Dialing back the 10 foot hype – NOAA Tide Gauge Data shows no coastal sea level rise acceleration

… meanwhile California sea level rise “model study” claims 10 foot rise by 2100

Guest essay by Larry Hamlin

NOAA has just updated its coastal sea level rise tide gauge data including actual measurements through year 2016 which continues to show no evidence of coastal sea level rise acceleration.

These measurements include tide gauge data coastal locations for 25 West Coast, Gulf Coast and East Coast states along the Pacific Ocean, Gulf of Mexico and Atlantic Ocean, 7 Pacific island groups and 6 Atlantic island groups comprising more than 200 measurement stations.

The longest NOAA tide gauge data coastal sea level rise measurement record is at The Battery in New York with its 160 year long data record showing a steady rate of sea level rise of about 11 inches per century.

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NOAA data provides assessments of the 95% confidence intervals at all measured locations which demonstrate the consistent behavior of location specific sea level rise over time and as well as showing that longer interval measurement periods provide tight ranges for the 95% confidence interval.

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The 2016 updated NOAA tide gauge data includes four long time period (between 92 and 119 years) coastal locations for California at San Diego, La Jolla, Los Angeles and San Francisco. The actual measured and steady coastal rates of sea level rise at these locations vary between about 4 to 9 inches per century.

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The UN IPCC AR5 WG1 report concludes in the Summary for Policymakers Chapter that:

“It is very likely that there is a substantial anthropogenic contribution to the global mean sea level rise since the 1970s. This is based on the high confidence in an anthropogenic influence on the two largest contributions to sea level rise, that is thermal expansion and glacier mass loss. {10.4, 10.5, 13.3}”

NOAA tide gauge coastal sea level rise data measurements encompassing the 46 year period from 1970 through 2016 do not support and in fact clearly contradict the UN IPCC AR5 WG1 conclusion regarding supposed man made contributions to increasing rates of sea level rise since the early 1970s.

Meanwhile here in California, the climate alarmist capital of the U.S.,  the Working Group of the Ocean Protection Council Science Advisory Team, supported and convened by California Ocean Science Trust have just released a new report Rising Seas in California, An Update on Sea–Level Rise Science which is intended to provide statewide sea-level rise policy guidance.

The report has been widely hyped by climate alarmist main stream media  http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/04/30/oceans-rising-faster-than-scientific-forecasts/  based on the highly speculative and scientifically unsupported claim that sea levels at the states coastline could rise by 10 feet by the end of the century.

The new state report is based on projections derived from semi-empirical climate models which supposedly provide probabilistic assessments of coastal sea level rise for California locations.

The UN IPCC AR5 WG1 report dealt extensively with the many problems and shortcomings of sea level rise semi-empirical climate models (SEM’s) and provided a litany of significant and complex unresolved scientific issues.

Provided below are IPCC identified issues with SEMs as noted in various chapters of the AR5 WG1 report.

Summary for PolicyMakers Chapter:

“The basis for higher projections of global mean sea level rise in the 21st century has been considered and it has been concluded that there is currently insufficient evidence to evaluate the probability of specific levels above the assessed likely range. Many semi-empirical model projections of global mean sea level rise are higher than process-based model projections (up to about twice as large), but there is no consensus in the scientific community about their reliability and there is thus low confidence in their projections. {13.5}”

Technical Summary Chapter:

“Semi-empirical models are designed to reproduce the observed sea level record over their period of calibration, but do not attribute sea level rise to its individual physical components. For RCPs, some semi- empirical models project a range that overlaps the process-based likely range while others project a median and 95-percentile that are about twice as large as the process-based models. In nearly every case, the semi-empirical model 95th percentile is higher than the process-based likely range. For 2081–2100 (relative to 1986–2005) under RCP4.5, semi-empirical models give median projections in the range 0.56 to 0.97 m, and their 95th percentiles extend to about 1.2 m. This difference implies either that there is some contribution which is presently unidentified or underestimated by process-based models, or that the projections of semi-empirical models are overestimates.”

“Making projections with a semi-empirical model assumes that sea level change in the future will have the same relationship as it has had in the past to RF or global mean temperature change. This may not hold if potentially nonlinear physical processes do not scale in the future in ways which can be calibrated from the past. There is no consensus in the scientific community about the reliability of semi-empirical model projections, and confidence in them is assessed to be low. {13.5.2, 13.5.3}”

“There is low confidence in semi-empirical model projections of global mean sea level rise, and no consensus in the scientific community about their reliability. {13.5.2, 13.5.3}”

Sea Level Change Chapter 13: 

“Some semi-empirical models project a range that overlaps the process-based likely range while others project a median and 95th percentile that are about twice as large as the process- based models. In nearly every case, the semi-empirical model 95th percentile is higher than the process-based likely range.”

