Guest essay by Eric Worrall
Arctic Scientist Victoria Herrmann is complaining Donald Trump’s website reengineering has removed links to work she cited. My question – why didn’t she make her own copies?
I am an Arctic researcher. Donald Trump is deleting my citations
Victoria Herrmann
These politically motivated data deletions come at a time when the Arctic is warming twice as fast as the global average
As an Arctic researcher, I’m used to gaps in data. Just over 1% of US Arctic waters have been surveyed to modern standards. In truth, some of the maps we use today haven’t been updated since the second world war. Navigating uncharted waters can prove difficult, but it comes with the territory of working in such a remote part of the world.
Over the past two months though, I’ve been navigating a different type of uncharted territory: the deleting of what little data we have by the Trump administration.
At first, the distress flare of lost data came as a surge of defunct links on 21 January. The US National Strategy for the Arctic, the Implementation Plan for the Strategy, and the report on our progress all gone within a matter of minutes. As I watched more and more links turned red, I frantically combed the internet for archived versions of our country’s most important polar policies.
I had no idea then that this disappearing act had just begun.
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These back-to-back data deletions come at a time when the Arctic is warming twice as fast as the global average. Just this week, it was reported that the Arctic’s winter sea ice dropped to its lowest level in recorded history. The impacts of a warming, ice-free Arctic are already clear: a decline in habitat for polar bears and other Arctic animals; increases in coastal erosion that force Alaskans to abandon their homes; and the opening up of shipping routes with unpredictable conditions and hazardous icebergs.
In a remote region where data is already scarce, we need publicly available government guidance and records now more than ever before. It is hard enough for modern Arctic researchers to perform experiments and collect data to fill the gaps left by historic scientific expeditions. While working in one of the most physically demanding environments on the planet, we don’t have time to fill new data gaps created by political malice.
So please, President Trump, stop deleting my citations.
In my opinion this pathetic complaint is an attempt to deflect blame for Victoria’s own carelessness.
Poor data archiving by climate scientists is an ongoing scandal.
If a citation is an essential supporting document for her work, Victoria should have made her own copy of that citation.
There is no excuse these days for not having your own copy of important data. Modern data storage is cheap. A flash drive which can fit on your keychain, which holds two terabytes of data, can be purchased for less than a hundred dollars.
A single terabyte is an enormous amount of data. A terabyte is enough data storage to hold 200 separate electronic copies of the the entire electronic version of the Encyclopaedia Britannica (2013).
A two terabyte flash drive could probably hold every paper Victoria has ever written, along with the entire tree of referenced citations, everything the referenced citations cited, and all the supporting data – and still have plenty of free space for the family photo album.
The US government does not have an obligation to permanently host copies of people’s work. If citations have been permanently lost, the slipshod archiving habits of climate scientists are to blame, not the housecleaning activities of US government agencies.
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Eric
“In my opinion this pathetic complaint is an attempt to deflect blame for Victoria’s own carelessness.”
Is that what this is really all about?
No, TM. This is:
http://www.picturesof.net/_images_300/Adult_Woman_Throwing_a_Temper_Tantrum_Kicking_and_Screaming_on_the_Floor_Royalty_Free_Clipart_Picture_110707-145699-074012.jpg
Reminds me of (a much smaller version of) Trigglypuff…but it makes the point.
So this so-called “scientist” does not know the difference between DATA and politically motivated policy articles, or more likely, is deliberately confounding the two.
Well if recorded history only goes back to 1979, then there certain has been some serious data deletion going on. 5000 years of data on human civilsation has apparently gone. This can only be Trump’s doing. /sarc.
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Ah, so it is “citations” that have been disappearing , not DATA. Why didn’t you say so? Despite the attempts to call this data deletion, she does not once reference any data which she alleges to have been deleted.
