from eating refined carbs. Period. And no one likes to mention that orthopedic surgeons now have a license to print money because of older adults’ exercising to extremes.

If there is glucose in your bloodstream available for energy, you CAN NOT burn any fat. It is biologically impossible until ALL the glucose is burned off, and that’s not possible for anyone but a youthful marathoner. Most people, post-workout, immediately dump down a sweet smoothie or a “sports” drink loaded with HFCS, resulting in MORE fat being stored, not less–which is why exercise also increases your appetite. Not to mention that hard, forced exercise for most beyond youth is very unpleasant for a reason–Nature didn’t design us to do that. We couldn’t run like gazelles, but we had big brains and learned how to snare/stampede/spear them.

One of the BIGGEST benefits of keto/carnivore is you can knock off the obnoxious, time-consuming “workout” thing–and reduce fat while gaining muscle mass to a degree I would have thought impossible!

Paul of Alexandria
Reply to  Earthling2
August 24, 2019 7:48 am

I would like to recommend “Breaking the Vicious Cycle: Intestinal Health Through Diet” by Elaine Gottschall (
She did a large amount of research involving the role of intestinal flora and intestinal disease, including colitis, Chrone’s, and IBS. Some of these are triggered by food sensitivities, especially to gluten, and the balance of the various intestinal bacteria plays a large part. It’s a complex subject. Keeping off of gluten has gotten by Colitis under control.

Reply to  Paul of Alexandria
August 25, 2019 1:35 pm

I’ve become a big believer in intestinal health being a big contributor to overall health. I started taking bacillus coagulans, and so far I like the results (heh, that sounded weird, didn’t it?) Supposedly, it’s very resilient in the GI tract, decreases insulin, improves blood lipid profile, reduces total blood cholesterol, LDL-cholesterol, marginally increases HDL-cholesterol, and is beneficial in diabetes.

John VC
Reply to  Earthling2
August 24, 2019 7:53 am

about 10-12 years ago my “pre” diabetes had become full blown, and I was weighing 130 lbs-very heavy for a guy who’s working weight stayed around 165. (stopping tobacco had a bit to do with the weight gain, I’m sure) Decided to try out the paleo diet–essentially a diet similar to that of our hunter-gatherer ancestors — and that mentioned by Lord Monckton. Within 2 months, I was back down to 175, and have stayed around 180 for the last decade, eating little more than fruit, nuts, seeds, and lots of meat and eggs, both of which I provide for myself on my little ranch. I do have a great affinity for ice cream (Ben&Jerry) and consume several pints per week which is why my weight stays where it is instead of lower, and in the long run will probably be the death of me, but, as they say, what’s life without a bit of pleasure??

Reply to  John VC
August 24, 2019 9:02 am

Typo? “130 lbs-very heavy for a guy who’s working weight stayed around 165”

John VC
Reply to  JCalvertN(UK)
August 24, 2019 10:10 am

Aye–a big typo. 230 was what was intended.

The thing that convinced me to try the paleo (caveman) diet was reading about how the human digestive system evolved over millions of years ( back to our Australopithecus ancestors and beyond) while we added grain only some 10,000 years ago. Haven’t really developed the digestive means to benefit from it yet, evolutionary speaking. Sort of like feeding animals that developed eating grass and other green matter (grazing, browsing) corn rich diets in those massive feedlots. Corn is like candy to goats and cows, and if you ate a 100% candy diet, you’d be sick much of the time also.

Monckton of Brenchley
Reply to  John VC
August 25, 2019 12:07 am

JohnVC should ditch Ben & Jerry’s and make his own ice cream. Recipe follows:

Mash one pear, skin and all. Peel and mash a banana. Mix. Add 4 tablespoons heavy cream. Stir. That’s the base. Now add flavor to taste: e.g., fresh strawberries, raspberries or mango.

Or add 1-2 tablespoon raws, unsweetened, unDutched, unalkalized cocoa powder, which is the most nutritious substance on Earth, bar none.

This mixture takes minutes to make, and it gives 6-8 portions of ice cream. Just put it in used yoghurt pots and into the freezer. Take it out and let it stand for 20 minutes before eating it.

Kevin A
Reply to  Earthling2
August 24, 2019 8:12 am

I was up to a Size 40 pants, Atkin took me to a 34 where I am now at 70 years old. I no longer have to drink that purple crap so the doctor can buy his next MB…

Gary Pearse
Reply to  Earthling2
August 24, 2019 9:08 am

Earthling, I’m now closer to 90 than I am to 70 and I’m healthy and still working as a consultant in mining – touching wood. I do like potatoes and rice with meals but I eat a lot of meat and when we have a roast or steak, I usually get the treat of eating much of my guests crackled fat, chicken skin, etc. I do eat about half of what I used, though.

Reply to  Gary Pearse
August 24, 2019 10:25 am

Sounds like a touching wood diet.

Reply to  Earthling2
August 24, 2019 9:33 am

Do you drink beer or other alcohols? You know what you have to do.

Reply to  Earthling2
August 24, 2019 3:33 pm

Earthling 2 – You may want to look into your Vitamin D status. Vitamin D is not a vitamin, it is a secosteroid hormone that is produced in the skin by sunlight. People in developed nations now travel in cars and mostly work indoors, and are advised by doctors to avoid sun exposure. As a consequence Vitamin D deficiency is now epidemic. If you go to PubMed and search on the terms Vitamin D and insulin, you will find a over 3000 scientific articles, many of which demonstrate an association between Vitamin D deficiency and insulin resistance. Many studies have shown that consumption of carbohydrates, especially refined carbs, leads to insulin resistance, obesity and Type 2 diabetes. I suspect that this effect occurs in people who are Vitamin D deficient. It is interesting that Vitamin D supplementation improves insulin sensitivity. This is a recent study that shows the beneficial effect of Vitamin D over a period of 6 months. The study is much better designed than most, in that the dose is sufficient (5000 IU per day), administered daily, for a period long enough to show the therapeutic effect (6 months).

Effects of 6-month vitamin D supplementation on insulin sensitivity and secretion: a randomized, placebo-controlled trial.

Vitamin D regulates the immune system, and if you search PubMed with the terms Vitamin D and microbiome, you will find a number of studies that show beneficial effects on gut bacteria.

You will also find this recent study interesting:

Daily oral dosing of vitamin D3 using 5000 TO 50,000 international units a day in long-term hospitalized patients: Insights from a seven year experience.

Reply to  Earthling2
August 24, 2019 7:23 pm

Life is hard, then you die. Stop the the whining, hand wringing, and excessive rationalizations.

For brunch (we eat two meals a day), I had two eggs and some cheese in an omelette. And five rashers of bacon. For a snack at 5 PM, a scotch, a scant quarter cup of almonds and three small crackers with cheese. For dinner, two chicken legs and a cup of green beans. That’s a typical day.

What did you eat today?

August 23, 2019 11:00 pm

Excellent article sir. Truly, the lunatics have been running the asylum for many years.

August 23, 2019 11:11 pm

Unfortunately the real angle here looks like a load of eco loon bull excrement being used as a means of raising tax on something. No sleazy government is going to let that opportunity slip by.

Reply to  Pumpsump
August 24, 2019 12:31 am

Al Gore is also a YUGE investor of Beyond Meat. They IPO’ed recently and now we have a war on meat.


Reply to  JEHILL
August 24, 2019 4:59 am

not at all;-)
and those fake meats are highly processed which is what needs be avoided for gut health
and expense!
at 40$au a kilo for whats basically soy meal….
Id rather eat grass fed scotch fillet for less.

Reply to  ozspeaksup
August 24, 2019 10:54 am

“Vegan Beyond Meat burgers are just ultra-processed patties that can be bad for our health”

“A 113-gram Beyond Meat patty has 250 calories, 18 grams of fat, 390 milligrams of sodium and 20 grams of protein. Health Canada says 113 grams of lean ground beef contain 292 calories, 16.5 grams of fat, 105 milligrams of sodium and 33 grams of protein. For comparison, 113 grams of Yves’ Veggie burger (which is typically 75 grams) contains 165 calories, nine grams of fat, 602.4 milligrams of sodium and 18 grams of protein.”

Not surprising, really. The easiest way to make heavily processed plant products palatable is to add plenty of fat and salt. 😉

August 23, 2019 11:48 pm

The dear professor’s demented mindset is clearly a product of not eating enough red meat.

Leo Smith
August 23, 2019 11:48 pm

Thanks Chris.

I am on a similar diet for similar reasons

As the NHS sponsored lecture said ‘there is one food we do not need to eat at all: Carbohydrates”

All that healthy muesli, wholegrain rice. lo fat spreads and popcorn will kill you.

100% fat butter wont.

Shades of Jared Diamond’s ‘Mankinds Greatest Mistake’


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John Dowser
August 24, 2019 12:04 am

On which planet or during which forgotten age are high carb diets like “bread, pasta, rice, potatoes, grains, seeds and sugars” still being advised? Beyond seeds and whole grains, most of the dietary world moved on a long time ago to advising against diets revolving around bread, pasta, rice, potatoes and of course sugar.

The question of replacing meats is a different discussion.

But in any case, despite the rambling, somewhat fact-free article, it’s good to hear diabetics was overcome. As long as not too much has been damaged, especially the insulin production, this is perfectly possible.

Reply to  John Dowser
August 24, 2019 2:23 am


“somewhat fact-free article” huh?—> talk to a physician most of them will tell you to get most of your calories from carbs. Vegetables are not calorie dense. Broccoli 85g serving ~20 calories; just to power your brain with energy but not the proper amount of macro nutrients means you would need to eat 1.7kg. Where’s the additional 1600 calories? 1.7g of leafy green vegetable x 3 more servings? We are not ruminants and there’s a reason evolution gave the 3-4 stomachs.

This is still what the FDA is recommending:

Fruits should be eaten in very low amounts. And only low GI fruits.

Meat can never be replaced with plants for most of the human population. We would never get the correct amount of iron. As the bio-available form of iron in plants is generally no more then 10% regardless how much iron is in the food. Or many of the minerals and metals needed for minimum health. Labeling do not list the bio-available they list the total.

Your body can make glucose from both fat and protein; ever heard of a lipid-protein? Hormones and neurotransmitters. You need absolutely need to zero carbs from intake sources.

Composition of Brain
Whole Brain (%)
Water 77 to 78
Lipids 10 to 12
Protein 8
Carbohydrate 1
Soluble organic substances 2
Inorganic salts 1

clearly from a purely chemical composition analysis of the classification of chemical structures in the brain you need fat, protein and very little carbs for the brain.

And Soy based foods and diet for developing boys is damn near child abuse. This will lead to enormous physical and mental health issues due to the estrogen mimicking compounds. Adult men can tolerate more but should still limit their intake.

You should read up why the Roman Gladiators and their physicians/coaches had them eat a diet of mostly porridge of barley and oats.

some Hippocrates quotes:

[b]”Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food.”[b]

“Walking is man’s best medicine.”

“Wherever the art of medicine is loved, there is also a love of humanity.”

“If we could give every individual the right amount of nourishment and exercise, not too little and not too much, we would have found the safest way to health.”

“There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the latter ignorance.”

Reply to  JEHILL
August 24, 2019 5:10 am

bear in mind some vegies DO have other nutritional uses and go well with meat;-)
Broccoli or other cruciferous veg do provide sulhpurophanes which are disease preventing

a good webpage is
lots of real data links to research and studies you can go and look and decide

for those who might be interested coconut oil and brain health effects on alzheimers patients and kids with autism..mightnt help all but it does help some.

since they introduced “diet everything” people got fatter and sicker.

Paul of Alexandria
Reply to  ozspeaksup
August 24, 2019 7:53 am

Don’t forget the fiber! Rather important for those of us who go to the bathroom!

Erast Van Doren
Reply to  JEHILL
August 24, 2019 11:18 am

Brain does synthesize all it’s cholesterol, because it doesn’t pass the blood-brain barrier.

