By Chris White
President Donald Trump will sign an executive order Thursday indirectly targeting the Paris climate summit agreement signed by the Obama administration seeking to reduce carbon emission levels over the next two decades.
Trump will sign two memos broadly eliminating funding for any United Nations (U.N.) agencies which give full membership to terrorist organizations or which support programs that fund abortion. The memos would also direct committees to enact “at least a 40 percent overall decrease” in remaining funding toward international organizations and instruct committees to review any further treaties.
Trump, who made dismantling the Paris agreement a central part of his campaign message, does not intend to directly target the agreement, but instead will reduce U.N. funding, according to a Wednesday report by The News York Times.
Recent reports show 200 countries have reaffirmed pledges to comply with the Paris deal, which aims to keep so-called global warming below 2 degrees Celsius.
“[F]rom what we’ve seen the [executive order] does not mention the Paris Agreement directly, but rather that would be reviewed by default if in fact all multilateral treaties are to be reviewed,” Rhys Gerholdt, a spokesman for the environmental think tank World Resources Institute, told reporters shortly after TheNYT’s report was published.
David Waskow, the program director for World Resources Institute, questioned Trump’s authority to retroactively slash funding for any U.N. programs since defunding the agency’s obligations would take congressional action from appropriators.
“It’s hard to know what its effect is,” Waskow said. “One of the questions I’ve had is what the executive authority is they are going on, given that appropriations generally can direct those decisions.”
The memos appear to fall in line with comments made by Trump’s U.N. Ambassador, South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley, who told senators at her confirmation hearing in early January that she would impress upon the international agency that any solution to global warming must not come at the expense of U.S. businesses. The Republican also noted that she would not agree with last year’s Paris climate agreement if it results in draconian regulations that hurt American workers.
Trump once suggested that climate change is a “hoax created by China” to disrupt the U.S. economy and harm American business. He has since moderated his tone, telling reporters in December that he is “open-minded” on global warming and believes that climate change is probably naturally occurring.
He also promised to “cancel billions in global warming payments to the United Nations” and redirect the funds toward U.S. environmental programs instead, effectively undoing the $3 billion pledge former President Barack Obama made to the U.N.’s Green Climate Fund, a program giving funds to developing countries that reduce carbon emissions.
Pinch me.
Dang, you beat me to it!
LOL
+97
Wasn’t it the democrats that said..never let a crisis go to waste?
liberals are too busy trying to pick out which hat to wear to which parade…
…hit um now..and hit um hard
It is indeed a good day for freedom and rational thoughts. The crazy left is going to have a hard eight years in front of them. Now, we can have real science funded for a change.
This is not good. Looks like serious back-pedalling by Trump on this issue. This is nothing to do with abortion, this is a total evasion of they key issue.
He is making clear and fast moves on key issues in his first days. If this vague and indirect “maybe review some treaties” looks like a major climb down on what he had previously said.
what he needs to do is put UNFCCC on 12mo notice and kill the 4 year delay poisoned pellet that Obama put in place. That is the only clear way to undo the disloyal moves made by Obama to attempt to pre-empt possible actions by the new pres. AFTER Trump had been elected.
Very disappointing. Looks like someone has explained to him why he should play along.
This is not good. Looks like serious back-pedalling by Trump on this issue. This is nothing to do with making babies, this is a total evasion of they key issue.
He is making clear and fast moves on key issues in his first days. If this vague and indirect “maybe review some treaties” looks like a major climb down on what he had previously said.
what he needs to do is put UNFCCC on 12mo notice and kill the 4 year delay poisoned pellet that Obama put in place. That is the only clear way to undo the disloyal moves made by Obama to attempt to pre-empt possible actions by the new pres. AFTER Trump had been elected.
Very disappointing. Looks like someone has explained to him why he should play along.
Trump should just say the Paris climate accord looks like a treaty and just simply submit it to the Senate for a vote. Once the senate votes it down, then the US was simpliy NEVER in the agreement in the first place and thus no need to withdraw. Let congress take all the heat.
And hit em Constantly ! So we’re three miles down the road already by the time they figure out a response to yesterday’s news !
Rahm Emanuel said that, if memory serves.
All he needs to say is to send all the bills to Paris.
I read a good paper from the Capital Research Center last night. It was an excellent summary of the devious attempts to box the US into the Paris (non) Treaty. There is an “out” that I hadn’t seen before. The Paris work is a continuation of the RIO conference. The US signed the RIO agreement, but it can now cancel that agreement and everything since 92 goes with it. Now there is an option.
Pinch me.
This has to be a dream.
Yet another wonderful decision by the current Administration.
Reminds me of a song.
“The chickens … have come home … to roost!”
Rev [sic] Jeremiah Wright
This first week is going better than imagined.
This is the best timeline! 🙂
How does a stone rabbit run?
Like Rocky?
Same way that Wile E. Coyote flies off high cliffs.
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40% less caviar? Oh the humanity 🙂
flying cattle class in stead of first
Worse,New York’s hooker trade will be devastated! Oh the humanity!
not sure on this, un bureaucrats are allocated headcount for secretarial staff, to which they can hire people with the understanding of why they got the job, and that it can go away.
Whereas at the COP meeting in Copenhagen in 2009, they had to get more from Sweden.
Why were hermaphrodytes excluded from the March on Washington ??
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no V
“[F]rom what we’ve seen the [executive order] does not mention the Paris Agreement directly, but rather that would be reviewed by default if in fact all multilateral treaties are to be reviewed,”
It’s NOT a treaty, since it didn’t go through the senate approval process.
It is a treaty. As you observe, it is not in force. Yet it is still out there and subject to review. I can imagine that the coming review would rate the treaty as “less than favorable”, to put it gently.
It is a Presidential agreement. It is not in anyway binding international law although the US could continue to provide information on emissions, if desired. It was not presented to the Senate, so it is not a treaty. The new president can, through an executive order, simply say that the US has changed its mind.
http://www.lawfareblog.com/paris-agreement-climate-change-legitimate-exercise-executive-agreement-power
It was presented to the American people as anything but a treaty — for then it would have needed to go through the senate to be binding — so, from our perspective, it’s not a treaty to which we have any obligations.
Philo: It’s even better than that. Trump can simply ignore it. The stab-America-in-the-back deal Obama made has as much legal force as his bets with his golfing buddies.
The Paris scheme was dying when it arrived in the U.S..
No one was able to save it in the emergency room.
It is dead.
To add further, the Paris participants specifically crafted the agreement (not a treaty) to avoid having to undergo approval by the U.S. senate. They considered this “clever” since Hillary would win the presidency, and republicans would be frozen out of the decision process.
Now the shoe is on the other foot, since Obama is the only person to approve the treaty, and he is gone, then Trump is free to tear it up.
(A tricky . . not a treaty ; )
The UN “wants” it to be a treaty but to the US Government it is not until it is ratified by the Senate. Making our opposition to appear mushy reduces our target profile while still withholding money and getting the point across.
Submitting it to the Senate is a great idea.
Get it voted down – adds clarity to the US position
Kyoto went down 97-0 IIRC
Kyoto was also never presented to the Senate.
What was voted on 97-0 was a resolution that stated that a treaty such as Kyoto was unacceptable to the senate.
I’m pretty sure the resolution didn’t mention Kyoto by name, but the description given left no doubt as to what was being referred to.
Since Paris Accord is “for the Children” we can take it out of the UNICEF fund.
