Guest essay by Eric Worrall
The frantic effort to assemble a workable government out of Britain’s recent national election shambles has taken a delightful new twist, with a surprise demand that Nigel Farage be given a key role in Britain’s new government.
Nigel Farage to be given role in Brexit talks under DUP-Conservative deal – reports
- Former UKIP leader Nigel Farage could be ennobled or given key government role under a DUP deal.
- British Prime Minister Theresa May to face important talks in proposed alliance deal between the Conservatives and the DUP.
- Farage has previously hinted at a return to politics and has been in talks with UKIP’s largest funder.
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British Prime Minister Theresa May could be under pressure to give extreme Eurosceptic Nigel Farage a key role in Brexit negotiations if she strikes an alliance deal with Northern Ireland’s Democratic Unionist Party (DUP), according to new reports.
Senior figures in the DUP have told May that she should keep Farage close and allow him to contribute to EU talks in an effort to prevent him from returning to the helm of UKIP, the party he once led, and launching a counter-campaign against her Conservative party, sources told the Sunday Times.
The figures have also suggested that Farage’s suspected return to UKIP could be abated with the promise of a peerage. Farage is said to have been in talks with Arron Banks, one of the party’s biggest donors, on Friday to discuss the future of UKIP, one of the Conservative’s closest competitors.
“They hold a few cards,” the source said. “They want Farage as a lord or a role in government or he and Arron will put something together that will cause trouble for May.”
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While climate isn’t Nigel Farage’s primary concern, there is no doubt he is a skeptic. For several years, Lord Monckton served as Nigel Farage’s UKIP climate spokesman.
The Democratic Unionist Party, who are making the demand, hold the balance of power in the new UK parliament. Their support is absolutely essential for any hope for embattled British PM Theresa May to form a stable government.
This is a wholly unexpected and delicious twist from the fallout of a UK election, which until polling day presented the British people with a choice between hardline green globalists and raving loony green globalists.
Emboldened cabinet Remainers outnumber the cabinet Brexitiers, and the Mekel – Marcon duo know it.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/06/12/15/415AC7D500000578-4595498-The_new_Cabinet_unveiled_by_Prime_Minister_Theresa_May_yesterday-a-41_1497278082058.jpg
As far as I see it ‘Brexit means no Brexit’
Sorry about the second copy of the comment, don’t know how it happened, unless it was double click on the ‘Post Comment’ button
Vuk
Jeremy Corbyn went through the lobbies with the Tories earlier this year to vote in favour of Brexit.. Their shadow chancellor has confirmed they want to leave the single market.
The current parliament is therefore 90% in favour of Brexit. The leader of the lib dems, the only party to campaign in favour of remaining very nearly lost his own seat.
Brexit remains on course but hopefully will be a more considered version than the more fanciful versions sometimes suggested.
Britain is not gong to shoot itself in the foot but wants to regain control over its borders, decide who they can trade with and make its own laws. In other words to have the trappings of a sovereign nation as that word is understood everywhere but the EU
Tonyb
Hi Tony
Less than 12 months ago 75% + of the Parliament’s members were against Brexit, but they changed their minds ‘pronto’, and if they done it once they could do it again.
There are 52 weeks in a year and ‘a week is a long time in politics’.
Vuk
That was before the results of the referendum were honoured and article 50 was triggered. In two years we will be out of the EU but hopefully everyone will want to seek a sensible future trading arrangement. We will then be a sovereign country again. Why is that so wrong?
Tonyb
Vuk,
It’s OK. No extra charge.
If the Tories wimp out now, they’re done.
But I still suspect Britain will be the last country to leave the EU, still trying to decide whether or not to go in a few years after all the other countries have left.
So the Tories now need Farage for balance?!
Now, if the cabinet meetings are held in The Red Lion just across the road, then our Nigel might be interested, otherwise no deal
I think it’s very unlikely Mrs May is still a Remainer – if she ever was one. Remember that almost everyone expected the Remainers to win the Referendum (I didn’t)… and career politicians like to be seen to be on the winning team. May kept a very low profile indeed during the Referendum campaign and I felt she was possibly a closet Leaver. She was in any event hedging her bets.
After the way the EU panjandrums have behaved since the Brexit vote, I can’t imagine why any UK politician would want to stay in the EU. They have grossly insulted May, and from all accounts she is a very unforgiving lady.
Just in case any US readers don’t know what sort of newspaper the Express is:
http://www.themediablog.co.uk/the-media-blog/2013/09/diana-express-bingo.html
“Here’s Monday’s front page on which The Express declared the SAS had murdered Diana: “
golly, griff, an ad hominem aimed at a whole newspaper?
as you well know loads of people thought that then, these days they believe in climate change instead.
funny old world innit?
Every Fall for the past few years the Daily Express has published a front page warning about the coming winter being the ‘Worst winter for decades’ or ‘Coldest winter for 50 years’, etc.
