Invasion of the lifestyle snatchers

Lately, some op-eds have been questioning whether Greta Thunberg is simply a mindless puppet.

WITH cold, hard eyes, Greta Thunberg jabs a finger forward – like Lord Kitchener in the famous “Your country needs you” wartime posters.

The Sun featured this GQ cover, and the parallel to the famous end scene of “Invasion of the Body Snatchers” immediately jumped out at me.

In the Sun article they say:

And Greta began to pressure her family to change their lifestyles.

Svante, 50, and Malena turned vegan and bought an electric car, and in 2016 Greta convinced her mother to stop flying, which impacted her singing career.

Malena went on to back the “flight-shaming” movement that started in Sweden a year later.

Even some normally over the top climate scientists are starting to doubt her.

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Patrick MJD
August 20, 2019 7:20 am

I see CO2!! Just change the word…

Reply to  Patrick MJD
August 20, 2019 8:46 am

I exhale CO2 therefore I am alive, I think I am.

Reply to  Vuk
August 20, 2019 1:24 pm

If only someone had told Descartes!
I breathe therefore I am.
Much more scientific than “I think therefore I am”.
Unlike thinking, breathing is verifiable.

Reply to  jon2009
August 20, 2019 1:47 pm

to “I see CO2”
RD would have replied, “In my dreams I can see the same things that lunatics see when wide awake”.
Neither falsifiable.

Sam Pyeatte
Reply to  Vuk
August 20, 2019 5:18 pm

Calling Greta Thunberg, the village idiot, a puppet, is giving puppets a bad name…not to mention village idiots.

Reply to  Vuk
August 21, 2019 1:49 am

So much sneering. This is exactly the treatment the Vietnam protestors received.

“Greta began to pressure her family to change their lifestyles.”

So did she pressure them or is she their puppet? Who cares when its so much fun to sneer.

Reply to  Vuk
August 21, 2019 4:06 am

Loydo this isnt sneering matey
its ridicule
richly deserved I might add;-))))

Joel Snider
Reply to  Vuk
August 21, 2019 8:14 am

Loydo is such a pure hypocrite – this is coming from a guy who needs his own special, sneering font.

Joel Snider
Reply to  Vuk
August 21, 2019 8:26 am

Also – I notice Loydo-of-the-high-ground isn’t concerned with the treatment these ‘Viet Nam’ protestors afforded our soldiers.

Reply to  Joel Snider
August 21, 2019 12:33 pm

Lyndon Johnson was the President during the Vietnam War. The Vietnam War Memorial was dedicated NOVEMBER 13, 1982, honoring 58,000 American troops who died. U.S. forces inflicted over a million enemy fatalities, essentially wiped out the Viet Cong as a fighting force during the TET Offensive debacle, yet involvement by politicians forfeited our victory. North Vietnamese colonel, Bui Tin, received the unconditional surrender of South Vietnam on April 30, 1975.

Bui Tin explained how the protests by “anti-war peace demonstrators” (the most successful propaganda program ever operated by the Soviet Union and its Eastern Bloc allies) was key to the Communist “victory”:
“Every day our leadership would listen to world news over the radio at 9 a.m. to follow the growth of the American antiwar movement …
… Visits to Hanoi by people like Jane Fonda and former Attorney General Ramsey Clark and ministers gave us confidence that we should hold on in the face of battlefield reverses …
… We were elated when Jane Fonda, wearing a red Vietnamese dress, said at a press conference that she was ashamed of American actions in the war and that she would struggle along with us.”

After the war, Bui Tin became vice chief editor of the Communist Party’s official newspaper in Vietnam, People’s Daily, but he grew disillusioned with Communist corruption and, in 1990, fled to Paris.

In an interview, Bui Tin stated:

“The roots of the Vietnam War – its all-encompassing and underlying nature – lie in a confrontation between two ideological worlds: socialism versus capitalism … totalitarianism versus democracy …

The conscience of America was part of its war-making capability, and we were turning that power in our favor. America lost because of its democracy; through dissent and protest it lost the ability to mobilize a will to win.”

Commenting on this dangerous trend is retired Major General Patrick Brady, considered the most decorated living veteran. Major General Patrick Brady wrote, June 4, 2013:

“The greatest danger … the feminization, emasculation and dismantling of our military.

The two most important elements of national survival are the media and the military …

We know the media are failing – God help us if the military does also ….
.. Let’s begin with Benghazi. It is incomprehensible that any commander, let alone the commander in chief, would go AWOL during a crisis such as Benghazi, but he was …

Unprecedented rates of suicide … Cut benefits to veterans … Quad-sexual military with all the health, readiness and moral issues that come with exalting sodomy … Sexual assault …

Women will be tasked to lead bayonet charges … Billions of defense dollars are unaccounted for … Christianity is under military attack, and Bibles have been burned to appease Muslims …

Just as the way forward for America is a return to the morality and values of the past, so too must the military return to the readiness standards and common sense of the past.”

Everything he said also applies to the war being waged against CIVILIZATION by the Green Gestapo. Don’t let the world repeat the mistake the USA did in giving away victory that is within our grasp as the CAGW Alarmism implodes before our eyes.

Reply to  Vuk
August 21, 2019 9:02 am

Joel Snider says:
I notice Loydo-of-the-high-ground isn’t concerned with the treatment these ‘Viet Nam’ protestors afforded our soldiers.

Exactly what I was thinking. I doubt Loydo has any understanding of the realities of that period. His pseudo-realities are only from his history-revised indoctrination.

Joel Snider
Reply to  Vuk
August 21, 2019 10:31 am

‘His pseudo-realities are only from his history-revised indoctrination.’

Or his parents. Or more likely, grandparents.

