The City of Paris goes full stupid – considers climate lawsuit over flooding

From The stupid, it burns! department, comes this FUBAR press release from Bill McKibben’s Of course, these idiots don’t think to check history for flooding there, because, well, that would be inconvenient.

Paris explores climate lawsuit against fossil fuel companies

Paris, France — The City of Paris decided today to explore possibilities to sue the fossil fuel industry for causing climate damages, following the example of New York and other US cities.

The city council also decided to lobby other major cities such as London to ban fossil fuels from their investments through the C40 Cities Climate Leadership Group, of which the mayor of Paris Anne Hidalgo is president. The council also announced that it will release an update on the progress that has been made since it pledged to divest from fossil fuels in 2015.

“It’s fantastic news that cities like New York and Paris are stepping up to protect their citizens and hold fossil fuel corporations accountable for the harm they cause. This is a major breakthrough for divestment campaigners around the world that have been pushing cities to take a stand against the polluters wrecking our climate,” comments France Campaigner Clémence Dubois. Fossil fuel companies like Total, Shell, BP, and Exxon are the driving forces behind more and more severe flooding and summer heat waves in Paris, as well as droughts, wildfires, unpredictable seasons and rising sea levels hitting people across the globe.”

This winter, Paris has been hit once more by severe flooding, which the mayor said was, alongside recent summer heat waves ‘clearly a question of the town adapting to climate change’. Studies found that the flooding that submerged Paris in May 2016 was made almost twice as likely by human-made climate change.

On 10th January, the mayor of New York City Bill de Blasio announced that the city will divest its $191 billion pension funds from fossil fuels and that it has filed a lawsuit against BP, Shell, ExxonMobil, Chevron and ConocoPhillips for climate damages.

The moves by New York and Paris, paired with mayor Hidalgo’s pledge to increase efforts to persuade other major cities to divest, raises the pressure on the London where mayor Sadiq Khan has so far disappointed campaigners to take a strong stand against the fossil fuel industry and deliver on his election pledge to divest London City Hall.

Major cities such as Sydney and Cape Town as well as numerous European capitals including Berlin, Oslo, Copenhagen and Stockholm have already pledged to ban fossil fuels from their investments.

The divestment campaign to get public institutions to cut their financial ties to the fossil fuel industry started in 2012 with the aim to erode public acceptance for the companies most responsible for causing the climate crisis. To date, over 800 institutions including universities, faith and medical groups, the heirs to the Rockefeller oil fortune have taken steps to divest.

Building on these achievements, the Fossil Free campaign is gearing up to launch a new wave of local action around the world to keep fossil fuels in the ground and accelerate the shift to community-controlled renewable energy.

“The Fossil Free movement is taking things to the next level in 2018,” said May Boeve, Executive Director. “Building off the global fossil fuel divestment movement, which successfully led over 800 institutions to divest over $6 trillion in assets from fossil fuel companies, we’re kicking into high-gear supporting local campaigns around the world working towards a world free from fossil fuels and enacting a swift and fair transition towards renewable energies for all. It is high time for governments worldwide to follow the people’s demand for a fossil free world.”

The full text of the motion (in French) can be found here.


We covered this insanity of blaming climate change before on WUWT, and really, one picture IS worth a thousand words:

Credit Julian Knez

On a previous thread, WUWT regular TonyB contributed this comment:

Here is a google translate of the weather in Paris in Paris during January 1910

It shows the Metro flooded and numerous other interesting pictures of the city under water.

However what is most interesting is that it says it was only the second worst flooding in the records. That of 1658 was worse!!

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February 6, 2018 12:02 pm

So are all these cities still using fossil fuels?

Bryan A
Reply to  David Johnson
February 6, 2018 12:23 pm

Sounds to me like a good fight back tactic would be to eliminate the sales of Gasoline, Oil, Heating Oil, Natural Gas and Fossil Fuel produced Electricity within any city limit that wishes to divest from fossil fuels thereby helping them to divest 100%. All those NY Cabbies would need to leave the island daily to refuel.

El Duchy
Reply to  Bryan A
February 6, 2018 12:50 pm

Wholeheartedly agree. Cut off the taps and let them try to function on renewables, they keep saying they can do it so let them go ahead and try – its a win, win for ‘deniers’ like myself.

Reply to  Bryan A
February 6, 2018 4:47 pm

I think a price increase to cover the anticipated legal expenses would be more appropriate; and they shouldn’t be coy about, maybe run a newspaper ad explaining why fuel in Paris went up 1/2 a Euro/L !

