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Guest essay by Eric Worrall
h/t James Delingpole / Breitbart – Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau just gave a speech in New York about the need to respect and listen to others and bring everyone together, unless those others are climate “deniers” or supporters of female genital mutilation.
Trudeau uses NYU graduation speech to criticize growth in identity politics
Trudeau uses NYU graduation speech to criticize growth in identity politics
‘The leadership we need most today, and in the years to come, is leadership that brings people together’
Mia Rabson · The Canadian Press ·
Posted: May 16, 2018 8:06 PM ET
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s first order of business after descending on Donald Trump’s hometown Wednesday was to enlist thousands of newly minted American university graduates in the fight against a rising tide of intolerance and nationalism around the world.
Officials had billed Trudeau’s three-day trip to New York and Boston as focused on trade and the economic relationship between Canada and the U.S., with looming NAFTA deadlines as a backdrop.
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Respect people who don’t look or think like you do, Trudeau said. Engage those with whom you may not agree. And take up a leadership role against the aggressive nationalism and identity politics that are making the world a far more complex place to live.
“The leadership we need most today, and in the years to come, is leadership that brings people together,” he said, clad in a graduation gown of his own after receiving an honorary degree — the first world leader to get one from NYU while in office.
“That brings diversity to a common cause. This is the antithesis of the polarization, the aggressive nationalism, the identity politics that have grown so common of late.”
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Seeking out people with different viewpoints and respecting those who hold different political opinions does not mean those perspectives all have merit, he noted.
He mentioned advocates of female genital mutilation in the same breath as deniers of climate change — people who hold viewpoints that will never be valid, no matter how long they have been expressing those views or how loudly they do so.
He urged graduates to do more than just tolerate other points of view, but to respect and hear what others say in service of a better understanding the world, rather than simply striving to win an argument.
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Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-nyu-speech-intolerance-1.4666476
What a brilliant summation of Liberal thinking on climate science. Listen to and respect the scientific views of others, unless those others express views which contradict your prejudices, in which case you are free to compare those others to misogynist child abusers.
Trudeau’s full speech:
Update (EW): Reference to FGM and Climate “Denial” around 24:10 in the video, if you don’t want to watch the entire speech
Trudeau is certainly an embarrassment. I don’t know why anyone would want to invite a climate clown like Trudeau to their event in the first place.
He was center ring at clown school….
I think that was a very reasoned and nuanced observation from a world leader of uncommon insight and wisdom. If only more of our leaders were so eloquent.
/sarc
The irony burns, when the Liberals removed references to FGM being bad, from the new citizenship guide, when they circulated the first draft ……and had to add it back in because removing it caused huge backlash. This was after months of failing to committ to adding it back in….things are a joke up here, He is more likely to be condemned for negatively labeling these other cultures, by equating them to sceptics.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/female-genital-mutilation-citizenship-hussen-1.4502068
…Canadian PM Compares Climate “Den*al” to Supporting Female Genital Mutilation…
Ah… So…in the UK we have had a law against Female Genital Mutilation (FGM) for many years. And many examples of it amongst the immigrant population. But there has NEVER been a conviction under it.
So, if the UK government are tacitly and secretly supporting FGM, does that mean that they are also secret Climate Change Deni*rs?
why did UK need a law again female genital mutilation? Aren’t mutilation, whether male or female, whether genital or not, forbidden by common law, and all the more so when done on children?
Male genital mutilation is legal, asking why is unlawful.
then again, all mutilation are illegal, AFAIK.
Now, all biological matter removal are not considered mutilation, for some reason. So you can legally shave, scratch, use soap and shampoo, practice circumcision, liposuction, or breast reduction, extract extra teeth, and even blood and bone marrow (including from children, in some case!)
Unfortunately, there is a perverse form of racism in the UK. A white woman who genitally mutilated her daughter would be instantly prosecuted (rightly) and sentenced to years in prison.
But as a woman she would get a suspended sentence. A man would never see the light of day. Unless he were a minority of some sort. Complicated justice system.
Australia has a number of convictions for FGM so clearly that means we aren’t deni*rs then.
We know that the US once had the Spruce Goose for a fleeting moment (one flight) but what has Canada and the rest of the world done to deserve the Canada Goose?
What a blithering idiot.
