100% Renewables by 2035 – Surprise New York Primary Winner Takes on Democrat Climate “Moderates”

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Source Wikimedia, author Chillbedextous, licence Creative Commons

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the surprise winner of the NY-14 Primary upset has just proven that the problem with establishment Democrats is they just aren’t committed enough.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Is the Climate Change Hardliner the Planet Needs

Becky Ferreira
Jun 28 2018, 1:01am

Ocasio-Cortez upset the NY-14 primary with a progressive agenda that included transitioning the US to renewables by 2035.

Progressive challenger Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez won the Democratic primary in New York’s 14th district (Bronx/Queens) on Tuesday, beating out her incumbent opponent Joe Crowley, who has been a member of Congress since 1999. The victory was a surprising upset and a key victory for progressives, who are eager to pull the Democratic Party left in spite of hand-wringing from its current moderate leadership.

“This is the start of a movement,” Ocasio-Cortez tweeted in response to her win. “Thank you all.”

Cleverly branding her plan to confront climate change as “a Green New Deal,” Ocasio-Cortez set an ambitious goal to fully transition the United States to renewable energy sources by 2035. Crucially, she spotlighted the economic and social justice impacts of climate change, and warned of the “worldwide refugee crisis” that will result from continuing to marginalize the issue.

“Right now, the economy is controlled by big corporations whose profits are dependent on the continuation of climate change,” her platform reads. “This arrangement benefits few, but comes at the detriment of our planet and all its inhabitants.”

Read more: https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/mbkze3/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-is-the-climate-change-hardliner-the-planet-needs

From Alexandria’s campaign website;

Mobilizing Against Climate Change

In order to address runaway global climate change, Alexandria strongly supports transitioning the United States to a carbon-free, 100% renewable energy system and a fully modernized electrical grid by 2035. She believes renewable fuels must be produced in a way that achieves our environmental and energy security goals, so we can move beyond oil responsibly in the fight against climate change. By encouraging the electrification of vehicles, sustainable home heating, distributed rooftop solar generation, and the conversion of the power grid to zero-emissions energy sources, Alexandria believes we can be 100% free of fossil fuels by 2035.

Furthermore, Alex believes in recognizing the relationship between economic stability and environmental sustainability. It’s time to shift course and implement a Green New Deal – a transformation that implements structural changes to our political and financial systems in order to alter the trajectory of our environment. Right now, the economy is controlled by big corporations whose profits are dependent on the continuation of climate change. This arrangement benefits few, but comes at the detriment of our planet and all its inhabitants. Its effects are life-threatening, and are especially already felt by low-income communities, both in the U.S. and globally. Even in NY-14, areas like Throgs Neck, College Point, and City Island are being affected by erosion and rising sea levels. Rather than continue a dependency on this system that posits climate change as inherent to economic life, the Green New Deal believes that radically addressing climate change is a potential path towards a more equitable economy with increased employment and widespread financial security for all.

Climate change is the single biggest national security threat for the United States and the single biggest threat to worldwide industrialized civilization, and the effects of warming can be hard to predict and self-reinforcing. We need to avoid a worldwide refugee crisis by waging a war for climate justice through the mobilization of our population and our government. This starts with the United States being a leader on the actions we take both globally and locally.

Read more: https://ocasio2018.com/issues#mobilizing-against-climate-change

I agree with Alexandria that the current Democrat leadership, whoever they are at this point in time, don’t seem to be taking climate change seriously.

Imagine for a moment that you truly believed anthropogenic global warming was an imminent deadly threat. If climate change really was an existential crisis, it simply wouldn’t make sense to campaign for or support the adoption of half measures. If you truly believed the future of your children depended on giving up your car, that your kids would all die if you and your neighbours continued to use fossil fuels, wouldn’t you demand everyone immediately give up their car? Wouldn’t you feel anger and frustration towards the self serving complacency of establishment politicians who kept trying to buy you off by offering tiny upward increments to their unambitious renewable targets?

The obvious explanation for mainstream Democrat moderation on climate issues is that most Democrat establishment politicians don’t really believe climate change is a serious issue. They offer a few token measures to win the votes of climate believers, while trying to avoid frightening off rich industrialists who are attracted to some of their other policies.

But hardcore climate fanatics aren’t complete fools. They might be wrong about climate change, but people know when they are just being used by politicians who don’t really care about their concerns.

It was inevitable that someone like Alexandria would arise – a true believer, someone who speaks to the hearts of fellow climate true believers, people who are fed up with being lied to and betrayed by the establishment.

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364 thoughts on “100% Renewables by 2035 – Surprise New York Primary Winner Takes on Democrat Climate “Moderates”

  1. You were very kind to use that picture instead of the ones where she realized she had won the primary !!
    What a nut she be !

    • She is a hardcore socialist.
      Here are her main campaign issues:
      Medicare For All
      Housing As a Human Right
      A Federal Jobs Guarantee
      Gun Control / Assault Weapons Ban
      Criminal Justice Reform, End Private Prisons
      Immigration Justice / Abolish ICE

      • So …
        – bankrupt us with a medical plan that destroys what’s left of market feedback.
        – bankrupt us with a plan that removes a great deal of market feedback from real-estate.
        – bankrupt us with make work jobs without regard to actually doing the work.
        – disarm us so the police can bully us around if we complain, and we can’t defend ourselves from the new criminal “nobility”.
        – don’t bother punishing real criminals, that would just antagonize them.
        – welcome in a flood of invaders who don’t share the values of our nation.

        • Just how many times and by how many ways can one country be bankrupted, anyway. It’s not very funny but it it is a real hoot.

      • Of course the far left wants a total assault weapons ban.
        The only time a person really needs an assault weapon is when they need to protect themselves from a government that wants to take them away.

      • Internal warfare in the USA is tearing your great country apart. The left cannot stand that Hillary lost and Trump won, and they are willing to destroy democracy to reverse that decision.

        I have done business on six continents and have been to Castro’s Cuba and Honecker’s East Germany, entering East Berlin via Checkpoint Charlie. Both countries had no viable economy and no human rights, and yet this is what the ”Progressives” want for America. Simply put, they want to destroy the economy and the country – that is their objective.

        Do Progressives have any idea how well-off they are? Do Progressives have any idea how most of the world lives?

        There are about 220 countries in the world, and about 200 of them are failed or failing, with poor economies, no human rights and no Rule of Law. Do you think this is an accident? This is the Marxist agenda – tear countries down so they can ride in to the rescue and take command. Witness Zimbabwe in Africa and Venezuela in South America – and there are many other countries falling into the same cesspool.

        These self-styled Progressives, the US Democrats, the Canadian Liberals and NDP, and the Socialist and Green Parties worldwide are pawns of the extreme left.

        Many of these imbeciles don’t even know it, but they are following a covert Marxist agenda which is deliberately intended to damage our economies and destroy democracy.

        • What I repeatedly observe, in actual politicians, in pop culture (movies and TV), and in social media “stuff”, is a pervasive belief in the idea that big corporations are the true evil.

          Evil corporations are the ultimate boogeyman to the left. Just as an all powerful fascist government is the ultimate boogeyman to those of us on the right.

          Ms. Ocasio-Cortez is quoted above, saying, “Right now, the economy is controlled by big corporations whose profits are dependent on the continuation of climate change.”

          Words fail to describe my…annoyance…at this imbecilic, childish, and ignorant understanding of how the world works. If I weren’t so inclined to believe in the general incompetence of, well, everybody, it would be easy to claim this was just a ploy by those “damn Marxists” used on weak-minded fools to convince them to hand over true power: governmental authority…

          I totally agree that rent-seeking businesses are disgusting parasites, but they exist at the whim of the government. That they exist at all should be a warning against unnecessary governmental intervention in the free trade between free individuals. Unfortunately, it’s too easy to pillory and demonize “corporations” because of the wealth they generate. By leveraging that ugly human failing called envy, authoritarians can convince masses of people to hand them even more power.

          Sigh…

          rip

        • “June 27, 2018 10:48 pm
          ALLAN MACRAE
          Internal warfare in the USA is tearing your great country apart. The left cannot stand that Hillary lost and Trump won, and they are willing to destroy democracy to reverse that decision”

          A misunderstanding based on MSM hyping every minor protest. Coupled with urban police departments turning a blind eye to violence and hatred wpred by leftists, progressives and crackpots.

          Which brings up the obvious; i.e. who is funding these shindigs? Ideally, the revamped DOJ is tracking the payoffs.

          What your comment overlooks is Trump’s steady favorability rise in polls; even polls performed by strongly left groups, e.g. PEW.

          Trump won the election with an overwhelming county vote, nationwide. Without the uran clusters causing states to vote for HRC, the majority of states are strongly pro-Trump.