Reply to  Bryan A
February 7, 2018 2:29 am

As long as people vote Big Brother progressives into power nothing can be done. You nearly wish we would have an other Carrington Event.

Reply to  Bryan A
February 7, 2018 2:47 am

Paul Jackson
1/2 a euro a liter might, just might cover legal costs in Hicksville, but eagle legals in Paris, New York etc, NO! a 12 euro a liter increase? Mmmmm

Reply to  Bryan A
February 7, 2018 5:59 am

This absolutely needs to happen. The virtue-signalling, latte sipping chattering classes of the metropolises who have no clue as to where there food or power come from will never stop voting in these lunatics until they have their stupid noses rubbed in some consequences. Make the consequences so and it stops.

Reply to  David Johnson
February 6, 2018 1:02 pm

Of course. So they aided and abetted the “crime” of which they claim to be victims.

Reply to  Gary
February 6, 2018 6:17 pm

And continue to do so, they haven’t banned the use of the alleged problem in the city.

Reply to  Gary
February 6, 2018 7:08 pm

Didn’t a push for increased lawsuits come out of COP21, 2015?
Sometimes the UN meetings side-events are as important as the main events?

Reply to  Gary
February 7, 2018 12:14 pm

‘Environmental Courts & Tribunals’
‘A Guide for Policy Makers’, Sept.2016, 142 pages
Australia, Canada, New Zealand, USA
Some history dating back to 1992
Ontario’s Envinomental Review Tribunals

Reply to  David Johnson
February 6, 2018 1:15 pm

How can BIG oil be blamed in the age of Trump? Anything that happens anywhere is Trump’s fault. Or worse, what Melania is wearing today! Light reflected from Melania’s dress causes climate change in Paris.

Reply to  Geoff
February 7, 2018 1:50 am

I thought it must be Brexit.

Reply to  David Johnson
February 6, 2018 1:25 pm

They wouldn’t be if I was running the fuel companies.

Man Bearpig
Reply to  David Johnson
February 6, 2018 2:03 pm

Of course, and probably more now than then.

Reply to  David Johnson
February 6, 2018 2:26 pm

Of course they are. Be funny as heck if all the fossil fuels companies refused to sell fuels to all these Warmist cities, saying “good luck operating without them, folks!”

Reply to  William Teach
February 6, 2018 6:18 pm

Agree even for a stunt it would be worth it, see how fast the normal people move to remove the idiots from office.

Rick C PE
Reply to  William Teach
February 6, 2018 7:25 pm

Maybe the fuel companies could just add one Euro/liter to the fuel price and call it a ‘legal defense surcharge’.

Reply to  David Johnson
February 6, 2018 3:17 pm

Well you can’t have any trucks using evil fossil fuels delivering or picking up either. Three days with no truck traffic and NYC would be on it’s knees with it’s many deranged citizens evacuating. Be interesting to see the city devolve back to the state where they had tremendous problems with horse manure in the streets.

Jeff L
February 6, 2018 12:06 pm

Time for some counter suits against these cities who would deny their citizens cheap reliable energy. Value of the suits = incremental costs of the citizens. Enough playing defense, time to go on the offense

Reply to  Jeff L
February 6, 2018 12:22 pm

Jeff L : +1

Reply to  Jeff L
February 7, 2018 6:04 am

People need to start suing the city and/or government for crimes committed by illegals, bogus refugees, economic migrants and so forth.

M Courtney
February 6, 2018 12:07 pm

It’ either the fault of US corporation or the effect of poor planning by French politicians.
What do you think the French will blame?

Reply to  M Courtney
February 6, 2018 12:19 pm

Who would any politician blame?

Reply to  MarkW
February 6, 2018 1:29 pm

I will go with the money.

Reply to  MarkW
February 6, 2018 3:19 pm

The first principle of jurisprudence… follow the money.

Al Tinfoil
Reply to  M Courtney
February 6, 2018 6:21 pm

Russia supplies a large portion of the natural gas and petroleum used in Europe, so if the French want to be logical, they should add Russian fuel suppliers to the suit. See, it’s Putin’s fault.
Then watch the EU scream when Russia closes the gas and oil pipelines and diverts their gas and oil to China, Korea, Japan, etc.
And they should add Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Iran, Nigeria, Norway, the UK, the USA, etc. as defendants. Might as well get every fuel supplier in the World to cut them off. A triumph for the Green advocates.

