Claim: Climate Activists Face an Ethical Dilemma Abandoning Air Tourism

Soi Cowboy, a red light district in Bangkok.
Soi Cowboy, a red light district in Bangkok. Source: https://www.flickr.com/photos/moomoobloo/93523102/ Picture taken by flickr user moomoobloo in December 2005.

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

According to Professor Tom Baum of University of Strathclyde, our selfish desire to visit distant places has created a neo-colonial dependence, an implicit obligation to continue to take care of the economies of tourist hotspots after climate activists restrict global air travel.

Climate change and air travel: why we have a responsibility to countries dependent on tourism

July 23, 2019 2.23am AEST

Tom Baum Professor of Work, Employment and Organisation, University of Strathclyde

Few would deny the threat to our planet posed by climate change, or the role that humans have played in the degradation of the natural environment. These arguments have been highlighted by Greta Thunberg, the young Swedish activist whose single-minded determination forced the powers of Europe to pay attention.

Tourism and tradition

Research has not as yet addressed the implications of no fly for these developing countries, and such analysis will be a useful contribution to this debate. But if we no longer travel as much because of our commitment to the environment, what are the consequences for Phu Quoc and places like the Seychelles, St Lucia and Bali? Might they revert to their traditional way of life if tourism development disappeared? 

All are destinations where the traditional economy and culture have been side-lined or destroyed on the promise of tourism’s riches. That promise depended on the transformation of a landscape dominated by agriculture and fishing to a concrete infrastructure that curtails or even obliterates traditional activities. And all depend on air access, investing in infrastructure to accommodate jet loads of tourists at high volume.

What happens, then, when the planes stop coming? Arguably, in time, nature would reclaim the runways and resorts that would be abandoned. But that will take time, if indeed it happens at all. In the meantime, it may be too late to revert to the economies and lifestyles of the past. Many would say this is a price worth paying to save our planet. In other words, without tourists, Phu Quoc and similar destinations could become wastelands with no way back to prosperity. Which might be seen as their problem.

But it’s not that simple. Communities in LDCs and SIDS – or, rather governments on their behalf – were seduced by the promise of prosperity through tourism. There was an implicit commitment from market countries through aid and loans that the planes would keep flying and the tourists keep arriving. 

This form of neo-colonial dependence now places an obligation on countries and individual travellers whose demand created these destinations. However well-intentioned the no-fly campaign is, it is challenging from an ethical point of view to abandon these tourism destinations.

Read more: https://theconversation.com/climate-change-and-air-travel-why-we-have-a-responsibility-to-countries-dependent-on-tourism-120462

There is an obvious solution. Hold more climate conferences. Nobody complains when greens fly to a climate conference, that kind of flying is good for the planet.

Climate scientists seem to require exotic holiday locations like Bangkok, Paris or Rio to properly disseminate their research, so if the number of climate conferences is increased to compensate for the fall in regular tourism, fly in tourist destinations can be assured of continued economic support from rich Westerners.

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Justin Burch
July 23, 2019 2:08 pm

“Might they revert to their traditional way of life if tourism development disappeared?” Am I smelling a little colonialist nostalgia for the imaginary days of the noble savage living in peace and harmony with nature while, naturally and in harmony with nature, dying in childbirth, starving during a drought, and being plagued by all kinds of illnesses and parasites no colonialist would dream of tolerating?

Pat Frank
Reply to  Justin Burch
July 23, 2019 4:52 pm

Not to mention pervasive cannibalism, incessant warfare, and massacre

Wally
Reply to  Pat Frank
July 23, 2019 5:37 pm

Hypocrisy galore.

Not mentioned is that this Tom Baum is a supporter of the horrific Israeli / Zionist actions against the indigenous Palestinians.

Baum supports Israeli immigration laws which specify JEWS ONLY, while he demands massive, unemployable, 3rd world immigration into the US & Europe.

davidmhoffer
Reply to  Wally
July 23, 2019 9:16 pm

What does his policy on Israel have to do with the issue at hand? I’ll tell you what. Nothing.