Our $500 M that is.
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I agree. Send this to the Senate and get this thing formally rejected (it requires a 2/3 majority to pass). Put the Democratic Congress critters on record as favoring higher energy bills, crippling American businesses and future growth. A big defeat of this would make all future administrations much less likely to try and resuscitate this sad puppy.
Given the democrats current strategy, they would vote to ratify it just as a poke in the eye to Trump.
Doesn’t matter if the all the Democrats vote on it. There aren’t enough of them. Thank God.
A Senate vote would also force Senators to go on record. 2018 and 2020 approach. And it would make CNN’s and MSNBC’s and AP’s talking heads explode, not being entirely The Donald quashing it.
A treaty requires 67 votes to pass – an impossibility with such a flaky subject like ACC.
No it is NOT a treaty. What my lips : Paris AGREEMENT.
It was deliberately framed as a “agreement” to get around the US Senate issue. Obama has “accepted” this agreement on behalf of the US. Trump now needs to undo that move. Pulling out of UNFCCCP is probably the fastest and clearest way to do that.
Greg: that is my reading as well. Dr. Steven Allen at the Capital Research Center has a major expose on the agreement/treaty or whatever. IIRC it was designed to be an agreement under the original RIO Treaty/Agreement – which was ratified by the US Senate. If so, it can be an agreement within an already signed Treaty- hence doesn’t have to go Senate. There is a clause in the the RIO treaty/agreement that nations can withdraw after three years (so 1995?). If the US senate were to withdraw from Rio it would dump the UNEP/UNFCCC/IPCC/Paris because they all resulted from RIO. If this is true it would be the perfect solution to the whole mess. I got my reference to Allen’s paper from Scott Walker’s newsfeed: it was dated 18 Jan.
It is not a treaty… but Obama had buried the enforcement mechanism in the NOW defunct TPP which had a clause in it that the US MUST adhere to ALL international climate agreements, as well as the EPA CPP or be subject to paying fines to any member country that claimed there country/economy was suffering damages as a result of our CO2 emissions. Obama was quite the sly one.
I would like to see these countries try to collect from us…never going to happen. We do not respond very well to extortion threats. We can go from zero to boom very quickly.
What?
So Trump’s “indirectly targeting” it? No, DIRECTLY target it.
This is a joke. Scores of times Trump said that he would get us out of Obama’s Paris Accord. This is the #1 key policy issue for skeptics. But a couple weeks after the election Trump appeared to renege on his promise on the Paris Accord. My concern was then amplified when a few days after that Trump nominated the warmist & Paris Accord pushing Rex Tillerson for Sec of State, who in practice would have responsibility for international climate agreements.
“Indirectly targeting” the Paris Accord but not getting out of it would ultimately achieve little, and would leave the Paris monstrosity in place. I appreciate Trump canceling funding in many cases, but why the beating around the bush with the Paris Accord? I get tired of the half-measures, or quarter-measures: the full measure is cleanly pulling out of the Paris Accord.
I don’t know why most of us appear to be idolizing Trump regardless of what he does. I see how we could be thrilled with parts of his tough rhetoric and some of his actions, but on the critical point, the Paris Accord, he’s falling short. We need to not just idolize him but PUT PRESSURE ON TRUMP (!) to hopefully get him to take the right action. It’s not about “Trump love.” It’s about policy.
And btw the warmist liberal Elon Musk seems to like Trump’s pick of the warmist Tillerson:
I’m with you Eric. DIRECTLY TARGETING the Paris Agreement should be the way to go! This other guff should be IN ADDITION TO.
There must be a zero-tolerance policy deployed when it comes to addressing this issue, especially after those promises he made during his election campaign. Eric has correctly called it a joke..
I disagree all Trump has to do is not supply any money to the Paris Agreement and there is nothing they can do about it.
Trump may simply have been advised that this is the quickest and best way to skin the cat without legal challenge. He’s a businessman not a bureaucrat.
Many of us aren’t used to winning in politics anymore; even partial victories.
Since Paris is non-binding, cutting off a significant portions of funds to the UN may be a bigger fiscal win than a (symbolic) Paris exit by itself. Ideally he will do both. He may yet. Let’s keep the pressure on.
Once we make the move, others will follow.
You are absolutely right, Eric, though a voice in the wilderness it seems. “Indirectly targeting” is drawing a long bow, if not delusional. Tillerson is bad news. Period. How could Trump even touch Tillerson’s nomination with a barge pole if Trump’s past bagging of alarmism was for real? From what we’ve seen of Trump, I’m not sure that “PRESSURE” will achieve much.
Hear hear…
Eric’s voice in the wilderness is not the only one that can be heard. If you listen very hard, one or two others can also be heard.
I knew this all seemed too good to be true.
Sigh….
Oh please, his nominees aren’t even confirmed yet! Give him a little bit of time to get his people in place! As to Trump’s plans, I think his sacking of 4 top State Dep’t employees today was a VERY good start!
Graham “Tillerson is bad news. Period.”
Thanks Graham, plus ClimateOtter, Alan Vaughn, Latitude, and Rob Morrow. I’m hoping for the best, but expecting … less than perfect. And I don’t see why we can’t get perfect after winning this key election, and holding both chambers in congress.
Guys, Trump is “flexible”. He cuts deals. That is what he does. He changes position like most people change underwear and that is a good thing sometimes. But first he has to be convinced.
Take the torture issue for example. During the campaign he was for it and made me cringe but then after one meeting with General “give me a pack of cigs and a bottle of wiskey and I’ll get better results” Mattis and he changes his mind.
That was smart because aside from being immoral, unethical, evil etc, torture just doesn’t work.
So who on the pro-AGW side is as knowledgeable and convincing at climate as Gen Mattis is at his specialty? I can’t think of anyone. Not even close. The odds of Trump throwing good money after bad is ZERO. First you cut off the air supply (money) then you see what’s left. Once the smoke clears you clean up the rest. By then nobody will care because their gravy train left town for good without them.
my understanding is all he has to do is not go to the meeting…. 😉
I was hoping as well that Trump would stick to his guns on the Paris Accord however it appears he has a long history with the planet’s globalists including Soros, Rockefeller & Co….
http://philosophyofmetrics.com/how-rothschild-inc-saved-donald-trump-freepom/
http://wearechange.org/george-soros-forgive-trump-312-million-debt/
Well, if Trump kills the Paris Agreement, you guys are going to be expected to apologize. You know that, don’t you?
I don’t care how it is done, as long as the money flow stops. Dead.
Trump, who made dismantling the Paris agreement a central part of his campaign message, does not intend to directly target the agreement, but instead will reduce U.N. funding, according to a Wednesday report by The News York Times.
OK, where are they getting that Trump “does not intend to directly target the agreement”? I mean sure, THIS particular memo doesn’t specifically target Paris, but it sure is a shot in it’s general direction. And it definitely doesn’t preclude something more specific later. Nowhere have I seen where Trump or one of his people have said he doesn’t still plan to dump Paris. Hell, I don’t even see in the New York Times article linked where it says that Trump isn’t going to target it directly.
And while we’re on the subject of things that don’t make much sense, why is it that, barely a week into Trump’s Presidency (a week where Trump has already fired many initial shots at Obamacare, the EPA, and now the UN) do I keep seeing alleged Trump supporters trying to whip up fury and indignation among REAL Trump supporters that Trump isn’t going to keep his campaign promises?