Please complain to:
Readers’ editor (Guardian)
oops, WP filter removed the email
guardian.readers at theguardian.com
https://climateaudit.org/2009/11/26/the-deleted-portion-of-the-briffa-reconstruction/
Trump is not the one deleting data, we have activist scientists to take care of that.
What idiot would publish their only copy…on a government website
Who falls for this crap?
No, it’s not her work , it is her “citations”, ie things that her political advocacy work link TO. Apparently her “scientific work” makes many references to policy related documents which have been removed. That reveals a lot about the nature of what she is writing and her claims to be a scientist.
Scientists link to data, political advocates link to policy documents.
The Obama website was not deleted. It was simply replaced with Trump’s website, which happens when a new President takes office. The old website is safely archived. Trump has no obligation to keep Victoria Herrmann’s propaganda on his website.
Donald Trump thinks that he can control the whitehouse.gov website. Wrong! Victoria Herrmann controls it, and Trump maliciously interferes with her sacred work.
William Connolley, in a blog-post, dtd March 28, 2017, that appears at his “Stoat” site, provides an amusing discussion of Ms. Victoria “Fast-Track” Herrmann’s too, too sad story, along with some larger considerations of her “little act”, that positively drips with understated, Brit-wit, “judgemental” contempt. Well worth a read, I recommend.
My take-away from W’s post?–“Vicky” is in way over her head.
Hmmm…Just read an article (google: “pundifact George Takei says white house removed pages”), that maintains the deletion of materials, posted to the White House website, during the Obama era, were removed by President Obama, not President Trump. Hope that’s true. Too delicious, if so.
Here’s the link. Normally I find Connolley excruciating to read but not this one.
http://scienceblogs.com/stoat/2017/03/28/i-am-an-arctic-researcher-donald-trump-is-deleting-my-citations/
Drips with irony too from the world champion of Wiki edits and deletions.
Yeah, Connolley is a bit of a drip (understatement – I was dealing with him back on UseNet in the early 90s…), but I liked this bit:
“She appears to be a Gates Cambridge Scholar, PhD Candidate 2014 – 2018 (Expected) at the dept of Geography and/or SPRI. You might well ask how that is compatible with her also being 2015—Present: President & Managing Director, The Arctic Institute.”
Probably the same way so many 20-somethings are “Senior Editors” at well-quoted websites I’ve never heard of.
How much effort does it require to make a copy of a link?
That she failed to do so is her fault and no one else’s.
She’s nuts. I found it. Obama’s whitehouse.gov pages are archived. Search: US National Strategy for the Arctic whitehouse.gov.
But she talks about the deletion of policy documents and strategies. And reports on progress. Hmmm, weren’t those reports published somewhere other than the web? And are they the definitive source for the data?
I have some good news for Victoria.
The Arctic will ALWAYS warm about twice as fast as the global average; always has and always will.
Well that does presuppose that the globe is warming, which is not unexpected coming out of an ice age.
On the other hand, if the globe was cooling for some extended period of time, then you can also expect that the arctic will cool about half as fast as the global average.
It has to do with this Stefan-Boltzmann thing. You know the formula that says EM radiation from black bodies and lookalikes goes as the fourth power of the Temperature; the total radiant emittance that is.
So the hottest dry deserts on earth cool at about 12 times the rate that the coldest Antarctic highlands regions do.
So very little cooling goes on in the Arctic, while the tropics feed lots of excess heat into the Arctic via Gulf streams and the like.
So worry not Victoria, the Arctic will always warm about twice as fast as the global average; that is if the global average IS warming at all.
It’s 4-H club physics.
G
Not to mention that this ‘measured’ warmth is often the result of incoming warm moist air…which is entering an area where the temperature is still below MINUS 15˚C…so a ‘warming’ Arctic is likely to accumulate ice and snow!
So…the massive gain in Greenland Ice this past winter was in fact caused by…..Global Warming!!!