          That vote alignment has only strengthened and expanded over the past year.

          ergo; identify whom is funding the domestic terrorists and protests, investigate, indict and convict them.

          One of the many news stories MSM ignores, is socialist Bernie’s income each year the last two years.

          Internal warfare is not tearing this country apart.
          Much like climate discussions, there is a small very hard core group that has rapidly scaled into insanity.
          The good news is that conservative numbers have increased; with more conservatives willing to speak out.

          The more unhinged networks and legislators become in their attempts to distract voters from Trump’s performance and the ongoing revealment of rank government corruption and sedition; the greater the number of people who stop supporting progressives.
          Antifa is a recreation of Hitler’s brownshirts with their violence against literally anyone with which they disagree. Antifa’s violence causes fear and concern among the citizenry’ fear that also causes people to distance themselves away from progressive leftists support for Antifa.

          Thanks to desperate irrational despotic support from leftists, e.g. Podesta, Soros, Steyer, Bloomberg and others, voters are moving center. A position that Democrats lack entirely, nationally.

          Thanks to committed leftist MSM, what seems like a violent revolution, is MSM hyped unlawful acts that should fulfill Thomas Jefferson’s remark that a little revolution is good for the country.

          • “Internal warfare is not tearing this country apart.
            Much like climate discussions, there is a small very hard core group that has rapidly scaled into insanity.”

            Yes, I think that describes the situation much better.

            I wouldn’t be surprised if the violent speech from the radical Leftists doesn’t motivate some unstable person to take violent action, but I don’t think this will happen on a large scale.

            The Silent American Majority is not going to put up with nutcases and radical Leftists perpetrating violence in the United States. The violence will be nipped in the bud.

          • ATheoK and Tony Abbott

            I would like your opinions to be true, but they are not – Obama got elected and Hillary came close. This indicates that about half the voters in the USA have been infected with the Progressive/Marxist virus. Many of these fools don’t even know it – they think they are cool, and smarter than those they disagree with (they are not – see Dunning-Kruger Effect).

            In Canada similar leftist scoundrels/imbeciles were elected: Justin Trudeau om Ottawa, Rachel Notley in Alberta and John Horgan in BC, and Ontario only recently threw out the uber-extreme Kathleen Wynn. Canada’s economy is failing due to the policies of these leftists.

            Across Europe, almost all countries are led by these closet Marxists and their economies are also failing, and have been for decades.

            In the USA, the leftist infection is much more prevalent than a just few violent paid protesters. About half the population in the USA is effectively on the dole, since they consume more than they contribute – these people will usually vote for anyone who promises them more free stuff, like Ms Ocasio-Cortez. She knows what she is doing – it is the standard Marxist formula that has dragged down so many countries in the world.

            The solution is to get the unemployed back to work, which Trump is doing – and a key component is keeping energy costs low, so the USA can compete with China and other low-labour-cost countries. Trump is on the right track to saving the USA, and the Marxists cannot stand it.

            When Marxists want to sabotage a country, they increase energy costs unnecessarily, which cripples the economy. That is the left’s strategy, and it is working, except in the USA, China and a few other countries.

            A key leftist strategy is to cripple the energy industry – examples are endless regulatory snarls and successful anti-pipeline movements – these have cost Canada $120 billion in lost revenues – a huge amount of money that should have been available for industrial re-investment, job creation, health, education, etc.

            The leftists were the scourge of the 20th Century – Hitler, Stalin and Mao killed a total of about 200 million people. Almost 200 countries that once had viable economies are on a downward spiral – Zimbabwe and Venezuela lead the way, but many others follow. That is the Marxist agenda, and it is working.

            Those who fail to learn from history are condemned to repeat it.

        • I published my above comment at
          https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/my-views-us-immigration-policy-satya-nadella/
          and received a response that apparently is the new theme for the extremists.

          Here is my reply:
          [excerpt]
          So Kwasi Darko, you appear to be saying that Trump is the new Hitler. Unlike yours, my family fought and bled in WW2 – we know Hitler all too well – and DONALD TRUMP IS NO HITLER. When the extreme left spouts this nonsense, no sensible person will listen. They have lost all credibility.

        • The “Left” would rather rule in Hell than serve in Heaven. Even if they have to create Hell to do it.

      • small correction:
        She, as well as the other immigration extremists do *not* support immigration justice.
        She supports the opposite:
        She supports immigration lawlessness.
        She is so historically illiterate and intolerant that she wants to deprive Americans of their rights and freedom by overwhelming us with undocumented unlawful immigrants. And seems to believe that her idea is good.
        This cynical socialist wants unjust immigration.

        • She’s pretty on the outside but as ugly as a beast on the inside. I wish her only the worst. The absolute worst.

          • You are absolutely correct. She is a tyrant want-a-be through and through. It is funny to hear NYC residents say we don’t need cars. Just because they want to live in a three dimensional maze like rats does not give them the right to project that onto the rest of us.

        • “undocumented” is their word to diminish what it truly means and the importance of the point “illegal” is the important operative word. Is a car thief the “undocumented” owner of your car after they steal it? The use of “undocumented” is an intentional manipulation to ignore and obfuscate the actual issue, the illegality which is the problem not the “gosh they just don’t have papers”.
          /rant off

          Cheers!

          Joe

      • J Mac, I guess that you are right!
        Her issues should be:
        Medicare just for the rich. Poor’s go die far and stay distant to avoid infect healthy ones.
        Bridges can be houses.
        Federal jobs Guarantee (I agree that this one is impractical).
        Guns for all / Assault Weapons for all (After all westerns are cool)
        Let’s make money from criminals. I want my private prison and lots of convicts to fill it (maybe the last idea on guns can help!).
        End Immigration and abolish ICE retroactively. USA for the Indians!! (ops, from when does it count? After Amerigo Vespucci? From now on?)

        • J N,
          No guessing involved. I am factually accurate. Her campaign issues, as I presented them above, are straight from her own campaign literature and web site. I did not alter or embellish them.

    • Just one more delusional communist. they will continue until a specific level of misery is reached and then they will removed.

  2. This seems like it will turn into a lesson on “How to loose a long time congressional stronghold!” I don’t think the moderate Dems will be able to force themselves to vote for this Kook.

    • I’m not so sure, it will be fascinating to see how Alexandria does. She’s tapping into more than the climate theme, I suspect this upset has been brewing for a long time. If Republicans can have a grassroots revolution, why not the Democrats?

      • I’m hoping this Progressive grassroots revolution toward full blown Statism poses the opportunity for a new “Bernie Party” to act as a thorn in the side of Democrats; much as the Libertarian party sometimes does for Republicans.

          • Not really true Tom. If every Perot vote had gone to Bush, he would still have lost. Most analysts don’t give Bush more than 50% of the Perot vote in any case.

          • Not true, based upon the electoral vote. Perot voters were concentrated in states which would have gone for Bush. For example, Bush would have won AZ but for Perot.

            And Bush would have gotten more than half the Perot vote.

            Perot and Clinton made a corrupt pact to give EDS the contract to run Hillary Care.

          • Perot was no libertarian. He was very protectionist, which is is not a libertarian trait. In my mind we was kind of Trump 1.0, populist and an “outsider”, but he didn’t understand the obvious truth that our voting system necessarily results in a 2 party system.

          • I agree that Perot was no libertarian, but free trade is a libertarian goal not a religious belief. Free trade only works when all sides are trading freely and openly, unlike today when “free trade” has about as much meaning as “welfare” does to the phrase general “welfare” in our constitution. No libertarian would relinquish the ability of the country to protect it self through legitimate economic measures.

          • DJ,
            You have it backwards.
            Clinton never got a majority of the vote.
            In both elections he relued on his pal, H Ross Perot, to divide consercatives.
            Clinton would have run in the low 40’s both times, 1992 and 1996.

          • Not at all true D.J. Hawkins. Perot got 18.9% of the vote. The difference between Bush and Clinton was less than 6% thus only 2/3rds of Perot’s vote (which is far less than “every Perot vote” as you posit) is enough to even out the popular vote numbers.

            Of course, it’s the electoral vote that truly matters, and depending on where would-be Bush votes from Perot are located could easily tip the scales even if Bush got less than half the total Perot votes (ie if the would-be Clinton votes from Perot were mostly located in Deep Blue states [like California], and the would-be Bush votes were concentrated mostly in the states that Clinton only barely won [like Ohio]. Of course, if the opposite was the case, then the Perot votes would be totally irrelevant). However if he got “every Perot vote” as you posited, then yes, Bush would have handily won at 57% to 43% as it would take some really funky math for the electoral map to go the opposite with that kind of point spread (the electoral vs. popular result schism mostly only happens when the vote spread is very close, not when there’s over 10% between the two).