Bob Burban
February 6, 2018 12:08 pm

Over the last four centuries or so, Paris has been flooded in 1649, 1651, 1658, 1690, 1711, 1732, 1740, 1779, 1795, 1802, 1830, 1836, 1879-80, 1882-83, 1886, 1910, 1924, 1955, 1982, 1999–2000, June 2016, and now January 2018.

Bryan A
Reply to  Bob Burban
February 6, 2018 12:26 pm

Looks to me like flooding occurs 5 or 6 times per century and can repeat in successive years. Kind of like Normal

Komrade Kuma
Reply to  Bryan A
February 6, 2018 12:59 pm

I can just imagine the case for the defence.
Complete silence. The overlaid photographs projected onto a screen for the judge & jury to see and defence counsel simply saying:-
“Women and men of the jury, Your Honour,
this was a completely natural occurrence,
Quid Est Demonstrandum.
The defence rests”.
Too succinct for a lawyer, probably but compelling on the TV News (if you could get it on that is)

Reply to  Bryan A
February 6, 2018 1:28 pm

In the eastern town of Ornans, home to 4,000 people, the high street was flooded and the ground floor of the town hall underwater.
“We haven’t seen a flood like this since 2002,” mayor Sylvain Ducret told AFP.

Reply to  Bryan A
February 6, 2018 2:11 pm

Komrade, I always thought it was “quod erat”, but I guess either works.

Reply to  Bryan A
February 6, 2018 5:09 pm

quod erat demonstrandum
“what was to be demonstrated”

Reply to  Bryan A
February 6, 2018 6:03 pm

Yep. Normal. Downstream from the confluence of three major river. What do you expect to happen. Of course those rivers are the very reason why the city is there in the first place.

Ben of Houston
Reply to  Bryan A
February 7, 2018 7:46 am

No, Kuma. You have to account for the very real possibility of improved flood controls. That’s something that I don’t like about this very post. For example, remember that during Hurricane Harvey, Central Houston had significantly less flooding than several non-hurricanes in the early 1900s. This was due to huge reservoirs and drainage systems that we built to combat these very sort of situations.
Secondly, don’t forget that the judge and jury are already biased against them due to the situation, so the defense will actively have to prove a negative. What a defendant would have to do in this case is reverse the accusation and show that the French Flood Control board (or whatever it’s called) inappropriately controlled the river. In short, accuse them of using “climate change” as a cloak to hide their own negligence. This is what we’ve done in prior posts on this very site.

John in Oz
Reply to  Bob Burban
February 6, 2018 12:41 pm

But, but, but THIS flood was twice as likely so it’s not the same as all of the others: (my bold)

These approaches involve statistical analyses of the historical temperature record, the trend in a global climate models, regional climate models, and the results of thousands of simulations of possible weather with a regional climate model. Applying multiple methods provides scientists with a means to assess confidence in the results.
I’m surprised they didn’t confirm all of the models with Wanda the Witch’s chicken entrails.

Bryan A
Reply to  John in Oz
February 6, 2018 2:22 pm

They tried but the end results were so fowl that they decided to roll the bones instead.

Mark from the Midwest
Reply to  Bob Burban
February 6, 2018 12:45 pm

You also need to factor in that France, in general, and Paris in particular, has been governed by increasingly progressive ideologues, and subsequently expenditures on real things, like infrastructure, have suffered. Many of the canals are clogged with garbage. A couple years ago one of the canals was finally cleaned only because it ran through an upscale neighborhood, and the natives were restless. They took 40 tons of garbage out, everything from motorcycles to mattresses, and a lot of just plain litter.

Reply to  Mark from the Midwest
February 7, 2018 6:17 am

Only 40 tons? What is that supposed to do? Are you sure it wasn’t 40,000 tons?

Ben of Houston
Reply to  Mark from the Midwest
February 7, 2018 7:51 am

40 tons? To be frank, in a waterway of any length, that’s trivial. I’ve never dredged a river or creek, but when I dredged my ponds, we got over a million pound per acre of mud, dirt, and debris. That’s the level of cleanout you need, as it’s the mud that clogs your drainage, not the refuse.

Reply to  Bob Burban
February 6, 2018 1:27 pm


Reply to  Bob Burban
February 6, 2018 1:41 pm

Spot on Bob. There are very good geological and topographical reasons why the Seine basin, centred on Paris, floods regularly, particularly with regard to the impact arising from the confluence of other major rivers joining the Seine further upstream. As you have demonstrated, before the basin got increasingly concreted over as the city expanded, major flooding occurred regularly. That it does now, is not a surprise to anyone with even a smidgeon of historical knowledge. It is, perhaps, a greater surprise that the flooding isn’t even worse because of modern land use changes. I’d be interested to know how the citizens of Paris could possibly survive today without the assiatance of ‘Big Oil’ energy and products in dealing with the consequences of a flood. Probably not quite as well as the citizens of 1649, 1651, 1658,1690…… etc, etc

Tom in Florida
February 6, 2018 12:12 pm

When will it come to suing everyone who uses fossil fuels as they being the real culprits.