Reply to  Vuk
August 21, 2019 12:43 pm

Sneering on top of sneering, nice going.
Knee-jerk sneering too. Professionals

Joel Snider
Reply to  Vuk
August 21, 2019 12:58 pm

‘Sneering on top of sneering, nice going.’

Sniveling on top of sniveling. At least you’re consistent.

But please, start another fight, so you can cry when you get hit.


Reply to  jon2009
August 21, 2019 9:09 pm

“Renee Descartes was a drunken fart, ‘I drink, therefore I am.'”

— Monty Python, “The Philosopher’s Song”

Reply to  Patrick MJD
August 20, 2019 8:53 am

“I see CO2”

Reply to  Jon P Peterson
August 20, 2019 10:59 am

With my FTIR and methanizer FID.

Reply to  Patrick MJD
August 20, 2019 1:35 pm

I see CO2 when I buy dry ice. It’s weird stuff, too. Just oozes out of its container and rolls along the floor like a live thing seeking sustenance… and then… it vanishes like it was never there.


Reply to  Sara
August 20, 2019 4:33 pm

Reply to  Sara
August 21, 2019 3:21 am

I think you will find that what you are seeing is liquid water, condensed by the CO2. Water vapor is invisible. The liquid drops are not.
Clouds are similar . All you see are the water droplets.
This is probably why Greta probably thinks that what comes out of cooling towers is CO2.
The MSM journalists use this quirk to frighten us by bombarding us all with images of cooling towers at the top of their articles with the implication that the water clouds you see rising are satanic CO2 molecules.

Reply to  Alasdair
August 21, 2019 6:53 am

Oh, Alasdair, I was make a joke. There is no water or water vapor involved.

Dry ice is frozen carbon dioxide. There is NO water involved. It sublimes into white vapor and vanishes like a traf in the wind. It is used to create fog in ice skating shows. I was in several of those at my skating rink. We used the fob machine a lot.

John Tillman
Reply to  Sara
August 21, 2019 10:25 am

Alasdair is right. The fog produced by cooling the air around dry ice consists of visible condensed water droplets. The CO2 gas subkimated from the solid dry ice remains invisible to humans.

The absorption bands of carbon dioxide lie in the Near IR portion of the EM spectrum. Water vapor absorbs radiation in the Far IR, so we can’t see it either, until the molecules in the air condense into droplets, as in fog or clouds.

Cooling air with dry ice makes low fog. Tossing chunks of it into a warm swimming pool produces dramatic, violent bubbling and fog.

Reply to  Patrick MJD
August 20, 2019 10:23 pm

“I see dud people.”

John Bell
August 20, 2019 7:23 am

Wait a minute! Climate crusaders NEED to use fossil fuels every day…to get the good word out to us little folks, so that we guilty little people stop using fossil fuels, for the good of the planet. Greta is still a HYPOCRITE, but it is very fashionable to preach it and another to do it, abstinence from fossil fuels.

Patrick MJD
August 20, 2019 7:23 am

“Svante, 50, and Malena turned vegan and bought an electric car, and in 2016 Greta convinced her mother to stop flying, which impacted her singing career.”

I guess she won’t be appearing in the Eurovision Song Contest then?

Sweden; Zero points!

Mumbles McGurick
Reply to  Patrick MJD
August 20, 2019 1:45 pm

Shame, that. I really want to hear her sing her version of …

John Tillman
Reply to  Patrick MJD
August 20, 2019 3:55 pm

Personally, I don’t feel that the denizens of our planet have been thereby deprived of sublime musical experience:

Mind you, she’s orders of magnitude more listenable than would be my caterwaulings except in a narrow range of mid-register traditional cowboy songs. And even then, dubious.

I can do about this well, but without the instrumental accompaniment, or maybe not quite so well:

Leo Smith
Reply to  Patrick MJD
August 21, 2019 4:19 am

Well if we are in the way of posting music videos, I have a question for Greta

Robert W Turner
August 20, 2019 7:23 am

Definitely NPCs.

Ron Long
Reply to  Robert W Turner
August 20, 2019 9:43 am

No Pissy Carbon? No Putrid Crap? No Pussy Cats? No Public Comments? WHAT?

On another note Elton John has claimed he paid for the private jet that transported Prince Harry and family to the south of France, so the carbon emission somehow does not count. How does this work?

Reply to  Ron Long
August 20, 2019 4:34 pm

Non-playable character

Basically any character that can’t be interacted with in a video game.

michael hart
Reply to  Ron Long
August 20, 2019 4:56 pm

Ron Long, “NPC” derives from characters in computer games. An NPC is a” non playable character” or “non player character”. While an NPC may appear similar to other characters operated by real humans within a game, it is essentially a computer-generated character with an extremely limited (and usually predictable) range of actions or responses.

This is what leads to the use of the term as an epithet to mock the predictable responses of many people, particularly SJWs. For example: In an on-line argument you may express the opinion that catastrophic anthropogenic global warming is exaggerated. The NPC character will then immediately accuse you of being in the pay of “big oil”. They are incapable of being reasoned with or producing more than a limited number of responses. Thus if you then say you voted for Trump, the SJW NPC will immediately call you a racist, a misogynist and a homophobe, but not be able to articulate any reasons why or further respond to your replies beyond issuing a few standard insults.

The term NPC has quickly gained widespread usage in this context because it appears so uncannily close to reality. You probably get the picture by now. I would go on, but using the above words has probably already put this post in moderation and I don’t want to give the mods unnecessary work.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  michael hart
August 20, 2019 6:33 pm

“Ron Long, “NPC” derives from characters in computer games. ”

Actually it derives from pre-computer role-playing games like Dungeons and Dragons. There, NPC stands for ‘non-player character’, meaning controlled by the Dungeon Master.