            Ultimately though, Perot would have been a total non-issue had Bush never broken his “read my lips” pledge. As most of the voters who considered that a very important issue (a quarter of the voters according to exit polls) voted for Clinton.

          • Hah, hah, hah! Ross Perot a Libertarian! Good one!

            He was against free trade. He wanted to increase federal government involvement in education. He was an ardent drug warrior. He wanted in implement strict federal gun control laws. He wanted to limit television coverage of elections to five months.

            Maybe on a bizarro world somewhere he’s a Libertarian.

          • Well at least Perot was paid for his betrayal.
            This snowflake appears to beseeking to hurt America for free.

          • Bush did it to himself (reminds you of someone who did it to herself): ‘Read my lips, no new taxes’

      • ” She’s tapping into more than the climate theme,”

        She is also offering free medical insurance and a guaranteed income.

        None of the things she is selling will ever come to fruition. She is another delusional socialist living in a false reality.

        • More and more, the American voter will pick whichever candidate offers them the most free stuff.
          If ever there was an argument for tying the vote to actually paying taxes, this lady would be it.

          • MarkW

            Maybe I was wrong. With this fruit loop gaining popularity, America really is in trouble.

          • Mark W

            You are correct, it took 50 plus years but the socialist and communist have completely taken over our schools and universities and now turn out one indoctrinated leftist after the other. Many of them learn after being out in the real world but the number of them that don’t is growing all the time.

          • Alexis de Tocqueville said that 200 years ago.

            The good news is that in the last Presidential election, “middle America” voted for individual freedom over “free stuff”.
            I worried over how long we could maintain the barricades.

            But Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters, the MSM, and now Alexandria and Bernie came to our aid; clearly demonstrating what the alternative was. America is not that stupid.

            DJT needs to stay the course and NOT try to find a middle ground.

          • “Nobody ever did poorly by underestimating the stupidity of the average man”. Remember, 50% of the population is below the median IQ!

          • Unfortunately IQ has very little to do with it, many times people with higher IQ’s are the dangerous ones because they can both self delude and convince others at the same time. The global warming mob are a prime example.

          • I think that was a George Carlin line:
            You know how stupid the average man is? Well half of them are dumber than that.

          • I highly recommend Dan Carlin’s Hardcore History podcast series episodes covering the Fall of the Roman Republic. It was probably the most time he’s spent on any one subject and it was multiple hours. He’s pretty good as an honest commentator. I think often about this watching what’s going on here in the US Now. When the politicians have their own armies/gangs we’re getting close.

          • Barbarians from without – true to a point. But there were a lot of barbarians and slaves within. Non-citizen Romans, former soldiers, pissed off business people, the landless masses, a self-perpetuating senate – the lists are long. The solutions were extreme, ultimately. Julius Caesar was really the end of the Republic, rather than beginning of the Roman Empire that followed.

            Civil wars are a b!tch

          • Poll, darnit, poll. Not pole. Yeesh, even with the ‘edit’ feature, one should proofread.

        • Let’s see, she went from being a waitress or something to potentially making a $175k per year. Not too bad for a commie. Maybe she really is a capitalist. LOL

      • I agree. Folks are very unhappy. That’s why we have President Trump. As far as I can tell, Hillary stole the nomination. If that hadn’t happened, I suspect that a lot of Trump voters would have gone to Sanders.

        You can’t understand American politics without reading this study. Folks are literally sick to death of being ignored and cheated both by Democrats and Republicans. They really don’t care if they bring the whole thing crashing down around their own ears.

        Josh Marshall called the election. Michael Moore called the election. Thomas Frank called the election in his book Listen Liberal. It’s not like some folks on the left didn’t realize what was going to happen. The arrogant twits who took over the Democrat party weren’t, and still aren’t, listening.

          • I don’t remember the socialist-marxist saying anything about tax cuts, taming regulations and border security. Not one iota actually.

          • With the bottom half of income earners paying less than 1% of all income taxes, there aren’t many taxes left that a socialist would be interested in cutting.

        • Well she’s promising the liberal dream….it’s going to be fun sitting back and watching her not be able to deliver….reality sucks

          • As long as you realize that a nightmare is also a dream. 🙂

            The now former premier of Ontario (Canada), a reprehensible ideologue, just got her derriere handed to her in the recent election. Such people find it remarkably easy to alienate the voters. Good luck Alexandria.

        • Michael Moore called the election? Really? I seem to recall him claiming Trump wouldn’t make it to Election Day.

      • The complement to the Republican grassroots already exists in the Bernie-ites. Alexandria is more of the same in an Hispanic district.
        Each movement, on both sides, will bring out the fringes.
        IMO, Trump won the vote of the “disenfranchised” middle.
        It is my opinion that the more the Dems move to the left the more Independent and middle American voters Trump picks up.
        (Holding off the SCOTUS vote ’til after the midterms should INCREASE the right leaning electorate vote turn out.)

        • Well exactly…..in this country, the democrat party represents the dregs of our society

      • I think you are spot on there Eric although, as you know, Iin Oz we have The Greens as a safe place for these eco loons to play. Otherwise the Ausytralian Labor Party (Democrat approximation) would rip itself apart much as the Democracts will if these zealots get a grip on some of those inner urban hipstervilles.

      • It will be interesting.
        But I think it goes beyond “Republican” ” Democrat”.
        I think people who haven’t voted in years came out to vote for Trump after all the primaries were over because:
        1. It was clear just what Hillary was.
        2. Trump wasn’t an “Obamalite” as Romney was.

        Years ago the Democrats were taken over by it’s “Wild Wing”. (Hippy Wing? Moonbeam Wing?)
        Whatever you want to call them, they stopped being a party that thought the best way to preserve the nation that valued personal freedom (The Declaration of Independence) founded on The Constitution and The Bill Rights was to, say, spend more money on books rather than bullets, but rather a party trying to find ways around them.

        The Republicans were taken over by it’s “Mild Wing”.
        “Don’t make waves.”
        Reagan and Trump were not the “Mild Wings”.

        That’s why they got the votes to win.

        Time will tell how the “definitions” of both parties will change.
        It’s not the party’s name, it’s what for stand for over time.

        • I have a friend who lives in Columbus, Ohio. He said they were coming out of the hills packed in pick up trucks. People who seldom voted and who had given up on electoral politics for decades showed up at he polls.

    • Sorry Jake, it’s New York. The district is half Hispanic. She is Hispanic and that is why she beat the old white man. Hispanic voters and Yellow Dog Democrats will vote for her, and they won’t have slightest knowledge of, interest in, or care about her platform. A Hispanic name, and the Democrat Party ballot line and she is in.

      • I’m happy to have the mediagenic Ms. O-C be the fresh, new face of the Dumpocrap Party.

        Unless in seven years, she’s the reincarnation of Obama.

    • A moderate Democrat in todays world seems to be one that doesn’t put on a black outfit and mask and go hunting conservatives with clubs. She’s a Millennial and truly represents that generation and differs form other Democrats only in her honesty in stating she will impose liberal fascism on the nation. The moderate Democrats simply lie and deceive following their history, ala “keep your doctor” while busily fundamentally changing America.
      For those reasons, she’ll be the elected Congressperson from that district. Likely by a landslide.

  3. “sustainable home heating”

    What is sustainable home heating? Is it a regular diet of beans so that you can fart your way to warming your house? If you are depending on electricity to heat your house because fossil fuels are banned and your power generator does not have a nuclear plant or a hydro source, how do you survive the long cold winter night when the wind isnt blowing?

    • Alan… I suspect dietary beans will be verboten, to keep methane emissions contained, what with methane being, what, 200 times a more potent than CO2 as an GHG !

      • Be prepared for the socialists to demand that you share your blankets with those who can’t afford them.

    • New York advocates for sustainable home heating refer to air source heat pumps powered by renewables including solar. Nothing wrong with that other than the fact that air source heat pumps don’t work when it is really cold and solar in New York is pretty much worthless in the winter. What could go wrong?

      • Yup, air source heat pumps ice up when it gets too cold. You’ll need an alternate heat source.

        • Those sold in cold regions have resistance heaters. Ours is about 15 years old. Needs electric power. We, therefore, have a modern wood stove and lots of wood. Power does go out, but rarely where we live.

          • …..power hardly goes out because lefties haven’t finished their “climate change” policies yet.
            This young dreamer will make certain your power goes out a lot more.

    • Alan,
      Sustainable home heating is cutting, hauling, stacking, drying, and burning 3 full cords of firewood each year. It is free, sustainable Healthcare also.

        • Alan Tomalty

          Precisely why the western world turned to electricity from centralised coal burning power stations. And with current, and future technology, particulate emissions from them can be reduced to as near zero as makes no odds.

