Guest whatever by David Middleton
The New Language of Climate Change
Scientists and meteorologists on the front lines of the climate wars are testing a new strategy to get through to the skeptics and outright deniers.
By BRYAN BENDER January 27, 2019
PHOENIX—Leading climate scientists and meteorologists are banking on a new strategy for talking about climate change: Take the politics out of it.
That means avoiding the phrase “climate change,” so loaded with partisan connotations as it is. Stop talking about who or what is most responsible. And focus instead on what is happening and how unusual it is—and what it is costing communities.
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That was a main takeaway at the American Meteorological Society’s annual meeting this month, where top meteorologists and environmental scientists…
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The hope is to persuade the small but powerful minority that stands in the way of new policies to mitigate climate change’s worst long-term effects—as well as the people who vote for them—that something needs to be done or their own livelihoods and health will be at stake.
The new language taking root is meant to instill this sense of urgency about what is happening in ways to which everyday citizens can relate—without directly blaming it on human activity…
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“Is it humans or is it not? We really need to get beyond that,” Bernadette Woods Placky, an Emmy award-winning meteorologist who directs the Climate Matters program at Climate Central, told me.
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“They see it firsthand,” Robert Mark Simpson, a professor of geography at the University of Tennessee at Martin, told me. “There is a sort of acknowledgment that the climate is changing. They just don’t think humans are that impactful. [They think blaming humans is] a conspiracy to overthrow the U.S. economy.”
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I asked Grandy that question. He believes recognition is just Step One and hopes that once doubters see climate change as the dire threat it is, it will be easier for them to get on board with the only solutions believed to be able to rein it in: phasing out fossil fuels and scaling back our carbon footprint.
After all, he said, climate change “is happening whether they like it or not. If they ignore it, it is still going to happen.”
I’m not sure if I excerpted the dumbest or least dumbest bits of this article. There’s not much dynamic range between the dumbest and least dumbest bits.
I got a big kick out of this… “Scientists *and* meteorologists”… Aren’t meteorologists scientists? I’m pretty sure they are, except for the meteorologists quoted in this article.
Then there’s this… “avoiding the phrase ‘climate change’”… Weren’t these same people vilifying President Trump and several Republican governors for doing exactly that? Avoiding the phrase “climate change”???
“Is it humans or is it not? We really need to get beyond that”… WTF??? We’ve been telling you that for decades…
“[They think blaming humans is] a conspiracy to overthrow the U.S. economy”… Nonsense! It’s a conspiracy to overthrow all capitalist economies, not just the U.S. …
“This is probably the most difficult task we have ever given ourselves, which is to intentionally transform the economic development model, for the first time in human history”, Ms Figueres stated at a press conference in Brussels.
“This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period of time to change the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the industrial revolution. That will not happen overnight and it will not happen at a single conference on climate change, be it COP 15, 21, 40 – you choose the number. It just does not occur like that. It is a process, because of the depth of the transformation.”
Do these “scientists and meteorologists” really think that all they need to do is to redefine the language?
This one is priceless…
“[I]t will be easier for them to get on board with the only solutions believed to be able to rein it in: phasing out fossil fuels and scaling back our carbon footprint.”
— Jim Gandy, chief meteorologist for the CBS affiliate in Columbia, S.C.
Hey Jimbo! How did you get from Columbia SC to Phoenix AZ? Did you walk? Did you ride a bicycle? Did you drive a 100% electric vehicle, powered by 100% Unicorn farts?
Regarding phasing out fossil fuels…
Phasing out fossil fuels?
Years ago Al Gore wrote his first new-agey book, when first starting his dire predictions. He used apocalytic Christian and Buddhist writings, making dire warnings. Essentially pretending he was well versed in religion.
One example was his use of the Mahayana Buddhist “Lotus Sutra, ” quoting from chapter 5, which Theroux and the transcendentalist had published in their publication “The Dial.” Magazine, long ago.
As a very knowledgable person about the meanings of the “Lotus Sutra,” i was surprised to see a politician, quoting it. But, his meaning and interpretation was totally, manipulative and essentially an heretical interpretation, which completly missed the point of the term, “ESHO FUNI.” (Japanese) Funi, means inseparability and Esho means all living beings and their environment, especially human beings.
