Open Thread – trying out a new comment system

Hello,

Now that the move has been successful, I’m trying out a new commenting system plugin called WPDISCUZ.

You can read more about it here. https://wpdiscuz.com/

The original comment editor I installed last week didn’t work properly for everyone, and it screwed up comment indentation, so I had to disable it.

Try it out, leave a comment, leave a comment rating, try the sort features, etc. You can edit a comment up to 15 minutes after making it.

You can also visit another thread to see how it looks with many comments already in place.

-Anthony

 

UPDATE: I think I have the “reply” in nested comments working, and the EDIT function working properly. Also, the good news is that once you put in your name and email, it should always remember you….at least that is what I’m told by the documentation.

The bad news: General comment form is at the top, and there appears to be no way to change it according to this thread:

https://gvectors.com/forum/how-to-and-troubleshooting/remove-the-comment-form-to-below-comments/#post-3911

So, just use it for a general comment about the article, or scroll down and reply to an existing comment.

 

UPDATE2: You can display an image (or YouTube video) within a comment, (see examples in the thread below) but you MUST use https rather than http. Just simply insert the image URL, no tags or HTML needed.

If you use http all you’ll get is a link, but no embedded image.

Feel free to play around with inserting images or video in comments below.

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MarkW
June 5, 2018 6:39 am

Is this where I put the obligatory “How dare you post any article that isn’t about Global Warming” comment?

Keen Observer
June 5, 2018 6:44 am

Nesting appears to work on my mobile Firefox, but in a limited way. I didn’t realise until I got to work that comment threads aren’t visibly fully nested on mobile. They are limited to the screen width, so at least the problem with the original implementation–horribly narrow comments that are quite a pain to read–isn’t present. Not ideal, but I’m not sure what can be done for a phone screen. I don’t think I see the same problem with white link text on my phone, though.

Edit: trying to find your own comment after you post and refresh…also not optimal, when it’s three or four “Load More Comments” down the page and you’re set to read “oldest first”.

Editor
June 5, 2018 6:44 am

Anthony ==> Two “suggestions”

1. If possible, add a link to the html at the end of comments that links to a same-page anchor set just below the grey bar that has left and right previous post — next post (it is just above the current “Leave A Reply”) This would allow readers reading all the comments to click a “Leave a Comment” link that takes them right back up to Leave a Reply form at the beginning of comments. *since it is apparently not possible to move that form).

2. If possible, add at the end of comments — where (if there are scads of comments) it gives a Load More Comments (something like that) — and alternate link –Load All Comments.

PS: I like that comments I haven’t seen appear with a shaded background.

June 5, 2018 7:14 am

First, I don’t mind the New Comment box being at the top rather than the bottom, as I’ll get used to it.

Second, unlike some other commentators, I do mind having to click anything to read more of a comment or read more comments. I like to be quick on the PgDn button and ignore things I’m not interested in. There is a good ergonomic reason for this: it is more relaxing just to have a finger on one key than to have to move the cursor to follow a page button. Relaxation makes for better information input.

Rich.

Reply to  See - owe to Rich
June 5, 2018 7:22 am

Third, I don’t like not seeing an exact time of someone’s quote, as it has been useful in the past to quote this.

Fourth, as a result of that it is hard even to tell the direction of travel of the whole thread.

Fifth, how does one click on something to get a bookmarkable link to a particular comment rather than to the whole thread? That was extremely valuable in the past.

So far the plusses don’t outweigh the minusses IMHO.
Rich.

Reply to  See - owe to Rich
June 5, 2018 7:23 am

Sixth, as I age my eyesight is worsening, so I don’t appreciate diminishing text size with indented comments.

Rich.