        • You really don’t understand humor and sarchasm, do you Alan? And you offer a straw man argument: “If everybody did that…” Shame on you.

          ‘Everybody’ won’t do it. Why? Because it is hard work! Alexandria O-C and all of her ‘give me free stuff’ supporters won’t do it because it is bloody damn hard work!
          They won’t mine the coal, work as roustabouts on oil and gas rigs, shovel animal crap out of the barn and put hay and grain into it, or do anything similar because it is dirty, hard, dangerous manual labor ‘work’.

      • First they’ll mandate wood stoves as they use “sustainable fuel” while at the same time mandating home owners rip out the big bad electric/gas/oil heaters presently installed. Next they’ll limit the number of trees that can be cut per year because logging is “bad” for the environment. Then they’ll ban burning wood during temperature inversions because the smoke just hangs around at ground level and as we all know breathing in smoke is bad. Last of all they’ll ignore or out right ban mentioning how many people die due to lack of heating for their house so we’ll all live happily ever after or until 30 when we are turned into sustainable food.

    • Just trying to picture NYC being run entirely on solar and wind… they’d have to take all of Jersey to do it, but maybe that’s the whole plan!

  4. The Climate Cuckaloos are doubling and tripling down on Crazy Extreme Climate Whackoism now, because they know they’re losing.

  5. “But hardcore climate fanatics aren’t complete fools.”

    So, they are incomplete fools?

    • A great turn of phrase; but he’s saying that the hardcore realise their party is lying to them (as does everyone else).

  6. I wonder what her stance is on nuclear fission power plants? As far as I can see only nuclear fission plants are suitable for base load carbon free electricity. Any other stance is truly unicorns and fairy dust.

    • The rest of the New York Democrat establishment is 100% against it. Even to the point of shutting down working plants.

  7. 2035 is less than 17 years away. Tesla has been around for almost as long with a lot of support from governments, can’t survive without it and can’t produce a product that consumers would buy except for the novelty. Love to know why she is so confident that it can be done.

  8. Obama with boobies. Many CIA agents are running for office this year, some covertly. Her bio hints at her connections. All in the family? Wiki neglects to mention her father’s identity.

  9. “…strongly supports transitioning the United States to a carbon-free, 100% renewable energy system and a fully modernized electrical grid by 2035. She believes renewable fuels must be produced in a way that achieves our environmental and energy security goals, so we can move beyond oil responsibly in the fight against climate change. By encouraging the electrification of vehicles, sustainable home heating, distributed rooftop solar generation, and the conversion of the power grid to zero-emissions energy sources, Alexandria believes we can be 100% free of fossil fuels by 2035.” She mouths all the alarmist buzz-words, but never once addresses HOW this magical transformation will take place. Even “…distributed rooftop solar…” may sound like a concrete proposal only if one ignores who will pay for them and how they’ll actually do any good, since most homes don’t have enough rooftop to power the entire home, so integration etc. Everything else is gibberish, kind of like the stuff you get out of a random word generator. (Does anyone else remember a Corporate Mission Statement Generator? Same thing.) Looks like she’s laying out an agenda too tall for even pixie dust and unicorn farts to handle.

    • There aren’t enough roof tops in NY city to support distributed solar generation. Silly bimbo.

  10. From the article: “We need to avoid a worldwide refugee crisis by waging a war for climate justice”

    Or we could just build a wall.

      • It’s easy to find people overstaying their visas. It’s hard for most illegals even to get a visa in the first place.

        Having sensors lower in the ground will make it easier to detect tunneling.

      • “…overstaying their visa.”

        “…tunnel underneath it.”

        Both of which are potentially an order of magnitude more efficient to manage and control than a wall-less border, else, everyone would be overstaying their Visa’s and digging tunnels.

          • Sure, but it also matters how many Visas are issued versus how many cross the border illegally, and how many individuals actually overstay.

            Here’s the DHS report (emphasis added):

            “The report specifies that U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) processed 50,437,278 in-scope nonimmigrant admissions at U.S. air and sea POEs who were expected to depart in FY16—of which 739,478 overstayed their admission, resulting in a total overstay rate of 1.47 percent.”

            https://www.dhs.gov/news/2017/05/22/dhs-releases-fiscal-year-2016-entryexit-overstay-report

          • Of course many of those weren’t from Latin American countries.

            But as I said. It would be easy to track down visa violators, if ICE were willing to get tough with those who sponsored or were visited by the miscreants.

          • Why not do both?

            Get rid of middle and upper class visa violators and uneducated ripper-offers of the system, drug runners, insurance fraudsters, anchor baby mothers and unaccompanied teenage anchors.

            The millions of illegals who actually work and contribute, without taking US jobs, can be admitted as legal guest workers, as under the Bracero program.

          • “Why not do both?”
            ..
            Because dollar for dollar building a wall is less cost effective. For one reason, it does nothing to decrease the number of illegals that already are here.

          • You’re not factoring in stopping terrorists and drug smugglers.

            The most expensive option is increasing the number of BP and ICE personnel.

            DHS claims they catch more than half of border crossers. I call BS on that. That’s how they derive only 600,000 attempts per year.

            IMO they don’t catch even 25%, which means well over a million a year.

            Have you ever even been to the border? I’ve walked, driven, flown or floated ever single mile of it. For most stretches more than once. My brother lives on it. My friends in the NG patrol it.

            I live in a part of WA State with a huge and growing illegal population, which means ever more rural crime. How many visa violators kill, maim, rape, pillage and plunder? Insurance fraud, maybe.

            Sorry, sir, but you are deeply, truly and utterly clueless.

          • LMAO @ Felix: “stopping terrorists”
            ..
            FYI no wall would not have stopped the 9/11 terrorists. They were here on visas!!!!!

            In fact, can you provide us with a count of how many terrorists have been “caught” crossing the boarder?

          • You’ll won’t be laughing when they blow your A off.

            My reply is in moderation because of all the links to terrorists crossing the southern border I supplied.

            Out to lunch. Like, totally.

          • Remy,
            Frankly your argument us evil and irrational.
            In banks, the security systems are not 100% effective and are exoensive.
            But we have vaults, locks, alarms and guards.
            In WW2 amti-submarine efforts were not 100%, but we used anti-submarine tactics and weapons.
            Your argument seems to be “why bother”, and you lie about the source of the main problem.
            As well as to dismiss the impact illegals have on the border.

          • “… building the wall will have no effect on the overstay rate, correct?”

            I would say you’re right about that, but they’re two different POE’s. From a management perspective, it remains much easier to manage Visa overstays than it does an open border. E.g., we could simply stop issuing Visas and by default that would stop the overstay problem.

            I don’t think it’s unreasonable to believe that with a willing DHS a border wall will significantly reduce illegal entry into the United States.

          • We could stop tourist and student visas to countries with a high share of violators.

            And threaten businesses, schools, organizations and individuals sponsoring violators with jail time.

          • Good ideas, and guess what……much less expensive, and more effective than building a stupid wall.

            So if any of the workers at Mar-a-Lago overstayed their work-visa, would we throw Trump in jail?

          • Contract workers such he used, typically Polish, don’t overstay their visas.

            The marina where I keep my boat was built by Polish workers. Not a single one even thought about overstaying his visa. Nor could he easily have done so, even if he wanted to do so.

            You are beyond clueless.

          • “Not a single one even thought about overstaying his visa” .
            ..
            Please see sycomputing’s post above where he claims “of which 739,478 overstayed” …. almost 1.5%

          • How many of those he cited were Polish construction workers? I’m betting zero.

            Do you realize how silly you sound?

          • The only thing that sounds silly is someone that extrapolates from a few Polish workers to the entire cohort of imported laborers. Yup Felix, every single worker on a visa is just like your Polish construction worker . I didn’t realize that your experience with one or two Polish guys applies to the millions of foreign workers we have.

          • Can you really be this dense?

            You’re the one who suggested that Trump should be held accountable for his project workers. I’m saying that he doesn’t need to worry, since the companies with which he contracts wouldn’t dare let them go missing.

            I have no quibble whatsoever with Sy’s estimate of the total number of visa violators.

            Sorry, but did you sustain a head injury as a child?

      • We have a very dangerous third world craphole on our southern border….it’s wide open
        They are trying to have an election and over 100 of the people running for office have been murdered…gangs are cutting people’s heads off like ISIS…burning people alive….and gunning people down in schools..drugs are rampart and so are very dangerous gangs
        People are walking across…they don’t want to come here legally..they don’t have a visa..children are being trafficked and raped by the very people that were paid to bring them here

        What kind of stupid doesn’t at least want to build a wall?

      • If a wall won’t help, why do the Democrats oppose it?

        You’re seriously expecting us to believe that the reason Democrats don’t want a wall is… because it would cost too much? LOL.

