Gas Shortages Give New York an Early Taste of the Green New Deal

From The GWPF

Date: 2/16/19

The state is dependent on imports even though it sits atop the abundant Marcellus Shale.

The combination of hydraulic fracturing and horizontal drilling—sometimes known as the “shale revolution”—has enabled Texas, Pennsylvania and other states to produce record quantities of natural gas, some of which is being frozen, loaded onto giant ships, and transported to customers in places like Chile, China and India. Thanks to the environmental policies of Gov. Andrew Cuomo, New York has missed out on this windfall.

Now, in a preview of what life might be like under the Democrats’ proposed Green New Deal, some New Yorkers are about to face a natural-gas shortage. Consolidated Edison , an energy utility that provides gas and power to the New York City area, announced last month that beginning in mid-March it would “no longer be accepting applications for natural gas connections from new customers in most of our Westchester County service area.” The reason for the shortage is obvious: The Cuomo administration has repeatedly blocked or delayed new pipeline projects. As a Con Ed spokesman put it, there is a “lot of natural gas around the country, but getting it to New York has been the strain.”

New York policy makers have also killed the state’s natural-gas-drilling business. In 2008 New York drillers produced about 150 million cubic feet of natural gas a day—not enough to meet all the state’s needs, but still a substantial amount. That same year legislators in Albany passed a moratorium on hydraulic fracturing, the process used to wring oil and gas out of underground rock formations. In 2015 the Cuomo administration made the moratorium permanent. By 2018 New York’s gas production had declined so much that the Energy Information Administration quit publishing numbers on it.

New York now imports nearly all of its gas even though part of the Marcellus Shale, one of the biggest and most prolific sources of natural gas in the country, extends into the state’s Southern Tier region. To get an idea of how much gas the state might have been able to produce from the Marcellus, New Yorkers can look across the state line to Pennsylvania, which now supplies about two-thirds of the gas consumed in New York. At the end of 2018, Pennsylvania drillers were producing about 18 billion cubic feet of gas a day. That’s more gas than Canada now produces.

By keeping its natural gas in the ground, New York has lost out on jobs and tax revenue. By 2015, some 106,000 people were directly employed by Pennsylvania’s oil and gas industry, making it a bigger employer than the state’s famous steel sector. This year Pennsylvania’s state government is expected to take in some $247 million in gas-related fees.

New York’s government-imposed gas shortage will likely get worse. In April 2020, Entergy, the utility that owns Westchester’s Indian Point Energy Center, will permanently shutter one of the two reactors at the 2,069-megawatt nuclear facility. It will shut down the other reactor in April 2021. The closures are the result of low electricity prices and years of costly legal battles with environmental groups and state regulators. Indian Point supplies about 25% of the electricity consumed in New York City.

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n.n
February 16, 2019 6:07 pm

The Grey New Deal same as the original.

Reply to  n.n
February 17, 2019 5:08 am

Meet the New Deal-boss, same as the old Deal-boss.

ht The Who

Johann Wundersamer
Reply to  beng135
February 17, 2019 1:06 pm

Jim
Reply to  n.n
February 17, 2019 10:40 am

New York would have at least the same number of jobs as Amazon would have created without losing a single cent of tax revenue while enriching many thousands of basically poor rural upstate landowners and their tens of thousands of grandkids. And unlike Amazon, the majority of these jobs would have employed working class people who have high school diplomas or diplomas plus two.

Reply to  Jim
February 19, 2019 12:45 pm

Based on the author’s number of 18 billion CFD, and using a price of $4 per thousand CF, and the typical one-sixth (16.67%) production royalty, that would be about $12 million dollars per day to the PA land/mineral owners. Mostly farmers who can really use it. Thanks, New York!

Sweet Old Bob
February 16, 2019 6:07 pm

Too bad they can’t burn “stupid ” …..they would never run out of fuel .

Lance
Reply to  Sweet Old Bob
February 16, 2019 6:18 pm

Can’t fix Stupid!