Reply to  Tom in Florida
February 7, 2018 6:13 am

It’s just the usual dog and pony show by the urban useful idiot cheerleaders. No one with a functioning bran cell pays them any attention but seemingly the voter inertia in urban centres is always with them nevertheless.

February 6, 2018 12:12 pm

Yup, that 1910 picture completely destroys the Paris case.

Joel Snider
February 6, 2018 12:14 pm

To be fair, this is far from the only stupid thing they’ve done.

Pop Piasa
February 6, 2018 12:17 pm

“The Fossil Free movement is taking things to the next level in 2018”
Does that mean they will lead by example, or just turn up the anti-oil money?

Joel Snider
Reply to  Pop Piasa
February 6, 2018 12:30 pm

Well, here in Oregon – after the gas tax and the bail-out healthcare tax – NOW Kate Brown is ram-rodding through a California style cap-and-trade.
And I have no doubt the progressive idiots in this state will pass it without a blink.
These pockets of eco-idiocy are like cancers, just waiting to metastasize once the second they regain national power.
Of course, in the meantime, you just have a consolidation of the coastal port states.

Harry Fisher
February 6, 2018 12:24 pm

Just following the good example of Oakland, CA !!

Pop Piasa
February 6, 2018 12:27 pm

What if the oil companies say “see you in court, and by the way we have been advised by our counsel not to sell any more product to areas involved in the suit”?

Reply to  Pop Piasa
February 6, 2018 2:22 pm

I totally support not selling anymore of the product that is “causing all this” especially for the inner city idiots who would deny the rest of us sensibly priced power.

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  Pop Piasa
February 6, 2018 4:02 pm

Precisely. Having been placed on notice that there is a claim of damages, said damages being compounded by the continued sale of the offending product, it would only be prudent for the defendant to cease the claimed pernicious activity, so as to limit actual and punitive damages in the event the case is settled/adjudicated in the plaintiff’s favor…10 years or so from now.

Reply to  D. J. Hawkins
February 7, 2018 6:17 am

Trouble is some Big or Little oil Co. would always break the embargo for profit and promises of immunity. Cannot see how it would work in practice.

Steve Zell
February 6, 2018 12:28 pm

If France gets a cold or snowy winter, they’ll be glad to have some natural gas to heat their homes. If the Russians turn off their spigot, how about a little LNG “made in USA”?
France, to its credit, does not rely on fossil fuels for electric power. They get 80% of their electric power from nuclear fission, and most of the rest from hydro, which works very well in a heavy rain.
Remember, it was the French who coined the expression “apres nous, le deluge” (after us, the deluge).

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  Steve Zell
February 6, 2018 5:51 pm

I attempted to leave the following at their web site but keep getting an HTTP ERROR 405:
“Apologies, first, that my comment must be in English, as I have no facility with the French language. If the people of Paris wish to sue fossil fuel producers for damages, it will clearly be prudent for said producers to immediately cease delivery of their product so as to limit any potential civil damages, since such cases can take many years to adjudicate and they will surely not wish to compound their losses in case the plaintiffs prevail. I wish the people of Paris good luck in heating their homes in the winter and cooking their meals.”

Andre Lauzon
February 6, 2018 12:29 pm

I guess soon we will not be able to fly to Paris anymore. There goes their tourist industry………

Henning Nielsen
Reply to  Andre Lauzon
February 6, 2018 12:53 pm

Right, we’ll go there by oar and sail, ilke in the Viking age! Lots of loot and fun to be had and behead.

Reply to  Henning Nielsen
February 7, 2018 12:54 am

Wait, are you saying there was water in French (Gallic) rivers a thousand years ago? Was it because of FF-driven longships? 😉

Sandy In Limousin
February 6, 2018 12:46 pm

Parisian politicians always go for the easy target, can’t ban wood burning in the city so when pollution gets bad blame diesel cars

February 6, 2018 12:57 pm

All that has happened is that Northern France has got some of the winter rain that normally falls in Southern England, giving floods in the relatively flat former region, and relative “drought” in the latter.
The French should be thanking the fossil fuel companies for a relatively mild winter, and a re-filling of their water reservoirs.