Despite the successful calibration and evaluation of semi-empirical models against the observed 20th century sea level record, there is no consensus in the scientific community about their reliability, and consequently low confidence in projections based on them. {13.5.2, 13.5.3, Figure 13.12}”

“Semi-empirical models (SEMs) project sea level based on statistical relationships between observed GMSL and global mean temperature (Rahmstorf, 2007a; Vermeer and Rahmstorf, 2009; Grinsted et al., 2010) or total RF (Jevrejeva et al., 2009, 2010). The form of this relationship is motivated by physical considerations, and the parameters are determined from observational data—hence the term ‘semi-empirical’ (Rahmstorf et al., 2012b).”

“SEMs do not explicitly simulate the underlying processes, and they use a characteristic response time that could be considerably longer than the time scale of interest (Rahmstorf, 2007a) or one that is explicitly determined by the model (Grinsted et al., 2010).”

“The semi-empirical approach regards a change in sea level as an integrated response of the entire climate system, reflecting changes in the dynamics and thermodynamics of the atmosphere, ocean and cryosphere; it does not explicitly attribute sea level rise to its individual physical components. SEMs use simple physically motivated relationships, with various analytical formulations and parameters determined from observational time series, to predict GMSL for the 21st century (Figure 13.12 and Table 13.6) and beyond, from either global mean SAT (Rahmstorf, 2007a; Horton et al., 2008; Vermeer and Rahmstorf, 2009; Grinsted et al., 2010; Rahmstorf et al., 2012b) or RF (Jevrejeva et al., 2009; 2010, 2012a).”

“The GMSL estimates used for calibrating the SEMs are based on the existing sparse network of long tide-gauge records, and are thus uncertain, especially before the late 19th century; these uncertainties are reflected in the observational estimates of the rate of GMSL rise (Sections 3.7 and 13.2.2).”

“Consequently, the projections may be sensitive to the statistical treatment of the temporal variability in the instrumental record of sea level change (Holgate et al., 2007; Rahmstorf, 2007b; Schmith et al., 2007). Rahmstorf et al. (2012b) reported that GMSL projections for the RCP4.5 scenario for 2100 (Table 13.6) varied by ±0.04 m when the embedding dimension used for temporal smoothing during the calibration was varied within a range of 0 to 25 years.”

“SEM projections will be biased unless contributions to past GMSL rise which correlate with but are not physically related to contemporary changes in the predictor variable (either global mean SAT change or RF) are subtracted from the observational sea level record before the cali- bration (Vermeer and Rahmstorf, 2009; Jevrejeva et al., 2012b; Rahm- storf et al., 2012b; Orlić and Pasarić, 2013).

“These include groundwater depletion due to anthropogenic intervention and storage of water by dams (Section 13.3.4), ongoing adjustment of the Greenland and Ant- arctic ice sheets to climate change in previous centuries and millen- nia (Section 13.3.6), and the effects of internally generated regional climate variability on glaciers (Marzeion et al., 2012a; Church et al., 2013, Sections 13.3.2.2 and 13.3.6) and ice sheets (Section 13.3.3.2). For instance, Jevrejeva et al. (2012b) found that their median projections for 2100 were reduced by 0.02 to 0.10 m by excluding some such contributions.”

“Making projections with a SEM assumes that sea level change in the future will have the same relationship as it has had in the past to RF or global mean temperature change. The appropriate choice for the formulation of the SEM may depend on the nature of the climate forcing and the time scale, and potentially nonlinear physical processes may not scale in the future in ways which can be calibrated from the past (von Storch et al., 2008; Vermeer and Rahmstorf, 2009; Rahmstorf et al., 2012b; Orlić and Pasarić, 2013). Two such effects that could lead to overestimated or underestimated projections by SEMs have been discussed in the literature.”

“The higher estimates from the SEMs than the process-based models used here for the long-term projections are consistent with the relation between the two modelling approaches for the 21st century (Figure 13.12).”

“Section 13.5.3 concluded that the limited or medium evidence supporting SEMs, and the low agreement about their reliability, provides low confidence in their projections for the 21st century. We note here that the confidence in the ability of SEMs is further reduced with the length of the extrapolation period and the deviation of the future forcing from the forcing of the learning period (Schaeffer et al., 2012), thus decreasing confidence over the long time frames considered here.”

The California main stream media climate alarmist articles about the new sea level rise study projections ignored these many thorny issues.

The new state sea level rise report contains many significant qualifications and uncertainties that are addressed but none of which are revealed by California main stream media alarmist articles.

Regarding the headline grabbing 10 foot sea level rise claim which is based on accelerated Antarctica ice melt the report notes the following:

“These projections may underestimate the likelihood of extreme sea-level rise, particularly under high emissions scenarios, so this report also includes an extreme scenario called the H++ scenario.”

“The probability of this scenario is currently unknown, but its consideration is important, particularly for high-stakes, long-term decisions.”

