Wow, this is really something. Three days after a declaration about “faking climate science” to be “more emphatic” Not a peep from NASA GISS head Gavin Schmidt.
That’s a troubling omission of condemnation, especially since both sides of the climate debate should be condemning this. Science is no place for “faking graphs”. Period.
Here’s the screencap:
And here is the link to the Twitter thread: https://mobile.twitter.com/o_glyndwr1404/status/982373647905062917
I’ve said before (after the OIG report slammed them) that NASA GISS is wasteful and redundant, and should be closed. Now it appears they may be under mendacious leadership as well.
h/t to Dave Burton.
UPDATE: For those that say Gavin shouldn’t bother, etc. there’s this:
“Silence is an advocacy practice,” declared Gavin Schmidt, head of NASA’s climate division, when he spoke at the annual Australian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society conference in February this year.
That post here: https://daily-climate.weebly.com/blog/april-08th-2018
CO2 doesn’t cause “Global Warming” or even “Climate Change”.
Scum does.
“War is Peace / Freedom is Slavery / Ignorance is Strength”…… and now, “Advocacy is Science”.
Gavin is so Orwellian, it’s scary…. Bizarre times indeed.
The issue is about SO2 emissions to be used in the upcoming IPCC modelling.
They are saying that SO2 emissions are way higher than what was used in IPCC AR5 (CMIP5).
SO2 emissions lead to “cooling” in the models. SO2 reflects more sunlight, and it makes clouds thicker which also reflects more sunlight. It offsets some of the warming expected.
So are they using fake increased SO2 aerosol levels to offset some of the GHG warming which should have shown up? Well, they have used this offset since day one so it is not surprising that they continue to make it even bigger.
The real SO2 emissions from US are here. Not UP, but way, way, way frickin’ DOWN. This is the issue. [US only, Canada and Mexico are not quite as good as the US but they are falling very fast as well].
I’m surprised only at the 1970-to-1975 drop. I thought U.S. SO₂ emissions didn’t begin to drop until the late 1970s.
1970 must have been approximately the peak. That giant Homer City chimney was apparently built in 1977 (to abate ground level particulate / aerosol pollution from the power plant there).
https://twitter.com/ncdave4life/status/982400694505402369
http://sealevel.info/tweet_to_ClimateOfGavin_and_d_westy_2018-04-10.png
Bill, what’s the GLOBAL picture on SO2 emissions though? I would think China may have taken up some of the slack?
Scrubbers and the big switch to gas.
Has anyone bothered to look through Owain Glyndwr’s timeline? He’s clearly a troll or an idiot, why should anyone waste time to point out an obvious sarcastic insult.
Have you tried reading comments? He is clearly not an idiot, rather setting up some cheap satire.
Call that trolling if you are offended. My pleasure.
“Have you tried reading comments?”
Yes, most of them took it that he was a climate scientist accidentally revealing some hidden agenda. eg
“Except that wasn’t a troll, was it? That was a like mind, impatient with us skeptics.”
“Once you are faking graphs it is no longer about truth, but power, money and control.”
“So this is modern day science . A conspiracy to defraud the public and governments response is
silence .”
“Oh my, oh my, oh my! They are going to regret that tweet. ”
“That scientist just undermined every paper he has ever written, now suspect. Who knows where he thinks the ends justify the means?”
The thing that Owain Glyndwr doesn’t realize is that NASA/GISS and NOAA/NCEI are *already* faking the data with adjustments as much as they can. Were it not for the adjustments, the cooling would already be evident.
Judging by a brief read through some of his tweets it wouldn’t surprise me if he does believe NASA are faking data.
From the article: “These graphs aren’t emphatic enough. We need to kill the arguments of climate deniers. If that means faking graphs then the means justify the ends.”
The Alarmists have already tried the fake graph ploy (HadCRUT, Hansen’s Hockey Stick, Best, etc).
Maybe they mean they need to fake *more* graphs, in addition to the previously faked graphs produced.
Liars lie to promote their lying narratives.
And flee from possible uncontrolled questioning and reviews.
Truth fears no question. So what are they so afraid of?
If Gavin had said it then that would have been something. But frankly I dont want thinking sceptics tarnished by trolls who post rubbish here and I dont think Gavin should be judged by what people tweet at him either. Whether he openly condemns it or not.
What he said.
Why is NASA in the climate manufacturing business ? They are going to need all the coin they can muster
to get to Mars once the Fed budget gets hacked next week .
Let the UK make up weather stats to help justify the fuel poverty population reduction strategy they are so good at .
President Trump has got to find the cash to build the wall . Why not make it a giant solar panel ?
Friends, we’ve been trolled.
I just did a review of the tweets by “Owain Glyndwr” (@o_glyndwr1404). He doesn’t have much to say for himself, but he does a lot of retweeting — and a lot of what he retweets is from Trump supporters, Brexit supporters, and climate skeptics. (He also likes cats, and boxing.) I didn’t find any retweets of Gavin and his friends.
I hate having to admit this, but that “Owain Glyndwr” tweet is not an example of a climate alarmist exhibiting Gleick ethics. It is someone on the Right parodying such people.
The sheer amount of these accounts in the net prompts the question: who pays to these people, and why? I hope it’s not me via taxes. No actually I do hope so!
“The sheer amount of these accounts in the net prompts the question: who pays to these people, and why?”
Are you suggestion Glyndwr is a Russian bot? Seems more likely he’s doing it for himself, for free.
I think he’s a Welshman.
“It is someone on the Right parodying such people.”
Don’t underestimate the Left’s deviousness. That may be what they want you to think. 🙂
Meanwhile over at PRAVDA :
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-43699607
The BBC is beyond parody ever since the referendum and the election of Trump. It’s a pity because I wouldn’t want to be without it, but I think the current crop are putting the whole organisation at risk.
I’m pleased certain people did eventually notice the graph was about SO2 and not CO2. Took several hours before Bill Illis posted something about SO2 and not CO2….
If you fake an already faked graph you are in danger of getting the truth.
Just a thought.