Joe Veragio
Reply to  Erast Van Doren
August 27, 2019 12:38 am

“Brain does synthesize all it’s cholesterol, because it doesn’t pass the blood-brain barrier.”

From what does it synthesise it?

Erast Van Doren
Reply to  Joe Veragio
August 27, 2019 8:07 am

Cholesterol is synthesized from Acetyl-CoA, which really means from any energy source.

Joe Veragio
Reply to  Erast Van Doren
August 27, 2019 11:42 am

Erast, Thankyou for replying. So the brain just needs glucose does it? It always seemed to help when getting sleepy right enough.
Then all that stuff I’d been reading about Coenzyme Q10 being needed to protect the brain from the cholesterol lowering effect of statins was bunk was it?
(No wonder the Neuro. thought I nuts).

Erast Van Doren
Reply to  Joe Veragio
August 29, 2019 3:10 pm

So the brain just needs glucose does it? It always seemed to help when getting sleepy right enough. Then all that stuff I’d been reading about Coenzyme Q10 being needed to protect the brain from the cholesterol lowering effect of statins was bunk was it?

There are different statins out there – some can pass into the brains, and other can’t (simvastatin, pravastatin are better in that respect). Obviously we don’t want to suppress cholesterol synthesis inside the brain. The ideal stain would the one that acts only inside the liver. Sadly, such level of selectivity is not possible.

Now, about CoQ10 – it was tried in relation to statins, but because of the other statin-induced problem: statins increase diabetes risk by 12%. Why? Because statins block cholesterol synthesis, but the substrate from which cholesterol is synthesized has to go somewhere, and at least a part of it ends as newly synthesized fat. And intracellular fat inhibits insulin signaling pathways, thus causing insulin resistance and then diabetes… CoQ10 is thought to increase mitochondrial function, which is regulated by the same switch as the glucose transporter synthesis, therefore this idea. The results are however inconclusive.

Anyway, even if CoQ10 would help to alleviate some side effects of statins – it would not help with too low level of cholesterol inside the brain. And I don’t think that statins are the best method to lower cholesterol anyway – with very low-fat, low-cholesterol mostly plant-based diet most people can get cholesterol to 50-60mg/dl without drugs. No side effects, and also helps with other problems.

Non-scientific, but most people would be convinced with this rather than with science:

Reply to  John Dowser
August 24, 2019 2:25 am

John Dowser

The question of replacing meats IS the discussion.

The whole point of this article is that our governments and mainstream media are getting their nutritional information wrong, once again, caving into the utterly insane vegans and Al Gore (who looks nothing like a vegan) by telling us all to give up meat.

Meat IS our staple food, as Chris points out. We have been eating it for millions of years, so why, other than for reasons of Al Gores bank account, would they promote yet another meat free diet?

Reply to  John Dowser
August 24, 2019 3:28 am

It happens in pretty much every country. Australia recently published a new version of the dietary guidelines & carbs are pretty much all of the energy content.

Reply to  Hivemind
August 24, 2019 5:11 am

but the 7 eggs a wekk and full fat milk updates were damned music to many ears
for those fools that had followed their prior crap guidelines

August 24, 2019 12:19 am

I have been a keto, paleo eater for a long time. A high meat and fat diet for me is the way to go. Sure my study population is n=1 but I only need to right for me.

I have the skill set and the disposal income to blood test at home and order my own clinical blood test online to confirm or normalize my readings of my home devices. I encourage everyone to do this if they can.

My comments directly on the article:

Going back to our hunter-gatherer days; early hominids/humanoids probably only ate one full calorie meal every other day. We modern human eat entirely too much regardless of the macro-nutrient distribution. I encourage everyone to fast every other day. Or only eat one will meal and never eat past 1600hrs and never more than two meals a day.

Thank you for also mentioning the animals. There already is an enormous amount of environmental damage since the removal of the buffalo from the North American plains. Ranchers still drive cattle through some of that land but it is not enough to keep all of the original habitat and ecosystems as healthy as they used to be. The buffalo/bison is a much larger animal, by several hundred pounds, than most species of bovines. The current USDA count puts that at ~94 million.

And I say this to nearly everyone and have said it here as well, nutritional science is just borked as climate science.

John Q Public
August 24, 2019 12:46 am

Where’s the beef?

August 24, 2019 1:04 am

“If you don’t like the weather in New England now, just wait a few minutes,” said Mark Twain.
Could somebody explain, what is a “sustainability of the climate”?
Is ever-changing a sustained condition?

Reply to  Alexander Feht
August 24, 2019 6:31 pm

“If you don’t like the weather in New England now, just wait a few minutes,”

People say that everywhere. It’s pretty meaningless.

August 24, 2019 1:10 am

Dr Michael Mosley, who developed the 5:2 diet, had a similar pre-diabetic condition and was able to rectify it by similar means to Lord Moncton.
He has developed his ideas in Fast 800 ( ) with reference to wide ranging and serious research work done using blind trials.
He has also produced a number of television programmes on the topic of diet and fasting.
(I have no personal or commercial connection to him, I just find his approach understandable and it works.)

August 24, 2019 1:14 am

”great plains of what is now the United States of America were once teeming with millions upon millions of eructating, halating ruminants. Notwithstanding agriculture, there are far fewer ruminants now than there were then.”

This seems unlikely according to considered studies. Not that it will stop me eating meat of course…..

Reply to  Mike
August 24, 2019 6:11 am

This seems unlikely according to considered studies.

“Considered studies”?
The great herds of bison on the Great Plains was one of the epic stories of the American West.
Estimates ranged from 20 million to 50 million as central estimates, with the lowest likely level generally given as 10 million and high estimates going well above the 50 million figure.
Note also that the American bison is a huge animal, much larger than the cattle we raise today.
These were not just offhand guesses by cowboys or anything of the sort. There were many naturalists and natural scientists going all over the continent recording everything they saw.
For an academic professor back East, the surest way to make a name for yourself was to go out west, make discoveries of the unknown lands, go back East and tell fabulous stories about what you saw and did. So they did in droves. The place names from those days are well known today: Yellowstone, Grand Canyon, Glacier National Park.

Reply to  TonyL
August 24, 2019 3:56 pm

Obviously you are not a cattleman. Bison were/are no larger than our common cattle breeds, in fact somewhat smaller than some.

Wiki on bison: Weights can range from 318 to 1,000 kg (701 to 2,205 lb)[17][18][19] Typical weight ranges in the species were reported as 460 to 988 kg (1,014 to 2,178 lb) in males and 360 to 544 kg (794 to 1,199 lb) in females, the lowest weights probably representing typical weight around the age of sexual maturity at 2 to 3 years of age.[20] Mature bulls tend to be considerably larger than cows. Cow weights have had reported medians of 450 to 495 kg (992 to 1,091 lb), with one small sample averaging 479 kg (1,056 lb), whereas bulls may reportedly weigh a median of 730 kg (1,610 lb) with an average from a small sample of 765 kg (1,687 lb).[21][22][23][24] The heaviest wild bull ever recorded weighed 1,270 kg (2,800 lb)

Wiki on modern cattle: The weight of adult cattle varies, depending on the breed. Smaller kinds, such as Dexter and Jersey adults, range between 272 to 454 kg (600 to 1,000 lb). Large Continental breeds, such as Charolais, Marchigiana, Belgian Blue and Chianina, adults range from 635 to 1,134 kg (1,400 to 2,500 lb). British breeds, such as Hereford, Angus, and Shorthorn, mature between 454 to 907 kg (1,000 to 2,000 lb), occasionally higher, particularly with Angus and Hereford.[41] Bulls are larger than cows of the same breed by up to a few hundred kilograms. Chianina bulls can weigh up to 1,500 kg (3,300 lb); British bulls, such as Angus and Hereford, can weigh as little as 907 kg (2,000 lb) to as much as 1,361 kg (3,000 lb).[citation needed]

The world record for the heaviest bull was 1,740 kg (3,840 lb), a Chianina named Donetto, when he was exhibited at the Arezzo show in 1955.[42] The heaviest steer was eight-year-old ‘Old Ben’, a Shorthorn/Hereford cross weighing in at 2,140 kg (4,720 lb) in 1910.[43]

In the United States, the average weight of beef cattle has steadily increased, especially since the 1970s, requiring the building of new slaughterhouses able to handle larger carcasses. New packing plants in the 1980s stimulated a large increase in cattle weights.[44] Before 1790 beef cattle averaged only 160 kg (350 lb) net; and thereafter weights climbed steadily.[45][46]

Rod Evans
August 24, 2019 1:20 am

Thank you Christopher for another article outlining common sense, and the need to challenge so called experts.
This weekend here in England UK we are being advised to take extra care due to the “heat wave” we are to expect. The temperature here in central England is expected to reach all of 27 deg C. This according to the Met Office and its media alarmists is,…… well alarming!
Those of us with slightly more balanced attitudes will be getting out the barbecue putting on some sausages, chicken thighs, and steak all enjoyed with liquids containing intoxicating levels of alcohol (not if you are pregnant) or whatever you like, alcohol free.
Regarding diet and its impact on health. My observation is, those who don’t consume prescription drugs on a regular/daily basis are healthier than those that do….draw you own conclusions about the merit of prescription drugs.
It looks like too many people are forced into regular drug taking because an expert (nothing to do with big pharma of course) has told them, it is the best thing for them to do.
Makes you wonder doesn’t it?

Janet Smith
Reply to  Rod Evans
August 24, 2019 3:02 am

I was the first commenter on this article. I am 76 and take no drugs (except alcohol) and long may this last. BTW we regularly have temperatures in SW NSW Australia of 40 degrees C or over and we survive!

Mark A Luhman
Reply to  Rod Evans
August 24, 2019 10:42 am

27 C in barely warm let alone hot. My house during the day is air condition to 26 C, of course in Mesa AZ this time of the year the normal day time temperature is 40 C. Thursday the outside temp was 45.5 C, an yes we did have an excessive heat warning. They generally occur at 43 C.

August 24, 2019 1:44 am

I’ve been pomdering this issue for some time as my blood pressure goes up (I’m now 60) as does my weight,
although I’m not what most people would think of as overweight.
I get plenty of exercise (cycle everywhere, swim twice a week, go hill walking), but lately the podge has been building up , so I try and cut down on the grub.
Usually I’m prettty hungry by lunch time.
Normally, I’m a muesli/fruit/toast man for breakfast, so I just cut down the quantities.
Recently I’ve tried a bacon/eggs breakfast instead, and on those days I find that I’m much less hungry at lunch time. On one day I could happily have skipped lunch, but as I’d brought it I ate it.
Sure, it’s just me, and not exactly scientific, but I feel an experimental regime change coming on,
and I don’t mean adopting veganism, more like the Monckton diet.
One problem is that I adore fried potatoes.
All in moderation I guess, and only fried in beef dripping….

Reply to  sonofametman
August 24, 2019 2:42 am


See my post re Zoe Harcombe.

She advocates bacon and eggs for breakfast because the body takes much longer to digest protein that rabbit food. That’s why you don’t feel hungry at lunch time after a proper breakfast.

I adopted her eating regime for 5 days and lost 14lbs. It’s easy as well, no starving, just a blooming cracker of a headache on day 3 as the sugar is finally flushed from your system.

With exercise, and cheating on the diet (beer) I lost 42lbs in 3 months.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  sonofametman
August 24, 2019 6:46 am

Concerning high blood pressure. Make sure your BP is taken the correct way. Your arm should be at the height of your heart, straight out and supported so as not to be rigid. Palm up. You should wait at least 5 minutes from the time you sit down to the time your BP is taken. I have had my BP taken with my arm hanging at my side or my arm at a 90 degree angle resting on the arm of a metal chair and various positions in between. Most of the time immediately after walking in to the room and sitting down. Every time it is not in the correct position it will give a reading of 10 pts higher or more in both numbers. I was told I had high BP after ONE reading in a doctors office but refused to be put on medication. I got a BP device and took my BP several times a week, at the same time, in the same place with proper arm angle and wait time. It is never even close to being high.

