Point: summer deaths can be avoided by sticking to Paris agreement Counterpoint: so would cheap electricity and air conditioning

From the UNIVERSITY OF BRISTOL and the “missed solutions that don’t fit the narrative” department

Adhering to Paris Agreement climate goal could significantly decrease heat-related summer deaths

The paper, published this week in the journal Nature Climate Change, demonstrates that, all else being equal, mortality due to high temperatures could be significantly reduced (15-22 per cent per summer) in London and Paris if we stabilise climate at the lower of the Paris Climate Goals, 1.5°C, as compared with the higher temperature goal.

In London, currently around 10 per cent of summers are free of any heat-related mortality, but this research has shown that under potential future climate change virtually all summers will have some heat-related mortality.

Researchers from Bristol who lead the HAPPI project (Half a degree Additional warming, Prognosis and Projected Impacts Model Intercomparison Project) simulated future climate under climate goals consistent with the 1.5°C and 2°C global warming Paris Agreement climate goals. The project utilised researchers and citizen scientists from around the world to help run the experiments.

Dr Dann Mitchell, lead author of the study, and a lecturer in climate physics at the University of Bristol, said “Our results show a clear increase in heat-related mortality which can be avoided by adhering to the Paris Agreement goals.

“Together with the recent publication of a wealth of evidence presented for climate drivers of other impact sectors (such as the crop sector), it is becoming evermore clear as to how crucial these climate goals are.

“We need to understand the magnitude of these health impacts, so we can plan suitable adaptation strategies to prevent them.”

The research comes at a time where much of Europe is undergoing a heatwave, and the public are being advised to take care and check more regularly on vulnerable relatives and friends.


The research was carried out in collaboration with researchers at Public Health England, the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, Oxford University, the University of Washington, The European Centre for Environment and Human Health, ETH Zurich, and the National Institute for Environmental Studies in Tsukuba, Japan.

Deaths can also be reduced by lowering electricity prices, especially for the poor and elderly, so that air conditioning can be used. Often people in these low-income demographics have to make a choice between fuel and food, as illustrated in the UK during the winter. The same holds true for the summer.

But, that doesn’t fit the narrative, so is excluded as a solution by these climate campaigners with tunnel vision who’d rather focus on cute but useless programs named “HAPPI”.

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June 27, 2018 10:07 am

What I would be interested in is the annual total. Does the annual total of temperature related deaths go up or down with a 2C increase? I bet it is still the case that there are more deaths due to cold than heat.

Reply to  chadb
June 27, 2018 10:30 am

An interesting question , chadb, and you will be pleased to know that it was answered last year in an impressive collection of modelled results of the consequences of global warming on both cold and heat related mortality and published in the Lancet
It is open access.Take a look at their Fig 2 in which the curves for the reduction in cold related mortality and the increase in heat related deaths for all parts of the world and under emission scenarios RCP 2.6, 4.5 and 8.5.
Only in the highest emission scenarios do the heat related deaths exceed the cold related deaths , and only in the tropical areas . Other posts here in the past have regarded the highest emission scenario as very unlikely .
So it is possibly not the bad news that the U of Bristol are predicting .
Bear in mind also that the editorial group at the Lancet in which the paper appeared is now led by one Christiana Figueres , of whom you will have read much in these pages .

Reply to  mikewaite
June 27, 2018 11:48 am

“only in the tropical areas “…I find that hard to believe
For one thing, the tropics would be affected the least….
…for the other, we’re used to it
It was 91F this morning, I worked in the yard for over an hour and didn’t even sweat….93 94 95…I would not even notice the difference…and no one else would either

Reply to  Latitude
June 27, 2018 12:07 pm

I do not know if the Fig2 will come out
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but for the Northern hemisphere and even Australia under the high , and least likely, RCP 8,5 scenario , heat related deaths do not exceed cold related deaths .
It is central america , south east asia , and ( admittedly not tropical) southern Europe where heat deaths predominate – by 2099.
These are of course modelled predictions but the Lancet stable of publications are highly respected. The abstract does hype the high emission scenario, but the diagrams tell a somewhat more realistic and more reassuring story .
And of course it comes after a( 2016?) article , same group, same journal , which points out that moderate cold is far more dangerous than moderate heat ( has been quoted here in the past I seem to remember ).

