Oh noes! Global warming kills gut bacteria in lizards

From the UNIVERSITY OF EXETER and the department of “likely headed for Retraction Watch” comes this study that doesn’t seem to pass the smell test, because putting lizards in hot boxes isn’t the same as lizards in the wild, and the diurnal variation of temperature far exceeds 2-3°C. More likely, the lizards are reacting to stress from the environment, and have less bacteria because they’ve been isolated from their normal exposure to microorganisms.

Climate change could threaten reptiles by reducing the number of bacteria living in their guts, new research suggests.

Scientists from the University of Exeter and the University of Toulouse found that warming of 2-3°C caused a 34% loss of microorganism diversity in the guts of common lizards (also known as viviparous lizards).

In the experiments, lizards were put in temperature-controlled enclosures and samples of their gut bacteria were tested to identify which bacteria were present.

The diversity of bacteria was lower for lizards living in warmed conditions, and the researchers found this had an impact on their survival chances.

By raising the temperature by 2-3°C in their experiment, the researchers reflected warming predicted by current climate change models.

“Our research shows that a relatively small rise in temperature can have a major impact on the gut bacteria in common lizards,” said Dr Elvire Bestion, of the Environment and Sustainability Institute on the University of Exeter’s Penryn Campus in Cornwall.

“More testing is now needed, and it is highly possible that we will see similar effects in other ectotherms (cold-blooded animals such as reptiles and amphibians which depend on external sources of body heat).

“Given the importance of bacteria to digestion, it is crucial that more research is now carried out to investigate this overlooked effect of climate change.”

Climate change is now considered as the greatest threat to biodiversity and ecological networks, but Dr Bestion said its impacts on the bacteria associated with plants and animals remain largely unknown.

“We are only now starting to understand the importance of gut microbiota in the physiology of all species, including humans,” she said.

“These bacteria are linked to everything from digestion to immunity and obesity.

“The gut is the latest health craze in humans – with everything from probiotic yoghurts to faecal transplants being marketed – but almost no studies have been done on how the changing climate will affect these microbes.”

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The paper, published in the journal Nature Ecology and Evolution, is entitled: “Climate warming reduces gut microbiota diversity in a vertebrate ectotherm.”

Added: (referenced in my comments below), the press release: https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2017-05/uoe-gwk050517.php

Added: best comment of the thread –

I’m not a biologist by trade, but I do keep extremely rare lizards as pets (legally – a difficult but not impossible thing if you have enough money). I’m also involved with conservation (because I care), and so there is plenty of interaction with academic biologists and practicing zoologists as well as private individuals who share my hobby. I haven’t read the details of this experiment, so this is off-the-cuff commentary on the scientific environment, not the specifics of the experiment per se.

1) Academics trust other academics way too much – even the sketchiest of conclusions sometimes wind up being taken as gospel, to the point where I sometimes wonder what freaking planet they live on because it’s not this one.

2) Academics gravitate towards disaster scenarios. Any change horrifies them. Optimism about change in the environment is treated as religious delusion (bask in the irony of that for a moment, please). I’m an atheist, and some of the conversations I have with academic scientists are just as strange and uncomfortable for me – in the exact same way – as dealing with deeply religious people (if that’s your thing, then that’s your thing – I don’t hate or dislike you, but I do think it’s weird. You’re perfectly free to think I’m weird too. It’s cool. We can still get along). This doesn’t mean there aren’t plenty of bad-to-awful changes, but there are far more predictions of strongly negative outcomes than there are actual negative outcomes of any magnitude.

3) Nature adapts extremely well. This is probably why the Earth isn’t a barren rock right now, because plenty of things (of which human activity is some tiny sliver of 1%) have tried to kill us all. Our captive animals do “scientifically impossible” stuff on a regular basis. Of course, it’s not really “scientifically impossible,” it’s just that the conclusions they are violating were arrived at without much actual science taking place.