August 24, 2019 2:07 am

Two extraordinarily good sources of information about dietary health and heart conditions, including the immense con visited upon humankind of statins, to ‘cure’ cholesterol. Statins are the single most profitable drug the pharmaceutical industry has ever invented by a very big margin.

The first site worth looking at is by Dr. Malcolm Kendrick, a practising Doctor in Cambridge, UK who has written a couple of books on the subject.

The second site I’ll introduce with a presentation made by it’s owner, Dr Zoe Harcombe, PhD who developed the Harcombe diet which, I suspect, Chris conformed to (if not specifically followed). But far from being one of those dispassionate ‘experts’ who preach good nutrition with no real knowledge of it, as a young woman Zoe was anorexic and bulimic. In a successful attempt to address the problem she went full blown Academic. So much so that this incredibly intelligent woman uses the Laws of Thermodynamics to illustrate her point in this fast paced and often amusing presentation.

Well done Chris.

Tom Morgan
Reply to  HotScot
August 24, 2019 9:11 am

I second the advice to go to Malcolm Kendrick’s blog site – and to acquire and read his books, ‘The Great Cholesterol Con’, ‘Doctoring Data’ and his most recent book ‘A Statin Nation’ . Each of the 3 books goes into great detail on how the body uses saturated fatty acids, and how carb’s are processed by the body.

In his blog he has many times lamented that the UK NHS tells diabetics to avoid fat in favor of carbs.


Flight Level
August 24, 2019 2:12 am

An old “trade secret” goes along with the experience of Lord Monckton.

A premature loss of “the medical” is a career ender, full stop. Whatever the reason, no matter why.

Valiant old grumpy steam-gauges training captains did always breakfast on eggs and bacon + full cream coffee and rise considerable hell in hotels where such ingredients were not readily available no matter the hour.

Then with a very colorful verbiage they will explain to the us, the lowest forms of life of the galaxy, that guys on starvation diet have nothing to do with their plans and are not even worth the supreme privilege of detailing board lavatories.

Those still standing would further learn that the body needs it’s oil levels adjusted every morning or will grow fat, turn sleepy, stupid, sloppy and disgracefully inapt to keep kerosene flowing when the pudding hits the fan.

August 24, 2019 2:35 am

@Viscount Monckton of Brenchley

Curious as why you did not go although way back to the beginning of “Saturated Fat is Bad Dept”.

The Russian 1910 study using rabbits of all things. For those wondering rabbits have no biochemical machinery to process large amounts of dietary fat.

Reply to  JEHILL
August 24, 2019 2:16 pm

I’m not convinced. Vitamin D / sunshine can’t explain Australia, nor the stark difference between Sweden and Finland.

In the case of Fin-land, there are multiple factors.

* genetics in which calorie rich diet is a risk, or excess cholesterol
* class poverty meaning risk factors combine: smoking, alcohol use, black-fried food, avoidance of healthy exercise, polluted environment such as low indoor air quality, thinking being fat is manly
* epigenetic factors were unheard of in 1953
* stress related to the WWII
* excessive salt use
* use of cheapest bovine meat / sausage (combines with poverty)
* too much of potatoes (like in Ireland?)

The thing is, if these ppl had the money to use butter and milk and pork and fish, they’d be much healthier, but they ate bovine fat from old cows, and a lot of potatoes with the fat. They smoked, drank booze a lot and eventually reached healthy 120 kg and a heart attack.

August 24, 2019 2:42 am

An excellent article. Thanks.

Here is my hypothesis:
During Darwin’s voyage on the Beagle, he observed a naked native mother, sitting on a rock, feeding her baby with the snow falling down upon them both.
I wonder how they survived.
During the little ice age the population went about its business largely without benefit of fire or additional heat, which was a bit of a luxury.
How did it survive?

I understand that the answer lies in BROWN fat which generates heat to regulate body temperature. This is different from WHITE fat which breaks down into sugars to fuel muscles and provide energy.
I can but surmise that in both these instances above large amounts of brown fat would have been found in the bodies of these individuals and their diets would have been high in meat and high protein sources.

I suggest meat protein tends to produce brown fat, whereas carbohydrates produce the white variety. A balance is therefore required in one’s diet, depending on life style and the environment in which you live.

Today we have central heating, warm cars and clothing and regulated temperatures in our work places which removes the need for brown fat so our bodies then tend to produce white fat which is a prime cause of obesity if not burnt off by rigorous exercise. This in turn leading to potential diabetes?

Food for thought as you smack your lips at the prospect of your next good steak.

Reply to  Alasdair
August 24, 2019 3:22 am

That’s what I strive for – balance. I listen to my whole body (not just my taste buds) and eat what it tells me to.

Reply to  Alasdair
August 24, 2019 4:11 am

Have a look at this movie from Iceland – The Deep. The star of the show had British doctors completely befuddled as to how he swam for 6 hours from a sunken fishing boat to the coast at night.

August 24, 2019 2:43 am

I’ve gone down a similar path. I all but cut out the big 4: bread, pasta, rice & potatoes. I then upped protein consumption including red meat and much oily fish so that my calories from carbs were replaced by calories from protein. My 80% adherence to the strict version of the low carb diet means I’m still eating some carbs but not the crazy high amounts I was. I’ve lost 20lbs in 3 months and have 30lbs to go.

In addition, I do high intensity interval training (HIIT) which increases insulin sensitivity (you feel less sluggish for hours afterwards). And intermittent fasting which also increases insulin sensitivity. Both practices are advocated by low carb doctors and are backed by peer reviewed studies. But they all say that exercise and calorie counting alone won’t make you lose weight because your appetite on high carbs goes into overdrive to compensate.

I don’t count calories either. My weight fluctuates up and down a bit but with a downward trend. Just slow weight loss. I’d probably lose it faster if I adhered to 95%.

Reply to  Scute
August 24, 2019 7:33 am

Same here, stopped eating hi carb processed foods and enjoyed meat, eggs and dairy along with above ground veggies plus home made kraut. I ate later in the day making an event of my home cooked meal and skipped a day without hunger pains. When you eat good fats and protein your body is satiated; could you really enjoy a second T-bone steak? There is no stop eating carbs switch, primitive man would eat seasonal fruits and store the extra fat to get through the hard winter to come.
Lost 30 lbs. won a big bet and continue still. Only bad part is the lo-carb beer err water I drink now!

Erast Van Doren
Reply to  polski
August 24, 2019 8:23 am

Now go and measure your cholesterol and do an insulin resistance test. Plant based without oils – LDL-C can be as low as 60mg/dl. Go on keto and watch your cholesterol skyrocket to 200-300-400! And to be safe from atherosclerosis you need to be below 70. At the same all that fat will inhibit insulin signaling pathways, making you resistant to it. And no, insulin is not only for carbs. Insulin has tons of regulatory functions. For example in hippocampus it is needed to make memories.
Go to a big keto reddit group. Type in any medical condition. Watch an exploding number of problems. Now go a plant-based group. No problems. Example? Gallstones?
High LDL?

Thank me later, when don’t die from a heart attack.

Reply to  Erast Van Doren
August 24, 2019 10:31 am


I have my own personal data, when I get off my elliptical I will show my data.

Not my experience.

Erast Van Doren
Reply to  JEHILL
August 24, 2019 11:20 am

Maybe you were blessed with some exceptional genes, but for most high fat diet == early death.

Reply to  Erast Van Doren
August 24, 2019 3:17 pm

Read Malcolm Kendricks books.

High fat diets are good, cholesterol is not a threat.

Ultimately, we all die from heart attacks.

Erast Van Doren
Reply to  HotScot
August 25, 2019 2:46 am

Kendricks is a fraud. The science of atherosclerosis is very well understood: LDL particle goes through the endothelial cells via transcytosis, gets stuck in the elastic membrane beneath, oxidizes, and gets eaten by a macrophage thus forming a foamy cell, which is the initial stage of atherosclerosis. HDL particle can also go into the membrane, but it can get cholesterol out of the foamy cell and return it to the liver. So, the progression of atherosclerosis is mostly the question of cholesterol in by LDL/cholesterol out by HDL. And this is dependent mostly on cholesterol level in your blood. I could explain every detail in much greater detail if you wish. But the bottom line is: we do know how it works, and Kendricks has chosen to ignore it to make money with the high-fat hype.

Reply to  HotScot
August 25, 2019 4:32 pm

Erast Van Doren

When you can qualify as a General Practitioner, publish widely accepted books and run a blog issuing regular updates on heart disease, whist operating as a General Practitioner, I might consider your claim that Malcolm Kendrick is a fraud.

Until then, I’ll consider his sceptical opinions on various aspects of medical science and take them far more seriously than yours.

I could explain every detail in much greater detail if you wish.

Whilst you’re at it, can you explain how stomach ulcers develop? Oh no, never mind, those are caused by stress and have nothing to do with bacteria.

August 24, 2019 3:35 am

Christopher Monckton’s experience just confirms for me again that the medical profession is the leading cause of death in the West. A 1999 JAMA study found it to be the 3rd leading cause of death, but that study was limited to just deaths in hospitals. IMO, if you’re not well informed, you put your life in your hands when you go to the doctor.

Reply to  icisil
August 24, 2019 4:54 am

Just found a 2016 John Hopkins study that affirms the same thing. This and the JAMA study don’t touch on the untold deaths caused by the medical establishment’s false paradigms of health that circumscribe it.

Reply to  icisil
August 25, 2019 7:46 am

The trick is to go to the doctor only when you have a threatening or uncomfortable condition for which they have a biologically plausible effective treatment. Think infection requiring antibiotics, treatment for broken bone or other trauma, something in your eye. STAY AWAY from so-called “primary care” which is lifetime pharma maintenance while actively inducing the “unhealthy” condition through the recommended high-carb diet.

I’ve lately concluded it’s biologically impossible for most people over 40 to have acceptable “numbers” while “healthy eating” the way they tell you. Also, “screening” for cancer is a fraud; the NNT is off the chart, just as it is for statins, most BP pills, and prophylactic aspirin. You’re more likely to experience grave harm from any of those pills OR a colonoscopy or mammogram than be “saved” from something overwhelming probability says you’ll never get anyway. But this universal indoctrination has been a great cash cow for the hospital systems.

Useful law of Nature: You can not “need” something that didn’t exist during the whole of history.

john in cheshire
August 24, 2019 3:38 am

Are all these self-declared learned people students of Trofim Lysenko?

john in cheshire
August 24, 2019 4:04 am

A minor point but what is the meaning of the word ‘ halating ‘?
I can’t find it in the dictionary and the nearest spelling of the word ‘ halation ‘ is to do with light.

Reply to  john in cheshire
August 24, 2019 6:43 am

Maybe derived from the Latin word halitus, meaning ‘breath’??

Reply to  john in cheshire
August 24, 2019 6:58 am

‘Inhalation’ is ‘breathing in’.
‘Exhalation’ is ‘breathing out’.
I expect ‘halation’ is just ‘breathing’.

August 24, 2019 4:31 am

Part of the problem with beef is most simply cannot cook, and reach for some package.
Previously women did that well, but seem to mostly have turned vegan, so the poor hunter-gatherer is left to chew lettuce.
To the rescue! Have a look at Jamie Oliver’s fabulous fish and chips, done in beef fat of course, or the most perfect unbelievable steak in the good old British style, 3cm thick minimum, sliced at an angle. Really so simple. Forget cast iron pans, use the latest technology though (lava, granite surface style) – burning is a real show-stopper. Then flambe’d with Kirsch – after all the use of fire defines mankind!
It’s actually very easy – get over that hurdle!

