Guest essay by Eric Worrall
Pope Francis seems upset that nations have not heeded his climate advice. But I am concerned the Pope’s increasingly pessimistic climate message may be doing greater harm to society than his holiness realises.
Pope warns climate change turning Earth into desert, garbage
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Francis made the appeal at a Vatican conference marking the third anniversary of his landmark environmental encyclical “Praise Be.” The document, meant to spur action at the 2015 Paris climate conference, called for a paradigm shift in humanity’s relationship with Mother Nature.
In his remarks, Francis urged governments to honor their Paris commitments and said institutions like the IMF and World Bank had important roles to play in encouraging reforms promoting sustainable development.
“There is a real danger that we will leave future generations only rubble, deserts and refuse,” he warned.
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Read more: https://apnews.com/2dc33645a7e140ffa63e9f5f3b8d2504
There is zero risk any imaginable release of anthropogenic CO2 will ruin the world. My evidence is the past geological ages of the Earth, like the age of the dinosaurs, the Cretaceous – 4C warmer than today, 1700ppm CO2. During the Cretaceous the Earth was bursting with an abundance of life.
But the Pope’s ridiculous statements on a subject he obviously doesn’t understand still have the potential to do great harm.
Consider the following:
… The tall, sharply dressed man said humans were a cancer on the Earth. He said that he resented his parents for raising him to be “super hedonistic, just monstrously gaining things.” He said he had grown nihilistic, that he wanted to take up chain smoking and die a slow death. When Schapira asked if he was angry at his family, the young man replied, “I love my family. It’s so hard to know that you only have five years left to love people.” …
Read more: https://nexusmedianews.com/uncovering-the-mental-health-crisis-of-climate-change-88cd35a1293c
People who think they are about to die don’t plan for the future. They don’t believe they have a future. Problems remain unsolved. Health issues which young people are particularly at risk from, such as sexual health or drug abuse, avoiding HIV and other deadly STDs, becomes a bad joke. Why worry about something which could kill you in ten years, when climate change will kill you in five?
Pope Francis to his credit has championed sexual health, including use of condoms. But telling people the world is about to end is in my opinion a bit of a mixed message.
The USA, like many countries, is currently facing a serious opioid abuse epidemic. I’m not saying that this is Pope Francis’ fault, overprescription of painkillers leading to vicious cycles of addiction seems a far more likely culprit.
But people who defeat opioid addiction or overcome their temptation towards other harmful patterns of behaviour have to believe in the possibility of a better future, otherwise why bother? One of the world’s leading religious figures going around telling everyone the future is “rubble, deserts and refuse” does not help people feel more positive about their future.
The Pope has the potential to do great good, his views are important to a large number of people. But a scientifically unsound message of climate pessimism is not a realisation of that potential for good.
Let us hope that the Pope broadens the range of advice he receives about climate science.
Islam will turn the world to rubble and garbage before Climate Change ever will.
That’s just sad.
No, he’s right.
only rubble, deserts and refuse,” he warned.
Sounds more like the “liberated” cities in Iraq and Syria than globull warming.
It’s 1.8 billion human beings you are throwing in the trash.
No. Ordinary Muslims are victims too, of the tyrannical form of Islam being forced on them since it’s inception in the 1920’s in Saudi Arabia. No one blames all Muslims. It was a return to ‘fundamental Islam’ that follows the Koran to the letter, and was tyrannical even in the 7th century. Muslims aren’t allowed to leave the religion, in the Koran the punishment is death. either you convert to Islam, worldwide, or you are an infidel, also punishable by death in the Koran. Any wise person knows belief in God is a personal decision, and cannot be ‘forced’. A religion and a political system cannot be combined, as in Islam, or it simply becomes a tyranny. What Stan meant was that if the small but deadly number of Muslims who will carry out the violent dictates of the Koran aren’t stopped, they would do great harm to the world. Ordinary Muslims are caught between a rock and a hard-place, and it’s going to be a violent reform. That’s what is sad.
Stan said what he said. Your sanitized version would have been welcomed then, not after it failed under scrutiny.