‘The US National Strategy for the Arctic, the Implementation Plan for the Strategy, and the report on our progress all gone’
As I read what she said, what’s missing is NOT data – it’s the Arctic Strategy. So, this sounds like more lying about what the facts really are. (Or, am I misreading her statement?)
I wonder what else she had posted that got deleted with her links.
Wow. This loon thinks that “policies” are Arctic “data”. No, they are not the same. At all.
Good riddance to bad policy I say. The actual measurement data is poorly archived but is not being deleted.
I’m glad that deeply incompetent people who cannot tell the difference between policy and measurement data are no longer near the People’s hard-earned tax dollars.
“The US National Strategy for the Arctic, the Implementation Plan for the Strategy, and the report on our progress all gone within a matter of minutes”
In other words, she didn’t lose data so much as she lost the links to the public relations press releases for the data.
(The NSAR is also published in several other places, and it took me nearly ten seconds to figure that out)
Why can’t Victoria be more like Griff – he hardly ever uses links. He makes stuff up out of thin air.
Oh my, someone threw a bucket of water on her data and it’s melting away.
It’s over 40 years since I started archiving my data and my work – on microfilm, redundant copies in two locations. It is so much easier today that only somebody totally incompetent and not fit to be put in charge of cleaning the toilets could fail to archive data securely.
Ms. Herrmann screeches:
And she wants us to take her seriously?
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Further:
What “data” has been “deleted”? She gasps about broken links to REPORTS and PLANS, then, apparently by kriging, claims that “data” has been “deleted.”
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This is the solution to help (sure we want to help her 🙂 ) this panicking climate clown:
Give her a battery-powered megaphone,
an overturned pumpkin bin placed in the middle of Times Square,
a stuffed polar bear to wave around,
and tell her, “The world is watching — go for it!”
and she’ll be contentedly bellowing till……
forever, unless she notices the batteries on her bullhorn are dead. Then, she will be OVERJOYED, for she can then throw another fit and yell her head off about Donald Trump and battery sabotage …… or whatever…..
Perhaps a Solar powered bullhorn?
Heh. Yeah. Then she will think it will last ….. FOREVER! (renewable, don’t you know)
Give her both polar bear and penguin stuffies so both hands are busy
John and Janice…Perhaps a Solar powered bullhorn?
And that solar powered bullhorn, and all its power supply will be free and forever but, just as important, so will the legislation that we Must Create that ensures that this is Victoria’s Bullphone and Power supply forever and that Donald J Trump must never, ever, ever take them away.
EVER.
The Good…The Bad…The Dastardly and Climate Science…The Pantomine.
RobertBobbert! Hi! I just love writing that name! So, I did! 🙂
Thanks for the embellishments.
Guide Dogs Queensland?
Get Drunk Quick?
How about a wind-powered bullhorn?
The advantage to a solar powered bull-horn is that it will stop working either at sun down or shortly thereafter if it has a small battery.
In either case, near by residents get to sleep.
David Middleton: GREAT idea! Perpetual power!!
MarkW: Yes, indeed — for all our sakes, a solar powered one, lol.
David Middleton:
Wind powered bullhorn – easy, you just blow hot air into it.
My first thought was a propeller beanie (with a little generator).
A wind powered bullhorn !
Once you get it started it runs by itself with just a little feedback from its own wind output.
g
Based upon my experience with government Web sites, it’s highly likely that the buggy software at her links.
Next she will blame the Russians. ‘The Russians hacked my links.’
Everything on whitehouse.gov changes when there is a change President.
Janice, I think this is just part of the “faithful” at the EPA deleting their own junk and she just got caught in their own “brain drain”.
James wrote: “Next she will blame the Russians. ‘The Russians hacked my links.’”
+1.
What’s missing? Inconvenient data perhaps?
Not being an academic (I’m a retired CFO), it’s a little difficult to understand this complaint from Victoria Hermann (I understand her specific complaint: she never backed up her links and somebody deleted them). I can’t comprehend putting yourself in the position of an implied-but-not-contracted position of dependence on actions by a totally unrelated entity (the bureaucratic government) who may not even explicitly know of the dependence.
