Oil – Will we run out?

By Andy May

“Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future” (old Danish proverb, sometimes attributed to Niels Bohr or Yogi Berra)

In November, 2016 the USGS (United States Geological Survey) reported their assessment of the recent discovery of 20 billion barrels of oil equivalent (technically recoverable) in the Midland Basin of West Texas. About the same time IHS researcher Peter Blomquist published an estimate of 35 billion barrels. Compare these estimates with Ghawar Field in Saudi Arabia, the largest conventional oil field in the world, which contained 80 billion barrels when discovered. There is an old saying in the oil and gas exploration business “big discoveries get bigger and small discoveries get smaller.” As a retired petrophysicist who has been involved with many discoveries of all sizes, I can say this is what I’ve always seen, although I have no statistics to back the statement up. Twenty or thirty years from now when the field is mostly developed, it is very likely the estimated ultimate hydrocarbon recovery from the field will be larger than either of those estimates.

Producing oil and gas from shale was unknown in the 1950’s when the irascible geologist Marion King Hubbert predicted that U.S. oil production would peak in the early 1970’s and decline thereafter.  How is that prediction working out?  Does the new shale production technology make a difference?

Definition of critical terms

Government regulations impose strict rules on how oil and gas reserves are estimated. Because, proven reserves are used to compute the equity of an oil and gas company, the calculation is very conservative. As long as a company follows the rules (and they do or they risk going to jail) accessing any “booked” proven reserves means drilling a well that is “economic,” completing it and producing the reserves. By economic, we mean the cost of drilling, completing, transporting and selling the oil or gas will pay the company back for its costs and provide a reasonable profit after taxes and royalties to the land owner are paid. Besides proven reserves, most companies keep track of probable reserves and possible reserves, these do not affect the equity of the company, but they can affect how investors value a company, and thus the stock price. Finally, there is one other category, called “technically recoverable reserves.” This is the broadest category, it is simply an estimate of how much oil and gas can be produced using current technology, regardless of cost or profitability.

Estimates of technically recoverable reserves are very broad brush. To make the estimate a geoscientist will typically map an oil or gas bearing formation and use the best estimate of the formations average oil and/or gas content to compute the OIP or oil-in-place after converting the gas to oil-equivalent. Once this volume is computed, it will be reduced by an estimated “recovery factor” to account for the oil left in the ground after the field is abandoned. Generally, very conservative values are used for both the volume of hydrocarbons and the recovery factor.

The US Department of the Interior Bureau of Ocean Energy Management published an estimate of the oil and gas reserves for the Gulf of Mexico Outer Continental Shelf in 2015, here. They estimated that total original reserves of this region of the Gulf of Mexico were 22 billion barrels of oil and 193 trillion cubic feet of gas. How did they define reserves? See figure 1:

Figure 1, source BOEM.

Here, reserves are defined as developed (a well has been drilled and completed that is expected to produce them), proven and undeveloped (field infrastructure has been built, but the well needed to produce the hydrocarbons has not been drilled yet) and justified reserves (these are discovered and mapped and both the government and the company have approved the field for development). The estimate above also includes oil and gas already produced. Contingent resources are mostly producible, but uneconomic, oil and gas left behind in abandoned fields. The undiscovered resources are estimated using statistical techniques, the methodology can be seen here. U.S. onshore reserves are defined differently as are reserves in other countries, but proven, probable and possible “reserves” usually have a commerciality component. Technically recoverable reserves do not have a commerciality hurdle, they only meet a technology hurdle.

Right after a field is discovered a calculation of economically producible reserves must be made because fields are very expensive to develop. Pipelines must be built, wells drilled, facilities constructed and all of this must be done with borrowed money. No oil is produced or sold and no money made until this work is done. As a result, this early assessment will be very conservative. In one field I was involved in, Bohai Bay Block 0436 in China, our initial estimate of proven reserves was only 80 million barrels of oil in the first 20 years. After twenty years, the field had produced 150 million barrels and the field is still producing today. We knew the upside potential of the field at the beginning, but we were only confident enough, with the data we had at the time, in the 80 million barrels. Thus, we used that as the “official” estimate and as the basis for borrowing the development money.

The impact of technology

In the early days of oil and gas, drillers selected the location of their exploration wells based on the presence of oil and gas seeps on the surface, for example the La Brea tar pits in Los Angeles, or the Binagadi tar lake near Baku, Azerbaijan. Figure 2 is a picture of the La Brea tar pits in 1875, you can see the old wooden drilling rigs in the background.

Figure 2, source La Brea Tar Pits Museum.

Once all the seeps had been drilled, early geologists like the legendary Everett Carpenter, found that they could locate anticlinal oil and gas accumulations by mapping surface geology in prospective areas. This new technology was used to find many very large oil fields, like El Dorado in Kansas. Later the development of commercial resistivity surveys (Schlumberger, 1912) and seismic surveys revolutionized oil and gas exploration. Reflection seismic was first tried by Dr. J. C. Archer in 1921 in Oklahoma. It was used to discover oil near Seminole, Oklahoma in 1928 as you can see in figure 3.

Figure 3, source here.

Each of these technologies allow oil and gas to be found and produced that could not have been found before. Other significant discoveries include the Hughes tri-cone drilling bit, patented by Howard Hughes Sr. in 1909. (figure 4).

Figure 4, source Texas Monthly.

That bit allowed wells to be drilled deeper and faster, greatly accelerating field development. These early discoveries were followed by the invention of water flooding old fields, the invention of modern well logging tools in the 1950’s and 1960’s to better assess the production potential of wells, the development of CO2 flooding (1970’s), 3D seismic surveys (1964), horizontal drilling (1980’s) and most recently widespread unconventional shale oil and gas wells (late 1990’s).

At every stage of technology development, it seems, someone says we are going to run out of oil and gas. Near the end of the “drilling surface oil seeps period” in 1885, when it was getting harder and harder to find more oil, the Pennsylvania state geologist proclaimed (according to Daniel Yergin’s The Quest):

“… ‘the amazing exhibition of oil’ was only a ‘temporary and vanishing phenomenon – one which young men will live to see come to its natural end.’ “

That same year John Archbold (Rockefeller’s partner in Standard Oil), when he heard oil had been discovered in Oklahoma, said:

“Why, I’ll drink every gallon of oil found west of the Mississippi.”

Of course, not long after this, modern petroleum geology and Hughes’ famous tri-cone bit revolutionized the oil and gas industry and unimaginable amounts of oil and gas were discovered as a result. And, yes, quite a lot of the oil and gas was found west of the Mississippi River. We have no record of Mr. Archbold drinking any of it, however.

By the end of WW I, the world had entered what Daniel Yergin calls the “Oil Age” and everyone knew it. According to Yergin, Lord Curzon, Great Britain’s foreign secretary once said:

“The Allied cause [in WW I] had floated to victory upon a wave of oil.”

Between 1914 and 1920 the numbers of registered automobiles grew fivefold and the director of the US Bureau of Mines said:

“… the oil fields of this country will reach their maximum production, and from that time on we will face an ever-increasing decline.”

This led President Wilson to say:

“There seemed to be no method by which we could assure ourselves of the necessary supply at home and abroad.”

The entire world came to depend upon oil for its automobiles, trains, ships and for light at night. The Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor for oil, Hitler invaded Russia for oil, the US had a secure supply of oil and prevailed in WW II largely for that reason. What would the world look like today if Hitler had invaded and conquered Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan rather than try and take St. Petersburg and Moscow? Perhaps very different.

At the start of WW II yet another “end of oil” panic started, it even affected the US Department of the Interior which announced:

“American oil supplies will last only another 13 years.”

Then in 1949, the department announced:

“… the end of U.S. oil supplies is in sight.”

After WW II, the US could no longer produce enough oil and did became a net importer for the first time. This led to worries about supplies and, in response, strong alliances with the major Gulf states of Saudi Arabia and Kuwait were formed to ensure a supply. President Truman was not only worried about losing access to Middle Eastern oil, he was also worried about the Soviets taking over Middle Eastern oil fields, especially in Iran. As a result, he ordered a new plan to be developed, according to the Brookings Institution:

“It is no coincidence that much of the early preoccupation with the potential Soviet threat after the end of World War II centered on the remaining Soviet presence in Iran. But unknown to the public until the recent declassification of National Security Council documents (first uncovered by a reporter for the Kansas City Star, Steve Everly) was the extent of Truman administration concern about the possible Soviet takeover of the oil fields. Equally surprising was that the Truman administration built its strategy not so much on defending the oil fields in the face of a possible Soviet invasion, as on denying the Soviet Union use of the oil fields if it should invade.

The administration quickly developed a detailed plan that was signed by President Truman in 1949 as NSC 26/2 and later supplemented by a series of additional NSC directives. The plan, developed in coordination with the British government and American and British oil companies without the knowledge of governments in the region, called for moving explosives to the Middle East, where they would be stored for use. In case of a Soviet invasion, and as a last resort, the oil installations and refineries would be blown up and oil fields plugged to make it impossible for the Soviet Union to use the oil resources.”

However, the 1950’s saw an explosion of new oil and gas technology, not oil fields. Oil and gas exploration expanded worldwide, particularly offshore, and supplies were abundant until the early 1970’s when Middle Eastern politics caused supplies to tighten, resulting in severe oil shortages. Again, the cries that “the end of oil is near” were heard. This time led by an irascible geologist named Marion King Hubbert. In the late 1950’s, using novel mathematics, he predicted that US oil production would peak in the early 1970’s. The rapid growth in oil and gas technology in the 1950’s was slowing at this time and large discoveries had been made so prices were falling. They stayed low during the 1960’s and by the time of the 1973 Arab-Israeli war, supplies and demand were nearly balanced. These two events allowed the Gulf states to engineer a boycott. Then prices spiraled just as many North American conventional oil fields were on a decline. At the time, it looked like Hubbert was correct.

The late 1960’s and the early 1970’s were filled with ominous predictions, in 1972 the Club of Rome predicted oil and natural gas would run out by 1992, in 1968 Paul Ehrlich predicted “65 million Americans will die of starvation between 1980 and 1989.” In 1978, Glenn Seaborg, chairman of the Atomic Energy Commission wrote:

“We are living in the twilight of the petroleum age.”

With higher oil prices, new oil and gas technology was developed at a frenetic pace. The 1970’s and 1980’s saw the development and implementation of 3-D seismic, deep water drilling, CO2 flooding of old oil fields, horizontal drilling, coal-bed methane production, formation image logs, NMR logging and many other critical technologies. The mid 1970’s and the early 1980’s were a wonderful time to be in the business. The new technology worked well, a lot of oil and gas was found, too much as a matter of fact; and the industry crashed in 1986 with the world awash in oil. It took many years to use up the surplus.

Research did not stop during this period, but it did slow down. In particular, UPR (Union Pacific Resources) perfected drilling and hydraulically fracturing (“fracking”) horizontal wells in a Texas formation called the Austin Chalk. At the same time a small oil and gas company, Mitchell Energy, was developing novel methods of hydraulically fracturing shale reservoirs, in particular, the Barnett Shale in Texas. Mitchell was drilling vertical wells and completing them; but having a hard time making the wells “economic” or profitable. George Mitchell, the owner of Mitchell Energy, was a victim of the low oil prices (as low as $10/barrel) of the late 1990’s and had to sell his company to Devon Energy in 2001. At Devon they combined the horizontal well technology that they had in house, with the novel shale completion techniques developed at Mitchell and were very successful. And, lucky for them, oil and gas prices started to rise, making the technology even more profitable.

The early days of shale completions were slow going, but by about 2005 drilling and completion technology, new petrophysical well evaluation technology, micro-seismic technology and new 3D seismic interpretation techniques had matured and the resulting oil and gas discoveries were huge. Unconventional oil and gas (shale production) is very different from conventional oil and gas. Where conventional reservoirs are small and hard to find, but very high permeability (meaning high oil and gas flow rates per foot of reservoir in the well), unconventional “resource” plays are enormous and cover huge areas, but very low permeability. We know where they are, the work is in figuring out how to drill and complete the wells in a profitable way. The author worked as a shale petrophysicist for Devon Energy and saw that it takes four or five wells (minimum) just to figure out if a shale play will work, sometimes more.

It took 17 dry holes and $10,000,000 for Harold Hamm and Continental Resources to figure out how to drill and complete a profitable well in the prolific Bakken Shale. He didn’t drill all of those wells to find the oil, he knew the oil was there, he drilled them to figure out how to successfully place the well in the formation and complete (“frack”) the well. Today, based on what he learned, we could do it with one well. It’s much more a science and engineering problem than an exploration problem. But, the technology worked and once again we are awash in oil and prices are low. It will continue to work and the technology will spread overseas, greatly increasing global production. As Daniel Yergin points out in The Quest:

“Hubbert got the date right, but his projection on supply was far off. Hubbert greatly underestimated the amount of oil that would be found – and – produced in the United States. By 2010 U.S. production was four times higher than Hubbert had estimated- 5.9 million barrels per day versus Hubbert’s 1971 estimate of no more than 1.5 million barrels per day.”

A comparison of actual oil production versus a version of Hubbert’s curve is shown in figure 5 (slightly different from the one Yergin used):

Figure 5, source

Technically Recoverable Reserves

So clearly Hubbert’s Malthusian curve did not predict oil supply correctly, new technology has allowed us to tap into oil that was not part of the potential supply when he did his calculation. Paul Ehrlich’s ominous 1968 prediction in The Population Bomb that 65 million Americans would starve to death in the 1980’s was incorrect for the same reason. He could not have predicted the green technology revolution that included natural gas based fertilizer (the Haber-Bosch process) and Nobel Prize winner Norman Borlaug’s new hybrid strains of wheat, rice and corn. Some might say, well Hubbert was wrong then; but what about tomorrow? Isn’t oil still a finite resource? Let’s examine that idea. Table 1 shows a rough estimate of the technically recoverable reserves of oil and gas known today, using only known oil and gas technology. More deposits will obviously be found and technology will improve in the future.

