DESPERATION – Liberals demanding Pruitt's resignation over Pell meeting

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

Liberals are pressing for EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt’s resignation, because he met with Cardinal George Pell to discuss Climate Change.

George Pell Secretly Met A Top US Politician In The Vatican To Discuss Climate Change


Three weeks before he was charged with historic child sexual abuse, cardinal George Pell met up with controversial US politician Scott Pruitt to talk about climate change.

Pell is, of course, the most senior Catholic in Australia, and a highly controversial figure for his ultra-conservative views (plus the aforementioned charges). Pruitt is no stranger to controversy either. Appointed by Trump to head the US Environmental Protection Agency, he has rolled back regulations designed to protect the environment and faces a number of serious questions about ethics and alleged conflicts of interest.

One of Pruitt’s former staffers told The New York Times the EPA boss wanted the meeting erased from official schedules because he did not want to face scrutiny for visiting an alleged sex offender. Despite this, Pruitt claims he didn’t know about the allegations against Pell at the time the meeting was held.If you see a

At the meeting, Pell and Pruitt — who were joined by others — discussed plans to set up a debate on climate change.

“The president is pleased with the job that he’s doing as the administrator. However, the issues that have been raised, that I think you guys are all familiar with — they have raised some concerns,” White House spokesperson Raj Shah told reporters on Air Force One on Thursday.

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We don’t know exactly what charges Cardinal Pell is facing. He admits “putting the Church first”.

… When discussing the church abuse scandal Cardinal Pell admitted he had put the church above the victims at times, but he wanted Australians to give the church and himself a fair go.

“I hope they will give the Catholic Church a fair go. I hope that they will understand the truth of the station,” he told Bolt.

“I fully concede the terrible crimes that have happened.

“I’d like them to give me a fair go, everyone needs a fair go, certainly the Catholic Church is entitled to that.

“I’m a Christian, I’m a priest. Now I might have put the Church first for a while rather than the victims, but I’m certainly not here to put myself first, we’re not into that.” …

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In the past I have praised fellow Australian Cardinal Pell because of his climate skepticism, but if Cardinal Pell let down or hurt children in his care I will join those demanding he face justice. I know people who were victims of child abuse, lets just say I take Matthew 18:6 very literally.

But Cardinal Pell has denied the charges. And Pell is not Scott Pruitt – as far as I know Pruitt himself is not facing charges of sexual misconduct.

I’m utterly disgusted that anyone would attempt to twist the tragic mistreatment of Australian child abuse victims into a reason to fire Scott Pruitt. EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt had absolutely nothing to do with the suffering of those poor children.

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Susan Howard
May 14, 2018 8:33 am

Is it compulsory for officials to resign if they have ever met someone who is later charged with a crime? What is the time limit and how long should the meeting have lasted? Just asking….

Reply to  Susan Howard
May 14, 2018 8:53 am

It’s only mandatory if the politician is a conservative.
For liberals spending time with criminals is a career enhancement. Just look at Obama.

Bob boder
Reply to  MarkW
May 14, 2018 9:10 am

Heck they didn’t even ask Clinton to resign and he raped women!

Reply to  MarkW
May 14, 2018 9:20 am

Or Democrat John Conyers, who abused the privilege of his office for 40+ years.

Reply to  MarkW
May 14, 2018 2:38 pm

I gather JFK had extra-curricular activity.
No – ‘lack-of-consent’ – that I have heard of.
Rumours swirl round his successor, LBJ, even here in the UK.
No idea if they have weight, but suggestions include at least Weinstein style behaviour.
Now decades ago, of course.

Reply to  Auto
May 14, 2018 3:57 pm

LBJ was rather coarse, to put it lightly. As noted in Robert Caro’s interminable (he’s been working on the project since the late 1970’s, and is still not finished), he had several long term sexual relationships after he was married. He also nicknamed a body part “Jumbo”.

Reply to  MarkW
May 14, 2018 3:50 pm

And Hilda with the pizza parlor proprietor . . .

Reply to  Susan Howard
May 14, 2018 9:29 am

” Just asking….”
Asking who? Who actually said it should be “compulsory for officials to resign if they have ever met someone who is later charged with a crime?”?