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Lance
February 16, 2019 8:59 pm

Mores the point, you can’t tax stupid.

MarkW
Reply to  Patrick MJD
February 16, 2019 9:50 pm

I thought the lottery was for that?

Robert W. Turner
Reply to  Patrick MJD
February 17, 2019 7:05 am

It will probably turn out that by time some semblance of sanity returns to NY policy makers and they start tapping into the resource, NG will be back to $10/mcf by increased demand from electricity and LNG exports.

Serendipitously stupid.

John Endicott
Reply to  Patrick MJD
February 18, 2019 6:05 am

Mores the point, you can’t tax stupid.

You can: the lottery and Cigarette taxes as taxes the stupid come to mind.

Crispin in Waterloo
Reply to  Lance
February 17, 2019 3:53 am

There is no need to fix it, the supply is unending. The AOCene has begin.

Richard of NZ
Reply to  Crispin in Waterloo
February 17, 2019 2:07 pm

The Plasticine did not last long.

DeeDub
Reply to  Sweet Old Bob
February 16, 2019 6:55 pm

Nice one, SOB (my kind, for sure), made me laugh out loud.

Robert in Busan
Reply to  Sweet Old Bob
February 16, 2019 7:34 pm

“Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son.” Dean Wormer. Seems as if Gov. Cuomo has completed one-third of the equation.

Sara
Reply to  Sweet Old Bob
February 17, 2019 4:49 am

So I guess NYC and its environs will return to horse-drawn transportation, oil lamps (perish the thought!) for lighting, and no snow plowing in the streets? This should awesome!

R. Groven
Reply to  Sara
February 17, 2019 6:57 am

Nope. Horses produce methane, same as cows. Just gonna have to hike.

Sara
Reply to  Sara
February 17, 2019 8:43 am

Yeah, I can really see New Yawkers doing that!! Seriously!

H.R.
Reply to  Sara
February 17, 2019 1:53 pm

Whale oil lamps, Sara. It’s renewable. Maybe some go-getter will jump-start whale farming.

Oh, and you don’t have to kill the whales. Just bring ’em in from time to time for liposuction, then turn ’em back out onto the farm.

(Doh! I shouldn’t have written that. There are enough stupid ideas out there as it is.)

Taylor Pohlman
Reply to  H.R.
February 18, 2019 12:58 pm

Whale farming in the Great Lakes! Renewable resource meets tourist attraction – what could go wrong…

Reply to  H.R.
February 19, 2019 12:47 pm

Too late. Sixteen federal grants to study this have just been approved.

February 16, 2019 6:11 pm

They’re lucky it doesn’t get cold in NYC.

….. oh, hold on a sec.

Reply to  philinwetcalifornia
February 17, 2019 12:23 pm

I wonder if some upstate New Yorkers would be interested in making their
own state like the Jefferson folks in California. Then they could drill baby drill.

February 16, 2019 6:13 pm

I live in the mountains of Colorado. My utility, Xcel energy, supplies both my natural gas and electricity and recently announced a green energy initiative. 80% carbon free by 2030, 100% carbon free by 2050. Up until this point Xcel has been very reliable and reasonably priced. Now they are virtue signaling and I have to worry about freezing.

R Shearer
Reply to  Tommyboy
February 16, 2019 6:37 pm
MarkW
Reply to  R Shearer
February 16, 2019 9:51 pm

Better be a big stream. The mountains of CO get cold in the winter.

R Shearer
Reply to  MarkW
February 17, 2019 2:02 pm

The key is continuous flow. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3pS_RVqVi8

michael hart
February 16, 2019 6:16 pm

I knew there was something good about being born in Pennsylvania.

yarpos
Reply to  michael hart
February 16, 2019 8:56 pm

I went to Wilkes Barre for a week one day

I am sure there are lovely parts of Pennsylvania. I just didnt get to see them.

kent beuchert
Reply to  yarpos
February 17, 2019 7:20 am

Pennsylvania is a very large state. It has just about every kind of living environment that exists. Ever hear of Frank Lloyd Wright’s Falling Water – the most famous house of the 20th century? Well, it sits in a beautiful location in Pennsylvania.