John Tillman
August 20, 2019 7:24 am

Greta has tweeted from north of the Azores:

With Malizia II’s skipper and owner, Greta’s dad and cameraman. Don’t ask how they’re all getting themselves and the boat back to Europe.

Reply to  John Tillman
August 20, 2019 8:42 am

I think we DO need to ask that question, because the MSM won’t.

John Tillman
Reply to  climanrecon
August 20, 2019 9:06 am

Even on Twitter, people are asking.

Malizia II can be sailed solo, as during Vendee Globe circumnavigations, but more likely two crew from the Team will replace Boris and Pierre, who are flying back to Europe. Dunno how long the cameraman Nathan will stay with Svante and Greta.

So, that’s a minimum of four trans-Atlantic flights, and five if Natahn also flies back to Sweden.

Reply to  John Tillman
August 21, 2019 1:38 am

Not to worry, some billionaire with pay some carbon guilt money and fly them back on his private jet.

Reply to  John Tillman
August 20, 2019 8:56 am

They are all flying back including the present crew, the replacement crew is flying to the US to sail the boat back, with the CO2 flights footprint about 3 times that of Greta flying there and back.

August 20, 2019 7:33 am

Why is anyone taking any notice of a mentally ill teenager? #prayforhurricanes.

Reply to  chaswarnertoo
August 20, 2019 8:25 am

‘F**k you Greta’ bumper stickers appear on German cars.

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Michael H Anderson
Reply to  Wally
August 20, 2019 11:11 am

YES!!! 😀

Gerry, England
Reply to  Michael H Anderson
August 21, 2019 5:58 am

Personally I wouldn’t want to but then I am just picky about who I f…

Reply to  chaswarnertoo
August 20, 2019 8:42 am

Because #NoJudgment #NoLabels, and her patrons believe that her adventure is politically congruent (e.g. democratic leverage, corporate profits, secular incentives).

Reply to  chaswarnertoo
August 20, 2019 8:53 am

We should be taking note of that teenagers exploitive parents. It’s child abuse to do to a mentally ill child what they are doing to her. Of course, a child with an apparently tenous hold on reality is much more compliant than the average teenager. It’s horrible how she is being used.

Bryan A
Reply to  chaswarnertoo
August 20, 2019 10:11 am

Asperger’s isn’t a mental illness, It’s a form of Autism which also isn’t a mental illness but a disability. It can often manifest with childhood depression and agoraphobia which can be considered mental illnesses but Asperger”‘ itself isn’t.

TIm Groves
Reply to  Bryan A
August 21, 2019 7:04 pm

This is a fascinating topic—the classification of various degrees of departure of the human condition from an idealized “normal” state into illness, disease, disorder, disability , eccentricity, and just being oneself. It reminds me of the current climate change debate and how far from normal the weather needs to go before somebody declares it catastrophic climate change. And the answer there is “not very far” in most cases.

And so I’d like to ask, is there a 97% consensus that Asberger Syndrome is not a mental illness or a disorder or a condition requiring medical or psychological treatment? And is there general agreement on whether it should be abbreviated as “Asberger” or “Asberger’s”? And finally, is the decision on whether to consider this disability as an illness or not driven by medical logic or by identity politics?

Reply to  chaswarnertoo
August 20, 2019 1:37 pm

Well, she IS having a sort of commercial impact now, isn’t she??? (/sarc, in case no one can figure that out.)

Greg Cavanagh
Reply to  Sara
August 20, 2019 2:25 pm

She hobbled her mothers career, I wonder if she’ll hobble her own. So far Not!

John Tillman
Reply to  Greg Cavanagh
August 20, 2019 3:39 pm

I don’t know to what extent her mom was in demand beyond ferry and driving distance, however popular in Sweden.

But Greta promises to become a major profit center for family Thunberg.

Reply to  Greg Cavanagh
August 21, 2019 9:06 am

She will lose her “charm” before long. Fads tend to wither and die, so yes, she might just hobble her own career, if you want to call it that. Give it time.

There’s tropical storm under development in the Atlantic now, and south of that, there appears to be another in a seminal stage. Let’s hope for a delay of sailboats crossing the Atlantic.

Oh, wait – that was so MEAN of me, wasn’t it? Well, safe passage for trans-oceanic passengers is always a good thought form, isn’t it?

John Tillman
Reply to  Sara
August 21, 2019 9:59 am

Storm Chantal has formed, currently at about 41 N and 53 W.

Reply to  chaswarnertoo
August 21, 2019 2:30 am

“First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.”

Bill Toland
Reply to  Loydo
August 21, 2019 3:43 am

Loydo, I didn’t realise that you were a climate sceptic.

Joel Snider
Reply to  Loydo
August 21, 2019 9:25 am

You gotta get past that ‘fight’ part, don’t you, Loydo?

And here I thought you metrosexual types were ‘uncomfortable’ with ‘winning’.

August 20, 2019 7:35 am

Doubtlessly, the Swedish hotel and restaurant industry finds it more shameful to fly out of Sweden, than into Sweden.

August 20, 2019 7:35 am

love it….now they are trying to spin the spin

August 20, 2019 7:38 am

Greta’s a climate zombie. And all the fawning over her has turned her into a bully, plain and simple. She has no other tools at her disposal.

M __ S__
August 20, 2019 7:38 am

The National workers socialist party exploited kids too

Reply to  M __ S__
August 20, 2019 9:57 am

So did Australian prime minister Kevin Rudd at the Copenhagen climate shindig in 2009 with his purported letter from “Little Gracie” aged six.

(come to think of it, could Greta actually be Little Gracie. The timeline works)?