Trudope would know about such things – HE is a supporter of all things Muslim and so I think he just told us all he’s a closet AGW denier… 😀
Funny how the loudest mouths in the Church of AGW say the stupidest things.
Since the quintessential Canadian trait is to be apologetic, may I please apologise for Justins
lack of mental acuity, his vapid puerile way of expressing himself, and his perfectly coifed hair.
Thank you. And I apologize for taking up your time. Thank you.
Hang in there, Canada! America values and appreciates the hard working folks to our north!
Yes – Trudeau is a feral, virtue signaling socialist without any other redeeming capabilities. So was Obama. Like Obama was, Trudeau is such a poor national and international leader he is convincing your electorate of the imperative need to boot his smirking brand of politics to the curb.
Get to work now, organizing at the grassroots levels in advance of your 2019 election, so you don’t have to put up with him in 2020!
“Did this guy finish 6th grade?”
He was a school teacher. It shows. No offence to the good ones.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/answer-sheet/wp/2015/10/20/canadas-new-leader-justin-trudeau-was-a-schoolteacher/
He was on the right track though even if he bungled it.
“He urged graduates to do more than just tolerate other points of view, but to respect and hear what others say in service of a better understanding the world, rather than simply striving to win an argument.”
More listening to skeptics and less calling them names would be a good change.
I once met a guy who had no problem with the concept of slavery. As long as he himself was not at the receiving end, of course. Do I have to respect his point of view? Or him for having it?
Those who ‘respect’ other people’s ‘values’ by default, irrespective of what they are, respect no values at all. They live in a moral vacuum.
‘respect’ is a strange word. Some guy told that you must show some respect (that is, take very seriously) to guys willing to die and kill for a cause, however how nutty or wrong the cause seems to you (this was about terrorists). And he was right, but triggered a lot of people by telling this simple truth. Because people tend to link respect to morality or approuval, while they are totally unrelated
‘respect’ is a most used word in gangster stories, for some reason.
So you better ‘respect’ the value of the slaver. That is, prepare to kick is ass very hard, for this is the only way for him to respect your value of freedom.
‘respect’ is indeed a strange word, and it means different things to different people, unfortunately, and I don’t have an easy way to clear this up. Buddhists would understand. Respect a person does not mean you have to agree with his ideas or values, only that you treat him as a person, decently.
The quote again, without the dangerous word:
“He urged graduates to do more than just tolerate other points of view, but to [listen and] hear what others say in service of a better understanding the world, rather than simply striving to win an argument.”
The civilisation of the western world was built up on slavery. To the ancient Romans and Greeks it was the normal state of affairs. Socrates and Plato didn’t lose sleep over it, nor, for that matter, did St Paul. I still respect their views and values on other points, if not on that one.
Susan
Most of his teaching experience was at a snowboarding school…..
An interesting (and somewhat ironic) comparison in a world where states assert their right to change the sex of children despite parents’ objections.
I think people who talk about “changing the sex” are totally wrong. That’s what you don’t change. What you can change to some extent is the appearance.
My cousin-in-law has “changed her/his sex”. That means she/he has a new social security number, new name, new passport, different hairs and bumps in the body. She/he (why do you need to distinguish in English?) can’t change how tall she/he is, or how wide a jaw she/he has. I think she/he might have been happier with hormal treatment before she was 18, but I’m not sure when you are able to determine the sex of the brain? You know, people are not fully men or women in their heads, so how would we know when to let children start treatment?
And remember, you can’t change the sex. You can just hide some features of your body.
For me, this is a puzzle. For many people, it is not a puzzle but something to be sure about.
In todays liberal gender-fluid world, if the girl who undergoes FGM identifies as a boy would it then count as a male circumcision and thus be perfectly ok legally? what if the girl identifies as one of the other 57 gender identities, would it still be considered FGM seeing as she/xi isn’t “female”? trying to understand liberalism just gives one a headache (unless one identifies as headless, I guess).
Dear PM Trudeau,
Most children subject to the practice (FGM) are, by the liberal side discussion, too young to know if they are indeed female or male. (or something else).
SO, using the term FGM should be banned in Canada, as it may push an impressionable young child to pick the wrong gender. Not that there is a “wrong gender” (or really any gender at all … I mean, isn’t gender really just a social construct), it’s just that the gender may not be appropriate for the child’s specific timeline mindset. My point being that using the language of FGM is potentially just as harmful as FGM itself.