Reply to  Nick Stokes
May 14, 2018 9:47 am

I assume Eric Lipton at the NYT, as well as other Progressive reporters. They are the ones who felt it was newsworthy to report on this and link it to the Fake News ‘ton of scandals’ that they fill their papers with every single day.
Scandals like ‘he Flys on airplanes’ but not as much as the previous EPA heads. ‘He denies science’ by expecting it to be unhidden and reproduceable. Etc.

Reply to  Nick Stokes
May 14, 2018 10:01 am

Don’t feed the trolls

Reply to  Nick Stokes
May 14, 2018 10:13 am

“I assume Eric Lipton at the NYT, as well as other Progressive reporters”
Well, here is his report. I don’t see a demand for resignation. Mainly he is reporting on the removal of mention of the meeting from the published schedule. That suggests that someone is a bit queasy about it, but that someone probably isn’t a liberal.

Reply to  Nick Stokes
May 14, 2018 10:35 am

Classic Nick Stokes defense.
“Trump sticks by Pruitt even after reports he met with an accused child abuser”
Nick reads it as
“Pruitt meets with accused child abuser and nobody cared except it wasn’t in his diary”.

Reply to  Nick Stokes
May 14, 2018 10:36 am

“Who actually said it should be “compulsory for officials to resign if they have ever met someone who is later charged with a crime?”
Actually I like this standard, I think we should enforce this standard. Now that it looks like he’s going to be charged, I think we should demand that EVERY Democrat politician who ever met with disgraced former DA Eric Schneideman should be required to resign immediately.
Oh, wait you say, that’s EVERY Democrat officeholder in New York and almost every Democrat in Washington? Oh well, too bad, it’s your rule.

Reply to  Nick Stokes
May 14, 2018 11:39 am

Either Nick didn’t even bother to read the headline, or he’s desperate to change the subject.

Joel Snider
Reply to  Nick Stokes
May 14, 2018 12:19 pm

‘Either Nick didn’t even bother to read the headline, or he’s desperate to change the subject.’
More like trying to spin it away on a technicality. That’s his usual method.

John Endicott
Reply to  Nick Stokes
May 14, 2018 12:48 pm

Heh, yeah. Nick spins more than a washing machine.

Reply to  Nick Stokes
May 14, 2018 3:15 pm

If the Earth spun as much as Nick, we’d have 9-hour days.

Reply to  Susan Howard
May 14, 2018 9:42 am

Only if they discuss skeptical AGW science.

Reply to  Susan Howard
May 14, 2018 9:44 am

Susan asks:
Is it compulsory for officials to resign if they have ever met someone who is later charged with a crime?
Just asking…..

Don’t know, but heaven-forbid someone who talks to someone who is IN PRISON!
Then Stokes, apologist extraordinaire, says Asking who?
Don’t play stupid. Read the post headline & you’ll understand her rhetorical question.

Brett Keane
Reply to  beng135
May 14, 2018 6:16 pm

May 14, 2018 at 9:44 am
Don’t play stupid: ‘fraid Nicks’ not Playing…… (grin)

Reply to  Susan Howard
May 14, 2018 10:29 am

Only if the crime is one the social justice warriors get all excited about.
I’m not for one second playing down the child abuse question but if Pell had been charged with embezzling parish funds (for example) after his meeting with Pruitt nobody would have thought anything about it.
But two climate sceptics one of whom is possibly linked to some form of sexual misbehaviour really gets the liberal (joke!) lefties going.

Reply to  Susan Howard
May 14, 2018 10:50 am

That is kind of funny. By their logic, all of Schneiderman’s associates should resign, as well as others who had met with him on business.
That would definitely wipe out the ExxonKnew crowd, and stop that lawsuit cold.
But that logic only applies to conservatives and AGW skeptics. And especially conservatives who are highly productive – like Pruitt.

May 14, 2018 8:38 am

Desperation is the right word and the US Progressives are in the thick of it. How many “we got him this time” have come out of team Mueller? They are still completely gobsmacked over Trump taking away their power and they’ll never get over it. In fact it’s their new platform. Wait until CO2 is returned to its’ place in supporting life as we know it.