Laura, but that is exactly what he was talking about, you just chose to be offended on behalf of all muslims because it suits you
The current “catholic” leadership is in bed with them, so, two prong attack on humanity.
Two prongs don’t make a right—-sorry I can’t help myself!!
Depends on which way those prongs are going!
Oh just go fork yourself. (Sorry, I could not pass up the chance at a pun.)
A good friend kept trying to get the DMV to give him a vanity plate that said, “4Q2”. They never would let him have it.
Probably already was issued to a politician for display on a Tesla.
Alternatively, depends on which way that antelope is heading.
Even more people have died because of religion than communism. Those are the 2 scourges of mankind. BTW, another top Vatican official just got charged over child porn. Another, in a long list of pedophiles employed by the Catholic Church. Since 2004, there have been 3520 Catholic priests around the world who have either been convicted or have been defrocked or have had lesser penalties from either child molestation, child abuse, or child porn.
I went to a Christian Brothers (Catholic) school in Ireland in the late 70’s. Brother Kelly is now in prison for messing with little boys. He is just the tip of the iceberg.
Of those 3520 Catholic priests did even ONE of them do time in jail ( I mean a real one , not a protection, expensed payed holiday in the Vatican “prison” with velvet lined armchairs. ).
I know Brother Kelly did go to jail. My Grandmother on my father’s side was furious that he was caught and put in jail. She simply could not believe it and rejected it outright. Maybe when she had to have an arm and a leg removed before her death that she found out there really is no God! Who knows! She, and recently my father, are dead. Buried in the family grave in Mooncoin, Waterford, Ireland.
Good riddance to bad people.
Some of my family in Ireland were Chritisan Brothers and Priests too.
(Apologies for rant Anthony/Mods)
My figures were as of 2014, 4 years ago. And those figures are what the Catholic Church itself has admitted to. There are plenty other active cases where the church has not admitted any wrong doing. And just imagine how often it occurred before 2004. Imagine 500 years of sexual predators within the Church and everything covered up. The first cases only started showing up in the 70’s but at first the Catholic Church resisted every attempt to get to the truth. The church even relocated priests to other jurisdictions where the suspected priest had access to other children.
Careful that you don’t impugn the integrity of the Pachamama Popey.
You left out the ranks of the conquered and colonized populations as well.
“Even more people have died because of religion than communism.”
Conclusory statement: “made in an argument that states a conclusion, without any foundation, underlying logic, or reasoning.” So let’s see your numbers and their sources, Alan.
Actually communism is a lot worse because it destroyed existing functioning economies and killed off or marginalized the more competent providers of goods and services.
I am definitely not a fan of Pope Francis. However bashing religion is not a good strategy for getting more people to understand the problems with the CAGW narrative. I suggest you do some missionary work on behalf of climate realism among people who share your beliefs about religion. See https://ffrf.org/news/news-releases/item/29062-why-climate-change-is-a-state-church-issue
Alan’s statement might be defensible, if and only if one attributes all the deaths in the conquest of the New World, the European wars of religion and the Taiping Rebellions strictly to religion.
Also, are all the deaths in World War II attributable to Communism, against which Nazism was a reaction, or does the similar ideology of Fascism also bear some blame on its own for the horrors of that global conflict?
I’d say that ideologies and religions promising certainty, regardless of the specifics of the doctrine, can lead to mass murder on industrial scales.
Mussolini and Franco obviously were less mass murderous than Stalin, Mao, Ho, the Kims, Castro and Pol Pot, but then there’s Hitler. However they were all different flavors of socialist, some bloodier than the others.
Absolute numbers might not be a “fair” comparison of mass murder. Totalitarian tyrants in the 20th century had the advantage of far larger populations whom to starve, imprison, gas, gun and otherwise kill.
“When it comes to people’s beliefs about climate change, it is the religiously unaffiliated, not those who identify with a religious tradition, who are particularly likely to say the Earth is warming due to human activity.”
http://www.pewinternet.org/2015/10/22/religion-and-views-on-climate-and-energy-issues/
How about you, Felix? Perhaps you could do some missionary work regarding CAGW among those opposed to religion.