          • He could, as I’ve suggested, via remittances to Mexico from illegals here.

            Why am I not surprised that you and Kim Junk Un are of a mind?

          • No need to distinguish. All WU and similar remittances to targeted countries, ie those with high shares of visa violators and arrested border crossers, are subject to tax.

            Easy.

          • LOL @ Felix, so when GM of the USA pays GM in Mexico for the 15,000 engines it assembled and imported, they get taxed?

            People buying cars here in the USA are not going to like the increased prices.

          • Let me put it into simple terms for you Felix so even you can comprehend. You can’t tax bitcoin. If WU gets taxed, then the senders will find alternative methods of transfer. If you can smuggle human beings from Mexico into the USA, it’s just as easy to smuggle suitcases full of cash from the USA into Mexico.

          • Do you seriously believe that guys working illegally for a yard care outfit are going to entrust their cash to a smuggler?

            Or that they’ll trust Bitcoin not to drop 50% in value during the transfer?

            What color is the sky on your home planet?

            Is Remy your real name? [Snip. Unnecessary. -mod]

          • LOL @ Felix….guess you’ve never gone to a US Post office an purchased a money order. Did you know that you can put that money order into an envelope and send it any where in the world without getting taxed? How about inter-bank transfers? How do you know the money leaving the USA for the Cayman Islands isn’t going to an account owned by a Mexican National?
            ..
            You need to seriously investigate how money moves, because you’ve shown how ignorant of it you are.

          • Pretty sure I’ve moved a lot more money internationally than you have.

            And what do you propose that the illegal alien going to the USPS do for ID? His documents or lack thereof will be checked electronically you know, against a database.

            Apparently you’ve never heard of the US money laundering laws which make it impossible for US citizens to get bank accounts in foreign countries, or to send money to them, especially Latin America, without extensive wait periods and BG checks.

            As if Mexican gardeners will open Cayman accounts. They don’t even have bank accounts in the US.

            You really should get out more. I’ve yet to encounter anyone able to type who is less in touch with 21st century reality.

          • I’ve transferred large sums, enough to live on for ten years, plus house buying, medical and legal expenses, from the US to Chile, where my wife lives and works, and other South American countries.

            Before that to Europe, Africa, Australia and the Middle East.

            Do you want to see my wire transfer documents?

            How much have you transferred?

          • Enough to build a dozen 5000+ sq foot data centers around the world. Oh, and they’re stuffed with state of the art gear too. On the other hand, wives can get pretty expensive…..

          • She’s expensive and worth it. Her family, too.

            You personally transferred from your bank accounts these sums? Wow.

          • You constantly demand evidence, yet none provided will ever meet your endlessly nebulous criteria. You never concede even a minor point. Any nuance in someone’s argument you attack as weakness. You regurgitate talking points ad nauseum. You therefore argue not in good faith, but from invincible ignorance.

    • Please forgive me for invoking stereotypes – but have the girl’s utterances been stolen from a provincial beauty pageant contestant somewhere?

  11. “100% renewable energy system and a fully modernized electrical grid by 2035” — campaign website

    So…what currently constitutes a “renewable energy system” aside from Solar, Wind, Hydro, and Geothermal? Last time I bothered to check the state of photovoltaics, they generally weren’t as efficient at converting photons to electrons as we would need in order to replace converting a long chain carbon into heat to spin a turbine. Wind is not dependable and its effectiveness goes down the more wind generators you place in close proximity. Hydro works pretty well, so long as you are near moving water. Geothermal has some serious issues with maintenance costs being quite high. It seems counterintuitive to switch from a highly reliable source of electrical generation to those of lesser reliability, especially when your population is increasing and by extension the demands being placed upon the nation’s power grid.

    • Ciphertext

      Didn’t someone, somewhere (possibly on WUWT) say ‘If the solution seems simple, it isn’t’.

      Wind turbines and solar energy seem logical solutions until one speaks to an engineer who will immediately point out the indeterminacy, the back up required for that, which for a city can’t be batteries, the location (solar is next to useless in the UK) and the staggering amount of materials and land required to provide sufficient energy for a city, never mind a country.

      This short article gives us some idea of what’s required. 2% is especially important in this article.

      http://www.rationaloptimist.com/blog/wind-still-making-zero-energy/

  12. More proof that Americans are fed up with politics status quo. Progressives are becoming the mouthpiece for the Democratic party and the Socialists are wiping up the rear (pun intended). Moderates will be winning the war and established Republicans and Democrats will see a realignment and new order replacing them. “Climate Change” will not become a party platform in the foreseeable future due to general populace ambivalence. NGO’s will continue pushing the CC narrative until their funding dries up because the backers are tired of putting money into a losing cause. The UN will continue bleating their CC message of doom because it’s their road to One World Government but without NGO and major nations support their message will be lost.

  13. “In order to address runaway global climate change, Alexandria strongly supports transitioning the United States to a carbon-free, 100% renewable energy system and a fully modernized electrical grid by 2035.”

    This is pure delusion.

    This leftist thinks it is a runaway warming trend, which is a LIE!

    Socialists/communists needs to grow up and drop the idiotic proclamations by advocating a political system that is a proven failure!

    • She can just fill up her car with water, it does contain twice as much hydrogen than oxygen on a molar basis, and hydrogen is a great fuel.

    • Yes. DSA was begun by communist revolutionaries who realized that violent revolution was not imminent in the USA. The strategy was to go mainstream and transform our country from within the system. One of the kooks who drove our DHS Secretary from a restaurant in DC was a DSA member and employee of the Justice Department. They are well ensconced. Read Stanley Kurtz’ “Radical-in-Chief” to get an interesting perspective on the serious communist threat that has been gestating for decades in our beloved country.

    • They tend to be totalitarians. Environmentalism is a means to the end of controlling society. They are not fools but they are perverse.

  14. I’ve always said – I’ll get serious about climate change when anyone else does.

    I mean, if this is an all hands on deck situation, why would we shut down a single nuclear power plant before we absolutely had to? Why would we tear out dams? If this is a crises, then act like it.

    If she can explain that, then she’ll have my respect, but not my vote.

  15. Most of her constituents are recent arrivals from “socialist” regions. A larger turnout may wrk against her though.

  16. Phrases that come to mind . . .
    We live in interesting times (again).
    You can’t make this stuff up.
    Popcorn time.
    Eating their own.
    Straight from the Pol Pot manual on socialist ascendancy.
    The USA and Europe are a never ending source of extreme adult entertainment.

  17. Jacinda Ardern (New Zealand Prime Minister) = free stuff + fight climate change.
    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez = free stuff + fight climate change.
    See ya I’m going into politics; too easy . . .

    • Well, she’s just popped out a baby, so most NZ’ers will be teary-eyed and smitten by Ardern’s “mirracle” that NZ’ers won’t care for the extra they have to pay to save the planet, just that little New Zealand, bit of the planet. The rest of the world will continue to warm, apparently. Oh! And the free stuff that will be funded by taxes….oh wait, that is proven to NEVER work! D’oh!

  18. While an very interesting outcome, actually far worse for Democrats than Republicans, it does show that socialists are more than a passing fad. However, there are 700K people in the NY 14th Congressional district. Only 27K voted in the Democratic Primary and Ocasio-Cortez got less than 16 thousand votes. Apparently she is a supposedly educated as a microbiologist. She was endorsed and financially supported by a whose who of far left moneyed NGOs, e.g., MoveOn.org, Black Lives Matter, etc. She claims not to take money from corporations. Which I assume means not directly from corporations but only when washed through groups like MoveOn.org. I guess Soros doesn’t doesn’t count as an evil capitalist. She fundamentally is beating the same drum, playing to the same old bases as any other Leftist Democrat. The 14th District apparently is much younger and even more Hispanic (50%) than just a decade ago. This should send a bit of a shock through the NY City and state Democratic establishment. The question is whether the establishment Democrats counter or move in farther left. Right now what National Democratic leaders are saying is that Ocasio-Cortez’s primary win means nothing.

  19. You can’t fight every battle, and this one was a lost cause from the start (demographically).

    “never interrupt your enemy while they are making a mistake”
    ‘specially if they don’t know it.
    Sometimes you feel a little sorry for them.

    • It’ll be interesting to see how well Jared Polis, the Dem running for governor of Colorado fares. He has pretty much the same renewable energy goals as Alexandria.

      On a more personal side, he is rearing two little boys along with his husband.

  20. All of these outrageous Trump teeets and speeches have the designed purpose of driving the Democrat party left before the midterms. I don’t care for it myself, but Trump lives under their skin and brings out their latent lunacy, and he knows it.
    I’ve always been puzzled by people, on both sides of the isle, who think that the opposition president is some kind of idiot. They never are.
    Trump is no idiot and as long as the ‘Resisters’ believe it, he’s going to have his way with them. Democrats just knocked off a formidable opponent.