James Clarke
August 20, 2019 7:43 am

I am not afraid of climate change, man-made or otherwise. We have been dealing with that for as long as we have been around. Today, we are more equipped than ever to adapt to those slow changes. But Greta on the front GQ magazine makes my skin crawl in terror!

Joel Snider
Reply to  James Clarke
August 20, 2019 10:35 am

And just think – that’s after being photo-shopped.

steve case
Reply to  James Clarke
August 20, 2019 11:46 am

James Clarke
. . .
Greta on the front GQ magazine makes my skin crawl in terror!

There is no mob quite so terrifying as a self-righteous mob.

August 20, 2019 7:48 am

Child warrior.

August 20, 2019 7:50 am

I thought of the mind-controlling children in “Village of the Damned.”

Reply to  Gary
August 20, 2019 8:56 am

She doesn’t have the glowing eyes and they were black and white! (Just watched that again last Saturday.)

Reply to  Gary
August 20, 2019 1:41 pm

How about “Children of the Corn”?

Reply to  Gary
August 20, 2019 2:09 pm

Twilight Zone.

Reply to  Gary
August 21, 2019 8:34 am

In “Village of the Damned” the children demonstrate that they have the power to make aircraft crash out of the sky and cars to drive into walls. Spookily prescient.

August 20, 2019 7:50 am

Got a bit of an Omen vibe to the picture too.

Reply to  Myron
August 20, 2019 8:23 am

Children of the Corn

John Tillman
Reply to  Myron
August 20, 2019 8:33 am

And a touch of Chucky:

Jon-Anders Grannes
Reply to  John Tillman
August 20, 2019 10:23 am

They had children crusades about 1000 years ago. So why not again now?

John Tillman
Reply to  Jon-Anders Grannes
August 20, 2019 11:51 am

Both the French and German Children’s Crusades of AD 1212 ended badly.

Pierre Casiraghi’s dad Stefano was killed at age 30 in a speedboat accident, when Pierre was three. His mom Caroline, now Princess of Hanover, might not approve of the 31 year-old’s racing even sailboats. When Caroline was 25, her mom, actress-princess Grace Kelly, 52, was fatally injured in a traffic collision, apparently caused by a brain hemorrhage. The crash led to another hemorrhage in the hospital and her death.

Reply to  John Tillman
August 20, 2019 12:49 pm

Intriguing, I’d imagine the Throne of Hanover has been defunct since the Prussians expunged it sometime before the FrancoPrussian war. To still be claiming the title seems to indicate a high degree of Horse excrement. But hey, they do say that Birds of a Feather flock together 🙂

John Tillman
Reply to  John Tillman
August 20, 2019 3:18 pm

Yes, the title King of Hanover went belly up in 1866, but the Second Reich recognized Duke of Brunswick, IIRC. But that title too has been defunct since 1919 under the Weimar Republic.

However Monaco and to some extent Britain still recognize Caroline’s husband’s noble status. The Kingdom of Hanover got its own monarch when Victoria ascended the throne of the UK, since its Salic Law didn’t allow a queen. Caroline’s husband is in the male line of descent from the only one of Vicky’s many uncles who managed to produce a legitimate son.

Before the 1815 Congress of Vienna, Hanover had an elector rather than a king.

John Tillman
Reply to  John Tillman
August 20, 2019 3:23 pm

PS: If Britain had the Salic Law, Caroline’s husband would be King of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland.

John Tillman
Reply to  John Tillman
August 20, 2019 3:27 pm

PS: However George I himself became king only through his recently deceased, 83 year-old mom Sophia, a Protestant granddaughter of James I of England and VI of Scotland.

Jon-Anders Grannes
Reply to  John Tillman
August 20, 2019 10:39 am

Maybee we should nominate her for an Oscar?

Mike Ellwood
Reply to  Jon-Anders Grannes
August 21, 2019 1:21 pm

Maybe. But I assume it’s an odds-on certainty that she’ll get a Nobel Prize for something or other. I suppose it can’t hurt that Sweden is the home of the Nobel Prize.

John Tillman
Reply to  Mike Ellwood
August 23, 2019 8:33 am

Greta won’t even need to have nearly murdered, as was the youngest co-Laureate:

Age 17 (1)
The Nobel Peace Prize 2014
Malala Yousafzai
“for their struggle against the suppression of children and young people and for the right of all children to education”

Nicholas McGinley
Reply to  Myron
August 20, 2019 8:38 am

And Children of the Damned.

Ed Zuiderwijk
August 20, 2019 7:53 am

That finger reminded me of the Facebook crap put out by ISIS when they were lecturing and threatening the rest of the world with their perverted views of the world.

James Beaver
August 20, 2019 7:55 am

Greta Thunberg is like a cross between Pippi Longstockings and “Children of the Corn”.

(disclosure: plagiarized from another commentator)

August 20, 2019 7:55 am

With little moustache she would look like… Oh man she´s a mean looking b***h. Look out world!

August 20, 2019 8:04 am

Greta Tintin Eleonora Ernman Thunberg was born in Swedish capital Stockholm in January 2003 to Svante Thunberg, an actor, and his opera star wife Malena Ernman.

She is distantly related to Svante Arrhenius, the first scientist to predict that carbon emissions would lead to warming.

Malena was Sweden’s 2009 Eurovision hopeful, belting out her song La Voix. Blonde, glamorous and already a star in her home-land, Malena, 48, was seeking to make an international break-through like compatriots ABBA and the five other Swedish acts to have won the contest.

Yet she trailed a disappointing 21st out of 25, with 33 points.

Greta first learned about climate change aged eight and says she was shocked that adults did not appear to be taking it seriously.