Reply to  chadb
June 29, 2018 12:01 pm

I think the second sentence here is the relevant issue, but the third sentence is what the responses heretofore appear to focus on.

I would argue that it doesn’t matter whether there are more cold-related deaths or heat-related deaths. What matters is whether TOTAL temperature-related deaths, including both extremes, goes up or down. Or put another way, whether the increase in heat-related deaths exceeds the decrease in cold-related deaths.

If we take the MODEL results (thanks, Mike) as fact, it appears that, at least for RCPs 2.6 and 4.5, the number of cold related deaths decreases more than the number of heat-related deaths increases, though the difference is small to non-existent in some regions. The results are more mixed for RCP 8.5, but at a glance, it appears the increase in heat-related deaths will exceed the decrease in cold-related deaths. But folks in Northern Europe and Australia should definitely be rooting for RCP 8.6.

June 27, 2018 10:09 am

A study published during a heat wave? What a happy coincidence. Just like Hansen’s Senate testimony.

Eustace Cranch
June 27, 2018 10:10 am

“if we stabilise climate at the lower of the Paris Climate Goals, 1.5°C”

And we know exactly how to do that. Of course we do! Settled Science!

Reply to  Eustace Cranch
June 27, 2018 10:55 am

My sentiment as well.
If the world adhered to the Paris accord where is the evidence that these heat waves wouldn’t occur regardless?
Such proclamations fall into “Bell-the-Cat” solutions. Simply by dictating that an end result will occur does not actually make it occur, nor has it solved anything.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Eustace Cranch
June 27, 2018 11:32 am

Thinking humans can “stablilise climate” disqualifies the authors from voting.

David S
June 27, 2018 10:12 am

Was the HAPPI project developed during HAPPI HOUR?

Reply to  David S
June 27, 2018 10:18 am

David S

Consultation with a delightful, but bewildered lady, at the local care home, during HAPPI CLAPPI hour.

June 27, 2018 10:15 am

My understanding is that observed temperatures are just (other than the 2016/2017 El Niño blip) bumping along the bottom of the IPCC predictions.

If they fall any further, or the “hiatus” (alarmist term for pause) continues on it’s merry way, won’t the world be conforming to the 1.5°C target, whilst CO2 emissions continue to increase in the rest of the world, whilst falling in America.

So what use is the Paris agreement?

Or have I got all this completely wrong?

Pop Piasa
Reply to  HotScot
June 27, 2018 10:15 pm

Spot on Mr Scot. They also ignored the fact that the bulk of global temperature rise has occurred at extreme latitudes, not tropical latitudes, and exclusively during the hemispheric winters for the last several decades. This is easily explained by the extra water vapor from warmer SSTs due to multi-decadal oscillations and recent ENSO trends.

The Arctic as well as eastern Canadian temperatures are presently below normal for summer, even though the MSM and alarmists are ignoring this and focusing their tunnel vision on Antarctica during its winter while discounting volcanic influences from below the western continent.

donald penman
June 27, 2018 10:17 am

I have my ceiling fan running now which is keeping me a bit cooler in my flat , I have found that it uses very little electricity because it makes no difference to my weekly fuel bill. The council have sent me a letter saying that they are looking at fitting cavity wall insulation to my block. I have been told that Dyson coolers and heaters are very good and very quiet but the problem with them is they are very expensive three hundred to four hundred pound to buy. I have a portable air conditioning unit which you fill with water I bought this when I moved into my flat it is absolutely useless it just blows hot air around the room while I sweat, it is very noisy also.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  donald penman
June 27, 2018 11:07 am

We used to get by running fans during the day, and putting them in windows at night to bring in cooler air. But mostly, we were uncomfortable a lot of the time in Summer. And the fans made quite a bit of noise, and the electricity added up. About four years ago, we broke down and got a 10k btu AC window unit, for perhaps $250. Never regretted it. Noticed perhaps a $15/month increase (if that) during July and August. And now, we don’t have to dread heatwaves, like the one coming to New England soon.

Reply to  Bruce Cobb
June 27, 2018 2:29 pm

I live in SW Florida and I don’t use AC at home at all. I have windows open and ceiling fans running when I’m in the room. The only time the heat hurts me is after I’ve spent time in buildings in which the AC is turned to 71 degrees and then I have to go outside into the 95 degree heat. It’s not the temperature that hurts, it’s the sudden difference in temperature between what you’ve acclimated to and what you change to.

