Record temps up to 100°F expected in SoCal at start of Thanksgiving holiday

From the “cook your turkey on the asphalt while waiting in a traffic jam” department

Dr Ryan Maue of has this informative forecast:

Already in the 80s in Southern California this morning before Thanksgiving. Record highs expected in mid to upper-90s. Possibly a reading of 100°F

And he has the forecast map to go with it:

Of course. the usual caterwauling will commence about this being a sure sign of “global warming”, but in fact, it is nothing more than a weather pattern regularly seen in California. This from the National Weather Service in LA/Oxnard:

A strong upper level ridge of high pressure and light offshore flow will bring sunny and warm conditions to southwestern California for much of the week, including Thanksgiving day. Widespread record breaking heat is expected through Thursday, with highs over the interior portions of the coastal plain and valleys in the 90s. Little relief from the heat is expected overnight for warmer valley and foothill locations with lows only in the 60s to near 80. At the same time, offshore flow will bring continued very dry and breezy conditions, with elevated fire danger through much the coming week. Be sure to stay hydrated during this time, provide water and shade for pets and other domestic animals, and use extra caution with any source of fire.

In their Area Forecast Discussion, they say this:

Strong upper level high pressure and offshore flow will bring very warm and dry weather to the area through Thursday, with record or near record temperatures expected. The high will weaken Friday through the weekend with a cooling trend through early next week. A weakening frontal system could bring light rain to northern areas late in the weekend, followed by gusty north winds and cool weather Monday. Warmer weather is expected Tuesday as north winds transition to a Santa Ana wind event.

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November 22, 2017 11:08 am

As always, record heat is “global warming”! While record cold is just weather.

Joel Snider
Reply to  Gabro
November 22, 2017 12:06 pm

Well, COLD is proof of global warming too, remember. So is stasis. Rain, lack of rain, sunshine, clouds.
Proof is all around us.

Reply to  Joel Snider
November 22, 2017 12:28 pm

True. Whatever happens, it’s because of climate change, it’s our fault, and it’s bad.

Reply to  Joel Snider
November 22, 2017 1:59 pm

Stasis is the most alarming of all — global warming and cooling duking it out for climate supremacy.

Reply to  Joel Snider
November 22, 2017 3:28 pm

Not a l l bad, Gabro.
Someone gets ‘research’ funds.

How is the swamp draining going?
Will a second term be needed?

On this side of the pond, Her Majesty’s Government sits, transfixed by the headlights.

Hinckley Point is going to cost an arm and several legs.
No serious research appears to continue into alternative ‘nukes’; several folk on here think there is hope; I simply don’t have one one-hundred and seventeenth part of the expertise (but it would be nice if HMG was trying!)
Coal – despite >9% of load on a very windy night [Wind ~15%] is demonised.
The Department for Energy, Wasting Hard-earned Taxes and something-or-other is in thrall to Big Wind.
Now – if Big Wind can make money without subsidies, on a level playing field – then, OK; local applications, and perhaps 10% of base load.
But if not – spurn them as you would spurn a rabid dog [Thanks to Rowan Atkinson!].
And all this after HMG got nothing from the EURO Queens, to bring to the table, to convince the much-put-upon (as we see it) electorate, to reject Brexit.

Beggars belief.


November 22, 2017 11:10 am

Just another Santa Ana. It also cleans out the smog about as well as rain.

November 22, 2017 11:15 am

It’s interesting that during La Nina events, i.e. cooler global temperatures and less energy in the atmosphere, the high off the central West coast of California seems harder to push out of the way as the region gets warmer, drier and experiences the warmer, southern side of storm system that do get past the high.

Jacob Frank
November 22, 2017 11:25 am

Isn’t that why there are so many people there

November 22, 2017 11:43 am

I have lived in Southern California only all my life. We can get summer like temperatures almost any time of year. It is all a matter of weather cycles and pressure.

Reply to  willhaas
November 22, 2017 12:24 pm

Yup…Been sitting at the Rose Bowl, New Year’s Day, with snow on the San Gabriels, 90 degrees, when the announcers say that ” this is the best advertisement for people moving to California, from the frozen Midwest and East Coast.”

michael hart
Reply to  Maxx
November 22, 2017 4:50 pm

The same is true in the UK, we can get winter-like temperatures in mid July! (but probably only around 53F).

November 22, 2017 11:48 am

Classic normal meridional flow in the Circumpolar Vortex, that the alarmists will present as abnormal. Plus ca Change

Joel O’Bryan
Reply to  Tim Ball
November 22, 2017 12:20 pm

Easily seen in the IR sat image.comment image

Cold in the Great Lakes.

November 22, 2017 11:56 am

Last I looked, Los Angeles lies on the edge of the Mojave Desert which just so happens to be a hot and dry desert.

November 22, 2017 12:02 pm

100F? Nice & warm — get me a plane ticket to there right away!

November 22, 2017 12:10 pm

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Joel O’Bryan
Reply to  Latitude
November 22, 2017 12:24 pm

yep, nothing higher than 93 F is forecast. Some possible records, but comfortable temp records.