I’d LOVE to believe this is all a false flag operation by the Dems to undermine Trump’s support, but I’m afraid it’s much worse then that. I think there’s just to many gullible people who still haven’t learned that just because the MSM says something, that doesn’t mean it’s true. They’ve seen the reports and articles claiming that Trump is bowing to pressure from China, that his people are abandoning his position on Climate, or that he (gasp) actually hired a guy that doesn’t agree with him 100% on ever issue, and that this means he isn’t going to do what he said he would before the election. And the really sad part is, people are actually buying it. As if the MSM hasn’t been wrong about Trump on nearly every other issue. This time they KNOW what he’s going to do!
And it just happens to be what THEY wish he would do. ~¿~
Srsly, why would anyone just believe that? Why would they think I’D believe it?
Frankly, as far as I’m concerned, Trump has ALREADY kept his campaign promises. ONE WEEK, and already the Liberals, Progressives, or whatever the Socialist Unjustice Warriors are calling themselves today are running scared. The ant hill has been kicked. The dam around the Swamp has been breached. And unless I see otherwise, I’m not going to believe this is all he’s going to do just because a media that hates him and everything he stands for says so.
We should be cheering this, not booing because our enemies claim he’s finished before he’s even started.
schitzree “Nowhere have I seen where Trump or one of his people have said he doesn’t still plan to dump Paris. ”
It’s not “fake Trump supporters” that have raised doubts on Trump’s commitment to follow through on his campaign promise … it’s TRUMP HIMSELF. Two weeks after the election: Paris climate deal: Trump says he now has an ‘open mind’ about accord: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/22/donald-trump-paris-climate-deal-change-open-mind
Three days later Trump nominated for Sec of State the warmist Tillerson. Here’s Tillerson in October of last year: “At ExxonMobil, we share the view that the risks of climate change are serious… [and favor] the Paris agreement.” Tillerson later confirmed that he shares those views, that they are not exclusively Exxon’s, and also that he hopes to influence Trump on climate. All bad.
Now this.
Ohhhhh, well. If that bastion of truth and fair dealing The Guardian says it, it must be true. <¿<
Srsly, did you read that article before posting it? Because the only part of Trump's actual words they were willing to quote was “I’m looking at it very closely. I have an open mind to it.”
Of course, to a Leftist, an 'Open Mind' means you're going to agree with them, because only closed minded people disagree with lefty opinion.
Well, in any case. Thanks for so thoroughly proving my point about people believing what the MSM tells them to believe about Trump. I honestly couldn't have provided a better example. ~¿~
@schitzree
BINGO!
Eric, I can understand your trepidation over Tillerson’s quote.
“At ExxonMobil, we share the view that the risks of climate change are serious… [and favor] the Paris agreement.”
But he no longer represents ExxonMobil!
The Guardian. The New York Times. If you can get a report from CNN, you’ll have hit the trifecta. Sorry, but I take anything those “news” outlets have to say about Trump and his plans with a huge helping of salt. And if you don’t know why one should do so, you clearly haven’t been paying attention to the kind of warped, biased coverage (to put it nicely) they’ve been giving ever since Trump threw his hat in the ring.
@schitzree – it is a false flag operation. Some of the democrats (most did not) learned during the campaign that nothing you can say about Trump is going to diminish his support from his base. They expect everything to be thrown at him (and as is being proven, almost all of it is a lie). So they try to change what his supporters see him as.
The problem is, they did not learn that their vehicle for the dissemination of the disinformation will not be believed by his supporters! If the WaPo came out tomorrow with a headline “The Sky is blue”, half the country would not believe it!
Should the MSM ever start to stop pumping out fake news, the supporters may start to believe them. But it will take a history of factual reporting, not a one off (which is all anyone gets these days) from the MSM for people to begin to start trusting what they report.
This is what, day 4 effectively, of President Trump’s administration? He doesn’t even have all his department heads in place yet. Give him some time. So far he has made good on the campaign promises that he has addressed. There’s no reason to believe at this point that he won’t keep it on the Paris agreement as well. Don’t be so impatient. It takes time to clear out decades of crap.
I agree Paul. Confiscating the fuel is as good as banning the motor vehicle.
The reports by the Guardian, the NYT and CNN are now the gospel truth? After they elected Clinton three weeks BEFORE the election and the projection that “If the GOP picks Trump” it will put “a Democrat” into the WH? ( July 2016).
Sorry but the MSM needs at least a year of truthful reporting , unfalsified and verifiable statements before I believe a word they say or print!
The lying has got to stop from ALL SIDES!
You’re assuming the MSM knows they’re lying, asybot: the problem with Progressive/Marxist ideology is that lying is the preferred method of communicating; they find it’s far more fun to make up stories than go to the effort of getting the truth.
Honest!
EM knows better than to bite the hand that feeds him.
I think that this administration is going to slow roll their stance on AGW until they get everyone in place. I listened to Tillerson, Pruitt, and one other respond to AGW related questions using very similar phrases in their answer. When I first listened to Tillerson’s response I was worried. Then after watching the next several hearings I would bet that this is their strategy for now. All of them state that they would favor further debate on the subject. That sounds a positive note to my ears.
Not to mention that actual DEBATE on the subject will not go the way warmists would like
Thanks Eric. I’m glad some here are capable of a little critical thinking instead of wishful thinking.
Trump is all about decisive action. This looks like DECISIVE INACTION.
critical thinking?
5 minutes into the car ride, and some of the children are already screaming ‘are we there yet!’ Or like Eric, trying to convince everyone else the car isn’t moving and that they should all jump out. That’s not what I call thinking, critical or otherwise.
I agree with Eric.
Leaving the Paris agreement in the bottom drawer and ignoring it is just as duplicitous as Obama leaving it there and supporting it.
Just submit the damn thing for a vote and have it rejected formally. Let congress take the heat and then defend congress.
It’s always best to confront the bully.
Ooops . . I mean the Senate, not Congress.
Noooo, not the money! I think we’ll have to start measuring all the leftist heads exploding in units of Hiroshima nuclear bombs, megajoules just won’t cut it anymore.
Just had a lefty friend tell me that we dare not enforce the border… Because Mexico might just let terrorists in… Let that sink in a bit HAHAHAHAHAHA
Are we popping the corks a little early on this one? It is possible that the memos can lead to these results but not certain. Wouldn’t it be more effective to announce our intention to withdraw from the Paris Accord. That may allow other governments if so inclined to follow our lead.
Think we can make a good case with the voters that Paris is simply a transmission vehicle for their tax money. Guess we will have to stick around and find out.
He has no choice but to defund UNFCCC completely because they admited Palestine to full membership last yera. Law on the books sonce 1990 that the Senate reminded Kerry about at the time, and which Kerry and Obama ignored in violation of their oath of office and section 3 of Article 2 of the Constitition. And GCF, by a related ‘affiliates’ law from 1994. And Abortion by reinstated the ‘Mexico City rule’ first instituted by Reagan.
This isn’t news. Its just obeying the law.
NYT:
I hope that the will get the necessary recommendations.
I fully expected this as did Marc Morano (Climate Depot) and many more… He’s gutless. Easy to make promises, different to actually honoring them. He’s no different to any other politician – scared of upsetting the PC liberal elites, so he’s bowed down to them.
He has absolutely nothing to lose by keeping the promises he made on his campaign trail, only plenty to GAIN. For everyone.