Reply to  bonbon
August 24, 2019 5:23 am

easier again
if you have a flat both sides grill press? its NOT just for sandwiches;-)
slice a couple of spuds to the same thickness as the steak you want
place the steak in the middle -condiments of choice and slam it down
dinner in 10 mins or so allowing the spuds to go soft inside crisp outside
rare steak flip once and remove while spuds cook or put them in first;-)
and my preference is a smear of wasabi paste on the steak as served.
NOT the georgeforeman ones that allow all the juice n good fats to drain and be an utter waste btw;-)
i beat their permanent drainhole ovens by using an oven bag to keep fat n juices in too..OR jam a specially cut spud into the drain bung

Roger Knights
Reply to  bonbon
August 24, 2019 8:32 pm

I throw beef, carrots, potatoes, and vegetables into a countertop, electrical pressure cooker, lie the best-selling Instant Pot. (No monitoring needed.) After 30 minutes the heaat turns of and it cools down for another 15–20 minutes (less if one flips the valve release). I add spices (they weaken if pressure cooked) and convert it with a stick blender into a thick slurry that can be either drunk or spooned. To thin it I add a quart of tomato sauce or stewed tomatoes, from a can. Since doing this three years ago I’ve lost 35 pounds in six months, from 185 to 150, and have had to take in my trousers.

I made other dietary changes too, so this may not be a miracle worker for others. I suspect the problem with our diet may have to do with other relatively unsuspected source, such as leaching plastic (including in the lining of cans, perhaps) and a shortage of vitamin K2.

August 24, 2019 4:37 am

For those looking to get a quick yet fact-filled presentation on Type 2 Diabetes and on how study after study intending to show what foods were “BAD” for us showed exactly the opposite, search for Dr. Jason Fung on Youtube. He shows the results from the studies and how essentially all of them supported the necessity of a low carb, high fat diet. He’s also got an easy reading book, “The Diabetes Code.”

Funny how salt was the bad guy, yet the trade-off for lowering blood pressure ~3mmHg, is a host of problems that cause use of ACE inhibitors and other less than healthy medications.

August 24, 2019 4:49 am

Ham and bacon, chicken, beef, smoked beef sausage, turkey, butter – you can try to pry this stuff from my cold, dead hands but I’ll outlive Al Gore by at least 20 years and snort with laughter when he goes, along with his True Believers. Looking forward to it, in fact.

Doesn’t mean I don’t eat fruits and veggies, either. Oh, bother, I left out ICE CREAM!!! FOOD OF THE GOODS! And chocolate. And wine – a good glass of red wine will clean the crap out of your blood vessels better than any of that chemical poison concocted in labs.

Didn’t a rise in cancer rates coincide with changing the US Food Pyramid a while back? Cancer is a failure of the immune system. What would compromise your immune system more than following a plan that seems guaranteed to shove you into an early grave?

And stop drinking that crap called diet soda. Aspartame is lethal and expensive. Drink water, wine, milk, tea, coffee, juice – anything but diet soda.

old white guy
August 24, 2019 4:56 am

carbs have been keeping mankind alive for thousands of years, quick, let’s give them up…..

Reply to  old white guy
August 24, 2019 5:32 am

I think re-evaluating carbs in the diet is a healthy thing (e.g., complex carbs instead of refined carbs), but a lot of what I’m reading is just insane. Extreme elimination of all or most carbs might be beneficial for some who haven’t followed a good diet for decades and need a drastic correction, but, like you say, humanity has existed quite well on whole grains and fruits (along with meats) for millennia.

Reply to  icisil
August 24, 2019 6:25 am

Yep, if you haven’t read or explored this it will be weird or insane to your ears.

I have eaten a paleo or keto diet for nearly 15 years. Remember, we have only had agriculture for only 6000-8000 years. The species and progenitors species has spent most of it’s time in nutritional ketosis.

I have gone weeks and months with no fruit or vegetables. Blood lipids stable, A1C stable, glucose stable.

Deep Nutrition, Catherine Shanahan, MD

Not necessarily paleo or keto but it is my blue print.
Notable followers are Dwight Howard and Kobe Bryant.

Frankly, good health starts in the kitchen and cooking. If you get your steak or any meat above 170F there is no nutritional value left in that steak and worse you make nearly impossible for your body to with it. It is damn near toxic. It is the first stage of inflammation. How you cook the food is probably more important than what you cook. If you ask for a steak well done, you should probably be vegetarian or vegan.

Reply to  JEHILL
August 24, 2019 7:43 am

I’m not saying keto or low-carb is insane. What I am saying is nuts is the idea that a balanced diet containing complex carbs (whole grains, vegetables, nuts, fruits) is unhealthy. There are a lot of healthy nutrients in those foods that are not available in meat, and health is much more complex than just blood chemistry. Keto does interest me, but I don’t think it’s requisite for good health.

Erast Van Doren
Reply to  icisil
August 24, 2019 8:35 am

Keto actually IS insane and a sure way to die young.

Reply to  Erast Van Doren
August 24, 2019 9:51 am

@Erast Van Doren

The current reality is you and I will not agree.

The current reality is we could equally list the pros and cons of the KD. I am 50 years old, been following KD since the age of 33, I look 35-38 and genetically I am 43. Your mileage may vary.

What is not in dispute is since the wholesale recommendation of large amounts carbohydrates across western societies is the near instantaneous increase in obesity and T2D. As the Viscount has pointed out in this article.

I addressed some of your concerns elsewhere.

What you know and what you have read probably should not be trusted. I have been the care given for several family members that are diabetic; I have done more to help than their doctors. Think about this for a second; when a doctor sees an overweight person with high glucose and high insulin they give them insulin. How in the world does that make sense?

Medical systems make more money off diabetes patients than any other group of patients.

Reply to  icisil
August 24, 2019 8:43 am

I avoid all grains but that is a me thing. My population study of n=1 has taught me to avoid. Keep the vegetables and fruits to a minimum. Try to make as much as I can in my own kitchen. Water, coffee, tea, or goat’s milk for a drink.

Over cooking, since cooking is highly kinetic chemistry, is a no no as it can add highly inflammatory compounds and, in some cases create carcinogens, to the final product. Pay attention to what fats you cook with and what at temperatures those fats decompose and oxidize. Match the right tool, oil in this case, to the application.

I do two 24 hour fasts per week and every few weeks do 48-96 hours fast. A light salad with low GI fruit, nuts, with a homemade vinaigrette and a half serving of a fatty protein upon exiting a fast.

Most of us just eat way too much way to often. PUT DOWN THE FORK AND STEP AWAY FROM THE TABLE!

Erast Van Doren
Reply to  icisil
August 24, 2019 11:29 am

Fat-free potato/rice diet gets from insulin in a matter of days. Two week and diabetes is cured in most patients.
Why? Because fat inhibits IRS protein which is indispensable in insulin signaling. Get rid of all that intracellular fat – and insulin resistance (which is the underlying problem in type 2 diabetes) goes away.
Basically all NEFA levels above 400nmol/l are toxic. Try to move 50-60g of fat per day through your vessels – and you are easily beyond the line.

Erast Van Doren
Reply to  icisil
August 24, 2019 12:13 pm

Here is the science behind the insulin resistance:

Fats are the culprit, so please stop pushing high fat diets.

Reply to  icisil
August 24, 2019 5:01 pm

Something I missed from that video (it was far too technical for me) is how does consumption of dietary fat correlate to where it gets stored, i.e. ectopic fat, or subcutaneous fat. I hope that makes sense.

Reply to  icisil
August 24, 2019 5:21 pm

He completely misunderstood the video.

Hell I have paper written by some of the same authors on how work out and exercise while in nutritional ketosis

I have post up pointing this out.

Erast Van Doren
Reply to  icisil
August 25, 2019 7:26 am

@icisil Something I missed from that video (it was far too technical for me) is how does consumption of dietary fat correlate to where it gets stored, i.e. ectopic fat, or subcutaneous fat.

Good question. There two means of fat transport in the blood:
1. Lipoproteins move triglycerides (TG) around
2. Albumin moves free fatty acids (FFA) around the body. Also called NEFA – Non-Estherified Farry Acids.

Lipoproteins are firstly involved in moving TGs from the gut to the periphery (mostly adipose tissue), and second – from the liver to the periphery. Where lipoproteins unload TGs is dependent on the expression (making proteins accordings to the gene recipe in certain cell type and organ) of the lipoprotein lipase (LPL), which is dependent on the insulin level. LPL is expressed mostly in fat tissue, and somewhat in muscles, heart and some glands. The weight of heart and glands is, of course, much lower than the weight of fat and muscles, so only the latter consume large amount of TGs. From this you can already conclude that most TGs from meals land directly in the adipose tissue. Yes, that’s right: fat you eat goes straight to the fat tissue. Some minor proportion however goes to muscles_ and this proportion gets higher if insulin is low. Insulin get low if you eat low-carb, high-fat. So, more fat goes to the muscle cells on LCHF, thus promoting intracellular fat.

However, most fat in your system is moved by albumin – when adipose tissue release fat to provide other cells with energy – it is moved around by albumin. It can be as high as 200g/day on high fat diet. And how much your muscle cells get is proportional to the NEFA level. If you rely more on fat – your NEFA level will be higher. If a person on a low-fat diet could have NEFA like 100-200nmol/l, your typical LCHFer will be at 700-800nmol/l. Some will be over 1000, and after a fatty meal you will get as high as 2000.

Is it harmful? You bet. Look at this:
High NEFA levels injure the endothelial cells in your vessel, they constricts, blood flow is severely reduced… And, of course, you’ll get accumulation of the intracellular fat too.

Bottom line:
1. Too low insulin is harmful. LCHF leads to low insulin. Low insulin redistributes fat from the adipose tissue to the muscles. This promotes insulin resistance through lipotoxicity.
2. High fat meals lead to fatty spillover, thus spiking NEFA levels up to 2000nmol/l. This injures your blood vessels directly and also provides too much fat for your organs.
3. High reliance on fat for energy also leads to high NEFA levels up to 1000nmol/l. Levels above 400nmol/l are toxic.

I could of course provide much more details, but the commenting function here is highly inadequate.

Reply to  icisil
August 25, 2019 9:22 am

Yikes, that video is scary. I’m digging your comments because they make perfect empirical sense to me. I’ve eaten a high complex-carb, high protein, low-fat, extremely low refined carb diet most of my life (I was hand grinding wheat to make bread when I was a teenager), and I’ve never had to worry about my weight; until recently when I’ve kind of gotten away from that and started eating more fats. Now I have to think about weight. I thought it was just getting older. I’m going to revert to my former diet and see what happens. I think I know.

Erast Van Doren
Reply to  icisil
August 25, 2019 11:23 am

I’m going to revert to my former diet and see what happens. I think I know.

I dropped 15 pounds in 6 weeks after I went on hard low-fat diet. And I wasn’t overweight to begin with – I’ve been always very active and my body fat almost never went over 20%. When I began my new diet I was at 18%, and dropped to 12%. I’m 47, by the way.

I eat one pound of fish, mostly salmon, per week for omega-3 and cobalamin, and besides of this mostly whole plant-based food: no eggs, no diary. Lean meat very occasionally. No added oils. Salmon gives me 10g of fat per day, and the rest another 10g of fat for 20g fat total. 60-70g protein.

Reply to  icisil
August 25, 2019 12:42 pm

Sounds like my normal/ideal diet except for the eggs and occasional cheese.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  old white guy
August 24, 2019 6:51 am

If carbs are so bad, how did humans evolve in the tropics with all that fruit to eat? Why do we have grinding teeth designed to crush plant material? Refined sugar nope, but proper carbs in general are needed for health. Having said that, my wife just finished making my eggs and bacon.

Reply to  Tom in Florida
August 24, 2019 10:56 am

“If carbs are so bad, how did humans evolve in the tropics with all that fruit to eat? ”

As I understand it, pure fruits aren’t so bad because they take quite a while to digest rather than hitting your blood in a huge burst like sugary drinks. But the big issue is that those ancient ancestors didn’t live long enough for diabetes to matter. The vast majority were dead long before diabetes could kill them.