    • GWB is far from an idiot, also, just an inarticulate speaker. Naturally the partisan press didn’t let a single “Bushism” go unreported during his terms.

      • Somebody put together a montage of Obama speaking off the cuff.
        When he wasn’t reading someone else’s words, the man was an idiot.

      • Used to agree with you, but over the years I have seen GW make more and more inconsistent and ignirant moves.
        His refusal to even try to seriously critique Obama’s destructive hsrmful policies, his willingness to go after Trump, his family breaking their word and not supporting the 2016 nominee.

        • This idea that one must support Trump in order to be on the right team is crazy to me. I was absolutely, vociferoulsy, against Trump during the nomination process, and was convinced that he was simply a wolf in sheep’s clothing. To me, Bush’s refusal to support was a credit to him. And frankly, I still stand by the rationale I used to make that decision at the time. He had all the hallmarks of a snake oil salesman and a chronic narcissist, and I will defend anyone who came to the same conclusion.

          That Trump has managed to accomplish what he has is an incredibly pleasant surprise to me. And in as much as he continues to work towards things that I value, I will absolutely support him. This does NOT mean that I will avoid criticizing him.

          In fact, I’m amazed that some people have apparently made criticizing him the same as being unpatriotic! Since when do we owe allegiance to a man?!? Pathetic. He’s no messiah. He’s just a brash, broken, faulty human like the rest of us. He will continue to make dumb, banal, mistakes that should be pointed out by the free citizens of this country. (Note: we’re “CITIZENS”, not “subjects”…there’s no “long live the king” required here!) We can all hope, that just like every other president before him, his successes will outnumber, or outweigh, his mistakes. Nothing more is required.

          Respectfully,

          rip

          • Trump has his personal idiosyncracies (as do we all), none of which are criminal, but he is not a wolf in sheep’s clothing. He is sincere about Making America Great Again, and is doing a pretty good job of it.

            I agree, if he makes mistakes he should be held accountable, but as far as I can see, he has made very few mistakes to this point.

            I think we all got very lucky on Nov. 8, 2016.

    • Minor nit

      aisle is something you walk down
      isle is something you find in the tropics with lots of coconut trees.

  21. She’s likable, but she’s such a young, naive candidate. There is ZERO chance of totally renewable energy by 2035 or even 2085 unless some new form of renewable energy is discovered. You could have solar panels plastering half the country and still it is not enough. Paraphrasing President John Adams: If you’re not a liberal when you’re young you have no heart, but if you’re not a conservative when you are older you have no brain.

        • If you don’t vote Socialist/Communist before you are twenty, you have no heart – if you do vote Socialist/Communist after you are twenty, you have no head.

          Georges Clemenceau

  22. It is very interesting that Alexandria took out Nancy Peloci’s far left challenger by being even more left wing. The ideological divide is becoming wider.
    I welcome a DJT vs Ocasio-Cortez/Bernie choice (whether or not she heads the ticket).
    I believe that increases my party’s chances. However if the left wins, I will not abandon my principles but will join the “opposition” (not “resistance”) party.

  23. Huh. So I guess billionaire-on-paper Musk, billionaire for real Pickens, and multimillionaire Gore are dependent on the continuation of climate change? Okay.

    • Indeed they are, they’ve made millions off of their demagoguery of AGW. Gore more so than the other two.

  24. Thank the Founders for Federalism. Pockets of socialism like this are always interesting and entertaining. They are useful in allowing everyone to experience and see what socialists are and what they stand for.
    Climate Change is only a means to an end for these people.

    • It seems that every new generation needs to be inoculated anew against the siren call of socialism, ie free stuff.

  25. What is spooky is that lots of folks had to vote for this person for her to win. I guess ignorance and nonsense is even more rampant than even I thought it was and that’s a stretch. NY, NJ, most of New England, and all of the west coast I guess have no concept of history. The failed USSR, Venezuela, Cuba and all of the other worker’s paradises? But then look how good they have it in communist China, not. Of course they are more faciast now or some kind of crony capitalists with a one party system and apparently now a dictator.

  26. The Democrat Party is increasingly becoming dependent on mental greentardation to support its existence… This is far more dangerous to liberty and prosperity than when they were only dependent on voter addiction to OPM (other people’s money).

    • Socialism, open borders, public unions, trial lawyers and identity politics is all the modern Democrat Party has to offer. It won’t be enough.

      IMO the GOP might lose some House seats, due to activist court interference in elections, but it will hang on with no more than normal mid-term losses. The GOP will probably gain a few seats in Congress.

      Nightmarish dashing of Communist hopes for a blue (should be red) wave of resistance against Trump.

        • That’s how it used to be, but the networks got together before the 2000 election and decided that they didn’t want to associate Democrats with Communists, although of course, that’s as should be.

          • It’s funny how Republicans simply embraced “red.” It’s just a color on a map and one of three colors on our flag.

            https://us-east-1.tchyn.io/snopes-production/uploads/2010/06/TX-US_Flags.jpg

            I’ll leave it to readers’ to decide which flag I’m referring to.

            Without a sensitivity to being compared to socialists, Communists or Marxists… I’m good with red. Just don’t make us pink, or rainbows or green… Well, green is OK… It’s what we color oil on well logs and maps. Green would actually be better than red. Natural gas is colored red. And… Blue is what we color water… All blue on the resistivity curve = Dry hole… How appropriate!

          • This is ironic, and actually counter-intuitive to me. I have to remind myself, often, that red is Republican here in the states, and isn’t a reference to communism. I guess some instincts die harder than others.

            rip

      • Justice Kennedy just announced his retirement.

        I think Trump should demand a physical examination of some of the older liberals on the bench. Just to see if they died and are being propped up until after Trump leaves office.

  27. I sometimes enjoy playing with absurdity. Point one is constitutional law. Article 1, section 1, starts out with, all legislative powers herein granted…, blatantly states that anything not authorized for the federal government is forbidden. A green new deal is forbidden without the required amendments to the U.S. Constitution. The F.D.R. new deal was also in violation of law. The problem is that people will commit crimes regardless of law. Point two is about the “carbon-free” 100% renewable energy system. I think it can be argued that besides not using coal and petroleum because they contain carbon, for wind and solar generation, for building, shipping parts and erecting wind mills should meet the same standard. For wind mills, no carbon fiber, no Kevlar, no resins, no plastics, including nylon,, no lubricating oils and greases, no wood or other plant materials like cotton and linin , no leather and wool, and so on can not be used, because they all contain carbon. All organics and some inorganics contain carbon. The same problems can show up in various forms of solar generation. Also, in metallurgy that may be required for power lines, transformers, switch gear and breakers, poles and towers, shafts and gear boxes and gears, besides mining, refining and shipping, how does one obtain the required temperature to produce the needed metals and products? Except for metal hulls, even canoes are made of organic materials that contain carbon.

  28. This is awesome. Being such an extreme, left wing nut job, she should do a very good job at marginalizing the Democratic vote amongst the New York electorate. Even in New York, the general population would have to see her policies as ludricrous and unworkable.

  29. Can’t someone ask to sit with her for a national broadcast to explain, with charts, how this will be done technically and at what cost financially and company-termination-wize?

    Repeatedly offer no-attack opportunity?

    • Leftists like her are completely innumerate.

      Remember, numbers are tools of White Supremacy and the Patriarchy!

    • Doug,
      It’s never about facts. It is always about emotions. Especially when addressing the masses.

  30. As dumb as she obviously seems to be, what does this say about the many people who voted for her?

  31. Having studies this for an hour or two, Ocasio-Cortez is a good thing and mostly good will come from this.
    Moderates lefties don’t like this development.
    Just reading a bunch of tweets reveals many are pissed at the uniparty for aiding and meddling in OS matters (while the USA rusts & rots) + military complex overspending and aggrandisement.
    They’re saying spend the money on us.
    They want more free stuff and feel good enviro initiatives for everyone (except big business and big politics).
    Many decades of excesses by the uniparty will increasingly be answered by growing excesses of the left.
    We want more Trump.
    They want more welfare and climate action.
    Interesting . . .

    • Wow indeed! So whatdoyathink could I opt for some free housing in New Zealand as is my natural right of course? Nothing special, mind, I’d settle for a plot in Auckland Botanical Gardens or thereabouts. Cheers back.

  32. Since what she wants cant be done with all the will to do you can marshal, its plain naivete. Do these people not know that to even get started, we would have to burn 100s of Gt more of coal, all the oil and gass you can produce to make these fantasy renewable electrical generators?

    You cant make aluminum, steel and glass using windmills and solar panels. You cant open a new mine for coal, mines and concentrators and chemical plants and refineries for lithium, rare earth metals, iron aluminum, silica, etc in less than ~ten years. Ditto for manufacture and installation.