With the bigoted Socialist Greens there must be a zero tolerance policy – give them an inch and they’ll snatch a mile. By taking this half-hearted ‘flexible’ stance he’s effectively given them 2 miles…
Forget it. He was our last hope and he’s betrayed us.
CAGW hoax based Socialist world government ruled, totalitarian society is now a REALITY for us all…
Thanks Don…
AV, I respectully disagree with your extreme position. Paris is voluntary. How on God’s green earth did you just conclude Trump will comply. An empty document is best just ignored. He is defunding uberParis UNFCCC. H is building the southern wall. He will make Mexico pay by exiting Nafta (there is an opt out) and imposing tarrifs. He will defund sanctuary cities, they will sue, and they will lose because breaching Constitutionally valid laws at their option is unconstitutional and unlawful. Try not paying your taxes because you ‘object’ and see what happens. Don’t go extremist rogue at such an enjoyable time. Sit back, relax, make some more popcorn, emit positive vibes.
Calm down! Don’t hyperventilate. The man hasn’t even been in office for a week yet. Give him some time before you declare him a failure.
Oh, there’s definitely some gutlessness going around. But I’m afraid it isn’t Trump’s.
Picture this: First away game for the Puxatony Pakiderms. First play, quarterback snaps the ball to the receiver for a 20 yard advance. But some of the fans start booing because the local sports announcer just claimed that since the quarterback hasn’t scored a touchdown yet he must be planing to throw the game, and those fans are apparently to dumb to realize that the local isn’t a neutral observer.
I said it above, but it needs repeating.
ONE. WEEK.
Is Trump’s cabinet even in place yet?
So why are so many people ready to throw in the towel because all the countries problems haven’t been solved yet? >¿<
True… As they say: Rome wasn’t built in a day.
ristvan “He will [partially] defund sanctuary cities..”
That won’t be enough to stop the sanctuary city policy, with rare exception.
But Trump apparently just told Paul Ryan that he’s NOT going to follow through with his campaign promise to nix Obama’s Executive Amnesty. So Obama’s Executive Amnesty effectively becomes Trump’s Executive Amnesty.
As far as the Paris Accord, why did Trump backtrack on that? Trump has had plenty of opportunity to state explicitly that he wants out of the accord since he expressed his ambivalence about it, but no. Just state it plainly: we’re getting out of the effin accord. Why continue to kowtow to the PC left on this????
Alan – Don’t panic or jump to conclusions. Calm yourself by looking for the meaning of the word “Backpfeifengesicht”. cheers GK
Yeah, really, give Trump a week or two, how about it.
A couple of half-truth press releases is apparently all it takes to send some people off into wild speculation.
Here’s the secret: Don’t believe *any* interpretation of Trump’s words by the MSM. Listen to Trump directly, if you want to know what he is about. The MSM makes it their job to confuse you, and it looks like they are having some success.
+1 Media has gone from reporting to OpEd on everything.
I know that TA. I go out of my way to avoid the fake-news peddled by MSM. Good that you’re seeing the world the way I do – they way it REALLY is, we’re on the same page. Wished a lot more would remove their rose tinted glasses so they too could see what you and I see…
troe – “withdraw from the Paris Accord”? How can we withdraw from something we were never IN? The only way we were ever IN, in a legal sense, was in the imagination of Obama – a legal genius in his own mind. He wanted us to be in but the rest of the country never agreed, therefore there is nothing we need to withdraw from. Announcing our intention to withdraw is strongly inferring that we were engaged and now want out – and that would give a very wrong impression.
I think that’s semantics, NW. That’s exactly what Trump said time and time again on the campaign trail: he would get us OUT of the accord. The libs asked Trump in November if he’s getting out of the accord, and Trump said he has “an open mind” about staying in it. You may have a semantic point, but it would be easy for Trump to say simply: “well, *whatever* the connection we have to the Paris Accord, that connection is done with.” But no.
+1 It won’t take long for nations and rabid environmentalists to figure out the US is no longer a participant and the shaming and name calling starts. Then it won’t take long for the other few countries that are designated Climate Change donors to join us after figuring out they are left holding the short end of the stick and we are on the road to economic recovery and CAGW is a disproven theory.
Seems to me there are a lot of False Flag Operations going on here.
” I voted for Trump but now I disavow him because he hasn’t done (after four days) everything I wanted him to.”
Virtually everyone I know voted for Trump. I know of no one with that opinion.
Thank you Mister President!
American farmers, the ones that supply 75% of the world’s grain exports, need carbon dioxide. Of course every living thing ultimately needs atmospheric carbon dioxide.
My understanding of the way Federal funding works is that Congress appropriates the money. But the President has the power to impound all or some of the appropriation. In other words the President can’t go above the amount that Congress appropriated but he can reduce it or spend less. Please correct me if I am wrong.
During the Nixon administration congress passed a law that requires the president to spend all moneys appropriated by congress. Nixon vetoed it, but congress over rode the veto.
I don’t know if that particular has been ruled on by the courts.
That would be a very clumsy way for a government to operate. The US Congress frequently adds in little vote-buying boondoggles to the budget. To actually spend that money would be a tragic waste. America would have trillion dollar budget deficits on a regular basis.
MW, it is more complicated. There is mandatory and then there is discretionary. Nixon thing was over ‘mandatory’. Much appropriation is ‘up to’ discretionary. Foreign aid being one specific example. One ‘up to’ mechanism being Congress simply not specifying the fiscal spend year, which allows agencies and departments fo accumulate Congressionally funded surpluses, wink wink– another corner of the swamp to be drained. That was Obama’s first GCF $500 million trick. The second recent tranche violated clear 1994 law.
It is in the Constitution. The Senate must have 67 votes to override a Presidential veto.
Oh happy Day!
PMK
This week I made a new bumper sticker for my ’66 Cruiser….
TRUMP
Obama’s True Legacy
Feel free to steal it
RW, very nice. I just did.
Install your sticker and a warmer will :key” your paint.
Entire interior and exterior are 3/8 inch thick bedliner. It has driven through trees, rocks, even broke a tire off and got bent panels covered in it, still unmarred. Unless someone has the strength of the hulk, a key aint gonna hurt it.
You from Indiana, Robert? ’cause that sounds like Farm-boy tech. ^¿^
I figure it’s only a matter of time before the military discovers the incredibly armor potential of spay on bedliner. There’s stories around here about guys tornado proofing their trailers with a thick enough layer of the stuff. •¿●
Thank you Mr. Trump. You made many of us proud of our vote!!!!
Instead of issuing an Executive Order, he would be better off presenting the Paris agreement to the Senate, so they can turn it down. That way, future administrations would be hard pressed to defend a reinstatement of the commitment made by the Obama Administration in any U.S. court of law. It would be a dead letter in the USA, just as the League of Nations was.
That would draw attention to the Paris whatever..
Much better to just deal with it at review time, and ignore it until then.
It is an irrelevant piece of paper.
Yes, actually.
It’s the good old Anglo-German Naval Agreement trick. An oldie, but a goodie. (And it sounds so fair and honest.)
But that only works if you put any real teeth in it, anyway, which they didn’t.
So, as much as I’d enjoy seeing it struck by extreme weather and cast upon the rocks, I’m content to just sit back and watch nature take its course.
Yes, it is a hill to die on; it really is that bad. But I don’t think we have to. Between Pruitt an Ebell, this one is going to die on the vine.