John F. Hultquist
Reply to  michael hart
February 16, 2019 9:48 pm

Michael,
How old are you?
“. . . something good about being born in Pennsylvania.”

The opportunity to leave. I did in 1965.
Now our house is 100% electric via dams on the Great Columbia River.

Darrin
Reply to  John F. Hultquist
February 19, 2019 7:16 am

Except the greenies want to rip those dams out…I’m tempted to agree with them, washing Portland down to the pacific with a big flood would solve a lot of the states issues. Oops, never mind. I forgot that the survivors would insist the rest of us Oregonians rebuild Portland bigger and better and what Portland wants, Portland gets no matter how much it hurts the rest of the state.

markl
February 16, 2019 6:19 pm

So NY has doubled down on “lets see how much we can hurt our constituents and not only make it look like it’s someone else’s fault but claim to be the solution”.

Henry chance
February 16, 2019 6:22 pm

Just about every source of energy faces adversarial litigation even sustainable energy. I suspect NY fights against pipelines.

I am sure AOC is working on solutions.

John F. Hultquist
Reply to  Henry chance
February 16, 2019 9:51 pm

Henry,
Search with: New York Gov. Cuomo Rejects pipelines

Alan Robertson
February 16, 2019 6:26 pm

We learn from our suffering.

Hocus Locus
Reply to  Alan Robertson
February 16, 2019 6:32 pm

So THAT’S why I’m so smart! Thanks.

mwhite
Reply to  Alan Robertson
February 17, 2019 1:06 am

You’d like to think so, but they don’t seem to have put 2 and 2 together in Australia yet.

James Fosser
Reply to  mwhite
February 17, 2019 12:29 pm

Keep watching . Shortly we are going to have a Labor government (Democrats to you). Already hundreds of people smugglers are readying to bring thousands of economic illegals (with embedded terrorists) to Australia as Labor has already given them the green light (And these illegals will all vote for Labor).

Reply to  James Fosser
February 19, 2019 12:50 pm

You mean the current AU government is your version of a CONSERVATIVE administration? Yikes!

Barbara
Reply to  Alan Robertson
February 17, 2019 10:07 am

I’d rather learn from THEIR suffering, Alan.

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  Barbara
February 19, 2019 8:01 am

As my daddy used to say, “Learn from OTHER people’s mistakes. It costs less and doesn’t hurt near as much”. I am most frequently reminded of his advice when I fail to follow it. 😀

John Endicott
Reply to  Alan Robertson
February 18, 2019 6:27 am

We (the sane non-lefties) do, lefties not so much (just look at all the failed socialist/communist states and then look at how the lefties still keep pushing the proven failed ideology of socialism/communism)

Enginer01
February 16, 2019 6:31 pm

Not Off Topic—-
Climate Conference in Poland…
https://www.stockholmresilience.org/research/research-news/2017-11-13-the-10-science-must-knows-on-climate-change.html
As a Registered Profession Chemical Engineer, this is fascinating – particularly the references to LENR

R Shearer
Reply to  Enginer01
February 16, 2019 6:43 pm

10 out of 10 on the B.S. scale.

Alan Robertson
Reply to  R Shearer
February 16, 2019 7:55 pm

You’re right, it’s complete nonsense with zero science.
Some thing never change.

Malcolm Carter
Reply to  Enginer01
February 16, 2019 7:00 pm

Looks like they got 0 out of 10.

Greg Cavanagh
Reply to  Malcolm Carter
February 16, 2019 11:15 pm

Not bad for a university (Stockholm). They did indeed get 0 out of 10.

Unfortunately they didn’t date their blog post, and the download “statement” is also undated. Even
Johan​ ​Rockström and Amy​​ Luers’s document is undated. They do quote the IPCC 2017.