If you’re going to stray from the topic, at least get your facts straight. About 7% of immigration to Israel is Arabic. A small amount is Christian. Of the balance, over half have Jewish ancestry, but are not Jewish according to Jewish law, and are not legally recognized as Jewish by Israel itself.

Greg
Reply to  Wally
July 24, 2019 3:18 am

He mentions Phu Cock a phu to many times. It seems that his main motivation here is establish a “debate” so that he can continue travelling to exotic locations for a bit of 3rd world sex tourism during the long academic summer.

But he’s right, if these countries stop providing under-age sex opportunities for ageing westerners what kind of future will they have? It’s real moral bind for these heavily committed SJW types.

Phoenix44
Reply to  Wally
July 24, 2019 6:32 am

What, the homeland created for the Jewish people only accepts Jews as immigrants? What a shock. And how are the Arabs “indigenous”? And “horrific”? You are giving far too much credence to propaganda -I wonder why?

Chaswarnertoo
Reply to  Pat Frank
July 23, 2019 11:21 pm

You forgot slavery.

David Murray
Reply to  Pat Frank
July 24, 2019 7:33 am

Still at the second and third though.

Goldrider
Reply to  Pat Frank
July 24, 2019 7:42 am

That “lifestyle of the past” they reference was known as grinding, subsistence poverty replete with backbreaking work, inadequate diet, high infant mortality, and dying young from infections.

Or would the crackpot who wrote this like to go back to living in a damp, freezing cave, wearing nothing but a stinky bearskin, eating dandelion roots and the remnants of a dead woodchuck?
Party on, dude, if that’s your pleasure.

Seriously, these “colleges” need to be defunded if this is the kind of absurdity they’re churning out.

Curious George
Reply to  Justin Burch
July 23, 2019 5:51 pm

Professor of Work, Employment and Organisation, University of Strathclyde

Formerly a Foreman. What a university!

michael hart
Reply to  Curious George
July 23, 2019 6:31 pm

The good Professor should also write to The Guardian/Observer newspaper group and ask them when they intend to stop publishing a separate travel supplement at the weekend. It probably accounts for a significant fraction of their dwindling advertising revenues.

Gerry, England
Reply to  michael hart
July 24, 2019 5:48 am

Their readership is so small that it would barely make any difference.

Bryan A
Reply to  Gerry, England
July 24, 2019 12:28 pm

More than likely, the majority of their readership is traffic from articles discussed on WUWT that the readers here have clicked through to see the remainder of the articles.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Curious George
July 23, 2019 8:47 pm

“Professor of Work, Employment and Organisation” Who has never worked, employs nobody and couldn’t organize a circle-jerk.

Ken
Reply to  Dave Fair
July 24, 2019 8:10 am

Mean.

Ken
Reply to  Curious George
July 24, 2019 8:12 am

But funny as h*ll.

Phoenix44
Reply to  Justin Burch
July 24, 2019 6:35 am

Yes, I went to some not very touristy parts of Thailand in 1985 – not as bad as the villages I visited in southern Africa around the same time, but dirt poor with very high infant and maternal mortality rates. Very little education and almost everybody worked seven days a week 10 hours a day trying to grow enough food to survive.

Why so many Western Progressives believe in theses fairyland before development is beyond me – except tat it’s necessary to believe in them to believe in all the other BS.

MarkG
Reply to  Phoenix44
July 26, 2019 8:32 am

Yes. Socialism never works in the present, so the left have to project it into the past or future, and tell us it worked then.

Otherwise they’d have to admit their entire ideology is a failure.

Hence the massive corruption of anthropology, for example.

LarryD
Reply to  Phoenix44
July 26, 2019 1:28 pm

That’s why I keep saying that they need to spend a few weeks living in a colonial re-enactment. Experiencing a pre-industrial life-style would cure a lot of their romanticism.

Bryan A
July 23, 2019 2:11 pm

Thailand can be adopted by Tom Steyer and rebranded Steyerland

R Shearer
Reply to  Bryan A
July 23, 2019 3:48 pm

for Girly Boys.