“Instead of issuing an Executive Order, he would be better off presenting the Paris agreement to the Senate, so they can turn it down.”
I think so, too. That way it’s not just Trump rejecting the Paris Agreement, it is the whole United States, represented by the U.S. Senate, that rejects it, and it will be rejected, since it requires a two-thirds majority to pass. I’m betting even some Democrats would vote against it.
And what better forum for debating the theory of human-caused climate change? The alarmists don’t want to debate this subject, but they would have to debate it in a Senate hearing.
DW,
This does raise the fundamentally important question of whether future reformist tactics might include USA departing from the United Nations. As earlier, the League of Nations was left to damp squid.
Some people think that the Trump people are being outlandishly audacious. I think that there are many more Sacred Cows to be put on the review list. Much as you might read this as contrary to your long-cherished beliefs, there is a case to question the continuation of the national park concept in its present form.
Geoff
Don’t you just love it? Water melon heads exploding worldwide, can you smell it ?
Wasn’t it a presidents executive dicision by Obama to bypass Congress and join the Paris accord?
L, no. Treaties requiring 2/3 Senate ratification were defined long ago by Thomas Jefferson as imutable save by mutual consent. Congressinally approved Pacts avoid that by having an opt out; NAFTA is an example. Paris isn’t even that although it has an opt out, because it isn’t binding. It is a mere executive agreement under the third of three narrow circumstances, in this case the last claise of section 3 of Article 2 of the Constitution.
R, I understand your comment about treaties. It’s been discussed at length on not just this site. But I never mentioned one. I know exactly what the Paris accord is and it is not a treaty. Our socialist bent prime minister in Australia lent his signature to it on our behalf. We’ll thank him later. (😈)
My asking the question about Obama signing up America on your behalf while circumventing Congress. Was merely an inquiry as to wether or not Trump can cancel out his “agreement” as easily. All be it with an “opt” out of what, 3 years or is it 4?
Is Trump obligated to give such a lengthy notice? Considering it was one man of some 330 million that volunteered America.
L, just saw your comment. He can opt out of UNFCCC in 1 year. He can optmoit of Paris after 3, but cannot serve notice in the first year Paris is effective, so pragmatically 4. Just a stroke of his pen.
According to the above sentence Trump will STAY in the Paris Accord.
I don’t know why were all jumping up and down for joy.
“Reducing funding” by 40% for some UN climate agency achieves little. If Trump keeps us in the Paris Accord that’s a major betrayal.
Eric, read it again. The UNFCC is ground zero of the climate hype. The US contribution just dropped to $0. And more actions are forthcoming.
Agreed.
The idea that the Paris agreement would not be shredded is not from the POTUS or his staff, it is the opinion of the author of the article. It is my opinion that the President will be shredding the Paris agreement AND reducing UN funding.
It’s the NYT reporting this… all bets off on veracity.
You want to have some fun? Go to the New York Times article that the quote about Trump ‘does not intend to directly target the agreement’ above links to, and actually look for where it says that. You won’t find it.
Want to have some REAL fun? Do a GOOGLE search for “does not intend to directly target the agreement” and you’ll get at least a half dozen articles that have the whole sentence, word for word, including the link back to the New York Times article that DOESN’T ACTUALLY SAY THAT. >¿<
In other words, congratulations Eric. It's Fake News. And I was apparently wrong above. There IS a False Flag operation pushing this thing. A very well coordinated one at that.
So Eric, are you a Spy, or just a dupe?
Stop believing the press. You are being manipulated.
I would suggest that if you apply any veracity to a NYT construct, you should be conversing on Septical Science…
The question of the day:
Did the UNFCCC not know that admitting Palestine would force the US to withdraw under long standing domestic legislation. This exact issue has come up before in the UN and has been contentious. I do not think it is plausible to claim that the UNFCCC was unaware of the consequences of their actions.
In any event, with the US out of the UNFCCC, the Paris Accord is history.
They did. They thought Obama would look the other way. He did. They thought Hillary would win the election, and protect his legacy. Oops.
We will probably never know just how many people where betting on Hillary continuing to cover up their Illegal operations that were started under Obama.
But we’ll know who MOST of them are. Drain the Swamp! And leave ‘Um flopping in the drying muck. :p
They knew. US defunded UNESCO in 2011 under the same law, for the same reason.
Hit first, hit hard, hit often. Mr. Trump is clearly a man of his word and a man of action. Meanwhile the media is still arguing about the inauguration. What complete maroons. They still don’t get it.
never let a crisis go to waste
The MSM is so locked in the locked into the ‘this is the way we always manipulate public opinion’ mode that they still haven’t realized Trump has already out maneuvered them. He acts so quickly on so many things at once the media cannot catch up. By the time they figure out what is going on and try to figure out how to try to bend popular opinion to their point of view he has already created three new major news stories/events/issues for them to fret about. By the time the Hollywood sycophants get on board and start crying they are a week late and the issue has been put to bed.
“The MSM is so locked in the locked into the ‘this is the way we always manipulate public opinion’ mode that they still haven’t realized Trump has already out maneuvered them.”
I think you nailed it there, NW sage. Every question these MSM reporters ask is meant to try to trip Trump up, and they try so hard, and Trump just rolls over them like a steamroller. It’s like Christmas every day since Trump’s election. More, more, more! I’m not tired of winning, Donald. Keep it coming.
A lie travels halfway around the world before truth can get its pants on, so goes the old saying. But in that same time, Trump’s been to the moon and back and already breaking ground for a new line of lunar condos.
Yes, it’s great. They are still back at the starting gate somewhere or off in the weeds.
WOW 🙂
$3 billion dollars to the UN for climate change, barely mentioned by the media, who hide the proposed expenditure. That’s 25% of the cost of the fence on the Southern border (which was approved, and partially funded in 2006, by the Congress in 2006, supported by Obama, Clinton, Reid et. al. and signed into law by President Bush.
Now the MSM suddenly wonder where the money comes from for the wall while they hid the UN giveaway. Do they consider the cost benefits of reducing flow of drugs across the border, supporting emigrants who flood our schools and our welfare system while undermining jobs for US citizens by working under the table and not paying taxes. Does anyone believe all the people who do your landscaping are paying income and Social Security taxes?
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I know where another $8 billion can come from.
any sensible country would be at war with Mexico right now…
drugs and human trafficking if nothing else
It’s one of those unique relationships, I’m afraid. Mexico is suffering terribly. Not even their judges are safe. Talk about your terrorist takeovers.
Mexico takes the wall as an insult, as well (as would anyone, justified or no).
It’s typical fuzzy-headed thinking to imagine that the wall has to be 100% complete to be effective and draw the utterly false analogy of a bucket with a leak in it.
If the wall is, say, 50% complete, that means you now can almost double your manpower on the remaining 50% open. But anyone who ever played a wargame even once in his life has already doped that one out.
So one can make all the moral arguments against the wall one wishes to make. But don’t kid yourself that if they do build it, it won’t work.
“Now the MSM suddenly wonder where the money comes from for the wall while they hid the UN giveaway.”
I know the answer to that one: Mexico! 🙂 No doubt about it. Watch and see.
The media and the general public are flabbergasted – a politician who actually does what he said he was going to.
Now, that is incredible – unprecedented.
@Evan Jones
As an old time Wargamer and Army Veteran I completely concur with your assessment.