In September 2015 it published a headline “Coldest winter for 50 YEARS set to bring MONTHS of heavy snow to UK”: http://www.express.co.uk/news/nature/604619/Long-range-weather-forecast-Britain-cold-winter-2015-arctic-snow-freeze
Winter 2015/16 turned out to be the 2nd warmest in both the UK wide (starts 1910) and Central England (starts 1659) temperature series. Despite this, in November 2016 Express again predicted: “FREEZING BRITAIN: Bitter polar air to bring COLDEST winter for more than FIVE YEARS”. Winter 2016/17 turned out to be the 9th warmest in the UK wide record.
Have no doubt that Nathan Rao and the Daily Express will yet again be confidently predicting another “Coldest winter since…’ headline come September. It seems to sell newspapers to people who have a memory span of less than 12 months.
Vukcevic, that sounds like a good old English name, what part of the UK do you live in.
Mr/Mrs/Ms/Miss Robuk, thanks for your attention, obviously sarc/ wasn’t required, but since you’ve asked I’m a man from and of Monte Negro, in the UK just in transit.
Although currently I’m not concerned with origins or place of the Robuks’ abode I wish you good day and success in all of your endeavours.
The DUP is very socially and culturally conservative, but not a supporter of a strong Brexit because they do not want a strong border between Northern Ireland and the Republic.
Nobody wants a strong border. It has been open since 1923, well before the EU. It won’t be a barrier to properly leaving the EU but it might be used as an excuse by duplicitous Remainiacs. There is an open border between Norway and Sweden yet Norway is not in the Customs Union. The Republic is not in Schengen so passports are required to enter from Europe. The UK won’t be stopping tourists. Controls will be around laws associated with employment and residency. Instead of an Iron Curtain the EU uses laws and legal restrictions and regulations to be a European fortress. The sooner the UK is out the better.
God help us if Farage does “help” the government with its negotiations on Britain leaving the EU – he is NO negotiator with or without a peerage!
Melanie Philips is also wholly ignorant of how the EU works and what the treaties which Britain has signed contain. If we do NOT stay in the single market Britain’s economy will be “toast”. Every container, every lorry load, every plane load will have to be VISIBLY checked by a person. This will hold up movement and regarding food which will go “off” unable to be sold. If Britain leaves the Single market we become a THIRD country to the EU and the name UK will be wiped OFF all treaties, agreements, rules, laws, etc.etc. We start again.
The DUP do recognise this but do not seem to be suggesting any practical ways except to stay IN the single market to stop this horror happening. If we stay in the Single Market we could use it as a temporary measure while negotiations take place and once most of the difficulties are sorted out (while trade goes on as normal) then we leave the single market after about 5-8 years to branch out on our own.
Peerage?
“Sir Nigel,” or even better, “Lord Brexit.”
But, Chimp, Norway and Switzerland had to sign up to things like ‘freedom of movement’, which UK politicians can’t, given they promised to control UK borders/reduce immigration…
The access they have only comes in ‘freedom of movement’ flavor…
Switzerland and several other non-EU countries have been getting along fine with the EU. I don’t see any good reason for the EU’s not to give similar terms to the UK, other than vengeance. Come to think of it, Britain did routinely send their dimmest lights as administrators to Brussels, so that would justify some measure of retribution 😉
I agree. What’s the problem?
Switzerland, Iceland, Norway, Albania, Serbia, Kosovo, Macedonia, Montenegro, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Belarus, Ukraine, Moldova, Russia and Turkey seem to manage to trade with the EU without trouble, despite sanctions on Russia.
Not only trade with, but travel freely to fairly easily to and from the EU.
Switzerland although not part of the EU is part of the EEA which has free trade with the EU. The entered negotiations from outside. Norway left what was then the then EU and remained in the EEA.
So unless the EU wants to be vindictive to deter other possible leavers, the Norwegian and Swiss examples should make negotiations easy.
Chimp, are you aware that
Albania, Serbia, Kosovo, Macedonia, Montenegro, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Belarus, Ukraine & Moldova are ‘banana republics’ with the basket case economies.
That must be a very old photo. Trump is smiling.
Trump is still smiling. It’s the ones on the Left who are frowning.
Trump isn’t throwing a fit. It’s the ones on the Left who are throwing a fit.
The ones on the Left seem to be losing touch with reality. Trump is immersed in reality.
Ha ha that’s very good.
Simon,
Ha Ha.
What TA said is very true.
So you two are a comedy duo?
Farage has an evening show on UK’s LBC talk radio station. None of this was mentioned at all tonight. If he’s silent on a subject I think there might be something in the story, but then again he knows we know he knows so it could be double bluff on his part. Who knows?
Right let me get this right…. if he is silent, it’s true…. but if he says it’s true… it’s not. sounds fair.
Normally if it’s not true he would deny it. he’s a honest person when he speaks.
The issue is not lorries and containers being checked at borders – although the French had a particular flair for these tactics to annoy the Brits before we joined the EU – it is about people and the multi-national location of modern corporations.
