Monday Mirthiness – NOAA vs. reality

There’s been quite a bit of wailing and gnashing of teeth over the Mail on Sunday article by David Rose who interviewed a NOAA whistleblower who says that Karl et al. embellished their 2015 “pausebuster” paper. NOAA Scientists Manipulated Temperature Data To Make Global Warming Seem Worse. Josh has his take on it.

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Alan the Brit
February 6, 2017 8:23 am

Whilst it is pretty clear that the AGW propaganda is being seen through & almost being acknowledged too, they won’t give up that easily! I wonder what new “disaster” isgoing to befall mankind if we don’t adopt a globul guvment in the near future!!! They clearly need to read afew more Sci-Fi books & watch some more Sci-Fi movies, because everyone that portrays any kind of globul guvment implies it’s a frigging disaster!!!

Latitude
Reply to  Alan the Brit
February 6, 2017 8:35 am

I wonder what new “disaster”……
Global Warming makes sun spots disappear

ShrNfr
Reply to  Latitude
February 6, 2017 9:10 am

And do not forget the magnetic field of the earth flipping. All the little birds with magnetite in their heads will be all sort of confused and fly into wind turbines and become bird sushi.

Phil R
Reply to  Latitude
February 6, 2017 10:22 am

ShrNfr,
Heck, they’re doing that now, without polar reversal!

noaaprogrammer
Reply to  Latitude
February 6, 2017 4:41 pm

Increasing meteorites falling on all the Chicken Little heads.

J. Hellberg
Reply to  Latitude
February 7, 2017 8:40 am

Oh shit!

Mark from the Midwest
Reply to  Alan the Brit
February 6, 2017 8:43 am

It’s worse than we thought, I won’t even recover what I paid on my 320 sqm townhouse Brussels Centre!

Michael S. Kelly
Reply to  Alan the Brit
February 6, 2017 5:06 pm

The biggest disaster of all would be global government.

Santa Baby
Reply to  Michael S. Kelly
February 7, 2017 1:08 am

It’s Lenin’s dream of international Socialism/Marxism.

myNym
Reply to  Michael S. Kelly
February 7, 2017 11:06 am

As opposed to Lennon’s dream of no government.

Griff
Reply to  Alan the Brit
February 7, 2017 3:15 am

I’ll predict a new record low arctic sea ice event for September 2017…
Sadly, doesn’t seem much chance of that not happening this year.
(Temps now expected to reach 50F above normal at N Pole this week – just above freezing there)

myNym
Reply to  Griff
February 7, 2017 11:05 am

During the last glacial advance, much of Alaska was free of ice. Parts of the Arctic actually warming* could indicate that the Holocene is coming to a close.
* (The “warming” supposedly measured is a decrease in the extents of the night-time lows, not a warming of the day-time temperatures. No warming there.)
Meanwhile, please give us your prediction for the coming Antarctic ice extent. Thanks!

Russell
February 6, 2017 8:42 am

Who said there are lies damned lies and statistics?
?

Michael burcke
Reply to  Russell
February 6, 2017 9:00 am

Mark Twain (Samuel Clemens)

Steve Carousso
Reply to  Russell
February 6, 2017 9:25 am

Mark Twain

FJ Shepherd
Reply to  Russell
February 6, 2017 9:29 am

Mark Twain said that.

oldtimerlex
Reply to  Russell
February 6, 2017 10:52 am

Lord Beaconsfield, although ofter attributed to Disraeli.

oldtimerlex
Reply to  oldtimerlex
February 6, 2017 10:53 am

… and quoted by Mark Twain in his autobiography (attributed to Disraeli)

Auto
Reply to  oldtimerlex
February 6, 2017 12:28 pm

Wasn’t Lord Beaconsfield actually the ennobled Disraeli?
Bit confusing, I guess for non-Brits. Sorry. It works, sort of, but need not be logical.
No heir, so the earldom became extinct when Benjamin Disraeli – Earl of Beaconsfield – died.
Auto

Michael S. Kelly
Reply to  oldtimerlex
February 6, 2017 5:08 pm

Auto – No, the Disraelis are those miscreants who threaten the entire Middle East with prosperity.

powers2be
Reply to  Russell
February 6, 2017 4:54 pm

I think the same person who said that “figures lie and liars figure” but whenever the source is in doubt it gets laid at the feet of Samuel Clemens.