Bruce Cobb
February 6, 2018 1:21 pm

“The Fossil Brain Free movement is taking things to the next level in 2018…”
There, fixed.

February 6, 2018 1:27 pm

It’s not stupid. It’s a proven method to deprive people of money they earned. We use it daily in the USA with lawsuits over drugs and side effects, mesothelioma and anything else one can come up with to sue for. America has used this method for 40 years or more. Easier than raising taxes. Higher probability of success. France is just catching up.
With any luck, they’ll bankrupt the REAL power companies and have endless riots on their hands. For all I know, that may even be the goal. Or maybe it’s just greed. Never underestimate greed.

John harmsworth
February 6, 2018 1:27 pm

What is so stupid about some politicians finding someone to blame for their failures? That is their entire modus operandi. All of them. Find good things to take credit for ( Al Gore/ internet), and find others to blame for your screw-ups. Call me a cynic but then show me a single instance where they did otherwise.
Telling the truth gets you nowhere in politics or climate “science”! Or religion. AGW is a mixture of three kinds of lie-based human mindsets. Probably multiplicative rather than additive. One derangement excites the others.

Paul Seward
February 6, 2018 1:41 pm

I don’t understand why they want to sue the energy providers. The providers don’t burn the stuff they sell, they provide a service to individuals and entities that burn the energy. They should be suing the people who purchase it and drive their cars, or the people who burn it to heat their houses.

Reply to  Paul Seward
February 6, 2018 2:28 pm

As Willie Sutton said, “That’s where the money is”.

Extreme Hiatus
Reply to  MarkW
February 6, 2018 8:47 pm

As Marie Antoinette would say: Let them wear gum boots.

Reply to  Paul Seward
February 7, 2018 6:30 am

If we change the context of your premise just a little bit…
drug dealers….drug users…

February 6, 2018 1:49 pm

It’s simple, Paris
Stop using fossil fuels entirely.
Don’t blame everybody else

February 6, 2018 1:56 pm

US Treasury and SEC should look into the deBlasio-NYC threats as attempted blackmail and extortion against the companies in the suit since those companies likely have billions tide-up in NYC bonds!
Funny that big deBlasio did not go after the numerous “small” oil-gas companies with offices in NYC!
Ha ha

February 6, 2018 2:04 pm

The entire ‘sue big oil’ idea is just more insanity. What will big oil do if they win?
1. Pay less tax due to increased expenses. YOU get less in government handouts & support.
2. Charge YOU more because of increased expenses and the need to appease shareholders.
Who wins? Nobody.
Who loses? YOU

Reply to  Jer0me
February 6, 2018 2:08 pm

Of course I’m assuming that the ‘YOU’ in this equation benefits from government handouts or support, and uses fossil fuels or the products of them (food using fertilizer, plastic clothes, plastic anything, any electricity (try making some without using oil somehow), roads, anything transported (try transporting without oil), etc etc etc).

February 6, 2018 2:05 pm

When the precursors of statrted to attack the resource companies back in the 80s and 90s, most companies simply went with the flow, didnt fight back, and several became “green”. It is now recognised by those same companies that response was a major mistake, reduced their rights under law, and lead to regulatory overreach which has been difficult to reverse. The current push is simply from the same songsheet. The lesson is to fight now.

michael hart
Reply to  DaveR
February 6, 2018 5:13 pm

Exactly. To simply argue that Paris has flooded before is certainly true, but ignores the basic insanity lying at the root of the claim.
That territory must never be ceded to the crazies, because they aren’t going to go away any time soon. The green ratchet works because so many people and corporations too often take the lazy approach and merely kick the can down the road. But the crazies come back with even more outrageous claims and demands because nobody put their foot down with the earlier claims.

Reply to  DaveR
February 7, 2018 11:01 am

The most effective fight would involve not just lobbying of governments, but educating the public about the REAL state of climate science. The fossil fuel companies have been climate cowards. Both Tim Ball and Mark Steyn have had to deal with expensive lawsuits, and I’m surprised Anthony Watts hasn’t been targeted (yet).
Did any of the oil majors even bother to supply any amicus briefs regarding what they know about the true state of climate change? It’s pretty obvious they haven’t spent anything useful for education of the public.
I have no sympathy for them, whatsoever. I’m GLAD they’re getting sued.
Some of the climate loons want to put us in jail. I wonder: if Anthony Watts found himself in jail over his sins against the climate change religion, would Exxon Mobil, e.g., have made a peep? I think not…..