Felix, don’t forget Idi Amin.
I shudder to think of how many Catholics and Protestants have killed each other over the years. Add in Shiites against Sunnis, witches burned at the stake, Matthew White’s The Great Big Book of Horrible Things gives religion as the cause of 13 of the world’s 100 deadliest atrocities. Since the time of the Crusades, religion has been the cause of many conflicts. 123 wars in history had religion as the cause with over 1/2 because of Islam.
The Crusades: 6,000,000
Thirty Years War: 11,500,000
French Wars of Religion: 4,000,000
Second Sudanese Civil War: 2,000,000
Lebanese Civil War: 250,000
Muslim Conquests of India: 80,000,000
Congolese Genocide (King Leopold II): 13,000,000
Armenian Genocide: 1,500,000
Rwandan Genocide: 800,000
Eighty Years’ War: 1,000,000
Nigerian Civil War: 1,000,000
Great Peasants’ Revolt: 250,000
First Sudanese Civil War: 1,000,000
Jewish Diaspora (Not Including the Holocaust): 1,000,000
The Holocaust (Jewish and Homosexual Deaths): 6,500,000
Islamic Terrorism Since 2000: 150,000
Iraq War: 500,000
US Western Expansion (Justified by “Manifest Destiny”):20,000,000
Atlantic Slave Trade (Justified by Christianity): 14,000,000
Aztec Human Sacrifice: 80,000
AIDS deaths in Africa largely due to opposition to condoms: 30,000,000
Spanish Inquisition: 5,000
TOTAL: 195,035,000 deaths in the name of religion.
On your alternate planet, US westward expansion killed 20 million people, and all in the name of religion? You honestly have convinced yourself that 20 million people died from 1776 until the closing of the frontier, c. 1899, on US soil, and that all those deaths were because of American settlers intent on spreading their religion, rather than homesteading, mining or logging?
The best estimate for North American population in 1776 is 9.86 million people. The most highly populated North American country at the time was Mexico, with some 5.43 million, followed by Central America and the Caribbean. The USA had around 2.5 million people. Thus all the Indians in what became the US and Canada numbered at most a million.
Had there been 20 million American Indians west of the Appalachians in 1776-1890, do your really think it would have been possible for isolated bands of settlers in wagons to have taken their land?
What color is the sky on your planet? Please take your meds.
The Crusades were an attempt to recapture Christian lands from Muslims. What’s wrong with that? Obviously, the Normans and other “Franks” could have done a better job of it, compared to the Mongol destruction of Baghdad, the Crusades weren’t even a drop in the bucket.
Your mostly fact-free screed left out Australian Aborigines. And of course the millions of American Indians killed by other American Indians in religious sacrifice, then eaten.
This wasn’t my list btw. Okay take off 15 million off the total. That still leaves 180 million dead. I agree with your additions. However the Crusades were a religious war. Land was involved because it always is involved in any war.
Try taking off 19 million, plus. Probably not even close to a million American Indians died during westward expansion, from settlers. More were killed by Indians fighting each other, as had occurred for millennia. Horses and firearms allowed tribes in contact with whites to slaughter their traditional enemies.
Yes, the Crusades can be seen as a religious war, but its death toll was insignificant compared the what hit Islam from the East, ie the Mongols, Tamarlane, etc.
And reconquering lost land is totally justifiable. Islam was able to grab the Levant, Mesopotamia and Persia because the Byzantines and Persians had battered each other to pieces, which Arabs were able to pick up.
Your tally is largely a pack of lies. You’re naive and gullible, uncritically, ie cluelessly, swallowing whatever mendacities confirm your bias.
It wasn’t my list but subtract off another 50 million and it is still higher than the number of deaths by Communism. If you want , post another corrected list and total it
How about the 30 million Africans, mostly children, who died because DDT, which essentially wiped out malaria in the 1950s, was outlawed by the “civilized” countries, due to an error-filled book about songbirds. Call it death due to political correctness.