MarkW
Reply to  See - owe to Rich
June 5, 2018 7:39 am

If you click on the little symbol that looks like two chain links at the top right corner of a post, it will give the link to that post.

eyesonu
Reply to  MarkW
June 5, 2018 9:29 am

MarkW,

Please explain the chain link. I can’t see what it does, just opens a box w/WUWT address

Post time 12:28 pm

MarkW
Reply to  eyesonu
June 5, 2018 9:44 am

The box is smaller than the address so it doesn’t all show up, I did a Ctrl-A Cntr-C on the box for your post and got this:

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/06/open-thread-trying-out-a-new-comment-system/#comment-2370657

eyesonu
Reply to  eyesonu
June 5, 2018 10:26 am

Mark,

I’m replying to my comment that you answered to keep it all together.

I clicked the link you provided and nothing happened except that the link vanished but mouse pointer turns to a hand if I mouse over the its previous location.

What is the chain link supposed to do?

This comment posted 1:26 p

eyesonu
Reply to  eyesonu
June 5, 2018 11:02 am

OK ——– I think I see what the chain link does. It just highlights the associated sub thread in colored boxes and if you mouse over the colored box the color goes away.

Is that all it’s supposed to do? If so, it may have some value but doesn’t seem too much to get excited about.

Posted at 2:02p

eyesonu
Reply to  eyesonu
June 5, 2018 11:12 am

I need to get a foot controlled “refresh button” and a “scroll pedal” to attempt to follow along without wearing out my keyboard and finger tips! A new meaning to an interactive process! The local peeping tom will think I’m nuts with fancy foot work, typing, mousing, and facial expressions and cursing! 😉

Post time 2:13p

MarkW
Reply to  MarkW
June 5, 2018 12:21 pm

I used the chain box on your first post to me to acquire the link that I put in the above post.
When I click on the link, it takes me to your first post.

PS: Is there any way to fix the color on the clicked links. Having them appear to disappear is very difficult to work with.

eyesonu
Reply to  eyesonu
June 5, 2018 12:41 pm

Mark,
If you are asking me, I can only say that the colored link disappears when you mouse over it and is then permanently invisible once you open/click on it. If you know where it was you can still click the invisible/blank spot to open it.

posted at 3:43p

eyesonu
Reply to  eyesonu
June 5, 2018 12:50 pm

I think the answer to EVERYTHING in the new universe is to refresh and scroll. Now what is the question?

What is “42” is not a valid question as the answer would be “refresh and scroll and reset and scroll some more”. 😉

posted and edited 3:55p

eyesonu
Reply to  eyesonu
June 6, 2018 5:06 am

OK …. The colored links are now remaining visible when you mouse over and also remain visible even after you have opened/clicked on it . The march for normalcy and perfection continues. 😉 😉

MarkW
June 5, 2018 7:36 am

I prefer to have the newest posts at the top, is there any way to permanently select this option?

Keith R Jurena
June 5, 2018 8:19 am

A little change every now and then can be a good thing, don’t you think Mr Ryan?

papertiger
June 5, 2018 8:31 am

The Hoba meteorite is bigger than Botswana’s asteroid.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoba_meteorite

papertiger
Reply to  papertiger
June 5, 2018 10:15 am

comment image

tom abbott
June 5, 2018 8:48 am

Testing

tom abbott
Reply to  tom abbott
June 5, 2018 9:30 am

I tried to post under my old handle (TA) and got this error message: “Please match the requested format”.

That’s all it gave me with no instructions about what the requested format is. So I emailed Anthony and he said this was the first he had heard of this problem and didn’t know what to do to fix it and suggested I use my name instead of my initials. I did so and it looks like it worked.

I know others use a two-letter, capitalized handle, too, so if you are having trouble posting it probably has something to do with your two-letter handle.

Ed MacAulay
June 5, 2018 9:18 am

Any update on Tips and Notes functioning?

ldd
June 5, 2018 9:25 am

Testing…

June 5, 2018 9:42 am

Whoof, the “subscribe to new follow-up” emails are ugly, and randomly have no information in them.