Why can’t people date their documents? Are they afraid they might come back to haunt them?

Reply to  Enginer01
February 17, 2019 4:27 am

As a chemical engineer you should know every point of the 10 is rubbish. These people have no understanding of the engineering subjects which they regard as science. They have no understanding of Heat &Mass transfer, Thermodynamics, Fluid Dynamics, Reaction Kinetics, Process control, Instruments and Measurements, Statistics, Dimensional Analysis, Cost Estimation, Present Worth etc. Also, unlike registered Professional Engineers they do not have a code of Ethics which requires them to not provide a service outside their area of qualification, experience and knowledge. As they have no knowledge they should keep their thoughts and actions to themselves.

Sara
Reply to  cementafriend
February 17, 2019 4:55 am

Oh, but Virtue Signaling!!! Gotta have that at all costs!!! Think they’ll enjoy it when their indoor temps drop to the low 40s (F, not C)??

Gary Ashe
Reply to  Enginer01
February 17, 2019 7:44 am

Was that satire ?

1. Much evidence suggests that the planet has entered a new geologic epoch—called the Anthropocene. The rate of change of the Earth system is accelerating as a result of humans’ impact on the planet’s biology, chemistry, and physics. Earth’s climate has been remarkably stable since before the dawn of civilization. This stability is at risk.

2. Earth is approaching critical “tipping points”. By crossing these thresholds, the planet may see abrupt, and possibly irreversible, shifts in the workings of the Arctic, Amazon, and other parts of the globe.

3. The record-breaking 2017 Atlantic hurricane season provides a glimpse at the increased risks of extreme weather events that the planet may experience in the future. These events include severe flooding, heat waves and droughts.

4. Changes are occurring quickly in the ocean, with accelerating sea-level rise and ocean acidification.

5. The economic costs of climate change are already being felt, and some of the world’s poorest nations are bearing the heaviest burden.

6. Climate change will have a profound impact on human health by placing new pressures on the food and water security in nations around the world.

7. Climate change is likely to exacerbate migration, civil unrest and even conflict. In 2015, more than 19 million people globally were displaced by natural disasters and extreme weather events, and climate change will likely cause that number to grow.

8. The world needs to act fast: If humans continue to emit greenhouse gases at current rates, the remaining carbon budget to reduce risk of exceeding the 2 degrees Celsius target will be exhausted in around 20 years. Emissions should peak by 2020 and approach zero by around 2050 if the world is serious about reducing risk. As a simple rule of thumb, this means halving global emissions every decade.

9. A fossil-fuel free society is economically attractive: renewable energy sources increasingly compete with fossil fuels, even when these are priced at historic lows. Moreover, the estimated costs of inaction range from 2-10% of GDP by 2100 by some estimates, to a fall in projected global output by 23% in 2100 in others.

10. Even if the world meets the Paris Agreement targets, communities across the globe will still need to build resilience and adapt to the changes already under way.

John G
Reply to  Gary Ashe
February 17, 2019 11:07 am

Much evidence suggest that the world is colder now than anytime since (and including) the time of the dinosaurs. Here is a chart that plots the CO2 levels and the temperature since the dinosaurs:

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Notice that the CO2 is very low now (compared to that whole stretch of time) so that even the largest imagined increase in CO2 could not replicate the temperatures back when the CO2 was much higher and the temperature was much hotter even if the theory was completely correct. The laws of chemistry and physics haven’t changed in those 65 million years so it’s ridiculous to assume the world will die of heat exhaustion from these (relatively) recent minuscule changes in atmospheric CO2 content. In fact the chart pretty much proves that CO2 and atmospheric temperature are not related.

William
Reply to  Gary Ashe
February 17, 2019 3:19 pm

The world was MUCH warmer in the past 100000 years without triggering the positive feedback of tropspheric heating from water vapor required by catastrophic global warming. The positive feedback loop therefore does not exist. You have been duped.