Michael S. Kelly
Reply to  Russell
February 6, 2017 5:07 pm

Samuel Clemens.

MarkW
February 6, 2017 8:53 am

What’s next? Tuesday Tackiness?

PiperPaul
Reply to  MarkW
February 6, 2017 9:24 am

Tuesday Tickles.

BallBounces
Reply to  MarkW
February 6, 2017 9:27 am

Wednesday Whoppers.

Janice Moore
February 6, 2017 8:58 am

Josh, thank you for sharing another fine cartoon-with-a-point (only suggestion I have is to remove the “?”).
You can count the lack of responses on this thread as confirmation that you did a great job covering the issue: there’s simply nothing else to be said.

Chris Norman
February 6, 2017 9:03 am

The planet is cooling. Since mid 2015 there have been record low tempatures all over this planet. Now we are seeing crop failure follow suit with the common theme being cold, e.g. Rain and cold or drought and cold. And this is just the very beginning.
The scientist who predicted this, the record cold and the crop failure can all be googled.
It’s very sobering stuff.

cirby
Reply to  Chris Norman
February 6, 2017 9:12 am

Don’t be silly, Chris.
While it’s true that the places where people actually live are seeing lower temperatures, there are huge swaths of the Earth’s surface that are seeing much, much higher temperatures. Of course, there’s no people there to notice it, but the adjusted instrument readings certainly agree. And if they don’t, they can always be adjusted some more.

Steamboat McGoo
Reply to  cirby
February 7, 2017 6:36 am

” Of course, there’s no people there to notice it, but the adjusted instrument readings certainly agree. And if they don’t, they can always be adjusted some more. ”
Yep, especially those swaths of the Earth’s surface with no temperature-recording equipment present. They’re like blank pages, just waiting to be “corrected” to suit! /sarc

Richard M
Reply to  Chris Norman
February 6, 2017 9:25 am

Not sure where you are getting this but it clearly disagrees with world production numbers from the USDA. 2016 once again set records for many crops. Only spotty problems I could find were from El Nino driven droughts.
https://apps.fas.usda.gov/psdonline/circulars/production.pdf

richard verney
Reply to  Richard M
February 6, 2017 10:21 am

There have been a lot of problems in Southern Europe these past few months. Very wet and cold causing havoc with crops.

cirby
Reply to  Richard M
February 6, 2017 10:48 am

There have even been some satirical articles about it. I read one today about someone “dealing” smuggled veggies to vegans in England.

Leo Smith
Reply to  Richard M
February 6, 2017 7:54 pm

Oh yes.No spanish courgettes (zucchini) at sane prices Lettuce a thing of the past till March. Green heads exploding.

Reply to  Richard M
February 7, 2017 9:23 am

In southern Idaho the Potato and sugar beets were off the charts three months ago, today it’s been three weeks since I’ve been able reach the main highway. The pineapple express dropped a ton of snow coupled with the wind we ended up with 8 foot drifts in areas, the roads can’t be graded, to much snow without using a D9 to pull the grader with a V Plow. Snowmobiles are fun but don’t haul a lot, at 65 snowshoes suck. FYI: 22 years and never had 8 foot drifts, weather is not predictable. I did finally find where I left my snowblower http://aaes.us/snow1/r2493.JPG

Griff
Reply to  Chris Norman
February 7, 2017 3:17 am

Really, it isn’t.
warmest year ever 2016, remember

Harry Passfield
February 6, 2017 9:10 am

Has that chart, its data and code been archived? 🙂

Steve Fraser
Reply to  Harry Passfield
February 6, 2017 10:56 am

15 million backup copies today! I have mine!