June 27, 2018 10:19 am

You seriously needed to run models and simulations to conclude this?

If you assume that heat causes excess deaths and then you assume that you will get more heat with no mitigation, you have to conclude that you will get more excess deaths. Then saying that without the extra heat there will be fewer deaths is simply restating your assumptions

Does these people really, actually believe they are doing science?

Reply to  Phoenix44
June 27, 2018 12:02 pm

Another point is that it’s not so much heat that kills, it’s abnormal heat. Heat above what is commonly found in a region.
If the world did get 1C warmer, then normal would go up as well, and it would still be heat waves that kill, it’s just the definition of a heat wave has changed.

Reply to  Phoenix44
June 27, 2018 3:49 pm

They do. They don’t get out much.

Joel Snider
June 27, 2018 10:26 am

Soooo, what microscopic difference would the Paris agreement have made to the daily temperature? Even possible to measure?

THESE are the returns we can expect from greenie policy.
Versus what cost? To the economy? To freedom in general? To the actual ability of humans to adapt their environment to their comfort?

Pretty expensive warm fuzzy for the self-indulgent delusion of doing ANYTHING proactive or positive – because I can’t remember the last time any greenie did anything that was genuinely positive or helpful for anyone, other than just providing some abstract perception of ‘mitigating’ climate change.

J Mac
June 27, 2018 10:28 am

Adherence to the Paris Climate Non-agreement will increase both summer and winter deaths, as a result of reliance on unreliable, nondispatchable, expensive solar and wind electrical generation. The grid supply failures and high electrical costs driven by unreliable ‘renewables’ means the poor will be forced to choose between ‘cooling/heating or eating’.

Freezing, overheating, or starving, because…… Climate Change.

Reply to  J Mac
June 27, 2018 1:47 pm

The anti-human CACA conspiracy has already caused tens of millions of excess human deaths. Not to mention the untold destruction of billions of birds and bats.

Reply to  Felix
June 28, 2018 9:56 am

Supporting links for those figures?

Mark from the Midwest
June 27, 2018 10:31 am

Death rates trend up during heatwaves, but in the weeks following a heatwave the death rates trend down, so it appears to be a case of heat hastening an impending death, rather than purely a causal issue.

I can’t dig out the exact citation for this, but it’s somewhere in the CDC Morbidity and Mortality sections by standard metro areas for death rates, and I’m sure you guys know where to find temps by metro

June 27, 2018 10:38 am

The willful blindness of those who cling to the false perception that rising CO2 causes significant warming is disturbing.

June 27, 2018 11:00 am

So, where in the developed world is it hot? How about Amman Jordan. link As far as I can tell, nobody’s dying of heat.

People can adapt to life in hot climates. If people are not ready for the heat, plenty of folks die. 2003 European Heat Wave

I have heard stories about the wretched state of the British housing stock. Single pane windows, very drafty, etc. Is it really that bad? In that case, they could save lives, and money, by fixing their homes.

One of my friends was raised in Baghdad. He remembers being quite comfortable without air conditioning. The houses were built in such a manner that they stayed cool.

The greenies don’t seem to have clued into adaptation. Maybe they’ll go extinct. In the words of Nassim Taleb, they are intellectual yet idiot.

Reply to  commieBob
June 27, 2018 11:16 am

They are like parrots with extremely large vocabularies… No original or critical thought, they just say what they’re told to.

June 27, 2018 11:02 am

The life cycle of the CO2 MEME:

It seems from recent Greenblob outpourings that this Meme is in the next phase of its life cycle, having morphed from Greenhouse Effect to Global Warming and then to Climate Change. I detect the next one emerging will be a piebald temperature soundbite based on the Paris predictions. Can’t home in on one myself. Any suggestions?
Perhaps?: 2degree crunch. or Degrees of fault, or maybe Hothouse Horror.
But none of these grab me. I just watch with interest and note it’s struggles to shed its skin.