Reply to  Enginer01
February 17, 2019 7:59 am

I love this statement “Earth’s climate has been remarkably stable since before the dawn of civilization. This stability is at risk.”

We are now being told that the ice ages were mythical.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Brooks Hurd
February 17, 2019 8:40 am

Ice Ages? What Ice Ages? Do you have pictures? Were you there to see this alleged “ice age”?

Kaiser Derden
Reply to  Brooks Hurd
February 17, 2019 4:07 pm

human civilization has only existed since the last ice age receded … but the climate HAS NOT been remarkably stable in the time … it has moved in fits and starts from an ice age towards not an ice age (the only 2 global climates) …

TwoLetterIdentifier
Reply to  Enginer01
February 17, 2019 3:12 pm

I love their 10 ‘science’ “must knows”, all of which are blatantly false.

Enginer01
February 16, 2019 6:34 pm

background of Polish Conference reference

Now Time to Bring LENR Energy Into the Climate Change Debate
Posted on February 17, 2019 • 2 Comments
The following post was originally published here on this new website — https://lenr-energy.info — , and is reposted here by permission.

Recently took place the 24th UNF Climate Change Conference in Katowice, Poland and after difficult negotiations, a long list of new decisions was finally adopted.

see https://e-catworld.com/2019/02/17/now-time-to-bring-lenr-energy-into-the-climate-change-debate/

R Shearer
Reply to  Enginer01
February 16, 2019 6:47 pm

E-scamworld is not a reliable source. As a CH E you should be able to see through it.

Enginer01
Reply to  R Shearer
February 16, 2019 7:02 pm

The coulomb barrier is “apparently” overcome by plasmas in the context of certain LENR chemistries. It will be interesting to watch…

JEHill
Reply to  Enginer01
February 16, 2019 7:59 pm

The coulomb barrier can only be over come with brute force. There are no tricks. It takes MeV’s to overcome. The more massive the nucleus the more MeV’s you need.

Plasmas generally are exited electrons in a gas matrix, not nearly massive enough, perhaps in keV range. And if you are igniting your plasma with protons that is one helluva an upkeep and startup cost.

Ian Macdonald
Reply to  JEHill
February 17, 2019 12:15 am

Your info is way off. It only requires about 10keV of electrostatic acceleration to overcome the barrier between D-D and allow fusion.

The really difficult way to do this is by heating, since the equivalent temperature to 10keV of kinetic energy is in the silly figures range where the sun looks like a real cool place by comparison. Yet, this is the way usually attempted, with predictable lack of success.

Anyway, this is hot fusion. LENR may involve a totally different mechanism.

Besides, while there may be LENR scams around, that does not invalidate the science, which has been tested thoroughly enough to prove that the effect exists. -Does the fact that magnet motors are a scam, mean that we shouldn’t use magnets in motors?

Reply to  R Shearer
February 17, 2019 4:47 am

Agree- todate Rossi has proved nothing, Anyway if a plasma is involved it is not low energy. There have been some MHD generators see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetohydrodynamic_generator
(note that is Chemical engineering)

Enginer01
Reply to  cementafriend
February 18, 2019 6:42 am

I’ve noted before the Electric Sun concept (eg The Saffire Project) see https://www.electricuniverse.info/safire-project/

The people developing this have gone silent, after major discoveries. Seems like a project devoted to separating the concept of a fusion Sun from a plasma Sun may have morphed into “Holly Cow! We may have something commercial here!” Not LENR nor fusion, more like energy-releasing transmutations. Makes you winch at $$$ spent on Tokamaks

R Shearer
Reply to  Enginer01
February 16, 2019 7:01 pm
M__ S__
February 16, 2019 6:35 pm

It’s the nature of hair shirts to give discomfort. At least those in NY will receive what they want.

lord garth
February 16, 2019 6:39 pm

call it the Green Leap Forward

that annoys the lefties a lot

Gary from Chicagoland
February 16, 2019 6:42 pm

Politics change through time, so wait long enough and fracking will occur in NY.