Table 1

The reserve estimates are in billions of barrels of oil equivalent. NGL and oil volumes are presented as is and natural gas is converted to oil-equivalent using the USGS conversion of 6 MCF to one barrel of oil. The table includes the “proven” worldwide oil, gas and NGL reserves from BP’s 2016 reserves summary. It also includes the 2012 USGS estimate of undiscovered “conventional” oil and gas reserves fully risked, the EIA estimate of unconventional shale oil and gas reserves, and the IEA oil shale (kerogen) and oil sands (bitumen) reserve estimates. Our estimate of 1,682 BBOE in world-wide unconventional shale oil and gas reserves is lower than the IEA estimate of 2,781. The spread in these estimates gives us an idea about how uncertain these numbers are. Our estimate of 781 BBO in oil sand bitumen reserves is lower than the IEA estimate of 1,000 to 1,500 BBO. So, please consider this table very conservative.

The USGS also has a report on oil shale “in-place” kerogen volumes here with different numbers. “Shale oil” is actual oil trapped in shale, for example the Bakken in North Dakota or the Eagle Ford in Texas. “Oil shale” is different, it is kerogen (not oil) trapped in a shale, an example is the Green River Formation in Colorado. Oil shale has been mined in several places around the world since the 1830’s. Shell has completed a pilot production operation, in the Green River oil shale in the Piceance Basin, in Colorado; that proved oil shale could be produced in an environmentally friendly and economic way. They estimate the Green River oil shale could ultimately produce 500 to 1,100 billion barrels of recoverable oil using their technique. Compare that to the 1,242 billion barrel estimate in table 1.

Oil sands are normally estimated separately because they are very heavy oil (bitumen) and sometimes mined, rather than produced with wells. Oil sands were produced in China 800 years ago. The most famous oil sands are those in the Athabasca region of Alberta, Canada. They produce economically from a variety of techniques. About 20% of the production is from surface mines and 80% is from in-situ steam flooding.

Using the BP world-wide annual oil and gas consumption rate for 2015 of 151 million barrels of oil-equivalent per day, the table calculates how many days and years each supply will last. These are “technical reserves” and price is not a factor in their calculation, except for the “proven” category. The total reserve is eight trillion barrels of oil-equivalent for the whole world and a supply that should last at least 148 years. The reserve is very conservative since it only relies on existing technology, remember only 132 years ago, a partner in Standard Oil proclaimed he would drink every gallon of oil found west of the Mississippi! It was innovative oil and gas technology that found billions of barrels of oil-equivalent west of the Mississippi. What will we invent and discover over the next 132 years? Consumption of oil and gas will probably increase over the next 25 years according to ExxonMobil’s 2017 Outlook. This is because they do not expect renewables and nuclear to increase in capacity as fast as demand will grow. But, for simplicities sake, I assumed oil and gas consumption would stay flat for this table.

The moral of the story? Never underestimate the ingenuity of mankind and never assume that technology is static. Also, the resources that technology recognizes today are not all the planet’s resources. There is oil west of the Mississippi!

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February 17, 2017 9:20 am

Never underestimate the ingenuity of mankind. Indeed.

Reply to  Max Photon
February 17, 2017 9:21 am

… unless they’re liberals …

Reply to  Max Photon
February 17, 2017 9:32 am

….and advocacy groups

Reply to  Max Photon
February 17, 2017 8:13 pm

Actually, I find liberals to be very ingenious. Problem is, all this liberal ingenuity seems to be directed into illegal, inane and nefarious activities.

Reply to  Max Photon
February 17, 2017 8:47 pm

…which in turn, they project onto conservatives who generally do not engage in such activities to the extent found in liberals.

J Mac
Reply to  Max Photon
February 17, 2017 10:04 pm

“It isn’t so much that liberals are ignorant. It’s just that they know so many things that aren’t so.”
Ronald Reagan

Reply to  Max Photon
February 17, 2017 10:52 am

Peakless oil!!!!

Reply to  TG
February 17, 2017 5:50 pm

When will we reach peak peaks?

Reply to  TG
February 17, 2017 7:59 pm

More precisely, multi peak oil.

J Mac
Reply to  TG
February 17, 2017 10:05 pm

Let’s have another peak at oil…..

Jaye Bass
Reply to  Max Photon
February 17, 2017 11:50 am

Never under estimate the wrongness of anything Paul Ehrlich says.

Reply to  Jaye Bass
February 17, 2017 1:32 pm


Reply to  Max Photon
February 17, 2017 1:17 pm

I am currently involved in a private, lignite business that separates hydrocarbons from Gippsland lignite.
The process I invented is currently achieving a volatiles separation of greater than 12% hydrocarbons by raw weight from lignite (11 BOE/ton of ROM pad lignite). This is not a chemical process, it uses inexpensive, benign solvents. Hydrocarbons are trapped in the lignite pores.
It is inexpensive, uses small amounts of energy and is easily scalable as an on surface, batch system. It could also be scaled into a continuous process or done in-situ at depths that cannot affect any aquifers.
Petcoke derived from Canadian tar sands is under test using the same solvents. The test aim is to remove sulphur compounds and volatiles to 1%. Results are encouraging.
Solvents used are inexpensive, reusable and benign. There is no added chemicals remaining in the processed coal or in solution in water from the coal. This is a low energy input process.
The major on surface, plant components can be easily moved from pit to pit as suitable coal is depleted.
Raw lignite in Victoria consists of 20% volatiles, 20% carbon, 60% water. The volatile percentage by raw weight does not vary much across the Gippsland Basin. The removal of much of the water and volatiles makes this an inexpensive metallurgical coal with low sulphur and heavy metals content. The remaining carbon becomes hydrophobic.
More energy intensive processing will get a very high percentage of carbon (99.9%) that could be used to make other products, such as very large, power station scale batteries, supercaps and eventually replace many aluminium and high tensile steel products etc. The solvent process can be used on graphite to remove organic impurities or as part of a process to make graphene.
There is 395 Billion tons of suitable lignite on land in Victoria and 1,200 Billion tons under eastern Bass Strait. A similar resource exists in Germany. There are many other suitable, easily mined deposits not counting worldwide peat resources (10% hydrocarbon by weight), tar sands and plants.
The idea that we are going to run out of inexpensive hydrocarbons anytime in the next 20,000 years is stupid. A fantasy promoted by banksters, politicians and weak minded Gaia zealots lead by the former. CO2 toxicity is promoted by rent seekers. Its even possible to derive hydrocarbons from CO2 on a renewable basis. Such a process means that our planet would NEVER run out of hydrocarbons.

Reply to  Geoff
February 17, 2017 2:36 pm

Keep up your good work!
And at the same time the Chinese are commercializing on the ground work done in US on atomic reactors!
Geopolitics in the future will be extremely interesting!

Alfred (Melbourne)
Reply to  Geoff
February 17, 2017 8:01 pm

I am in Williamstown/Melbourne and would like to know more. My email is anassim at gmail dot com

February 17, 2017 9:31 am

Thanks for an entertaining and informative read from downunder.

February 17, 2017 9:35 am

Oil’s well that ends well.

Reply to  JohnWho
February 17, 2017 9:57 am

Oil get you for that.

Mike Lewis
Reply to  MarkW
February 17, 2017 10:51 am

Oyl vey! Enough already!

Steve Keppel-Jones
Reply to  MarkW
February 17, 2017 11:16 am

Whale oil beef hooked!

Reply to  MarkW
February 17, 2017 1:20 pm

I’m gone now – “oil” be seeing you.

Reply to  MarkW
February 17, 2017 4:59 pm

It’s not an either oil situation.

February 17, 2017 9:37 am

I have seen estimates that old oil fields (even the some of the first ones in Pennsylvania) could produce an amount of oil equal to the original production volumes with CO2 flooding. It just hasn’t been economic to do that. But the oil is still there and can be produced when the need arrives.

Reply to  oeman50
February 17, 2017 9:39 am

To clarify, is IS economic in many fields with a ready source of CO2 and is being done today. But there is much more to be had.

Reply to  oeman50
February 17, 2017 9:40 am

..it IS….

Reply to  Andy May
February 17, 2017 12:27 pm

Educate us…why only CO2 and not air or nitrogen etc.??

R. Shearer
Reply to  Andy May
February 17, 2017 3:22 pm

Also, hydrocarbons are soluble in CO2 so the partition ratio into it is high. The partition ratio into N2 is low because vapor pressure of the hydrocarbons are low.

Unemployed Taxpayer
Reply to  Andy May
February 18, 2017 3:24 am

So now you know why some CEOs in the oil industry support the policy of a carbon tax.
20% to 30% more oil can be extracted by injecting CO2 into the reservoir.
CO2 is expensive.
The government pays for your company to use dangerous CO2 and put it underground.
Less business cost, more profit, what’s not to like?
Great way to do business, be a parasite!
Why don’t we all have subsidies from the tax payer?

Reply to  Andy May
February 18, 2017 9:49 am

Yes, Andy and David. And one way to get it where there are no natural sources is to strip it from the flue gas of coal fired boilers, like they are doing at the Petra Nova project in Texas. But…..it needs to depend solely on the economics of using unsubsidized CO2, which is not quite the case at Petra Nova. DOE kicked in a considerable sum of money to kickstart the technology. Notice any new such projects being announced? We are not at that stage, yet.

David L. Hagen
Reply to  oeman50
February 17, 2017 11:59 am

oeman50 CO2 can also recover oil from “Residual Oil Zones” (ROZ) – below (tertiary oil recovery) and to the side (quaternary oil recovery) of conventional oil fields. Between conventional CO2-EOR and ROZ EOR, CO2 with extensive horizontal drilling and some chemical enhancements can recover about as much as conventional primary oil production (pumping) and secondary oil recovery (water flood) – together.comment image
What is lacking is the available and cheap CO2.
See: CO2 & ROZ Conference Week Recap – Dec 6-8, 2016 – Midland, Texas

Dodgy Geezer
February 17, 2017 9:38 am

As usual, no one is mentioning Julian Simon at this point – though he is a major player in the game with his cornucopia theory.
Briefly, he points out that there will be oil available to us for as long as we want it, because human ingenuity will provide it. The thing driving oil extraction is demand. So long as demand is there, people will extract oil, and will do it at the lowest possible price. At some point in the near future, for instance, it will be profitable to gather hydrocarbons from the methane oceans of Titan. We can already get there, drop a probe, gather samples and return with current technology.
The only thing that would stop us using oil is the discovery of a better energy source – which we will do some day, again, using human ingenuity…

Reply to  Dodgy Geezer
February 17, 2017 12:14 pm

So long as demand is there, people will extract oil, and will do it at the lowest possible price.
Price is the key. Intelligence and innovation, the inexhaustible resource, is key to price.
Will we run out of oil? No.
Will it likely become more expensive as we use up the easy to get stuff and learn to use it more differentially? Yes.

Reply to  Dodgy Geezer
February 17, 2017 4:10 pm

Eventually that new energy source will happen. It may be much sooner than anyone expects. We will still need hydrocarbons for advanced chemistry to produce products yet envisioned like exotic chemicals, lubricants and new pharmaceuticals. The future is limitless.

Reply to  Dodgy Geezer
February 18, 2017 4:03 pm

He was a mainstream expert with correct analysis but trying to be heard among the din of non-experts of armchair energy. They still litter the landscape today but Simon’s work still stands and is carried on by Dan Yergin and others. Of course models and economics don’t work very well with the likes of Venezuela around.

maurice singleton
Reply to  Dodgy Geezer
February 20, 2017 7:41 am

There are also large deposits of methane hydrates on the ocean floor. As of now, there is not a commercially viable way to “mine” this resource, but my bet is that someone will figure it out.

Reply to  maurice singleton
February 20, 2017 2:45 pm

Japan achieves first gas extraction from offshore methane hydrate
A Japanese energy explorer said on Tuesday it extracted gas from offshore methane hydrate deposits for the first time in the world, as part of an attempt to achieve commercial production within six years.
Since 2001, Japan, which imports nearly all of its energy needs, has invested several hundred million dollars in developing technology to tap methane hydrate reserves off its coast that are estimated to be equal to about 11 years of gas consumption.

China and India Exploit Icy Energy Reserves
China and India have reported massive finds of frozen methane gas off their coasts, which they hope will satisfy their energy needs. But environmentalists fear that tapping these resources could have adverse effects on the world climate.


February 17, 2017 9:40 am

If so much oil was recently discovered in Texas, the aging ‘mother of the US oil production’, perhaps Rex Tillerson may have known some known unknowns about what might be found under the permafrost of huge Siberia’s expanse.

Reply to  vukcevic
February 17, 2017 11:13 am

The Permian Basin oil has been known for a century. What is new is our ability to horizontal drill/frack the several source rock shales in the basin. Upward revisions in that TRR (from zero before the technology was developed) are based not on finding new rock, but on improved recovery factors. There are three contributors. First, closer lateral spacing, as the cannibalism concerns are better understood geologically. That means more rock is tapped. Second, plug and perf replacing sleeve perf, which provides more fracks per lateral distance. Again, more rock tapped. Third, more proppant, which improves recovery per frack. What was a 1.5% recovery factor of OIP is now maybe 3%.

