Guest essay by Noel S. Williams
The Doomsday clock cannot simultaneously measure the threats of nuclear war and climate change.

The board of the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists recently issued their 2017 Doomsday Clock Statement: it is two and a half minutes to midnight. That’s alarming – the closest the clock has been to midnight since 1953, when the superpowers were testing the hydrogen bomb.
If they are so intent on scaring us silly, their symbolic clock should be accurate, and that’s problematic since it tracks disparate threats with varying degrees of urgency: nuclear war; climate change; and emerging technologies. The scientists’ stated motivation is to apply pressure to governmental leaders by calling on citizens “to express themselves in all the ways available to them.”
Their message would be more potent if they don’t conflate disparate threats. The notion of a single Doomsday Clock that conflates climate change with nuclear war and emerging technologies is convoluted.
The threat of nuclear war is more urgent. The timescales are more amenable to a clock which can be fine-tuned to accommodate specific events: rogue nations conducting nuclear tests; China rattling its sabers; India and Pakistan quarreling over Kashmir; Russia reneging on a deal on the disposal of weapons-grade plutonium; deployment of destabilizing weapons.
Climate change and anthropogenic global warming are a bit fuzzier. A Doomsday clock that purports to measure its trend line cannot be as precise as one that measures the threat of nuclear war. Moreover, the nature of the clock is inherently different: the Nuclear Doomsday clock can go counterclockwise — it has moved backwards with the signing of test ban and nonproliferation treaties, for example.
According to the scientific consensus on the trajectory and causes of global warming, there is no going back; indeed, we may already be at midnight. Even if we stop carbon dioxide emissions now, greenhouse gasses and temperatures will still grow. According to these scientists the arrow of time only moves forward for anthropogenic global warming; all we can do is slow the clock as it ticks inexorably towards a post-apocalyptic dawn.
If the clock measuring the threat of nuclear war can go backwards, but global warming is irreversible, how can they be calibrated simultaneously by the same Doomsday clock?
In 2015, the atomic scientists moved the clock forward two minutes, largely due to climate change: “Unchecked climate change, global nuclear weapons modernizations, and outsized nuclear weapons arsenals pose[s] extraordinary threats….[C]urrent efforts are entirely insufficient to prevent a catastrophic warming of Earth.” This wasn’t done in isolation, but in relation to previous movements that were based upon a nuclear threat that ticks at a different rate. The timescales of the threats are not concomitant and cannot be consistently measured by the hands of the same clock.
Besides the lack of symmetry, the imminence of the threat of nuclear war is measured in minutes. Decisions about DEFCON alerts are time-condensed as humans evaluate whether the sirens are due to a software flaw, space debris, a flock of geese, a gamma ray burst or, god-forbid, incoming ballistic missiles. The time horizon for a corresponding impact caused by climate change may be hours. (cont…)
The Doomsday Clock is a haunting reminder of some of the perils the human race faces, but even symbolic clocks should have consistent continuity.
On Friday – it’s weekend-o’clock
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That’s alarming
Would someone please shut off that stupid alarm?
The photo above makes it clear how Monty Pythonesque the whole doomsday stuff is. Gimme a break.
Obama got a Nobel peace prize for doing nothing, Trump got a doomsday prediction as if he’d actually capable of changing the ppm speed that Obama didn’t. I don’t like rude language but this is something that deserved a four letter word spared for real geniuses. Here.
Climate Doomsday? Here is the real Doomsday Bomb.
http://www.usdebtclock.org/
http://www.usdebtclock.org/sources/transparent2.gif
Here is the next doomsday clock I want to see from these “experts”
http://www.coolthings.com.au/sites/default/files/imagecache/product_full/Who_Cares_Im_Retired_clock_large.jpg
Well, I suspect they are actually right about nuclear war.
With the Obama/Kerry nuclear WW III on the horizon,
….those two have make it closer than a “duck and cover” drill.
After all,
China/Jinping are militarizing a big piece of the Pacific and want more,
…..who needs Hawaii/Pearl Harbor anyway?
Russia/Putin as they take the “Sudetenland”
…..who needs Ukraine or Europe?
and the sock puppets N.Korea and Iran will likely do obnoxious things.
Global Warming will continue for a given time period. The climate will then revert to Global Cooling. Unless the climate goes through a plateau phase.
Therefore the doomsday clock for Climate Change is a logical fallacy. An appeal to fear (also called argumentum ad metum or argumentum in terrorem.
Same applies for the nuclear doomsday clock. The old adage Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD).