Bill
February 16, 2019 6:56 pm

I’m sure you are aware of this Ronnie classic…: The most terrifying words you can hear…”We are from the Government and we are here to help.” The idiots in the socialist Govs move heaven and earth to fix non-existent problems and wont move a finger to fix impending disasters. See brush clearing to prevent forest fires and the border wall just to name a couple of obvious recent issues.
This is because they are insane…we have the same vermin in Australia believe me, same shit, different ass-holes.

John W. Garrett
February 16, 2019 6:57 pm

Good.

Sooner or later, New York is going to learn a very hard lesson— the sooner the better.

February 16, 2019 7:01 pm

They aren’t worried. They fully expect to have the climate of Miami Beach by 2021. SMH.

They will learn that ignorance, too, can be a dish served cold.

February 16, 2019 7:08 pm

From the article: “By keeping its natural gas in the ground, New York has . . .”

Well, depending on the average porosity of the Marcellus Shale formation, that natural gas underneath the state of New York might just be flowing into the neighboring state of Pennsylvania where is it being extracted, thus creating an underground pressure differential.

I’m sure the citizens of Pennsylvania appreciate the gift.

Reply to  Gordon Dressler
February 16, 2019 8:02 pm

By definition , shale is very low permeability …. there isn’t any NY gas going to Penn, except maybe within a few 1000 ft of the border

Taylor Pohlman
Reply to  Gordon Dressler
February 18, 2019 1:09 pm

I think the relevant question is to what distance can you horizontally drill? Early slant drilling could tap your neighbor’s pool of oil. Could horizontal drilling snake all New York’s gas? Inquiring Pennsylvania neighbors want to know!

February 16, 2019 7:23 pm

The combination of hydraulic fracturing and horizontal drilling—sometimes known as the “shale revolution”—has enabled Texas, Pennsylvania and other states to produce record quantities of natural gas, some of which is being frozen, loaded onto giant ships, and transported to customers in places like Chile, China and India.

.. Texas, Pennsylvania and other states … That means other countries too. So nice business while Chile, China, India and ….. are willing to buy it rather than frack for it. And I doubt that the the Green Mafia has much clout in China and India.

yarpos
Reply to  steve case
February 16, 2019 8:59 pm

you get to run out of gas first, just like Australia

massive reserves all sold overseas

jac roonco
Reply to  steve case
February 16, 2019 9:06 pm

For low permeability shale fracking to be economic, a very narrow range of shale characteristics must exist. There may be a lot of shale formations in the world, but only a few are economic for gas production via extended reach drilling and massive well bore fracking. Because of the infrastructure required to support extended reach drilled and fracked wells, the USA is the world leader for many years to come.

Editor
Reply to  jac roonco
February 16, 2019 9:20 pm

The American experience with shale gas is mostly because much of the developed land is private, and the owners of the surface rights get royalties. This encouraged rapid development, and this resulted in more innovation and infrastructure.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Les Johnson
February 17, 2019 4:18 am

The American shale gas revolution is what the free market will do for you.

Who in the world could seriously argue against a free market? Deluded Socialsts, that’s who.

ResourceGuy
February 16, 2019 7:24 pm

Can’t wait.

clipe
February 16, 2019 7:49 pm
February 16, 2019 8:04 pm

Maybe New York can do a deal on an extension of the Russian Nordstream-2 pipeline to Germany. How do these bozos running New York show virtue by burning outsourced gas instead of their own. Out of ‘site’ out of mind, particularly ‘out of mind’ I would say. There must be something in the water in New York.

Gee folks, the party you vote for is not the one you think it is, even though the name is unchanged. They’ve out sourced their constituency, too. You vote for them and they fund a Eurocentric global marxy-sparxy governance. People used to reject a bad government but today, governments are rejecting their people (idea better expressed by Mark Steyn- anyone got the quote?).

