Pennsylvania Man thinks roundabouts are causing tornadoes…what a time to be alive pic.twitter.com/SYdgBOIQuB
— Busted Coverage (@bustedcoverage) June 5, 2019
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Let’s see….I know – hula-hoops….square dancing (which is really going “round and round” when they do the circle home)….merry-go-rounds and other carnival rides, skating rinks…
Finally we know who’s causing tornadoes, NASCAR.
Bush’s fabled weather machine! It was hidden in plain sight all along!!!
I can see it too, all those cars going in the same direction causing a vortex that creates tornadoes! Roundabouts, the end of the human race! No wonder we only have 7 years left, or is it 20 years, or 40 years, or a century?
Modern large aircraft wings produce more and bigger vortices than puny traffic on roundabouts.
There is an attribution problem. Nobody has shown that past tornados required an existing vortex as a seed to enable them. Geoff.
I think most here, like myself, were being facetious, and think the guy is a total idiot.
Roundabouts create CO2 vortexes — this needs study.
Should apply for a LARGE grant from the U of Mann.
The man needs to explain how they rotate opposite of each other. Roundabouts turn counterclockwise whereas most tornadoes spin clockwise
Are you in the southern hemisphere, Jamie?
Tornado – left to right movement of the ‘cloud mass’ as you look at it.
Precursor to the tornado, the super-cell thunderstorm and “wall cloud”:
http://time.com/106069/watch-a-cloud-supercell-form-in-this-time-lapse-video/
I thought tornadoes started as a mass of air spinning on a horizontal axis. This mass of air then gets tilted to the vertical. So the direction of rotation for a tornado depends on which end gets tilted down.
No. Vertical axis. Rotation is counterclockwise in Northern hemisphere.
re: MarkW June 10, 2019 at 4:37 pm
I thought tornadoes started as a mass of air spinning on a horizontal axis.
There is a little more to it than that.
Just, stay away from the “Solving Tornadoes” fiction written by James McGinn.
(Mark, haven’t you ever watched an episode of “Storm Chasers”?)
John Isaacs, a renown oceanographer at UC San Diego, thought something similar–that cars passing one another on the right were putting cyclonic vorticity into the atmosphere. Published a note on the topic back in the 1960s. Even smart people have a few loopy ideas.
Yes, I recall a similar publication where they showed that more tornadoes occur near interstate highways. Of course, there are more people to see tornadoes on interstate highways, so it’s probably an observational bias. Even if cars passing each other generate positive vorticity between them, they generate negative vorticity on the outside, and the net effect over, say, a couple hundred yards is zero, I believe.
Yes, averaged over a hundred yards it has to be near zero. Thus Feynman’s dictum that if you don’t take an argument to completion you can prove all sorts of things that aren’t so.
I’ve used the line for about twenty years.
Central banks are to financial markets as tornadoes are to trailer courts.
It’s a feedback loop.
The solution is to only Teslas to drive around in circles.
jmorpuss will chime in here shortly with a recommendation to see the “Solving Tornadoes” self-published book by the nitwit (James McGinn) who fails to understand how the ‘water cycle’ enters into the picture in combination with clashing air masses …
N.B. water cycle – the cycle of processes by which water circulates between the earth’s oceans, atmosphere, and land, involving precipitation as rain and snow, drainage in streams and rivers, and return to the atmosphere by evaporation and transpiration.
If Americans drove on the proper and natural (Left) side of the road the effect would obviously be to counteract any incipient Tornadoes and render them inert!
Well, since a German invented the automobile, and they drive on the right side of the road, I’d say you are the odd men out.
Yes, but if you look at the Benz vehicle you can see the driver’s position is on the vehicle centreline.
Ergo Benz was either a fence sitter or deeply concerned about massive tornadoes ripping through the Black Forrest, and hence refused to set a left/right precedence for safety reasons.
Also, I am lead to believe that the worlds first legal definition on the left/right issue was made in London in regards to traffic crossing London Bridge. It is from this historical declaration that the folk song ‘London Bridge is Falling Down’ clearly springs, for if one reads deep into the lyrics there are clear indications of the grave risks of right side of the bridge created vortexes producing catastrophic failure. The British were clearly not going to stand for a constant cycle of vortex and repair and as a result made a grand effort to ensure their children understood the bally dangers from a ripe young age.
By extension it can then be clearly shown that this early cultural training has lead to a state of affairs in modern Britain where tornadoes simply are not a problem, although the fact it now rains constantly is usually swept under the carpet.
And that, Ladies and Gentlemen, is how SCIENCE! is done.