Gore took this to propagandize his “end of the world-unless we extract money from all tax payers- worldwide.
The truth is the “Esho Funi,” has nothing to with shallow thinking and carbon tax and all the paranoid thinking. In fact in Buddhism there is a parable called, “The sound the hare heard,” (the origin of the ” Chicken Little”) story, which ridicules faithless paranoids who cause people to panic over an impending apocalypse.
The principle of Esho Funi, means the stability of the environment, involving climate, natural disasters, fertility of soil, adequate, but not too much rain, etc. is a direct reflection of the cumulative, actual, inner life state of human beings.
“Lifestates,” in Buddhism refer to momentary life moments that contain by mutual possession, a range from Hell, Hunger, Animality, Anger, humaness, Rapture, Learning, Self Realization, Merciful Bodhisattva, and Buddhood. These are possessed by all beings moment by moment and essentially refers to the Supreme Law of Cause and Effect (karma) as taught in the Lotus Sutra, which is the “Wonderful Sutra of the Law of Cause and Effect.”
The Sutra means that FAITH is the entry to salvation and happiness of all beings, not dwellng in the lower life states.
So the stability of the environment is dictated by causes made by the body, mouth and mnd and the bad effects people receive, collectively or individually, is entirely faith based, not external manipulation., which causally always fails, amounting to Slander of the Supreme Law, the worst cause of all. Using scripture to manipulate people politically, is a severely negative cause. To use scripture to extract money from people is the cause of slander.
Paradoxically, there was a top , Lay Buddhist leader, Daisaku Ikeda, in Japan, who , in the late 60’s beyond enamored by the Club Of Rome and Count Coudenhove Kalergi, (including a book written with Kalergi, never published in english, and became involved in the NGO, Globalist movement). Ikeda’s sincere followers, (40 million ) were gradually tricked into his decidedly heretical ideas, turning the Buddhist organization into a political vote getting machine in Japan (Komeito party) and causing the biggest schism, ever in the History of Buddhism.
Today.
Years ago Al Gore wrote his first new-agey book, when first starting his dire predictions. He used apocalytic Christian and Buddhist writings, making dire warnings. Essentially pretending he was well versed in religion.
One example was his use of the Mahayana Buddhist “Lotus Sutra, ” quoting from chapter 5, which Theroux and the transcendentalist had published in their publication “The Dial.” Magazine, long ago.
As a very knowledgable person about the meanings of the “Lotus Sutra,” i was surprised to see a politician, quoting it. But, his meaning and interpretation was totally, manipulative and essentially an heretical interpretation, which completly missed the point of the term, “ESHO FUNI.” (Japanese) Funi, means inseparability and Esho means all living beings and their environment, especially human beings.
Gore took this to propagandize his “end of the world-unless we extract money from all tax payers- worldwide.
The truth is the “Esho Funi,” has nothing to with shallow thinking and carbon tax and all the paranoid thinking. In fact in Buddhism there is a parable called, “The sound the hare heard,” (the origin of the ” Chicken Little”) story, which ridicules faithless paranoids who cause people to panic over an impending apocalypse.
The principle of Esho Funi, means the stability of the environment, involving climate, natural disasters, fertility of soil, adequate, but not too much rain, etc. is a direct reflection of the cumulative, actual, inner life state of human beings.
“Lifestates,” in Buddhism refer to momentary life moments that contain by mutual possession, a range from Hell, Hunger, Animality, Anger, humaness, Rapture, Learning, Self Realization, Merciful Bodhisattva, and Buddhood. These are possessed by all beings moment by moment and essentially refers to the Supreme Law of Cause and Effect (karma) as taught in the Lotus Sutra, which is the “Wonderful Sutra of the Law of Cause and Effect.”
The Sutra means that FAITH is the entry to salvation and happiness of all beings, not dwelling in the lower life states.