As an aside; I am currently building on my little lathe a working model of a Stirling Engine driven fan, which used to be used fairly extensively in the days of nil electricity. Totally useless these days; but who knows perhaps could keep me cool when the wind packs up someday. I just love it’s political statement whereby fossil fuel drives the windturbine.

Bryan A
Reply to  Alasdair
June 27, 2018 12:11 pm

How about Anthropo-Genesys

James Bull
June 27, 2018 11:14 am

Well I won’t be popular with them as tomorrow some nice men are coming to fit an AC unit at home, I was pleasently surprised at the price.
It is more for my wifes benefit as she has MS and the heat makes her symtoms worse but she will be at a much more comfortable temp.

James Bull

Patrick MJD
Reply to  James Bull
June 27, 2018 7:01 pm

Not only temperatures that are more comfortable, more comfortable humidity, around 45% which is just perfect for humans and deadly to mould, fungus and mites, too.

James Bull
Reply to  James Bull
June 28, 2018 4:16 am

Well it’s in and running, can hardly hear it and it’s good for Mrs Bull.
Will have to wait and see what the power consumption is like but I’ll probably go with it’s worth it and as a friend of mine used to say “Blow the expense give the cat a goldfish”

James Bull

Wiliam Haas
June 27, 2018 11:18 am

The reality is that based on the paleoclimate record and the work done with models, the climate change we are experiencing today is caused by the sun and the oceans over which mankind has no control. Despite the hype, there is no real evidence that CO2 has any effect on climate and plenty of scientific rational to support the idea that the climate sensitivity of CO2 is zero. Hence sticking to the Paris Climate Agreement will have no effect on climate.

Tom Halla
June 27, 2018 11:19 am

They deserve punishment just for that acronym.

Bruce Cobb
June 27, 2018 11:19 am

Adhering to the Paris monstrosity would do nothing except make people poorer, which would in fact make both heat-related and especially cold-related deaths increase significantly. So they have it exactly backwards. As usual.

June 27, 2018 11:28 am

should be

June 27, 2018 11:31 am

The Paris agreement assumes/asserts the validity of the hypothesis of catastrophic anthropogenic global warming. We should probably throw out this outlier belief and focus on development to to sustain and grow the population.

June 27, 2018 11:38 am

“Point: summer deaths can be avoided by sticking to Paris agreement Counterpoint: so would cheap electricity and air condintioning(sp)”
But one is a long term solution, the other not.

Go Home
Reply to  Simon
June 27, 2018 11:48 am

Don’t be ignorant.

Reply to  Simon
June 27, 2018 12:19 pm

Since CO2 is not going to cause dangerous warming why bother?
Heck, it still hasn’t caused measurable warming.

Reply to  Simon
June 27, 2018 12:41 pm

“But one is a long term solution, the other not.”

Because if the earth warms, we’re all going to toss our A/C’s into the bin in protest?

Reply to  Simon
June 27, 2018 2:06 pm

Cheap electricity and air conditioning IS the long term solution.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Simon
June 27, 2018 6:57 pm

Long term solution to what problem? Can you define the “problem” that is not a hypothesis, conjecture or theory? Can you define the “problem” that is not based on corrupted input data or computer model?

I did’t think so!

son of mulder
June 27, 2018 11:38 am

Life expectancy has risen alongside CO2 and global average temperature.

June 27, 2018 11:40 am

In London, currently around 10 per cent of summers are free of any heat-related mortality

So, currently, 90% of summers ALREADY have heat related mortality. So they want to mitigate the extra 10%? Even if their presumed warming happened, the measures to mitigate heat related mortality would still be needed for the 90% and would cost very little extra to cover the additional 10% if it actually happens.

10% free of, LOL. So we have 90% of the problem. Weasel words.

Reply to  davidmhoffer
June 28, 2018 12:17 am

I am wondering how they define ‘heat-related mortality’. I know London is relatively hotter than the rest of the UK but I don’t think we get extreme heat in nine summers out of ten. Even here in East Anglia.

Reply to  davidmhoffer
June 28, 2018 9:57 am

No. There is a concept called increased levels of heat related mortality.

