Time Magazine: Illegal Immigrants are Climate Refugees

Undocumented migrants pouring into Europe.
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Guest essay by Eric Worrall

According to Time Magazine, President Trump’s Climate Change Policies are helping to create the border crisis.

The Real Culprit Behind Trump’s Border Emergency? Climate Change

By JUSTIN WORLAND
2:15 PM EST

President Donald Trump is expected to convene a new panel that will likely undermine the expert consensus that climate change threatens national security.

But experts say that move is at odds with his recent declaration of a national emergency at the U.S. border, where thousands of the Central American migrants have arrived after fleeing the effects of climate change.

Yeah, they’re economic migrants, but they’re really climate refugees,” says Robert Albro, a researcher American University who has studied the effects of climate change in Latin America. But “the politics around this is so toxic that it’s unlikely to have any kind of productive forward motion in the foreseeable future.”

“They usually don’t go after the first drought,” says Stephanie Leutert, director of the Mexico Security Initiative at the University of Texas at Austin. “But when the drought comes back and they don’t have many any more savings, they have do something.

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The notion that climate change could constitute a national emergency has won over many Democrats eager for ways to implement climate policy come 2020. For that reason, many Republicans have remained skeptical of Trump’s emergency declaration. “Today’s national emergency is border security,” said Senator Marco Rubio, a Florida Republican. “But a future president may use this exact same tactic to impose the Green New Deal.

Indeed, future Democrats may point to the migrant crisis to justify it.

Read more: http://time.com/5535086/trump-climate-change-national-emergency/

Even if the Latin American illegal immigrants pouring into the USA are climate refugees, how would building more wind turbines or solar panels help improve the situation?

People who see everything through the lens of climate change often seem so keen to grasp at tenuous policy “solutions” which promote their agenda, they’re happy to ignore real solutions which would provide far more immediate relief.

Surely a more immediate solution would be to improve border security, to stop dangerous criminals from sneaking into the country disguised as refugees, then help any countries afflicted by worsening droughts by providing food relief and improved water infrastructure.

Illegal immigration is a significant issue for US citizens and for the immigrants themselves. Seeing their plight as an opportunity to push the green agenda, while ignoring policy options which would provide immediate benefits, seems a little heartless.

Update (EW): Included the quote about droughts triggering the migrations

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Hugs
February 22, 2019 10:15 pm

‘The Real Culprit Behind Trump’s Border Emergency? Climate Change’

Rofl. For good. Doesn’t pass the smell test. Here’s a spoon for you, it’s yours.

February 22, 2019 10:23 pm

The best weapon against all of these “Climate Refugees” from both Africa and South America is called a Condom.

Then and only then should we use the World Bank to start digging for coal and then build the power stations.

MJE

Hugs
Reply to  Michael
February 23, 2019 3:32 am

Sorry buddy, but that’s both mean and imprecise. Most South America has already a fertility rate near two, and many refugees/aliens/immigrants from Africa that end up in Europe or the USA are from countries which have a decent fertility rate.

The places which suffer from mass emigration are more likely suffering from war, lack of hope for better future, nepotism, organized crime, and paternal family control. Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria as good examples. Many of these people don’t have any idea what they are doing when they pay €2,000 for a human trafficker who then leaves them to die in a sinking boat or similar.

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February 22, 2019 11:12 pm

They are refugees from socialism.

The Romans tried what we would call socialism in their collapse phase. It didn’t work. In fact it made things worse. Well, worse for the people. Better for the government.

The Collapse of Complex Societies by Joseph Tainter – pdf. The good stuff starts in Chapter 4.
https://wtf.tw/ref/tainter.pdf

https://youtu.be/GzuviYRse3E – about 3 minutes

The Collapse of Complex Societies – a Review
http://classicalvalues.com/2019/02/the-collapse-of-complex-societies/

Johann Wundersamer
Reply to  MSimon
February 23, 2019 12:55 am

Sorry, the Roman Empire didn’t collapse cause of “socialist reforms”.

But sure in the wake of murdering the “socialist reformer Gracchi Brothers”.

https://www.google.com/search?q=socialist+reformer+brothers+roman+empire&oq=socialist+reformer+brothers+roman+empire&aqs=chrome.

Rhys
Reply to  Johann Wundersamer
February 23, 2019 5:46 am

Your time frame is way off. The emporers Diocletian and Constantine in the 4th century A.D. instituted a government takeover of businesses, essentially socialism, which led to the decline of the Empire. The Roman Empire reached its height in the 2nd century during a period of free trade and low taxes. The brothers Gracchi lived 3 centuries earlier and a lot of their reforms were instituted by Julius Caesar

Johann Wundersamer
Reply to  MSimon
February 23, 2019 2:16 am

Not to mention – doing away with the “socialist reformer Gracchi Brothers” was the entrance for Christianity “love thy brother like thyself”

overwhelming “public success story”
conquering the whole of nowadays “Europe”.