“Before 2050, differences in sea-level rise projections under different emissions scenarios are minor but they diverge significantly past mid- century. After 2050, sea-level rise projections increasingly depend on the trajectory of greenhouse gas emissions. For example, under the extreme H++ scenario rapid ice sheet loss on Antarctica could drive rates of sea-level rise in California above 50 mm/year (2 inches/year) by the end of the century, leading to potential sea-level rise exceeding 10 feet. This rate of sea-level rise would be about 30-40 times faster than the sea-level rise experienced over the last century.”

“As described above (Section 3.1.1), these projections may underestimate the probability of extreme Antarctic ice loss, an outcome that is highly uncertain but, given recent observations and model results, cannot be ignored.”

“Accordingly, we have also included an extreme sea-level rise scenario, which we call the H++ scenario. This is an unknown probability, high consequence scenario such as would occur if high rates of Antarctic ice loss were to develop in the last half of this century. When decisions involve consequential infrastructure, facilities or assets, we advise that extra consideration be given to this upper end of potential sea-level rise outcomes”

“The obvious question is: how confident can we be in the recent model projections? First, it should be emphasized that the model ensembles (Figure 10) hinge on the performance of a single ice-sheet model and a single climate model. Furthermore, the ensembles do not explore the full range of parameters in the ice sheet model.Thus, the ensembles do not provide a true probabilistic assessment of Antarctica’s possible future.”

“While much progress observing and modeling the ice sheet has been made in recent years, the precise magnitude and timing when Antarctic might begin to contribute substantial sea level should still be considered deeply uncertain.”

“Regardless of uncertainty in model physics, one of the greatest sources of uncertainty lies in which future greenhouse gas scenario will be followed; so even if the physical model were perfect in its representation of the natural world, there would still be major uncertainty in the Antarctic ice sheet’s future.”

The alarmist claims of 10 foot California sea level rise by the end of the century suggested by this report and highlighted by the media have no established scientific basis and represent nothing but conjecture and speculation.

Regarding the reports projections in general the following significant uncertainties are addressed:

“For projections over the next few decades, we do not expect the role of models and scenarios to be as crucial to pin down. However, as we move into the more distant future, our ability to guess what society will do diminishes, different models will be more or less dependable, and the processes generating our extreme scenario will unfold.”

“As a result, our ability to quantify uncertainty through formal probability distributions decreases. We therefore include a qualitatively different scenario (H++) whose likelihood we cannot characterize at this time, and note that quantified probabilistic projections need to be taken as an evolving representation of our understanding, open to updates and modifications especially in the tails of probability distributions. In this context of likely continued and unquantifiable uncertainties, incorporating long-range planning for sea-level rise in decisions is increasingly urgent.”

“Depending on the time horizon being considered, different sources of uncertainty play smaller or larger roles in projections of sea-level rise [48]. For long-term changes (second half of this century and beyond), the choice of model and scenario of anthropogenic greenhouse gas emissions significantly affect the outcome. By comparison, for short- to mid-term projections (within the next two or three decades), variability in the Earth’s climate system, which would exist even in the absence of human-driven changes, is the predominant source of uncertainty.”

“As for climate system drivers at large (e.g., ENSO, storms), the question boils down to assessing possible future changes and their statistical characteristics. At the moment, uncertainties in modeling outcomes are large and there is not robust evidence that the internal variability of these phenomena will change significantly under future scenarios [52]. As mentioned, the interplay of these different sources of uncertainty is not unique as we move from short- to mid- to long-term horizons for our projections.”

“Estimated probabilities of particular outcomes are increasingly less robust — in the sense of comprehensively covering the range of expected outcomes and firmly quantifying their relative probability — as we lengthen those horizons, and we move into climate scenarios of unprecedented nature as far as anthropogenic forcing is concerned”

The states new sea level rise report may be intended to provide California coastal sea level rise policy guidance but the very significant qualifications, limitations and uncertainties reflected in the report but unaddressed by the climate alarmist media clearly demands that planning efforts utilizing the reports projections must be done with great caution.

This is particularly true given the extensive NOAA coastal sea level tide gauge data for California locations showing no evidence of coastal sea level rise acceleration despite the claims of the UN IPCC that man made actions have been increasing the rate of sea level rise since the early 1970s.

[UPDATE] As these things happen, I’d written about this sea level question and was about to post it, but Larry has done it first, and likely better. I trust he won’t mind my adding one graphic from my now superceded post showing what the sea level would have to do to get to a ten foot rise by the year 2100 …sea level rise alarm sf 2100

And from my now unnecessary post …

How can any rational human being believe this kind of nonsense? The CO2 has been rising strongly since about 1940 or so … but in that 75 year period, the rate of sea level rise is basically unchanged. If CO2 were going to do something to sea level rise, it would have happened long ago.

I weep for the death of science … of course, this claim will be used to force people to do all kinds of crazy things if they want to build near the coast.

My best to all, and my thanks to Larry for an excellent exposition.