“How about the 30 million Africans…”
They were the first humans to experience a Silent Spring because of Rachel Carson.
Western Europeans never owned the holy land. If they really cared about honorable “recapturing” they should have just given the land to Byzantines. And at that point the islamic conquests happened hundreds of years ago. It’s not like they asked the populace which ruler they wanted to serve. Though I suspect most people just wanted to be left alone. And the whole history is of course full of conquests and reconquests. Byzantines/Romans and Persians were themselves conquerors, just like the crusaders in their own home countries.
Reconquest in itself is not justifiable. It’s only justifiable if it’s worth the cost. Or are you advocating that Indian americans should take up arms against US government? Europe was a battleground and a huge mess. I’m sure we would find plenty of casus belli for war there. Send thousands of young men and women to their deaths, destroy economy, just because wrong person owned this land hundreds of years ago? Greece vs Turkey. UK vs France. Germany vs France. Finland vs Russia. It would just never end. And what does it matter what Mongols did? That’s completely separate topic.
Besides judging events that happened thousands or hundreds of years ago by today’s moral standards is a bit silly anyway. But today it has been weaponized by politicians to advance their agendas. Left thinks the crusaders prove how evil and morally corrupt Europeans were/are. Right thinks the crusaders were just and honorable war waged against evil and darkness. Both views are just stupid imo…
But, but, but, Alan, …… ya gotta add in all the millions of deaths that the Bible lists as being necessary “in the name of religion”.
That’s a cop out Alan. If you don’t agree with the list, then don’t post it.
Felix just pointed out one of the many problems with your list.
If you didn’t hate religion so fervently you would be able to see just how stupid you sound.
Alan : The sort of figures are vague BUT LARGE and if ONE took
the effort to add all the half-millions here and there throughout
occupied Balkan and Eastern European Countries ONE
could make this horrendous total even much larger :
“In 2005, R. J. Rummel revised his estimate of total Communist democide between 1900 and 1999 upward by 38 million to “about 148,000,000″, due to recent publications about Mao’s role in China’s Great Famine.”
In any event……far too many……….and that makes
ONE IDEOLOGY just as BAD AS THE OTHER IDEOLOGY.
Nothing to be proud of either way !
“AIDS deaths in Africa largely due to opposition to condoms: 30,000,000”
Really, Alan? Since Christianity and Islam clearly oppose sex with prostitutes, it’s hard to see how religion could be responsible for all those AIDS deaths.
AIDS death in Africa – NOTHING to do with religion.
Hatred of religion makes people stupid.
If two countries who aren’t both atheist fight, obviously the war was caused by religion.
The Crusades followed 200 years of relentless Muslim slave raiding throughout the entire Mediterranean coast of Europe, effectively depopulating the entire southern coast of Europe. Muslims slave-raided as far West as Ireland, and northeast into the Caucasus Mts.
The Crusades were not the result of some European imperialistic impulse. They were a response to continuous military and predatory attacks of an implacable foe.
By about the 15th century, Muslims had also exterminated the Christian population of North Africa, by slave-taking, forced conversion, and murder. They nearly obliterated the North African Jewish population as well.
Muslims raided most of Sub-Saharan Africa for slaves, too, by the way. That included raiding along the entire Eastern coast and of course, the 1000-year trans-Saharan slave trade.
I’m not a fan of Francis either, and I’m one of his flock!
Prelates of all stripes should keep well clear of things they don’t understand. I realise that their approach to mankind’s welfare needs to be holistic — the care of both body and soul — but when they stray into territory that is outside their expertise it behoves them to get advice from all sides, not just the too plausible green blob!
Francis could do with a touch more faith in the God that created this earth and left mankind both to care for and to exploit it (Those of you who don’t believe had better look away now!) Someone ought to explain to him the benefits to mankind that have accrued from proper use of coal, oil, and gas, and also show him that earth was a few degrees warmer 2000 years ago when God’s Son was here dying to redeem mankind from its sinfulness.