    Financing would be in the 100s of trillions. A lithium mine and chemical plant to produce only 30,000t of lithium hydroxide or carbonate costs 3/4 of a billion bucks. Tufting the globe with windmills and glazing it with solar panels, would require increasing capacity of all these sectors by a factor of millions . Insufficient labor is available for all this. Engineering the worlds mega project would use up more than the 15 years to target date before we could get started.

    So where is the cash going to come from is the first giant hurdle to clear? Never mind the other hurdles until you solve this one.

  33. She seems to be interested in electricity, rather than all forms of energy.
    She has a lot of learning to do as she, with advisers, try to formalize here ideas.

  34. “the economy is controlled by big corporations whose profits are dependent on the continuation of climate change,” wtf?? She must mean wind and solar companies😁

  35. Sooooooo……
    What does she drive?
    How often does she fly?
    How does she heat her house?
    How does she cook her food?
    How is her electricity generated (is she connected to the grid)?
    Does she wear synthetics?
    Does she take pharmaceuticals?
    Has she totally eliminated the fossil fuel footprint from her life?
    Is she simply JAGH?
    JAGH … Just Another Green Hypocrite

    • Bryan A

      Try her pension contributions. I doubt there’s more than a handful of pension funds that don’t invest in fossil fuel.

    • I’ve had several greenies tell me that unless everyone does it, it makes no sense for just one person to do it.
      Of course these same people will turn around and declare that the US must adopt these policies, even if no other country does.

    • However something doesnt compute here. On the Guardian site that has the CO2 countdown clock or CO2 emmissions clock the rate is about a 1000 tons per second which works out to 31.5GT per year. However on the Poodwaddle site above, it also has a CO2 emissions clock and since almost exactly 1/2 of the year is gone it shows only a little over 4 GT. So at the end of the year that would be only 8GT. I understand it now. The Poodwaddle site is in error by labeling it CO2 when it should be labeled just C. This mistake is made so many times because 1 carbon = 3.66 CO2 So comparing the 2 sites if you multiply the Poodwaddle figure (4.04) by 3.66 = 14.786 and then by 2.02 to complete the year you get 29.867 CO2. Okay close enough because both clocks will change rates during the year and maybe they take different sources. So rounding we get ~30 to 31 GT CO2 per year that mankind is putting out. Then of course there is the Global warming potential of methane versus carbon and the whole thing gets messy. Not to mention that places like China lie all the time about their figures and they have to constantly correct them. A very inexact accounting exercise. A perfect one for all the governments in the world . Their bureaucracies love inexact accounting endeavors. I actually think it will be harder to get rid of all the Carbon bureaucracies of all the governments than it will be to overturn the global warming hoax itself.

  36. “Socialist” is just a misleading word for “communist”, she’s a communist. “social justice” ugh, another cancerous ideologue.

    “100% renewable by 2035”.. “social justice” ugh.. this is why socialists will never have any power in the US, their ideas are toxic to 75% of the population.
    The only reason she even got in, is because of how bad the Dems are.. the party is disintegrating. But even with the Dems being as bad as they are, even still, this is far as the socialist wing will get.

    What are the odds this lady will deny that socialism destroyed Venezuela.. I’d say 1\1000 odds

    I say let her rant, because Trump2020 will be even more likely, Communism will just never be popular in the US

    Obviously she’s educated but not that intelligent, only an idiot would even consider 100% renewable by 2100.. and she says 2035 😀 So we can assume she is completely illiterate on economics and science\tech

    • I agree with you Mark. Nowadays, we no longer label this woman’s bizarre statements for what they truly are – “batsh!t crazy”. Instead, there are support groups that encourage this sort of insane radicalism, which causes enormous destruction to individuals and society.

      The political left has many causes that are utterly foolish and destructive to society and the environment – global warming alarmism and green energy scams are prime examples.

      Witness the energy idiocy of recent politicians in Western Europe, Britain, Canada, the USA, and Australia. These idiots have squandered tens of trillions of dollars of scarce global resources on costly, intermittent green energy schemes that are not green and produce little useful (dispatchable) energy, all to save us from imaginary catastrophic global warming – all in a (probably) cooling world.

      Fully 85% of global primary energy is still generated from fossil fuels – oil, natural gas and coal. The remainder is largely generated from nuclear and hydro. Hardly any useful energy is generated from green sources, despite tens of trillions in wasted subsidies – enough money to buy too many corrupt politicians, civil servants and academics.

      Anti fossil fuels, anti pipelines, anti fracking, anti oilsands, pro green energy, etc. etc. – these scams are all promoted by the same people, all deliberately harming our economies while wrapping themselves in the cloak of phony environmentalism.

      These people are not pro-environment – many of their programs such as clear-cutting of tropical rainforests to grow biofuels, draining the Ogallala aquifer to grow corn for fuel ethanol, clear-cutting eastern US forests to provide wood pellets for British power plants, erecting huge wind power towers to slice up birds and bats, etc are ALL anti-environmental.

      The popularity of global warming mania in the media and the general population is explained by the Dunning Kruger effect, as defined below.

      THE DUNNING–KRUGER EFFECT – DEFINED

      By Wikipedia
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

      In the field of psychology, the Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people of low ability have illusory superiority and mistakenly assess their cognitive ability as greater than it is. The cognitive bias of illusory superiority comes from the metacognitive inability of low-ability people to recognize their lack of ability; without the self-awareness of metacognition, low-ability people cannot objectively evaluate their actual competence or incompetence.[1] On the other hand, people of high ability incorrectly assume that tasks that are easy for them are also easy for other people.[2]

      As described by social psychologists David Dunning and Justin Kruger, the cognitive bias of illusory superiority results from an internal illusion in people of low ability and from an external misperception in people of high ability; that is, “the miscalibration of the incompetent stems from an error about the self, whereas the miscalibration of the highly competent stems from an error about others.”[1]

      By George Carlin
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyifuNC0MT8

      “Think of how stupid the average person is; and then realize half of them are stupider than that!”

  37. If you truly believed the future of your children depended on giving up your car, that your kids would all die if you and your neighbours continued to use fossil fuels, wouldn’t you demand everyone immediately give up their car?

    Yes. But would you also not demand that the world’s largest emitter also reduce or eliminate its emissions? I mean, you claim to believe that the future of you children depends on reducing emissions, but its not New York State emissions that have to be reduced, but global emissions.

    So if you really believed it, you would be outside the Chinese embassy demonstrating and demanding it start reducing its 10 billion tons a year. Its one third of the global total, and its double the next largest emitter.

    So the question to ask the lady is: does she believe China has to reduce its 10 billion tonnage of emissions, and if so, by how much, and by when?

    If the US has to get to zero by 2035, what does China have to get to by that date? Why not zero, too, if global emissions are so catastrophic?

    I guarantee you that if you ask this question of people who accept the claim that the US has to do this, you will be met with a chorus of abuse, and a bunch of shouting about per capita emissions, emissions for export, installation of wind and solar, and historical emissions.

    And a resolute refusal to admit that if they are right, China has also got to get to zero by 2035. Because what they want is for the US to go to zero and China to keep right on emitting and growing its emissions.

    Now, ask yourself. Why?

    • Re “installation of wind and solar”: About a month ago, China announced it will stop subsidizing installation of domestic solar PVs, because it was costing $15 billion per year. So that argument is off the agenda.

  38. I say give her a megaphone. A very big megaphone. That’s so middle America can see where the looneytune Left has pulled Democrats further left and what they’ll do to the US if given the chance.

    Venezuela and even Ms Ocasio-Cortez own Puerto Rico disaster is a great civics lesson in the destruction that socialism brings.

    And BTW: Ms. O-C is an avowed hard core socialist.The only thing missing from her campaign is the hammer and sickle flag backdrop.

  39. When an entire country goes insane, the army is the last resort of reason.
    A military coup is evident if these ideas of ms. Ocasio materialize.

    • It’s not the entire country, just liberals. That is why we have and must defend the 2nd Amendment. It is also the reason the liberals constantly mount assaults on the 2nd Amendment.
      From Tyranny 101:
      First you take their money, then you take their guns, then you take their freedom.