Many of the diseases we’re seeing today were irrelevant in the past because no-one lived long enough to get them.

Reply to  old white guy
August 24, 2019 6:55 am

There’s a vast difference between the whole grains used by small bakeries for baking bread, and the heavily-refined and bleached grains used in commercial products like soda crackers and boxed cereals. IN addition, most commercial breads and cereals are loaded with refined sugar, which nobody needs.

Read the labels. Why would a horse have a healthier gut, on a diet of hay, pasture grasses, cracked corn and oats, than a human being raised on sugar-loaded, debased sandwich bread? Because the horse gets the benefit of all the nutrients in what it eats, and humans get something that is mostly loaded with sugar.

Erast Van Doren
Reply to  Sara
August 24, 2019 7:11 am

Yeah, explain this to Dr. Kempner, who cured thousands of patients with white rice diet, which also had sugar (yes, sugar!) in it.

Reply to  Erast Van Doren
August 24, 2019 8:22 am

That blows my mind.

Erast Van Doren
Reply to  icisil
August 24, 2019 9:19 am

Actually it shouldn’t if you know the effects of lipotoxicity. White rice and potatoes (the potato hack!) are very low in fat, so what happens here is delipidation of your cells, which removes the lipotoxic effects common on the modern diet.
Intracellular fat hoes away – normal signaling is restored – most civilization diseases goes away. Very simple really.
Try to eat no more than 10-20g fat/day – it is insanely effective.

Reply to  icisil
August 24, 2019 5:13 pm

Per your video above I missed where he mentioned low dietary fat intake causes delipidation of ectopic fat.

Reply to  icisil
August 24, 2019 5:24 pm

I’m going to get an air fryer and try the potato hack.

Erast Van Doren
Reply to  icisil
August 25, 2019 2:28 am

@icisil The lecturer was explaining biochemistry, not the diet stuff. But he said very clearly that too much of the fatty acids in the blood is the cause of all these problems.

It was not in the lecture, but if NEFA level is reduced, then cells burn off the accumulated intracellular fat.

Reply to  Erast Van Doren
August 24, 2019 7:13 pm

Thiamin deficiency (causing beriberi) is most common among people subsisting on white rice or highly refined carbohydrates in developing countries and among alcoholics. Symptoms include diffuse polyneuropathy, high-output heart failure, and Wernicke-Korsakoff syndrome.

Look it up, Erast.

Erast Van Doren
Reply to  Sara
August 25, 2019 2:36 am

Sara, nobody is suggesting that you eat rice and only rice all your life. Anyway, Kempner’s patients also ate some veggies. And I think potatoes are much better for that. The reason why Kempner has chosen rice is simple – he was treating kidney patients at the time, and therefore needed a low-protein food.

But all this is irrelevant, because 1-2 weeks on the rice/potato diet are sufficient for most patients to get rid of diabetes. And in 2 weeks nothing bad happens. Actually Kempner had a patient who went on the diet for 6 month because she misunderstood Kempner’s instruction – he was a German Jew with a heavy German accent. Nothing bad happened to her – she was completely cured when she came back 6 months later.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Sara
August 24, 2019 8:02 am

“There’s a vast difference between the whole grains used by small bakeries for baking bread, and the heavily-refined and bleached grains used in commercial products like soda crackers and boxed cereals.”

No telling what kinds of chemicals are being put in Fast Foods.

I saw a news article some time ago where a woman had a silver serving tray with a glass cover sitting on her desk, and on a plate underneath the glass was a McDonalds hamburger and an order of french fries. The top bun on the hamburger had been turned over and moved aside so you could see the hamburger patty and the lettuce and pickle on top.

The hamburger and fries looked like they had been recently purchased, but in fact, her display was two and one-half years old! Now what chemical could keep a burger and fries looking fresh for over two years?

Monckton of Brenchley
Reply to  old white guy
August 25, 2019 12:02 am

In response to Old White Guy and Icisil, agriculture – and thus grains – have been with us for only 10,000 years at most. We’ve been eating meat for 2 million years. We are, therefore, far better adapted to meat-eating than to grain-eating.

August 24, 2019 5:15 am

Not only does the British Empire (sorry, not some Deep State, with all due respects to various esteemed), want to reduce the population by 5 billion (see Sir John Schellnhuber CBE) resulting in horrible disease, starvation, but also plant genocide by removing CO2.
That Empire has declared war on mankind and the biosphere. Its lebensraum is threatened by teeming humanity. Still, declaring war on CO2 makes Hi*tler look amateur.
The latest ploy is Prince Harry’s Mrs Markle, Duchess of Sussex Vogue magazine cover.

Reply to  bonbon
August 25, 2019 9:05 am

Anybody getting their “scientific” news from Vogue should be among the first ones culled. They’ve already flunked the IQ audition.

Kevin A
August 24, 2019 5:33 am

The “Atkins diet” (high protein low carb) has been around since the 80ties and has always been trashed by the MSM. It is easy to see why were unhealthy, read the ingredients on processed food, everything is full of sugar and salt. At 117/74 and 70 years old my high protein diet is working fine…

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Kevin A
August 24, 2019 8:07 am

If you want to lose weight quickly, go on the Atkins diet. It works.

As noted above, there is controversy over the Atkins diet but I think it is more of a general controversy about whether a high meat diet is bad for the heart or not. One should study up on it before deciding what to do.

Bill in France
Reply to  Kevin A
August 24, 2019 8:43 am

Er, early seventies I think. Also, John Yudkin (UK) did proper research (unlike Keys) and came to the conclusion that sugar was the real problem with heart disease and I think cancer (see the work of Otto Warberg). He was drowned out in that debate,at that time by keys. His book ‘Pure White and Deadly” is well worth a read. I have been wondering when these two long running debates would cross, it would seem they may well do in the near future. The proponents of CAGW and the Food Pyramid bollocks are one and the same- stupid, arrogant and victims of the their own ‘training’ and indoctrination. I could go on but I fear it would be a long, long rant! By the way, whilst I have works by all the authors mentioned, my favourite is ‘The Drinking Mans Diet’ a small book published in the early sixties, it has everything you need to know about having a fun life IMHO!

R Taylor
August 24, 2019 5:57 am

Please sir, I want some more.

August 24, 2019 6:09 am

August 24, 2019 7:51 am

And they want us to believe they can determine what the global temperature was within 0.01 C a century ago.

Dave O.
August 24, 2019 6:27 am

Without meat in the diet, the risk of B-12 deficiency is high. Especially if you don’t take ‘unnatural’ ‘non organic” supplements.

Jay Willis
August 24, 2019 6:29 am

Beautifully written article, a little light on scientific content. In the 1800’s some 30 million buffalo were killed in north America. At about 2 tonne each this 60 million tonnes of biomass was strangely similar to the 2 million whales killed in the southern ocean between around 1900 and 1970, each about 30 tonne. Anyhow, I digress, there’s probably about 300-400 million cattle in the U.S. now. So that little factoid about the herbivores is dimensionally wrong.
As for diet, I would tend to listen to Cambell and his book “the China Study” which demonstrates the importance of the balance between protein from animal sources and protein from plant source. Unlike the above article and practically all the diets mentioned in the comments so far, this study is based on exhaustive scientific approach. The answer is unequivocal, we need to eat less meat, and more plant based whole foods to live longer.

Rod Evans
Reply to  Jay Willis
August 24, 2019 8:26 am

Living longer is not in itself necessarily a good thing. I have seen far too many “living longer” people in care homes, that are not good ambassadors, for living longer.
Living healthier is a good option, living a more active productive life is good too. I think (from personal experience) too much talk and not enough action, literally too little action, is the cause for many issues that visit people in later life.
My mother is 95 has enjoyed a balanced diet all her life. She didn’t smoke, drank a small sherry from time to time and has not been on drugs ever and still isn’t, she lives in her own home and is a good example of modest unfussy eating habits.

Jay Willis
Reply to  Rod Evans
August 24, 2019 11:13 am

Rod, yes a good point, and good news for your mother. Yes, living longer isn’t the only thing, but living an active life without disease is the real goal. But the point that is made by Campbell in his book is that on a population level, if we balanced our diets with more plant protein as opposed to animal protein we’d see a whole lot less diabetes, heart disease, osteoporosis, and cancer – he supports this by one of the most exhaustive studies of diet ever made.

Bill in France
Reply to  Jay Willis
August 24, 2019 9:06 am

Trashed by Denise Minger. Rice, grains and potato are for the poor, i.e. when you don’t have access to protein and fat. Our ‘betters’ have taken people back to shit peasant diets. If there is one expression I hate its ‘ everything in moderation’ ,Its a cop out, people need to eat more fat and animal protein , not less. You need to do a lot more research sir.

Reply to  Jay Willis
August 24, 2019 9:06 am

Brazil exports 20% of global beef, 44% goes to China. Not sure if the China takes notice of the “study”.

Anyway CNN let the cat out of the bag – eat less meat to stop the Amazon forest fires!

About buffalo/bison – they cannot compare to modern herds for sheer production. Mozzarella from bison milk, much praised, but very small yields. Them only problem with modern beef is the 3 huge packer firms dictating prices to farmers below parity.

Reply to  Jay Willis
August 24, 2019 10:28 pm

Your sending a mixed message. First you say you would “tend to listen,” but then in just a breath you jump to “the answer is unequivocal.” My own view is that a vegetarian diet and a low carb diet could both promote health and insulin sensitivity. Since there are three macronutrients there are numerous dietary permutations and no one of them needs be THE healthy diet even when rationales seem to contradict. It’s remarkably to me how varied our diets are and how adaptable digestion is. It’s even more remarkable how numerous and complicated the pathways of metabolic chemistry are. Thirdly, what’s been revealed about genetic variability in lactose digestion suggests that individualized diets not generalized diets are best. The science of metabolism and nutrition is certainly exhausting but saying that your particular position is unequivocal because it’s based on an “exhaustive scientific approach” is a grandiose claim. I just don’t see how you get to a single simple answer in something so complex and actively researched by so many teams of researchers as in the fields of biochemistry and nutrition. As in so many things, we see through a glass darkly, we only know in part.

Tom in Florida
August 24, 2019 6:36 am

“At Harvard, there was once a University”

Sometimes short and sweet is most effective.

Rud Istvan
Reply to  Tom in Florida
August 24, 2019 10:02 am

Sadly, my three degrees from Harvard agree with you. Major gifts office finally figured out I was serious about not a dime until Oreskes is gone. Stopped their annual solicitation treks to Ft. Lauderdale in February.

August 24, 2019 6:36 am

Excellent, thank you. I have been banging on about the Great Herds of USA and Africa for ages but it all hits a brick wall. Nice to know I am not alone!

Andy Pattullo
August 24, 2019 6:43 am

Congratulations Lord Moncton on the return of your health, on taking control of your health from the monopolistic health system which has provided inappropriate and unfounded advice on nutrition for so many decades, and on being of sufficient intelligence to think critically for yourself. As a physician I have provided similar advice to patients for years about the erroneous direction of our food guides and how people are best served by a higher saturated fat, lower carbohydrate diet. I have also seen the examples like your own of patients restoring themselves to health through the diet which we evolved to consume. The parallels between diet and climate “science” are breathtaking.

August 24, 2019 6:46 am

Here is a copy of the 1977 McGovern report on diet.

Erast Van Doren
August 24, 2019 7:09 am

Complete and utter BS. Please read about work of Dr. Kempner (the Rice Diet!), McDougall, Ornish, Barnard, Swank and others. Make a pubmed search on lipotoxicity. Read how fat and cholesterol work on biochemical level – it’s all well known. Best diet is mostly plant-based, starch-based diet with some fish. No added oils, and as little total fat as you are comfortable with.