Bryan A
July 23, 2019 2:13 pm

Or perhaps they could make conjunctiveitis fashionable and rebrand the place Sty-land

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  Bryan A
July 23, 2019 3:45 pm

Trachoma.
Chlamydia trachomatis sub. Steyerensis

Linda Goodman
July 23, 2019 2:37 pm

Climate insanity is the naked emperor and everyone’s debating the fabric.

Tom Gelsthorpe
Reply to  Linda Goodman
July 23, 2019 3:54 pm

Touché.

Greg
Reply to  Tom Gelsthorpe
July 24, 2019 3:27 am

Touché means touched. It is a term of recognition that an opponent has scored a point against you. Originally from fencing, it can be used figuratively in an argument to recognise that someone you are disagreeing with has a valid point.

Are you an alarmist who has just realised that Climate insanity is the naked emperor ?

Dave Fair
July 23, 2019 2:44 pm

“… revert to the economies and lifestyles of the past.” Which gave short, brutal lives. Tourism enriches locals where their only other alternative was subsistence survival; no modern medicine, communications, HVAC, etc. Bucolic only in the minds of rich Westerners.

icisil
July 23, 2019 2:52 pm

These nitwits are situational ethics junkies with no moral compass.

n.n
Reply to  icisil
July 23, 2019 10:40 pm

Principles are inconvenient observable, reproducible standards for the Chamber, with a twilight faith, and Pro-Choice quasi-religion. So, the secular cult has invested its leverage to normalize ethical standards (i.e. selective, opportunistic, politically congruent, “living”) for diverse causes.

Dave Fair
Reply to  n.n
July 23, 2019 10:43 pm

Or “evolve” your viewpoints.

n.n
July 23, 2019 2:55 pm

Ethical or selective, opportunistic, relative. Losing their Pro-Choice religion? Probably not.

damp
July 23, 2019 3:13 pm

“Morality is always dreadfully complicated to a man who has lost all his principles.” – G.K. Chesterton

The Depraved and MOST Deplorable Vlad the Impaler
July 23, 2019 3:23 pm

I see no reason that Pocatello, Idaho, is NOT a viable climate conference venue. The weather, this time of year, is absolutely stunning. Conferees should be BEGGING their governments to send them to Pocatallo.

Am I missing something?

RHS

The should visit the first nuclear power plant while they’re visiting. Oh, and Craters of the Moon.

HotScot

The Depraved and MOST Deplorable Vlad the Impaler

I’m afraid you are missing something dear chap. It’s called taxation.

You see the obvious solution is for all us feelthee reech westerners to pay a ‘lost tourism’ tax on top of carbon taxes to ensure these people are not deprived of the living standards we have forced them to adopt.

See, easy when you get the hang of this climate change malarky.

Phoenix44

Should surely be the place that is the “cheapest” to get in terms of carbon emissions. Get the list of delegates and get a computer to find the best location. Train for as many as possible and shortest flying for the rest. Probably somewhere like Warsaw.

Wharfplank
July 23, 2019 3:26 pm

Climate Change and Global Warming are the fence posts and barbed wire that will enslave humanity

John Bell
July 23, 2019 3:30 pm

The twisted logic needed by greens to rationalize their own hypocrisy. Hilarious.

Chris Hanley
Reply to  John Bell
July 24, 2019 12:40 am

Yes and it’s all about them, relieving their own guilt, not the welfare of the people at the destination.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  John Bell
July 24, 2019 4:25 am

oh but but they “only do” the nice ecotourism venues and pay for carbon offests dontcha know?

the hostility industry is a bloody waqste of a life running round serving n cleaning up after others, then the poor working stiffs usually women get to go home and do another 5 hrs at home.
low wages and pressure to work harder ongoing.. tourisms NOT anything to be pleased about.

H.R.
Reply to  ozspeaksup
July 24, 2019 5:57 am

The “hostility industry”.

Intentional or not, I like it!