4) Lizards adapt better than most. Freakishly well. There are plenty of people that do a downright awful job of keeping lizards as pets and it doesn’t kill the animals. The common belief that lizards are boring pets is largely based on the fact that most lizards kept as pets are half dead – and they can stay that way for years (all the necessary info is available for free on the Internet, so no excuses for these idiots). With proper care they are quite vibrant and interactive animals, with a surprising amount of personality. In any case, if I had a dime for every time a so-called scientist told me that a 2º-5º C change in environment temperature (or similarly small changes in humidity, UV light exposure, etc) would be the end of the lizard world and I already knew for a fact that people were keeping very healthy animals (as far as we can measure, and we do) with those changes… I could afford to buy a lot more lizards.

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Added: comment from Rud Istvan suggests the paper is fatally flawed

Paper is paywalled, but read the SI, which gives some big clues as to what is actually going on. There were three sets of 3 ‘Metratron’ 100m2 semi outdoor enclosures, all supposedly identical in plants and food invertibrates. Controlled for moisture and temp, netted to prevent predation. Three each for Present climate ‘PC’ avg june-sept temp 26.6C, peak 29.5C, intermediate ‘IC’ J-S avg 28.2 peak 31.5, and warm ‘WC’ avg 28.4 peak 32.1. All stocked June 2012 with near identical numbers (~30) of adult and juvenile matched sex ratio wild caught lizards. Left for 1 year, but only the summer months June -Sept had IC or WC. the fall, winter, and spring were PC in all nine enclosures.

All the surviving lizards were caught May 2013 and the cloaca sampled for bacteria. But they ended up having to exclude the IC group from the final analysis, because in one of the IC enclosures only 3 lizards survived the year. The SI specifically says that the reduced WC gut flora had TWO causes: 2-3C, and higher mortality. They therfore don’t know The temperature impact alone because of the mortality difference.That detail never made it to the abstract or the PR.

Looked up other papers on lizard microbiomes. (Weird, two in 2017 already.) Turns out captivity by itself changes microbiomes. Turns out that in the wild, there is a significant degree of individual variation depending on accidental juvenile diet, which is mainly how lizards pick up the bacteria from the insects they eat. Now the experimental method for this paper simply threw all the PC or WC samples together for genetic analysis to identify all the bacteria in all the lizard cohort. The reported 34% reduction in WC microbiome gut flora species compared to PC could simply be from fewer surviving individuals, so automatically less bacterial diversity.

Without controlling for mortality and individual lizard bacterial diversity, this pseudoresult is just more junk climate science.

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Paul
May 8, 2017 10:30 am

Seems this study could provide plenty of raw materials for those “faecal transplants”.

Coeur de Lion
May 8, 2017 10:39 am

More research needed. Ter-ching!

Janice Moore
Reply to  Coeur de Lion
May 8, 2017 11:16 am

Yup. And what is sad is, these are very likely legitimate, earnest, biologists who only want to know more about the digestive tract bacteria of reptiles.
SO SAD that they can’t just say: Say, Funder Dunders! We’d like to do some basic research about digestive bacteria. How about it? and receive as an answer
Sure! Here ya go!

Random Person
May 8, 2017 10:46 am

I’m not a biologist by trade, but I do keep extremely rare lizards as pets (legally – a difficult but not impossible thing if you have enough money). I’m also involved with conservation (because I care), and so there is plenty of interaction with academic biologists and practicing zoologists as well as private individuals who share my hobby. I haven’t read the details of this experiment, so this is off-the-cuff commentary on the scientific environment, not the specifics of the experiment per se.
1) Academics trust other academics way too much – even the sketchiest of conclusions sometimes wind up being taken as gospel, to the point where I sometimes wonder what freaking planet they live on because it’s not this one.
2) Academics gravitate towards disaster scenarios. Any change horrifies them. Optimism about change in the environment is treated as religious delusion (bask in the irony of that for a moment, please). I’m an atheist, and some of the conversations I have with academic scientists are just as strange and uncomfortable for me – in the exact same way – as dealing with deeply religious people (if that’s your thing, then that’s your thing – I don’t hate or dislike you, but I do think it’s weird. You’re perfectly free to think I’m weird too. It’s cool. We can still get along). This doesn’t mean there aren’t plenty of bad-to-awful changes, but there are far more predictions of strongly negative outcomes than there are actual negative outcomes of any magnitude.
3) Nature adapts extremely well. This is probably why the Earth isn’t a barren rock right now, because plenty of things (of which human activity is some tiny sliver of 1%) have tried to kill us all. Our captive animals do “scientifically impossible” stuff on a regular basis. Of course, it’s not really “scientifically impossible,” it’s just that the conclusions they are violating were arrived at without much actual science taking place.
4) Lizards adapt better than most. Freakishly well. There are plenty of people that do a downright awful job of keeping lizards as pets and it doesn’t kill the animals. The common belief that lizards are boring pets is largely based on the fact that most lizards kept as pets are half dead – and they can stay that way for years (all the necessary info is available for free on the Internet, so no excuses for these idiots). With proper care they are quite vibrant and interactive animals, with a surprising amount of personality. In any case, if I had a dime for every time a so-called scientist told me that a 2º-5º C change in environment temperature (or similarly small changes in humidity, UV light exposure, etc) would be the end of the lizard world and I already knew for a fact that people were keeping very healthy animals (as far as we can measure, and we do) with those changes… I could afford to buy a lot more lizards.