It was one factor that would lead to a deep depression when aged 11, which saw her stop eating and going to school, and then stop speaking to everyone bar her family and one teacher.


Her loser artsy-fartsy parents named her Tintin? And they’re blaming her mental greentardation on climate change?

Bryan A
Reply to  David Middleton
August 20, 2019 10:07 am

And her Incredulity of perceived inaction by adults, Childhood Depression, Seeing things that aren’t there to be seen (CO2), and missing school are also symptoms of Asperger’s Syndrome as well.
My daughter has also been affected by Asperger’s with many similar symptoms.

Reply to  David Middleton
August 20, 2019 1:19 pm

…and the poster child for global warming…is a 16yo….dressing and pretending to be a 10yo


John Tillman
Reply to  David Middleton
August 20, 2019 3:09 pm

“Distant” relative of Arrhenius is an understatement. Lots of Swedes are closer, despite her dad’s given name:

Just more hagiography for St. Greta.

And of course, Arrhenius was wrong about climate sensitivity.

August 20, 2019 8:09 am

Doomsday Adams…

August 20, 2019 8:16 am

Hmmm, the NEW “Sieg Heil” salute?? And you MUST use the Left hand!

August 20, 2019 8:19 am

Curiouser and curiouser. Look at this morning’s track. It looks like they made straight for Lagens in the Azores then made a course change to get back on course for NY. I have not seen any updates about Greta’s whereabouts, have you?,-33.157,5

John Tillman
Reply to  Yooper
August 20, 2019 9:44 am

She recently tweeted from north of the Azores. If they actually put in at Lagens on Flores, it would strike me as odd. There is a lighthouse there, but it’s on the SE side of the island. If they needed something, why not land at Ponta Delgada at the northern tip?

John Tillman
Reply to  John Tillman
August 20, 2019 10:12 am

Lajes does boast a larger commercial seaport.

Maybe the crew just wanted to bathe and eat real food, delivered to the island by fossil fuel-powered ships.

Stewart Pid
Reply to  Yooper
August 20, 2019 10:36 am

Yooper I think they are tacking to make the best headway with the winds …. they did a similar maneuver in the past days.

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  Yooper
August 20, 2019 10:48 am

Is there a deep-water sailor who can explain their current track? They seem headed for Nova Scotia, or even further north.

John Tillman
Reply to  D. J. Hawkins
August 20, 2019 11:24 am

They have favorable winds on that heading, but they’ll run out of them, then need to tack.

John Tillman
Reply to  John Tillman
August 21, 2019 8:42 am

They have now run into headwinds and slowed to ten knots. They averaged overr 20 in the past 24 hours, when they had tail winds.

Reply to  John Tillman
August 21, 2019 1:14 pm
John Tillman
Reply to  John Tillman
August 24, 2019 4:55 pm

Malizia is making only 4.4 kt at the moment.

Reply to  D. J. Hawkins
August 20, 2019 11:38 am

Head downwind, not into the wind. Look for wind but not too much. Avoid big waves and storms.
Yooper’s link shows wind. Click on the Waves button too. That link also does wind predictions. They have done well so far, but there is a big front coming. You can try to predict what they will do based on the Windy information. And do they really care where they end up, as long as there is a train for Greta?

John Tillman
Reply to  Toto
August 20, 2019 1:33 pm

True. Any landfall on the North American mainland would work.

If there were time, she and her dad could even bicycle the rest of the way, racking up virtue signalling points.

Pierre T. could greet Pierre C.’s boat in Nova Scotia.

John Tillman
Reply to  John Tillman
August 24, 2019 11:36 am

OTOH, off Nova Scotia, the generally SSE winds become more favorable for a run down to NYC.

John Tillman
Reply to  John Tillman
August 24, 2019 11:46 am

Also still a chance they might encounter another cyclone:

Odds are good that within five days the low off FL will organize into a storm and track NE along the Atlantic seaboard. Malizia might well reach NYC before the storm gets there however.

Reply to  Yooper
August 21, 2019 3:35 am

Tropical Storm Chantal is forming in the Atlantic. That may slow them down a bit.

Hocus Locus
August 20, 2019 8:28 am

With Greta hogging the press, please let me hijack the thread for a moment to bring your attention the on going voyage of Jean Socrates, who just celebrated her 77th birthday alone at sea (except for her radio friends) of the S/V Nereida… she is now on the final run in the North Pacific to become the oldest woman to sail solo ​​nonstop​ ​unassisted around the world.

Captain Socrates’ voyage represents a vision of the practical kind of ‘sustainability’ that needs no empty jargon and false promises to promote it. Propelled by sail alone and not once making landfall or taking in supplies since October 2018… her voyage has also showcased the modern technology that has made such a thing possible. By no means frail herself… nevertheless she relies on her seaworthy hull, wind turbine, a small diesel generator and batteries, winches, a steering autopilot with GPS and weather-fax to plot her way. And manages to keep going and make constant repairs with gumption and style. Proof that our species is nowhere near reaching its ultimate boundaries of accomplishment, so long as we do not turn away from industrial progress or ruin our civilization with childish choices.

Sailing Log
Position Reports
QRZ Page

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Hocus Locus
August 20, 2019 4:05 pm

She reminds me of Sir Francis Chicester. I read a book he wrote about solo sailing, when I was young, and was fascinated with the idea.

August 20, 2019 8:31 am

That little girl is a tribute to indoctrination. In some ways what was done to her is a form of child abuse. She is a sad poignant reminder what lengths fanatics will go to in service to their cause.

August 20, 2019 8:45 am

I can’t fault Greta and her parents milking their 15 minutes of fame for all the money they can get, as well as pushing to stretch the 15 minutes out as long as they can.