July 23, 2019 3:33 pm

Perhaps the likes of the UN and its offshoot the IPCC could ask
what the people of these holiday resorts actually want.

Are they the people worried about the planet coming to a end.?

But no, we the wiser people know far more about such things than you lot.

We have always had tourism, what changed was that the Western countries got richer because of our fossil fuel based way of life, and that same intelligent use of fossil fuel energy led to aircraft being developed which brought down the price of air travel.

It all gets back to the use of fossil fuel, which is why the Greens are against it.

MJE VK5ELL

commieBob
July 23, 2019 3:43 pm

The solution is simple. Bring back sailing ships. 🙂

The last China clippers were acknowledged as the fastest sail vessels. When fully rigged and riding a tradewind, they had peak average speeds over 16 knots (30 km/h). The Great Tea Race of 1866 showcased their speed. China clippers are also the fastest commercial sailing vessels ever made. Their speeds have been exceeded many times by modern yachts, but never by a commercial sail vessel. Only the fastest windjammers could attain similar speeds. link

An ocean voyage and a dream vacation every ten years or so. What could be better?

Shoki Kaneda
July 23, 2019 3:44 pm

Climatistas should all move to third world tourist spots so they may live in solidarity with their brothers and sisters. Travel problem solved.

RHS
Reply to  Shoki Kaneda
July 23, 2019 5:16 pm

How about Mogadishu while they’re out and about? Let them see poverty first hand…

yarpos
July 23, 2019 3:46 pm

The travel hypocrisy will continue, its all about restrictions for thee not for me. The Gores and the Di Caprios of the world will continue to lecture us as they circle the world and get transfered to their 6 star accommodation in luxury SUVs. Even the saint status PM of New Zealand recently returned from a global virtue tour only to jet of for a bit of a family holiday in Raratonga. Anything to escape the tawdry conditions and scenery of NZ I guess.

Greg Woods
July 23, 2019 3:46 pm

‘Few would deny the threat to our planet posed by climate change, or the role that humans have played in the degradation of the natural environment. These arguments have been highlighted by Greta Thunberg, the young Swedish activist whose single-minded determination forced the powers of Europe to pay attention.’

Hmmm?

dodgy geezer
July 23, 2019 3:48 pm

Western countries could pay for Environmentalists to fly to these places, and count it as “foreign aid”.

I wonder if that will be his next proposal…?

Alan the Brit
Reply to  dodgy geezer
July 23, 2019 9:41 pm

The forerunner of “foreign aid” was Papal Indulgencies, whereby the wealthy could ease their conciences by making generous donatons to the “cause”, paving the way for their eternal salvation!

Susan
Reply to  dodgy geezer
July 24, 2019 1:15 am

One way tickets of course.

Kenji
July 23, 2019 3:52 pm

Seriously!!!!???

A full Professor at Clydesdale Univ. … cites a mentally and emotionally challenged CHILD … as “proof” of Climate Change?

His must be the EASIEST classes at Clydesdale Univ.

Greg Cavanagh
Reply to  Kenji
July 23, 2019 5:08 pm

The article is so ridiculous on so many levels it beggars belief. That this came from a professor deserves several exclamation marks.

“Few would deny the threat to our planet posed by climate change” = wrong. Every poll of the populace says otherwise.

“or the role that humans have played in the degradation of the natural environment” = mostly wrong; it’s a concern of most, but most don’t understand the real situation thanks to the media hype.

“What happens, then, when the planes stop coming? Arguably, in time, nature would reclaim the runways and resorts”. What? Everybody just abandons the prime real estate and does nothing with it. This guy is so institutionalised I’m sure he doesn’t know what grass looks like. Utterly ridiculous.

R Shearer
July 23, 2019 3:53 pm

Wait until the ethical dilemma of no electricity, AC, heating, food, medical supplies, etc. rears its head.

Craig from Oz
July 23, 2019 3:59 pm

“…Greta Thunberg, the young Swedish activist whose single-minded determination…”

Single minded.

Remember all those motivational memes? Stuff like, “Your mind is like a parachute – it works best when it is open”?

