Geoengineering vs. volcanic activity for a cooler climate

[More crazy talk from Carnegie Institute’s Ken Caldiera… Anthony]

Washington, DC– Major volcanic eruptions spew ash particles into the atmosphere, which reflect some of the Sun’s radiation back into space and cool the planet. But could this effect be intentionally recreated to fight climate change? A new paper in Geophysical Research Letters investigates.

Solar geoengineering is a theoretical approach to curbing the effects of climate change by seeding the atmosphere with a regularly replenished layer of intentionally released aerosol particles. Proponents sometimes describe it as being like a “human-made” volcano.

“Nobody likes the idea of intentionally tinkering with our climate system at global scale,” said Carnegie’s Ken Caldeira. “Even if we hope these approaches won’t ever have to be used, it is really important that we understand them because someday they might be needed to help alleviate suffering.”

He, along with Carnegie’s Lei Duan (a former student from Zhejiang University), Long Cao of Zhejiang University, and Govindasamy Bala of the Indian Institute of Science, set out to compare the effects on the climate of a volcanic eruption and of solar geoengineering. They used sophisticated models to investigate the impact of a single volcano-like event, which releases particulates that linger in the atmosphere for just a few years, and of a long-term geoengineering deployment, which requires maintaining an aerosol layer in the atmosphere.

They found that regardless of how it got there, when the particulate material is injected into the atmosphere, there is a rapid decrease in surface temperature, with the land cooling faster than the ocean.

However, the volcanic eruption created a greater temperature difference between the land and sea than did the geoengineering simulation. This resulted in different precipitation patterns between the two scenarios. In both situations, precipitation decreases over land–meaning less available water for many people living there–but the decrease was more significant in the aftermath of a volcanic eruption than it was in the geoengineering case.

“When a volcano goes off, the land cools substantially quicker than the ocean. This disrupts rainfall patterns in ways that you wouldn’t expect to happen with a sustained deployment of a geoengineering system,” said lead author Duan.

Overall, the authors say that their results demonstrate that volcanic eruptions are imperfect analogs for geoengineering and that scientists should be cautious about extrapolating too much from them.

“While it’s important to evaluate geoengineering proposals from an informed position, the best way to reduce climate risk is to reduce emissions,” Caldeira concluded.

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Climate Response to Pulse Versus Sustained Stratospheric Aerosol Forcing

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2019GL083701 (open access)

Abstract

Solar geoengineering has been suggested as a potential means to counteract anthropogenic warming. Major volcanic eruptions have been used as natural analogues to large‐scale deployments of stratospheric aerosol geoengineering, yet difference in climate responses to these forcings remains unclear. Using the National Center for Atmospheric Research Community Earth System Model, we compare climate responses to two highly idealized stratospheric aerosol forcings that have different durations: a short‐term pulse representative of volcanic eruptions and a long‐term sustained forcing representative of geoengineering. For the same amount of global mean cooling, decreases in land temperature, precipitation, and runoff in the pulse case are much larger than that in the sustained case. The spatial pattern changes differ substantially between these two cases. Thus, direct extrapolations from volcanic eruption observations provide limited insight into impacts of potential stratospheric aerosol geoengineering. However, simulations of volcanic eruptions can be useful to test process representations in models that are used to simulate geoengineering deployments.

Plain Language Summary

Major volcanic eruptions are considered as natural analogues for stratospheric sulfate aerosol geoengineering that aims to cool the climate by increasing the burden of stratospheric sulfate aerosols. Volcanic eruptions produce a layer of sulfate aerosols that stays in the stratosphere for a couple of years, whereas geoengineering efforts would need to sustain the aerosol layer persistently to counteract CO2‐induced warming. Here we use a climate model to compare climate changes in response to a volcano‐like pulse aerosol forcing and a geoengineering‐like sustained aerosol forcing. When producing similar amount of global mean cooling, the pulse aerosol forcing results in a much larger reduction in land temperature and land minus ocean temperature when compared to that induced by a sustained aerosol forcing. Also, both land precipitation and runoff decrease more in response to the pulse aerosol forcing. Spatial patterns of temperature and the hydrological cycle change also differ substantially between these two types of forcings. These differences in the climate response between the pulse forcing and sustained forcing clearly show that caution should be taken when using climate consequences of volcanic eruptions to directly infer climate responses to stratospheric aerosol geoengineering.