Bob boder
May 14, 2018 8:41 am

Pruit has committed the crime of not being a socialist and believing in one world order.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Bob boder
May 14, 2018 9:04 am

And Pell is guilty of wrecking criminal schemes involving the Vatican Bank and corrupt members of the Vatican or their cronies.
Also being a conservative who interferes with the new agenda under the current pope, which includes support for CAGW doctrine. He’s the perfect scapegoat. They can purge the guy who resists their “progressive” agenda while appearing to do something about clergy sex abuse (and simultaneously covering up or distracting from real sex abuse issues with friends of the pope in South America).
Before you believe anything being said about either Pruitt or Pell, please check the facts very carefully and bear in mind that now, more than ever, we should be applying the standard of “innocent until proven guilty”.
These two have so many of the right enemies that I cannot remain silent and fail to defend them.

Reply to  Rich Davis
May 14, 2018 10:52 am

Rich Davis, those of us of a more traditional bent than is currently fashionable in the Catholic Church were delighted to see Pell elevated to a senior position in the Curia as we were to see Sarah also in a position of some influence.
It came as no surprise that Sarah has been effectively sidelined and that Francis has effectively hung Pell “out to dry”. Without pre-judging any future trial I suspect that Pell’s crime has been more to do with “protecting” the Church’s reputation — as have others, misguidedly but sincerely — than any acfive participation in sexual abuse, unlike the late Keith O’Brien.
Pell was always going to make serious enemies in Rome, but for his attempts to clean up the financial dungheap in the Vatican rather than for anything else. If all the Roman clerics who persistently ignore the vow of chastity they have, supposedly, taken were to leave that city the Vatican bureaucracy would cease to function.

Ralph Knapp
May 14, 2018 8:43 am

So the AGW crowd have been confronted with facts and they know not what to do. Crawling in a deep hole would be a good start.

May 14, 2018 8:46 am

So by this standard, all the other attorneys general in the group suing the oil companies should resign because they know Eric Schneiderman?

Reply to  Tom Halla
May 14, 2018 8:54 am


Reply to  Tom Halla
May 14, 2018 9:05 am

Hmmm……….Now that gives me an idea. If Pruitt is persuaded to resign, does that mean we can have the Royal family resign because they Knighted Jimmy Savile?

Reply to  HotScot
May 14, 2018 2:51 pm

On the recommendation of politicians – do the polies have to go to the guillotine, too?
Just asking.
Just wondering.
Nowhere does the word ‘hoping’ appear above . . . . . . . . . . .

Reply to  HotScot
May 14, 2018 3:48 pm

Nope, don’t get it mate.
The royals are remote from we proles, no democratic mandate to impose influence, yet they do.
And I pay for them.

Non Nomen
Reply to  Tom Halla
May 14, 2018 9:09 am

They ought to commit suicide, because they have talked to him, in person and on the phone and even written letters and emails. That’s mail fraud and the FBI must investigate. The Schneiderman-con-spiracy has just popped up.

Reply to  Tom Halla
May 14, 2018 1:51 pm

In addition, any actors who met with Harvey Weinstein should have to return their Oscar or be prohibited from ever being nominated for one.

May 14, 2018 8:56 am

Two highly desirable targets at once for the liberals, the Church and a real conservative, Pruit. How can they resist! And as usual, truth is not necessarily on the menu.

May 14, 2018 9:01 am

Well, using the same “logic” a bunch of state attorney-generals and Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse should be on the way out the door because of Eric Schneiderman…

May 14, 2018 9:04 am

“DESPERATION – Liberals demanding Pruitt’s resignation over Pell meeting”
I read what was posted. So who exactly are the “Liberals demanding Pruitt’s resignation over Pell meeting”? I didn’t see that reported.