Remember, to a Left having an open mind is a Good Thing when you disagree with them and need to expand your world view, but once your world view has been corrected, narrow it down again to single-minded determination.

Pretty much the same as Lefts and democratic process. If you agree with us, it is the voice of the public. If you allow (cough) Russian Bots to affect the outcome then sorry people, time for a bit of dictatorship for your own good.

Paul Penrose
July 23, 2019 4:02 pm

Well, the solution is obvious to any Green/Eco activist: we need to keep supporting them by sending them “welfare” payments every month. After all, it’s not their fault that they are now dependent on our tourist money.

ianl
July 23, 2019 4:08 pm

Air travel restricted … restricted to whom ?

So says a Professor of Strathclyde’s Social Knitting.

CAGW has moved way past vomitous.

Eugene S Conlin
Reply to  ianl
July 24, 2019 3:17 am

Obviously well qualified to be counted as a Global Warming/ClimateChange/CAGW expert

“Professor Tom Baum
Head Of Department
Work, Employment and Organisation
My academic interests address the social and strategic contexts of low skills employment, with particular focus on hospitality and tourism.
I hold BA(Hons) and MA degrees in Education from the University of Wales, Aberystwyth, an MPhil in Training and Development obtained while working with Nottingham Trent University and a PhD in Tourism Labour Market Studies from the University of Strathclyde. I have recently completed my DLitt degree from the University of Strathclyde, based on my published work in the field of tourism and employment over a 30 year period.”

Dave Fair
Reply to  Eugene S Conlin
July 24, 2019 11:52 am

An educated fool.

Al Miller
July 23, 2019 4:32 pm

Few would deny the threat to our planet posed by climate change, or the role that humans have played in the degradation of the natural environment.

I more than question it- I say it is an outright lie. And judging by the numerous comments here and in other places, and the fact that most average people vote with their feet; and continue to drive pickups and fly to vacation spots etc., etc. etc. I would have to conclude that Mr. Tom Baum is out of touch and ill informed on what the people believe- oops know (belief is for warmists due to lack of facts).

Earthling2
July 23, 2019 4:55 pm

Some of these poorer, especially tropical countries that rely heavily on tourism for a good part of their GDP had best think twice about criticizing air travel. While they are probably only thinking about maximizing climate extortion monies for going along with the IPCC directives, they sure would look hypocritical if they start squawking about people flying to their neck of the jungle to have a holiday and leave behind a bunch of money for their economy.

Speed
July 23, 2019 5:13 pm

Climb aboard one of these majestic sailing ships and set sail to exotic locations. Experience life at sea up close, on vessels ranging in size from 6 passenger Schooners to 300 passenger Tall Ships.
https://sailingshipadventures.com/

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Speed
July 23, 2019 6:26 pm

I took a Windjammer cruise in the Caribbean back in the early 90s. 240′ sailing ship, pretty awesome.

Лазо
July 23, 2019 5:32 pm

And since these people are smarter than we, holier than thou and the “scientific experts” of fear-mongering climate change, the increase of the number of climate conferences and their wonton flights there will be totally justified.

CapitalistRoader
July 23, 2019 5:38 pm

Maybe an intermediate solution would for the climate hysterics to travel to those tourist destinations on the off season i.e., schedule their conferences to the tropical locations in the hottest of summer months; to the temperate regions in the dead of winter. That way they could still signal their virtue while supporting those localities when they need it the most.

LOL@Klimate Katastrophe Kooks
July 23, 2019 5:40 pm

There is no “implicit commitment” in tourist travel… unless the eco-tard is claiming that myself, as a tourist, owes that third-world country money for *not* traveling there.

These totalitarian fascists can’t understand capitalism and freedom… the tourist traps freely engaged in commerce understanding the risks, tourists freely travel to those tourist destinations, and the climate alarmists are free to feck right off with their humanity-hating, socialist, we-will-force-you-to-bend-to-our-will claptrap.

Freedom… ain’t it grand?