In closing, if my suggestion sparks any kind of logical recognition on your part, then you are indeed the brainless twit that people say that you are.
No place for SCUM in the brave new progressive alphabet.
(Straight Conservative Uncolored Males)
Don, Perhaps the PM can refer to it as PGM (P for Personkind) 😉
Further confirming his status as a.complete.idiot
A complete idiot just cannot become Premier. Although it helps a lot that your enemies think you are, and underestimate you accordingly. The swamp is full of crocodiles who know their business, and shows no mercy for idiots.
Quite the opposite, he calculated (or asserted with political instinct) that ‘believing'(*) in CAGW and using it as a scapegoat served him and his political schemes more than any other.
And it does, obviously.
(*)Whether CAGW is really true or not just doesn’t matter, and he didn’t check at all.
“A complete idiot just cannot become Premier.”
He can if he has the right name and enough money behind him.
Trudeau won a majority in the last election, mostly by convincing his supporters that Harper was Literally Hitler. The polls show that he’s now running the Womyn’s Party, as the vast majority of men have abandoned the Liberals, and only women’s support remains high.
Taking a majority and turning it around in only three years so the Conservatives would win a majority if there was an election today seems idiotic to me. In the next couple of years, there’s a good chance that Conservatives will take back Alberta (almost certain), win Ontario (highly likely) and win Canada (likely).
A name helps a lot, but is not enough to attract enough money, and neither will help you from being eaten alive by mates at the slightest mistake.
Being elected and running the office are to very different business, unfortunately with bad correlation. Countless politicians were very good at one and just as bad at the other, that doesn’t make any of them an idiot.
Very stupid politics, hurting the country, sometime makes perfect political sense, so much so that advocating good politics can be a sure way to NOT be elected, or to be kicked out of office.
doesn’t this one come from a guy who refuse to condemn genital mutilation of girls practinioners, because, you know, that would be white cultural supremacism?
And yet I read today that Canada is the leading country for heli-skiing. If ever there was an activity that could be banned because of CO2 emissions surely this would qualify.
And ewually stupid on the sceptic side then in this moronic US Republican senator: https://mankindsdegradationofplanetearth.wordpress.com/2018/05/18/republican-congressman-explains-sea-level-rise-its-rocks-falling-into-the-sea-environment-the-guardian/
Just an example of the major difference between we skeptic and you believer.
When the Guardian tells you to laugh, you laugh, as a viewer of a sitcom with recorded laugh.
I personally asked myself: “OK, how much matter erosion brings from land into the seas?”, then proceeded to check some source, which was not so easy (apparently this simple question doesn’t have a simple answer),
The fact is, it looks like the beach nourishment from sediment from the land is more or less equal to sea rise, according to people concerned by sea level rise
“Results from geological investigations in south-east Australia and sediment transport modelling from the Netherlands coast indicates that sand supply from the lower shore face fully compensates for the effects of significant relative sea level rise.”
https://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/researchpapers/Pages/coastal-erosion–sea-level-rise.aspx
Is that “moronic” to think that, since matter form the land and sea level rise are equal, the first is cause of the second? No it’s not. Just like early (XIX) estimates of “greenhouse effect”, it may be wrong, but not “moronic”.
It is a drop in the ocean my friend and don’t believe any whacky source that says it is different…
A drop in the ocean it surely is, but so is a ~1/1,000,000 of ocean depth per year level rise.
Australian parliament MAY BE a whacky source, but the Guardian is for sure.
Then again, I looked for a source and thought about it, as a skeptic do. You didn’t, as a CAGW believer do. You just let your prejudice and bandwagoning with whacky Gardian drive you into parroting retweet without any thinking. You acted like a pathetic bully, “my friend”.
Arrogant climate change reactionary just about sums you up hunter – just substitute reactionary with sceptic
[I hope you two have had fun but the rest of us find this boring . . . mod]
https://mankindsdegradationofplanetearth.com/2018/05/18/republican-congressman-explains-sea-level-rise-its-rocks-falling-into-the-sea-environment-the-guardian/
Quoting the Guardian is not a good indicator of membership of the reality based community. This comment from CIF about dear Polly is quite old but gives the flavour of the place pretty well (a make work scheme for posh entitled arts graduates, close bosom friend of the BBC). Polly didn’t graduate of course although her one ‘A’ level and Tonybee connections got her in on a scholarship.