Harry Passfield
Reply to  Steve Fraser
February 6, 2017 12:26 pm

Then it is entirely reproducible. Take note, scientists out there.

February 6, 2017 9:14 am

Is this really a surprise to anyone? They have lied about this for decades.
And it doesn’t even matter, if you look at min,max and dew point temps it would show there is no co2 warming( or so little it’s barely measurable), this could have proven this out 20 years ago.
How can co2 cause it to be warmer tomorrow morning, if tonight it cools to the dew point + a couple of degrees, and neither are following co2?
Cooling is water regulated just like warming is water regulated.
This is about 90 hours of temp, rel humidity, and net radiation data. Temp in F, Rel in %, and Radiation in W/m^2comment image
This very specifically is regulating cooling to dew point temp. It will do this everywhere on the planet where rel humidity runs from from below about 70% rel humidity during the day to over 90% at night.
Same data zoomed outcomment image
If you do not understand how this is a temperature controlled regulator, ask!
If you do, and you think about this, it is proof the modern temperature record has nothing to do with Co2, but moving warm water around the worlds oceans.

Reply to  micro6500
February 6, 2017 10:59 am

But micro, something magical happens high up in the atmosphere, where, by the way, Santa Clause flies during December of every year.
Don’t kill that magic of alarmism or Santa. Think of the children!

Gunga Din
Reply to  micro6500
February 6, 2017 2:58 pm

Is this really a surprise to anyone? They have lied about this for decades.

True, but as Climategate gave a glimpse of what went on behind the scenes in general, this has given us much more than a glimpse.
The reality of “The Pause” was counter to what all the policies based on what Man’s CO2 was supposed to do.
This exposed the shenanigans, not just the suspicions but the actions. And it was exposed by one they can’t claim isn’t a “Climate Scientist”.
With Climategate we had “Mike’s Nature Trick”.
Now we “Karl’s Data Trick”.

February 6, 2017 9:16 am

Climategate 2.0
NOAAgate
. . . or . . .
Karlgate
John

MarkW
Reply to  John Whitman
February 6, 2017 9:57 am

Litigate?

Reply to  MarkW
February 6, 2017 10:10 am

🖖

schitzree
Reply to  MarkW
February 6, 2017 2:17 pm

^¿^
We can only hope.

Harry Passfield
Reply to  John Whitman
February 6, 2017 12:29 pm

NOAA’sarc?

Harry Passfield
Reply to  Harry Passfield
February 6, 2017 12:30 pm

Actually….I just realised, it can’t be an ark….NOAA doesn’t do archiving….

Roger Knights
Reply to  John Whitman
February 6, 2017 1:04 pm

CAUSEBUSTER?

Reply to  John Whitman
February 6, 2017 8:34 pm

Or as they said at work
NOOOOOOOO……AAAAAAAAArgh we’ve been tattled on .

fretslider
February 6, 2017 9:16 am

I sent an email to BBCs Inside Science to ask if they were going to report on this.
It’s a rabidly pro-alarmist programme, So I’m not holding my breath for a reply.

M Courtney
Reply to  fretslider
February 6, 2017 10:29 am

The problem with BBC’s Inside Science is that it’s just that.
There is no perspective at all. It’s just cheerleading for a profession called scientist.
The actual science is portrayed as radiant fire stolen from the gods by these modern Prometheans – a race apart from us.
There is no reporting of debates. How could there be? We mere mortals born of woman couldn’t comprehend the lightning that astounds the presenter.

Reply to  fretslider
February 6, 2017 10:35 am

The BBC will avoid it like the plague. They only report fake news and this is much too truthful for the likes of Cardinal Harrabin and all their other “science” and environment correspondents.