Bill in France
Reply to  Erast Van Doren
August 24, 2019 10:02 am

Ornish’s ‘ research’ is a joke. Biased studies by people with vested interests do not make a ‘it’s well known’. How come so many people seem to be doing so well on the antithesis of what you are saying? FYI, I have a book written in 1916 which tells people how to minimise the effects of diabetes. There is type 1 diabetes in my family so I know what I’m talking about. The introduction of low fat, high fructose diets worsened the lives of millions od diabetics.

Monckton of Brenchley
Reply to  Bill in France
August 24, 2019 11:53 pm

Mr Van Doren is simply wrong. In meta-analysis after meta-analysis, the dangers of a high-carbohydrate diet are clear.

Erast Van Doren
Reply to  Monckton of Brenchley
August 25, 2019 2:23 am

The problem is, most of epidemiological studies in nutrition are BS. And what happens if you mix BS with some solid meal? You’ll get more BS. Anyway, the same lancet published only one year later another article, claiming fat is bad this time. But the truth is – we don’t need such studies. It is the same BS as trying to calculate mean global temperature.
We have much better evidence, and it’s not in favor of fats. But such studies are also harder to understand – you need to know biochemistry!

Alexander Vissers
August 24, 2019 7:11 am

Most opinions and research on diet are pretty useless, more often laughable and generally all thesis can easily be refuted: when meat was a luxury for most Europeans, as was sugar, obesitas and diabetes were rare. Meat and sugar have only relatively recently become abundant. Concentrating on diet alone is also questionable; stress, sleep, physical exercise may be as important as diet. Bare in mind that sigaret smoking and alcohol consumption patterns have varied significantly over time. Recently more attention has been given to the influence of intestinal microorganisms on human metabolism and biochemistry. Moreover, differences in food tolerance appear to be significant. Unsubstantiated advice as put forward by this nutrition guru is meaningless as is the anecdote of Lord Monckton from a scientific point of view. The conclusion remains that in the absence of convincing evidence to the contrary no need to give up enjoying your Sunday roast.

Monckton of Brenchley
Reply to  Alexander Vissers
August 24, 2019 11:58 pm

Mr Vissers dismisses my article as merely an anecdote. It was more than that. I conducted considerable research in the medico-scientific journals. The results of that research were clear: the foolish governmental recommendation of high carbohydrate intake has been the single biggest contributing factor in the rise of diabetes as a threat to health.

August 24, 2019 7:13 am

I have participated in Dr. Willet’s long term nurses study for 40+ years but this might just be enough for me to drop out!

Gunga Din
August 24, 2019 7:23 am

“It isn’t what we don’t know that gives us trouble, it’s what we know that ain’t so.” Will Rogers

(I know there’s a question of who expressed that idea first but, whoever it was, the idea is sound.)

Beta Blocker
August 24, 2019 7:24 am

Fortunately for me, thirty-five years of occupational exposure to mostly beta and gamma radiation sources has kept my immune system tuned up and ready for action. Just think how much better it might be functioning had there been more exposure to alpha.

Dealing with the complex burdens of government’s heavy-duty regulation of the nuclear industry has kept my mind active and sharp. The challenges of managing my personal interactions with my ardently anti-nuclear relatives has taught me what works and what doesn’t in maintaining cordial relationships with enthusiastically uninformed people.

Even better than that, on the main drag I travel coming home from work, I have my choice among Jack in the Box, McDonald’s, and Burger King whenever the hamburger & fries fast food bug hits me, which happens at least once every other week — sometimes more often as a stress response reaction whenever the QA auditors show up.

Michael H Anderson
August 24, 2019 7:52 am

To the “professor“ I can only echo the sentiments expressed by the late, great Graham Chapman:

michael hart
August 24, 2019 7:53 am

While fermentable fibre of vegetable origin is generally considered beneficial in that it feeds certain ‘good’ micro flora in the gut, many people with Chrone’s Disease or Ulcerative Colitis find that a low-residue diet is most beneficial. That means animal proteins. So this “Professpor of Nutrition” guy can go f himself.

In the wider dietary context, our (Western) problems are mainly related to too many people living to eat, rather than eating to live.

I’ll also bet dimes for Dollars that nobody incarcerated in a WW2 POW camp or concentration camp ever gained weight during their stay. Thermodynamics really does work when applied to diet.

August 24, 2019 8:07 am

They better not come after Beefeater Gin!

Robert A Wright
August 24, 2019 8:07 am

If anyone would like more extensive education on all this, a good book on the subject is “Nutrition in Crisis” by Richard David Feinman. The Nina Teicholz book “The Big Fat Surpise” is also excellent.

Erast Van Doren
August 24, 2019 8:33 am

BTW, Ancel Key did nothing wrong and lived to 102. Watch the Plant Positive videos about the wrongness of the current high fat movement:

Reply to  Erast Van Doren
August 24, 2019 9:01 am

Yeah I have seen it; woefully uninformed. Some of the mistake physicians make when they prescribe or conduct studies using a high fat diet is they take it directly from the epilepsy playbook. They also do not prescribe weight lifting. They also have people eat too many calories. I find when I am in a fat adapted state I do not need as many total calories, regardless of my activities. Cut the eating window down to between 1000hrs and 1600hrs.

How you cook the food is as equally important.

And there is some new research suggesting yoyoing off and on a high fat diet may be problematic. I need to see more studies.

Bill in France
Reply to  Erast Van Doren
August 24, 2019 10:18 am

How do you know he followed his own advice? My understanding is that he was a bacon and eggs kinda guy. Ended his life in southern Europe, I think, where I live. We eat fat, fat and more fat and have the lowest rate of heart disease in the western world. Oh and please don’t cite the mediterranean ‘diet’, it doesn’t exist. We have sunshine.

Monckton of Brenchley
Reply to  Erast Van Doren
August 24, 2019 11:51 pm

In response to the prejudiced Mr Van Doren, Ancel Keys excluded two-thirds of his data from his 1951 paper, because they did not show the results he wanted. And he suppressed the results of the Minnesota study demonstrating his opposition to saturated fats to have been without foundation.

Erast Van Doren
Reply to  Monckton of Brenchley
August 25, 2019 2:05 am

Ancel Keys did so, while no reasonable data on cardiovascular mortality was available from most countries. Did you even listen to the videos? They are excellent, one of the mostly precise on the topic.

Erast Van Doren
Reply to  Monckton of Brenchley
August 25, 2019 2:16 am

It is in fact completely irrelevant what Dr. Keys did. Almost 70 years later we know in great pathophysiological and biochemical detail how it all works. We also do not need epidemiological studies for that, which are the weakest possible evidence anyway. Especially in the field of nutrition, since the food questionnaires are notoriously unreliable.

Therefore I highly recommend that you start with some basic science. Read “Clinical Lipidology: A Companion to Braunwald’s Heart Disease”. Read “Atlas of Atherosclerosis and Metabolic Syndrome”. Maybe read “Insulin Resistance, edited by Sarika Arora” to understand insulin signaling pathways. Then we talk.

August 24, 2019 9:29 am

In this week’s Newd Scientist a reader asks the following question, “From an environmental perspective, is it better to eat imported foods like tofu, quinoa and sweet potato, or beef from a farm a few kilometres up the road?”
First-up to respond was the famous scientist Mr George Nonbiot! He asserts the following:

“This question is easy to resolve. In a paper in Nature last year, a team led by Timothy Searchinger of Princeton University examined the impact of various foodstuffs in terms of carbon. This shows that protein from beef is 73 times worse than protein from soya.” [1],[2]

“A kilogram of beef protein has the equivalent carbon emissions of a passenger flying from London to New York and back.[3] The overall carbon cost of 1 kilogram of beef protein is equivalent to 1250kg of CO2. Aircraft emissions for long-haul flights are roughly 110 grams per passenger per kilometre, and the return distance is 11,170km – so 1229 kg of CO2.” [4]

“In discussing the carbon costs of food, we have greatly exaggerated the role of transport and greatly downplayed the impacts of land use. With the exception of food that is flown, transport tends constitute a small proportion of total carbon cost. The crucial environmental task is minimising the area used by farming. Beef is a highly inefficient use of land. Soya grown in prime sites, is a very efficient use of land – though not without its own major problems.”

“It is also worth noting that there might be more soya in your steak than in your slab of tofu, as the great majority of the world’s soya is grown for animal feed, and conversion efficiencies (especially when producing beef) ensure that you need to pump far more protein into an animal than you get out. [5] So even if you want to eat less soya, you should eat soya.” [6]

[My Comment 1] Was the research sponsored by Monsanto?
[My Comment 2] 73 times worse? The needle is bending itself around the end-stop of my BS detector!
[My Comment 3] I estimate that a return-flight Lon-NY burns about 100 gallons of Jet A1 per passenger.
[My Comment 4] 1229 kg = 1.2 tonnes. George, are you sure about this?]
[My Comment 5] Is grass ‘protein’?
[My Comment 6] Is Monbiot shilling for Monsanto?

Gunga Din
Reply to  JCalvertN(UK)
August 24, 2019 12:34 pm

Monbiot – “In discussing the carbon costs of food,…”

Carbon pollution.
If carbon is a bad thing then why is so much life based on it?
The cost of removing carbon “pollution” is measured in lives.

Reply to  Gunga Din
August 24, 2019 4:55 pm

I would have thought such a disproportionate carbon cost would somehow be reflected in the price. The cheapest return flight from London to NY is a little over £200 ($250). But I can get a kilo of beef steak for about £10 ($12.50) at my local supermarket.

Joel O'Bryan
August 24, 2019 9:53 am

Type O blood group I presume?

Tom in Florida
August 24, 2019 10:06 am

Let me debunk all you “experts” on diet. Your genetic make up, environment you live in, age and activity level will determine what is the best diet for you. And it will probably change over time when those parameters change. About 20 years ago I lost 15% of my body weight over 3 months to win a contest. Here’s how I did:
For breakfast I had a nutritional drink.
For lunch I had a bowl of homemade vegetable soup.
I had an apple for a mid afternoon snack.
For dinner I ate as much pasta with my homemade marinara sauce as I pleased along bread and butter and two glasses of milk.
I was never tired and had lots of energy. My body adjusted and I would only get hungry right before dinner time. By the end I couldn’t stop the weight from coming off.
Oh, did I mention that I ran 5 miles each and every morning? Calories in, calories out.

Bill in France
Reply to  Tom in Florida
August 24, 2019 10:21 am

your point being, I survived a shit diet? Time will tell my friend.

Reply to  Tom in Florida
August 24, 2019 12:15 pm

Tom in Florida: “Your genetic make up, environment you live in, age and activity level will determine what is the best diet for you. And it will probably change over time when those parameters change.”

Absolutely. That’s why we’re seeing such conflicting studies in the comments above such as the Rice Diet vs. Paleo vs. Atkins and other diets mentioned.

Because one diet regime works for some people it doesn’t mean it will work for all people. If what you are doing isn’t working to keep your weight, blood pressure, inflammations, etc. under control. you’re doing it wrong. Try something else.

And you’re correct that it may change over time. I was just reading up on what the 1800s lumberjacks ate; about 8,000 -10,000 calories per day and there were no fat lumberjacks. You could guess what would happen if a lumberjack changed to a less rigorous line of work and continued to eat like a lumberjack.

Joel O’Bryan hinted at the genetic component when he asked about Christopher’s blood type. I’ve not heard anything about it, but it immediately struck me that someone has been studying blood type and diabetes and has probably found some intriguing correlations.

There is no one-size-fits-all-magic-bullet diet that everyone should follow. But I reiterate, if you’re having problems, you’re doing something wrong and should make changes until you find what works for you.