I Came I Saw I Left
Reply to  Random Person
May 8, 2017 11:04 am

“Academics gravitate towards disaster scenarios. Any change horrifies them. Optimism about change in the environment is treated as religious delusion (bask in the irony of that for a moment, please).”
I have noticed a marked similarity between what I call “climate porn” websites and bible prophecy websites. They both obsess over weather/world events as proof that the end of the world is nigh.

May 8, 2017 11:31 am

Paper is paywalled, but read the SI, which gives some big clues as to what is actually going on. There were three sets of 3 ‘Metratron’ 100m2 semi outdoor enclosures, all supposedly identical in plants and food invertibrates. Controlled for moisture and temp, netted to prevent predation. Three each for Present climate ‘PC’ avg june-sept temp 26.6C, peak 29.5C, intermediate ‘IC’ J-S avg 28.2 peak 31.5, and warm ‘WC’ avg 28.4 peak 32.1. All stocked June 2012 with near identical numbers (~30) of adult and juvenile matched sex ratio wild caught lizards. Left for 1 year, but only the summer months June -Sept had IC or WC. the fall, winter, and spring were PC in all nine enclosures.
All the surviving lizards were caught May 2013 and the cloaca sampled for bacteria. But they ended up having to exclude the IC group from the final analysis, because in one of the IC enclosures only 3 lizards survived the year. The SI specifically says that the reduced WC gut flora had TWO causes: 2-3C, and higher mortality. They therfore don’t know The temperature impact alone because of the mortality difference.That detail never made it to the abstract or the PR.
Looked up other papers on lizard microbiomes. (Weird, two in 2017 already.) Turns out captivity by itself changes microbiomes. Turns out that in the wild, there is a significant degree of individual variation depending on accidental juvenile diet, which is mainly how lizards pick up the bacteria from the insects they eat. Now the experimental method for this paper simply threw all the PC or WC samples together for genetic analysis to identify all the bacteria in all the lizard cohort. The reported 34% reduction in WC microbiome gut flora species compared to PC could simply be from fewer surviving individuals, so automatically less bacterial diversity.
Without controlling for mortality and individual lizard bacterial diversity, this pseudoresult is just more junk climate science.

RWturner
Reply to  ristvan
May 8, 2017 12:53 pm

I don’t know the natural population density for these lizards, but after seeing the mortality rates being so high for all enclosures, I suspected that the density in the enclosures were higher than in nature. There was no connection at all between microbial gut content/density and mortality.
Also notice that the lizards were captured from a north facing alpine forest at 4,100′ elevation at a higher latitude and enclosed in netted cages in an open field next to a road at 1,100′ elevation. So their PC enclosures were very likely already warmer than their natural environment to begin with, not to mention the myriad of environmental differences.

Chimp
Reply to  RWturner
May 8, 2017 1:10 pm

Definitely.
Z. vivipara is a high latitude and high altitude lizard, but tolerates a wide range of temperatures.
Still, the environments concocted by the “researchers” for restricted mobility lizards would not occur in nature.