Is it really considered good academic practice to have material parts of your life’s work-product undocumented in your own records?
As a CFO, I’d probably be thrown in jail if I tried to claim the SEC was responsible for saving all my prior year’s financial records.
This just sounds like somebody did something primitively stupid and got caught.
It’ll be interesting to read comments from others who have more “academic” experience.
“I understand her specific complaint: she never backed up her links and somebody deleted them”
No, I don’t think you do. She isn’t talking about data that she generated or was responsible for. She is talking about ordinary government web materials, including data, that she had linked to in documents in the expectation that they would continue to be available.
“Nick Stokes March 29, 2017 at 7:07 pm
She is talking about ordinary government web materials, including data, that she had linked to in documents in the expectation that they would continue to be available.”
I do believe a Govn’t has the right to manage content on its websites. She assumed it would be available in perpetuity. What gives her the right to assume that?
“… in the expectation that they would continue to be available.”
An unreasonable expectation for links to any website, whether governmental or not. Her “it is someone else’s fault” whiny complaint is typical of those with collegiate liberal indoctrination.
“I do believe a Govn’t has the right to manage content on its websites.”
Certainly. But the fact that they went down on 21 January doesn’t suggest it was a website reorganization. Someone really wanted to make that material unavailable. And on that date, the reason could hardly have been other than political.
“Nick Stokes March 29, 2017 at 8:27 pm
Certainly. But the fact that they went down on 21 January doesn’t suggest…”
Not by a long shot. The article says she discovered the links were unavailable on that date, not that they “went down” on that date. They could have been removed before then, it’s not clear to me. You are reading something that is not there Nick.
“And on that date, the reason could hardly have been other than political.”
Sorry Nick, but you’re making me laugh.
The reason that information was on the website(s) to begin with was political.
” The article says she discovered the links were unavailable on that date, not that they “went down” on that date. They could have been removed before then, it’s not clear to me. You are reading something that is not there Nick.”
No, she says:
“At first, the distress flare of lost data came as a surge of defunct links on 21 January. The US National Strategy for the Arctic, the Implementation Plan for the Strategy, and the report on our progress all gone within a matter of minutes. As I watched more and more links turned red, “
I think it would have helped if she said exactly what data she is talking about and where it was. But that’s what she says.
“Nick Stokes March 29, 2017 at 9:26 pm”
In all my life working with web links embedded in documents etc, I have never seen any turn red…all by themselves…without trying to open the link first. So what she is claiming is she was at a computer with her “research” open with links displayed and on 21st January 2017 she just watched all those links go red, one by one, right in front of her? I don’t think so!
She is referring, not to data, but to “policy documents.” New administration – new policy.
However, for historical – and for the purpose of future criminal charges, I do hope they are all archived somewhere.
Of course, for warmists, policy is “data” – whatever the policy needs, the “data” is manufactured for it. Too bad my bank doesn’t agree with that notion…
I think this is just part of the “faithful” at the EPA or other agencies deleting their own junk and she just got caught in their own “brain drain”. (posted something similar earlier).
“I do hope they are all archived somewhere.”
According to Stoat, what has happened is that this part of whitehouse.gov was moved to obamawhitehouse.archives.gov, which all seems reasonable.
“Nick Stokes March 29, 2017 at 10:34 pm
According to Stoat…”
Reliable source Nick. I don’t need a /sarc off tag…
She isn’t talking about data, but policies of the previous president. On Jan 21, the new president came in and the old policies went out. What has her so surprised? Who but a political scientist would even care what the previous president’s policies were?
If it was data that she generated, then she is doubly liable for failing to maintain a copy of it.
You are failing to defend her and in fact are making her look worse.
“If it was data that she generated”
It wasn’t. That’s a local fantasy, promoted by the headline here. There is no basis for it in the actual reports.