(I don’t really care whether any of you believe that or not so please don’t start a religious argument with me. The point is that Francis does and his approach to climate doesn’t sit well with that belief for the reason I’ve just given. Looked at squarely from that angle every Christian should be sceptical of at least the more extreme predictions!)
You can blame Herr Schellnhuber for much of His Grace’s indoctrination on climate, from what I’ve seen. That fellow must have only read the beatitudes as an excuse to keep the masses humble and poor, the book of James and the accounts of Tyre and Sidon.
Yet, God told Adam to multiply and subdue the earth.
The Holy Father should consider the prophets of Baal when viewing the predictions of computers and eminent mortals…
You cannot tar all with the same brush. I was brought up as a catholic and never encountered any such abuse from clergy. However, I did meet a nasty visiting film person who I deeply distrusted. Some of the nuns were just bossy and unpleasant if they didn’t like a particular child. I am now an anglican but I hope that people realise there are baddies in all walks of society. The church certainly should not ever countenance or hide evil- doing.
I cannot refer to the present incumbent as ‘his holiness’. Anything that goes against the common good is evil, by definition.
Annie,
Had you been an altar boy, odds are good that you would have been abused.
But you’re right, there are pervs in the public schools as well as the parochial, Prods and Catholics.
The difference is that, in Catholic parishes, offending priests were simply transferred, and covered for by their bishops, rather than fired and prosecuted, as in the public and Prod schools.
Total BS Alan.
Hatred of religion makes people stupid.
Nonsense. If you take the casualty figures from every religious war and persecution in history, and compare them with (only!) the twentieth century wars and persecutions by atheist Communism, you will find that Communism’s big century beats everybody else in history by about 250 million to 300 million. (Depending on which estimates you choose.)
But I’m sure that making up statistics keeps you warm and happy.
You can’t talk about the Pope’s mates like that.
Yes… Just like silly climate change predictions, I’m still waiting for that claim to come true.
Speak for yourself you pontificating old fool.
Yep, then ask him about the end game.
Start taxing volcanos big guy
Brilliant, volcanos aren’t the problem. And you would now that if you had done any reading on the topic at all.
I think those on Hawaii might have something different to say about that.
How so… significant eruptions cool the planet.
So massive amounts of CO2 cool the planet?
Good to know.
Thanks!
CO2 of course not, but with an injection of tons of SO2, as that forms drops (aerosols) if the eruption is strong enough to reach the stratosphere. With the 1991 Pinatubo that happened, but the cooling effect was only a few years until most of the drops were falling out of the stratosphere.
Why do you say of course not?
Under various conditions, CO2 can and does cool the air and surface.
The thousands of volcanos underneath the sea bed must have some play in the climate. No one has any numbers on the amount of CO2 they spew.
At the high pressure in the deep oceans, the ocean waters are undersaturated for CO2, thus most of CO2 – and other gases like SO2 – simply dissolve in the huge mass of water with lots of (bi)carbonates already present there, that doesn’t make much difference. Only if there are massive eruptions not far from the surface, CO2 can reach the atmosphere. Bermuda Triangle anyone?
So sayith: Ferdinand Engelbeen
Such silliness.
Iffen those “CO2 undersaturated” deep ocean waters would only remain in the deep ocean then their dissolved CO2/SO2 ……. “wouldn’t make much difference”.
But their chances of “remaining in the deep ocean” is highly unlikely because of, to wit:
It is apparent this Pope,head of a Christian Order has no faith in God.
All the things he lists,as bad, are natural aspects of life cycles.
Every building every artifact will become rubble.Ditto every mountain
Deserts come and go with the climate cycles/changes.
And refuse is the midden from which new growth springs.
These are the works of God
Indeed this lazy pessimism is dangerous,I grew to adulthood during the MAD years.
Why plan ahead,why abide by customs of a culture that brought us to this brink.
Fine reasoning but totally wrong in hindsight.
Back to the will of God.
What kind of high priest is this old fool?
Does he seek to destroy the latest religion of man,by his support?