Bob boder
Reply to  Nick Stokes
May 14, 2018 9:09 am

You let Soon get personally attacked
You stood by while Susan Crockford got personally attacked
You may not agree with Pruit or Trump but are you going to stand by while they get personally attacked

Reply to  Bob boder
May 14, 2018 9:16 am

I see plenty of personal attacks on presidents and other politicians here. And I have even seen Mr Trump personally attack others, not necessarily politicians. It happens, and it isn’t my fault.
My question is just a question of fact. The headline says “Liberals demanding Pruitt’s resignation over Pell meeting”. DESPERATION. So OK, who are they, and what did they say?

Reply to  Nick Stokes
May 14, 2018 10:07 am

It’s a simple question, Forrest. You could actually come up with a factual answer, instead of just jibing. What liberals are demanding Pruitt’s resignation because he met with Pell?

paul courtney
Reply to  Nick Stokes
May 14, 2018 10:14 am

Mr. Stokes: You read the post but not the first link at the very top of the article. Since the attacks on Pruitt have nothing to do with who is attacking him, the author left it to those curious about it to find that, maybe they thought nobody could come up with such an obtuse question. Looks like they don’t know you very well.

Reply to  paul courtney
May 14, 2018 10:43 am

“maybe they thought nobody could come up with such an obtuse question”
It seems to be one of those obtuse questions that can’t be answered. The intro says
“Liberals are pressing for EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt’s resignation, because he met with Cardinal George Pell to discuss Climate Change.”
But where is the evidence? Plenty of people think Pruitt should resign. Even, from the link
““The president is pleased with the job that he’s doing as the administrator. However, the issues that have been raised, that I think you guys are all familiar with — they have raised some concerns,” White House spokesperson Raj Shah told reporters on Air Force One on Thursday.”
But I doubt Raj Shah ia a liberal. The obtuse question is becoming more acute.

Reply to  Nick Stokes
May 14, 2018 11:04 am

Here you go Nick.
Took me 20 seconds to Google it, including skimming other propagandist sh!te from the left that you believe is reality:
Is the NYT good enough or do I need to Google for 30 more seconds?:comment image

Joel Snider
Reply to  Nick Stokes
May 14, 2018 12:22 pm

Well, Nick, they’ve been clamoring for Pruitt’s resignation over one issue over another since he was appointed. You’d have to be approaching white dwarf star density not to see that as patently obvious.

Reply to  Joel Snider
May 14, 2018 12:26 pm

Yes. But this article seems to be making a big deal of liberals wanting him to resign “because he met with Cardinal George Pell to discuss Climate Change”. But shows no evidence of liberals demanding that he resign for that reason.

John Endicott
Reply to  Joel Snider
May 14, 2018 12:55 pm

Joel white dwarf stars can’t even come close to Nicks density.

paul courtney
Reply to  Joel Snider
May 14, 2018 1:02 pm

My apologies to Mr. Stokes, the links show liberals demanding his resignation but not for the reason stated in the headline. The NYT article (the bit I saw) didn’t have the word “resignation”. Nevertheless, obtuse and not moving toward acute because it’s not the point of the article.

Reply to  Joel Snider
May 14, 2018 3:30 pm

“because it’s not the point of the article”
Really? It is the headline, the lead-in, and the peroration:
“I’m utterly disgusted that anyone would attempt to twist the tragic mistreatment of Australian child abuse victims into a reason to fire Scott Pruitt. EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt had absolutely nothing to do with the suffering of those poor children.”

Reply to  Joel Snider
May 14, 2018 10:59 pm

The New York Times article is a bit vague but the second link to vice news is not

Scott Pruitt has already survived a ton of scandals, and President Trump is still sticking by him even now — after the latest report that Pruitt met with a Catholic cardinal who’s been accused of sexually abusing children.

I think even the Stokes defense will struggle to dance around that statement.
It’s about as stupid a statement as you get from anyone in journalism as Cardinal Pell is accused of a crime he hasn’t been convicted. However this is the toxic and perverse world of climate change and activism and normal morals and ethics don’t apply.