Tim
Reply to  LOL@Klimate Katastrophe Kooks
July 23, 2019 7:07 pm

It won’t happen quickly They work in increments.

Watch for “Mandatory Travel Restrictions” for certain naughty naysayer groups.

Gary
July 23, 2019 5:41 pm

They could always use 1970s technology.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacCready_Gossamer_Albatross

yarpos
Reply to  Gary
July 24, 2019 1:36 am

Or the very capable audio and visual coneferencing tools available. Greta would know.

MarkG
Reply to  yarpos
July 26, 2019 8:35 am

VR is going to make travel obsolete over the next couple of decades. I’m sure it won’t stop the Global Warmers from flying to fancy conferences, though.

We were discussing this at work the other day. With a VR robot at customer sites, we could eliminate most of our business travel; for our company alone, that would cut millions of dollars from airline incomes.

Jeff Alberts
July 23, 2019 6:22 pm

“Climate scientists seem to require exotic holiday locations like Bangkok, Paris or Rio to properly disseminate their research”

Cherry picking. They go to not so exotic places too. Though I agree that their get-togethers are completely irrelevant as far as climate is concerned.

Earthling2
Reply to  Eric Worrall
July 23, 2019 9:53 pm

LOL…maybe I switch sides and get on that gravy train. All expenses paid, 5 star accommodation, lots of pretty girls, exotic locations or NYC will do. All paid for by stupid taxpayers. What isn’t there to like? I’ll say anything you like and vote however you like…

Greg Cavanagh
Reply to  Earthling2
July 23, 2019 10:39 pm

3rd on the list:-
36th meeting of the Least Developed Countries Expert Group

They need disbanding if they’ve had 35 meetings already. I’m sure another one isn’t going to do any more than the last 35 did.

How on God’s green Earth does one become an expert in Least Developed Countries?

Dave Fair
Reply to  Greg Cavanagh
July 23, 2019 10:41 pm

Learn to say “Shithole” very fast.

yarpos
Reply to  Greg Cavanagh
July 24, 2019 1:39 am

“How on God’s green Earth does one become an expert in Least Developed Countries?”

Backpacking and poverty tourism, oh and you really have to care as you jet towards your 35th meeting. I wonder what they list as there main achivements in recent years??

yarpos
Reply to  Eric Worrall
July 24, 2019 1:34 am

Bonn and the Upper Conference room fail to stir my loins Im afraid

Greg
Reply to  yarpos
July 24, 2019 3:45 am

Yes, I think Eric blew his own argument with that link.

Have you ever been to Bonn ? FFS. Hardly a tourist haven. UN Headquarters , well if you’ve never had the chance to smell the air in NY, I suppose that a must for the bucket list.

Bonn, Abroad, TBC, Bonn, Abroad, TBC ….

Hardly a tourist brochure , is it ?

anorak2
Reply to  Greg
July 24, 2019 1:36 pm

The Rhine valley is quite pleasant, and some of the surrounding hills and castles are rather picturesque. At least they’ll have a decent hotel with a wine list to match. Better than staying at home and watching tv.

Gary Pearse
July 23, 2019 9:26 pm

The last thing these destinations need is a

“Professor of Work, Employment and Organisation, University of Strathclyde”

Even the Soviet Union didnt have such a faculty. What must his lectures be like? What must a researcher do in such a department to get her PhD? Lord, think of the enormous opportunity costs of the world’s universities bloated with information free useless “studies”. The weak minded, foolish output from a faculty named this is a measure of the intractable mess that has been made of higher education. No wonder there are worrying statistics that smart students are dropping out of highschool.

Here’s the thing Tommy. The whole nutty business of which climate is the small part is going to collapse soon. The world’s biggest problem is really what are we going to do to clean up the infestation that has all but destroyed education from kindergarten to ersatz PhDs in nothingness and the zombielike legions of its products for which there is no use. Bali and the Seyshelles will be just fine.

tom0mason
July 23, 2019 9:30 pm

“Climate Activists Face an Ethical Dilemma Abandoning” everything that a modern industrialized nation has to offer, and move to a modern version of medieval feudalism with strong paganism beliefs, or understand that humans do NOT control the weather or climate.

davidmhoffer
July 23, 2019 9:50 pm

I’m old enough to remember when farmers got paid not not farm. Fast forward to present, and now they are paid to grow food in order to burn it.