Monckton of Brenchley
Reply to  H.R.
August 24, 2019 11:46 pm

In response to HR, though it is true that genetic, age and other factors make each of us respond to food differently, there is a compellingly strong statistical association between high carbohydrate consumption and metabolic syndrome, obesity, diabetes and its sequelae, Alzheimer’s and dementia, to name but a few. For this reason, the dietary guidelines recommenting against fat, cholesterol and salt and in favor of carbohydrates are profoundly misconceived.m

August 24, 2019 10:16 am

Our bodies are chemical factories. We all have unique genetics, different nutritional absorption rates, and gut flora. There may be general rules that apply to large numbers of people, but we all must find the diet that suits our bodies the best.

I suspect that much harm has been done by past efforts to reduce fats, resulting in increasing sugar and carbs, and that too much or too little of anything may create problems. I am 69, on no medications, in good health, but need to lose twenty or so pounds and my cholesterol is highish (BP is fine). Reducing my consumption of bread, cake, pies, potatoes, and rice, and adding a little more meat, eggs, and ice cream sounds like a good (and safe) experiment. Fortunately, vodka has essentially no carbs! A toast to the good health of everyone!?

Monckton of Brenchley
Reply to  jtom
August 24, 2019 11:43 pm

Jtom should beware: vodka contains alcohol, which is a sugar.

Reply to  jtom
August 25, 2019 1:01 pm

All alcohol has carbs. About 100 calories per shot of 100 proof (if I recall correctly).

ferd berple
August 24, 2019 10:43 am

here are the dead sea scrolls of nutrition:

‘Letter on Corpulence’ is arguably the most important Diet Book ever written. Long before the Atkins Diet and the rush of low-carb diets that followed came a book written – not by Doctors or Nutritionists – but by a humble Victorian Undertaker: William Banting. … Google Books
Originally published: 1863

ferd berple
August 24, 2019 11:10 am
Mike Smith
August 24, 2019 11:29 am

It’s unhealthy to eat too many carbs. But it’s MUCH worse to eat gobs of refined sugars including but not limited to high fructose corn syrup. And, of course, food manufacturers add tons of refined sugars to all the “healthy low-fat” products in an attempt to restore some semblance of flavor.

August 24, 2019 11:37 am

Here is the money quote from a large study (135,000 participants) published in the Lancet (a generally respectable medical journal) last November 2017:

“High carbohydrate intake was associated with higher risk of total mortality, whereas total fat and individual types of fat were related to lower total mortality. Total fat and types of fat were not associated with cardiovascular disease, myocardial infarction, or cardiovascular disease mortality, whereas saturated fat had an inverse association with stroke. Global dietary guidelines should be reconsidered in light of these findings. ”

Consumption of saturated fat lowers risk of stroke!!!!!

Erast Van Doren
Reply to  TedL
August 24, 2019 12:15 pm

Dismal failure to recognize the differences between poor and [rich] reach countries. Junk research really.

Monckton of Brenchley
Reply to  Erast Van Doren
August 24, 2019 11:41 pm

Mr Van Doren appears to have a strong prejudice in favor of carbohydrate consumption. However, the Lancet study is by no means the only study to have revealed that higher carbohydrate intake implies higher mortality and higher fat intake implies lower mortality.

Reply to  Monckton of Brenchley
August 25, 2019 12:40 pm

Do you know what, or if, distinctions were made in those studies between complex carbs and simple/refined carbs? I get the feeling that folks are not making a distinction between the two when talking about carbs.

August 24, 2019 3:03 pm

Sir, you pedal junk science.

The cause of diabetes is unknown. You confuse correlation with causation.

Cutting sugar and processed carbohydrates is part of the treatment for diabetes. THAT DOES NOT MAKE SUGAR AND PROCESSED CARBOHYDRATES THE CAUSE OF DIABETES.

Nor can diabetes be ‘cured.’ It can be successfully treated. Lord Monckton, YOU STILL HAVE IT! Change your ways and the symptoms will come roaring back!

How do I know? I’ve been down the same road as you. Father had it; two older brothers have it. When I broke my leg in 2006 which stopped my exercise, diabetes symptoms arose in one week. Changes in my diet cut the symptoms. Resumption of exercise in 10 weeks caused it to completely disappear.

On the overall topic of government dietary guidelines being junk – even dangerous – you are spot on.

Monckton of Brenchley
Reply to  Gamecock
August 24, 2019 11:39 pm

In reply to Gamecock, I did not alter my diet until I had done extensive reading in the medico-scientific journals. The increase in the incidence and prevalence of type 2 diabetes is indeed caused by an excess of carbohydrates.

If anyone has a genetic predisposition to develop a disease, that predisposition is unalterable. However, the diagnosis of diabetes depends upon five markers none of which is now present in my case. I am, therefore, cured, but remain genetically prone to the disease – just as one might be cured of the common cold but might later catch another cold.

By avoiding carbohydrates, I shall prevent the re-emergence of diabetes. The mechanism by which excess consumption of carbohydrates causes diabetes is well understood and established in the medico-scientific journals. Briefly, carbohydrates become glucose in the body very much faster than the other two macronutrients, and it is the repeated demands upon the pancreas for insulin to manage the resulting glucose spikes that cause diabetes.

Reply to  Monckton of Brenchley
August 28, 2019 10:56 am

Carbohydrates no more cause diabetes than glutin causes celiac disease.

People with diabetes have metabolic problems related to insulin. They can react to sugars and carbohydrates resulting in excess sugar in their blood. It is the diabetes that causes the reaction, not the carbohydrates. People who don’t have diabetes don’t get excess sugar in their blood from the same carbohydrates. People with diabetes who keep their weight down and get sufficient exercise – as in me – don’t get excess sugar in their blood.

Sir, you put the cart before the horse. Diabetes is the problem, not carbohydrates.

But perhaps there is a sound reason for your speculation concerning government guidelines. There are vast numbers of people who have diabetes and don’t know it; their behavior – diet, weight, exercise – have it controlled. The controls work whether intentional or not. Perhaps government caused people to mess up their diet and eat more carbohydrates, pushing them over the threshold of good control, such that their diabetes was expressed. But, again, it is their diabetes that causes their problems. Blaming carbs is ridiculous.

Reply to  Gamecock
August 25, 2019 12:57 pm

“Nor can diabetes be ‘cured.’ It can be successfully treated. Lord Monckton, YOU STILL HAVE IT! Change your ways and the symptoms will come roaring back! ”

That sounds like global warming disease. The symptoms may go away, but the warming is always there. If diabetes is diet-dependent, and the diet is changed to preclude such, then the patient is healed. Congratulations to Monckton of Brenchley for doing what his doctor couldn’t.

August 24, 2019 3:30 pm

This is worthy of another Guy Fawkes style celebration – a night featuring ribeye steak, fireworks, and burnt effigies. And here the author has teed up several candidates. We could go positively medieval about it, and have such a holiday celebration every fortnight, with a different effigy each time throughout the year.

A bit of study, and it might be weekly.

August 24, 2019 5:15 pm


[quote]”Here is the science behind the insulin resistance:

Fats are the culprit, so please stop pushing high fat diets.”[/quote]

Dude! C’mon man @ 13:48 — 17:35: They clearly state that Glucose ingested gets convert to glycogen then fat(lipids) and it is this conversion of glucose to fatty acid that is blocking the GLUT4 uptake receptor. You completely misunderstood. Also look at the next section of the video 18:19; surprise surprise Carbohydrate storage problem in IR people.

@Erast Van Doren said, “____ _____ is a fraud.”

Without evidence that could be consider either defamation or libel — recommend you ask the MODS to remove the comment and insert an apology. There are currently 3-4 active articles on WUWT dealing and detailing what can happen when you cross the line.


Here is some of my evidence for and how to use the right fat for a paleo(eat this way)/ketogenic(exercise to remain in nutritional ketosis) lifestyle:

Erast Van Doren
Reply to  JEHILL
August 25, 2019 2:02 am

No, you are the one who misunderstood it. What was said there (btw, the lecture is pretty basic, I was merely listening to it to be sure the lecturer wouldn’t say anything outrageous):

1. High level of blood NEFA increases intracellular fat in muscle cells

2. Intracellular fat in muscle cells produces DAGs

3. DAGs inhibit IRS-1, thus breaking insulin signaling

4. Without functioning insulin signaling translocation of GLUT-4 into the cell membrane is significantly reduced

5. Therefore strongly reduced glucose intake into the muscle cells

6. Blood glucose remains high

7. Liver has insulin-independent glucose transporters

8. Therefore the liver takes much more glucose in than needed

9. Too much glucose in the liver – it will be converted into liver fat.

But what was the cause of all this? Too much NEFA in the blood. And when is there too much NEFA? When you eat too much fat. Even more precisely there are two main sources of NEFA:

1. Fatty acid spillover after a fatty meal

2. Fatty acid release by the fat tissue. Which depends on the availability of glucose and the undisturbed insulin signaling. Too little glucose – you will be transporting too much of fatty acids through your vessels. Bad insulin signaling (because of too much fat!) – and liver/adipose tissue will be unable to adjust.

As I said – fats are the culprit. Anyway, I know biochemistry of civilization diseases in great detail, so please don’t tell me, that I misunderstood something. I could explain every little detail how something works regarding diabetes or atherosclerosis.

All your references are completely irrelevant here. Yes, β-hydroxybutyrate inhibits NLRP3, thus slightly reducing inflammation. The problem is, fatty meals strongly induce inflammation in the first place.

Reply to  Erast Van Doren
August 25, 2019 1:06 pm


PS: Based on the above post I remain skeptical of your abilities to think clearly and logically and of the value you add to these discussions but please continue…


None of what you are saying matches the reality that most of us have seen or are living through.

You seem to ignore the evolutionary history of homo sapiens, if not all progenitor hominids and humanoids species which extend back in time several million years and needed some metabolic way to exist when there was no agriculture and they potentially lived when food scarcity was their normal. We, in the western or developed world, live a unique place in our species evolutionary history of food abundance.

“High carb – not harmful. Starches are the foundation of our civilization.”

This has been only true for ~8000 years. And I would add, detrimental to good and optimal health of the species. This is the time when modern diseases started to creep into our pathology.

” 9. Too much glucose in the liver – it will be converted into liver fat.”

Agreed, exactly. This is, however, where your ideas and logic fail. This is an over-eating of glucose or any other macro-nutrient made worse by being sedentary. Your Youtube video clearly states this as well. You are getting your cart and horse backwards. The human body works better by eating less regardless of diet. Helping a human eat less is eating a meal that keeps insulin and ghrelin low are high satiety meals. Yes, it was basic energy metabolism biochemistry but who are you to judge that lecturer. That’s very ballsy and arrogant; I am one of those people that has spent time radio labeling some of those molecules; fyi.

“All your references are completely irrelevant here. Yes, β-hydroxybutyrate inhibits NLRP3, thus slightly reducing inflammation. The problem is, fatty meals strongly induce inflammation in the first place.”

And I am suppose to just believe you without you citing specific rebuttal papers; this sounds like fallacy or circular logic to my ears; this is not scientific discourse. This isn’t my work; you are not arguing with me per-se. I also have no bloody idea who you are and I looked. I had never seen you post anything until this topic. I think you are joke; perhaps a shrill; you call people a fraud but offer no evidence; this is not scientific discourse. I do not take anyone’s word for nearly anything without first looking through the data, processing and assimilating data that myself and you have not proven to me that your arguments have merit. And I have worked, for the past 12 years, tangentially close to this by tracking glucose metabolism and other energy metabolism molecules through radio-labeling.

It occurs to me some of this may come down to the standard heuristic paradigm of Tool/Application:
Tool: Various Diets or more appropriately “Eating Lifestyles”
Application: Matching said Tool to metabolic disorder

And diet(eating lifestyle) would change based on qualified and quantified medical/scientific reporting of the patient in as close to real time as possible based on the real time medical needs of the patient. For instance, a patient in trauma needs a higher protein intake as the body is in repair mode.

That should be the true differential diagnosis.

Reply to  JEHILL
August 25, 2019 1:31 pm

@EVD gave his game away with me with just one sentence at the end of one of his posts. My ignore mode was turned on. Like you I also wonder from where he sprung from.