Reply to  Joel Snider
May 15, 2018 12:53 am

“I think even the Stokes defense will struggle to dance around that statement.”
It isn’t a statement that liberals are demanding that Pruitt resign because of dining with Pell. It is a comment by a journalist that the optics are bad. That is not the fault of liberals, and the first link makes it clear that Pruitt’s people were concerned about it:
“The E.P.A. later released official descriptions of the dinner that intentionally did not mention the cardinal’s presence, according to three current and former E.P.A. officials.
Kevin Chmielewski, Mr. Pruitt’s former deputy chief of staff for operations, said in an interview that top political appointees at the agency feared that the meeting would reflect poorly on Mr. Pruitt if it were made public. Twenty days after the dinner, authorities in Australia charged Cardinal Pell with sexual assault; he has denied the charges.
“It was a no-brainer,” Mr. Chmielewski said of the decision to keep Cardinal Pell’s participation quiet. His account was confirmed by two people who were familiar with the handling of the trip, who spoke on condition of anonymity out of concern over retribution.”

I don’t think Mr C (who was deputy CoS at the time) is a liberal.

Reply to  Joel Snider
May 15, 2018 9:56 pm

You are talking about 3 people who is the article aimed at Nick, those 3 people?
I wonder who would really care about your so called “optics”?
Stop testing the limits of stupidity, the article is clearly aimed to the anti-trump supporters which happens to be a large portion of the reader base of many papers. They are playing to their audience because that sells papers just like all tabloids with there celebrity stories.
You also neatly sidestep the whole issue like all toxic activists and the paper has ignored, the cardinal has only been charged those charges are not proven. For you it’s probably normal to throw out legal norms in most democracies (that a person is innocent until proven guilty). For a paper to do so is worse they are supposed to journalist ethics but these days they don’t seem to exist anymore.

May 14, 2018 9:04 am

Scott Pruitt ought to be meeting with Australian Energy Market Operator chief Audrey Zibelman. Maybe he can straighten her out on unreliable energy and thereby save Australians a lot of grief.

May 14, 2018 9:14 am

“Is it compulsory for officials to resign if they have ever met someone who is later charged with a crime? ”
Apparently one should resign for a failure of proper prognostication as well as for being guilty by association. According to the NY Times, it was a dinner attended by others besides Pruitt and the cardinal, who was charged 20 days later, not a private meeting. Is Pruitt Catholic? Perhaps there were other reasons he might want to have dinner with a cardinal besides discussing climate change. Some of the Beach Boys knew Charles Manson before the Tate murders, lets kick them out of the rock hall of fame shall we?

May 14, 2018 9:15 am

In Matthew 18:1–6 Jesus isn’t talking about child abuse. He’s talking about people of all ages receiving him and his teachings, telling them to humble themselves as a little child; in other words, be guileless, believing, teachable and accepting, as little children are. The “little ones” are those who have accepted his teachings. In verse 6 he says (New International Version, from the original Greek), “”If anyone causes one of these little ones–those who believe in me–to stumble…”
Other versions are translated the same way. The King James version, translated in the 1600’s, is confusing because they use the word “offend” rather than “cause to stumble”.
Child abuse is sick and no one should put the welfare of church, abusers, or others ahead of the victims, but it can also be difficult crime to prosecute because evidence—other than the testimony of the victims—is scarce.

Rich Davis
Reply to  stinkerp
May 14, 2018 9:25 am

come on stinkerp, this is not catechism class.
the cultural reference is generally understood to be that if you corrupt an innocent it would be better for you if you had a millstone put around your neck and were sunk to the bottom of the sea. In other words, it’s really bad to corrupt innocents.

Reply to  Rich Davis
May 14, 2018 3:51 pm

Apparently my sharp retort was too honest to make it through WordPress stupid comment litmus test.
WordPress is marginally decent at best

Rich Davis
Reply to  honestliberty
May 14, 2018 6:07 pm

sharp retort? To my mild comment or to stinkerp?
Well, I just thought that the Bible study was a little off topic is all. It’s not a question of the “correct” interpretation. It was an allusion and should be interpreted as it was likely intended by the author.