Now to try the “subscribe to replies.” And see if it sends my own. 🙂

Reply to  Foxfier
June 5, 2018 9:43 am

I am posting comments too quickly; slow down.

Not so good at that….changing speed is hard!

June 5, 2018 9:43 am

Just another test. Will clicking on my name get me to Walking Creek World (one of my blogs)?

Here’s a picture:

comment image?w=1280

/LEJ

Reply to  L. E. Joiner
June 5, 2018 9:46 am

The characters under the photo seem to be left over from the URL. How come the program didn’t remember me?

eyesonu
Reply to  L. E. Joiner
June 5, 2018 11:58 am

While the image seems a little distorted, the reflections are clear! Kind of like many things in life. 😉

Editor
Reply to  eyesonu
June 6, 2018 6:35 pm

It’s displayed upside down. Please stand on your head.

June 5, 2018 9:49 am

?? New comments remember my name/website. Replies do not. How come?

Reply to  L. E. Joiner
June 5, 2018 3:40 pm

I just “liked” you because you sounded like you needed a hug. 😎

fonzie
June 5, 2018 10:16 am

Testing…

fonzie
June 5, 2018 10:17 am

Test

F. Ross
June 5, 2018 10:47 am

Wondering? In what comment(s) (below) is the reader left…

Trivial question: In what film is the young postulant from Melk?

June 5, 2018 11:34 am

comment image

Reply to  Tom K
June 5, 2018 11:36 am

Recognizes my profile and inserts images okay

June 5, 2018 11:44 am

Interesting commenting system. I wonder if it will work at a site other than WP powered!

June 5, 2018 11:51 am

Hmmm, mods, earlier on I made 3 postings with items “first”, “second”, …, “sixth”, and I cannot see them. Do you know where they went?

Thanks,
Rich.

Reply to  See - owe to Rich
June 5, 2018 11:59 am

My apologies – apparently I had “oldest” set opposite “Subscribe”, and when I fixed that to be “newest” I could see my comments. So,

Seventh, I’d like to see an option “all” next to “newest”.

MarkW
Reply to  See - owe to Rich
June 5, 2018 12:17 pm

Both “newest” and “oldest” display “all”. They just impact the order.
I haven’t played with “most voted”.

Reply to  MarkW
June 5, 2018 1:04 pm

Hi Mark W,

If that were true then searching for my comments under “oldest” would have succeeded. So probably one has to “load more comments” first, but that is what “all” would do automatically.

Rich.

eyesonu
Reply to  See - owe to Rich
June 5, 2018 12:16 pm

Rich,
I can see first and second, then third, then sixth about 4 hours ago.

So far it takes a lot of refreshing and finding where you were in the thread.

Try this: refresh, then make sure the little green ^ (to the right of the time clock) has not collapsed the sub threaded comments.

AW is likely working on bigger programming issues and I’m sure he will get to the others as time permits. It’s driving me nuts but including the time of your posting will help you keep track, it did with me.

When all else fails just refresh again and again. A second open tab for “monitoring only” also helps.

Excuse me while I go kick the neighbors cat again! 😉

eyesonu
Reply to  See - owe to Rich
June 5, 2018 12:22 pm

I see that we crossed while I was replying to you.

Every time you post (and maybe refresh) you will need to reset the “newest/oldest” button as it will default back to “oldest”

Does your neighbor have a cat? 😉

Reply to  eyesonu
June 5, 2018 1:06 pm

OK eyesonu, thanks. That brings me to:

eighth: wouldn’t it be nice if refresh in the browser did not reset choices like newest/oldest etc.?

Rich.

eyesonu
Reply to  See - owe to Rich
June 5, 2018 1:44 pm

Rich,

yes ….. Give AW time …. if it can be done he will get ‘er done. Notice that comment times are now posted. It will be done on Earth as it will be in WUWT.