Probably… 🙂
UK folks should give us props. We were late in adopting but saw no reason to change well established term.
Also, first US traffic light – Indiana. First US modern roundabout – Indiana
In the “Failed to Explain” category (by the ’roundabout theory’, or the “Solving Tornadoes” theory as well) – we have dust devils, and where I saw the most dust devils were out in the western US, under clear, sunny skies over the desert landscape.
Extreme example of a dust devil – “Weather Gone Viral: Boy Tossed Into Air by Dust Devil”
Can’t be. Tornadoes rotate clockwise, traffic circles (roundabouts) go counter-clockwise (in the USA).
HWGA
WBHB
No,tornadoes turn counterclockwise in the northern hemisphere.
Anticlockwise.
It is because the vehicles are travelling Widdershins.
There are a couple of roundabouts in the UK consisting of 7 small roundabouts linked together…
I think these are causing interdimensional vortexes…
Wow! More photos:
https://google.com/search?q=hemel+hempstead+roundabout&tbm=isch
First, I need to restore the correct terminology of “traffic circles”, which everyone wants to call “roundabouts”. Second, traffic circles are closely related to crop circles, except they can’t form over unpaved fields, but generally require asphalt. I have personally seen strange vehicles on the traffic circles, which must be the ones creating them. 😉
Reminds me, in a back to front way, of the alien reporting back to his superiors after a visit to earth;
“Yes, sir, they enjoy the smell of their oceans so much that they have vast arrays of propellers blowing the sea air around their world.”
What other logical reason would a member of an advanced civilisation possibly think of for these constructions.
In the USA, I think the term has always been “traffic circle.” But my TomTom (European company) calls it a “roundabout,” and I’m not sure but I think Garmin (U.S./Swiss company) does the same, which probably means the Brits are going to win this argument.
Oops! Correcting myself: TomTom calls it a “rotary.”
Thank you, Juan, for reminding me.
What does Garmin call it?
What does Google Earth call it?
We invented roundabouts and we named them. There’s a regrettable tendency amongst Americans to rename things according to what they are used for, rather than what they are.
Big of you to admit it, Roger. We forgive y’all.
Roger..in the good ole USA, they are called Freedom Circles. 😁
I visited Boston a few years ago. There were signs all over town advising: “Rotary ahead.” Took me a while to figure out how one town could have so many service clubs….
Is a traffic circle similar to ‘Circle Work’?
Yet some how we think the average person is smarter than 500 years ago.
Likely Poe. Some 4-chan anon is probably laughing his ass off right now.
Well, the Swindon magic roundabout is in Wiltshire, the home of crop circles in the UK.
Well, it’s not the stupidest thing I ever heard, but it’s close. First prize goes to a young lad (21) and his girl friend (19) that I hired to help me move some furniture out of a storage locker near Edwards AFB to a new apartment in Arizona. Passing through the wind farm at Banning pass he asked what all those big propellers on towers were for. Unable to suppress my natural tendency to be a smart-a$$, I replied that it was an experiment and when the smog in LA got too bad they would turn them on and suck the smog out into the high desert where it wouldn’t bother anybody. Their only question was, “Does it get all of it out, or only a little?” They actually BELIEVED it! And I learned a valuable lesson about the dangers of being a smart-a$$.
Tornaders, rhymes with pataters.
We could test some of these posted ‘theories’ by going to nascar races. They love to go round and round to the left!
Ha, ha. Here in the UK we have thousands of roundabouts everywhere, and tornadoes are virtually unknown.
I have a corollary social theory here. The reason that the UK is so much more socialist than the US is that your traffic engineers make it very easy to make a Left turn, and devilishly difficult to make a turn to the Right.
Here in the Rebel Territories, it is the opposite. Very difficult to make a left turn. Case in point is my city.
For a while, we had “suicide left turn lanes” – they reversed the direction and banned left turns depending on whether it was morning or evening rush hour. Then we have the mix of preceding and following signals, that seem to have very little reasoning as to where they put them. NOW they are busy remodeling intersections to make it so you have to go through the light, then make a U-turn, get across three lanes of oncoming traffic, and then make a Right turn if you want to go Left.
Not all that many traffic circles, though; a few on residential streets (mostly around the University, where they really don’t know which way they’re supposed to go on any one day, especially when they don’t get copied with the appropriate ideological memo).
Egad, sounds like Tucson, home of the worst traffic engineers in the free world.
In NZ, if turning left, you have to give way to traffic turning right in the opposite lane. Then there are 3 turning rules at an intersection depending on the road markings.