Reply to  Latitude
November 22, 2017 3:31 pm

How is it possible that some of those daily records were set before 2001 – the era of CAGW?
[Yeah – rhetorical, you and I both know these are weather. No more.]

Happy Thanksgiving.

Reply to  Latitude
November 22, 2017 4:29 pm


Extreme Hiatus
November 22, 2017 12:11 pm

Is it possible for the sleaze balls of Hollywood to sweat any more than they already are?

November 22, 2017 12:15 pm

“Possibly a reading of 100°F”….bullsh1t…….the NWS doesn’t even predict anything in the upper 90’s

….possibly getting hit in the head by some DQ

Joel O’Bryan
November 22, 2017 12:16 pm

That just means it is quite comfortable here in So. Arizona. Cool nights, warmer than average days. Higher than average temps in November means no heating needed. No A/C needed here either. Saves me big $’s on my winter gas bill.

But it was long ago noted that when the US SW was warm and dry fall-winter, the Pacific NorthWest is wet and cold.
55 F today for high in Portland. I’ll take 85 F here in Tucson.comment image

November 22, 2017 12:17 pm

“Record highs expected in mid to upper-90s. Possibly a reading of 100°F’ ….such drama
the NWS does not even predict high 90’s

Reply to  Latitude
November 22, 2017 4:30 pm

Most anything is “possible”. That term means nothing as far forecasting, climate, or anything other than the weather person is not very bright.

Steve Zell
November 22, 2017 1:32 pm

It all depends on the wind direction. If they get a big high parked to the northeast, the warm dry Santa Ana winds push the “marine layer” away from the coast, and downsloping winds tend to compress and warm the atmosphere. It’s the same effect that produces the warm, dry weather on the east side of the Rockies during “chinook” winds.

I was in southern California for Memorial Day weekend, with onshore winds out of the southwest. Lots of sunshine, but the temperatures struggled to reach 70 degrees in the “marine layer”.

So if a warm Thanksgiving is blamed on “global warming”, what’s to blame for cool weather in late May?

Reply to  Steve Zell
November 22, 2017 3:35 pm

– Global warming.
Also for late-cropping potatoes.
Of course.
And probably the failure of cardamom seeds to set before St Agatha’s Day {Feast day – February 5th].

Mods – a hint of /SNARC above, you know. Truck loads of hints, in fact.


Len Jay
November 22, 2017 1:50 pm

Meanwhile here in Australia I am experiencing the coolest (SH) spring ever in all my 82 years

Nick Stokes
Reply to  Len Jay
November 22, 2017 2:13 pm

Come to sunny Melbourne!

Reply to  Nick Stokes
November 22, 2017 2:24 pm

WOW, Melbourne “might” get a hot day.

Unheard off. !!

November 22, 2017 1:55 pm

People like it hot, not cold.

Robert Long
Reply to  ntesdorf
November 22, 2017 3:03 pm

People like a controlled atmosphere, recliner and a cold beer! That or they’re not all there.

Reply to  Robert Long
November 22, 2017 3:37 pm

A chilled red wine, please.


Bill Illis
Reply to  ntesdorf
November 22, 2017 3:54 pm

What is a perfect day? 28C, no wind and sunshine. (some might like it a little warmer than that but you will get just as many complainers – nobody complains at 28C).

Reply to  ntesdorf
November 22, 2017 4:32 pm

Ntesdort: Most people do. Personally, I’ll take -20F over 90F any day. I like the cold, snow and winter in general. If I moved for retirement, it would be north, not south.

Robert Long
Reply to  Sheri
November 22, 2017 4:42 pm

That’s quite a temperature spread, quite frankly, I’ll take anything well above -20 and somewhat below 90

Robert Long
November 22, 2017 3:46 pm

Like you’re thinking, at least it’s only a difference in taste

November 22, 2017 4:52 pm

In Oz we were warned a week or two ago that we were in for another massive record-breaking summer due to ‘Climate Change’ (aka CAGW).

Now we are being told we are due for a cool summer, this time due to an ‘unusual’ type of ‘short’ summertime La Nina. I kid you not.

So, hot = Global Warming ™ and cold = unusual thing that happens a lot (as much as the opposite, which is Global Warming ™ as well, of course).

I can’t wait for the excuses if the dreaded ‘pause’ returns, longer than ever 🙂

November 22, 2017 8:07 pm

This high pressure system (center marked) over California is responsible for the warm temperatures.,51.98,247/loc=-117.212,31.494

I hope that high is coming east. We could use a warmup.

November 23, 2017 1:00 am

People are always describing weather as ‘hot enough to fry an egg on your car bonnet’

We don’t get that sort of weather in the UK – so: does it get that hot? Can you fry an egg on your car?

(I have always wanted to try this…)

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Griff
November 23, 2017 3:58 am

One can cook a whole meal using the heat output from the engine. Cooking an egg on a car in the UK, not in a few minutes, but a surface, in full summer sun, yes, after a while, maybe.

In New Zealand, yes, possible, but not rapid. Aus yes, possible, but not rapid. So, pointless. Want to cook an egg and eat it for brekky? Use a stove and a pan.

November 23, 2017 3:01 pm

Isn’t Southern California mostly desert anyways? A hot, dry desert?

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