Reply to  ristvan
February 17, 2017 1:04 pm

Only 3% recoverability? Does this not auger well for the future given that recoveries should improve with continued innovation?

Reply to  ristvan
February 17, 2017 3:43 pm

Tim, no. The average recovery factor for conventional oil (the 2008 IEA survey) is only ~35%. And that is from reservoirs with orders of magnitude higher porosity and permeability. And that recovery factor has improved a grand total of 24% in the last half century, thanks mainly to tertiary CO2 injection into lower API conventional crude fields like Wayburn (in my books as an exeample). Even Ghawar, mightly light sweet crude with ‘easy’ water flood, will only recover ~65%.

Reply to  ristvan
February 20, 2017 1:04 pm

Good point – the article is misleading. New deposits of this size haven’t been found in decades, only better extraction methods. They are very good at finding deposits and if they can’t find oil, then shale oil is almost definitely not there.

February 17, 2017 9:41 am

While the post if, of course, correct, there is a simpler way to see this. The peak oil debate results from incorrect framing of geology.  The key fact about mineral resources:  there is an inverse relationship between quantity and quality of mineral resources.  Low quality deposits are more common than high quality deposits.  Over time, the marginal barrel of oil (or ton of copper) becomes more expensive to extract (i.e., more in some combination of capital and operating costs for mines). This is offset by two additional factors.
(1) Ongoing exploration of the world, finding new deposits. This is a one-time process, which eventually will end.
(2) new technology, which has two effects. First, it allows tapping and refining previously unreachable resources (e.g., deepsea oil). Second, it reduces the cost of extracting and refining mineral resources — making uneconomic resources into useful ones (recycling gold tailings)
The bottom line: the long term prices of minerals are difficult to predict, and we’ll never “run out” of any minerals (although the price might increase).
All of this has been known for generations. It’s clearly described in Sir Ronald Prain’s 1975 classic Copper: The anatomy of an industry (see chapter ten — “The Future”, pp 267 – 280). See the relevant excerpt here.

Reply to  Andy May
February 17, 2017 2:05 pm

And “all things being equal” never works in Earth Science.

Reply to  Andy May
February 17, 2017 10:01 pm

“All things being equal …”
I just read a story in a 1920 newspaper (they did interesting journalism back then) … The County surveyor asked for a raise to $5/day, and travel reimbursement of $0.12 per mile. So, in 100 years, salary has increased approximately 60X and mileage reimbursment has increased 5X.
few things remain comparitavely equal.
(story stats also indicate how efficient individual transportation has become in last 100 years, as compared to other costs)

Reply to  Editor of the Fabius Maximus website
February 17, 2017 1:08 pm

Could I suggest a number (3) in regards to higher prices? That would be substitution/replacement.

February 17, 2017 9:45 am

And just think, most of the world has not even attempted to produce their unconventional resources. The US is drilled like a pin cushion compared to even the other major petroleum regions on Earth. We’ll never run out before it’s obsolete.

george e. smith
Reply to  RWturner
February 17, 2017 10:50 am

Many thanx for the history lesson Andy.

george e. smith
Reply to  george e. smith
February 17, 2017 11:00 am

And thanx to RAH for his brief review of the history.
It must be at least 5 minutes since I read Andy May’s extensive exposition of the history.
Plenty of old news available here every day.

February 17, 2017 9:52 am

The claim that we are running out of oil is older than anyone alive today!! Just a brief overview of the history.
• 1857 — Romania produces 2,000 barrels of oil, marking the beginning of the modern oil industry.
• 1859, Aug. 25 — Edwin L. Drake strikes oil in Titusville, Pennsylvania
• 1862 — First commercial oil production in Canada, also 1863 in Russia.
• 1862 — Most widely used lamp fuel (camphene) taxed in US at aprox. $1 a gallon; kerosene taxed at 10 cent per gallon.(Kovarik, 1997)
• 1863 — John D. Rockefeller starts the Excelsior Refinery in Cleveland, Ohio.
• 1879 — US Geological Survey formed in part because of fear of oil shortages.
• 1882 — Institute of Mining Engineers estimates 95 million barrels of oil remain.With 25 million barrels per year output, “Some day the cheque will come back indorsed no funds, and we are approaching that day very fast,” Samuel Wrigley says. (Pratt, p. 124).
• 1901 — Spindletop gusher in Texas floods US oil market.
• 1906 — Fears of an oil shortage are confirmed by the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS). Representatives of the Detroit Board of Commerce attended hearings in Washington and told a Senate hearing that car manufacturers worried “not so much [about] cost as … supply.”
• 1919, Scientific American notes that the auto industry could no longer ignore the fact that only 20 years worth of U.S. oil was left. “The burden falls upon the engine. It must adapt itself to less volatile fuel, and it must be made to burn the fuel with less waste…. Automotive engineers must turn their thoughts away from questions of speed and weight… and comfort and endurance, to avert what … will turn out to be a calamity, seriously disorganizing an indispensable system of transportation.”
• 1920 — David White, chief geologist of USGS, estimates total oil remaining in the US at 6.7 billion barrels. “In making this estimate, which included both proved reserves and resources still remaining to be discovered, White conceded that it might well be in error by as much as 25 percent.” (Pratt, p. 125. Emphasis added).
• 1925 — US Commerce Dept. says that while U.S. oil production doubled between 1914 and 1921, it did not kept pace with fuel demand as the number of cars increased.
• 1928 — US analyst Ludwell Denny in his book “We Fight for Oil” noted the domestic oil shortage and says international diplomacy had failed to secure any reliable foreign sources of oil for the United States. Fear of oil shortages would become the most important factor in international relations, even so great as to force the U.S. into war with Great Britain to secure access to oil in the Persian Gulf region, Denny said.
• 1926 — Federal Oil Conservation Board estimates 4.5 billion barrels remain.
• 1930 — Some 25 million American cars are on the road, up from 3 million in 1918.
• 1932 — Federal Oil Conservation Board estimates 10 billion barrels of oil remain.
• 1944 — Petroleum Administrator for War estimates 20 billion barrels of oil remain.
• 1950 — American Petroleum Institute says world oil reserves are at 100 billion barrels. (See Jean Laherre, Forecast of oil and gas supply)
• 1956 — M.King Hubbard predicts peak in US oil production by 1970.
• 1966 – 1977 — 19 billion barrels added to US reserves, most of which was from fields discovered before 1966. (As M.A. Adelman notes: “These fields were no gift of nature. They were a growth of knowledge, paid for by heavy investment.”)
• 1973 — Oil price spike; supply restrictions due to Middle Eastern politics.
• 1978 — Petroleos de Venezuela announces estimated unconventional oil reserve figure for Orinoco heavy oil belt at between three and four trillion barrels. (More recent public estimates are in the one trillion range).
• 1979 — Oil price spike; supply restrictions due to Middle Eastern politics.
• 1980 — Remaining proven oil reserves put at 648 billion barrels
• 1993 — Remaining proven oil reserves put at 999 billion barrels
• 2000 — Remaining proven oil reserves put at 1016 billion barrels.
• 2005 — Oil price spike; supply restrictions and heavy new demand
• 2008 — Oil price spike; supply restrictions and heavy new demand, global economies collapse when oil reaches over $140 USD/bbl.
It is never ending BULL HOCKEY! Just like this guy was full of it with his turning the thermostats down and long gas lines:

Reply to  Andy May
February 17, 2017 12:44 pm

Your much welcome sir, and thank you for a great informative post.

Reply to  RAH
February 17, 2017 1:19 pm

Jimmy always was, and always will be, a Left Wing nutcase.

Reply to  Tim
February 17, 2017 2:49 pm

Left wing nutcase. Bit redundant, don’t you think?

Walter Sobchak
Reply to  Tim
February 17, 2017 3:13 pm

But, just wait. When Bambi gets warmed up, Jimmy is only going to be the second worst past president.

Reply to  Tim
February 18, 2017 3:53 pm

Or at least he was a puppet to all manner of nut case agendas and special interests. One political Party is very good at covering up its disasters. Look up G. William Miller if you want to see a Jimmy appointment disaster (for re-election purposes) that still does not get enough attention by historians.

David L. Hagen
Reply to  RAH
February 17, 2017 6:27 pm

RAH Please study particularly the famine and economic failure in North Korea from cutoff of cheap fuel on the fall of the USSR in 1991. Drawing Lessons from Experience; The Agricultural Crises in North Korea and Cuba — Part 1
Then consider the long term impacts of OPEC controlling > 40% of global oil production leading to the OPEC Oil Crisis of 1973/74, and the recent impact of > $100 / bbl oil spiking to $147/bbl. How long with cheap tight oil last?

Reply to  David L. Hagen
February 18, 2017 12:00 am

I would argue that though at the time OPEC did cut the flow of oil to the extent it damaged the economy of some of it’s oil customers, including the US, the gas lines were a direct result of the Federal government attempting to control price. Wage and price Controls first implemented by Nixon and used by Carter and THAT was the key factor that led to gas lines, stagflation, and the “economic malaise” which characterized the Carter economy. The oil was there for the price, and it was a price that could have been paid in a free market with better results than what transpired. We tried not to pay it with terrible results for our economy and Carters energy address was a flat out wrong as history has more than adequately demonstrated.
I would also argue that the way Carter handled the situation, trying to direct it by central planning instead of allowing the US economy to adapt on it’s own, had many other long term side effects. Effects like the great increase in foreign automobiles, particularly those from Japan, gaining a great deal of market share in the US market much earlier and quicker than they otherwise would have. That combined with the dumping of Japanese steel on the US and world markets had a terrible effect on the US steel industry.

David L. Hagen
Reply to  RAH
February 18, 2017 9:05 am

Consequent to OPEC’s ’73/74 Oil War, Denmark moved from ~80% oil to ~80% gas, US from oil to coal, France from oil to nuclear, (and Nepal to Hydro). Those massive shifts with increased oil exploration due to high prices caused major reductions in oil demand with higher production and a subsequent oil “glut” – which seriously harmed the oil industry until demand increased with population to where OPEC again began to influence pricing. etc.
Re: “the gas lines were a direct result of the Federal government attempting to control price. ” ?????
Look at the data and the IMMEDIATE impact of OPEC’s Oil War/oil cutoff to US and Denmark. US imports plummeted 46%from 115,905 bbl/d to 62,940 bbl/d. The lines were NOT due to stagflation but to immediate shortages without excess capacity or storage. Total US oil Supply dropped 20% from 401845 bbl/d to 318922 bbl/d! – between Oct. 1973 and Feb. 1974. Look at the impact of the far greater loss of oil to the North Korean economy. They lost the diesel to take the coal from the mines to the fertilizer plants – losing about 74% of fertilizer – and consequently their agricultural production – with consequent famine!

Reply to  David L. Hagen
February 18, 2017 12:10 am

BTW at that time I was a kid attending IU in Bloomington, IN and driving a Chevy Nova with a hopped up 396, positrac rear end, Hurst 4 on the floor, etc. A real hot rod that my girl friend couldn’t drive because the pedal pressure required to operate the heavy duty clutch was just too much.

Reply to  David L. Hagen
February 18, 2017 12:31 am

I don’t know how long cheap oil will last. And I don’t know how much extractable oil there is from all sources on this earth unlike some who to this day pretend to have such knowledge despite the lessons of history.
What I do know is that history demonstrates that when governments become involved in central planning and trying to force the direction of industries, including energy, it generally leads to terrible waste and ineffective solutions. I do know that the killing of coal has greatly damaged our economy for example.

Reply to  RAH
February 17, 2017 8:54 pm

Memory serves, it was during the Carter administration that one of the car magazines — probably Motor Trend or Car And Track — did a list somewhat like yours, although I believe it was a whole series of people predicting we’d be out of oil in the next decade, starting with a quote from the late 1800s and ending with someone current.
OTOH, last summer my dad told me about a fair he went to as a teen, when he saw someone driving an electric tractor that the announcer said would “be in production in the next decade, and replace gas powered ones shortly after that.” (Dad was interested because grandpa lost his hearing after driving tractors all that time, and the electric one was quiet.)
We’ve been a decade away from both running entirely out of oil, and replacing all those evil gas-powered vehicles with electric ones, for more than my entire lifetime, and yet neither one of them ever really happens.

Reply to  Hobbitess
February 18, 2017 2:25 am

I don’t even remember the source of that list. It is one of those things I came across years ago and saved and have posted several times at different blogs when a discussion about oil reserves comes up.

dan no longer in CA
Reply to  Hobbitess
February 18, 2017 10:34 am

I was a nerd kid when I built an electric bicycle in 1969 and have been following electric vehicles since. My opinion then has remained unchanged, which is that electric vehicles will happen on a mass scale when battery technology and price become competitive. I think the Lithium battery is the technology needed (lead-acid just doesn’t work, which is the real reason for the failure of GM’s EV1 car) but the price is still too high. Tesla cars are nice, but have been too expensive to go mainstream. The Chevy Bolt has a 230 mile range, but still priced 50% higher than comparable IC engine cars. They have large subsidies to make them somewhat competitive (e.g. the $7500 IRS deduction to buyers, and Tesla got $139 Million last quarter selling pollution credits). I also like the Zero electric motorcycle, but again, it’s priced at 50% more than comparable IC engine bikes. Tesla thinks they can reduce battery price by integrating a large battery factory…. and we’ll see how well that works in another year. But to address Hobbitess’ comment, the biggest tractor that I know of is a battery electric lawn mower.

February 17, 2017 9:54 am

I never knew that “oil shale” and “shale oil” were two different things.

Reply to  MarkW
February 17, 2017 9:59 am

oil shale is the source, and shale oil is the product.