The function of the wall is to provide Area Denial and funnel personnel into the killing fields. Only these will be arresting fields.
The media doesn’t understand this, or at least feign ignorance.
They used to feign ignorance. Now they educate the ignorance into them at the getgo. (At great expense in time, trouble, and treasure.)
You should know that you do Trump an injustice by calling him a politician. :]
It’s below freezing here now but oh what a lovely night, day, then night then ……
PS: DJT is just terrific !
I am Trumpeting!
Things are not so happy for us here in the UK:-
…… Theresa May hailed the United Nations, praised the World Bank, …… And Mrs. May also spoke of the necessity for multilateralism in stark contrast with the line pushed by the White House — which prefers bilateralism — over recent days. She cited the need to tackle “climate change” as one of the reasons to back globalist institutions.
See http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/26/britains-theresa-may-in-u-s-uses-daesh-instead-of-islamic-state-proclaims-belief-in-liberty-despite-expanding-uk-surveillance-state/
The only thing I can think of here is that she has the Brexit vote coming up and she needs to look strong and move to the left to get a few more votes? Otherwise she is just another phony politician who can’t be trusted or she has no backbone and is afraid to speak what she thinks in fear of the EU left.
Yes, indeed, jjs. Those were her words (“climate change” as a genuine issue). Watch — what — she — does.
All is well.
Keep calm, and carry on. 🙂
Margaret Thatcher had a saying to cover times like this, “I smell the subtle stench of APPEASEMENT.”
JM, yup. Popcorn time. The peral clutching is hilarious.
Right and right again, she wants everyone to think that her hand was forced by a “deplorable” public, it’s a lot easier to negotiate when you appear to have some degree of “like mindedness” with the folks across the table … on a related note she seemed absolutely giddy earlier today, that she was invited to the Republican Retreat in Philly, and her words were very much in line with the current administration.
Margaret thatcher was trained as a scientist and believed in AGW.
seaice1 is wrong again.
(from pp. 729-30 of WUWT 10th Anniv. anthology)
Excellent quote, Janice.
Proving seaice1 wrong, the gift that keeps on giving. ^¿^
“seaice1 January 26, 2017 at 3:18 pm
Margaret thatcher was trained as a scientist and believed in AGW.”
She was a chemist.
Thanks for that quote about Thatcher, Janice. It looks like Thatcher is one of us.
Brexit AND ditching Climate Change AND Trump would be a delicious spectacle to watch on the BBC, but 2 out of 3 ain’t bad.
I din’t think it is quite right to say I was proved wrong, but indeed as pointed out Margaret did recant her views on global warming. However, all I have read suggests a disapproval of the reaction to global warming rather than a rejection of the science. If someone can post something she said or wrote that confirms she rejected the scientific basis of AGW I will concede unreservedly.
You knew your Thatcher claim was wrong before you made it. That is called lying. Now STOP lying. GK
G. Karst says: “That is called lying.” We no longer use the term “lying” anymore these days, today we refer to it as providing “alternate facts.”
The stupidity of the Paris accord is that we (nations in general) waste trillions of dollars in precious resources to enable other nations to continue to create the problem that they say is imminent and apocalyptic. So we waste money for no real impact on the supposed problem.
And 200 countries signed on to it. PT Barnum was correct.
Phil,
In case you haven’t heard and want to know what the trillions of dollars are really enabling and what those 200 countries actually signed up for, (but don’t tell the people who elected them and trusted them anything about it), read here:
http://www.newswithviews.com/DeWeese/tom267.htm
and here: http://carbon-sense.com/2016/07/17/a-summary-of-betrayal/
And uncle google can uncover much more of the same..
This is the scam that the climate change / CAGW horror story is masking.
While everyone’s arguing about the pseudo science of whether CAGW is real or not, they’re not seeing the huge elephant in the room. And of course, that’s exactly what the Socialist green scaremongers want us all to do…
The intent has always been to kill Western Capitalism so they are on target.
The 200 countries that signed up are not the suckers, they are just getting in line for the gravy train. The real suckers are the taxpayers of the western world who have to pay the money to all those nations who signed up. On top of that, China and India’s increasing CO2 production will negate all the CO2 reduction efforts of other countries, so all that money is spent and it won’t make a difference.
The countries designated as the “givers” are indeed suckers – at least the leaders of said countries are. The leaders designated as “takers” are, perhaps not suckers, but stupid. They fully expected free people to be enslaved by their leaders.
Drain the trough!
…and repeal the tax exemption for environmental orgs.
Couldn’t help but notice that David Waskow, “…the program director for World Resources Institute, questioned Trump’s authority to retroactively slash funding for any U.N. programs since defunding the agency’s obligations would take congressional action from appropriators.”
What are the chances that Mr. Waskow questioned President Obama’s authority to unilaterally add $500 million to the UN Green Fund days before being shown the door.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/01/18/president-obama-just-transferred-another-500-million-to-the-un-green-fund/
We have been hearing a lot of this sort of thing (…It…cannot…be…done…!!). Its like drawing a line in the sand and daring the rising tide to cross it.
The funding is small fry.
The whale in your budget is the cost of putting CO2 reduction above reducing poverty.
Tokenism.
http://www.dispatch.com/storyimage/OH/20170126/OPINION/170128955/AR/0/AR-170128955.jpg
http://freebeacon.com/politics/epa-employees-coming-work-tears-trump-win/
Oh lord! I think I just spent 10 minutes laughing at that comic. ^¿^
Thanks, Walter! 🙂
We will see what happens,as things play out. Remember, this was based on an NYT article, and we all know how accurate they can be. Personally, I believe they are giving themselves the think time to make the right combination of actions. Who knows, he may also pull the trigger on exiting the UNFCCC entirely. With 1 year notice, it quits the entire Climate kit’n caboodle, and automatically the US involvement in all of the associated treaties, agreements, etc, and complete defunding of UNFCCC activities.
It also gives Trump a lot of leverage if and deals or pressure is ever necessary. If someone comes begging ‘ please come back in’ he will be much more effective in saying ‘how much is it worth to you?’
Latest quote from Trump (Nov 2016) is that climate is changing and the change might be linked to man, to an unknown degree. Pretty much what the IPCC says. I wish people would stop quoting what he said in 2012. Out of date. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/11/22/politics/donald-trump-climate-change-new-york-times/index.html?client=safari
Has anyone ever bothered to look at the real costs of fighting this war on climate change? The costs are measured in multiples of the WORLD’S GDP. That isn’t a joke.
Just How Much Does 1 Degree C Cost?
https://co2islife.wordpress.com/2017/01/25/just-how-much-does-1-degree-c-cost/
Don’t forget the enforcement mechanism for Paris also has departed recently. That was Obummers hidden secret to send us further to the new Agenda 2030. Have not heard of that agenda yet? Google it.
On TPP, here is a start.
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/12/obama_will_use_tpp_to_enforce_his_climate_agreement.html
this may be related more to palestine stuff (and US laws about funding them) and less to actual paris agreement but due to how it affects paris agreement is getting reported as such.
let it play out a few days and see.
Thank you all. You may return to a normal life now. Abnormal has just been repealed as a bad joke on the taxpayers of America.
Has anyone noticed that Trump’s signature looks a lot like a graph of global temps from 1997 to 2017?
Trump does seem to have a lot of ups and downs in his signature. I haven’t been able to get a clear view of it but from looking at it upside down on tv it looks like a lot of ups and downs and quite a large, long signature. Although that may just be his showmanship coming out. 🙂
El Ninos at each end.