February 6, 2018 2:07 pm

Hodgkins et al. report that “there was no compelling evidence for consistent changes over time in major-flood occurrence during the 80 years through 2010,” adding that “the number of significant trends in major-flood occurrence across North America and Europe was approximately [equal to] the number expected due to chance alone.” Consequently, they conclude that “compelling evidence for increased flooding at a global scale is lacking.”

February 6, 2018 2:19 pm

Fair enough. So long “City of Lights!” You are cut off. -Big Oil

February 6, 2018 2:21 pm

There are dams upstream from Paris. Flood control is a big part of their supposed value. Sue the entities controlling the dams. Of course that’s probably as useful as suing yourself.

Bryan A
Reply to  Albert
February 6, 2018 2:26 pm

Unfortunately the Dams were nearly full at the time of the rains and, as such, needed to open the flood gates to remove the possibility of damage to the dam structures. Just one of those lack of proper prior planning cases.

Reply to  Albert
February 6, 2018 2:56 pm

I remember reading a previous post about CA’s Oroville dam and the failure of the reservoir operators to keep the reservoir from topping over and not having any margin for when more water arrives. As I recall one commenter mentioned that if you had to use your spillway it meant you hadn’t been doing your job and usually lead to dismissal.
Parisian politicians cannot sue nature for raining. They can’t recover any damages from themselves for not operating their safeguards.So….it must be somebody else’s fault.

Reply to  rocketscientist
February 6, 2018 3:18 pm

Rocketscientist …It was the emergency Spillway that should never have to be used. The main Spillway is used regularly but had not been maintained well and failed.

Reply to  rocketscientist
February 6, 2018 3:37 pm

There was a time when they would just look in Germany’s direction for that. At least that was understandable for a period of time.

Reply to  rocketscientist
February 6, 2018 6:49 pm

True, in Oroville it was the emergency spill way that failed as well as the primary, but the commentor mentioned that long before you are using the primary spill way you should be running more outflow through the pen stocks. Failure to watch upstream flows and anticipate the obvious is what caused the issue.
Stay ahead of the curve so to speak.

Reply to  Albert
February 6, 2018 3:35 pm

Additionally, they’re as likely as not on strike and as such, unreachable.

February 6, 2018 2:33 pm

I”m tired of all this sturm und drang over suing fossil fuel companies. Let’s go to court and settle this charade once and for all. My guess is it will never go that far and that would suit the perpetrators just fine so they could continue their shaming unabated.

February 6, 2018 2:45 pm

Meanwhile, back in the real world, Paris is having a bad time with too much snow, just like a lot of the northern hemisphere…

Reply to  Jer0me
February 6, 2018 7:25 pm
Reply to  Jer0me
February 7, 2018 6:42 am

Oh no. I think oil resellers should immediately require a get-out-of-jail card from the city before they refuel bulldozers.
Actually, why not, as others suggested, just totally refuse to sell fuel to the city until they agree that they’re not going to sue the reseller.
No, this is ridiculous again. I think the case is there just to be able to say they’re investigating so others can spin that. Theyre not going to do it. It would be something that made conservatives really annoyed that could give dynamite to already quite active populist center-right in Europe.
The usual word for populist center-right in Eyrope is ‘racist’. The usual word for red green ex-communist is ‘center-left’.

February 6, 2018 4:05 pm

And of course, they’ll be wearing their expensive Patagonia and North Face clothing made of various plastics and fabrics that are petroleum based. Made in China and shipped great distances to their favorite high end store in a liberal, Trump hating city.

Reply to  Allencic
February 7, 2018 7:37 am

+ lol

Moderately Cross of East Anglia
February 6, 2018 4:24 pm

Another reason why this is a self-inflicted piece of Parisian fruitcake thinking lies in the giving up of regular dredging of rivers. I believe, but may be wrong, that neither the Seine nor the Thames are dredged as regularly as they once were. Unsurprisingly, this makes flooding more and more likely as time goes by. Dredgers were once an everyday sight on the Thames, but I can’t recall seeing one in recent times.
It probably would be impossible for the oil companies to boycott providing a major city with their fuels, which is a shame in that they would only need to do this once to wake people up.But there would be deaths from the resultant chaos and the Eco-loons would blame everyone else while urging suing big oil.
On the other hand a drama documentary illustrating our reliance on oil and the uselessness of renewables would make for a compelling film, “The Day the Oil Tankers didn’t come”. Now that would be an educational programme the big oil companies could produce showing them taking a city at its word in not wanting fossil fuels. “What do you mean green energy doesn’t work if it is night and the wind isn’t blowing” demands some mayor. Scarier than any Al Gore twaddle.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Moderately Cross of East Anglia
February 7, 2018 1:08 am

Good observation, and totally correct. There is little dredging of the Thames these days. So, you have a meandering, silty river and estuary system left alone for years, what happens? It silts up and leads to more flooding.