Added, a graphic from Willis Eschenbach which illustrates the issue:

And the data:

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mortimer zilch
August 7, 2019 3:46 am

All to support “the Global Dimming Pronect” funded by Bill Gates – which is actually a population reduction program since food growth will be greatly reduced. Rotten to the core as most commentors clearly see.

Bruce Cobb
August 7, 2019 4:08 am

The Cult of Calamitous Carbon Catastrophe trot out these emergency “solutions” to “climate change” more to frighten than in any seriousness or sincerity. In other words, “if you really hate this idea, then maybe now you will get serious about getting off fossil fuels”. It’s like kids fighting in the backseat of the car and the parent saying “don’t make me come back there”. It’s a ploy.

Tom Johnson
August 7, 2019 4:16 am

the authors say that their results demonstrate that volcanic eruptions are imperfect analogs for geoengineering and that scientists should be cautious about extrapolating too much from them.

It’s not the volcanos that are “imperfect”, it’s the models. This article offers concrete proof that the GCMs are imperfect.

August 7, 2019 4:51 am

England became wetter following the large volcanic eruptions of 1815, 1902, and 1991, and drier following the 1912, 1963, and 1982 large eruptions. There may be a regular El Nino response to large tropical eruptions, but in the mid to high-mid latitudes it looks like something else is dominating rainfall.

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadukp/data/monthly/HadEWP_monthly_qc.txt

cedarhill
August 7, 2019 5:06 am

Finally a simple solution to global warming that even “skeptics” can love — On the same computer, run a global warming simulation at the same time as a geoengineering/volcanic simulation of global cooling. The right combination of programs with the right constants input will reduce the global simulated temperature rise to zero. Then we can all rest in the peace and quiet free from the din of warming psychos and “activitists”.

yirgach
August 7, 2019 5:27 am

This howler from the “Can GCM’s Become More Stupid” Dept:

One of the new models, the second version of the Community Earth System Model (CESM2) from the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR), saw a 35% increase in its equilibrium climate sensitivity (ECS), the rise in global temperature one might expect as the atmosphere adjusts to an instantaneous doubling of atmospheric carbon dioxide. Instead of the model’s previous ECS of 4°C (7.2°F), the CESM2 now shows an ECS of 5.3°C (9.5°F).

https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/New-Models-Point-More-Global-Warming-We-Expected

The insanity intensifies…

HD Hoese
Reply to  yirgach
August 7, 2019 8:06 am

Last line of the short abstract, has to do with sensitivity concerning aerosols and clouds. “CESM2 simulations compare very well to observations of present climate. It is critical to understand whether the high ECS, outside the best estimate range of 1.5–4.5 K, is plausible.” My experience (blank out the subject) in reading papers (a form of masochism) published nowadays is that well into the paper they admit to more problems than they do in the abstract. Paywalled
https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/2019GL083978

yirgach
Reply to  HD Hoese
August 7, 2019 11:00 am

Thank you for that information.
It seems to easy to hide behind half-as*d journalism to promote falsehoods.
Unfortunately it appears that trend is accelerating.

Ragnaar
August 7, 2019 6:25 am

Let’s see if I understand. Not afraid of CO2, but afraid of attempts or expirements like this. We need a water squirting climate navy to put reflective water vapor into the atmosphere. Lomborg liked this idea. Let’s see what happens?

Max Porath
August 7, 2019 9:19 am

For what it’s worth…

Attempting to geoengineer the climate on a global scale is a bad idea. Period. The reasons why are many but the primary one is blatantly obvious.

WE do NOT know what we are doing.

This one reason should be what ends any conversation about geoengineering climate on a global scale.

Now, there is a second reason that has, near, the primacy of the first reason.

WE do NOT matter.