Random Person
Reply to  ristvan
May 11, 2017 1:47 pm

This. We’ve found is that many lizards are highly stressed by environmental changes that seem trivial to us mammals. And then some aren’t – even identical species from the same clutch. There is a range of “personalities” and stress response from animals that are genetically very similar. We deal with lizards that are bigger/smarter than anoles, but one thing I’ve learned is to never underestimate their capacity for complex behavior.
In any case – again, I don’t know the details – but I would suspect that a valid experiment would require much larger environments and at least two or three generations of animals to produce good results. It’s probably a 5-10 year project, at least. There’s been one well-documented example of small lizards massively changing their digestive and metabolic systems to adapt to changes in food supply over a 50-year period, so adapting to a few degrees in temperature and variations in gut bacteria is probably not going to be an issue. If it was, it would likely be a very odd corner case.

Schrodinger's Cat
May 8, 2017 11:41 am

Thanks, Anthony, for yet another example of academic garbage.
This line says it all. “Given the importance of bacteria to digestion, it is crucial that more research is now carried out to investigate this overlooked effect of climate change.”
Send the money now! As a scientist, I cringe every time one of these papers appears but please keep them coming. They fully deserve the ridicule that they get here.

Chimp
May 8, 2017 12:33 pm

Dr. Bestion notes that WUWT commented on her paper.
http://elvirebestion.weebly.com/

Chimp
May 8, 2017 12:50 pm

This “research” is particularly preposterous, since Zootoca vivipara has such a wide geographic and altitudinal range, and has adapted to so many different environments. The viviparous or common lizard lives farther north than any other non-marine reptile species. Its range extends north of the Arctic Circle. It’s widely distributed across Eurasia from Ireland to Hokkaido and Sakhalin Islands. (There may be no snakes, but there are lizards in Ireland.)
In the southern parts of its distribution, the species lives at high elevations, occurring as high as 3000 meters above sea level in the Alps. In these areas, the viviparous lizard lives in damp locations, often near water, including meadows, swamps, rice fields, by brooks and in damp forests. In the northern part of the range, Z. vivipara is also found in lowlands, where it occurs in drier environments, including open woodland, meadows, moorland, heathland, fens, dunes, rocks, roadsides, hedgerows and gardens. It lives mainly on the ground, although it may climb onto rocks, logs and low-growing vegetation.
If any land vertebrate order is well equipped to deal with “global warming”, it’s surely squamates, which date at least from the Triassic-Jurassic boundary, when Pangaea started splitting apart. Lizards and snakes diversified wonderfully during the hottest part of the Mesozoic, to include dominating Late Cretaceous seas, as mosasaurs, which evolved rapidly from terrestrial Texan lizards, while ichthyosaurs were going extinct.

Chimp
Reply to  Chimp
May 8, 2017 1:12 pm

Other instances of rapid lizard and snake adaptation and evolution abound, to include observed speciation events.
After the extinction of large dinosaur predators, gigantic snakes became top predators in some habitats, as too of course did big, flightless birds, replacing their theropod kin.

Chimp
Reply to  Chimp
May 8, 2017 2:04 pm

Squamates have also repeatedly evolved leglessness. But only snakes have lost their eyelids and external ears as well.
A fascinating order.

Chimp
Reply to  Chimp
May 8, 2017 1:44 pm

One of the evolutionary advantages of squamates is the variety of their reproductive strategies. Most lay eggs, but many give live birth, like Z. vivipara (hence its specific name). Pathenogensis is also fairly common.
A new hybrid species recently created in the lab reproduces parthenogenetically, ie it clones itself. The hybrids are usually sterile, but one experimental female managed to reproduce without mating, as has been widely observed in other, wild lizard species.

Sara
May 8, 2017 1:05 pm

Doesn’t say what species of lizards, just wild caught. Without knowing which species was used as a sampling, this research project comes off as invalid. Since there are at least 4.675 species of lizards on this little planet of ours, some of which are kept as pets and live quite well for years. The natural lifespan of a lizard can run anywhere from 1 to 20 years. Iguanas, for example, will live from 10 to 12 years as pets and some have exceeded 20 years in length. Monitor lizards kept in captivity have lived past 20 years.
This seems more like an episode of animal cruelty than anything else, the implication being that the real purpose of the study was to find out how long it would take to decimate the captive population of lizards than anything else. And the study doesn’t mention what specific food resources these lizards were supplied with, whether or not they had adequate water and ventilation and what diseases they were exposed to, never mind the shock of capture and restricted movement. My guess is that the dead samples starved to death and may have even become dehydrated, and the temperature had less to do with it than carelessness on the part of these bumbling researchers.
These people were/are idiots. I think they should be charged with animal cruelty.
I once knew a gila monster who told me he was an apatasaurus on his mother’s side. We all have our dreams, you know.
Lizard lives matter!!!!!