Quite. Doesn’t anyone smell a rat here? I doubt reactions would have been this unanimous if Obama deleted the links. I have no faith in AGW whatever, but she is entitled to rely on her previous sources which, apart from any other consideration, form part of her condiions of service. Altogether, this is a slovenly and vindictive piece which does nothing to enhance WUWT’s reputation. Breitbart and the Huffington Post do no worse. What’s on the go?
Wouldn’t be the first Government web materials that once existed, and then got vanished.
For example NASANOA once had a three dimensional global plot of (well-mixed) global atmospheric CO2 abundance, from North pole to South pole, plotted over about ten or so contiguous years.
It showed dramatically (that’s a scientific term) how the annual cycle of CO2 goes from about 18-20 ppmm p-p at the north pole, to about -1 ppmm p-p at the south pole, with a near zero, somewhere well south in the southern hemisphere; thereby demonstrating that the CO2 in the atmosphere is anything but well mixed. It’s totally asymmetric about the equator too, , and as we know is about 6 ppmm p-p for Mauna Loa.
I have a printed copy of the NOAA original; but it now seems to be among the disappeared from the web.
G
So how many years of Federal Tax support documentation does the Infernal Revenue Service require one to keep these days ??
G
Lets see… If I were a sloppy scientist and made statements that were SUPPOSED to be supported by the work of others, but in fact never existed then the Trump Deletion Sham [TDS] would be a near perfect excuse. If, on the other hand, the ‘scientist’ was a professor (similar to a teacher), would she accept that excuse for such sloppy work from one of her students?
If she was a left wing teacher, whether or not she accepted to excuse would be based on whether or not she agreed with the conclusion.
A comment from The Guardian website:
BugMeNot 2h ago
The data in question, the reports and associated materials are right here, and was found by googling “US National Strategy for the Arctic” as the second link on the first page of results.
https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2016/03/09/advancing-implementation-national-strategy-arctic-region
The strategy was hosted by the Obama Whitehouse.gov website, and during the transitioned all data from Obamas Whitehouse.gov website was archived (as per normal transition activities) and Trumps Whitehouse.gov website was started fresh.
There is nothing malicious here, nothing bad has happened. Just normal Presidential transition behavior, to archive the predecessor content to ensure it remains accessible.
If this researcher can’t even accomplish this simple act of Googling, I’m not sure how much we can trust their research.
she’s not a researcher….she’s a community organizer
+1 Latitude Dude!
She’s trying to get a PhD, and she does interview people, get on CNN, etc. I think she qualifies as a researcher. Here’s her bio from the place where she works at
http://www.thearcticinstitute.org/experts/victoria-herrmann/
A community organizer that lacks organization?
She’s no scientist. She’s a leftist humanities type. Undergrad degrees are international studies and she’s working on a PhD in Political Geigraphy. She’s an activist, and not much more.
Go ahead and check her org’s web site out. As Latitude noted, a community organizer.
Apologies for the typos. Geography.
She isn’t a “community organiser”, she’s an activist shrill.
Shill or Shrill?
Any who, both work.
I examined a variety of documents and links provided on the Arctic Institute website, including their 2015 and 2016 Annual Reports. I found no references to financials or funding sources. The only financial related tidbit I could find was “Established in 2011, The Arctic Institute is an independent, nonprofit 501(c)3 tax-exempt organization headquartered in Washington, D.C….
They seem to be more involved in ‘networking and shaping opinions’ than substantive research so I would tentatively agree that ‘community organizer’ and ‘activist’ are suitable appellations.
“””””….. Victoria holds a Masters degree from the Norman Paterson School of International Affairs at Carleton University in Ottawa and Bachelor’s degree in International Relations and Art History from Lehigh University in Pennsylvania. …..”””””
I should get a bachelor’s degree in International Relations.