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rogerthesurf
May 2, 2017 9:01 pm

There will be a sudden increase in water levels like in this video.

Must happen else the predictions will be proven incorrect!!!
Cheers
Roger
http:/www.thedemiseofchristchurch.com

Steve
Reply to  rogerthesurf
May 3, 2017 1:26 am

But in Florida there science denier govenor has given the go ahead to increase the hight of roads because the old roads were flooding on a regular basis making it impossible for cars. Google it, it’s shows how rising sea levels are causing havoc.

rogerthesurf
Reply to  Steve
May 3, 2017 3:35 am

Maybe the land is sinking in Florida.
http://www.geodesy.miami.edu/FloridaSinkholes/index.html
See how well placed the UN building is in order to cope with rising water/sinking land.
https://thedemiseofchristchurch.com/2016/05/06/un-headquarters-and-usd1-2-billion-upgrade-and-rising/?iframe=true&theme_preview=true
Cheers
Roger

Richard
Reply to  Steve
May 3, 2017 5:19 am

“Science”. You keep using that word, but I don’t think you know what it really means.

MarkW
Reply to  Steve
May 3, 2017 6:26 am

The oceans have risen about 1/2 an inch since those roads were built Steve. Trying checking in with reality before posting.

Ben of Houston
Reply to  Steve
May 3, 2017 6:35 am

Steve, that’s not due to rising sea levels. It’s gross mismanagement of your groundwater causing large scale subsidence throughout the state. You are literally sinking because you’ve drawn so much water out of the ground that the state is settling down.
This is why Texas created the Subsidence Districts in a number of counties (including my own home of Harris County) to manage water wells. We stopped overdrawing groundwater, so we stopped sinking into the Gulf.
9 times out of 10, when someone blames a local problem on global warming, it’s a mask for incompetence or negligence of people who really should know better.

Greg61
Reply to  Steve
May 3, 2017 7:06 am

‘their’ ‘governor’ is replacing roads that were built below sea level to begin with, and yes the land has been sinking there for centuries

Rhoda R
Reply to  Steve
May 3, 2017 11:41 am

It’s well known that the Floridian aquifer is being hit hard for water and that the land is subsiding as a result. Probably also causing all the sudden sink holes as well.

Richard G.
Reply to  Steve
May 3, 2017 1:12 pm

Some quick documentation of coastal land subsidence courtesy of the U.S. Government doing actual science:
https://www.ngs.noaa.gov/heightmod/NOAANOSNGSTR50.pdf
” The analysis was accomplished using first-order leveling data and GPS observations from the National Geodetic Survey (NGS) and water level (tide gauge) data from the National Ocean Service.
This study computed vertical velocities for over 2700 NGS benchmarks based on leveling data collected between 1920 and 1995. Subsidence affects coastal areas of Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas, and Alabama. The highest rates, over 25 mm per year, occur in the Mississippi river delta region and chenier plain of southwest Louisiana.”…
…”We draw two primary conclusions from this study. First, subsidence is occurring at substantially higher rates than previously reported. These new rates provide insights into the causes of subsidence and should be integrated into plans to mitigate the effects of subsidence and the resultant inundation of coastal lands.”

Richard G.
Reply to  Steve
May 3, 2017 1:19 pm

By the way, coastal subsidence from groundwater and oil extraction IS a problem for those people who live there. Just make sure your attribution is to the correct cause.
Species Homo sapiens, mostly sap.

Javert Chip
May 2, 2017 9:30 pm

If “moon-beam” Jerry Brown wasn’t convincing 37,000,000 California tax-payers to jump off the “10 foot sea rise by 2100” cliff, this would be funny.
What are our great-grandkids going to think about us when they read this as history in 50 years?

Reply to  Javert Chip
May 3, 2017 9:08 am

Have the Dutch been complaining ?About half of Holland is below sea level !

Reply to  Javert Chip
May 3, 2017 10:19 am

“What are our great-grandkids going to think about us when they read this as history in 50 years?”
Hopefully, they’ll learn the lesson that confirmation bias and group think driven by a political narrative is no way to ‘settle’ science for the purpose of justifying demonstrably harmful and otherwise unsupportable policies.
Unfortunately, we’ve been paying the price for this insanity which won’t change until either the main stream media or the political left supporting the otherwise unsupportable policies learns this lesson. If the MSM catches on first, the political left is doomed, so if those scientists on the left (and you know who you are) want to keep their party relevant, they better accept the scientific method as the only arbiter of what is and what is not science, learn the lesson and gracefully direct their political party away from the insanity.

Steve S
May 2, 2017 9:52 pm

With regards to the 160 year Battery Park record showing a sea level rise of 11 inches per century, how does one distinguish between sea level rise and land subsidence?