Moderately Cross of East Anglia
February 6, 2017 9:43 am

The current senior management and editorial staff of the BBC have invested so much in the climate fraud that the idea that they will ever willingly give even a fair hearing to the science based critique of alarmist claptrap is a fantasy. What is interesting is that increasingly the public seems to trust them less and less.
More worrying is the gullibility- to be kind- of the laughable opposition in parliament which claims to be on the side of the poor and yet passionately supports a myth that levers money out of the pockets of the poor through, as has been well documented on WUWT, the most regressive energy taxation to line the pockets of the already super-wealthy, egged on by the media and acting luvvies we see complaining about recent election defeats.
I don’t see much hope in the U.K. and hope Trump ends this insanity.

Griff
Reply to  Moderately Cross of East Anglia
February 7, 2017 3:19 am

Yes, the BBC, New Scientist, UK government, Royal Society, UK Met Office, all UK universities. Every aspect of UK… All accept the science of global warming.
Perhaps there is something in it, eh?
I can’t see any reason why they would all ‘make it up’

Reply to  Griff
February 7, 2017 5:10 am

Thirty years of alarmism by the climate trough parasites, whose income depends on continued alarmism for profits, fame and glory.
Thirty years of very expensive non-science that accomplished zilch. Actually, it has accomplished negative numbers. England is not longer a production powerhouse of a country. Alarmism has virtually killed mining, manufacturing, husbandry, refining and even farming.
Proud of that, are you giffiepoo? Millions of Pounds and Euros expended for higher electric bills, with no benefits.
That is known as delusion, giffiepoo.

BillB
Reply to  Griff
February 7, 2017 8:34 am

Groupthink is a well-known phenomenon, check the scientific literature on the subject.

myNym
Reply to  Griff
February 7, 2017 11:13 am

“Perhaps there is something in it, eh?”
Please show us then. Explain to us what brought on the Little Ice Age, and what has allowed us to escape its clutches.
As for those you listed, they are all following the gravy train. With all governmental funding to fake science being shut off in the US, what are your predictions regarding the scientific view in the US one year from now?

Phil
February 6, 2017 10:00 am

Replication is supposed to be the heart and soul of the scientific method. The allegations are that this paper failed internal replication. It doesn’t get any worse than that.

john harmsworth
Reply to  Phil
February 6, 2017 10:19 am

That’s their ethics kicking in! They always limit themselves to fraud and deceit! Oh yeah, and intimidation! Oops! Forgot political maneuvering. and embezzlement- occasionally embezzlement-just a little bit, for the cause! Outstanding fellows and ladies, really!

M Courtney
Reply to  Phil
February 6, 2017 10:32 am

Remarkably, it does get worse.
The defence at the Guardian is that it can be reproduced, instead of replicated. Other studies doing different things can be produced that have the same findings.
The point that those studies could reproduce other things too, if that was what was necessary, seems to elude them.
But this is a new attack on science. It’s up there with reversing the null hypothesis.
Reproduction is not Replication.

PiperPaul
Reply to  M Courtney
February 6, 2017 11:19 am

Ha! I read this as meaning: They can reproduce the studies (i.e., physically photocopy them or digitally copy the actual files), therefore ‘replication’ and validation.

keith
February 6, 2017 10:02 am

Highly unlikely BBC will report on this, it is a leading Fake News station.

Jack Okie
February 6, 2017 10:11 am

Hansen, Karl, Mann et al are not only wasting huge amounts of money and time, they are also diverting attention from two truly dangerous possibilities: Coronal Mass Ejections (Carrington Event) and asteroid impacts. Where would we be if all the money spent on global warming bs had been applied to hardening our electrical infrastructure or means of diverting / destroying dangerous asteroids?

Reply to  Jack Okie
February 6, 2017 11:10 am

Yep, it would take years, I think, to spot, assess, and calculate collision dates and diversion measures for asteroids. The more time and money we waste on CO2 climate change, the more time we take away from research and prep for the inevitable.
Let’s see now, what’s more important to worry about, in terms of human survival? — a few CO2 molecules or a kilometer-wide chunk of rock slamming into the planet at unimaginable velocity? It’s a tough call, but I go with the big rock thing.
… a few molecules of CO2 or a wave of solar particles threatening to reek havoc on the electrical functioning of civilization? Again, tough call, but I go with the electrical thing.

tabnumlock
Reply to  Jack Okie
February 7, 2017 6:11 am

Nukes are the way to stop/divert asteroids but a nuke explosion in space has never been tested and won’t be. Nukes are bad.