Reply to  wws
February 17, 2017 10:07 am

Not quite. Both oil shale and shale oil formations are generally source rocks.
Oil shale is a shale, marl or other sedimentary rock loaded with kerogen and other solid bituminous material. Shale oil is conventional oil produced from shale and other impermeable sedimentary rocks.
The Bakken and Eagle Ford (shale oil) were the source rocks for many of the conventional reservoirs in their respective basins.
The neat thing about horizontal completions and fracking is the ability to produce from the traditional source rocks. It more or less eliminates exploration risk.

Reply to  MarkW
February 17, 2017 10:01 am

One is oil and the other isn’t. In the case of the Green River oil shale, it’s technically neither oil nor shale.

David L. Hagen
Reply to  David Middleton
February 17, 2017 3:15 pm

Better to call them “Tight oil” and “kerogen” to avoid confusion.

February 17, 2017 9:57 am

Good paper, although I think Hubbert deserves a little bit better press than he’s given. There was nothing wrong with Hubbert’s predictions at all if you add the caveat, “Under current technology”.
At a time when other geologists were predicting a straight line increase on into the future, Hubbert actually made an incredibly accurate prediction for the next 40 years. The problem came when others, coming after Hubbert, bought into his work so completely that they never bothered to understand the assumptions it was based on.
I’m a big fan of Nick Taleb’s work, and one of his key themes is that *all* long term predictions are unreliable, because those things which have the biggest impact on the long term are precisely those things which could never have been reliably predicted.
For a rather trivial but topical example, how many people in 2009 would have predicted that Donald Trump would be the next President after Obama?

Reply to  wws
February 17, 2017 10:03 am

Hubbert’s equation is just fine. He just underestimated the total recoverable resource.

David L. Hagen
Reply to  David Middleton
February 17, 2017 6:56 pm

David Middleton – Economist James Hamilton clearly shows conventional crude oil production has peaked in each US State except Montana/North Dakota. A similar process will likely occur with for tight oil in each state. Oil Prices, Exhaustible Resources, and Economic Growth. Thus far better to model as Multi-Hubbert with a separate peak for each region and type of resource.

Reply to  David Middleton
February 18, 2017 3:47 pm

Hubbert was using well data that no longer translates to horizontal shale development. It’s not just a another dimension, it is a different kind of target and resource altogether and different success rates.

Reply to  wws
February 17, 2017 8:04 pm

Who would have predicted a Trump presidency?
You mean besides the writers of The Simpsons, Oprah Winfrey, Howard Stern, Ronald Reagan, and Trump himself?

February 17, 2017 9:58 am

This is another good installment in the ongoing oil education effort.
I just wanted to add a few points to round out the exercise.
1) It is the free capital markets and depth of capital that produced the condition in the U.S. of more dry holes than any other place on earth in the era of vertical drilling that Hubbert worked with statistically. (You would be surprised by the numbers of students that think the U.S. grew because of being blessed by chance in abundant resources or that slavery did it or that this or that accounted for it.) That deep capital market and free flow of investment decision making also unleashed the whirlwind when the tech model of completing the shale wells was established. Fortunately it was under privately held land or it might not have happened at all.
2) The shale revolution has also altered the economies of the world by taking oil off the list of risk factors for recessions in major economies. It is now essentially a just-in-time sector as compared to the 10-year adjustment process of offshore drilling programs. Therefore the historic pattern of economic cycles with significant numbers of oil shocks in the record is now out the window. The stock market may still boom and bust but the externality of oil shocks is over.
3) Renewable energy tech and oil tech will grow alongside each other in a more stable economic expansion path. We just don’t need to force feed the renewable demonstration projects and worst of breed highest cost versions of renewables with current tax incentives and agency waste. This is where the “c” word needs to be repeated over and over again in the face of advocates. It is cost.

February 17, 2017 9:59 am

Nicely done.
Folks tend to miss that reserves are price dependent. Raise the price, you get more reserves (without doing ANYTHING else…)
Also forgotten is that as price rises, new technologies (or old technologies that were too costly) become productive to exploit the more diffuse resource. So much more natural supply becomes reserves. You see this in oil where as the conventional oil dropped in supply, price rose, and the more diffuse resource of shale oil and oil shale become worth exploiting. We knew that oil was in that deposit, but it “didn’t exit” for use as a reserve until the price rose enough to fund that technology.
As diffuse resources are exponentially more than concentrated resources, this has an exponential impact on supply. This is a Very Important Thing.
Take Uranium as an example. The economic land based reserves at present prices are good for maybe a few hundred years. The economic land based reserves at reasonable prices are good for about 10,000 years. But raise the price to about 4 x present levels, and an already established technique for harvesting U from the ocean kicks in and we have millions of years of supply available. That price is still ‘way cheap’ for the energy delivered. There is exponentially more U in the highly diffuse resource of the ocean, and not much price rise needed to turn it into a reserve.
Which brings up the point that there is “oil as energy source” and there is “oil as fuel supply”. We can manufacture oil from any carbon source. Even plants and garbage. Once the price is about $100 / bbl.
Similarly, folks like to float the EROEI canard. Energy Return On Energy Invested. This ignores that the oil is not just wanted for an energy source, but as a FUEL and that fuel value is high… So we can run electric oil well pumps and steam generators to lift oil to make it into motor fuel long after that oil takes more energy to lift than is in the oil because Nuclear is unlimited and turning it into motor fuel is valuable. There is roughly as much oil left in the ground as is pumped out of it in established fields, all of it available to future lifting technology and future negative energy cost lifting.
Note that every oil refinery runs at a negative EROEI yet we don’t shut them down. It is the FUEL that is the value, not the crude oil
So sometime a few hundred years from now, when oil production goes into negative EROEI and supplies are running low, we will start converting nuclear power into motor fuels via a variety of means, that can well include nuclear electric oil pumping, refining, and fuel production.

Reply to  E.M.Smith
February 17, 2017 2:02 pm

Note that every oil refinery runs at a negative EROEI
I like this observation.
It isn’t the Energy. It is the FORM of the stored energy.

Reply to  Stephen Rasey
March 1, 2017 5:42 am

1. EROI is a lifecycle calculation. It is well above 10:1 for the full path from crude oil to refined petroleum fuel. Of course, each step in a lifecycle process consumes some useful energy and increases entropy. So the observation that a refinery has a less than unity EROI is hardly worth stating,
2. It is the full path to the end fuel, not just the “form” of the end fuel that matters. One can produce ASTM spec gasoline from pulp wood (or any carbohydrate feedstock), but it is exquisitely expensive and has a huge negative energy balance. That gasoline is not economically or energetically viable, while the exact same formulation made from crude oil is.

dan no longer in CA
Reply to  E.M.Smith
February 17, 2017 6:52 pm

Agree, but we will also see a significant quantity of battery powered cars being recharged by nuclear generated electricity. Plug-in cars just last year passed the 1% of total market sales, and there are 60 large nuke power plants currently being constructed around the world.

Reply to  E.M.Smith
February 17, 2017 8:14 pm

Everywhere we look we see energy on scales so titanic and in amounts so vast the mind boggles, and yet people worry about running out of energy.
No chance of that.
The big danger is that we somehow lose the ability to use technology.

February 17, 2017 10:05 am

Asking will we run is not the most important question. It is far more important to focus on the cost of the fuels that we need to run our economy and our lives.
This is because our biosphere is literally awash in hydrocarbons from which these fuels can be refined. People do not buy oil. In fact, it is very difficult for a person to buy a gallon of crude oil. But it is as easy as pie to buy a gallon of gasoline or diesel fuel. These are each highly technical products that are currently made by rearranging the atoms and molecules found in crude oil. But these products could also be made from the oils found in whales, or soybeans.
So as crude oil becomes more expensive to extract, then other hydrocarbon feedstocks will be able to compete. In a free market there will always be substitution. The main issue is the price. We will always have all the gasoline we care to purchase even as we may no longer decide that we like the price. That is unless government intervenes and ruins the free market like it has done so many times in the past.

Reply to  buckwheaton
February 17, 2017 10:16 am

I’ve got an interesting book from the ’70s oil embargo days. VW did a study on future fuel supply. They found that coal to methanol conversion was economical using nuclear process heat at about $2.70 per gallon of gasoline equivalent (IIRC it was 50 ¢ / gallon of methanol at that time).
Mobile Oil developed a process using a zeolite catalyst for turning methane and methanol into gasoline.. (Used in New Zealand who had a big off shore gas field, but little oil).
Marry those and you get effectively unlimited gasoline supply using most any carbon source, and at prices below current sales prices in Europe (that are mostly taxes) but a little above the present US price.
Several companies have technology to produce oil from coal, natural gas, and even garbage ( I’ve owned stock in some of them from time to time). This isn’t hypothetical, this is on the ground factories were built. Unfortunately, prices under $50 / bbl drove most of them into other businesses, but the technology still exists should we ever need it.
There is no shortage of oil. There is no shortage of fuels, and there never will be – as long as governments get out of the way…

Reply to  buckwheaton
February 17, 2017 11:38 am

BW, essay Bugs, Roots, and Biofuels does the necessary calculations based optimistically on the now failed KiOR process yield. The most the Earth could provide is about half of what is now consumed annually in liquid fuels. That includes sustainable logging of all wilderness everywhere. NPP*additional harvestable* conversion yield.

February 17, 2017 10:13 am

It isn’t about how much oil… it is about how much economically recoverable oil there is.
shale oil and oil from the arctic costs more to extract and oil companies will only extract it if the price covers their costs.
Demand must fall too: EVs are being sold in increasing numbers (and there are electric buses, methane powered trucks and hydrogen out there too).

Reply to  Griff
February 17, 2017 10:32 am

wow, you almost sound like a oil industry realist there, Griff! That’s what we’ve been saying all along!!!
You do know that methane is a hydrocarbon that comes out of wells just like oil, right? And that hydrogen, wherever its used, is just a derivative of methane (natural gas)? Because it’s too expensive to produce any other way,

Reply to  wws
February 17, 2017 8:48 pm

So true and gets at one of my pet peeves when people wax poetically about hydrogen fuel cell powered vehicles. The hydrogen comes from natural gas (CH4) produced by O&G wells, although if we had cheap enough electricity we could crack it from water.

Reply to  wws
February 18, 2017 8:29 am

I am a realist in all things… especially power production and climate change.
But no, hydrogen can now be made in power to gas units, using renewable (wind energy) when output high and demand low.
Quite a lot of this in Germany…
Though the hydrogen is as often pumped into the natural gas network as used in cars or trains.
Then there’s this production of hydrogen on trial basis for use in a steel plant:

Reply to  Griff
February 19, 2017 7:49 am

“I am a realist in all things… especially power production and climate change.”
More utter drivel.
You know less about climate science and power production than my cat – by several orders of magnitude.
Have you apologised to Dr. Crockford yet?

Crispin in Waterloo but really in Osh
Reply to  wws
February 18, 2017 10:09 am

Hydrogen as a fuel is a dumb and dangerous technology. It is far better to sew up the H with a bunch of nearly free carbon. Hydrogen walks through walls.
Ethanol fuel cells (ethanol to electricity) are a better bet. Cell phones have been created with a small tank containing a few drops of ethanol.
Hydrogen is a good rocket fuel, though.

Reply to  Griff
February 17, 2017 11:34 am

But costs and tech innovation in oil fields are not static. Productivity rates in energy extraction are some of the highest rates in the economy, unlike health services, educational services, and government. Again, you live in a bubble where cost does not exist and it warps you thinking and exaggerates your claims.

Dave in Canmore
Reply to  Griff
February 17, 2017 11:40 am

EVs are less than 1% of the global market. Increase or not, that isn’t affecting demand for oil. Disposable income has a far greater effect on oil demand.

Chris Hanley.
Reply to  Griff
February 17, 2017 11:55 am

“Demand must fall too …”.
Not will fall — but must fall.
There speaks a true statist.

A Day
Reply to  Griff
February 17, 2017 12:32 pm

I live smack dab in the middle of oil country here in W Texas. There’s oil under my property, my home, my barn. Frack drilling came to a halt when the price of crude dropped to under $30 year before last. But quickly resumed once it reached about $38. So the cost to produce is probably lower than the lowest when you factor out profit. The need to drill many holes has been replaced by drilling one hole every several miles then side drilling for miles. It cuts cost dramatically. Supply is still way above need and will more than likely continue that way for many many years as competition drills new and pumps out of old wells as soon as profit is possible. Incidentally, the technology just parks on the side of the road, lowers a plate to the ground underneath and sizes up the layer or layers for many miles in all directions. The technology is so good that accurate maps can and are produced showing the location of the various layers and their depths. Drilling occurs where 2 or 3 of these layers overlap (at different depths) which further reduces cost. (One hole, many side drilling tunnels, various depths). Fracking merely pumps high pressure water and granules into these wells to crack the shale deposits that contain the oil so the oil drips into the tunnels and one well, where it is then pumped to the surface. Natural gas is also collected at each vertical well. The granules basically hold the newly fracked cracks open so they cannot close back up and block the oil. And to the fellow that says you can’t buy crude oil:) I laugh. You can get it for free around here just for the asking. The real value comes after it is refined both at the well site as well as the refinery plant. As the oil comes to the surface it contains water and other debris. It is pumped into holding tanks with sight glasses to see the level of separation. Someone manually goes out to all these wells to open a valve and bleed off the water/debris mixture into another tank. Both the more pure crude and the water are transported by truck to appropriate locations. The waste is treated and released. The crude is stored in large above ground storage containers until needed by the refinery. There are companies that specialize in picking up the debris/water and treating it for release. There are companies that pick up the crude. Other companies that produce the refined products we use. And many independent drillers who compete with land owners to set up and drill. In just the last few years the industry has been transformed vastly. Fields full of well heads have been replaced with just one for many square miles. You can’t find them unless you know where to look. Environmental concerns are addressed as well with zero leakage into the earth. Lined catch ponds are used to house the well opening, storage tanks etc and are routinely inspected for problems. Well pump motors are 3 phase and placed on a timed switch to allow pumping only when there is enough oil to make the pump use worth moving. It is a very organized business with more economy coming all the time. Costs are going down, not up. Any effort to control the cost of fuel will soon find themselves awash in a glut of the stuff as there are many known reserves ready to be pumped (wells already in place). Well pumps are just switched off during dips in price to stabilize price. No cost is involved to sit on the reserves. With the new technology in production there are over 500 years of world consumption available just in this one (Permean Basin) deposit and more being discovered all the time. Don’t fret over future price gouging, lack of supply or any other concern regarding crude oil and it’s by-products. Only gov shut down or national disaster could affect any of this and even then it would be difficult.