John Pickens
Reply to  Gary Pearse
February 16, 2019 8:48 pm

Already happening, due to New York state blocking gas pipelines from Pennsylvania and South, New England is now importing Russian LNG (liquified natural gas).

From the Washington Post:

By Steven Mufson January 28, 2018
A tanker carrying liquefied natural gas from a sanctioned project in Russia’s Arctic has arrived in Boston Harbor, where it will be offloaded for American users.

A recent cold snap in New England and the shortage of pipeline capacity from gas-rich Pennsylvania have created an appetite for natural gas imports even as the United States has begun exporting LNG from other terminals on the Gulf Coast. Earlier this month, some utilities resorted to burning relatively costly oil to meet demand.

From the

Krudd Gillard of
Reply to  John Pickens
February 16, 2019 9:41 pm

Absolutely hilarious. They sold the uranium to the Russians, now they buy Russian gas.

What can you say?

Reply to  Krudd Gillard of
February 17, 2019 8:49 am

A Canadian company that owned mines in Kazakhstan was sold to a Russian company, Kazakhstan produces about 40% of the world’s uranium. Who’s the ‘they’ you speak of?

MarkW
Reply to  Phil.
February 17, 2019 2:11 pm

The they are the Clintons, and the Uranium was American.

Keith Sketchley
Reply to  Phil.
February 17, 2019 2:20 pm

1) No American uranium was sold to Russia
2) The Clintons didn’t sell anything.

Michael Jankowski
Reply to  Phil.
February 17, 2019 4:26 pm

As secretary of state, Clinton did serve on a government board that ultimately approved a transfer of uranium to Russian Rosatom via the sale of Uranium One, which had roughly 20% of the US production capacity of uranium at the time (i.e., sale of American uranium). And the Clinton Foundation did receive $145 million from nine individuals involved in the transaction. Leading up to that approval, the US gov’t had gathered substantial evidence that Rosatom had been using bribery, extortion, kickbacks, and money laundering with the intent of growing Russian atomic energy business within the US.

Keith Sketchley
Reply to  Phil.
February 17, 2019 4:47 pm

Michael, the CFIUS was an advisory board only, it’s decision was not binding, nor could it veto the decision. The decision rested solely with the POTUS. In addition to Clintion there were eight other members who held cabinet level postions in the administration. All nine agencies gave their approval. The CFIUS did NOT approve of the transfer of any uranium to Russia. Only the NRC can do that by issuing an export license. The CFIUS ruled on the investment in company only.
..
Now the $131 million of your $145 million came from Frank Giustra who sold off his stake in Uranium One three years before the transaction and a year and a half before Hilary became SOS.

Again, no uranium was transferred from the USA to Russia.

Facts are facts.

WXcycles
Reply to  John Pickens
February 17, 2019 1:40 am

The exchange rate makes it cheaper to source

Taylor Pohlman
Reply to  John Pickens
February 18, 2019 1:13 pm

This New York “blockade” drove Maine Governor LePage crazy. He tried for years to get a pipeline built to get Penn gas up here.

Louisa
February 16, 2019 8:14 pm

The Democrat Party is the Voyager – it left the solar system.

Dems will find out in 2020 what the USA outside of New Rochelle thinks of them. I’m so glad I moved out of that dump, New York State, years ago.

BobBuchanan
February 16, 2019 8:21 pm

Not frozen, but liquified.

Len Jay
February 16, 2019 8:31 pm

New York, New York, it’s a wonderful town!

First you allow the murder of newborn babies.
Next you discourage Amazon from bringing in jobs and prosperity.
Now it’s importing natural gas amidst plenty of your own.

Can’t wait for what’s next!

February 16, 2019 9:27 pm

Re. Enginer. ” After difficult negotiations””. So what were the difficulties, was it the 3rd World countries still trying to get more money from the previously rich Western nations. ?

MJE