So the stability of the environment is dictated by causes made by the body, mouth and mnd and the bad effects people receive, collectively or individually, is entirely faith based, not external manipulation., which causally always fails, amounting to Slander of the Supreme Law, the worst cause of all. Using scripture to manipulate people politically, is a severely negative cause. To use scripture to extract money from people is the cause of slander.
Paradoxically, there was a top , Lay Buddhist leader, Daisaku Ikeda, in Japan, who , in the late 60’s became enamored by the Club Of Rome and Count Coudenhove Kalergi, (including a book written with Kalergi, never published in english, and became involved in the NGO, Globalist movement). Ikeda’s sincere followers, (40 million at the time ) were gradually tricked into his decidedly heretical ideas, turning the Buddhist organization into a political vote getting machine in Japan (Komeito party) and causing the biggest schism, ever in the History of Buddhism. Instead of being a Buddhist, Ikeda turned out to be a Marxist, Globalist, seeking fame and power. Club of Rome and the Globalists and Gore, saw Ikeda with controls of many billions, a a source of funds. Ikeda saw it as an opportunity, to obtain, more worldwide control.
What do climate scientists call climate change caused by natural causes?
How can science prove anything if two fldifferent phenomenon have the same name.
In effect climate science is saying 1=a and 2=a, then saying 97% of climate scientists agree a=1.
Its the destruction of the environment. There’s no need to look for any other cause.
If you destroy your life support system you life support system starts to fail.
It is really simple. I KNOW socialism will kill me, but I am pretty sure I can work around the global warming problem, so I choose global warming.
Its the destruction of the environment
how is additional plant food (CO2 which plants thrive on) destroying the environment? If anything it’s making the environment better (for example the Sahara is becoming greener with more plant life).
“Human caused or not”….
Makes no difference… because EVEN IF WE BELIEVE THEIR (scientifically unsupportable) NUMBERS….and WE WASTE $50 TRILLION to $80 TRILLION… the temperatures would only be reduced by 0.1 C by the end of the century.
It isn’t about climate…it is about control by those with illegitimate power and NOT with good intentions.
“This is probably the most difficult task we have ever given ourselves, which is to intentionally transform the economic development model, for the first time in human history”, Ms Figueres stated at a press conference in Brussels.
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Brussels today has other problems than
Ms Figueres press conferences.
https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-samsung&ei=519SXM6yIpGckgWrkKH4Bw&q=Brussels+law+enforcement++criminal+clans+&oq=Brussels+law+enforcement++criminal+clans+&gs_l=mobile-gws-wiz-serp.
And germany has other priorities than
Ms Figueres press conferences:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/german-police-arrest-3-suspected-of-extremist-bomb-plot/
“once doubters see climate change as the dire threat it is, it will be easier for them to get on board with the only solutions believed to be able to rein it in”
Thank God for the eco wackos who have taken charge of nature such that they are now the operators of the planet. They will decide how the current interglacial should evolve and when if ever the next glaciation should arrive.
Too bad they weren’t around in the Eemian. They might have prevented the ice sheet collapse and sea level rise horror of that interglacial.
https://tambonthongchai.com/2018/12/21/eemian/
This baffle gab reminds me of that amusing claim of a few years ago,as to how difficult it was to discuss solutions to man made climate change with sceptics..
Because those sceptics were hung up on the science,demanding evidence of manmade warming of all things.
And how sad it was that the concerned ones solutions were ignored by these sceptics and their pesky demands for scientific evidence.
I compare the CO2 banishers to a drunk peeing from a roof top,while demanding those below acknowledge that “It be raining”.
For they have that very same level of arrogance.
“It’s a conspiracy to overthrow all capitalist economies”
And yet it was pushed into international politics by a supporter of capitalism, Margaret Thatcher.
The arrogance of the CAGW activists has reached a new level. There support teams are now so comfortable, because they have the BBC, CNN, ABC etc, and most of the publications across the globe within their control.
No article is allowed to be published these days about any subject, that fails to weave in Global Warming caused by human CO2 emissions.
The confidence level is such we now have politicians employed by the UN, telling the world, “the mission is clear, we must take down capitalism”. We must change the rules of society, we must stop using fossil fuel (i.e. cheap accessible) energy.