Reply to  Patrick MJD
February 7, 2018 7:47 am

EU regulations are preventing much river dredging on the pretext of protecting wetland habitats I believe. Had we someone with more than a single functioning neuron and more spinal column than a sea cucumber in Britain’s driving seat at least we would now tell them where to shove their idiotic regulations.

February 6, 2018 4:48 pm

Why do cities have large investment portfolios?
The money for those portfolios must have come from it’s citizens, isn’t it high time to demand that back?

Reply to  Willem69
February 7, 2018 10:51 am

Investment portfolios are usually for pensions.

February 6, 2018 6:31 pm

Based on the paleoclimate evidnce and the work that has been done with models one can conclude that the climate change we have been experiencing is caused by the sun and the oceans over which mankind has no control There is no real evidence that CO2 has any effect on climate and plenty of scientific reasoning to support the idea that the climate sensivity of CO2 is zero. So the party ot sue over climate change is Mother Nature. Lots of luck on collecting on a judgement against Mother Nature.

February 6, 2018 7:12 pm

Very smart.
The lawyers know to always go after the big pockets. It’s what they do. The entity being sued doesn’t necessarily have to have any link to what happened.
All they have to do is try to make the defendant unpopular to get a payout.

John F. Hultquist
February 6, 2018 7:33 pm
Divestment ethics and realities
2015 by Paul Driessen
Eliminating fossil fuels from investment portfolios hurts colleges, workers and poor families
… with many links

Johan Meijer
February 6, 2018 9:38 pm

Forget the lawsuit. Lets all boycott those evil fossil fuel companies! That will teach them!
Now. No more buying their stinking products.

February 6, 2018 10:25 pm

“The City of Paris decided today to explore possibilities to sue the fossil fuel industry for causing climate damages” makes about as much sense as “The US Democratic Party decided today to explore possibilities to sue the Russians for causing their candidate Hillary Clinton’s election loss”. Both statements are equally delusional.

Steve (Paris)
February 6, 2018 11:05 pm

Three inches of snow here today and the whole place has ground to a halt. Darned climate change!

February 6, 2018 11:47 pm

The lights of the golden age wehave benefited from are going out, faster and faster.

February 7, 2018 12:22 am

Pretty sure France legal system doesn’t allow this kind of suing. If it did, pretty sure Paris would be flooded under trials

February 7, 2018 12:57 am

The French, and the Parisians in particular, have always had a tendency to go in-Seine from time to time.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Neil Lock
February 7, 2018 1:35 am

From time to time you say, really? Trouble with France, and Paris in particular, it’s full of arrogant French people. (It’s OK. I can say that, I am English).

Reply to  Patrick MJD
February 7, 2018 8:03 am

There is a saying that France is so wonderful, God balanced it out by making it full of French.

Reply to  Neil Lock
February 7, 2018 8:34 am

France is wasted on the French.

February 7, 2018 1:20 am

Over the last 11 years the Cape Town water supply dams have been full 6 times. This year they are about to run dry as happened a number of times since the City was founded and a water supply was formed, 350 years.
This time our mind numbingly incompetent political class has found a new reason for their inability to plan and build ahead, Man Made Climate Change. Cape Town being the national headquarters for the terminally gormless Politically Correct brigade just blames the west in general and Big Oil in particular and the lie is swallowed.
I have met the enemy and he is us. We are our own worst enemy.

Dr. Strangelove
February 7, 2018 3:35 am

“The divestment campaign to get public institutions to cut their financial ties to the fossil fuel industry started in 2012 with the aim to erode public acceptance for the companies most responsible for causing the climate crisis. To date, over 800 institutions including universities, faith and medical groups, the heirs to the Rockefeller oil fortune have taken steps to divest.”
You people lack basic knowledge of finance and economics. The divestments have no impact on oil companies. They do not own these stocks. The impact is on the investors who own them. The fact you sold $6 trillion worth of stocks means there are more investors willing to buy them. The oil companies are happy that their new stockholders are not hostile. They really want to get rid of you anti-fossil fuel investors. So you are giving them a favor by divesting. If you want to cut financial ties to the fossil fuel industry, stop buying gasoline and electricity! Simple as that

Reply to  Dr. Strangelove
February 7, 2018 7:12 am

Right on. All they are doing is throwing away their opportunity to earn money and reducing their influence on the target companies. Maybe McKibben and company are secretly working for Big Oil.