Reply to  Steve S
May 3, 2017 12:13 am

The reason why the California Santa Monica coast has mountains 2000 ft tall is that block of land used to be sea floor in San Diego, drifted north and rotated 90 degree clockwise, then uplifted substantially as it slammed into the coast. In Miocene, Bakersfield and much of the Southern CA Coast Range was sea floor. Pretty much everything west of the San Andreas is Miocene sea floor from the Baja border to San Francisco. The Coast Range is a near shore island arc system, historically with the continent to the east at the Sierra Nevada Mtns. The history of Southern California is a history of tectonics and emergence of the land out of the sea. A very tiny interval may show some sea level rise, but the 15 million year history is the opposite. Some fault lurches on the San Andreas cause 10 ft rises in one instant in time. In recent earthquakes, some mountains have risen 3 feet such as in the Sylmar earthquake. I think that was 1969. There are no less than 13 sea level cut benches in the Palos Verdes hills in SW Los Angeles as it emerged from the sea several hundred feet in the Eocene. To say that the long term trend is massive sea level rise or subsidence on the CA coast is just patently absurd. There could be current subsidence from coast groundwater pumping.

ron long
Reply to  Donald Kasper
May 3, 2017 2:51 am

Right you are Kasper, both here and just below. The west coast of the entire Americas is a mixture of thermal expansion associated with subduction and magmatism/volcanism and transform/transcurrent faulting. The entire western margin of the Americas is in the additive mode due to the subduction episodes. And for sure thermal expansion of the land exceeds thermal expansion of the seawater. However, Ktm’s comment about “the linear march upward captures all the geological phenomena” is interesting and suggests siting issues with tide gauges, which is to say that the place where people live is in delta fill, with compaction issues, and near sea level, not in the middle of nowhere where there are always cliffs against the sea.

Richard G.
Reply to  Donald Kasper
May 3, 2017 1:41 pm

This link has a map of subsidence in California. Mostly in San Joaquin valley (not coastal)(attributed to ground water extraction). Coastal population centers affected by oil and water extraction related subsidence: Santa Clara valley, Oxnard, and Long Beach-Santa Anna basins.
https://ca.water.usgs.gov/land_subsidence/california-subsidence-areas.html

Ktm
Reply to  Steve S
May 3, 2017 1:08 am

The linear march upward captures all the geological phenomena. The rapid acceleration since ~1950 due to CO2 is the anthropogenic sea level rise you’re looking for.
If you can’t see the rapid acceleration since ~1950, try squinting your eyes or going cross eyed and try again.

Paul Penrose
Reply to  Ktm
May 3, 2017 4:17 am

Looking at the entire history, I see all kinds of high frequency spikes in the tide gauge data. But the long term trend is quite clear, and there is no change in the recent data; acceleration or otherwise. If you are seeing “something” in the noise, that’s just wishful thinking. No different than seeing faces or animal shapes in the clouds. No rigorous mathematical analysis will show any meaningful change in the long term trend.

Auto
Reply to  Ktm
May 3, 2017 1:21 pm

Ktm
“If you can’t see the rapid acceleration since ~1950, try squinting your eyes or going cross eyed and try again.”
Try
“If you can’t see the rapid acceleration since ~1950, try squinting your eyes or going cross eyed or putting your hand out for some tax-payers’ dollars, and try again.”
Fixed it for you. No fee!
I trust Paul P notes this.
Auto
Mods – possibly /sarc, or not, also.
Maybe a different viewing of the same reality; does that sound homely?

DHR
Reply to  Steve S
May 3, 2017 5:17 am

Some tide gauges are accompanied by a GPS elevation gauge although the GPS gauges are of course quiet new. Battery Park has a GPS gauge and it has operated only for the last 7 years. It shows a land subsidence of about 2 mm/yr. Thus the actual sea level at Battery Park has been rising at about 1 mm/yr, at least in recent years. The British web site PSMSL.org provides tide gauge records for hundreds, or is it thousands of gauges, I haven’t counted. For some of them, they also show GPS elevation gauges to be found at the “other information” button allowing you to do your own corrections. You can even check Pacific island sites, Miami, and Norfolk Virginia to see whether actual data supports or does not support claims of overwhelming AGW-induced sea level rise. Your findings might surprise you.
There are other ways to measure long-term sea level changes. In “A Search for Scale in Sea-Level Studies,” Journal of Coastal Research, July, 2006, Larson et al. reviewed available studies of long term sea level rise using data from coastal marshes at various sites and concluded that global sea level has been rising at a rate of about 2 mm/yr or less at least for the past 6,000 years.
Hope this helps.

Hell_Is_Like_Newark
Reply to  Steve S
May 3, 2017 9:59 am

There is estimated land rise / fall taken from the GPS system. I can’t find a link to it at the moment. Generally if you take in account the GPS data, sea level rise fall between 1.7 to 2.3 mm per year (at least when I ran the numbers). There was talk of launching satellites that would be more accurate in calculating the data, but Congress never funded it.
BTW: I have read estimates of up to 0.8 mm year of the sea level rise is due to ground water extraction.

