Making America Great Again? USA leads the way in frivolous climate lawsuits
From the “next, let’s sue because the weather was bad for my picnic today” department comes this study that shows just how crazy it’s become. I mean really, what’s next? Sue Exxon because a hailstorm damaged the roof of your house? Or sue the feds the because the Red River in North Dakota flooded in the springtime yet again, because that’s what it does? I would not be surprised if we see something like that this year. The idea that people can litigate action for a “stable climate” is as ludicrous as expecting the universe to revolve around the Earth, something egotistical yet ignorant humans once believed. Stable climate is nothing more than a fable. And, just where in the US Constitution does is say we have a right to stable weather or climate? Nowhere.
Via Columbia University Earth Institute: A new global study has found that the number of lawsuits involving climate change has tripled since 2014, with the United States leading the way. Researchers identified 654 U.S. lawsuits—three times more than the rest of the world combined. Many of the suits, which are usually filed by individuals or nongovernmental organizations, seek to hold governments accountable for existing climate-related legal commitments. The study was done by the United Nations Environment Program and Columbia University’s Sabin Center for Climate Change Law.
Around 177 countries recognize the right of citizens to a clean and healthy environment, and courts are increasingly being asked to define the implications of this right in relation to climate change.
“Judicial decisions around the world show that many courts have the authority, and the willingness, to hold governments to account for climate change,” said Michael Burger, executive director of the Sabin Center for Climate Change Law. Burger said that in the United States, litigation has been “absolutely essential” to advancing solutions to climate change, from the first, successful, lawsuit demanding the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency regulate greenhouse gas emissions, to a recent lawsuit claiming that citizens have a constitutional right to a stable climate system. “Similar litigation all over the world will continue to push governments and corporations to address the most pressing environmental challenge of our times,” he said.
“The science can stand up in a court of law, and governments need to make sure their responses to the problem do too,” said Erik Solheim, head of UN Environment. As litigation has grown, it has addressed a widening scope of activities, ranging from coastal development and infrastructure planning to resource extraction. The scope of individual suits is also growing in ambition, says the report.
Some suits outside the United States have already had results. Among other things, the report describes how, in September 2015, a Pakistani lawyer’s case against the government for failure to carry out the National Climate Change Policy of 2012 resulted in the government designating action points within several ministries, and the creation of a commission to monitor progress.
The report predicts that more litigation will originate in developing countries, where people are expected to suffer many of the worst effects of shifting climate. The report also predicts more human-rights cases filed by “climate refugees,” coming as a direct result of climate-driven migration, resettlement and disaster recovery. By 2050 climate change could, according to some estimates, displace up to 1 billion people. That number could soar higher later in the century if global warming is not kept under 2 degrees Celsius, relative to pre-industrial levels, say some.
International organizations including the UN Office of the High Commissioner for Refugees have already acknowledged the need to address the plights of people displaced by changing climate. But there is yet no international agreement on the rights of such displaced persons, nor on the obligations of countries to respect them.
Technology will not suffice to address coming problems, say the authors; laws and policies must be part of any strategy. They say that because of the Paris Agreement, plaintiffs can now argue in some jurisdictions that their governments’ political statements must be backed up by concrete measures to mitigate climate change.
The paper: The Status of Climate Change Litigation: A Global Review: columbiaclimatelaw.com/files/2017/05/Burger-Gundlach-2017-05-UN-Envt-CC-Litigation.pdf
h/t to Marc Morano
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It droppeth as the gentle rain from heaven
Upon the place beneath: it is twice blest;
It blesseth him that gives and him that takes:
Crazy is relative. It might go far in California courts.
Is California a state or just a state of mind. And after obtaining a constitutional right to a stable climate will California enact a constitutional right to stable geology, thus outlawing any unauthorised movements by the San Andreas fault?
I thought Moonbeam had already outlawed that – by Executive Order.
Sleep well in Ca.
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A constitutional right to a stable climate system? I guess I missed where Mother Nature was a signatory to the Constitution.
There have been no ‘solutions to climate change’ so how can litigation have done anything but line lawyers’ pockets? The climate will change at different rates in different ways and nothing that litigation can force will alter the rates or ways the climate changes. We need a modern King Knut to prevent this malaise of overweening hubris .
A stable climate system? When pigs fly. Welcome to Planet Earth.
Their first job when making the climate stable will be to stop El Nino and El Nina from happening.
“And, just where in the US Constitution does is say we have a right to stable weather or climate?”
And just where in the US Constitution does it say we have a right to kill an unborn baby? or marry a person of the same sex.
You do not understand, Our Elders and Betters in Black Robes believe that words have no meaning, and that the only limit on their power is their will, and their ability to get away with assertions of their power. That is easy to do when then affirm the validity of fashionable opinion among the ruling elite and their peg boys among the media.
Since climate is the subject of fashionable opinion, the Judges will grasp the reins and off we go.
This is a major reason for Trump to refer the Paris non-Treaty to the Senate for its non-approval, and then to formally denounce the instrument. It is not bullet proof, but when dealing with those people, nothing is. Remember words have no meaning.