Javert Chip
Reply to  A Day
February 17, 2017 1:14 pm

We need to show you how to make a paragraph.

Reply to  A Day
February 17, 2017 2:09 pm

The need to drill many holes has been replaced by drilling one hole every several miles then side drilling for miles.
Not quite. Best practice today is to build a drill pad of 30-40 acres from which 20 wells will be drilled directionally to space out each parallel horizontal leg is about 500 feet apart
“Two miles down, Two miles horizontal, twenty days. Repeat”
The drilling pads is a 400 day factory floor.

Reply to  A Day
February 17, 2017 2:10 pm

Addendum: From this drilling pad, you should be able to drill out and produce from about 4 square miles.

Chain Vara
Reply to  A Day
February 28, 2017 4:45 pm

A Day. Great post. Yes, costs are going down and it only takes 20 or so days to drill these wells, a few years ago, it took a month to 45 days.
Javert Chip: To coin a phrase, “Weee don’t need no stiiiiinkiiiing paragraphs” when we have a depth of knowledge like this.
Stephen Rasey: Not only 20 wells, tapping 4 sections, but that is assuming all 20 at a single depth. The Rail Road Commission is allowing stacked laterals (think layer cake with 20 straws stuck through one icing layer, repeated again and again at each layer of icing, creating a stack of straws, horizontally and vertically) so those 20 initial wells could grow.

Reply to  Griff
February 18, 2017 1:37 am

EV’s. Mmmm. Just where does the E for those V’s come from? Out of a plug in the wall??

Reply to  KO
February 19, 2017 7:53 am

Sunshine extracted from cucumbers, of course.
In GriffWorld, at any rate.

Reply to  Griff
February 19, 2017 7:47 am

“Demand must fall too”
More drivel.
BP disagree with you, out to 2035 at any rate.
Did anyone ever tell you that a 100% increase in Sweet FA is still pretty much Sweet FA? Because that’s where your precious ‘Unreliables’ are going.
As for China:
You’re going to be sleeping on that incontinence sheet for a few decades yet, skanky.
Tell us, have you apologised to Dr. Crockford yet?

Gary Pearse
February 17, 2017 10:17 am

“Finally, there is one other category, called “technically recoverable reserves.” This is the broadest category, it is simply an estimate of how much oil and gas can be produced using current technology, regardless of cost or profitability.”
This definition was coined by myself and co-author Gary Nash in ~1978 in a well received Canadian Institute of Mining and Metallurgy Bulletin (CIM bulletin) ‘debate’ series of discussion articles reviewing “reserves and resources” terminology (Reserves and Resources Expanded) of the time, which we found deficient for purpose. We were working for the the Canadian Gov. Energy Mines and Resources and were “spoken to” because this area wasn’t in our job description. This part of the discussion concerned the idea that looking at global resources and geopolitical aspects, what might be called reserves in the USSR and other parts of the world, might not qualifiy in North America. The idea was that what was important from an economic and global viewpoint for comparability was” what volume of resources could be produced using ‘todays’ extractive technology. The choice of how much could be produced at a given price was a derivative of this larger basic number. For governments during, say, wartime, how much can we get with a subsidy of such and such – a very practical matter, indeed.
The USGS was the first to respond, coming up with a substitue name “reserve base” and conveniently didn’t reference Gary’s and my work. Similarly, and with the same non- recognition of source, it was adopted by the UN and, I suppose other jurisdictions. We did get referenced in the text “Selected Readings in Mineral Economics” ten years later although of limited circulation (see first three or four chapters).
I’m pleased to lay claim to this important ‘modern’ idea for my friend and I here at WUWT.

Reply to  Andy May
February 17, 2017 2:10 pm

Contingent resource is kind of synonymous with technically recoverable reserves. We can’t actually book technically recoverable reserves because they are reserves under SEC rules. They are a contingent resource…

Contingent resources are those quantities of petroleum estimated, as of a given date, to be potentially recoverable from known accumulations, but the applied project(s) are not yet considered mature enough for commercial development due to one or more contingencies.

February 17, 2017 10:21 am

We will never run out of oil as long as the earth exists. It is simple economics. As less supply is provided at a certain price point, the price goes up. When the price goes up people consume less, when the price goes up a lot, people find alternative sources of energy, or alternative production methods. High prices a few years back brought us lateral drilling of shale deposits which brought us more oil and actually significantly lower prices. When oil gets to $250 per bbl, maybe electric cars will come in vogue, using atomic power, or hydro power as the base energy source, or maybe coal, which will be converted to oil, Natural gas to ethanol, etc.
So basically as supplies get more scare, price goes up, causing less purchase. At some point small amounts will be delivered and small amounts consumed.
When people say there is a shortage of something, it usually isn’t the case. Supply and demand balance out. What they mean is there is a shortage of the product, at the price point they would like see it at. There is a shortage of natural gas, we heard 10 years ago. But really it was a shortage of NG at the reporters predetermined favorite price of $1 per 100 CU. None of us actually ran out of natural gas. (house was cold though)

Reply to  marque2
February 17, 2017 10:23 am

The upshot is, you have to define what run out is, and it doesn’t mean that pumped supplies are going down. Is run out, defined as the point at which it is no longer economical to use oil to run cars? – as an example.

David L. Hagen
February 17, 2017 10:22 am

Andy May. Thanks for the review.
1) Please focus on and address the constraints of MAXIMUM production under “PEAK oil” – that is when the economic crunch hits – NOT when we “run out”. While peak production is nominally half of the full, the economic constraints disruptions begin at in rising inflection point when we can no longer grow as fast as desired.
Thus the need to focus on BEFORE the HALF the life of those amounts for the critical economic impacts or 25% – one QUARTER of those durations.
2) Please examine Multi-Hubbert type analyses. e.g., see Patzek: Peak, Peak What?
Reynolds 2013 World Oil Production Trend: How U.S. Shale Oil Production Changes the Trend
3) It often takes > 40 years for major energy technologies to penetrate. So we need to look at peak less 40 years to get started on sustainable replacement fuels- i.e. NOW.

Reply to  David L. Hagen
February 17, 2017 10:48 am

DH, agree. See more extensive comments below.

Reply to  David L. Hagen
February 17, 2017 11:13 am

David, believe it or not, with the right incentives $$$$$$ things can change a lot faster than you think or expect. Think of the internet, cell phones, etc. A free market will respond very quickly and as needed when it makes economic sense, IF governments do not put a stop to it. “So we” (as in governments) do not need to get involved at all. They need to stay out of the way, and not force a technology (wind and solar and bio-fuels) that does not make economic sense.

Reply to  David L. Hagen
February 17, 2017 11:32 am

When I was in graduate school for chemical physics, we learned that when it comes to analyzing empirical data curves, there are three kinds of liars: liars, damned liars, and ‘deconvoluters’. This chart on ‘world oil production trend’ from 2013 is in the ‘deconvoluter’ category. It predicts(?) the size and duration of a ‘Hubbert cycle’ beginning no earlier than 2015, peaking in 2035, and completing in about 2050. It wold seem that the source of the data for this cycle was a seance.

David L. Hagen
Reply to  tadchem
February 17, 2017 6:05 pm

tadchem having studied pchem, I find second order models by Patzek and Reynolds more insightful than your no order dart board model.

Bob boder
Reply to  David L. Hagen
February 17, 2017 1:47 pm

Remember “we can’t drill our way out of this””even if we start drilling now it would be twenty years before it had any impact and that impact will be very small”
For ten years I heard this on every news out let as a reason to not drill on government land. Oil was going to be $100 barrel plus forever, so said every liberal and there was nothing we could do about it.
Then N.D. Fields that the government couldn’t stop and in the blink of an eye $30 oil. OPEC in ruins and still the liberals found a way to screw up the world.

David L. Hagen
Reply to  Bob boder
February 18, 2017 9:08 am

US BLM controls 243 million acres in the West. Time to turn that back to the States.

February 17, 2017 10:24 am

Necessity is the mother of invention.

Reply to  Max Photon
February 17, 2017 10:34 am

NEWS: Senate confirms Scott Pruitt to lead Environmental Protection Agency

Neil Jordan
Reply to  Max Photon
February 17, 2017 6:26 pm

And laziness is the father.

February 17, 2017 10:32 am

As far as the need for oil as a combustible fuel for transportation, I only see its continued use
extending for airplane fuel beyond, say, the next 10 years or so. Electric cars are clearly coming into widespread, dominating use in the future and the dropping cost and improved performance of batteries is going to force that transition. Electric drivetrains are simply far more economical, maintenance free, cheaper to build and a WHOLE lot cheaper to repair. Every man his own mechanic is the way I see it.

Reply to  arthur4563
February 17, 2017 11:23 am

EVs make up a little less than 1% of the market share in the U.S. so I’d give it longer than 10 years.
Also, the real cost of driving an EV depends on local electricity costs, i.e. a 40 mpg ICE in Hawaii is actually cheaper to fuel than an EV at today’s gas/electric price. Spikes in electricity price are becoming common in places with a heavy investment in renewable energies, i.e. the $30/kWh spike in Brussels last week, $13+ spikes in Australia — that’d really hurt the wallet if charging EVs in that time.
The only reason EVs are even cost effective in much of Europe is due to the government incentives, including free charging stations. You don’t need a degree in economics to know that incentives won’t be sustainable if everyone were to actually were to use them. The latest EV test (BMW i3) on The Grand Tour clearly demonstrates the current impracticality of owning an EV for most consumers.
Ironically, the idea that fueling EVs is cheaper than modern ICEs hinges on electricity production from coal.

Reply to  arthur4563
February 17, 2017 12:16 pm

Great informative post and discussion !
I don’t see 18-wheelers , agricultural or industrial equipment shifting from petroleum for much longer than that . Nor for necessarily 4WD SUVs here where the next gas station to the north is ~ 75km away .
Electrics are great for commuting in Silicon Valley .

Kalifornia Kook
Reply to  Bob Armstrong
February 18, 2017 4:53 pm

Pretty much nailed it. As one who worked his way through college driving a semi interstate, and son of a trucker still driving at age 83, we follow truck tech. There is a company selling CNG-powered trucks, but to get customers, they offer on e year free fuel. Of course, that means your routes and destinations have to be regular and near known CNG stations.
And you have to be willing to spend 3 times the price of a similarly equipped and powered diesel.
No sight nor sound of electric semis.

February 17, 2017 10:36 am

This day needs to be marked in history as the the climate realists D-Day!
It is the Beginning of the End for the Warmist movement!

Reply to  wws
February 17, 2017 10:54 am

WWS This day will live in infamy.

Reply to  Russell
February 17, 2017 11:28 am
Reply to  Russell
February 17, 2017 12:48 pm

If they called on their office phones, during work hours, they have just nominated themselves to be the first ones let go.

Peta from Cumbria, now Newark
February 17, 2017 10:39 am

Is it true that there was a time, just after railroads were laid from East to West across the US, when those trains would stop upon sighting a herd of bison (buffalo)…
When they did, the train would stop and anybody/everybody on that train who had a firearm of any sort, would blast away at that herd until nothing was left standing.
This was OK because they were in the sure and certain knowledge that when the train next came along, there’d be another herd to ‘ entertain’ the passengers.
If that was really true and in conjunction with this article, we really should be scared sh1tless – carbon dioxide is the very least of our problems.

Reply to  Peta from Cumbria, now Newark
February 17, 2017 11:28 am

The idea was to get rid of the buffalo. Once their major resource was gone, the indians would compliantly move on to the reservations.

Joe Ebeni
February 17, 2017 10:41 am

I’ve been told you can see the rise and fall of oil prices by driving by an oil field and assessing how many pumps are working. Marginal wells pump at higher prices ….otherwise are shut down. True??

Reply to  Joe Ebeni
February 17, 2017 10:45 am

Only if you’re in a very marginal field, and even then it will change on a well by well basis. A well that is bringing up as much salt water as oil is a lot more expensive to operate than one that produces 90% oil, and that can happen on two wells that are side by side.

Reply to  wws
February 17, 2017 12:49 pm

I would have thought they cost about the same to operate, however the revenue from the first would be a lot lower.

dan no longer in CA
Reply to  Joe Ebeni
February 17, 2017 7:21 pm

You can walk around inside my house in the Permian Basin and see 8 pump jacks from my windows. Most (all?) of them run on start/stop cycles of about 10 minutes. They have various sensors to tell them when to start and stop. So, no, you can’t tell from driving through and seeing some running and some stopped. I don’t know when these particular wells were drilled (I’ve only lived here for a year) but there are several drill rigs within a few miles.