This morning, I ordered my McDonalds “round egg” (AKA a poached egg), from a very nice bilingual Mexican lady at my local McDs, and then I sat at ate it at my both with a very nice bilingual Chinese gentleman for company; and he was showing me his very monolingual Chinese newspaper for the day, with a front page story about an apparently not very nice former South Korean President; and the very large and surprisingly English ” 45 ” on the front page, he explained was the number of years of her imprisonment, for not being very nice when she was President.
Well this burger emporium is sort of a town hall meeting place, and we don’t give a rip about anybody’s ethnicity; or which of the 57 recognized genders (not including hermaphrodites).
So I think I’m more than qualified to lecture on International relations.
It’s sad that so much public space is wasted on discussions of climate science, by apparently prominent persons, who show no visible evidence, of having ANY formal education, in ANY branch of either Science, OR Mathematics.
I have no problem with persons who for their own reasons, are educated solely in the fine arts, or other disciplines of academic interest. They have a place in open societies.
But they are ill equipped to be playing spokesfolk for scientific or other technical disciplines.
It’s about akin to me trying to pass myself off as an accredited expert on US Constitutional Law, or even the Law of the Sea.
She does fit the model of community organizer, or other busybody activist.
G
Thanks, I thought as much. Just someone joining the anti Trump bandwagon.
She is a bit late in complaining about wiping out data. The Hockey Stick wiped out the Medieval warm period & the little ice age in one swipe. What did she say then?
“Victoria Herrmann is the President and Managing Director of The Arctic Institute.
Established in 2011, The Arctic Institute is an independent, nonprofit 501(c)3 tax-exempt organization headquartered in Washington, D.C with a network of researchers across the world.
Victoria holds a Masters degree from the Norman Paterson School of International Affairs at Carleton University in Ottawa and Bachelor’s degree in International Relations and Art History from Lehigh University in Pennsylvania.
In 2016, Victoria is traveling across the United States for a National Geographic funded book on climate change stories, America’s Eroding Edges.”
She was already writing about Trump in September.
http://www.thearcticinstitute.org/build-wall-alaska/
ie. A political organizer who given her “Art History and International Relations” major (is there such a thing).
community organizer
Why don’t Art History majors ever do Art History? I mean, I would be interested in her talking about that, not science twisted by fear mongering progressive talking points AGAIN.
“Why don’t Art History majors ever do Art History? ”
Oh she certainly is talking about it. Haven’t you noticed how artful climastrology really is?
chilemike March 29, 2017 at 6:19 pm
“Why don’t Art History majors ever do Art History?”
Good question myself I tend to like Lady Butler’s paintings.
Kipling for poems and Elisabeth Thompson for the paintings to bring them to life.
https://www.google.com/search?q=lady+butler+painting+roll+call&oq=lady+butler&aqs=chrome.3.69i57j0l5.5672j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#q=elizabeth+thompson+paintings&*
Thankfully Lady Butler had “hard copies” of her work.
michael
Busted.
She is a standard environmentalist.
In other words…
NOT a scientist – a bullshit artist.
Betcha $5 she is in the “science” parade.
It’s kind of ironic that she is complaining of deleted links. A few years ago, someone posted a link from The Arctic Institute to one of my posts. They used to link to tell me that these “experts” were predicting an ice-free arctic by 2015. I saved that link, so when 2015 passed and the Arctic was not ice free, I could show another bad prediction made by the “experts.” But when I went to post that link in a comment not too long ago, I got the 404 message. So I had to get it from the waybackmachine. So I wonder why Victoria is deleting her own links?
https://web.archive.org/web/20130821065900/http://www.thearcticinstitute.org/p/arctic-sea-ice-extent-and-volume.html
BAM. Got ‘er. Nice one, Kristy!
“It’ll be interesting to read comments from others who have more “academic” experience”
LOL.