May 8, 2017 1:16 pm

Exeter University is infested with left wing members of the greenblob.

Neil Jordan
May 8, 2017 1:28 pm

Reminds me of my undergraduate zoology days. A fill in the blanks exam question correctly answered was (hypotheticals from memory, as I changed careers decades ago):
Lack of (Vitamin C) and (fruits) causes (scurvy) in hogs.
One student not incorrectly answered:
Lack of (food) and (water) causes (death) in hogs.

Chimp
Reply to  Neil Jordan
May 8, 2017 1:37 pm

Swine, like all mammal species except for the closest primate relatives of humans, ie tarsiers, monkeys and other apes, plus guinea pigs, their caviid kin capybaras and many, if not all bats, can make their own vitamin C.
The caviid and bat genes for vitamin C are broken in different places from the nonfunctional simian gene and from each other.

Reply to  Chimp
May 8, 2017 2:21 pm

Now that is something I did not know. Fascinating factoid about mammals and Vitamin C.

Chimp
Reply to  Chimp
May 8, 2017 2:51 pm

The vast majority of vertebrate species can synthesize vitamin C. Among mammals, it’s at least 4000 out of some 5500, depending upon how you rate bats.
When I was a biology undergrad, 1969-73, only the Indian fruit-eating bat was known not to be able to make its own vitamin C. Now, it appears that Chiroptera as a whole is in the process of losing this ability. Most have lost it completely. In a test of 34 species from six major families, including both insect- and fruit-eating bats, all were found to have lost the capacity to synthesize it. This loss may derive from a common bat ancestor, as a single mutation. However, recent results show that there are at least two species of bat, the frugivorous Rousettus leschenaultii and insectivorous Hipposideros armiger, that have retained their ability to produce vitamin C.
In the simian case, it clearly is from a single mutation in the last common ancestor of tarsiers, monkeys and apes. I don’t know enough about the cavy rodent case to conclude whether there were a single ancestral event or both species lost the ability independently, or even if other cavies besides capybara and guinea pigs have been tested for vitamin C functionality. I don’t know if the two caviid species’ genes are broken in the same way, which would support a single mutation, but do know that the guinea pig mutation is different from both at least one bat’s and the primate break.

Reply to  Chimp
May 8, 2017 3:07 pm

Chimp, you have got to post here more. Devise some neat stuff. I made a stab over at Judith Curry’s recently on the climate related transition from hunter gatherer to sedentary agriculture. Completely out of my wheelhouse, and inspired by a guest post here. Survived mostly intact until Javier pointed out was not a new idea amongst anthropologists, only recently coming into acceptance. We all learned something. Contribute here more than comments, please.

Chimp
Reply to  Chimp
May 8, 2017 3:15 pm

I don’t know enough about the relevant disciplines to write a worthwhile post about “climate science”, but do have sufficient scientific background, IMO to comment.
If our esteemed host wanted to expand the blog into the life sciences, I could contribute, or even geology, although there are commenters here far better educated and more experienced in that field than I.
And if I posted something about my areas of expertise in the life sciences, the many creationist readers of this blog would be disturbed. The most interesting area of research in this century has been origin of life, since it promises so much to increase our understanding and make possible great advances in the basic science behind medicine. But to creationists the chemical evolution leading to the onset of life, ie self-replicating, metabolizing organic chemical compounds capable of biological evolution, is anathema to be resisted into the last trench.

Owen in GA
Reply to  Chimp
May 8, 2017 4:37 pm

Chimp,
You don’t have to just write about climate science. The site mission is

News and commentary on puzzling things in life, nature, science, weather, climate change, technology, and recent news

You can write on nature, science in general or puzzling things about life.