  40. I started to read the IPCC Climate Change Synthesis Report of 2015. They have a diagram pg. 48 of Contributions to observed surface temperature changes over period 1951 to 2010. The observed warming according to the IPCC has been 0.64 C or about 1.1 C per century . In the graph they give range estimates of all the different factors that could have caused this based on degrees C. Of the non human causes they give two. 1) Natural forcings and 2) Natural internal variability However they give each one of those two factors exactly the same range of -0.1 to +0.1 C. This shows me that they did not do any science What they did was calculate the pause rate of warming from 1998 to 2012 as 0.15C and prorated the pause length of 15 years to the total period of 60 years and observed that without the natural causes of pause the rate of warming would have been 0 .15C. Since it showed 0.05 C according to their combined sea and temperature data; so that the difference is 0.1 which is what they say the natural forcing is. They don’t even bother to combine the two natural causes into 1 temperature range unlike what they did for the different AGW forcings.

    https://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar5/syr/SYR_AR5_FINAL_full_wcover.pdf

    Another gem in the report is on age 73. I quote

    “Warming will continue beyond 2100 under all RCP scenarios
    except RCP2.6. Surface temperatures will remain approximately constant
    at elevated levels for many centuries after a complete cessation
    of net anthropogenic CO2 emissions (see Section 2.2.5 for the relationship
    between CO2 emissions and global temperature change.). A large
    fraction of anthropogenic climate change resulting from CO2 emissions
    is irreversible on a multi-century to millennial timescale,….”

    Did they have a time machine to find this out? Oh I forgot the computer model says so. The IPCC is a junk body practicing junk science with junk scientists.

  41. ..The U.N. liberal / communist / socialist “Agenda 21” is taking it’s last, desperate, dying breath ! …Finally..!

  42. This young example of magical thinking is kooky enough to possibly actually lose the election.
    Even in a democrat stronghold.
    When people display such huge gaps in their reasoning, it is not unusual for those gaps to manifest in different areas that alienate many.

  43. Socialism dies when they run out of “Other Peoples Money” *see Venezuela / Cuba / South Africa ….etc” . The money makers / job creators don’t stick around when they are being pissed on..

    • The problem is that lots and lots of real people will die before socialism finally collapses.

  44. Interesting. We have a similar politician here in the Netherlands. Marianne Thieme from the animal party. As a mother of 4 I really think she does a convincing job. Pity those climate projections have nothing to do with reality or I’d vote for her.

  45. She does not realize that climate change has been going on for eons. Based on the paleoclimate record and the work done with models, the climate change we are experiencing today is caused by the sun and the oceans over which mankind has no control. Despite the hype, there is no real evidence that CO2 has any effect on climate and there is plenty of scientific rational to support the idea that the climate sensitivity of CO2 is really zero. So conserving on the use of fossil fuels may have benefits but climate change is not one of them. If she wants climate justice for the wrongs done by climate change then the responsible party to sue would be Mother Nature. Lots of luck on collecting on a judgement against Mother Nature.

  46. Pulling the Democratic party left is REgressive, not progressive. Cavebound, as I like to put it. I shan’t tell you again.

  47. I’m overjoyed she has been elected. I look forward to her driving millions of voters into Trump’s arms.

  48. Talk is cheap. Typical politician. Always the moral superiority and empty promises. Let me guess: When this doesn’t happen by 2035 she will just blame everyone else.

  49. let me translate her “homes are a human right” policy

    if she had the legislative power it would go like this.

    Sir\Madam, you have a 3 bed house, but you are one person, you must take in two migrants
    Sir\Madam, it is irrelevant to us that you put blood and sweat into that house and that the people we are giving 66% of your house to, never worked a hard day in their lives
    Sir\Madam, the fact that you made more effort than the people we are giving your stuff to for free, means you are an oppressor.
    Sir\Madam, we need to take that factory you worked hard to build over 30 years of your life. We need to it hand to these trusty ideologically pure socialists, yes we know they have no idea how to run a manufacturing plant but they are our ideological brothers, and that is what matters.

    If her kind had power, they wouldnt wait for the millions of homes they’d need to build to be built (and would never have the money anyway) so they would just take them from the middle class.

    The middle class, not the top 1%, are the class that is crushed by radical socialism, the 1% always remain, because the radical socialists need the 1% and their money.

    • The very real strategy in Cuba and now Venezuela is to officially promote seizure of housing units made vacant by fleeing residents.

  50. If her and her kind ever got any real chance of getting power, the media class would nuke them from orbit.
    CNN and MSNBC people get $30k a day. They would do everything in their power to destroy any movement like this, Guaranteed. Amazon, google, Apple Microsoft and all the others would invest fortunes into destroying them.
    Not that I say that is a good thing, just a reality, they’d sooner see her “disappear” than pay radical socialist taxes and have their wealth redistributed.

    Mind you Google and others might get a free pass, because the information machine would be the first to be completely co-opeted by these radical socialists.

    Fortunately, the young people who support this lady now, once they enter the real working world and have kids and a future to plan, will not be supporting her then, or her kind.

    Most radical socialists are people who never contributed anything to society

  51. The way I hear it she won by taking on incumbent Crowley’s Wall Street ties.
    Bloomberg got it right – “She called for reviving the Glass-Steagall Act, the Depression era-law that kep investment banking and consumer lending separate formore than six decades until it was scrapped in 1999. Some lawmakers blame the repeal for contributing to the 2008 meltdown, an argument that Wall Street flatly rejects.”
    She was Socialist Party, and a Bernie activist.
    Italy’s new Gov’t also campaigned on this, and there is a kind of “green” New Deal there too.
    FDR’s New Deal after enforcing Glass-Steagall catapulted the US out of the depression. It’s a proven tool. Of course the neo-lib, neo-con nutters of the von Hayek mold get conniptions at the very thought of directed mission-oriented economics citing the straw dog of central bank-bailouts. von Hayek ideologues call FDR socialist, which is bunkum. Bloomberg notes the wind thats blowing.
    Of course a New Deal must involve fission, fusion, better “fossil fuel” energy
    Trump tweeted delight that Crowley is gone.

    • Glass-Steagall was quietly scrapped in 1999. A friend warned me in 2000 of major crises to come. And the first one came in 2008. Does Wall Street believe in climate change?

    • FDR’s poor handlibg of the Depression kept America suffering nearly to the start of WW2.
      His first “New Deal” was tossed out by the USSC.
      Glass Steagall, however was actually a good thing and should be, withmeaningful updates, considered for reintroduction.

  52. I don’t really see how she’s any different. It’s not like she’s given up any of her modern conveniences or even tried to get off the dirty grid.

    She merely wants the privilege of dictating to others how they must live, and can speak very passionately about it.

  53. Basically, Democrat voters support someone who wants to implement communism in order to fight climate change.

    • That probably has extensive peer reviewed research to back it up ….in the UK and Australia.

  54. Uff dah. The Chutzpah! Only redeeming factor of this newly elected dum dum is that she is pretty.

  55. Scotty said it best: “You cannae change the laws of physics.” No matter how hard a dewy-eyed Millennial idealist strains.

  56. She has all the tactics of the former USSR, class warfare and gifts. And nothing under the US Constitution.

  57. It’s a political given that the left wants to convert American states that consistently vote for rightists to their side. That’s why Democrats are so lenient on law-breaking immigrants. They want to eventually allow enough liberal Latin Americans into the country, that those people’s children will eventually become victims and identity politics voters who reliably vote for Democrats. In this way, America continues to slide away from E Pluribus Unim, but towards the day when Democrats an ultimately win Texas.

    However, in politics, like in climate, everything is always changing. People like Ms. Ocasio-Cortez could also have something of the opposite effect. To the degree that they become successful in driving up everyone’s costs for electricity, and driving up the risk of major blackouts, as is happening in Australia right now, maybe these renewable energy zealots will have the unintended consequence of one day turning California or New York back over to Republicans. It is my hope that Latin American youngsters (dreamers) still have enough ambition and drive to want to succeed in the old-fashioned American way, through hard work and individual merit, to reject this stampede of brainless Democratic climate lemmings over the proverbial renewable energy cliff.

  58. I guess she wants an electical grid as good a Peurto Rico. One of her parents if from there!

  59. It looks like the new tactic of random assortment of catch phrase terms like refugee crisis and climate justice is the winner with random assorted brains of liberals. Go for it.

  60. Hmm, I am a “Climate Justice Denier” now? I kind of like the ring of that.

    They have convoluted the words to the point I can not make any meaning out of their “policies”. If you fed it into a computer to translate the words into only those portions that have meaning, the computer would spit out a blank space. Which I guess is a fair representation of what is in their heads.

    Its going to be entertaining to watch people like this in Congress. Assuming any get that far.

    • I do hope James Hansen lives long enough to witness Climate Political Chaos and its very real economic impacts on communities, families, and other carbon units.

  61. Like I said before, the Clinton supporters just don’t turn out like they used to. A lot of them moved off to nursing homes or cemeteries but they all still turn out for the general election…. dead or alive.

  62. ……And this extremist apparently wants to practice her extremist innumeracy and lefty imperialism from the Oval Office.

  63. Well, this certainly looks good for the future. Millennial social-justice air-heads in charge of things. OMG, awesome!

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