February 17, 2017 10:46 am

Two observations.
1.Green River kerogen will likely never be produced. Depending on production details, each barrel of resulting syncrude takes 3-5 barrels of water. The formation covers parts of three states, the ‘upper’ portion of the Colorado compact. The formation is named after the Green river that cuts through it, the major Colorado river tributary. All the water in the Colorado rivershed has been bespoke since the 1921 Compact, and the bespoke amount was overesrimated by about 15%. If Green River oil shale goes into any significant production, then prepare to abandon Phoenix, Las Vegas, and parts of southern California. Never going to happen. Water, not kerogen, was the reason Reagan stopped all federal Green River oil shale research.
2. Peak oil is not about running out. That is hundreds of years in the future because the production function is a gamma, not a logistic like Hubbert assumed. Decline of North Slope is a classic example. It is about the point where annual production can no longer be increased because declining fields outstrip new production. Global conventional oil peaked about 2008, conventional defined as API>10, reservoir pososity >5% and permeability >10 millidarcies. The 2008 IEA study of ~800 global fields including all supergiants and giants (producing >2/3 of all crude that year) showed an average decline in that sample of 5.1%/year. Samotlor is over 85% depleted. According to Aramco 2010, Ghawar after finishing the reworking of the Haradh sector for water flood has 14 years of remaining production at present rates or 38 at declining annual rates to control water cut.
So it is about the rate at which new conventional (deepwater, Arctic, Yamal) plus unconventional oil can be ramped to offset conventional decline plus any demand growth. That is a question both of geophysics and of economics. The Yamal giants and new deepwater Brazil subsalts) are both uneconomic until crude gets back above $100/bbl. So far, so good thanks to American horizontal drill/frack of shale oil.

Reply to  Andy May
February 17, 2017 2:13 pm

Yep. It won’t be easy… But a 1.4 trillion barrel contingent resource is too big to give up on.

Reply to  Andy May
February 17, 2017 5:37 pm

AM, I am happy to agree to disagree. A lot of that Green River water cannot be recycled unless costs go up hugely. The economic side of the geophysics equation.

David L. Hagen
Reply to  Andy May
February 17, 2017 5:38 pm

Andy May What evidence the Shell is now producing kerogen? Shell sold off its shale resources in 2013 taking a 60% hit.

Shell on Aug. 1 reported a 60 percent drop in second-quarter results — largely due to a $2 billion write-down of its North American shale assets due to “the latest insights from exploration and appraisal drilling results and production information.”

Environmental concerns over water table contamination required a protective “Ice dam” entirely surrounding the heating zone that was heated to 300 deg C with a 1 GW power plant heating the system for 5 years before revenue. The economics and risks did not work.

Reply to  ristvan
February 17, 2017 12:33 pm

Thanks ristvan! IMO the article was good – had lots of relevant information presented by someone with experience and technical knowledge of the field. Yet when it leaves out the critical information concerning decline in conventional production that you detail (I knew of without the details), it leaves me wondering why the author left it out? IIRC decline in 2008 -2010 was 4% in those coventional fields, now it is at 5%. Oil will not run out or end. Our ability to use it as the major source of energy to power human action on the planet will. Will another source of energy be integrated/found? Most likely. Will there be time to shift to that source without profound cultural, economic and enviromental dislocation? That is the question. And that is the real question behind the words “Will oil run out?

Reply to  les
February 17, 2017 3:59 pm

Les, you pose in one paragraph the question I posed in four of six chapters of Gaia’s Limits, and reframed in a number of Blowing Smoke essays two years later. Total of six years research, and still ongoing in a more relaxed ‘retired’ vein. See comment on Siluria and Fiskar Nanotech for hopeful tech innovation glimmers.

Walter Sobchak
Reply to  ristvan
February 17, 2017 3:18 pm

“prepare to abandon Phoenix, Las Vegas, and parts of southern California.”
Is that supposed to be a problem?

Kalifornia Kook
Reply to  Walter Sobchak
February 18, 2017 5:03 pm

As a Southern Californian who has been through several droughts, the loss of water from Colorado will be a hit to the pocketbook and somewhat to farming, but that’s about it. Even before this year’s near record rainfall, we brought online desalination plants in several major cities. They weren’t needed this year, nor next, so we’re pumping their clean water into lakes and reservoirs, and feeding cleaner water into the ocean from the rivers that drain those lakes. Contracts called for minimum buys. It’s not the worst idea. But more of that will happen if Green River requires more oil. There are lots of options.

David L. Hagen
Reply to  ristvan
February 17, 2017 6:09 pm

ristvan Here is a 2016 review on shale oil – kerogen. 2016 EMD Oil Shale Committee Final Report. Numerous efforts barely holding on ’till prices rise.

David L. Hagen
Reply to  Andy May
February 18, 2017 8:41 am

Andy May – Jordan is likely eager for any/all petroleum development and thus unlikely to throw up the barriers imposed by BLM/US environmentalists. Israeli’ environmentalists are worse than US – blocking the efforts by Harold Vinegar et al. to exploit Israel’s 250 BILLION bbl potential (as big as Saudi Arabia’s declared reserves.)

Beta Blocker
Reply to  ristvan
February 18, 2017 7:17 am

Rud Istvan: “1.Green River kerogen will likely never be produced. Depending on production details, each barrel of resulting syncrude takes 3-5 barrels of water. The formation covers parts of three states, the ‘upper’ portion of the Colorado compact. The formation is named after the Green river that cuts through it, the major Colorado river tributary. All the water in the Colorado rivershed has been bespoke since the 1921 Compact, and the bespoke amount was overestimated by about 15%. If Green River oil shale goes into any significant production, then prepare to abandon Phoenix, Las Vegas, and parts of southern California. Never going to happen. Water, not kerogen, was the reason Reagan stopped all federal Green River oil shale research.”
In the early 1980’s, I took a short break from working nuclear plant construction projects to do feasibility costing for Green River oil shale projects.
For feasibility planning purposes, two options for obtaining the necessary process water were being assumed. One option was to tap the Columbia River for the needed water and transport it south to Colorado using a long pipeline. The other was to construct a series of large-scale nuclear-powered seawater desalinization plants on the California coastline and pipe the water inland to Colorado, also using a large pipeline.
These cost studies indicated that a price of $80 to $100 a barrel stated in 1980 dollars was needed to generate a profit from Green River oil shale. Thirty-five years later, similar cost studies would put the price dramatically higher, owning to the fact that since the early 1990’s, the cost of constructing all large-scale industrial facilities here in the United States has proceeded at roughly twice the general rate of inflation.
The other major issue is the huge impact that oil shale mining activity would have on the Colorado and Utah landscapes. To get the required volumes of kerogen bearing source rock, a series of open pit surface mines would be needed on a scale that absolutely dwarfs anything ever seen in the mining industry.
Even if the capital could be found to build these oil shale mines and their associated kerogen processing facilities, the citizens of Colorado and Utah will never allow those mines to open. The citizens of the US Northwest will never allow the Columbia River to be tapped for large volumes of industrial process water. The citizens of California will never allow another major nuclear facility to be constructed their state, let alone a series of large-scale nuclear-powered seawater desalinization plants.
All in all, tapping the Green River Oil shale formation for any significant portion of future US oil production is a pipe dream, and in more ways than one.

John F. Hultquist
February 17, 2017 10:52 am

While hunting Whitetails in western Pennsylvania in the late 1950s, a couple of us would stop at an old well. It bubbled up water and gas and we would sit on a log and light matches from a “paper book” of them. The Burning match would light the gas above the water and there would be soft “woff” (?) as it ignited.
Every year for about 5 years we would ask the same questions: Would a buck come by while we were playing with matches? And: How long would that hole bubble up gas?

February 17, 2017 10:53 am

Yet as Donald Boudreaux, an economics professor at George Mason University, explained a couple of years ago, running out of oil “is not as much a question of physics as it is one of economics. And economics assures us that we will never run out of oil.”
Yes, never: “My colleague Russ Roberts explains why in his book The Invisible Heart. Imagine, Russ says, a room full of pistachio nuts. You love pistachios and can eat all that you wish as long as you throw each empty shell back into the room whenever you eat a nut. You might suppose that you’ll eventually devour all of the nuts in the room. Their number, after all, is finite. But…the more you eat…the more difficult it becomes to find uneaten nuts among the increasing number of empty shells. Eventually, it will not be worth the time and effort required to search amidst the empty shells for the relatively few remaining nuts. You’ll voluntarily leave uneaten pistachios in the room.”

Reply to  John
February 17, 2017 10:26 pm

Same for not popping all the bubbles in a sheet of bubble wrap.

John Hopkins
February 17, 2017 10:53 am

Thanks Andy. Great article.

February 17, 2017 10:58 am

Andy Oz ‏@AndyOz2 Feb 14
Personally I would love it if every single coal power plant shut down for a few days in Australia. Alarmism would end. https://twitter.com/AndyOz2/status/831745022630453248
I like it. For the US & Europe (especially Germany!).
Like #DayWithoutImmigrants we need #DayWithoutCoal!

Reply to  Eric Simpson
February 18, 2017 8:23 am

Well fortunately for you renewable energy experts are more responsible and only plan to turn stuff off when there’s a replacement.
The EU renewable electricity target is a realistic 80% in 2050

Reply to  Griff
February 19, 2017 7:58 am

“Well fortunately for you renewable energy experts are more responsible and only plan to turn stuff off when there’s a replacement.”
The current dire situation in South Australia, soon to be repeated in Ontario and probably next year in the UK too, demonstrates you to be lying in your teeth yet again.
Oh, and “renewable energy experts” is as big an oxymoron as you can get.

Jeff L
February 17, 2017 11:02 am

You are asking the wrong question.
The right question to be asking is “Can daily supply keep up with demand? … and at what price?”
Demand has been growing on average 1.1 MMBOPD/yr since the early 80’s & shows now signs of slowing down.
You might be interested this link :
EIA models US shale only adding ~ 6MMBOPD over next 10 years. Great … but good enough to keep up with demand ?? … and if so for how long ?? Other supplies are going to have to come to market to keep prices from skyrocketing (and other energy sources becoming economically competitive) , which is going to take a level of investment not currently seen in the industry.
Again, the key question isn’t will we run out but can we keep up with demand ?
Also of interest & relevant to this discussion :
Not a surprise to those of us with knowledge of the play. The initial press releases could be characterized as “fake news” – we certainly did when it came out. There are a couple other “big discoveries” that were announced last year which fall into that category but I will let you do the homework to figure out which ones.

R. Shearer
Reply to  Jeff L
February 17, 2017 3:45 pm

Not true. Demand is growing at about half that rate on average and it shows slowing and spurts that correspond to economic recession.

Jeff L
Reply to  R. Shearer
February 17, 2017 4:24 pm

You are wrong. Down load the data from EIA & do the math yourself.
1.07 MMBOPD/yr since 1980; R^2 = 0.97 …. and we are currently above trend

Reply to  R. Shearer
February 17, 2017 10:28 pm

wrt EIA data … “all else being equal”

Reply to  Jeff L
February 19, 2017 8:00 am

“Not a surprise to those of us with knowledge of the play”
Which clearly excludes you…

Robert Young
February 17, 2017 11:13 am


February 17, 2017 11:19 am

I didn’t know Yogi Berra was Danish.

Reply to  Michael Palmer
February 17, 2017 11:50 am

I believe he had one every morning.

Reply to  MarkW
February 17, 2017 12:44 pm

Aah. That explains it.

February 17, 2017 11:32 am

The United States has 36 billion barrels of oil in proven reserves. We use 19 million barrels per day. If we were to become “energy independent,” we deplete this reserve in 5.2 years. The U.S. Energy Information Administration estimates that we have another 198 billion barrels of technically recoverable oil in the US. However, much of it is considerably more expensive to extract, transport and refine than today’s conventional oil in proven reserves. It also has a much greater environmental impact in terms of land use, fracking, strip mining of oil shale, etc. Assuming we could recover the entire 198 billion barrels while remaining energy independent, we would use all our recoverable oil up within 36 years. That brings us to 2053.
In 2015, the U. S. imported approximately 9.4 million barrels per day of petroleum from about 88 countries. To make America “energy independent” we would have to double our U.S. oil field production from the peak oil production rates of 1971.
Worldwide we have 1,663 billion barrels of proven reserves. Worldwide demand is approximately 95 million barrels per day. At the current demand, worldwide reserves are depleted in 48 years
Robert L Hirsch, Ph.D., former Assistant Director DOE (ERDA,) V.P. Arco, and Manager of R&D Exxon-Mobil, explains the implication in terms of increasingly higher fuel costs and the impact on the world’s 70 trillion dollar transportation and heavy machinery infrastructure. See: http://science.fusion4freedom.us/hirsch/
We have similar issues with natural gas and coal which will be greatly exacerbated by the need to produce synthetic liquid fuels and increased electrification of the transportation industry.
And we have not mentioned the fact that 3 billion people worldwide live in “energy poverty” while well over 1 billion people live with no electricity. New coal fired electricity plants are now being built in China, India, and other parts of the developing world. They have a life cycle of about 60 years which is roughly the amount of worldwide economically viable coal reserves once this new demand kicks in.

Reply to  Tomer D. Tamarkin
February 17, 2017 11:38 am

How many decades or generations has it been stated as 5 years of reserves, updated and repeated every few years?

Reply to  Resourceguy
February 17, 2017 11:51 am

As the guest post explains, that is not the right metric for the big picture.