Reply to  Rich Davis
May 15, 2018 8:25 am

Yes, indeed.
Sharp was in reference to my response about otherwise intelligent humans believing in fairy tales, which is meant to externalize personal authority. It’s textbook mind control. The dominating class’s long con on the masses, the old high priests aren’t any different in their strategies from the new collectivist, greater goody, Eco fascists masquerading as scientists.
It’s no different than collectivism at it’s core, with just a few tweaks here and there to give the impression people are taking control of their individual lives, when reality is quite removed from that perception.
Most people refuse to strip away the conditioning, because of fear (the most powerful motivating force yet known to man), and therefore despise reductionism. The left especially hates it because it immediately illuminates the foundation of hypocrisy they’ve based their worldview, the religious despise it when the discussion impacts their comfort in some sort of external savior. So really, I see very little, foundationally, between the “sides” of the aisle. The collection of books referenced is political and was intended to limit human potential, keeping humans just internally divided enough to place faith in systems, rather than themselves.

Reply to  Rich Davis
May 14, 2018 4:07 pm

Really, Rich, did it hurt you to have that explained? We all understand the cultural reference, but just like the “received wisdom” that humans are the primary cause of global warming, it’s based on interpretations, traditions, and beliefs, not an actual reading of the original text (or data). We can all benefit from clarifying incorrect ideas or traditions.
There is a big difference between “corrupting an innocent” in the sense described in Matthew and sexual abuse. The former means to persuade or lead an innocent to sin; in other words, purposefully turning them away from their faith in God. Millstone seems pretty severe punishment for that, but that’s what it says. Metaphors—go figure.
Child sexual abuse is a whole other level of evil, which is in fact never specifically mentioned in the Bible.

Rich Davis
Reply to  stinkerp
May 14, 2018 6:16 pm

No, it doesn’t hurt me at all, but I just don’t care what the “correct” interpretation should be, by whatever lights you discern it. My point was that I don’t believe the accusations against Pell. If he is involved with child abuse, I’ll be happy to help fit him for a millstone. Quibbling about whether the author misunderstood the scripture he quoted isn’t relevant to the story.

May 14, 2018 9:45 am

Missing context here is the long standing anti-Catholic bias of the Australian Left, starting with Catholic opposition to Australian Communists (later folded into Labour) from the 1930s to the present. Pell readily admits to disastrous (widely reported) handling of pedophile priest cases during his tenure but there are no records of Catholic endorsements of pedophilia.
This contrasts with the limited and muted response to the active endorsement by Greens (including current EU parliamentarian Daniel Cohn-Bendit) of pedophilia involving perhaps 1000 children.

Reply to  Betapug
May 14, 2018 9:52 am

Pierre Gosselin has more links to this story which never seemed to get much traction (surprise!) outside of Germany.

Richard S J Tol
May 14, 2018 10:10 am

There are many reasons Pruitt should resign.

Reply to  Richard S J Tol
May 14, 2018 11:22 am

No reasons for Pruitt to resign as far as I can see. I think he ought to get a bonus for all his hard work. I would have said he deserves a promotion, but I want him to stay right there at the EPA where he can do the most good. Once he gets the EPA straightened out, then we’ll give him a promotion.

Reply to  TA
May 14, 2018 3:43 pm

Pruitt for President in 2024!

Reply to  Richard S J Tol
May 14, 2018 11:46 am

Of course there are.
He doesn’t follow the left-wing party line. That’s enough reason to have him hung.

Paul Penrose
Reply to  Richard S J Tol
May 14, 2018 3:03 pm

Please elucidate us; what are some of the “many” reasons?

May 14, 2018 10:13 am

The Left, the Democratic Party and the EPA professional technocrats will do anything to see Pruitt fired. He is analogous to and as hated more than James Watt, President Reagan’s Secretary of Interior.

May 14, 2018 10:38 am

I have to admit that I do not see how the headline of this blog post delivers on what it claims:
DESPERATION – Liberals demanding Pruitt’s resignation over Pell meeting
At least, the delivery on the claim is not obvious on a quick read and on a quick click on the links. What group of liberals exactly is making the demand? When? Where? Answers to these questions just don’t seem to be there. Maybe the claim is true, but I am not seeing the supporting references to bear it out.
Am I agreeing with Nick S. ? Has hell frozen over ? (^_^)

Reply to  Robert Kernodle
May 14, 2018 2:00 pm

Some expert at thermodynamics calculated that Hell is indeed frozen

Reply to  paqyfelyc
May 14, 2018 3:42 pm

In Dante’s Inferno, the lowest level of Hell, where Lucifer resides, is depicted as an endless land of ice

Susan Howard
Reply to  Robert Kernodle
May 14, 2018 8:04 pm

I agree that the headline is an exaggeration but the innuendo of the linked article is clear enough.