D B H
May 2, 2017 9:53 pm

Hi Roger,
I like you live in ChCh – with me being some 33m above sea level.
Safe at that distance above current sea level, but seeing that video with the 20m rise from the pressure of the tsunami, makes me a little less ‘comfortable’.
Not however, uncomfortable from the 1.7mm per year rise we get here.

rogerthesurf
Reply to  D B H
May 3, 2017 11:13 pm

Hi DBH,
Nice to hear from you.
A while back as you may be aware, the Christchurch City Council tried to put some sort of warning on the title of 1800 properties in our city on the pretext that there were inundation dangers.
There was a bit of an uproar from these owners and I attended one of their meetings. Unfortunately it was decided there that it was a “legal” issue and this resulted in some withdrawal from the council.
I got thrown off face book because of my factual arguments saying this was all a result of the belief in a non-existant global warming and the sea level rise had not accelerated yet – etc.
This is what I put on my blog a little later:-
https://thedemiseofchristchurch.com/2016/05/06/six-reasons-why-you-should-worry-about-climate-change/?iframe=true&theme_preview=true
As far as I can tell the council have gone quiet but are p;robably simply biding their time on this one. Have you heard anything?
Cheers
Roger
http://www.thedemiseofchristchurch.com

Tom Halla
May 2, 2017 9:59 pm

I love the acronym SEM for semi-empirical model. Definitely semi. it does look like the acronym POOMA better fits their intentions in using SEM sea level rise figures.

bezotch
Reply to  Tom Halla
May 3, 2017 12:55 pm

I read it more like a chocolate bar wrapper. “Warning: May contain trace amounts of facts and/or data”,
as opposed to the non-empirical model projections that require no such warning.

tomwys1
May 2, 2017 10:20 pm

The new California report is simply authored by those known to be on the public climate gravy train, and in large part is pathetically inaccurate.
Pretty pictures, however!

Reply to  tomwys1
May 3, 2017 12:21 am

The California coast for 15 million years is a history of strong coastal emergence from the sea. Everything West of the Pope Valley fault defining the West side of the San Joaquin in Northern CA, for example, is called an offshore island arc system. Snowy Mtn that dominates the area is called a shield volcano that formed offshore. That is how all that volcanics formed. The coast used to be the Sierra Mtns 100 miles east. The entire state San Joaquin Valley used to be called ocean. The entire Coast Range is a recent phenomena that did not exist until plate tectonics formed an offshore volcanic island chain that cut the San Joaquin off from the sea. Converting that into sea level rise is called Stupidville. It represents Pagan earth worship, not geologic science.

Nick Stokes
May 2, 2017 10:27 pm

The URL for the California report seems mangled – I found it here.

Don K
Reply to  Nick Stokes
May 3, 2017 7:14 am

Thanks Nick
I’ve only had time to glance through the report. Color me unimpressed. They do have enough sense to recognize that one of their three tidal gauges (Crescent City) is on the upper side of the Cascadia subduction zone and shows no current sea level rise, but will probably be subject to a near instantaneous 1-2 meter downward adjustment — maybe this century. Maybe next. Maybe the century after that. But they still lump all three gauges together. The other two gauges are near active or probably active faults BTW (The San Andreas and the Rose Canyon)
Anyway, they apparently have developed a “semi-empirical model” which combines actual data with what look like Wild Ass Guesses to paint a picture that is presented as “science”.
They seem to have missed an opportunity to warn that, based on current notions of geology, Eureka, Crescent City, and some smaller towns on the thinly populated coast between Cape Mendocino and the Oregon border face a very concrete threat of a whopping great earthquake with a substantial sea level change followed by possible tsunami. It’d probably be a good idea to prepare for that eventuality
Other than that. It is fortunate that most of the California coast is pretty steep. However, in the unlikely event that they are right, downtown San Diego and the huge San Diego Naval Base complex might be in a bit of trouble. along with quite a lot of very expensive beach front property in places to the North.

Curious George
Reply to  Don K
May 3, 2017 8:01 am

They do whatever they are paid to do. It is called “job security”.

JohnKnight
May 2, 2017 10:38 pm

“… the very significant qualifications, limitations and uncertainties reflected in the report but unaddressed by the climate alarmist media …”
Which will surely lead many report contributors to very publicly demand apologies, retractions and corrections from the mass media . . ; )

May 2, 2017 10:41 pm

“our ability to guess what society will do diminishes” says all you need to know.

michael hart
Reply to  Phillip Bratby
May 3, 2017 7:59 am

It’s kinda ironic, given that the origin of these reports lies with those who have an explicit desire to control what society does both now, and in the future.