‘On Tuesday last,
A falcon, towering in her pride of place,
Was by a mousing owl hawk’d at and kill’d.
And then, ev’n in that unholy rain,
That fell and fell and made winter of lost summer,
Mad Polly was heard to talk some sense…
We are seriously doomed.’
Scepics seem to really detest The Guardian because it is the leading broadsheet on environmental initiatives and has some fantastic in-depth articles on climate change, which enrages the US sceptic community because they do not have a similar source to support their views. So if the sceptics keep on trashing it, you know it’s environmental coverage is hitting the nail on the head!
Sane people hate the Gardian because of it “fantastic” (indeed!) articles. Too much fantasy, science-fiction, propaganda and the like reported as news. No other reason needed.
Here is a joke:
At a zoo, a child fall of his mother arms into the pit of the tiger. A squad of soldiers happens to be there, too, and one of them jump in, distract the tiger with a burger, save the child, and, with the help of his comrades, escape out before the tiger do any harm. While the child still cry and his mother in shock from the fear, the crowd is elated, and a journalist of the guardian, who appears to be there, interview the man, and promise it will make the headline. And it does: “a fascist robs the meal of an immigrant from India unlawfully held in slavery, poison him, then mock him and revel in joy with accomplices while a mother is in shock, her child in cry from the action”
But you have a point: There certainly IS high correlation between hating lies, being skeptic, and holding the guardian in contempt.
Not that the Guardian hold any monopoly on the matter. Unfortunately.
Ivan the Russian troll.
“The Kremlin has masterminded an elaborate scheme to undermine American fossil-fuel production and distribution, concludes a report by the U.S. House Committee on Science, Space, and Technology.
Released March 1, the report, “Russian Attempts to Influence U.S. Domestic Energy Markets by Exploiting Social Media,” reveals how Russia has teamed up with U.S. and European environmental groups to use such popular outlets as Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram to turn American public opinion against the domestic oil and natural gas industry”.
http://www.cfact.org/2018/05/13/russian-efforts-to-disrupt-u-s-energy-markets-exposed/
The only thing the Kremlin is doing is colluding with the real estate salesman from New York after pumping in illicit money into his – and his grifter son in law’s – failing real estate companies to influence the 2016 election.
It is a very well known fact that Putin hated Clinton’s guts, for supporting anti-Putin sentiment and was determined to prevent her by any means possible from getting into the Presidential office.
Who else hates her so much – the Donald. So his and Putin’s interests were very much aligned.
To say there is a Russian – green alliance conspiracy on fossil fuels is complete B.S. Good attempt to spread fake news my friend.
CFACT – the well-known climate sceptics – could only dream up crappy conspiracy theories like this one: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Committee_for_a_Constructive_Tomorrow
Poor Ivanklansman. His hate is only matched by hus ignorance.
In Ivan black and white, good versus evil, world, it cannot be possible that Putin both did his best to defeat Clinton AND hinder US and European oil industry
so the well proven fact that Putin’s KGB helped the anti-nuke AKA “better red than dead” pacifists AKA no fracking AKA greens in Germany, UK, Canada and USA (because admitted communists had zero hold there), and the fact that Putin’s Russia had and still has no reason to stop, he mocks “conspiracy theory”…
Likewise, in his fantasy world, there is no way Clinton could had been beaten just because she was just awfully awful (just ask her “friend” Bernie). Must be a conspiracy from Russia.
Wag the Dog
Ivan…
Wag the Dog
Like Father Like Son – a good read.
https://www.thetrumpet.com/13321-like-father-like-son
“Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge.”
Charles Darwin
Strange, he didn’t even meet Trudeau.
Step back – try see The Big Picture..
How did an (obviously) unthinking, sensation-seeking, adversarial and rabble-rousing little muppet like this rise to the top of the tank?
How did it get to be Prime Minister?
If that is The Prime = The First = The Best, what is going on below that?
How did it happen?
What Went Wrong?
Avid readers will know my thoughts – one word. Sugar
Ehrlich and Malthus were correct. A mass starvation is happening, now and in real time.