Reply to  Dr. Strangelove
February 7, 2018 10:59 am

I hate to be picky, but retirement funds own a large chunk of large companies. When a major investor blacklists your stock, your market shrinks. Investors will still buy, but at a lower price.
The lower price hurts the company’s ability to obtain loans at low interest rates. Banks use stock price as an important determinate of loan risk vs. reward.
I understand that one fund may not make that much of a difference. But if NY, CA and a few others follow suit, it would.

Reply to  kaliforniakook
February 7, 2018 11:38 am

If too many sell their shares at once, it would certainly drive prices down, but that would just give the energy companies a chance to buy back shares at a discount. That might be an incentive to repatriate some of the $billions they have sitting overseas.

Dr. Strangelove
Reply to  kaliforniakook
February 8, 2018 2:24 am

Low stock price hurts the stockholders not the company. Banks don’t use stock price in granting loans. They use credit ratings to assess credit risk. They look at recurring net income, free cash flow, debt to asset ratio, current ratio, debt service coverage ratio of the company.
Companies don’t normally trade their own stocks but low stock price is an opportunity to repurchase their stocks. They can get a loan to repurchase stocks. The benefit of this is interest expense is tax deductible but dividends are not, it’s an after income tax item. There’s tax savings in paying interest rather than dividends. Plus treasury stocks are deductible to retained earnings. The company can reduce dividend payout and use the cash for business expansion without borrowing from banks thus avoiding interest expense. There’s also opportunity for capital gains. When the stock price increased, they can resell the stocks in the market for profit.

February 7, 2018 3:59 am

Actually, it’s NOT the fault of the oil companies – it’s ALL my fault!
Details below. And it’s all true! Well, mostly. Well, it’s at least as true as the ravings of the Mayor of Paris. Well, the part about Prague is true. I mean, like, totally! Y’know?
Anyway, I take full responsibility for the flooding of Paris, and the oil companies are off the hook.
I’ve got your back, Big Oil! Send me money. Lots and lots of money.
So sue me, Paris, I dare ya! You are messing with the primal powers of the universe! Go ahead, make my day! “Après moi, le déluge!”
Note to all you utterly delusional climate hysterics: This is satire – call off your hit squads.
Back in 2002, I received a threatening email from a furious man who said he held me personally responsible for the flooding of Prague. Yes, me! Flooded Prague! Amazing!
I pondered my new-found powers, which I did not know that I possessed, and replied:
“Yes Sir, you are entirely correct! I am the One, personally responsible for the flooding of Prague! Now “buzz off” – or I’ll do it again!”
That seemed to solve the immediate problem, but it appears that I tempted the Fates, and have now unwittingly unleashed the deluge on Paris.
I must beat my breast in penance, and recite over and over again:
Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa!
Ideo precor beátam Maríam semper vírginem,
omnes angelos et sanctos,
et vos, fratres,
oráre pro me ad Dóminum Deum nostrum.
Having God-like powers is serious stuff!! You’ve got to be really careful what you think, and especially what you say. You never know quite what’s going to happen next – you can’t drink alcohol or smoke dope or even allow yourself to get angry – it’s really a lot more restricting than people think! Whew!

February 7, 2018 5:37 am

Not only is it “the stupid, it burns! but also “the stupid, it freezes!”

Coeur de Lion
February 7, 2018 5:45 am

What has happened to share prices in all this? Anything? Any ff company has a dozen ways to bite back. Including generating a wave of scornful laughter

February 7, 2018 12:43 pm
Paris good old days

Derek Colman
February 7, 2018 5:11 pm

The whole concept is ridiculous. It is not the fossil fuel industries which cause CO2 emissions. The emissions are entirely caused by the end users, the people or companies which buy the fuels and burn them. In fact the ultimate end user is the consumer who heats and lights his home and drives a vehicle. I look forward to the first such law suit coming to court because the company or companies being sued can afford the best lawyers who will destroy the case, setting a precedent which will deter this type of litigation being repeated. That’s before even considering whether there is any convincing evidence that climate change caused the flooding of Paris, and whether said climate change was caused by fossil fuel CO2 emissions. Then maybe the citizens of Paris can sue their local politicians for misusing their tax money to finance a spurious lawsuit. Where does it end?

February 8, 2018 11:26 am

Climate change is so amazing it even caused the flooding in 1910 (and before)!!

February 8, 2018 11:27 am

It would serve them right if oil companies refused to sell them petrol.

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