Anything we do to try and geoengineer climate on a global scale will be useless on any, meaningful, time scale.

Congrats! After a decade of persistent (whatever stupid thing WE tried) the average temperature of the planet fell by .2C +/- 2C at a cost of (Whatever the cost is) and an ongoing cost to maintain it of (whatever that cost is). Keeping in mind, the whole time, that any one of hundreds of volcanos could erupt in cataclysmic fashion and show us how it’s really done. All our efforts will be lost in the noise and would need to cease. Hopefully, to never be attempted again.

Folks, we’re just not there yet and, unless we make some pretty miraculous strides in a whole lot of science and engineering fields, we will never be to the point where we could successfully geoengineer the global climate. If we ever reach that level of capability, we probably will not want or need to.

Cheers

Max

David Cage
August 7, 2019 11:54 am

So we are going to meddle with the climate based on an allegation that climate change is man made and that group has been allowed to be detective, prosecution counsel, jury and judge and no defence allowed as 97% of them agree the client is guilty. This, knowing that group that is financially wholly dependent on the premise being believed.
In my book that is not too bright.

tom0mason
August 7, 2019 1:50 pm

No need for geoengineering, Nature appears to doing a grand job of popping some particulates into the atmosphere. In the last month or so there’s been quite a bit of volcanic activity. [culled from https://electroverse.net/category/volcanic-seismic-activity/ ]

Sabancaya Volcano (the “Tongue of Fire”) Erupts to at least 31,000 feet (9.4 km) — August 6, 2019.

Another High-Level Eruption Observed at Ulawun Volcano — Ash Column Rising to a Colossal 63,000 feet (19.2 km)–August 4, 2019.

Ubinas Volcano, Peru Explodes to 40,000 feet (12.2 km)– July 20, 2019.

Manam Volcano just Exploded to 50,000 feet (15.2 km) — June 28, 2019.

Ulawun’s Activity revised-up to a Full-Scale Subplinian Eruption — Ash Fired to 63,000 feet (19.2 km) — June 26, 2019.

Ulawun Volcano, Papua New Guinea just Exploded to 50,000 feet (15.2 km) — Further Cooling the Atmosphere — June 26, 2019.

Raikoke Volcano Continues it’s Massive Explosive Activity Today — Ejecting Ash to 38,000 feet (11.6 km)– June 25, 2019.

Sudden Massive Explosive Activity at Raikoke Volcano, Russia — Ash Fired to 43,000 feet (13.1 km) a.s.l. — June 22, 2019.

187 Exhalations Detected at Mexico’s Popocatépetl Volcano in just 24 hours — the Largest of which Sends Ash to 42,000 feet (12.8 km) a.s.l. — June 18, 2019.

Mexico’s Popocatépetl Volcano Erupts with a Strong Vulcanian-Type Explosion, Firing Ash to 32,000 feet (9.8 km) — June 15, 2019.

Sinabung, Sumatra Explodes to 55,000 Feet (16.7 km) — Solar Connection + Global Cooling Effect — June 9, 2019.

Mexico’s Popocatépetl just blew to 37,000 feet (11.3 km) — the Volcano’s Largest Eruption in Years — June 3, 2019.

Mikko Akerman
August 7, 2019 7:20 pm

Something crazy just popped into my head: What if the expanding trails from the planes in the sky are actually geoengineering or solar radiation management already happening in full scale? Now that they admit at least thinking about doing it (have admitted that at least 2 years ago already), all of a sudden it’s like: “Holy crap! Could there actually be some truth behind the theories about chemtrails?” Oh dear, silly me…

Bob Weber
August 7, 2019 8:28 pm

Mt. Pinatubo aerosols were greatly overwhelmed by regular solar cycle TSI.

In fact, sea surface temperatures increased following Mt. Pinatubo, tracking TSI, as shown, normally.

Please stop all geoengineering schemes – clouds and aerosols can’t stop TSI warming/cooling.

ResourceGuy
August 8, 2019 7:55 am

When in need of publication effort in the volume-based research reward system, there are times when ludicrous effort is quite rational from a monetary viewpoint.