It will not be long before the propagandists such as the BBC and the Guardian persuade all other media outlets to ban any publication or article that challenges AGW or Man Made Climate Change. Both organisations have stated, banning those who disagree with the corporation’s view, is now policy. For the BBC/Guardian the debate will not be allowed to be held, they have decided the science is settled, they have decreed, only those who agree with us will be published or allowed on air.
The next step is to challenge the right of scientists to speak authoritatively about the subject. The religion of AGW will ultimately imprison those who speak against their core belief.
Hate crime knows no boundaries, it is already on the statute book here in the UK.
You have been warned, totalitarianism did not die with the collapse of the USSR.
Last name I saw was “GLOBAL WAMING”
I really think we should all get behind this. 😉
Margart Thather was having a all out war with the minors union, who want to and nearly succeeded , to destroy the UK economy, necessary before introducing Communsism,
She wanted to use Nuclear, opposed at that time by the Greens, so tried to frighten people with the danger of CO2.
It backfirted, although she did win her war against the Union.
If you want to blame any one person or group for this myth, what about Racial Carson and her book “Silent Spring”, then of course “The Club of Rome”.
Or even as far back as Saul of Tarsus , later St. Paul, who took the story of a young preacher one Jesus of Gallalee and completely changed his Jesus preachings to what suited Sauls warped ideas.
The present day myth of the End of the World has many Fathers.
MJE
You ain’t as smart as you seem to wish.
Orwell had a name for what these climate consensus promoters are up to:
Newspeak
Everyone is scared of anything! That’s why the alarmists are so successful. They serve our general anxiety and focus it on our suspected contribution to the suspected global warming. Whether or not there is a real reason for this fear does not matter.
My error, one Jessus, or Yesus was the first born son of Joseph and Mary, from Nazerouth. what was then Roman Palestina.
MJE
Because since crank alarmist Paul Ehrlich’s viciously misogynistic “Population Bomb” in 1968 deviant Warmist sociopaths have hewn relentlessly to death-eating One World Order totalitarian despotism, the following strictly factual reprise doth bear repeating:
From Pliocene times throughout our early Pleistocene Era from 2.6 mm years-before-present (YBP), Earth’s plate tectonic dispositions have driven periodic global Ice Ages averaging 102 kiloyears, interspersed with median 12,250-year interglacial epochs such as the Holocene from c. 14,400 YBP (BC 12,400).
On this basis, given the 1,500 year cometary/meteoritic Younger Dryas “cold shock” from BC 10,950 – 9,450, Earth’s Holocene Interglacial Epoch ended 12,250+3,500-14,400 = AD 1350, coincident with Kamchatka’s strato-volcano Kambalny Eruption precipitating a 500-year Little Ice Age (LIA) through 1850/1890. Ending the 500-year Medieval Warm, historian Barbara Tuchman calls this “catastrophic 14th Century” the era “when God slept”.
As “amplitude compression” –extremes vary inversely with time-series’ frequency and wavelength– reflects the current 140-year LIA rebound to c. AD 2030 amidst a pending 70-year Grand Solar Minimum similar to that of 1645 – 1715, reducing cyclical fluctuations from 50 years (1940) to forty (1980), thirty (2010), and finally twenty (2030), odds are that any major astro-geophysical event will only aggravate the current 750-year chill-phase (to AD 2100) presaging two miles thick glaciations covering 60% of Earth’s temperate-zone landmasses for nigh 100,000 years.
For the record, Australian researcher Robert Holmes’ peer reviewed Molar Mass Version of the Ideal Gas Law (pub. December 2017) definitively refutes any possible CO2 connection to climate variations: Where Temperature T = PM/Rp, any planet’s near-surface global Temperature T equates to its Atmospheric Pressure P times Mean Molar Mass M over its Gas Constant R times Atmospheric Density p.
Accordingly, any individual planet’s global atmospheric surface temperature T (GAST) is proportional to PM/p, converted to an equation per its Gas Constant reciprocal = 1/R. Applying Holmes’ relation to all planets in Earth’s solar system, zero error-margins attest that there is no empirical or mathematical basis for any “forced” carbon-accumulation factor (CO2) affecting Planet Earth.