The Cult of Climatism or Doom By CAGW is getting pretty boring,they really need some new material.
I know,when atmospheric CO2,the magic gas, reaches 700 ppm then the trees shall be energized,able to break out of their stagnant starved immobility, to go forth and tear down the cities walls…erasing man from history.
Doom,Doom ,Doom.
I guess there are no adults or conniving Jesuits left in Vatican City.
No one to whisper into this Popes ear.
John, Pope Francis IS a conniving Jesuit. That’s the problem.
Not just a Jesuit, but a Communist, an enemy of freedom, peace, prosperity and humanity. And a friend of pederasts.
The Ents are coming. Repent now.
I agree. We need more CO2 in the atmosphere NOT less
This Pope is nothing but a South American Socialist, bordering on Communist. It colors almost everything he says. Central control of the masses is his biggest goal.
“This Pope is nothing but a South American Socialist, bordering on Communist. ”
You say it like it’s a bad thing.
You forget your /sarc tag.
I hope you werent serious.
He is. Deadly.
Anti-human birds of a feather flock together.
Control of the masses was ALWAYS the biggest goal.
After the fall of Jerusalem, a few banished Rabbi re-wrote their holy book. Their goal was to gather the forces needed to overthrow the Roman Empire from within. They succeeded in only 250 years.
It has been the goal of Priests, Druids and Shamans ever since we lived in caves. No King can sit on the throne for very long if the clergy opposes him. The climate is ALWAYS changing, and it is the Kings fault because he does not provide enough “sacrifices” to the “Gods”. (the Gods only ask for the blood, so the Priests get to eat the rest)
In evolutionary terms, the clergy might be a “good thing”. In the Rock-Paper-Speer kind of way. The biggest and strongest hunter might have a rock for brains. So the elders need a way to overthrow him if he becomes a liability to the welfare of the tribe.
Catholic version of a Manchurian candidate — Buenos Airian candidate? Even the Vatican is now infiltrated by the marxism.
From what I remember of new testament religious training, Jesus Christ was like the biggest socialist that ever lived. The difference to me is that he was apparently not driven by mortal desires, but instead was instilled with the spirit of agape. There will be no perfect leader to administer socialist utopia until his return, at least says the bible.
When men of faith, purportedly following in the footsteps of Jesus, divest themselves of their worldly goods, and practise what he preached, then maybe I’ll listen to them.
As it is, they preach from the very temples of wealth Jesus detested.
Detestable elitists, all of them.
He’s doing exactly what the democrats do in this country..he’s playing to the lowest common denominator
So which churches are doing what you say HS?
The Catholic Church, for starters. On the grandest scale. The others are pikers by comparison.
When my dad was in the North during the ’30s, priests would come around to all the Indian and Eskimo camps in the NWT, Yukon and Alaska to demand Arctic fox hides from the indigenous peoples, because they, the priests, had spent all winter praying for the Indians and Eskimos.
It’s a legal protection racket, since the threat from which the suckers are protected is in purgatory and the after life, not the risk of having your kneecaps shot by 9mm or your house or business burnt down.
Now you are demonstrating your profound ignorance. Amongst many other factual events was the transportation of 10,000 children from the UK to Australia. They were entrusted to the Catholic church where they were enslaved, beaten and sexually abused by the priests.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/australias-apology-to-transported-children-1779652.html
There isn’t a lot in the way of evidence in that link to support your statement, HotScot, merely the (for the Indy obligatory) sideswipe at the Christian Brothers who have been notorious for decades for their — to put it politely — robust approach to discipline.
The children were entrusted to all sorts of organisations and individuals amd many of them were abused in a variety of ways. To make a point of singling out Catholic priests and accusing them of sexual abuse says something about you, I fear. You have, sadly, gone down several notches in my estimation.
Newminster
If you care to follow the link in the article, to the book written on the event, and read it, as I have, you’ll find mountains of evidence from child victims who were featured in the book as adults.
The testimony is almost exclusively directed at the Catholic Church and predatory Priests detailing rape, torture, neglect, slavery, imprisonment etc.