Mary Brown
May 2, 2017 10:44 pm

The question I like to ask is this….
“How much lower would sea level be if humans had never walked the earth? Please quantify your answer”
I generally answer 2 inches. The rate of rise has been remarkably constant in various CO2 forcing regimes. However, I think with groundwater release and thermal expansion and some satellite data acceleration claims, I’m willing to agree to 2″ of human contribution.
I don’t know how you could support and answer outside the range of 0 to 4″. But, I’m all ears.

Reply to  Mary Brown
May 3, 2017 12:30 am

The consistent rise of the land over the sea in all of Coastal California has been going for for at least 15 million years. Using Bakersfield, CA elevation as a rough estimate, since it used to be under a Miocene ocean, its elevation is now 400 feet above sea level. Before the Ice Age ended, and sea level rose 400 feet, it would otherwise be 800 feet above sea level. Over that time scale, the few mm interval rise between tectonic events would be unmeasurable. Note these models are climate models, not geologic models. So they are using climate to tell us what one of the major crustal plate boundaries in the world are doing as the Pacific and North American plate grind past each other in Central and Southern CA, and the Pacific plate subducts under the NAmerican plate for WA, OR, and Northern CA. Of course the southern section used to be a subduction system, then it switched.

May 3, 2017 12:13 am

That’s heavy –
– ’til 4 weeks ‘never ending catastrophic Californian drought’
– passing: Oroville dam spillway crisis
– to: meanwhile California sea level rise “model study” claims 10 foot rise by 2100
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Outrageous Impertinent journalism:
Why remember my stupid drivel from yesterday !

Ktm
May 3, 2017 12:27 am

Didn’t they tell us all the extra heat hid in the deep ocean during the pause?
If it did, it certainly didn’t do much thermal expansion down there.
Alarmists have been staggeringly wrong about catastrophic sea level rise for more than 50 years now. In the Nixon white house archives,
Daniel Patrick Moynihan cites 10 feet of sea level rise by the year 2000, which came from a 1965 expert report that is available online in pdf form.
The report is interesting in that they clearly cite 10 feet of sea level rise by the year 2000, then dutifully include typical statements of uncertainty to give themselves deniability. But then they go on to talk about the effects of a meltdown of Greenland and Antarctica leading to another 200 feet of sea level rise over the subsequent 200 years. This projection does not include any hint of uncertainty.
So by my count, the best alarmist experts of the time, who knew the laboratory greenhouse effect of co2 to very high precision, and had calculated it with computers, missed their prediction by 10 feet by the year 2000, plus another 17 feet at the rate of 1 foot per year over the next 200 years.
2 – 5 inches? 27 feet? Who’s counting?

Reply to  Ktm
May 3, 2017 5:08 am

1965? I didn’t realize CAGW alarmism went back that far. Do you have a link?
/Mr Lynn

Hugs
Reply to  L. E. Joiner
May 3, 2017 8:24 am

You can find a link here: http://motls.blogspot.fi/2010/07/nixon-was-told-sea-level-would-rise-by.html
Key points are
– There were global cooling and warming alarmists in 1969
– GHE was explained ‘simply’ as what happens in a greenhouse, which is very very bad comparison
– The alarmists did predictions that were badly off
– They added ‘mights’, ‘coulds’, ‘suggests’es’ etc so that you can’t say they were wrong as such, but heroically the first people to warn on the coming apocalypse.
– Well, they were wrong, of course

Ktm
Reply to  L. E. Joiner
May 3, 2017 8:29 am

Google Restoring the Quality of Our Environment 1965.
I did misremember one detail, they talked about 400 feet of sea level rise over 400 years, not 200 feet over 200 years.
Their projections of atmospheric CO2 were actually less that what occurred, and as i said they knew the lab CO2 greenhouse effect to extreme precision.

Reply to  Ktm
May 3, 2017 11:13 am

I was going to post on the thermal expansion of the oceans. So where is all that heat going if it’s not into the oceans? Thermal expansion is a definite thing. It is not a could or maybe. After at least 20 years, no SLR or very minimal, How does C/AGW explain where the heat is hiding now? Maybe the warmist can explain to me, I’m sure they have, how the heat gets recycled in shorter el nino periods, but without SLR. Do I feel another record adjustment coming up?
I remember something about that report. It was so fantastical that it was laughable. There were so many of those dooms day prognostications, no one took them seriously.

May 3, 2017 12:27 am

No one told them
– we passed 6 years El Niño
– the new regime is La Niña
– unpredictable April is followed by
– May, spell that ‘S P R I N G’ !

Bill J
May 3, 2017 12:42 am

Considering the current rate of rise it would probably have to hit 3 or 4 inches per year by 2090 to come close to increasing 10 feet by 2100. The chances of it increasing close to 2 feet by 2050 seem to be incredibly slim. To me a worst case scenario of 3 feet seems much more reasonable. 12 to 15 inches seems much more realistic though or maybe even less.
The beauty of these predictions is that no one responsible for them will live to see their failure. They can’t lose even when making outlandish claims.