May 14, 2018 10:43 am

The list of global warming creeps grows :
Mr IPCC Perv
Mr Happy Endings
Mr . Bossy Pants
Ms Mini – Al
Mr Hide the Decline
Mr . Dress Up
Mr Maggot Man
Mr . Punch
Mr . Salsa on the Side
Who knew the global warming scam was a magnet to perverts ?

Gary Pearse
May 14, 2018 11:24 am

I predict the next big wave of “Climate Blues” is in the offing. The first wave followed Climategate and the Dreaded Pause. I would think the first wave were probably mainly honest believers (with fragile constitutions) in the mainstream science who were shocked by the behaviour of the top tier of researchers and the doubts caused by the Pause. They were unable to face the fear that their entire education and research efforts were for nought and they rationalized it was the spectre of the planets disastrous future and people not listening to them – classic dеиуаl.
The hardier types, with fewer scruples than the first, have now had the rug pulled out from under them by Trump and Pruitt. Paris Accord is dead; budgets around the world for climateering are being cut and Europe is showing little heart for the CO2 putsch sans USA footing the. Carbon markets that aren’t yet dead are going down in price, Me To# and EXXON knew# hero, AG Schneiderman is now He Too# and ‘Everybody knows#’.
Simply, their is no appetite for this sport without the US in it and this report shows the neurosis and rising hysteria of the new left.

Joel Snider
May 14, 2018 12:16 pm

All these constant ‘demands’. I wonder if it’s time for the opposition to start making demands of our own.

May 14, 2018 1:41 pm

I enjoy reading the comments of Nick Stokes.
I think his read, of the issues discussed.
Add a certain frizzy to the dialogue.
If there were to be no Nick Stokes,
Would the world be a poorer place?
Just asking.

Reply to  Twobob
May 14, 2018 3:49 pm

The real question you are implying is whether we would be happy if someone we disagree with died? C’mon man, this isn’t campus.

Brett Keane
Reply to  Twobob
May 14, 2018 7:19 pm

Twobob, Nick is a troll, whom I have seen abusing a woman scientist in a personal manner. Simply because she spoke the truth about his type of science and not in any personal manner. Your choice.

Susan Howard
Reply to  Twobob
May 15, 2018 4:44 am

Any site like this needs someone to challenge groupthink. Nick often raises valid points. I’m sure* we are all grown-up enough to accept a few opposing views .
*Not really sure, just hopeful.

May 14, 2018 1:56 pm

The left would demand Pruitt’s resignation if it was reported that he buttered his toast on the wrong side. /sarc

Reply to  Louis
May 14, 2018 2:03 pm

you mean, the upside of the toast when it falls to the ground?

Reply to  paqyfelyc
May 14, 2018 2:21 pm

Precisely. A dropped slice of toast always lands buttered side down. If Pruitt’s doesn’t, it means he buttered the wrong side and should resign. It would also be considered a firing offense if when retrieving his toast from the toaster, Pruitt was to butter the side on the right instead of the left side. 🙂

May 14, 2018 2:09 pm

Scott Pruitt could suddenly reverse his position on climate change and the haters on the left would still demand his resignation for being a flip-flopper. There is no appeasing them once you become a target.

Gunga Din
May 14, 2018 2:42 pm

Three weeks before he was charged with historic child sexual abuse, cardinal George Pell met up with controversial US politician Scott Pruitt to talk about climate change.

Anybody out there laugh at a Bill Cosby routine? Watch a Harvey Weinstein movie?