I just wish her 15 minutes of fame wasn’t so annoying.

When I was young, I was swayed by a few of the doomsday prophecies of the time. By my 30s, I was no longer buying what any doomsayers were selling. None of the prophecies of my younger years came true or were even remotely conceivable anymore. They were no longer even being mentioned. Some of us grow up and catch on to the pattern.

I’d be curious if in 14 years, when we’re 2 years past the ‘Earth will end’, Greta will hold fast to “The Earth will end any day now, just you wait and see.” She’ll be 30 then. My guess is that Greta won’t let go. She’s invested too much emotional capital into her worldview to just chuck it all. I’d be pleased to be wrong. We’ll just have to wait and see.

Jim Whelan
Reply to  H.R.
August 20, 2019 10:44 am

It’s annoying because it’s gone way beyond the alloted 15 minutes.

Reply to  H.R.
August 21, 2019 4:47 am

well gore ehrlich and the rest didnt give up or go away
they just changed the tune a tad and kept right on with the same rubbish claims
old Mortien flyspray ad in Aus
“when youre on a good thing…stick to it”
and they sure have!!

August 20, 2019 8:46 am

I think some are afraid to point the finger at the sponsors/snatchers, all billionaires.
Among “Climate Emergency Fund,” CEF, are to be found Rory Kennedy, the daughter of Robert Kennedy, and Aileen Getty, daughter of the late John Paul Getty, along with the “philanthropist” Trevor Neilson, whose career has included various forms of collaboration with Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, George Soros and Ted Turner.

They want to snatch our standard of living as their priviliged financial system careens to either a horrible crash or a new paradigm. Abusing kids for such purposes is nothing new for such an “elite”.

Michael H Anderson
Reply to  bonbon
August 20, 2019 12:09 pm

Having long since understood that none of this has anything to do with“climate science,” the only remaining question, the real elephant in the room is: what exactly in hell are these people trying to accomplish? I’m 50/50 divided; is it the Club of Rome/Maurice Strong’s bluntly stated goal of literally dismantling Western society, or just another scheme to make the puppet masters richer, just writ larger than anything attempted before? It reminds me in every way that matters of creatures like David Icke – does he actually believe the insane crap coming out of his mouth, or is it just about the money?

I only hope I live to find out, and to witness the shock and shame of the millions who fell for it and promoted it

Reply to  Michael H Anderson
August 20, 2019 3:38 pm

To this old greybeard granddad, it’s all about the power. From that, the money will flow.

John Tillman
Reply to  bonbon
August 21, 2019 9:29 am

Aileen Getty is sister to the late kidnapping victim J. P. Getty III.

The Getty fortune comes from oil wells.

August 20, 2019 8:51 am

And everybody though it was just a movie – after all how could souls or mind be stolen? Well they have been. And now they are coming for our very physical existance. See the El Paso “manifesto”.

Great movie though!

Bruce Cobb
August 20, 2019 8:53 am

“I don’t easily fall for lies. I can see through things.”
Heh. Delusion much?

August 20, 2019 8:55 am

I see the next Stephen King novel: “Greta”, where a sinister, possessed young woman merely twitches her nose and entire oil companies go out of business.

August 20, 2019 9:03 am

I think Greta is our strongest ally. When people realize how much they will have to give up to “save the planet” they are likely to start asking the questions the mainstream media fails to ask.

August 20, 2019 9:12 am

A couple quick thoughts:
1. Thanx to all for the support of popcorn farmers everywhere. 🙂
2. I wish no harm towards “Greta”. Her handlers however, should be jailed for child abuse.

Political science masquerading as proper science isn’t going to work for the cult of CAGW. 🙁

August 20, 2019 9:22 am

If mom and dad traded in a perfectly good petrol burning car for their long-tail pipe car then they committed one of the worst of the worst sins; virtue signalling that consumes mass amounts of carbon.

Curious George
August 20, 2019 9:22 am

Dear Greta knows nothing, and she increases her lead every Friday. I suspect that leading U.S. socialists are secretly in love with her – we want to be like Sweden!

Joel Snider
August 20, 2019 9:25 am

And just to string together the appropriate theme, ‘Invasion of the Body Snatchers’ was an allegory about the ‘red-threat’.

Depressingly foresighted.

Bruce Cobb
August 20, 2019 9:43 am

She’s becoming more popular than the Beatles, who, as we know, were more popular than Jesus.

Reply to  Bruce Cobb
August 20, 2019 1:25 pm

Not so, not so. Not many new born in London are named Greta, but the most popular name for the boys is Mohamed.
“Muhammad and Olivia are the most popular baby names in London according to the Office for National Statistics.

Bryan A
August 20, 2019 9:57 am

Greta needs to be reminded of the finger pointing adage.
When you point a finger at someone, 4 others are pointing back at you.
If she truly wanted to make the point, she should be pointing at herself indicating “Look at how I am changing the way I live to make a difference” rather than being accusatory in nature.
Living your life as an example to others goes a lot farther than hypocrisy and blame

Reply to  Bryan A
August 20, 2019 11:25 am

In some cultures, pointing is considered a real threat – those nations where authoritarian governments pointed out the next… I pointed at a woman from Viet Nam once, and one could hear and see the combination of hatred, and abject fear through her screams. Never again.

J Mac
August 20, 2019 9:58 am

“GT – Go Home!”

Tom in Florida
August 20, 2019 10:38 am

Just another way to give someone the finger.

Michael Ozanne
August 20, 2019 10:52 am

Visiting a local Dodgson themed amusement park with my grandchildren I observed an automata group of the Mad Hatters Teaparty and the words “is that you Greta” sprang unbidden into my mind…

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August 20, 2019 10:58 am

The finger pointing and cross dressing resembles Epstein’s picture of Bill Clinton.