D B H
Reply to  Bill J
May 3, 2017 2:44 am

Yes, we’ll all be long dead BUT the fallout of the decisions, made now, will still be around

Don K
Reply to  Bill J
May 3, 2017 7:22 am

To me a worst case scenario of 3 feet seems much more reasonable. 12 to 15 inches seems much more realistic though or maybe even less.
Going from memory, that’s about what AR5 says in the sea level chapter. You’re probably a bit below them on the probable amount, but not a lot. Don’t have time to look it up right now.

May 3, 2017 12:47 am
May 3, 2017 1:11 am

And that’s happening almost EVERY year’s winter / spring:
flooding of the Danube River –
https://www.google.at/search?q=floodings+in+Ybbs+Persenbeug&oq=floodings+in+Ybbs+Persenbeug&aqs=chrome.

tty
Reply to  kreizkruzifix
May 3, 2017 1:58 am

Actually really big floods are very unusual in the Donau system, it is one of the least flood-prone of the large rivers of the world. For example Pest, the eastern part of Budapest which is quite low-lying has only been badly flooded once in historical times, in 1856. Though that was a very bad flood, and the reason all the really old buildings are in Buda, which is much higher.

Reply to  tty
May 15, 2017 4:13 am

tty, I worked in Ybbs and slept in a hostel near the Danube.
One the the car didn’t start – the battery was done by the cold: and the Danube was blocked by an Eisstoss.
So I walked to the bureau and found blood in my shoes – because of the cold I didn’t feel what I did to my feet in shoes made for driving a car.
Next Spring the cellar of the company was flooded by Danube water.
https://www.google.at/search?q=ybbs+persenbeug+hochwasser&oq=ybbs+Persenbeug++%C3%9Cberflutung&aqs=chrome.

Stephen Greene
May 3, 2017 1:18 am

Their it is! The Alarmists special way to incite fear using pseudo science, i.e. “semi empirical,” When I see that my bull shit meter goes ding ding ding!

Barryjo
Reply to  Stephen Greene
May 3, 2017 6:51 am

It is a good trick. For years, we have been asking for “empirical evidence” of global warming. So they now come up with “semi-empirical”. And the Kool-Aid drinkers see empirical and think all is well. Presto, chango.

arthur4563
May 3, 2017 1:42 am

You’d think that these alarmists would put the cart before the horse, and provide evidence of significant global warming before making predictions about its effects.

tty
Reply to  kreizkruzifix
May 3, 2017 1:51 am

“de Grote Mandrenk” doesn’t mean “big men drowning” it means “the great people-drowning”

Hugs
Reply to  tty
May 3, 2017 8:28 am

However, the Big Ben is great! And, Englishwo/men don’t do compound words on the fly.

Reply to  tty
May 15, 2017 4:14 am

I see you got it !

tty
May 3, 2017 1:47 am

Ten feet to 2100 requires that virtually the whole West Antarctic Icesheet melts until then (total melt gives sea-level rise of 11 feet). Half of the Greenland Ice-sheet would have the same effect, but is physically impossible in that time-frame since it lies on land and must melt where it is. Interestingly it seems that about half the Greenland icesheet did melt during the Eemian/Sangamonian interglacial. That took 7,000 years at a temperature 8 degrees C higher than today.

Bill Illis
May 3, 2017 2:11 am

Now here is something that will have to be adjusted.
Sea level change measured by the new Jason3 satellite since Jan 2016. -0.66 mm/year.
(Jason2 is also showing the same flat or falling trend after the peak of the El Nino in Nov 2015).comment image

tty
Reply to  Bill Illis
May 3, 2017 1:41 pm

The sea level always goes down a bit after a Nino. And the Big California Rain may be contributing a tenth of a millimeter or two as well. A lot of that rain/snowmelt will go straight down into the watertable, and it may take quite a while before it gets back to the ocean..

Editor
May 3, 2017 2:23 am

You can’t even get 3′ of sea level rise without rates exceeding the Holocene transgression…comment image

D B H
Reply to  David Middleton
May 3, 2017 2:51 am

I recall a speaker at one of the much watched conferences, showing, like you have Tom, a chart of current day sea level rise, then ‘added’ the projections of a well know alarmist (I forget the doom-sayer name) and the resulting graph line made the ‘hockey stick’ graph, look like a flat liner.
It was simply ridiculous.
Would love to re-watch that video, but for the love of me, can’t find it.

D B H
Reply to  D B H
May 3, 2017 2:55 am

Ooops, I was actually referring to you, David.
D’oh!!
How could I do that to a man I share the same name with??

Reply to  David Middleton
May 3, 2017 3:00 am

Tom… Dave… very similar… LOL!

MarkW
Reply to  David Middleton
May 3, 2017 6:32 am

All us d#niers look alike.

Hugs
Reply to  David Middleton
May 3, 2017 8:33 am

Point taken. There is nothing to see before 2050, and I’m long dead before I could be sued for selling beach front property.

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