Truly awesome Trump T-shirt I had to pass along!!!. Revolucionario.
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http://static4.fjcdn.com/comments/3580905+_afd0b82bc92d4f18ca4e8630dc532064.jpg
Excellent news here because if the US goes ahead with these cuts, it will be up to the countries that are supposedly so committed to the UN to make up the shortfall. None of us should hold our breaths until that happens. In addition, undoing Obama’s pledge of $3 billion to developing nations for reducing carbon emissions is an outstanding idea because who’s really keeping track of where that money is or will be going. What happens if those countries fail to meet their targets or use the money to line the pockets of the corrupt government officials that are the rule in most of them? Would the US or any other developed nation making the same contributions get a refund? Let’s quit sending tax dollars overseas and utilize them better domestically because chances are good we’ll get better results.
Some naivety in commenters thinking Trump and Tillerson are backing away from dispatching AGW fraud to the dustbin. Tillerson as CEO of Exxon had to play nice as a public cpy and besides if the gov was foolish enough to throw money away, why not gather it up, build subsidized wind farms, make money and get good public relations to boot. Remember what job one is for CEO of a corporation.
Trump played the game as entrepreneur, too, donating to Dems, GOP and NY politics, too. Hey, you have to negotiate with them to get permits, etc. Now they have a different agenda: put America first. Watch them roll.
While women Dems are out protesting their issues, Trump has just covered a couple of dozen other major jolts to the swampy system that must have professional left wing useful idiot herdsmen in a dizzy tizzy. Egad, maybe this whirling dervish only needs 100 days to complete the job and he can go back to building hotels before soshalist lawyers can file their suits against him.
My bold.
Do you think we should send in some recommendations? ^¿^
“we” probably would not have any more weight nor specific knowledge to advice a pres. on what and how to do it.
However, I was highlighting that part of the NYT article since it shows that he is calling for consultations, which was not really how it was communicated in Chris White’s article.
Ristvan has made some very specific and legally well-informed comments about this and others are working on this.
Give Trump his due, he’s been working incredibly hard. Here are some of the things he has done in his first week. These are some of the things that have been happening, obviously not all achieved by Trump.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the DOJ’s Violence Against Women programs.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the National Endowment for the Arts.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the National Endowment for the Humanities.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Minority Business Development Agency.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Economic Development Administration.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the International Trade Administration.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Manufacturing Extension Partnership.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Office of Community Oriented Policing Services.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Legal Services Corporation.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Civil Rights Division of the DOJ.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Environmental and Natural Resources Division of the DOJ.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Overseas Private Investment Corporation.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Office of Electricity Deliverability and Energy Reliability.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Office of Fossil Energy.
* On January 20th, 2017, DT ordered all regulatory powers of all federal agencies frozen.
* On January 20th, 2017, DT ordered the National Parks Service to stop using social media after RTing factual, side by side photos of the crowds for the 2009 and 2017 inaugurations.
* On January 20th, 2017, roughly 230 protestors were arrested in DC and face unprecedented felony riot charges. Among them were legal observers, journalists, and medics.
* On January 20th, 2017, a member of the International Workers of the World was shot in the stomach at an anti-fascist protest in Seattle. He remains in critical condition.
* On January 21st, 2017, DT brought a group of 40 cheerleaders to a meeting with the CIA to cheer for him during a speech that consisted almost entirely of framing himself as the victim of dishonest press.
* On January 21st, 2017, White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer held a press conference largely to attack the press for accurately reporting the size of attendance at the inaugural festivities, saying that the inauguration had the largest audience of any in history, “period.”
* On January 22nd, 2017, White House advisor Kellyann Conway defended Spicer’s lies as “alternative facts” on national television news.
* On January 22nd, 2017, DT appeared to blow a kiss to director James Comey during a meeting with the FBI, and then opened his arms in a gesture of strange, paternal affection, before hugging him with a pat on the back. Reconciliation?
* On January 23rd, 2017, DT reinstated the global gag order, which defunds international organizations that even mention abortion as a medical option.
* On January 23rd, 2017, Spicer said that the US will not tolerate China’s expansion onto islands in the South China Sea, essentially threatening war with China.
* On January 23rd, 2017, DT repeated the lie that 3-5 million people voted “illegally” thus costing him the popular vote.
* On January 23rd, 2017, it was announced that the man who shot the anti-fascist protester in Seattle was released without charges, despite turning himself in.
* On January 24th, 2017, Spicer reiterated the lie that 3-5 million people voted “illegally” thus costing DT the popular vote.
* On January 24th, 2017, DT tweeted a picture from his personal Twitter account of a photo he says depicts the crowd at his inauguration and will hang in the White House press room. The photo is curiously dated January 21st, 2017, the day AFTER the inauguration and the day of the Women’s March, the largest inauguration related protest in history.
* On January 24th, 2017, the EPA was ordered to stop communicating with the public through social media or the press and to freeze all grants and contracts.
* On January 24th, 2017, the USDA was ordered to stop communicating with the public through social media or the press and to stop publishing any papers or research. All communication with the press would also have to be authorized and vetted by the White House.
* On January 24th, 2017, HR7, a bill that would prohibit federal funding not only to abortion service providers, but to any insurance coverage, including Medicaid, that provides abortion coverage, went to the floor of the House for a vote.
* On January 24th, 2017, Director of the Department of Health and Human Service nominee Tom Price characterized federal guidelines on transgender equality as “absurd.”
* On January 24th, 2017, DT ordered the resumption of construction on the Dakota Access Pipeline, while the North Dakota state congress considers a bill that would legalize hitting and killing protestors with cars if they are on roadways.
* On January 24th, 2017, it was discovered that police officers had used confiscated cell phones to search the emails and messages of the 230 demonstrators now facing felony riot charges for protesting on January 20th, including lawyers and journalists whose email accounts contain privileged information of clients and sources.
And today: the wall and a ban on Muslims entering from a large number of countries and the end to accepting Syrian refugees
Your first 17 items are defunding federal activities.
Perhaps you could show us where in the US Constitution the Federal Government was granted any of the powers required to engage in those activities. Otherwise, those are unconstitutional activities and need to be shut sown.
My Favorite:
Rioters stop your car, surround your car, start beating on your car, smash windows, threaten your family.
I, personally, have always advocated the aggressive use of the motor vehicle as a defensive weapon, in case of need. I have always been gratified how quickly violent rioters start to behave when confronted with a motorist who demonstrates a willingness to protect his own.
My Second Favorite:
You honestly have a problem with shutting out illegal aliens and Islamic terrorists attempting to sneak in under the guise of “refugee status”? Really?
My Third Favorite:
Conway is the first woman campaign manager to win a presidential race and bring her candidate into the winner’s circle.
That must mean President Trump is a sexist pig.
(President Trump, I love that!)
Did you have a point in there anywhere?
@TonyL
Thanks for the response. I’ll deal with your question first .
“You honestly have a problem with shutting out illegal aliens and Islamic terrorists attempting to sneak in under the guise of “refugee status”? Really?”
No I don’t everyone has a duty to protect their citizens, but that is not what is happening.
Start with, which countries are affected? Syria, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Yemen.
How many US citizens have died in the last ten years as a result of terrorist action by people from those named countries? None.