John Tillman
Reply to  Taphonomic
August 20, 2019 1:42 pm

Maybe she’s channeling 15th-century cross-dressing, teenaged, schizophrenic Saint Joan.

Reply to  John Tillman
August 20, 2019 4:07 pm

In polyester under wear.

August 20, 2019 11:08 am

More fairy tales from the left.

August 20, 2019 11:15 am

Getting between 3′ and 5′ waves. Trip ought to be getting fun by now. How much CO2 in barf?

J Mac
Reply to  fxk
August 20, 2019 2:12 pm

I think that is why their course turned more northerly… to run with the wind/waves and reduce the cross wave pounding.

August 20, 2019 11:27 am

Just wait. Sir Greta. Greta the Great. Nobel Peace Prize winner Greta.

The Nobel is almost a given. It matches perfectly the long list of previous recipients. They are all based on hope and symbolism rather than action and deeds. Take Obama. Take Yasser Arafat. Even Malala; her fame was being shot. I suppose the list of people who have actually done something to ensure peace is rather short.

“shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses”

John Tillman
Reply to  Toto
August 20, 2019 1:57 pm

Dame Greta.

Michael H Anderson
August 20, 2019 11:30 am

I can hear you all right, Greta, and my answer remains the same: shut up, kid.

steve case
August 20, 2019 11:51 am

Abigail Williams was one of initial accusers in the Salem witch trials, which led to the arrest and imprisonment of more than 150 innocent people suspected of witchcraft.

August 20, 2019 12:26 pm

There will be a pod in every trunk and basement for the infidel, unwashed, unconverted ones.

Phil Salmon
August 20, 2019 1:05 pm

Poor Greta – she’s become a talisman of the rising ecofascist empire

They need everyone they can get especially these:

August 20, 2019 1:16 pm

OT. Himalayan mountains in past centuries were warmer !
We often here that the Himalayas glaciers melting is unprecedented.
However high in Himalayas at altitude at over 5,000 meters above sea level Roopkund Lake was a frozen grave scattered skeletal remains of several hundred individuals of unknown origin.
Ice melting revealed even skeletal remains floating in the water and lying around the lake’s edges. One group of skeletons is from the 7th–10th centuries AD.
It is hard to imagine that without a much warmer climate, at the time when Vikings were invading England that people would be climbing high up in Himalayas and finding their death in a ‘not so frozen’ lake.

August 20, 2019 1:21 pm

There will also be a recession in Europe by the time she gets back.

August 20, 2019 1:42 pm

Branding has taken over.

John Tillman
August 20, 2019 1:45 pm

Wonder if the three others are chowing down on vegan vittles, in solidarity with the Thunbergs.

August 20, 2019 1:49 pm

Back when Thailand was known as “Siam,” a little-known Buddhist temple named “Oowa Tagoo” Temple was constructed. Monks from the temple claim that even to this day, if confused people would lay prostate before the temple doors and chant the original name of the temple, they would receive a subliminal message describing their own unique problem. Perhaps Greta or anyone who follows her leadership could benefit from a trip to the temple to receive a revelation.

Here is the full chant in case she needs to memorize it. It must be repeated faster and faster until the subliminal message is clear.

“Oowa Tagoo” Siam, “Oowa Tagoo” Siam, “Oowa Tagoo” Siam, “Oowa Tagoo” Siam, “Oowa Tagoo” Siam, ….…faster…

Phil Salmon
Reply to  TEWS_Pilot
August 22, 2019 12:38 am

In Greta’s case, the goose has laid a golden egg.

Phil Salmon
August 20, 2019 2:17 pm

Greta Thunberg was recently overheard arranging a berth for herself on a ship heading to Antarctica, on a “great berg hunt”, it was claimed. All her belongings she packed in a single rucksack – she called it her “green truth bag”. At the media send-off she trotted out robotically “the urgent brag” about impending climate disaster and coercing climate obedience from all. Some were heard muttering the term “green brat thug”, a none too complimentary epithet for the sweet climate crusader. On and on she moralised about saving the world – more than one had clearly heard it all too many times. Let “the bugger rant”, one was heard muttering.

A cousin of hers, Gareth Nutberg, was sailing with her, apparently, along with his toddler half-sisters, Grunt Hateberg and Ruth Grebegnat. Once embarked and on the open sea, certain universals of sea faring soon manifested themselves on the ship’s aft deck as alcoholic beverages appeared as if by magic and the “beer truth gang” sang loudly in out-of-tune Swedish late into the night. Shouting over this inebriated cacophony, the ship’s cook Hatter Eggburn together with the medical orderly, Reg Bungthreat, tried to give a speech about good eating and digestive health on board ship, but no-one paid much attention.

John Tillman
Reply to  Phil Salmon
August 20, 2019 2:57 pm

How long before there’s an animated teen girl eco-adventure flick starring Greta Toonberg?

Reply to  John Tillman
August 20, 2019 3:37 pm

…role to be played by David Hogg after his “peckerectomy” and hormone treatments…spank me for being rude.

John Tillman
Reply to  TEWS_Pilot
August 20, 2019 3:44 pm

I’m not so sure that the young person in question would need such surgical correction.

The young Hogg person could voice the animation as is.

August 20, 2019 2:23 pm

at least she has never tended bar

August 20, 2019 2:39 pm

What about considering this from a different angle.
From the angle, that at this very moment Greta happens to have become the most toxic asset in the hands of
the very Climateriat High Inquisition.