“Back it up. Then back it up again. The back it up and put it in a safe deposit box. Don’t rely on your girlfriend/boyfriend whatever. Writing a thesis can sometimes be harmful to your personal relationships … ”
Every year there were a few documents that required a password to be cracked. That was easy enough with WordPerfect 4.1 and Word, but these days with 7z 256 bit, if it is more than a short rude word, forget it.
I was told that you must back up your work. Corrupted data was no excuse for late submission. I used to carry multiple floppy discs. It was a while ago that I was at University.
You mean quite recently. My work was on 80-column punched cards.
My first programming class we used punch cards.
For my second programming class we used a teletype machine.
For my third programming class we used a small monochrome monitor.
Technology moved fast in those days.
What’s with you new kids… paper tape use to be our storage of choice. In fact I had one customer that still transmitted their payroll records via 5-bit Baudot in 1965. And, the world’s first hotel reservations system, the Hollday Inn Holidex system, was implemented around that same year using ASR32 Teletype terminals (5-bit Baudot). I think they still used those until around 1980.
didn’t lose much……
J Scott Armstrong: Fewer Than 1 Percent Of Papers in Scientific Journals Follow Scientific Method
Fewer than 1 percent of papers published in scientific journals follow the scientific method, according to research by Wharton School professor and forecasting expert J. Scott Armstrong.
Professor Armstrong, who co-founded the peer-reviewed Journal of Forecasting in 1982 and the International Journal of Forecasting in 1985, made the claim in a presentation about what he considers to be “alarmism” from forecasters over man-made climate change.
http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/03/29/j-scott-armstrong-fraction-1-papers-scientific-journals-follow-scientific-method/
Websites get revamped and links become broken all the time.
“and the opening up of shipping routes with unpredictable conditions and hazardous icebergs.”
These people are so shrill and idiotic with their alarmism that I hope they just go away soon due to lack of funding. So she is saying that if shipping channels open up in the future that they will be dangerous because of man made global warming because there will still be dangerous icebergs seeking revenge on the crew of these ships ? And I assume the screed on erosion in Alaska is once again that one village that is by the mouth of that river? This from someone too stupid to back up her own data.
The poor lady states, “Just this week, it was reported that the Arctic’s winter sea ice dropped to its lowest level in recorded history.”
I think she meant to say, “…the Arctic’s winter sea-ice rose to a tie with the lowest high recorded since the record high of 1979, which is the only data NOAA uses, ignoring the NIMBUS satellite data from earlier, and the exhaustive pre-satellite data used by Vinnikov et al, which showed low levels between 1935 and 1955.”
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Should read that the winter high reached a record low since the 1979 high, which was highest of the past century, at least.
Recorded history began some 5000 years ago, about the time of the end of the Holocene Optimum, thousands of years during which Arctic sea ice was lower most of the time than now.
Correct Gloateus, Julius Caesar launched a polar orbiting satellite that documented how little Arctic sea ice there was around 49-47 BC. Any citizen of Rome would tell you that Arctic sea ice was surprisingly low.
Here’s a pretty picture from O-buoy 14, which has come back to life after a winter of hibernation.
?w=680
West winds have shoved O-buoy 14, along with lots of sea-ice, far into Parry Channel, to a point south of Melville Island. Parry Channel is the northern route of the Northwest Passage, and the western part is never used because it is crammed with ice. (People take the southern route by the coast of mainland Canada.) Yet Parry Channel is named after William Parry, who sailed past the point O-buoy 14 views in a wooden sailboat. No, I did not say icebreaker. I said a wooden sailboat (with some metal sheathing on its bow) and the year was? Get this: The year was 1819.
People who talk of “record sea-ice lows” just are too blasted lazy to study history. It is sad, for they don’t know all the cool stuff they are missing.
Caleb. + many, and yes history ( and geography) is cool. !! Oh if only our kids would be able to read some of those diaries, frankly the should be mandatory as many other ones regarding Africa, South America and so on.. A lot more interesting than video games, reality!
Ergo the need to follow archive steps delineated by the organization one belongs to.