I suppose we’ll soon be paying airlines to not fly and hotels to not rent rooms. But we’ll pay aircraft companies to build plains and construction companies to build hotels in order to protect those jobs. Then we’ll burn the airplanes and the hotels because climate change.

Dave Fair
Reply to  davidmhoffer
July 23, 2019 10:28 pm

We do that already by paying rent-seekers to produce unneeded “renewable” power and forcing utilities to take unneeded power.

Greg Cavanagh
Reply to  davidmhoffer
July 23, 2019 10:42 pm

Climate Crusaders will burn the planes and the hotels.
Then the insurance will pay it out and, and workers (employment) will rebuilt them.
Then they’ll be burned to the ground again, then the insurance….

Dave Fair
Reply to  Greg Cavanagh
July 23, 2019 10:44 pm

The “Broken Window Fallacy.”

Dave Fair
Reply to  Greg Cavanagh
July 23, 2019 10:45 pm

And insurance companies aren’t stupid, unlike socialists.

Coeur de Lion
July 23, 2019 9:53 pm

TheTimes newspaper ran a piece yesterday about a carbon tax on each flight. It is to be ‘voluntary ‘. Thirty quid to LA. Ho ho.

MangoChutney
July 23, 2019 10:13 pm

This will put a dent in the plans of (mostly) left-wing students planning their gap year, visiting all the exotic countries on their bucket list. I guess they could all Brits have a walking trip around places like Accrington to see how the other half live.

And what will the glitterati do now without their trips to the posh exotic places?

Poor Emma

July 23, 2019 10:21 pm

Sell only one way tickets, “you can check in any time but you can never leave.”

That will boost tourist economies.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Hans Erren
July 23, 2019 10:39 pm

Hotel California or the Roach Motel. [I actually stayed at the No Tell Motel in Eugene, OR.]

yirgach
Reply to  Hans Erren
July 24, 2019 10:24 am

Just reverse the flow, send the exotic locals back to live the boring eco-loon lifestyle.
I’m sure they would love it.

Petit_Barde
July 23, 2019 11:09 pm

In a near future, there will be only climate clowns in each and every plane, going around the World all the year long, explaining to us that we shall NEVER AGAIN travel by air … because climate change.

So, I wonder if apart the University of Strathclyde,
there is any other University that offers a clown’s license for those who may have to travel for their business ?

joe
July 24, 2019 12:29 am

Solar powered dirigibles should be the answer to all the greens travel plans.

yarpos
Reply to  joe
July 24, 2019 1:42 am

Just ride Unicorns to the rainbow, climb up and slide down the other side. Its as realistic as anything they are talking about.

Disputin
July 24, 2019 1:52 am

‘Few would deny the threat to our planet posed by climate change’
Well, I’m one for a start.
(And there are many more!)

BC
July 24, 2019 1:59 am

Every time I think I’ve read the most ridiculous claim about ‘climate change’, an article like this comes along!

Ed Zuiderwijk
July 24, 2019 2:36 am

What a load of deluded drivel. Remind me, how many angels did fit on a pinhead?

H.R.
Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
July 24, 2019 6:18 am

They are still counting, Ed. Results to be published real soon now.

Do you have any idea how hard it is to count angels? They keep fluttering about, up and down from Heaven to Earth and back again, messing up the count and causing a lot of restarts on the count.

The Angel counters will need a lot more grant money if we’re ever to find out how many angels fit on the head of a pin.

Greg
July 24, 2019 3:36 am

I can see the next step in this guilt driven drivel.

We must stop flying to save the planet. But we must compensate 3rd countries for not going there and acting like ass-holes each year. Therefore we must forfeit the money we would have paid for a holiday in an exotic location and give it to the UN, who will scim 20% for ‘administrative overheads’ and use the rest bribe kleptocrats in small 3rd world countries to support further “climate” initiatives at the UN.