Risky: Only 22 of 52 GOP senators signed that recent letter to Trump urging withdrawal from the Paris Agreement. Of the 30 others, only 19 votes would be needed to pass the Treaty. They’d be heavily lobbied, and there’d be a massive sit-in around the capitol to pressure them.
It sounds like it is time for skeptics to find out if their particular Senators signed the letter, and if they did not, skeptics should write to them and ask that they add their name, and if they don’t want to add their name, they should provide the reasons why.
Then, any U.S. Senators who would support the Paris Agreement should be voted out of Office at the next opportunity. That would be a good mesaage to send to all our representatives. If they are dumb enough to support the Paris Agreement, then they have no business serving in public office.
The Paris Agreement should be submitted to the U.S. Senate for an up or down vote. I don’t think it has a chance in hell of passing the Senate.
Senator Rand Paul is introducing a bill to force the president to submit the agreement to the U.S. Senate. We should also inquire of our personal Senators as to how they would vote on Paul’s bill, and tell them how we think they should vote.
Republicans need a kick in the butt. It’s time for Republican voters to speak up.
Filing an injunction will not stop an advancing mile-high glacier.
And the glaciers are ‘coming’….. It’s just a matter of time.
Some countries would actually benefit from an additional degree or two of warming, with accompanying changes in rainfall, longer growing seasons and the like.
Can we expect them to go to the UN to argue for leaving “climate change” the hell alone??
and so, the Erosion of Civilisation creeps inexorably on.
(There’s no way to ‘shut these people up’ without them saying you should ‘shut up’. Itza pig innit?)
There’s a reason lawyers have been held in such contempt for so long. That got a good laugh in it’s day and every day since.
The end game is clear: Get a Court to impose a judgement that circumvents treaty and law (not to mention history and science) and restrain the US Government from ever leaving Obama’s pos agreement as something untouchable. We have a lot less time to save ourselves than most believe. How to get Mr. Trump back on board? Climate is the *key* to draining the swamp….
Gaaaaah! “… its day”, not “… it’s day” !
I blame auto-correct — it’s probably my biggest enema.
As I’ve always said, the primary purpose of the legal system is to keep lawyers employed.
Everything else is secondary, or lower.
Lawyers are only educated in the law. Not other disciplines such as science and history. I’m told there is no time in their training for such things
In court they appear to only cite precedents for their opinions, as far as I can see.
Those defending will select the favourable precedents and those prosecuting will select those favourable to their clients.
It is odd then that lawyers as judges seem to be allowed to pronounce on subjects they are unlikely to have any acquaintance with.
They can be seen perhaps as just middlemen representing opposing views for money. An honourable way of making a living, of course, but nothing more.
A mate of mine, a highly expensive lawyer said all legislation was deliberately drafted to be open to as many interpretations as possible so as to maintain the highest possible income stream for lawyers.
So, has Congress and/or the White House found a way to legislate away all “rainy days” ?
In Camelot….
In Camelot!..That’s how conditions are…..
What a can of worms is here opened up.
Sheesh!
Happening in the USA:
https://www.ourchildrenstrust.org/us/federal-lawsuit/
If our governments don’t legislate to rob billions from the poor, destroy millions of job creating industries, clean water, sewerage plants, hospitals, mitigation of extreme temperatures both hot and cold, therefore killing millions by ghastly murder by making electrical power too costly to all but a privileged few based on a religion and not science I am going to sue that government.
That sounded kind of familiar? Oh yeah, here it is! –
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/feared-migration-hasn-t-happened-un-embarrassed-by-forecast-on-climate-refugees-a-757713.html
If they’re desperate enough to recycle that old failed prediction can the failed “Himalayan glaciers will be all gone by 2035” prediction be far behind?
+1 — great research!
Gone? How come they’re growing?
Of course it works both ways. If you sell your beach house because ten years ago you were told by ‘climate scientists’ that it would be flooded by rising sea levels that they predicted from their models then surely you should be able to sue said scientists if the property did not flood as they said it would.
Perfect. Sue for lost profit because the price of the house went up. Sue for lost enjoyment of the lost vacations to the house.
And sue for lost tourism revenue at beach towns as in the Deepwater Horizons fund payouts
1) as a journalist, it really makes me cringe when such “reports” spout a lot of scary claims and predictions and back this up with the incredibly vague phrase, “some say” as the citation. “Some say” the world is flat.
2) don’t civil lawsuits have to prove actual damages in order to consider the suit? Normally there can’t just be a claim of damage done to a person, they have to show it clearly so that the value of the damage can be assessed, and they require proof of it. If someone claimed they were forced out of their home by rising sea levels and Exxon was responsible, as a judge I’d ask for the proof. I don’t see how they could even come close to proof.
I know, no proof of AGW is required nowadays… even in court I guess.
It didn’t hail on this day last year. It did hail this year. CO2 is higher this year than last.
Ergo, CO2 caused the hail that damaged my house.