Barack and Michelle Obama now say they are “disgusted” by Harvey Weinstein’s sexual harassment accusations. But as president and first lady, oh my, how they loved the movie mogul’s cash and Hollywood glitz.
As a powerful pipeline to the Democrats’ cash machine in the entertainment industry, Mr. Weinstein raised millions of dollars for Mr. Obama’s presidential campaigns in 2008 and 2012.
He and his wife, Georgina Chapman, hosted Mr. Obama for a high-end fundraiser at their home overlooking Long Island Sound in Westport, Connecticut, in August 2012. Other guests included actress Anne Hathaway, Vogue editor Anna Wintour and screenwriter Aaron Sorkin.
“Obviously, Harvey and Georgina have just been great friends and have done so much for us, not just in this election but in the previous one,” Mr. Obama said in a dining room with two gold Oscar statues perched on a shelf.
Turning to Miss Hathaway, who had just appeared in the Batman movie “The Dark Knight Rises,” the president gushed, “She was the best thing in it. She’s spectacular.”
The actress blushed and smiled coyly.

Grabbing at straws to build a strawman.

May 14, 2018 3:02 pm

Yes, that pretty much defines desperate.

May 14, 2018 3:03 pm

Go Scott go!

May 14, 2018 3:13 pm

The desperation is to politicise global warming because the science is clear – humans at the main cause.

Reply to  zazove
May 15, 2018 3:10 pm

get with the program….
“global warming” isn’t a thing anymore.
the terminology had to change to keep up with your “clear science”.

May 14, 2018 3:29 pm

Are they calling for Scott Pruitt’s resignation because he spoke to George Pell? Well, you can argue the semantics, but they sure are latching onto it in their pursuit of Scott Pruitt:
The New York Times
Scott Pruitt dined last year in Rome with Cardinal George Pell, a Vatican leader who was also facing sexual abuse allegations. The EPA’s official descriptions of the dinner intentionally did not mention the cardinal’s presence.
Huffington Post
EPA Hid Scott Pruitt’s Dinner With Climate Denier Accused Of Child Sex Abuse
The EPA knew Vatican treasurer George Pell was under investigation, but went ahead with the dinner during Pruitt’s trip to Italy.
Vanity Fair
By contrast, The Guardian reported responsibly and avoided those excesses. Their report concentrated on the climate debate, and avoided highlighting the accusations against George Pell:
George Pell met US environment chief Scott Pruitt to discuss climate-change debate

Reply to  Mike Jonas
May 14, 2018 11:10 pm

The Guardian is published in the UK it doesn’t have freedom of speech rights of the USA. The UK laws on defamation are among the strictest in the world, the burden of proof is on the defendant. You will find lots of things published in USA that couldn’t be published in the UK.
It’s hardly surprising the reporting is more moderate 🙂

Warren Blair
May 14, 2018 3:53 pm

Pell (the sceptic) is the Vatican’s top financial official; the ‘Finance Director’.
His boss, the Pope, is a raving alarmist.
This is amazing!

May 14, 2018 10:06 pm

“Fire Scott Pruitt ” is a badge of honor . He saved tax payers a billion $ in his first year and started draining the biggest swamp in Washington . They are entitled to their temper tantrum . Rant on .

May 14, 2018 10:06 pm

People who worked with, worked for, worked in relation with, relayed the message of, or otherwise helped Rajendra Pachauri in any way should resign?!!

May 15, 2018 2:59 pm

Scott Pruitt is a liberal target because he has been a very effective EPA administer. Liberals have no moral compass. For liberals, the means justify the ends. If Pruitt is successfully tarred with another’s transgressions, the leaders of the Democratic party have abandoned even an appearance of decency, civility or moral standards of behavior. This marks a desperate party in disarray. Thank God level-headed Dems have an alternative.

May 21, 2018 4:20 am

In Australia, we still have innocent until proven guilty. I have no idea what Pell did or did not do as much of the evidence was suppressed in the initial hearing but quite a few of the charges were dropped before he was sent to trial. He is a key target for the main stream media in Australia because he is a conservative. I don’t think there would be too many US politicians who would pass the test of never having met a criminal, especially someone coming out of Chicago given the nastiness of the Daley family and subsequent city hall regimes.

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