Reply to  tabnumlock
February 7, 2017 7:31 am

Nukes are good, but likely not the best for asteroids. What we really want, is to start capturing iron asteroids that wander near by.

nn
February 6, 2017 10:49 am

The inconvenient truth of the scientific domain’s limited frame of reference in both time and space.

Kaiser Derden
February 6, 2017 11:12 am

in any other industry which deals in such huge sums of public money this sort of fraud would be prosecuted … a defense contractor who behaved like this would be in the docket in no time …

February 6, 2017 12:04 pm

Nature journal has gone big on the president Trump and related events
http://www.nature.com/news/trumppresident-1.21186

Macha
Reply to  vukcevic
February 6, 2017 1:36 pm

Does that make Trump a “natural” phenomenon? Hmmmm…mirthiness indeed.!

H. D. Hoese
Reply to  vukcevic
February 6, 2017 1:45 pm

This is an interesting one. I read scientific papers on various subjects and most every week see that researchers are often baffled, whether they know it or not.
http://www.nature.com/news/researchers-baffled-by-nationalist-surge-1.21110

Keith
February 6, 2017 12:55 pm

Vukcevic: Nature has gone totally off science then?
John Harmsworth: sounds like the Spanish Inquisition:
our 2 weapons are fear, and surprise;
our 3 weapons are fear, surprise and ruthless efficiency….

Louis
February 6, 2017 2:52 pm

It’s worse than we thought! Looking at Josh’s graph, it is clear that the lies told by NOAA scientists increase at the same rate as CO2. Who knew that climate change causes lying? Is there anything the magic molecule can’t do?

Gunga Din
Reply to  Louis
February 6, 2017 3:11 pm

On the plus side, the more they attempt to defend CO2 based CAGW and The Hockey Stick, the more N2O (more commonly known as “Laughing Gas”) seems to be released.
(Of course, N2O itself is a greenhouse gas. Perhaps they should just admit the obvious so we can all cool off? 😎

co2islife
February 6, 2017 3:10 pm

My bet is that climate scientists that have been living in fear are going to be more willing to come out of the closet. What has amazed me is how long it went on before someone developed a conscious.
Climate Bullies Gone Wild; Caught on Tape and Print
https://co2islife.wordpress.com/2017/01/22/climate-bullies-gone-wild-caught-on-tape-and-print/
Climate “Science” on Trial; If Something is Understood, it can be Modeled
https://co2islife.wordpress.com/2017/02/06/climate-science-on-trial-if-something-is-understood-it-can-be-modeled/
How to Discuss Global Warming with a “Climate Alarmist.” Scientific Talking Points to Win the Debate.comment image

J Mac
February 6, 2017 3:25 pm

Very, very Good, Josh!
Cuts to the heart of the issue… and exposes it with piercing wit!

jim heath
February 6, 2017 8:56 pm

It’s bad enough having to put up with fake news, but fake science?

Steve Fraser
Reply to  Gareth Phillips
February 7, 2017 6:34 am
February 7, 2017 5:18 am

An official Federal Government website publishing testimony, as Mark links to: https://science.house.gov/news/press-releases/former-noaa-scientist-confirms-colleagues-manipulated-climate-records
Or some biased alarmist blog site with doubletalk and opinions, as gareth links?
Well, gareth has demonstrated faithful religious devotion to his global warming religion with negative reliability and zero credibility.

Stephen
February 7, 2017 7:31 am

http://www.thegwpf.com/content/uploads/2017/02/hadnoaasamebase.jpg
Is this a bit like President Trumps signature of doom for the climate scam, just a thought.

Rob
February 7, 2017 8:24 pm

Just hit the massive front page of Fox News Tuesday Night!!!
There is no hiding now.

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