Then: All Chilean bishops offer their resignation over sexual abuse cover-up
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/18/chilean-bishops-offer-their-resignation-over-sexual-abuse-cover-up
Our current Pope said of the man his colleagues sheltered from justice: “The day they bring me proof against Bishop Barros, I’ll speak. There is not one shred of proof against him. It’s all calumny. Is that clear?”
And: London priest who fled to Kosovo found guilty of abusing schoolboys
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/dec/06/london-priest-kosovo-found-guilty-abusing-schoolboys-andrew-soper-st-benedict-school
And: London Catholic school abuse survivor speaks of ‘constant violence’
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jan/01/london-catholic-school-abuse-survivor-speaks-of-constant-violence-st-benedicts
The Catholic Church is riddled with paedophiles. The evidence is unambiguous. Furthermore, there is evidence to suggest that the IRA sheltered and assisted paedophile Priests. And priests not merely sheltered IRA members, Father James Chesney, masterminded the bombing of Claudy which killed 9 people. Look it all up yourself.
Clearly, if I have gone down in your estimation, you are blinded to the facts, perhaps deliberately, by your own religious zeal.
I dont care if they drive a Mercedes or whatever. The scam is asking for money from the poor to perpetuate the belief in something that isnt real. They are promising everlasting life. Just keep donating to the collection plate and ye shall have it. This scam has been going on for 2000 years. .
It’s the same as the Mafia’s schtick.
A protection racket.
Prove it.
If you can’t, then you are as much a believer as those you hate.
Personally, I feel blessed that I will escape the ravages of CO2 induced destructive climate change. I will leave to my children a small sum of money to deal with the consequences of my profligate use of fossil fuels as I am comfortable in my life style. I can only hope that lessons learned in my time have carry over to their lives, namely: Change is inevitable. Adaptation is essential. Enjoy the journey.
Unfortunately, the Pope is totally ignorant about Climate and about Islam. His pronouncements on both rival each other for gross recklessness and blind stupidity.
I don’t think he is ignorant of those things. It’s all part of the plan.
If you need evidence that the election of popes is not directed by divine guidance, look at this old fool. Unless you figure he’s God’s intended instrument for destroying the Catholic church.
Perhaps God wants the Catholic church destroyed as they have wandered away from the true teachings.
“ they have wandered away from the true teachings.”
Martin Luther thought the same ……… and thus was birthed the Reformationn.
My thesis is that Satan having failed to turn the mind of Christ himself and having got caught out fiddling certain Koranic verses but being timelessly patient simply waited and waited for the right idiot to come along (or did a lot of excellent lobbying so that the idiot duly came along) and voila! here he is. In the mean time good old Satan has amused himself setting up the KKK, The Taliban, Al Quaeda and IS not to mention various goat bothering despots around the place and has been a creative consultant in growing the Great Green Blob. Polemic nonsense that resonates with peoples fears, phobias or just sense of disafdvantage ( real or confected) is his main tool and it seems to work well.
Anyhow thats my theory…
Garbage is as garbage speaks. More ordure to be shovelled onto the alarmist dump.
I wish the Pope would stick to lecturing about things he really doesn’t know anything about, like God. He knows less about science.
“… urged governments to honor their Paris commitments … ”
Translation: The USA needs to cough up more money to tyrants, dictators, and socialists.
The U.S. government did not commit to anything.
Did you think he was talking about CO2?
Clearly, you do not understand the thinking of his holiness.
The U. S. tax payers have already contributed to the Green Climate Fund (about 1 B $). A U. S. President pledged more.
Consider the other mis-information in Francis’ mind. It is a short step to his wanting USA to pay more. He knows nothing and cares nothing about CO2.
A President “pledging money” does not commit the U.S. to that idea. Unless it becomes a treaty with the advise and consent of the Senate it is worthless. Now, a certain former President went ahead and did that but there is no further requirement to continue with those payments especially with a new sheriff in town.