Posting time not required except for time zone difference. Thanks AW!!!!!

dmacleo
June 5, 2018 12:10 pm

test

hunter
June 5, 2018 12:54 pm

Excellent progress, Anthony!
Thank you for all you do.
This is a great site and now it is better.

June 5, 2018 2:06 pm

The main practical issue I have is the truncation of the thread. You have to ask for “More Comments” and then again. That makes searching hard. One way I find replies is by searching for my name. It also is rather strange when a new comment shows as highlighted, and then disappears to the end. It’s true that you can now re-order them, but that breaks logical sequence. It’s also illogical, in that old comments indented can appear on the first page. I think if options to reorder are given, it should also be possible to show whole thread.

Truncating comments (“Read More”) also affects searching, to a lesser extent.

Reply to  Nick Stokes
June 5, 2018 2:42 pm

Yes, Nick, your comments echo my second (read more) and seventh (“all” needed) points, and I also mentioned searching for my own comments.

June 5, 2018 3:11 pm

My first attempt.
I’ll try to reply to myself afterward to see what happens.
I might even try to like myself to see what happens.
(Somehow, that last line doesn’t sound quite right. 😎

Reply to  Gunga Din
June 5, 2018 3:23 pm

Well, I’m not allowed to like myself. 8-(
But I guess that’s good for the blog.
I notice that when I close a parenthesis with a “text” 8 (glasses) – (nose) ) smile it shows up as a smiley wearing sunglasses.
No problem. I’ll just have to keep that in mind and do something like this “(comment 8-))”.

Hmm…It want’s my name and email again. It used to remember me after the first comment.
Is it still supposed too?

Reply to  Gunga Din
June 5, 2018 3:27 pm

My comments are at top even though “oldest” is highlighted.

The “edit” time isn’t up? Maybe that’s why it doesn’t remember me (since these are my first comments)?

Reply to  Gunga Din
June 5, 2018 3:32 pm

A last test (for now).
I’ll try to link to my first comment.
wattsupwiththat.com

Reply to  Gunga Din
June 5, 2018 3:35 pm

Looks like that didn’t work.

But I don’t see a “cancel reply” option?

Reply to  Gunga Din
June 5, 2018 3:56 pm

Perhaps this isn’t in your control but, a gray line appears under the commenter’s name.
If there have been not replies, the next commenter’s name look’s like a bit like signature.
If it is in your control, perhaps move the grey line above the name?

eyesonu
Reply to  Gunga Din
June 5, 2018 6:59 pm

just click on the ‘reply’ button again to escape the reply mode.

eyesonu
Reply to  Gunga Din
June 6, 2018 6:33 am

One more note on escaping the ‘reply’ function. When you have been frustrated with getting trapped by ‘reply’ and then click a different ‘reply’ now you are in double jeopardy. Now you gotta find ’em all and get out of multiple locks. That is FUN. Or as usual …. refresh, reset, and scroll.

I sure hope I’m not making anyone miss out on the mystery of the chase by revealing the conclusion. People have been killed over that in the movie theaters. Mystery and suspense awaits every new gadget and keystroke! 🙂

eyesonu
Reply to  Gunga Din
June 5, 2018 6:51 pm

Gunga Din,

Try refreshing to get your comment to go where it belongs. I have a comment thread somewhere in this posting explaining it. The key as it stands now (or earlier) is to refresh, scroll, reset order, and then scroll some more to find your comment.

Also to use the Ctrl F function you need to scroll and click through ALL the ‘load more comments’ to get full thread coverage.

June 5, 2018 4:16 pm

The whole site has become scrambled when I use Pale Moon (my preferred browser) today – it wasn’t like that when you first migrated to the new servers. Unable to even submit a comment. Forced to use Chrome to tell you about it.

John D. Smith
June 5, 2018 4:18 pm

I am now receiving two emails for every post. It is no problem, just wondering why

Luc Ozade
Reply to  John D. Smith
June 5, 2018 8:31 pm

Me too, John.