So you’ll need to save all year and then pay to stay at home, feeling all warm and fuzzy in two separate places in your heart.

Paul Penrose
Reply to  Greg
July 24, 2019 9:29 am

That is exactly where this kind of thinking leads.

Coeur de Lion
July 24, 2019 6:12 am

Though I do think some places are degraded by overmuch tourism. Only the rich like me should be allowed – and checked for sexual exploitation before flying. But I’ve done nearly all the travelling I want anyway. Perhaps frequent short haul to France remains Not Ryanair .

JS
July 24, 2019 6:24 am

I smell white saviourism. How did these backwoods locations become so dependent on White Ecotourism? I know the usual arguments – globalism, capitalism, colonialism, etc. But why were they not able to stand up for themselves with their supposedly superior way of life?

Phoenix44
July 24, 2019 6:48 am

The world these nutters envision is so unpleasant and dull I cannot imagine people actually standing for it. No long haul travel, short trips only by train, water rationing (for us Brits), rolling blackouts, no cars, only local food…

And the consequences will be mass unemployment and a huge drop in our wealth. Hopefully we all get so hungry we will have to resort to cannabilism – with idiot professors the first on the menu.

William Astley
July 24, 2019 9:36 am

Let’s hope the people would move off the islands before cannibalism.

Think of all the trillions of dollars and tons of CO2 wasted on tourism. Let’s snap our fingers and end it all in a day.

Come on man.

I do not know who are more child like”

1) The angry child like, cult of CAGW.

The public will not support the shutdown of tourism worldwide

2) Sleeping pubic, Fake news, Agenda Politicians

We and the fake news reporters are clueless that countries and states are passing laws that will shutdown there economies, including tourism.

here would also an end of trips from and to Europe. France has the highest number of tourist visits per year. .
France, Spain, and then the US are the number one tourism destinations in the world.

1 France
86.9 million

2 Spain
81.8 million
10.5
3 United States
76.9 million

4 China
60.7 million

5 Italy
58.3 million

6 Mexico
39.3 million

7 United Kingdom
37.7 million

8 Turkey
37.6 million
9 Germany
37.5 million

10 Thailand
35.4 million

Dave Fair
Reply to  William Astley
July 24, 2019 11:58 am

And England would have no tourism without the monarchy.

Steve O
July 24, 2019 10:40 am

It’s nice that activists acknowledge some of the economic havoc their policies will create, but they need to get a grip.

Air travel and tourism are not going away. Of the proportion of sheeple who have been taken in by the delusion of preventable CAGW, how many are actually going to substantially change their behaviors? They’re not even eating bugs yet.

Tom Abbott
July 24, 2019 10:51 am

From the article: “However well-intentioned the no-fly campaign is, it is challenging from an ethical point of view to abandon these tourism destinations.”

It’s not going to happen. This no-fly campaign is a creation of the Loony Leftists in the Western Democracies. In the first place, the Western Democracies are not going to implement a no-fly campaign, and second of all, if they did, the rest of the world would ignore it and go about business as usual including flying as much as they desired.

Lefties are SO delusional. They are disconnected from the Real World.

Wiliam Haas
July 24, 2019 2:07 pm

Those that believe that the burning of fossil fuels is bad should stop making use of all goods and services that involve the use of fossil fuels. Of course most of us would die if we tried to do that. For example, in the town where I live, the food we eat is brought in by trucks that burn fossil fuels. Without that food, most of the people in the town where I live would have to move away or die of starvation. The next best thing would be to minimise our use of goods and services that involve the use of fossil fuels. That would involve staying at home as much as possible and consume the bare minimum of goods and services that involve the use of fossil fuels. I am sure that if we all did that, the effects on our economy would be devastating and billions would starve to death. Otherwise it is a good plan. Mankind, 200 or more years ago made virtually no use of fossil fuels but our economy of 200 years ago could not support the current world human population to going back to older economies would mean that billions would have to die.

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