Hi, all.
Hopefully I’m not doing too big a “stretch”, going from making fun of a Mr. Gandy (an alarmist in South Carolina) in the above article, over to something else, but I was a bit “triggered” by something that appeared on CTV here in Canada a couple of days ago, so here goes:
https://www.ctvnews.ca/sci-tech/receding-glaciers-in-canadian-arctic-reveal-landscapes-not-seen-for-40-000-years-1.4273076
Now, the researchers from the U of Colorado in the above report could use a skeptical refresher, it seems. Instead of blithley claiming that Baffin Island in the Arctic, has less ice than ever during the last 100,000 years (or sometimes they say 40,000 years), why not read some sort of reasoned critique of this dubious conclusion, say:
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/10/24/claim-last-100-years-may-be-warmest-in-120000-years-in-the-arctic-but-not-so-fast/
Once thing I notice about the about the referenced 2013 WUWT article is that some of the comments to the article are pretty entertaining as to speculations as to whether, if certain mosses were uncovered during the 100,000 years mentioned (i.e. if the glaciers actually receded during that time), whether or not *moose* would have eaten the moss!
More seriously, I myself have witnessed the digging up of 10,000 year old tree leaves here in Saskatchewan, Canada (this was in the regular, glacier originated hills that cover most of my home province, at a location where they were digging a watering hole for cattle). The dead leaves in question were about 4 meters down below the surface of the pasture land, so no doubt they were very old.
In the context of finding old material that may have been dug out, or may have been naturally uncovered at some point, etc., what does my experience say about the conclusions of the U of Colorado people? Surely there is no particular reason why digging up some old moss on Baffin Island would say anything as to whether the moss was under the ice or just underground at any given time!
Anyway, I just thought I’d pop this recent CTV/University of Colorado TV report reference in to the current discussion here — it’s just one more dubious media thing, I guess?
“Is it humans or is it not? We really need to get beyond that,”
The problem with getting beyond that is
“[I]t will be easier for them to get on board with the only solutions believed to be able to rein it in: phasing out fossil fuels and scaling back our carbon footprint.”
You see that solution only “works” if the answer to “Is it humans or is it not” is “it’s humans (via their emissions of CO2)” if the answer is “It’s not humans” than that solution not only won’t work, it doesn’t even make sense.
Bottom line is humans can only “fix” the problem if they are the cause of the problem. If the cause of the problem is natural then what human do or don’t do is irrelevant. Man in incapable of telling nature what to do.
So when they say “We really need to get beyond” the question of man’s culpability what they really mean is “we’re blaming man regardless of what the facts say so shut up and do what we tell you to do!”.
You’re right that it has nothing to do with logic. The reason has to do with the dynamics of persuading people to act. Getting people to agree to pay for tax increases, wealth transfers, and wind turbines in order to intervene in the natural global climate cycle would be a very hard sell. Everyone knows intuitively that we can’t affect the natural global climate cycle.
People are much more open to the idea that we should always seek to reduce our impact on the world, just as we should not pollute the ground with mercury, or leave our trash on beach. Here people are told that our impact is dangerous, so of course they jump on board.
John ENDICOT sums it up perfectly, but of course that is not what the Greens want to hear, and sadly also both the Media and the Politician s.
MJE
That is the point. First, they must prove beyond any doubt that they are able to predict the climate for the next 100 years. Then, without any doubt, they must prove what the exact causes of climate change are. And finally, they have to prove that these results have positive or negative effects on humanity and / or nature. After that, it must first be clarified which measures are possible at all and are expedient. Only then we can take the appropriate measures.
Coming soon: Climate Clap™.
“I’m not sure if I excerpted the dumbest or least dumbest bits of this article. There’s not much dynamic range between the dumbest and least dumbest bits.”
Hee Hee. OK, I think Upton Sinclair gets the last word here:
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his job depends on not understanding it.”
As always, Dave, thanks for spotting all this stuff!
Did you know that modern Japanese for stuff is “stuffu”?