Owen in GA
Reply to  Chimp
May 8, 2017 4:41 pm

And upsetting people is the last of the worries! Facts go where they may. Personally I don’t have a dog in the creation evolution debate, but for the beginning it comes down to faith either way. We see a common genetic pathway, but not the how or responding to what of how the path was trod. As long as people stay civil about it, I don’t have any problem arguing either side.

Chimp
Reply to  Chimp
May 8, 2017 4:58 pm

Owen,
There is no scientific debate between biology and creationists. Evolution is a scientific fact, ie an observation, and creationism is not science. There is also a body of theory seeking to explain the natural and experimental observations, same as with every other scientific theory, such as universal gravitation. Evolution is far better understood than gravitation.
No faith is required to observe the fact of evolution. Creationism is nothing but blind faith, without a shred of scientific evidence in its favor. That “God did it!” is not a scientific hypothesis, subject to test and falsification of predictions made on its basis. Every prediction of creationism has been shown false, none of which was based upon a scientific hypothesis, since supernatural non-explanations aren’t scientific.
Our hosts’ mission statement has, it appears, changed more to concentrate on “climate science”. I can’t take the time to write an article about, say, recent advances in origin of life research, which then might be deemed unsuitable.
Nor do I consider it helpful to the skeptics’ case to be associated with the creationists who would be driven out of the woodwork here by such a post. Their comments here just confirm the CACA charge that skeptics about consensus “climate science” are also against the sciences of biology, geology, physics, chemistry, astronomy, meteorology, etc, all of which are irreconcilably contrary to the Bible, which also irreconcilably contradicts itself.

Reply to  Chimp
May 8, 2017 5:50 pm

Chimp, let me argue the contrary despite my fully understanding your reluctance from personal experience. Truth will out. period. I previously took on Roy Spencer re ID despite defending him on his UAH measurements. The world is a complicted place. You apparently have much to offer. Please do so

Chimp
Reply to  Chimp
May 8, 2017 6:10 pm

Thanks for your kind words.
I feel I am making contributions already, but will consider submitting something for our host’s consideration.

BallBounces
May 8, 2017 2:00 pm

Skim… ““More testing is now needed”… Stop. Elapsed time. 5 seconds.

jon
May 8, 2017 2:34 pm

Academia has its problems but bureaucracy outright lies. The EPA still proclaims CO2 is 82% of greenhouse gases at https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/overview-greenhouse-gases

Tom in Florida
May 8, 2017 3:05 pm

Well, they did a bang up job identifying the “need” for more money. Not the customary one or two lines but ….
“More testing is now needed, and it is highly possible that we will see similar effects in other ectotherms (cold-blooded animals such as reptiles and amphibians which depend on external sources of body heat).”
“Given the importance of bacteria to digestion, it is crucial that more research is now carried out to investigate this overlooked effect of climate change.”
“Climate change is now considered as the greatest threat to biodiversity and ecological networks, but Dr Bestion said its impacts on the bacteria associated with plants and animals remain largely unknown.”
“We are only now starting to understand the importance of gut microbiota in the physiology of all species, including humans,” she said.
“These bacteria are linked to everything from digestion to immunity and obesity.
“The gut is the latest health craze in humans – with everything from probiotic yoghurts to faecal transplants being marketed – but almost no studies have been done on how the changing climate will affect these microbes.”

Reply to  Tom in Florida
May 8, 2017 3:15 pm

T in F (like me at the moment) eat less and exercise more is an amazingly good alternative to the gut flora excuse for obesity. In fact, I think that if you also ate less carbs and more fruits/vegetables/meats, your gut flora would slowly change even without the exercise component. Because exercise has nothing to do with gut flora. Flora~calories ingested. Exercise~calories expended. Weight gain/loss~Delta energy in/out. Plus/minus. Not complicated at a high level.