Here, you can use this link:
Climate “Science” on Trial; Give a Climate Alarmist Enough Rope They’ll Hang Themselves
https://co2islife.wordpress.com/2017/03/26/climate-science-on-trial-give-a-climate-alarmist-enough-rope-theyll-hang-themselves/
Or this one:
Speak of the Devil; Nature Confirms the Arctic Sea Ice Atmospheric Circulation Theory
https://co2islife.wordpress.com/2017/03/26/speak-of-the-devil-nature-confirms-the-arctic-sea-ice-atmospheric-circulation-theory/
Everybody knew that data might be endangered once The Donald took power. They had big parties to back up everything they could find. If someone lost data, it’s their own fault for not paying attention.
This comes as no surprise to me. Lefties and academics aren’t real big on engaging with reality, they much prefer nice neat theories.
Worrall, are you really that dense to think she’s complaining of no longer having the data? The problem is lack of public access to the data. This is supposedly what the new House bill on EPA science is all about. But, of course, the Republicans only want access to data they deem accurate.
All — of — the — data — is — still — available.
She’s reading from the play book. Don’t expect independent thought from this one.
Re: OT at 7:19pm
This: https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/03/29/arctic-researcher-the-donald-ate-my-homework/comment-page-1/#comment-2463468
was posted by Curious George at 5:55pm.
“…the Republicans only want access to data they deem accurate.”
I second that motion. The White House web site should only contain trustworthy data. In itself, that’s a good reason to scrub the Obama junk. Even if it was archived at another site.
But that isn’t her complaint. Read between the lines. Her complain is that Trump is the President.
Ophelia,
None of the documents (not data) that she linked to were deleted, they were simply moved. This is normal when a new president takes office. A few seconds spent with a search engine would have revealed this. Her histrionics are completely manufactured and you fell for it.
Sigh, meant to say “not deleted”.
Before there was the internet and computers and cheap storage, many of us went to the library, photo-copied the data and reports we needed or thought we might need (at a nickel a page), put them into a three ring binder and kept them in a safe place. Anything less was just stupid.
Victoria Herrmann would have been more convincing if she had referenced specific data that had been deleted. She wrote about data deletion by Stephen Harper in 2014 but no specifics about Trump administration deletions. In any case, she apparently learned nothing from the Stephen Harper case.
More than half the images on my site are linked from NOAA Ocean Explorer:
http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/
For around 2 months I’ve been getting “Firefox can’t find the server” when I try to visit from Australia.
I don’t know if if they are turning the server off during US night, or if they are blocking non-US traffic. Google cache took the last snapshot of the ocean explorer home page just 2 days ago, when I couldn’t access it. Very odd.
Does anyone have an idea how I can retrieve copies of the images to upload via blogger?
The new GOES-16 webpages was available for a whole 48 hours without problems after it was featured here and in mainstream media. Then it became intermittent, mostly unavailable, like all NOAA sites over the last 2 months. What gives?
“More than half the images on my site are linked from NOAA Ocean Explorer”
Bad practice. Take a copy for your own site & link to that instead. That way, if the NOAA site changes structure, you don’t need to update every link. Worse, they could just decide they don’t want to publish those pictures. Where would you be then?
Another point, if you link to images on another site, you make your own site subject to whatever delays the other site might be suffering from.
IE, high volume at the NOAA site making your own site slower.
I didn’t even save copies of the images in case the links broke, not even when they started appearing irregularly instead of reliably. Fortunately, I did find copies at archive.org today and restored everything.
Lesson learned.
Experience, the best teacher.
And toughest.
Where is the data and citations?
Its Victoria’s secret.
so to speak.
It’s…
Speaking literately.
BRIAN H! Hi! 🙂
For once, I am so glad to see you correct someone. I have not seen you comment in months and was worried…. We have so MANY MIA’s around here. Glad you are not another one!
Janice
The thought of her in lingerie. I just threw up in my mouth a little.