Wait, so there are, what, twenty, maybe thirty Catholics in the whole world that:
1. Completely believe everything Pope Francis says, especially on matters that he is definitively and dogmatically NOT infallible in,
2. Frequently listen to him.
3. Aren’t Leftist twits who already believed in CAGW anyways.
In the words of the Bugster; what a maroon.
Bergoglio grew up under Peron, a kitsch Fascist, so he had not reflexive distaste for Liberation Theology, an nearly oxymoronic attempt to reconcile Marxism and Christianity. So Pope Francis has no education, and is unwilling to get any education, that would dissuade him from another leftie endeavour, Climate Change.
The Chicago School talks. Wonder what you say of Macri or Temer in Brazil?
Have you not verified the arrest of pope Francis and his assistant and the Irish discovery. Too horrendous for the mainstream media to report.
I thought it was just his assistant, Cardinal George Pell.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/28/world/australia/cardinal-george-pell-charged-sexual-abuse.html
This is too funny. Pell wasn’t the Vatican official arrested, that I was referring to above. The other official in the Vatican was arrested for child porn at about the same time.
Googling pope and arrest seems to turn up headlines from every year.
This pope seems to be dancing around the obvious…..pick something to preach about….that he can’t possibly fix….his safe place
That’s a much safer bet than going after the things he is responsible for and can fix
Latitude
Like child abuse.
A nest of the privileged elite handed children to abuse and murder, because they convinced the world they were godly men.
A pox on the Catholic church. A disgusting organisation that should have been condemned long ago.
Pope Francis: “we will leave future generations only rubble, deserts and refuse”
No – The Vatican will still be there. It has a wall around it and an army to protect its ‘sovereignty’ and massive wealth.
That Vatican wall did precious little to help Pacelli fight the Fascists, relegating him to back-corridor diplomacy while Hitler carried out his Final Solution.
True. But today, the Fascists are AGW socialism supporters, as is the pope. He will aid and abet the modern socialist Final Solution.
The CoE saying they should divest in companies that cause ManBearPig. I am sure they are plenty more people who will take up the slack.
Julian
Yes, I heard that on the BBC today.
No doubt they can entice the children of the greens to be sexually molested with their holier than thou pronouncements.
They never stop.
“There is a real danger that we will leave future generations only rubble, deserts and refuse” if we pay any attention to so called CAGW.
Where does this arrogant so and so get off? A man elected/appointed to an office with the attribution of infallibillity? LOL. You empty headed galoot, that comes not from its association with The Almighty but from the position’s association with Roman Emperors. Pontifex Maximus is a priesthood held by Roman Emperors since the time of Augustus.
BTW, if Satan snuck into Paradise iteslef and whispered in the ear of Adam and Eve then on what basis is he not whispering in the ear of this self important buffoon? He seems to be having monstrous success with the ISIS imbeciles and the Green Glob would seem to have his slimy paw prints all over it.
I’ll stick with my God given intelligence thanks.
Conception is literally the same thing. Why does everyone want to try and die healthy? It can’t be done. We’re not immortal.
The Vatican has vast interests in anything monetary, which is why it’s probably the richest institution in the world and all based on selling fear.
If the pope’s so holy, maybe he can explain why the age of consent in Vatican City is “legal” at 12..?
(I use quotes around “legal” because many things that are “legal” are also immoral, criminal and therefore unlawful. It’s just words on paper written by someone you’ve never met).
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The age of consent means nothing to the catholic church.
Any age of child is fair game for molestation and sexually oriented murder. Despite all the proven past, and ongoing crimes against children, this reprehensible organisation is allowed to continue.
Not forgetting that Islam allows marriage and sexual contact from birth, just not penetration until age 9. Bestiality is also allowed. All religions appear to have their sexual perversions.
Sounds like its time for another schism.
…said the Argentinian Communist.
“future generations only rubble, deserts and refuse” Yes. Under a socialist a$$hole that is precisely what the “catholic church” will do,f*ck the entire planet.
“….we will leave future generations only rubble, deserts and refuse….” What, is he planning another Crusade?