/sarc
No different to whats happening here in little old New Zealand – http://beta.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11862450
That looks like free advertising and marking time for a career on idle.
Psychic prediction are now legal proof, I guess.
Climate Seance.
Support climate stagnation! Hold your breath and don’t exhale!
Next we’ll see a flurry of bottom dwelling trial lawyer ads on late night TV.
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We actually are probably in a time where the climate is more stable than at any other time in near past.
LIA was bleak, and apparently the weather was atrocious.
The warming out of the LIA has been totally and absolutely beneficial, and a bit more warming would continue to reduce the temperature difference between the equator and higher latitudes, leading to an even more BENIGN climate
If you believe that CO2 causes warming, then why would anyone want to stop it…
… particularly as it leads to more abundance in food for the whole planet.
While we are still just a jot above the COLDEST period in 10,000 years, we actually live in rather STABLE climate times.
Meanwhile it seems Mr Trump’s views on climate change are “evolving”…
“(TAORMINA, Italy) — President Donald Trump’s views on climate change are “evolving” following discussions with European leaders who are pushing for him to stay in the Paris climate accord, a top White House official said Friday.
“He feels much more knowledgeable on the topic today,” said Gary Cohn, Trump’s top White House economic adviser. “He came here to learn, he came here to get smarter.”
What could that possibly mean, “evolving?” Perhaps he is going to stay in the Paris agreement? This is going to be interesting to watch…..
If he does stay in the Paris Agreement, a large proportion of the people who voted for him will turn their backs on him.
Again we may have the situation of a conservative politician bowing to the manic yapping of the far left.
Guess what… It has never worked in the past… and it will never work in the future.
AndyG55
Maybe you are right…. then again maybe not. People who voted for Trump did it for a few reasons. Sure some will throw their toys over this (if he stays), but most of his hard nosed supporters wont care.
Its about numbers. He needs to retain the support of ALL those who voted for him…
Why go down the wimp line, and cow-tow to those who would never vote for anything except the like of Obama or Clinton?
AndyG55
So trying to understand is being a wimp? Explains why “you” don’t bother to try.
1) The United States is not “in” the Paris environstalinist deal. That was purely the former president’s hobbyhorse. What he did matters as much as his replacing the flowers on the Whitehouse tables with bowls of — ooo, doesn’t that look SO lovely (cough) — fruit.
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2) Take heart! All is well.
(1)
(Source (copied about 20 minutes ago): https://www.whitehouse.gov/america-first-energy )
(2)
(Source: https://www.pri.org/stories/2017-03-28/trump-about-end-obama-era-emissions-cuts-how-will-co2-emissions-change )
Donald J. Trump is by no stretch of the imagination pro-AGW
(the trollish snide comments of the video’s maker nicely underscore the above. 🙂 )
(youtube)
00:26 A big scam.
1:42 {renewables} not economically viable
(and China is doing the smart thing by using coal)
2:22 This very expensive GLOBAL WARMING bullshit has got to stop.”
(Donald J. Trump tweet, 1/2/14)
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MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN — LIVES!
#(:))
http://time.com/4796217/g7-donald-trump-climate-change-views-evolving/?utm_source=nl-politics-daily-052617
That article’s highly premature “conclusion,” Mr. Knights (the same one I was replying to above, referred to by Simon above), was based entirely on this man’s testimony:
(Source: http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/05/gary-cohn-donald-trump-get-smarter )
I am not ONE BIT worried about where Donald J. Trump stands on the AGW issue.
Mr. Cohn should be worried about his job….
Donald Trump is all about: Make America Great Again.
Mr. Cohn is all about: Mr. Cohn’s and his cronies’ investments (hint: they are not in coal).
“Mr. Cohn should be worried about his job…”
Janice, I heard a report today that spokesman Sean Spicer gave one version of Trump saying “Germany is bad”, and then Mr. Cohn tried to come along later and clear things up, and he ended up making things worse, and so Trump cutoff all access to the press for the rest of the day. Don’t know if Trump is mad at the press or at his spokesmen. Trump is supposedly going to go on offense with the press and the Democrats over all the lies they have been spewing, when he gets back from Europe. He’s setting up his “war room”. 🙂
Trump supposedly said something like “Germany is bad” which was mistranslated in a German newspaper as Trump saying, “Germany is evil”, so his spokespeople said Trump was talking about the huge number of German cars that were coming into the U.S. and running up the trade deficit, and that was what was bad, not the nation of Germany in general, as was misconstrued by the Leftists on both sides of the Atlantic. The Left is good at misconstruing things. It’s their bread and butter.
War room! Coming soon!
Janice, I wasn’t endorsing the report, just providing the link that the initial commenter omitted.
“If American car companies could make a product of the same quality as Germany makes…”
You are clearly unaware that BMW manufacture cars for the US market in in Greer, South Carolina.
The science does NOT stand up in court.
A “trial” in one or more informal “science courts” would add clarity to this matter.
Why was it egotistical for humans to believe that the earth didn’t move and that the heavens moved about the earth?
All of their senses were telling them that the the earth did not move, and the heavens did?