June 27, 2018 11:47 am

“…mortality due to high temperatures could be significantly reduced (15-22 per cent per summer) in London and Paris if we stabilise climate at the lower of the Paris Climate Goals, 1.5°C…”

Well let’s assume (incorrectly) that CAGW is real. If so, the Paris Accord, fully implemented, would not stop temperature rise, it would barely slow it. To stabilize temperatures at 1.5 degrees above LIA would take drastic cuts in emissions that are not required by the Accord, who’s real purpose is to transfer money and wealth from successful capitalist nations, especially the USA.

It seems the authors of the study are living in an alternate reality.

June 27, 2018 11:57 am

Just look what happens when you don’t have enough CO2!


Joe - the non climate scientists
June 27, 2018 12:19 pm

Hispanics adapted the the heat by taking afternoon siestas since for the last 2000 years or so

June 27, 2018 12:20 pm

“…Counterpoint: so would cheap electricity and air condintioning

Mods can you please fix?

Tom Abbott
June 27, 2018 12:34 pm

It’s supposed to be 110F (Heat Index) today in my neck of the woods. It’s no problem because I have the air conditioner going. 🙂

June 27, 2018 1:13 pm

So would one be correct in assuming that this ‘study’ reports the results of model simulations based on quack-medical models which assume summer mortality and average temperature are linearly proportional and which use temperature inputs generated by climastrology models which assume future temperature is linearly proportional to atmospheric [CO2] which in turn are using hypothetical emission scenarios?
Or put another way it’s a guess based on a guess that in turn depends on a guess derived from a guess that depends on one of three guesses?
…yeah, I thought so.
The only worry I have after reading of this feeble excuse for research is that taxes were squandered paying for it.
I also assume that ‘citizen scientists from around the world’ means naive students in the third world were duped into doing the leg-work for free (he postulated knowingly).

June 27, 2018 1:45 pm

Odd, but a quick perusal of uk daily-death data suggests there has been no obvious change during the period 1970 to 2014. Perhaps the supposed increasing deaths from heat are balanced by decreasing deaths from cold? Just when is this tragedy to begin?

June 27, 2018 2:49 pm

You have to laugh – heat waves in London?? It’s 42 years since the country enjoyed – though some say endured – the hottest summer in more than 350 years of records. In 1976 the Central England Temperature (CET) between June and August averaged 17.8C. According to the Met Office, the average maximum temperature was 20.96C. The hottest period occurred between June 23, 1976 and July 7, when for 15 consecutive days the temperature topped 32C (90F) every day at one or more stations in England.
Perhaps they need to take a holiday to some of the really hot places on earth.
Death Valley, California, USA
This currently holds the record for hottest air temperature ever recorded. The desert valley reached highs of 56.7 degrees in the summer of 1913, which would apparently push the limits of human survival. Average temperatures today reach 47 degrees during summer.
Aziziyah, Libya
The former capital of the Jafara district, 25 miles south of Tripoli, used to claim the title of hottest place on earth – in 1922 the temperature was recorded as a sweltering 58 degrees. However, it was stripped of its title in 2012 when meteorologists declared this invalid due to a number of factors, including the fact that the person who recorded it was inexperienced. However, the town still regularly experiences temperatures of over 48 degrees in midsummer.
During the year, there is virtually no rainfall in Wadi Halfa, a sweltering city located on the shores of Lake Nubia in Sudan. June is the hottest month, with average temperature highs of 41 degrees – the hottest temperature ever recorded there was 53 degrees in April 1967.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Robber
June 27, 2018 6:54 pm

I remember the 1976 summer and it is still talked about today. There was a hot summer in the mid 80’s but for the most part, from my recollection up to 1995, summers in England were cool and wet. More people, thousands in fact, die in England from cold every year. 1 or 2 degrees C warmer won’t change that one bit.

Capn Mike
June 27, 2018 3:58 pm

It ain’t the heat it’s the HUMIDITY!! Declare water vapor (yes, and clouds) to be POLLUTANTS!!

Pop Piasa
June 27, 2018 9:38 pm

The climate campaigners (champagners?) not only are vexed with tunnel vision, they are confined to circular thinking patterns due to religious indoctrination by those they regard as prophets and seers of the future.

June 28, 2018 3:13 am

you have an out of place extra N in the header

June 28, 2018 7:53 am

ZOMG, it’s 92.5 (or 93) instead of 91!!!!!!!! We’re doooooooooooomed!!!!!! or something.

These people. Really need the ability to put a facepalm gif here.

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