Reply to  Tomer D. Tamarkin
February 17, 2017 11:50 am

You can now be more optimistic about natural gas. There is much more shale in the gas window than in the oil catagenesis window. And gas recovery factors are running 12-15% rather than 1.5-3% for oil. The Siluria Technologies OCM and ETL catalysis inventions seem to be scaling to industrial size, which lengthens significantly the liquid transportation fuels runway. Finally, the Fiskars Nanotech announcements offer a glimmer of a viable transport electrification solution, a LIC hybrid device. Guest posted on that at CE last November. Technically plausible, but nothing public even at lab scale yet.

Reply to  ristvan
February 17, 2017 9:06 pm

What is predominately leading to production of the shale “gale” vs the “tight” oil is the size of a CH4 molecule vs one of oil. The CH4 molecule is much more easily produced from the tight rocks with their mirocdarcy permeability than a liquid crude oil “drop” with modern completions (enhanced frac technology). Tight shale gas wells are easier to complete successfully to produce large volumes of natural gas and that has led to the depressed natural gas market in the US. It has been a great boon to consumers but a bear for the industry.

Kalifornia Kook
Reply to  Tomer D. Tamarkin
February 18, 2017 5:21 pm

I’m sure others have said it, but when you have enough resources for the near future, do you keep looking for more?
Put another way, after you find the right pair of socks in the morning, do you keep looking for another? Is there not a good reason that something lost is subsequently found in the last place you looked for it? Or, after you found it, did you keep looking?
Looking for oil resources costs money, and there are risks that finding that resource too early may not result in you or your company getting to take advantage of it.
But maybe I’m just lazy. I’m going to go looking for some more socks. I’ll bet they’re some in my upper right drawer, but failing that, I’ll check the top of the dryer. I don’t know what good that information will do me, but I gotta do something!

Reply to  Tomer D. Tamarkin
March 1, 2017 4:08 am

Much of our crude is imported to take advantage of our excess refining capacity to produce finished fuels for export. Our actual crude oil demand to be self-sufficient is significantly lower. The oil business, like all businesses, is about making money in a competitive environment. And nothing is better for national security than a money-making economy. For this reason alone, “oil independence” is a specious argument.

February 17, 2017 11:49 am

Variable rate hydraulic fracturing boosted production by 18% at the first well where it was demonstrated:
No new equipment needed, just a slight change in completion process. Works for oil and gas in the Marcellus and West Texas. Some fields have seen 48% increases in productivity. Who knows what the impact will be once the process is refined.
Fracking is just getting started.

Reply to  vboring
February 17, 2017 12:53 pm

Can existing wells be fracked?

Reply to  MarkW
February 17, 2017 2:16 pm

It depends on the state of the existing wells. If the well has been plugged & abandoned, the answer is no. If it’s still a usable wellbore, the answer is maybe. However, most shale wells are horizontal wells. Straight holes aren’t that useful for fracking shale.

Reply to  MarkW
February 17, 2017 4:04 pm

MW, DM is precisely correct. For a simple visual ‘technical’ explanation, see essay Reserve Reservations in ebook Blowing Smoke. Second illustration is self explanatory.

February 17, 2017 11:53 am

Wonderful history and analysis of oil exploration. Really a pleasure to read.
“The moral of the story? Never underestimate the ingenuity of mankind and never assume that technology is static. Also, the resources that technology recognizes today are not all the planet’s resources.”
I would like to point out that Andy May said, “the ingenuity of mankind,” not the “ingenuity of academia.” And there is an enormous difference between the two. (:
The “ingenuity of mankind” requires private property, freedom, and patent law to protect the inventor and bring the invention to the people who can use it. Nations that lack these things have static technology.

Kalifornia Kook
Reply to  Zeke
February 18, 2017 5:23 pm

“Ingenuity of academia”… isn’t that an oxymoron?

James Francisco
February 17, 2017 12:17 pm

I sure am glad that our ancestors didn’t decide to destroy their economy that helped build our present economy by listening to their gloom and doomers. It appears to me that gloom and doomers have always been around.

February 17, 2017 12:22 pm

Nice historical review, Mr May. The only real way we will run out of oil is politics.

February 17, 2017 12:32 pm

“The future ain’t what it used to be.” — Yogi Berra

February 17, 2017 12:49 pm

I have been looking at the future of oil production for several years. I am not a geologist. I am an economist. One thing became very clear early in my research: how much oil is in the ground is NOT the problem. The problem is one of economics. We have to look at the extraction of oil as a supply chain analysis, starting with the political environment of the nation that owns the oil, and ending at the point where the derived product is consumed. The problem is not how much oil is in the ground, the problem to solve is: how much of the oil in the ground can be made consistently available to the consumer at a price the consumer can afford to pay?

Reply to  TCE
February 17, 2017 1:01 pm

Yes, and the poster child for disconnect of the markets and the resources and policies is in Venezuela.

February 17, 2017 12:54 pm

A timely comparison. In 2001, the 2nd week of George W. (Shrub) Bush’s first term as U.S. President, he kept a campaign promise and established an “Energy Task Force” A.K.A the National Energy Policy Development Group (NEPDG). VP Dick Cheney chaired. By April an organized “resistance” of over a dozen “pro-environmental” NGOs responded accusing the Task Force of very overtly and dangerously “pro-oil”. Throughout the Shrub presidency the policies pursued were derided as ineffective. The war in Iraq was described as a method by which the U.S. could secure its own oil supply by imperial conquest of the Iraqi oil fields. The price of oil climbed as the Iraqi and other middle-Eastern oil instead disappeared from world markets. The 2008 political race contrasted Republican policies (“Drill, baby, Drill!”) with Democrat opponents who argued that “even if we opened new oil fields/deployed new technologies/rolled out new regulations/did what the oil companies wanted/ etc –“it would take ten years before we saw any change in supply or reductions in price.”
In 2009, roughly a decade after Shrub’s fulfilled promise, oil prices plummeted… Prices bottomed out at
Looks to me like both sides of this debate were correct.

Reply to  pouncer
February 17, 2017 4:16 pm

Bear in mind that most Democrats and Republicans are “pro-oil”. Lloyd Bentson (D-Tex) ensured the tax breaks for the oil companies during the first Bush era.
It matters what state they are from, not their party.

G. Karst
February 17, 2017 1:25 pm

And then one day he was shootin at some food,
And up through the ground come a bubblin crude.
Oil that is, black gold, Texas tea. GK

February 17, 2017 1:45 pm

As far as I’m aware, Shell abandoned their latest efforts to recover kerogen in 2013 as below:
Shell pulls out of oil shale project, leaving one big operator behind
Date: September 25, 2013
Shell is abandoning its decade-long quest to commercially extract shale oil from Colorado, leaving just one major company betting big on the future of that unconventional crude in America.
Shell Oil Co. late Tuesday confirmed it was giving up its Mahogany project in Colorado after investing tens of millions of dollars and 31 years on the endeavor, to focus on other opportunities and producing assets. Chevron Corp., made a similar decision in February 2012, when it said it would abandon its own federal oil shale lease in Colorado’s Piceance Basin

Reply to  brent
February 17, 2017 2:17 pm

The key point is that Shell demonstrated an in situ process that could work.

Reply to  David Middleton
February 17, 2017 4:09 pm

True, but at a very high cost. Freezewall ‘solves’ the groundwater and waste rock disposal problems, but at a very high energy and economic cost. Said above themissue is both geophysics and economics. We will never run out of oil. We just won’t be able to afford to use what remains.

February 17, 2017 2:02 pm

So what is the newest explanation for how oil is created? I think we have long passed the idea that dead dinosaurs under great pressure became oil. There were that many dinosaurs for one thing.

Reply to  JohninRedding
February 17, 2017 2:19 pm

Dinosaurs have never been considered to be the source of oil.
Plankton, algae and other simple marine and lacustrine organisms are the source of oil.

Reply to  David Middleton
February 17, 2017 4:52 pm

Yes. Most,oil and gas comes from marine photosynthsizers that ‘died’ into anoxic conditions. The Black sea is a major,oil forming privince today. Of course, takes millions of years for a meaningful accumulation. Then, unlike Green River oil shale, the kerogen rich sediment has to sink into the earth at enough pressure and temperature to undergo catagenesis. Happened with the Permian Basin, sveral times. Never happened to the Green River oil shale, still exposed eroding on the surface 55 mya later.

Reply to  David Middleton
February 17, 2017 7:30 pm

Don’t forget that some of the more volatile hydrocarbons that were originally part of the coal migrated away and became trapped in geologic traps. This is the source of some types of petroleum.

February 17, 2017 2:26 pm

Whenever I read about this subject my brain just cannot adjust to so much oil and gas being available from dead organisms. Dead organism get cleaned up rather quickly. Coal is easier to understand as a result of geological catastrophes.
I find it a lot easier to accept abiotic processes that oil and gas are produced in the earth core like Titan and some other planets.
My question to the experts here: What’s the latest understanding/consensus on this?

R. Shearer
Reply to  Titus
February 17, 2017 3:53 pm

Coal deposits often contain visible fossilized remains of plants, leaves, etc. On a molecular level, bio-markers are also found. All of the bio-markers (chemical skeletons or fossils if you will) found in coal are found in oil also.
That said, there is no way to prove that ancient natural gas has a biological origin.

dan no longer in CA
Reply to  R. Shearer
February 17, 2017 7:43 pm

I was sitting in a NASA Marshall conference room (~1984) when Sir Fred Hoyle announced that all the methane in the solar system was generated biologically. I could hear the sphincters slam shut after that announcement. Sir Fred was pushing his meme of: “Life did not start on Earth; it, in the form of microbes, filtered down from outside”

Reply to  Titus
February 17, 2017 4:58 pm

Abioic oil has been completely discredited; impossible chemistry. Both supposed proofs are junk. sweden involves drilling mud contamination, Ukraine involves really bad geology.
There is minor abiotic natural gas under unusual geological conditions, no question. Largest known deposits are methane clathrates at the bottom of the Framm Strait, catalyzed by iron in the seafloor spreading basalts. You can google from here for verifications.

Reply to  ristvan
February 17, 2017 5:31 pm

Thks ristan. You said ‘impossible chemistry’. Do you know how the process works on plants like Titan?

Reply to  ristvan
February 17, 2017 5:33 pm

That should be ‘planets’:)

Reply to  ristvan
February 17, 2017 5:56 pm

Methane isn’t oil.

Reply to  ristvan
February 17, 2017 6:01 pm

There is no oil on Titan. There is methane. Abubdant in primodial,atmosphers. Altered by Earth biology over ~ 3,5 billion years. Learn science more, comment science-void less.

Reply to  ristvan
February 18, 2017 1:48 am

Checked out that ethane and tholine (in large quantities) are still thought to be present. Tholine, I understand is a complex hydrocarbon like tar/bitumen that we’ve used for centuries and always sticks to nice clothing when lying on the beach.
Years ago I had a little theory that when the geological catastrophes (breaks in earths crust) occurred abiotic oil came up and biotic oil from the oceans went down and mixed together. Still seems to hold water!!
Thks for replies.

February 17, 2017 2:35 pm

Yes maybe it will get too expensive to get the oil reserves; but then again, a higher price means we can get fracking. So the Saudi’s and the Greens are on the horns of a dilemma.

Shale Wars: Where Are Oil Prices Headed As Saudi Arabia Lets The Big Bet Play Out?
“So far it has cost Saudi Arabia something like $200 billion to undertake one of the most expensive experiments of all time. The Saudi government has been draining its massive $2 trillion sovereign wealth fund to cover revenues lost from the petroleum price collapse over the past couple of years.
What we’re witnessing is a two-part test. The first question is how much damage low oil prices will have caused America’s shale industry.
Then the second and far more critical part of the test: as oil prices rise, will the shale industry limp or roar back?”

And it looks like those who want to regulate and tax our massive, massive natural resources into a top-down planned obsolescence just lost an election.

Reply to  Zeke
February 17, 2017 11:19 pm

“Yes maybe it will get too expensive to get the oil reserves;”
Oh brother. Sorry. I do think that the goal of sustainable development is to make drilling, transporting and cracking just too darn expensive. But high oil prices are what I meant to begin the sentence with, because I was leading up to the Forbes article about how the Saudis agreed to artificially lower oil prices in an attempt to destroy the fracking boom in the US.
And the horrible thing about predictions of inaccessibility/scarcity is that people in government base policies on them, and build incredibly expensive energy projects which commit to pay much more than going rates. Because they predict the price of energy will always go up, and not come down, they actually contract for a higher price. But energy prices were coming down in some places because of the fracking boom.

Reply to  Zeke
February 18, 2017 8:03 am

Somehow, I just can’t believe the Saudis could be so ignorant of our economic system as to believe they could drive fracking out of business, then raise prices again. Oh, don’t misunderstand me, they can certainly drive companies bankrupt, but the oil, gas, and technology are still there. What would happen is, someone would buy up the assets of failed companies for pennies on the dollar. Much of the costs of developing the drilling sites are in infrastructure – roads, clearing land, establishing transport routes – and research, and are thus bought at discounted rates. Without having had to pay full cost on these things, the new buyer has a much lower break-even cost. The Saudis could not raise prices to that new, lower cost without facing the same competitive forces again. Our system can be like a mouse trap: the first mouse gets a nibble at the cheese, but the second gets what’s left at reduced risk.

February 17, 2017 2:37 pm

“They estimate the Green River oil shale could ultimately produce 500 to 1,100 barrels of recoverable oil using their technique. Compare that to the 1,242-barrel estimate in table 1.”
Left out the BBOE unit – rather important…

February 17, 2017 3:33 pm

Look at Saturn-moon Titan, which has innumerable reserves of carbonhydrates originating GEOLOGICALLY. There’s no reason why that shouldn’t happen on Earth, too. Forget about the urban myth of “biogen-ptroduced hydrocarbons” on planet Earth, In fact, we are SWIMMING on an ocean fn geologically produced hydrocarbons. Live with it!