Where, which ever way it resolves next, does not seem pleasant or helpful to the Climateriat Cabal as a whole. Probably it could result to be quite painful and even possibly divisive at the end.
Let’s not do their dirty job for them.
Maybe going “nasty”, and cheering for Greta, could be more fun… 🙂

In the end Greta is just a young girl, not her fault, thus far.
And at least, she is trying, lately, to get a first hand experience with tough real life there.

Just saying

August 20, 2019 2:52 pm

Sorry, Greta, CO2 is well mixed with air as far as the stratosphere. See, esp. Fig 2.

The Orbiting Carbon Observatory measures the density of columns of ordinary air, not CO2.

Wiliam Haas
August 20, 2019 3:01 pm

If people feel that the use of fossil fuels is bad then they should stop making use of all goods and services that involve the use of fossil fuels but the ones you see in photos are not doing that. At the very least, they are wearing clothes and eating food that were moved by fossil fuel burning trucks.

August 20, 2019 3:21 pm

Why does anyone pay attention to her? I have a 9-year-old daughter who thinks she ought to be able to tell the rest of us what we should do, too, because she thinks she is smarter and wiser than the rest of us. I give her the same amount of attention when she gets bossy as I give this spoiled little girl. Her parents should be ashamed of themselves.

August 20, 2019 3:54 pm

Can you imaging being stuck on a small boat in the middle of the ocean with a pretentious little girl like that, talking about sinning when you start a car? Shark baiting!

Reply to  WXcycles
August 21, 2019 11:29 am

I read it’s a 60 foot boat. Not small. Considering the resources employed building the vessel, and the fact it is not likely a revenue producer, one has to wonder if the carbon footprint of an airline seat would actually be less. And I’m not counting the crew who are flying over to take the boat back. That in itself screams hypocrisy. Why am I not surprised

August 20, 2019 5:40 pm

“I see stupid people all around and they don’t know they’re stupid.”

Another possible “Sixth Sense” quote.

August 20, 2019 5:41 pm

Anthony, have you read these comments. Many are just sick.
(#prayforhurricanes etc}

Most are just not what should be expected of a site like this. Facebook gets hauled over the coals for allowing milder HATRED than appears in your blogs GRETA posts.

If she had flown to US there would have been just as much nastiness.
She chose something not many would have, just because of her ideals.

Reply to  ghalfrunt
August 21, 2019 1:40 am

It’s not hatred, it’s ridicule.

Reply to  Ve2
August 21, 2019 3:18 am

No its fear. The fear of the emasculated when faced with a strong, modern female. They might as well be the last of their kind staring into the face of an alien Donald Sutherland. So ironic.

Reply to  Loydo
August 21, 2019 4:58 am

roflmao!! strong modern female?
my older strong womens ass she is
shes a tool
and iI mean that in the Aussie meaning of the word
a useless unit.

Joel Snider
Reply to  Loydo
August 21, 2019 8:09 am

Loydo is projecting his again. So pathetic.

John Tillman
Reply to  Loydo
August 21, 2019 9:55 am

Her sex has nothing to do with it. We’d just as dismissive if she were a boy saying and doing the same crazy things.

Look at the reactions here to the self-agrandizing Hogg person, who is allegedly a biological boy.

Joel Snider
Reply to  John Tillman
August 21, 2019 12:11 pm

Of course it’s not her sex – it’s her behavior. But look how Loydo tries to spin it – right out of the manual.

August 20, 2019 7:04 pm
August 21, 2019 3:11 am


August 21, 2019 2:31 pm

“I fart methane in your general direction.”

Nicholas McGinley
August 22, 2019 10:55 pm

In other Greta news, a tropical storm has suddenly popped up and is right near the location of the sailboat she is riding on.
It appears that they are currently getting favorable winds out of it though.
As much as I dislike her message and mostly everything else about her movement, I would not like to see anything terrible happen…that is just wrong, IMO.
This site tracks her progress and location, and also shows the wind field:

It appears the low is stationary at the present time and is expected to stay about where it is for several days.
But another low appears to be forming off the SE coast of Florida, and the early model runs show an uncertain track in coming days, but most seem to indicate it will not be heading into her path anytime soon.
Still, this shows the folly of this method of travel in 2019.
She could have got on a plane, and had zero net impact, as I have it on good authority that those planes are flying that route whether or not Greta is buying a ticket.
People die on the time on ships at sea during this time of year and during hurricane season in general.
Just a few years ago a large ship was lost with all hands off the coast of the US in one.

And before that:

John Tillman
August 23, 2019 7:37 am

Yup. By skirting Chantal’s northern edge, they enjoyed favorable winds, but now have run into cross winds and head winds again. The seas must have been rough for them, but they may dodge the second storm which could form in their path.

They could always ride following winds north to Newfoundland, then let the three adventurers travel by horse or bamboo and natural rubber bike to NYC. The horse’s tack would however present a problem, since leather comes from methane-producing animals and nylon is the devilish spawn of the evil C-molecule.

August 23, 2019 1:19 pm

Actually, this reminds me less of the (shadow of the original) “Invasion of the Body Snatchers” and more of the children in the original “Children of the Damned.” The expressionless face, aura of robotic authoritarianism, emotionally flat affect and general childlessness of her image should elicit a feeling that most would express as “creepy.”

GQ and most of the pop culture would, of course, disagree.

Svend Ferdinandsen
August 23, 2019 1:33 pm

Coud Greta look like the young Lisbeth Salander?
There are some similarities.

August 26, 2019 9:23 am

Maybe. But I think it’s an odds-on certainty that she’ll get a Nobel Prize for something or other. I suppose it can’t hurt that Sweden is the home of the Nobel Prize.

Baby Better Life

John Tillman
August 28, 2019 9:31 am

Greta and company are about to land in NYC. Malizia is stopped, apparently awaiting a tug.

Let the media fawning fest begin!

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