February 22, 2019 11:49 pm

Despite the fact that many immigrants have a larger “carbon” footprint here than where they come from, the Sierra Club is OK with large scale immigration.

https://www.colorlines.com/articles/how-sierra-club-learned-love-immigration

Johann Wundersamer
February 22, 2019 11:49 pm

stop dangerous criminals from sneaking into the country disguised as refugees, then help any countries afflicted by worsening droughts by providing food relief and improved water infrastructure. –>

stop dangerous criminals from sneaking into the country disguised as refugees, -than- help any countries afflicted by worsening droughts by providing food relief and improved water infrastructure.

Regards –

Johann Wundersamer
February 22, 2019 11:54 pm

“Illegal immigration is a significant issue for US citizens and for the immigrants themselves. Seeing their plight as an opportunity to push the green agenda, while ignoring policy options which would provide immediate benefits, seems a little heartless.”

And absolutely counterproductive.

Bruce Cobb
February 23, 2019 4:28 am

Illegal immigrants are climate refugees space aliens. There, fixed.

BuckWheaton
February 23, 2019 4:51 am

The climate that creates so many refugees is far more from Islam than fromCO2.

Flight Level
February 23, 2019 5:15 am

Climate refugees exist. A crescent number of retired families escape brutal cold winters by relocating further south where Mediterranean climate is more clement and comes with less heating bills.

Rumors are that the increasing number of HR cargo are mostly those who elect to remain there until their final journey home.

William Astley
February 23, 2019 9:56 am

Time magazine has removed logic and reason from their articles and are hence on the side of idiot chaos. Money that is wasted is a tragedy.

What is the return on investment $ spent on green scams vs climate change stopped?

Worst how much poverty in the world has there been reduced by spending on green scams.

Illegal immigration is a very expensive and ineffective means to help the 62 million people in South America that live in extreme poverty.

https://www.cepal.org/en/pressreleases/poverty-latin-america-remained-steady-2017-extreme-poverty-increased-highest-level

In 2017, the number of people living in poverty reached 184 million (30.2% of the population), of whom 62 million live in extreme poverty (10.2% of the population, the highest percentage since 2008), according to the report, Social Panorama of Latin America 2018, presented this Tuesday by Alicia Bárcena, Executive Secretary of the United Nations regional organization, at a press conference held in Santiago, Chile.

Davis
February 23, 2019 10:19 am

Refugee or immigrant.

Neither gives you the right to just go by the thousands into someone else’s country.

rah
February 23, 2019 10:25 am

But but the IPCC in AR5 that Warm air can contain more water. This means that we can expect heavier rain in a warmer climate.

Robert of Ottawa
Reply to  rah
February 24, 2019 4:55 am

In Canada we don’t expect warmer weather because our Prime Minister, bless his cotton socks, BHCS, wants to introduce a carbon tax to stop it. Why he wants to keep Canada cold is beyond me.

MAKE CANADA WARM AGAIN!

Steve O
February 23, 2019 11:54 am

They’re refugees from the symptoms of the system that Time espouses — Socialism.

James R Clarke
February 23, 2019 4:40 pm

Why do articles that blame climate change never spell out how the climate has changed? It appears that ‘climate change’ is the only kind of ‘change’ that does not require anything too be different.

February 23, 2019 5:18 pm

While the use of some form of birth control may upset those who still believe in the Bibles, both of them. The simple facts are that the Rev. Maths was right. “When a species exceeds its food supply it dies”.

Today of course with the TV shots of a little girl with a swollen belly, we the once rich “West” are expected to provide aid. But the more aid we provide the more people will breed.

And the more will try for a home in the rich Western countries where by being on welfare they are far better off than back where they came from.

MJE

Robert of Ottawa
February 24, 2019 4:51 am

And global warming is all about the science, not the politics?

The Warmistas are evil followers of the evil Canadian Maurice Strong. They are evil money grubbing crony capitalists or evil power hungry ideologues. Criminally dishonest all.

[Irate mode off]

February 24, 2019 1:55 pm

Yes its ironical that the whole of the Green issue is a mix of greedy Capitalists and the top people who dream of a Communist world, Mark two.

The Politicians in their drive for a vote anywhere are of course the major problem,. Here in Australia we have the State of Victoria who despite the brown out in the electrical power a fee w weeks ago, are a green state.

So both the Liberal (Conservative) party, and the Labour have to say nice things to the Victorians, but then they go North to Queensland and have to say nice things to the people who want coal mining.

Its complicated even further in that Queensland who has a Labour Government, with the Premier saying nice things about a proposed coal mini, Adani, but the vice Premier being violently against that development.

Such is life in energy rich Australia, but as we have to show a good example to the rest of the world, despite our 1 % emissions, we have the dearest electricity.

MJE

WR2
February 24, 2019 7:36 pm

There is no longer any world problem that hasn’t been blamed on climate change. The answer to any problem is climate change, and the solution is always socialism. Of course the media don’t require any data or any correlation whatsoever, just an “expert” saying that “more of X is consistent with what is predicted due to climate change”. Critical reasoning skills are dead.