An example which was missed by most of the MSM in the U.K. was that this weekend Airbus is threatening to move its construction of wings for all European Airbus planes from Britain to mainland Europe unless its managers and employees can move without hinderence between its various factories. This is a perfectly reasonable expectation but if Brexit cocks it up 10,000 direct production jobs will vanish from the U.K. with potentially another 100,000 threatened as a knock on consequence. And a high tech industry is lost. This is not a game and easy throw away lines about no negotiated agreement with the EU being better than a tough deal are irresponsible in the extreme. Britain has to find a way to reach a deal, but so does the EU. Let’s hope cooler heads prevail than the all too loud extremes making the running so far.
There are lots more Airbus like situations waiting to explode in our faces if we don’t get this right.Small and medium businesses are all very well, but they don’t employ as people. We can’t risk losing the big pan-European companies, banks etc.
The airbus is cheap junk anyway let the company fail
Cheap…I don’t think so, I can only afford a small one.
http://www.airbus.com/presscentre/pressreleases/press-release-detail/detail/new-airbus-aircraft-list-prices-for-2015/
Yes…
and airlines operating in the EU must be headquartered in the EU… head offices move, arrangements for UK based budget airlines continuing to operate still neeed thrashing out…
EU pharmaceutical authority must now move to an EU country – pharma companies based near its London offices move along with it.
City finacial firms can’t operate as now in Europe without passporting arrangement under the single market…
And so on.
As many people …
There is no such thing as a ‘soft Brexit’. It will be impossible to negotiate with the EU. The idea is delusional.
The reason is that none of the individuals the UK will be talking to has any popular mandate or accountability. The Parliament itself has no power to initiate legislation. The Commission is unelected. The role which Merkel and Hollande played during the Greek affair was without any democratic mandate for dealing with that matter.
For this reason, the British will be faced with a lot of public pronouncements of a very conciliatory nature, and then in private will be told to take it or leave it.
Essentially the EU, in the grip of as great an irrationality and denial as it was over Greek debt, will demand that if Britain wants to export tariff free to the EU, it must accept unlimited numbers of Rumanians and Bulgarians, as many as want to move in and live in Britain.
No other trading bloc in the world imposes such conditions, and this, the so-called free movement of people, an Orwellian expression if ever there was one, has nothing to do with free trade and everything to do with control.
It will all blow up, and they will end up leaving by force at the end of the two year notice period, without any deal at all.
Read Varoufakis ‘Adults in the Room’ if you really want to understand how the EU works and what it is. Also look at the latest French election and Macron’s plans to make the state of emergency permanent. This is not democracy as we know it.
As usual however, the US, while being very sensitive about its own democracy, will commend to its allies that they give up theirs. It turns out that civil liberties and a constitution are for us, whoever said it was for you too?
The US under the Obama Administration supported the EU. Trump, not so much.
Anthony, please take this page down – it is pure nonsense, the epitome of fake news, and does WUWT no credit to publish such rubbish.
I agree, whether the story is true that someone has proposed this, the possibility of its happening is infinitesimal. If there is one person the Conservative establishment detests more than Corbyn, its Farage.
The logic of your request is that Anthony should take down all the AGW articles that are fake news.
I don’t know whether this CNBC story is accurate or not, but there’s no question that this election was an improbable victory for real conservatives, as the so-called “Conservatives” are now forced to reply on the DUP to form a government. Forcing the liberal “Conservatives” into a marriage of convenience with real conservatives might actually do them, and the UK, a lot of good!
The DUP aren’t perfect conservatives, as demonstrated by their involvement with the “ash for cash”: wood-pellet subsidy “renewable heat incentive.” But they are pro-life, and they’re climate realists who want to put a stop to the crazy leftist politicization of climatology. By UK standards, they are a beacon of Christian decency, scientific integrity & good sense, in an insane age.
This is a remarkably good outcome for the UK!
They are completely out of step with mainland UK social attitudes though
You missed out the DUP being creationists. This kind of spoils the idea that their beliefs are in any way science based
Meanwhile the SDLP and Sinn Fein are both equally anti-abortion – and you would call neither of these “real conservatives”
“Prime Minister Theresa May could be under pressure to give extreme Eurosceptic Nigel Farage a key role in Brexit negotiations”
Extreme Eurosceptic? Oh you mean patriot.
This morning a new Climate Change minister was appointed during the Cabinet reshuffle… with green leanings, apparently
And after criticism Michael Gove has reaffirmed he supports the science of CLimate Change and thinks Trump was wrong to withdraw from Paris agreement.
sound like the new govt is going back on climate change???
Farage is a climate skeptic all right. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFpzaQPKC54
As for the article I really don’t think they will involve Farage in the EU negotiations as they the objective is to aim at a soft Brexit. That is not what Farage wants.
For all the people who insist negotiations will not be possible.. and all that garbage.
So here’s a small fact nobody can deny:-
Governments can give you nothing unless they took it off you earlier.
The EU was a money pit from day one when we gave up sovereignty of our fisheries and it got worse ever since. Now they demand we pay reparations.. No facts why its owed because there are none.
Will leave it at that unless someone else comes out with another silly comment copied from a liars notebook..
Sir Nigel. I like it.
Tories bribe DUP instead of bringing Farage on board:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/northern-irish-dup-leader-london-hopes-finalize-deal-055458516.html