Regards
Climate Heretic
By crikey, maybe we have stumbled onto something here.
Has anyone ever made a connection between nuclear testing and global warming?
i.e cause and effect.
Perhaps now we are seeing the effect of the testing in the Pacific and elsewhere. Still being continued here there and everywhere.
I remember seeing an Aurora BOREALIS in NZ when the Americans let one off at Johnston Atoll.
That was several lifetimes ago.
Honestly, who actually pays any attention to their silly clock thing?
Nobody listens anymore to the climate crew droning on about “five years to save the planet”, so two and a half minutes to save the planet isn’t going to get much traction either.
The more accurate clock is, of course:
Ah, but when they added in “climate change”, they forgot (as usual) to include the error bars. What they actually mean is two and a half minutes plus or minus an hour or so. Presumably minus, as we’re still here.
They should remember that they’re atomic scientists. Given the quality of the people with their fingers on the buttons, that is at least a credible threat.
Error bars would require a calendar.
Hmm, you’re probably right. Perhaps we could get The Clock of the Long Now interested … 😀
Searched Lawrence Krauss in Wikipedia and found this:
“he is known as an advocate of the public understanding of science, of public policy based on sound empirical data, of scientific skepticism and of science education, and works to reduce the influence of what he opines as superstition and religious dogma in popular culture.”
Pity these principles have been compromised by the unverifiable claims in the doomsday prophecy of his personal preference: http://thebulletin.org/sites/default/files/Final%202017%20Clock%20Statement.pdf
It’s a tough saving us from ourselves. Especially against our will. And yet the list of candidate has been long throughout the human history. If we now have to choose a mad scientist for the top job, I’d prefer Gyro Gearloose than Hector Hammond.
I have never once seen that stupid Doomsday Clock without thinking of Fritz Lang’s ‘Metropolis.’ I always get the image in my head of the poor guy moving what appear to be clock hands to match the illuminated bulbs to control the machine. At least his job earned a paycheck. Perhaps we should all practice our Duck and Cover drills?
I know it’s a bit OT. It’s just impossible to take these pompous panjandrums seriously.
Oh my God we’ve entered the final coral deepening phase and we’re all doomed-
http://joannenova.com.au/2017/02/world-is-going-to-hell-and-were-finding-new-coral-reefs-everywhere/
It’s a trick. That’s not really a clock.
Bullcrap. Entering an ice age, or even a mini-ice age would run the clock backwards. Even an extended non-warming period should move back a little.
The author is right in that the scientists see a TRAJECTORY that, despite blips, is generally heading one way. You should read the link he provides in the article. There is a stifling conformity in the scientific community that maintains that even if we stop producing greenhouse gasses now, temps from CO2 will still rise. Don’t necessarily agree with that, but they say the best we can do is alleviate the impact. I believe Mr. Williams is just saying that the scientist believe it may be too late to stop global warming ( http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/late-stop-global-warming/story?id=17557814) but NOT too late to turn the Nuclear Clock back.
What do these clowns know about the world, really.. Not much. Clock me arse
It is unfortunate that it takes time to determine that The Bulletin of Atomic Scientists is comprised of a group that contains no actual atomic scientists on their staff. The executive director has a degree in political science, the editor-in-chief an editor for a high end city magazine “Key West” among others (a public relations guy), one man in one of the published pictures associated with the press release is a former State Department employee turned lobbyist for Iran with ties to Boeing (part of the Iran deal), one has a PhD in meteorology who tried to link global warming to the Arab Spring, and finally an author of “The Physics of Star Trek”. No actual atomic scientists. To be fair there are a couple of actual physicists on their science and security board, but they are outnumbered by 3-1 with global warming political types.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/265617/fake-atomic-scientists-iranian-doomsday-against-daniel-greenfield
The Doomsday Clock appears to be handwaving political hype at best, and propaganda at worst. It’s a shame that we (myself included) always read with the assumption that an organization’s name indicates the training in the field that is being addressed.
This means they concluded that Obama is 4 times as dangerous as Donald Trump for moving the clock forward 2 minutes compared to Trump’s 30 sec.
Somebody forgot to toss in the Cuban Missile Crises
back in 62. Let me tell you, that was a hell of a lot
closer to nuclear war than these fools put us now.
Those were some frightful times, believe me.
The fact that “scientists” are promulgating such a subjective and overtly political statement as some kind of proxy for their ‘scientific opinion’ (sic) is a perfect commentary on the state of science today.
What happens at midnight ? Nothing
Look at the pose for the guy on the left … using his ‘very serious’ face LOL