Smart Rock
Reply to  mogamboguru
February 17, 2017 4:52 pm

So why is there no oil in Precambrian sedimentary basins then?
The same is not true of gas though, from personal experience.

Reply to  Smart Rock
February 17, 2017 6:01 pm

There might be undiscovered oil in some Precambrian basins, although it’s probably not from Proterozoic source rocks…

Reply to  mogamboguru
February 17, 2017 5:28 pm

Hydrocarbons, not carbohydrates. Methane isn’t oil. Inorganically sourced methane is abundant on Earth and elsewhere throughout the Solar System. Heavier hydrocarbons, not so much.

Reply to  David Middleton
February 17, 2017 6:04 pm

Not so much equals chemistry zero. ZERO. As in NOTHING. From first principles.

Reply to  mogamboguru
February 18, 2017 4:54 am

“Forget about the urban myth of “biogen-ptroduced hydrocarbons” on planet Earth”
Bold. Study organic chemistry, specifically chirality, before such a bold – and demonstrably wrong – statement.
Methane may be abiogenic, but oil is not.

February 17, 2017 3:37 pm

‘Oil – Will we run out?’
Answerable by Betteridge’s Law.
And who is “we?”

Reply to  Gamecock
February 17, 2017 11:11 pm

My daughters’ friend ran out and it wrecked her engine. She didn’t realize that when the warning light came on she would need to alter her behavior in some manner (add oil, change oil, don’t drive, drive to mechanic, ask me, tell someone else, etc.).
So, yes blinders and/or stupidity can lead to running out of oil.
But then again she did have access to oil, she just didn’t do anything about it (see venezuala). So I guess you could argue that she didn’t actually run out; she just ignored what was available.
Either way, the liberaldemocrate types sure do resemble teenage girls in a lot of ways.

Steve from Rockwood
February 17, 2017 3:46 pm

Predicting peak oil is a slippery slope. Other than that, oil reserves can be reduced to the number of barrels times the price per barrel with the latter defining the difference between proven and recoverable.

February 17, 2017 4:56 pm

Oil and coal will always be extraordinarily useful resources. One of the ways the environmentalists have plotted to plan the obsolescence of coal and oil is to mandate replacement products. This is a system of mandating new products and gradually outlawing any existing products, and controlling any competition. This is in part what they mean by making it too expensive to use coal and oil.
I see this as a return to mercantilism, in which the governments alone give out licenses to engage in any kind of business. Except the right to give out a license is disguised as an “environmentally friendly” standards.
Oil and coal provide hundreds of products which are benign and inexpensive, and every single one of them is under attack by environmentalists. (I just have to say, I hate that new idiotic plastic packaging that makes noise and tears easily. I really hate it. So much.)
So all the more reason to slash regulations, taxation, and above all, worthless mandates for replacements artificially introduced.

February 17, 2017 5:14 pm

Of course we will run out. We have run out of oil before. We ran out, then went deeper. We ran out then went offshore. We ran out then went to the Arctic. We ran out and started fracking. Each one is its own bell curve that is replaced by a new one representing a new technology.

Reply to  Donald Kasper
February 17, 2017 5:29 pm

Wrong on every conceivable level.

February 17, 2017 5:16 pm

We have not even considered tapping the methane cathrates in the deep ocean floor. That will be oil/gas/condensate gen X hydrocarbon boon. We have several more bell curves yet to start.

Reply to  Donald Kasper
February 17, 2017 5:16 pm

Not to mention finally tapping into the oil shale.

Reply to  Donald Kasper
February 17, 2017 6:03 pm

Japan has done some preliminary work on this. The main problem is finding a way to produce them at commercial rates

Reply to  David Middleton
February 17, 2017 6:23 pm

Japan tapped i to the methane clathrate zone of the Nakai trough for exactly one week, to o prove technical feasibility, That is all. Discussed in essay Ice that Burns..

Reply to  Donald Kasper
February 18, 2017 1:05 pm

DK, read essay Ice That Burns in ebook Blowing Smoke. Most ocean methane clathrate cannot be tapped at all for geophysical reasons. There are exceptions like Japan’s Nankai Trough. There is now proof of technical feasibility for that sand based formation. It is still far from economic. When Japan can import Australian LNG at $8/mmbtu.

February 17, 2017 5:39 pm

Actually “Prediction is not very difficult, especially about the future” The difficulty arises when the future arrives and the predictors are in denial, a lot like electricity in South Australia.

February 17, 2017 6:31 pm

” Oil – Will we run out?” No. Next stupid question, please.

February 17, 2017 7:16 pm

There are two other factors needed to predict the future of oil use — how much does it cost to produce a barrel of oil, and how much are people willing or able to pay for a barrel.

February 17, 2017 7:17 pm

David Middleton, (February 17, 2017 at 2:19 pm)
“Dinosaurs have never been considered to be the source of oil.”
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October, 1917…
Owing to most oil fields being associated with limestone, many theorists conclude that petroleum is the result of animal fats of pre-hlstoric animals. This query is well set at rest by Sir James Hector, when he says : “It is not so much the result of limestone as its capacity to store it.”
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Plankton, algae and other simple marine and lacustrine organisms are the source of oil.
Did did the orbiting pebble called “Comet Haley”–1/3 kerogen (equivalent to around 500 years of OPEC output)–have oceans and lakes filled with algae and other simple organisms?
Or is there another explanation?
“Titan, Saturn’s largest moon, is a mysterious place. Its thick atmosphere is rich in organic compounds. Some of them would be [considered] signs of life [by special pleaders peddling fossil fuels] if they were on our planet.”
Whenever you see “fossil fuels” leaking into the ocean, you also see organism eating it and turning it into living organisms, as if they are trying say, “you got the story backwards, fossil fool!”

Hocus Locus
February 17, 2017 7:33 pm

Nice departure from the curve of doom but it is only production. Factor in EROEI “energy returned on energy invested” and the uptick would level off a bit. Sooner or later there will be a close fit.
Until we use nuclear process heat to tap shale, and nuclear electricity to power grids and ground transportation it will be a steep downhill battle. Even then oil will just be a more gradual downslope. Shale folk like to say that “the natural gas is free”… because their point of view had the gas being wasted otherwise. Now that there are high pressure pipeline networks and electricity plants to use the gas, it can no longer be considered “free”.
Within the century the thought of using fossil fuels for anything other than jet fuel and chemical precursors to fertilizer and plastic, will be unconscionable. Before the turn of the next century fresh water will flow through pipelines that now carry oil. The current practice of using gas and oil for ground transportation will be viewed with sadness and resentful anger. They will say, you had the right technology all along (nuclear)… why did you not use it?

Reply to  Hocus Locus
February 17, 2017 8:02 pm

Within the century the thought of using fossil fuels for anything other than jet fuel and chemical precursors to fertilizer and plastic, will be unconscionable.
Try telling that to non-human organisms…
“Iceworms (Hesiocaeca methanicola) infest a solid piece of orange methane ice at 540m depth in the Gulf of Mexico.” -(NOAA, Photo by Ian MacDonald.)
[Finite fossils springing back to life in the blink of an eye, like the phoenix rising from the ashes. Amazing!]
“Most of the methane that rises toward the surface of the ocean floor vanishes before it even reaches the water. On page 484 of this issue, a team of researchers provides the clinching evidence for where all that methane goes: It is devoured by vast hordes of mud-dwelling microbes that belong to a previously unknown species of archaea.”
– ‘Inconceivable’ Bugs Eat Methane on the Ocean Floor, Science, July 2001
* * * *
“…methane is the primary food source for most microorganisms thriving in the ocean floor
– Methane Devourer Discovered In The Arctic, ScienceDaily (Oct. 20, 2006)
* * * *
It’s unconscionable! Why do we let it happen? Why haven’t we invented a biocide of some kind to eliminate our competitors in the race for the last few precious drops?

Reply to  Khwarizmi
February 18, 2017 3:05 am

Why not eliminate them?
Because they are an essential component in the life cycle of oil and those “predators” eat oil spills. Without those “predators,” the Gulf of Mexico would be the Gulf of Texaco. About 1-5 million barrels per year of crude oil leaks into the Gulf from more than 600 natural oil seeps. These seeps have been active for 10’s to 100’s of thousands of years, if not much longer.
While the “predators” do biodegrade some shallow oil accumulations, they aren’t compeitors.

February 17, 2017 8:13 pm

“The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design.” – Friedrich August von Hayek
I was in B-school in the 1990s but liked physics — my neighbor across the hall was a physics major who planned to work for NASA so he could tell people “why yes, I am a rocket scientist.” I remember one day we had a good laugh over the foolishness of our dependence on oil, which was clearly running out. He scoffed (as I nodded wisely in agreement) “I’ve met people who think fossil fuels will never run out!”
Well, never is a long time, but there sure turned out to be a lot of recoverable oil we not only didn’t know about, but assumed could not exist.

lemiere jacques
Reply to  talldave2
February 17, 2017 11:18 pm

you can laugh over the foolishness of those who think the sun will always shine..:)
the point is made since a long time now, we can’ t predict the end of oil , we can’t even predict if or some resaon we will stop before using the last drop of it…
what is thepoint of peak oil? the real one?
is it “stop using oil when there is no more of it?” well…how come…
is it “”have a good idea to replace it?” well…i d like it but…
is” let me tell you what to do of your life”.

Johann Wundersamer
February 17, 2017 10:57 pm

Great! Thanks – Hans

February 17, 2017 11:49 pm

Conventional oil in the US flows the Hubbert curve very closely.
Unconventional oil is of course a new Hubbert curve, not the disproving of Hubbert’s principle.
Beware faux logic. Just because its always been OK up to date doesn’t mean it will always be OK tomorrow.
Fossil fuel is already massively more expensive than it was, and at some point its gonna be more expensive than proper nuclear power, at which point bye bye natural gas market.
At some point unconventional oil will be more expensive than SynDiesel, made from water CO2 and nuclear power, Then bye bye oil market.

Reply to  Leo Smith
February 18, 2017 3:07 am

Shale oil is not unconventional oil. Hubbert’s peak oil prediction was based on the assumption that the total US recoverable resource was 150-200 billion barrels. Peak oil production was predicted to occur when half of that resource had been recovered.
Hubbert’s prediction failed because the total recoverable resource was much larger than his estimate…
If the sum total of recoverable resource is equal to cumulative production + proved reserves + undiscovered recoverable resource, then peak oil occurred in 2004, assuming you smooth the curve with a Gaussian filter…comment image?w=680
However proved reserves increase year after year and the undiscovered resource has been continuously revised upwards.

The idea behind Hubbert’s Peak is that the rate of oil extraction from a field tends to follow a Gaussian or “bell” curve. There is no intrinsic reason why it should be so, and political, economic, and technological changes can in principle change the curve. But Hubbert observed that it seemed to work in small fields that had been tapped out.
Hubbert applied the method, in about 1956, to the time evolution of oil extraction from the continental U.S. (top option on the page). The other piece of information he needed was an estimate of the total amount of oil that would ever be extracted. With this, he predicted using the data up that time (1956) that the U.S. would reach peak oil production in the early 1970’s. Alter the curve by changing the parameters, and see how much wiggle room Hubbert had to make this prediction.
Today, with respect to World oil production, we are in a position not unlike Hubbert’s, where uncertainty in the total extractable inventory of oil have some impact on how well can pin down the year of global peak oil.

Reply to  David Middleton
February 18, 2017 7:16 am

Going from Hubbert’s world of vertical drilling and associated success rates in oil trap targets to horizontal drilling of shale is like adding another dimension to the models. It does not even translate to prior models, assumptions, and assertions.

Reply to  David Middleton
February 20, 2017 5:02 am

Also… In Hubbert’s day, single-fold seismic was the norm and stacked CDP 2d seismic data was in its infancy.

Kalifornia Kook
Reply to  Leo Smith
February 18, 2017 5:49 pm

“Fossil fuel is already massively more expensive than it was…’. Hm. When I was a kid (’70s) I paid 25 cents a gallon for regular. Now I pay about $2.50 a gallon.
When I was a kid, I couldn’t afford $2,500 for a Ford Mustang. Now I have to pay $25,000 for a Ford Mustang.
Our house back then sold for $25,000. I just checked Zillow. It’s valued at $492, 000. That’s almost a 2000% rise for a 50 year old house. Gas is up only 1000%, with huge taxes now being assessed.
Not massively higher. In fact, a pretty good deal – for me, and for a greedy Government.

Reply to  Leo Smith
February 19, 2017 8:12 am

“Fossil fuel is already massively more expensive than it was”
That depends what you’re comparing it to, of course.
Compared to getting your leaky sink fixed or buying a house in London, I doubt it very much indeed.

February 18, 2017 12:37 am

James (paraffin) Young. Saved the whale. Google.

Reply to  Will Sylvander
February 19, 2017 8:19 am

Yes, in the days when Scotland was the World’s premier producer of petroleum products, and also when the first alarmists predicted we were going to run out of oil, about 1860.
Funny how few people know that…

February 18, 2017 1:46 am

The Oil Age will ultimately end like all “ages” before it.
It is worth remembering the Stone Age didn’t end because humans ran out of stones; we just made a better mousetrap, then another, then another…

Reply to  KO
February 18, 2017 3:11 am

Correct. When we find something that delivers more $ value per btu, the Oil Age will come to an end.
The Stone Age didn’t end because prescient bureaucrats decided it was time to move on to the Bronze Age.

Reply to  KO
February 18, 2017 8:21 am

I have heard a Saudi oil minister using that exact same quote…