Chimp
Reply to  ristvan
May 8, 2017 3:18 pm

“Eat little, move a lot” has worked for me. So far.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  ristvan
May 9, 2017 4:35 am

I hope you don’t think I was agreeing with them. I was just quoting the “we need more money” requests. As an aside, many years ago I worked for a company that had a AAA personality boss who wanted to lose some weight. So he put out a challenge to all employees that he would pay $500 cash to the person who could lose the highest percent of body weight in 90 days (himself included). I won the contest losing 36 pounds. I did it on a pasta diet where I would have a Slim Fast and banana for breakfast, a bowl of vegetable soup for lunch, an apple for an afternoon snack and for dinner a big bowl of pasta with marinara along with some bread and butter and milk. Dinner was as much as I cared to eat to be satisfied. I also worked my way up to a 4 mile circuit morning where I would walk the first mile, jog the next two and walk the last mile. About a week later I ran into an old friend who has lost about 30 pounds recently. We discussed the methods, he went on an Atkins diet and he ran everyday. So he was on a low carb, high fat, medium protein diet and I was on a high carb, low fat, medium protein diet. We both lost about the same amount of weight. The common denominator with us both was the road work. For sheer weight loss it is all about calories in and calories out.

May 8, 2017 3:45 pm

A tip to those here who really want to dig into the science. Papers may be paywalled, but their SI usually are not. Go there first to figure out whether the Nature paper sans abstract is worth paying $32 for (my choice). NOT in this case. That is how I dug out the equivalent sudden SLR BS in Oleary, Nature Geoscience (2013), essay By Land or by Sea, the BS on coral acidification by Fabricius in Nature Climate Change, essay Shell Games, and Marcott’s academic misconduct hockey stick in Science (2013), all revealed in ebook Blowing Smoke. It gets easy with some practice. Unraveling this junk science took an hour, mostly learning about lizards. Writing it up less than perfect took 30 minutes. Time well spent as AW elevated the comment. Regards to all here.

Jamie
May 8, 2017 4:22 pm

I want to know who paid for this….was it my tax dollar?…this seems like the most useless study I can imagine….effects of warming on gut bacteria in lizards.,..geesh

Graemethecat
May 8, 2017 5:19 pm

Climate “Science” is corrupting the entire scientific enterprise. What could have been a genuinely useful and substantive investigation into lizard gut flora was turned into dross by the need to shoehorn in the climate change dogma.

Chimp
Reply to  Graemethecat
May 8, 2017 5:34 pm

Yes! Just think of the commercial applications. Ne, improved, probiotic Purina Lizard Chow!

The Original Mike M
Reply to  Chimp
May 9, 2017 9:08 am

I’m left wondering if my Pavlovian response to your comment has anything to do with my older sister feeding me dog biscuits when I was a little tyke?

jclarke341
May 8, 2017 8:12 pm

I haven’t read all of the comments, so someone has probably pointed this out already. But here goes: CLIMATE CHANGE OF 2 TO 3 DEGREES IS SUPPOSED TO TAKE 100 YEARS! Instantly making it 2 to 3 degrees warmer for individual animals is completely different from a gradual warming over 100 years for an entire species. There is this little thing called adaptation that is key to the untouchable theory of evolution. Climate change science concerning species continuously denies the power of adaptation, and in the process, denies the theory of evolution!
Talk about anti-science!

The Original Mike M
Reply to  jclarke341
May 9, 2017 8:56 am

Good point! Though I doubt evolution could be any factor in one generation, there are likely to be many variations of possible genetic expressions “learned” from past evolutionary successes along the line that could be influenced by and optimized for specific environmental conditions present during gestation and newborn life. E.G. Is lizard gut bacteria possibly a dimorphic factor whereby whatever mommy lizard is eating at the time she becomes pregnant influences her offspring to favor the same?
As you stated, in real life it would take many generations of lizards to experience an increase of over 2 degrees and in that time they could either move to a higher altitude or revert to eating alternative sources of food present at a warmer time for the ancestors. Plopping some lizards into a hot box doesn’t even qualify for a middle school science fair project IMO.
It’s a real shame to think that more important studies done by serious scientists in other fields are being sidelined for this kind of slipshod CAGW oriented nonsense.

catweazle666
May 9, 2017 6:23 am

Curiously, on my travels in foreign parts I have noticed that the warmer the climate the larger and more numerous the lizards, and there is nothing they like more than basking in the Sun, the hotter the better, roads are a particular favourite basking spot – much to the delight of the various scavengers.
I have observed lizards basking on rocks that were too hot to put my hand on.
I call BS.

The Original Mike M
May 10, 2017 7:47 am

I decided to do my own research and was astonished to find that lizards are indeed susceptible to elevated temperature.
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