But its not like how Hollywood and how everyone therefore expects it to play out.
How on Earth could all these fat and obese people possibly be starving? Look at all the calories they;re getting – never had so many or had it so good.
Peta, you’re off your head!!
Its a starvation of the brain and the mind which affects its thinking and subsequent actions.
We see it everywhere and at least once very day on here. Not only in the stories themselves but the over-reaction to them.
That Oxford professor (Dorkling or whatever his name) was a lovely example. He was only really a priest giving a sermon to his flock, inflicting guilt upon his flock. Exactly as the “Mighty King Canute” learned to do centuries ago -yet the vitriol poured onto the prof was just gobsmacking. Horrible.
Rampant paranoia – over reaction to trivial stimuli
One of these days, someone of Trudeau’s position will say or do something so monumentally dumb, billions of similarly afflicted, zombified & paranoid minds will follow.
It’ll make the proverbial lemmings-off-a-cliff look like a teddy bears picnic
I think it is wonderful that Trudeau has come into power at this time.
Why? Because there is every chance that his absurd utterances will shake Canada to it’s core.
It is very likely that he will utter such obviously provably incorrect information that the voters will revolt.
It happened here in Australia with a bizarre figure called Kevin Rudd. His Party sold their backsides as he just had that whimsy that appealed to the voters.
You know this guy is just so unusual for a Politician, he understands us.
Well unusual was right and I reckon the “peoplekind ” of Canada will do what they did to Mr Rudd and Trudeau will end up a detested wastrel and fool.
I never thought that Rudd could be outdone but Here we have a contender
The situation is very simple and confusing. Trudeau is right about climate change and is totally wrong about the issue of excess liberalism.
lol.
Is that the lesson you learned?
Mihaly wrote:
“The situation is very simple and confusing. Trudeau is right about climate change and is totally wrong about the issue of excess liberalism.”
I agree that your statement IS very confusing. In fact, young Justin is utterly wrong about CO2-driven global warming being dangerous, and his so-called “excess liberalism” exists alongside his open admiration for brutal dictatorships in Cuba and China.
Hmmm… … Cuba, … China, and … Canada?
Actually, destroying the economy is one of the classic tactics of dictators when they want to consolidate control. Then they institute martial law and often execute those who oppose them, blaming them for the terrible economic mess; then they live like kings on top of the disaster that once was a prosperous country.
Examples abound:
Stalin in the Former Soviet Union (FSU), all the FSU vassal states, Mao in China, Pol Pot in Cambodia, the Kim’s in North Korea, Castro in Cuba, many countries in South America, many countries in in sub-Saharan Africa – it’s a long and tragic list.
Based on his actions and his inactions, young Justin is quite far down this destructive road. He is destroying through inaction our vital energy industry, the basis of our economy. In the past ~60 years, Alberta’s energy industry has financed the entire country. Through federal tax transfer payments to the Rest-of-Canada, each Alberta family has donated about one million current dollars (when nominal interest is included) to other provinces and territories. The only precedent for this sort of wanton economic destruction was Justin’s father, Pierre, when he instituted the catastrophic National Energy Program in 1980. Like father, like son.
Doesn’t this twit understand that some people still actually listen to his utterances.
What an embarassment.
Robert – don’t you think he has speechwriters?
Somewhere in a backroom there are people screaming with laughter:
“You mean he actually said what we wrote? What an idiot! I got it! Next let’s have him compare female genital mutilation to climate deniers – he’ll never fall for that! Nobody is that stupid, not even Justin! What??? He already said it?? OMG!!!!!”
The poster child of identity politics hack and climate reactionary dares to pose as a uniter.
He must have a poor memory as to how people see his dress up and pretend games.
https://youtu.be/xBDN9bdidhM
Bilingual putain. Trudeau fils de pute. Bordel de merde!
These may be literal translations, but only “merde” is accurate.
I cannot say more without risking the corruption of young minds that read wattsup.
that’s not even literal translation.
brain cramp – I meant to say colloquial, not literal.
I’d bet $100 that Justin would be unable to articulate the mainstream “denier” position. And I’d bet another $50 that he’ll never be challenged to do so.
[?? US or Canadian 50.00? .mod]
Could be that Trudeau is a Pachauri disciple?