Reply to  mikebartnz
August 25, 2019 2:52 pm


I saw that sentence as well…and thank you.

On top of that he ignores archeology and the evolution biology of our pre-agriculture existence where the species was in constant food scarcity mode and certainly metabolically ketogenic.

Erast Van Doren
Reply to  JEHILL
August 25, 2019 10:16 pm

@ JEHILL I see little sense trying to explain anything to you, because you clearly don’t know and don’t understand biochemistry in the slightest. And on the more generic level I’ve already told you how it works: fatty acids disrupt insulin signaling making all the adverse effects possible. Carbs are completely innocent here.

Reply to  Erast Van Doren
August 25, 2019 11:57 pm


I just did a search using the following “Fatty acid and insulin resistance”:

3rd paragraph of the Introduction, 2nd sentence:

from the study —>@MODS — if you feel these cannot be quote in this fashion please snip

“In the past, access to adequate nutrients was a major concern. Today we have a new concern: Excess nutrient intake. However, even in this regard, insulin plays a primary role in defending the body against potential damage by using the adipose tissue, liver, and skeletal muscle as biological buffers against excess nutrient intake. This is important since all dietary nutrients are naturally inflammatory since their metabolism into other biological materials or conversion to energy can generate molecular responses that can activate increased inflammation [4]. This means that the intake of excess nutrients sets the foundation for the generation of excess inflammation. In the face of increased inflammation, the ability of insulin to orchestrate metabolism becomes compromised.”

******************** : — not my favorite reference source but it is convenient in this case—-> @MODS — if you feel these cannot be quote in this fashion please snip

under the section “Dietary sources of fatty acids, their digestion, absorption, transport in the blood and storage” 1st and 2nd paragraphs.

“A significant proportion of the fatty acids in the body are obtained from the diet, in the form of triglycerides of either animal or plant origin. The fatty acids in the fats obtained from land animals tend to be saturated, whereas the fatty acids in the triglycerides of fish and plants are often polyunsaturated and therefore present as oils.

These triglycerides, cannot be absorbed by the intestine.[25] They are broken down into mono- and di-glycerides plus free fatty acids (but no free glycerol) by pancreatic lipase, which forms a 1:1 complex with a protein called colipase (also a constituent of pancreatic juice), which is necessary for its activity. The activated complex can work only at a water-fat interface. Therefore, it is essential that fats are first emulsified by bile salts for optimal activity of these enzymes.[26] The digestion products consisting of a mixture of tri-, di- and monoglycerides and free fatty acids, which, together with the other fat soluble contents of the diet (e.g. the fat soluble vitamins and cholesterol) and bile salts form mixed micelles, in the watery duodenal contents (see diagrams on the right).[25][27] ”

Furthermore: Fatty acid are NOT from dietary intake, they are made from either carbohydrates, fats, or and proteins but rarely and whether they are used for energy or stored is based on the real time signaling which is why I have adapted to a slower eating pattern regardless of my the macro-nutrient distribution intake. Additionally, I marry up my work-out routines with a small amount protein intake before, during, and after exercise as this is the only macro that is not stored. The current problem is excess consumption or intake; i.e. too many calories; too little moving around.

I stand by my comments and assertions of your inabilities. I add that in this whole process you have been intellectually dishonest; and now everybody besides me knows why. You could have done the same internet search and linked to the same article that I did and we both could have learned something and even possibility progressed the conversation forward in a positive and collaborative way.

I had hoped that your arrogance and hubris would have taken a back seat. I see now that this is not an intellectual or analytical subject for you but an emotional subject that has transcended to a belief system with its own dogma.

Erast Van Doren
Reply to  Erast Van Doren
August 26, 2019 9:06 pm

JEHILL: Furthermore: Fatty acid are NOT from dietary intake, they are made from either carbohydrates, fats, or and proteins but rarely

My eyes hurt to read such nonsense )) Why don’t you shut up and just listen, given the chance? There are not many people in the world who understand the topic better than I do.

Fats (triacylglycerols = 3 fatty acids + glycerol) can exists in the human body in 2 forms: disassembled into fatty acids and glycerol, or assembled into tryacylglycerol (=triglyceride) again. This conversion happens again and again in human body. Why? Because fatty acids in free form are toxic to the human body, but tryacylglycerols are too big to be passed around through membranes. Fats are stored as TG, they are transported as TGs in lipoproteins, but consumed as FAs. They are also send on their last trip as FA, because in this form they are very short lived – half-time of FAs bound to albumin is just a few minutes and the concentration is very low – you typically have no more than 0.1-0.5g of FA in total in your blood. Therefore they can’t break much havoc. Until you eat too much fat…

The entire system of fat metabolism is designed in such way as to keep FA concentration as low as possible – FA are always combined back to TGs when they are not to be consumed immediately or to be passed through a membrane.

Reply to  Erast Van Doren
August 26, 2019 9:43 pm

Quote ” Why don’t you shut up and just listen, given the chance? There are not many people in the world who understand the topic better than I do.”
What a horribly narcissistic comment and I don’t believe you as I found virtually nothing about you on the internet and with what you said at the end of one of your posts I would not believe a thing you said.

Reply to  Erast Van Doren
August 26, 2019 10:57 pm


If it actually worked the way you described then no one would lose weight, or at least not fat weight. It seems like you merged Lipolysis(removed from storage due to low insulin and delivery to cells, etc) and Beta Oxidation(consumed for energy in mitochondria) in a nonfunctional way. But none of this specific biochemical machinery is the actual conversation. This certainly does not lead to extra inflammation or no more than any of the macronutrients can cause when they are in excess nor prove your hypothesis.

Excess intake is the real problem regardless of the macronutrients.

You still haven’t explained how we survived metabolically prior to agriculture.

I got to tell you just because you claim to be an expert holds no weight; it is also the “experts” that got the western world into this inflammatory condition in the first place.

John Tillman
August 24, 2019 5:16 pm

An excellent post, but there are almost certainly more ruminants in Canada and the USA today than there were in AD 1492. Not a huge amount more, probably less than double and on average less massive, but still a non-trivial difference.

Not that it matters.

August 24, 2019 5:38 pm

Regarding diets, two points, as meat comes from animals eating mostly grass, is the artificial meat made from plants chemically identical to real meat. ?

Second point, as people, millions, who live in the real Third World , are eating a largely vegetarian diet, what is their level of health like compared to the meat eaters of the first world. ?

As a final item, Hitler was a vegetarian .


Reply to  Michael
September 2, 2019 4:09 am

Awesome Michael, Impressed with your thoughts and your knowledge.

Jeff L
August 24, 2019 6:12 pm

Although late to the discussion, I just wanted to say well done Lord Monckton. This is a subject dear to my heart as well.

The beauty of nutrition science is you can experiment on yourself …. don’t believe it? Try it yourself. Wish we could do that with climate science.

What is most irritating for me as a US medical insurance payer, is that even though we can take control of our own health , we still all pay for those who don’t … who follow these ill-conceived “dietary guidelines”. A class action suit against the government to re-coup wasted health care costs, not to mentioned ruined health and lives, due to these guidelines seems appropriate.

The parallels between “consensus nutrition” and “consensus climate science” are many and profound if you dig into both. I dig into the climate science as a geologist , geophysicist & meteorologist and my wife digs into nutrition as as biologist (and has the exact same opinions as Lord Monckton) . We laugh at how many similarities there are and how the 2 are becoming intertwined. Actually , it is quite sad.

I would recommend readers also research the links between healthy brain function and animal fats … the idea that alarmists , especially vegan ones, suffer from cognitive disorders is not as far fetched as you might think. Check it out & decide for your selves.

Crispin in Waterloo
August 24, 2019 8:21 pm

“…eating a diet that’s especially high in red meat will be undermining the sustainability of the climate.”

What, pray tell, is a sustainable climate!?

Roger Knights
August 24, 2019 9:06 pm

Jordan Peterson and his daughter adoped heavy beef-eating a few years ago and observed great improvements in their weight and health.

August 25, 2019 1:37 am

Even herbivores need to avoid excessive sugar & starch consumption in order to avoid laminitis! Humans should tread carefully.(No pun intended)
Great apes fed “healthy” fruit diets have an extremely high incidence of heart disease. Changing their diets to forage has all but eliminated the problem.

B d Clark
August 25, 2019 4:17 am

Another passionate debate,I do take issue with the “establishment ” guide lines of carbohydrate based diet ,it does sound so logical,”cut out them nasty fats people”eat your veg, supplement with high protein grubs” here we now go into the world of comparisons with the global warmests,another agenda from the same people,save the planet,”eat bugs” we wont to destroy beef,dairy farming, to reduce co2 and rewild the country side. Well good luck with that,you have convinced me, to up my consumption of red meat to reduce my poor man’s carb intake,imlooking forward to my little experiment,to see if my energy and general fitness does go in the right direction,(I’ve just had a kidney removed because of cancer,it was big but low grade)

It’s no coincidence, that the “agenda” is attacking us the people on lots of fronts,and has been for decade’s, from the food we eat,to what we drive,to our choice of power generation,all have one thing in common “choice”with no consensus being taken away,hence the drive for a forced consensus in a one sided propaganda MSM political drive.

Erast Van Doren
Reply to  B d Clark
August 25, 2019 6:53 am

High fat – harmful:
Cholesterol – very harmful: Clinical Lipidology – A Companion to Braunwald’s Heart Disease
Eggs – harmful
Dairy – harmful
Meat – lean meat is OK in small amounts, but if your heart disease risk is high – better cut it out too
Fish – one pound a week provides you with omega-3 and cobalamin.
High carb – not harmful. Starches are the foundation of our civilization.

Tom Kennedy
August 25, 2019 5:21 am

In the early 1990s I was tricked by the “nutrition experts consensus” that the path to health was through a high carb -low fat diet. After about a year of following what became known as the “Entammans diet”(They stripped all the fats out of pastries and added sugar.) I was in terrible shape – couldn’t stay awake, focus and knew something bad was going on. I began following a series of low carb. diets (The Zone, Atkins, Paleo etc.) and did somewhat better.
Recently, I began following the Time Restricted Eating (TRE – Dr. Panda) method and found it really works for me. I eat reasonable amounts of food within an 8-12 hour period and then fast until the next day. I also avoid MD’s and their recommendation on Statins – diets etc.
The best summary of our current heath care industry that I’ve found comes from a Cardiologist from York England – Dr. Gupta who says

“I believe that the healthcare industry rarely ever provides healthcare. Instead it provides disease management by using expensive and potentially harmful pills to mask symptoms.”

Clyde Spencer
August 25, 2019 7:36 am

The 7-day deadline, which you imposed in your letter of complaint to Nature Communications, has passed. What is the status of the situation?

Dr Edmund Fordham
August 26, 2019 12:51 am

Please if you can detail this most instructive paragraph: “In 1977 the “Democrats” decided to issue guidelines to the people on what they should and should not eat. The National Institutes of Health invited nutritional stakeholders to a closed-doors meeting that lasted two days. Those present were told they would not be allowed to leave the room until they had put their signatures to a pre-drafted “consensus statement” recommending a carbohydrate-rich diet. One by one, they all caved in and signed it.”

In 2001-2 I worked in the US when the “Atkins Diet” (essentially the high-protein, ultra-low carb diet Lord Monckton describes) was all the rage. I could not understand why the usual suspects (NYT, WaPo etc) were so full of fury about Dr Atkins being so irresponsible, when “everybody knew” that fats were so bad for you. Ignoring (“denying?”) Atkins’ demonstrable unique success at treating American standards of obesity. I could only imagine someone was very scared about the possibility of a major class action lawsuit. Now I see why.

August 28, 2019 9:33 pm

This is priceless comedy 🙂 The “Lord” calling a professor “professor”… yes my little drookies, you have to know your punctuation to understand the seriousness of this joke.