The people who carried out 9/11 were largely from Saudi Arabia. Any restrictions on them ? Nope.
How much of a problem is Islamic Terrorism in the US.
Lets put it into perspective.
Some 13,286 people were killed in the US by firearms in 2015, according to the Gun Violence Archive, and 26,819 people were injured [those figures exclude suicide)
So how many died from terrorism?
Well over the last DECADE it is 24 ( possibly a few more or less)
In the same period 280,000 died from guns deaths.
Trump has said time and time again that he sees gun ownership has a positive factor despite the widespread slaughter, but wildly overreacts with regard to Islamic terrorism. He is doing the same with Illegal Mexican Immigrants.
How does this apparent incapacity to analyse and act in proportion to potential threats to the US reflect on his other pronouncements such as climate change? Not well I’m afraid.
While you are there, check out how many people from other countries have been killed by US action.
Does that answer your question Tony?
Wow Gareth, that’s a truly amazing collection of Spin, Character Assassination, and Outright Lies. It’s a good thing I already had absolutely no respect for your opinion, or this would have been truly depressing.
In all seriousness, why would you even post this viral Facebook trash here? Half the list is cuts to programs that most of us here would agree NEED cuts. And the rest? Spin and bull$h!t from Time and Mother Jones.
I mean, we already KNOW the truth about the Riots. Hundreds of identically black dressed people smashing windows and burning cars, and you want to spin it like Trump is some fascist ordering crackdowns on Doctors and Lawyers peacefully protesting? Really? >¿<
When is the MSM and the Leftists going to realize that the world has changed, and that the can't control the thoughts of the people anymore. We don't believe their lies now. We won't bark at their command. And there will be more of us every day, with every exposed lie, every failed prediction.
Their long night of iron fisted rule is ending. The dawn has come.
Ok, ya. I'm feeling melodramatic. ^¿^ it's after 3am here. Time for bed.
Thanks you for your gracious response Schittree. If it is not accurate, I accept that of course, but would you be so kind as to indicate which parts are untrue? It would help us understand your madness from this side of the pond. Hwyl!
I’m sorry, Gareth? Didn’t I just do that? Well, in your defense maybe you didn’t know the truth about the Washington DC protests. Here’s a link.
http://news.sky.com/story/anti-trump-protesters-smash-windows-in-tense-scenes-before-inauguration-10735956
I especially recommend watching the video on that page, the masses of identically black clad rioters or kind of a tip off. Well, they are if you are smart enough to understand the trick.
See, by all dressing in the same ninja wannabe outfit, it makes it nearly impossible for the police to know which of the protesters are the ones smashing windows, throwing chunks of concrete, starting fires, assaulting police and attacking passers-by, even in this age of ever present cameras.
Watch the video. As the protesters march down the road, individuals run out of the group, smash something, then run back into it. Meanwhile the crowd marches on, doing nothing to stop any of its members from doing this kind of $h!t, chanting slogans like ‘hands up, don’t shoot’. EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM knows what the plan here is, they are all accessories to it. There’s no legitimate reason for them to all be dressed like rejects from a cheap kung-fu movie.
This was a carefully planed and orchestrated move by the Leftists. And of course there will be some higher class lefties mixed in to the crowd. Doctors and Lawyers and whatnot, that the MSM can point to while crying about the unfair treatment these poor innocent protesters have suffered under the jack-boot of imperialism, or whatever Socialist dogma they’re spouting today.
All they need to get away with it are enough people like YOU, Gareth. Useful idiots who will believe and repeat ever lie they are told, as long as it comes from your Leftwing Masters. And make no mistake, Gareth. They are your Masters. You sold yourself willingly to them.
Wow what a great list. All great things achieved – from my perspective. Go Trump.
“Wow what a great list. All great things achieved – from my perspective. Go Trump.”
Yeah, that’s what I was thinking, too. What’s not to like?
Be still, my beating heart.
Kudos to the incumbent POTUS!!!!! He has taken power with a debt in the $20 trillion range, and given that the former POTUS started with a “miniscule” debt of $9 trillion, well, it is going to take some slashing of unnecessary arms of the government to start the process of reeling in the spending.
And the most recent Secretaries of State, namely Hillary and John Kerry, undoubtedly the two most incompetent in the history of the US, well, yet another area that will require some serious attention. And it will!
You are making it look like Trump has done more in a week then Obama did in 8 years. You are obviously a racist and misogynist and probably once ate lunch with a Russian too.
And yes, you are right on top of it, red states like North Dakota often often pass laws making murder legal.
“Gareth Phillips January 26, 2017 at 11:01 pm”
That is a nice cut n paste, where did you get that from?
Poor Gareth here you see the reason why trump is President of the United States of America, the vile extream left have been outed and they do not like it, the world is now in a much better place now we have flushed these totalitarian rats into the open. God bless trump God bless America.
Indeed, and Trump os such an honest man who has no room for lies and self promotion. I also like the way he keeps totalitarian dictators like Putin at arms length and will have nothing to do with silly claims like there were millions of unlawful votes. He is indeed the Messiah, you must feel extremely blessed on your planet.
Had we not seen dem operatives — on film — openly boasting about electoral fraud, including a lovely “how-to” set of instructions, your indignation might carry more weight.
Thank goodness for the electoral college. It doesn’t eliminate voter fraud, but it makes it far more expensive to steal an effective vote. All it takes is a pack of cigarettes and a pint of booze to buy a vote instate. But to get a vote to a purple state that matters costs hundreds of beans per shot and is more risky (we can view for ourselves the tactics used to avoid detection, straight from the jackasses’ mouths).
Let’s not forget that the last recent POTUS that had an impeachment hearing was a DEMOCRAT!!!
I love how all of the “lefties” are so very much in denial, these are truly wonderful times!!!!!!
Yup, “but names will never hurt me”
More exciting news with reference to previous articles on WUWT from Donald ( Call me Mr.Honest) Trump.
Donald Trump ordered the National Park Service director to produce additional photographs of his inauguration crowds, believing the images “might prove that the media had lied” about the size of the audience, according to the Washington Post.
Parks spokesman Tom Crosson told the Guardian in an email on Thursday night, “I can confirm the call happened … but I’m not discussing the content of the call.”
In the phone call with Reynolds, who did not respond to the Guardian’s request for comment, Trump also expressed anger about the NPS Twitter account retweeting an image of side-by-side photographs comparing the 2009 and 2017 events, the Post reported.
To be fair The White House deputy press secretary, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, told the Post that the call with Reynolds simply demonstrated that Trump’s management style is to be “so accessible, and constantly in touch”, adding: “He’s not somebody who sits around and waits. He takes action and gets things done.”
On Saturday, Trump also gave a controversial speech at a CIA memorial, in which he talked about the size of his inauguration crowd and slammed the “dishonest” media.
I wonder if the same heroes who monitored why they thought was disinformation with regard to climate science when Obama was in office, will be as enthusiastic to do the same on all issues now Mr.Trump is POTUS? Don’t hold your breath!
“Indeed, and Trump os such an honest man who has no room for lies and self promotion.”
Well, Gareth, a person who self-promotes himself isn’t necessarily being dishonest. It’s like Mohammed Ali said: “If you can do it, it ain’t braggin'”.
“and will have nothing to do with silly claims like there were millions of unlawful votes.”
There are a number of studies claiming anywhere from hundreds of thousands to millions of illegal votes were cast in the last few presidential elections. You act like Trump just invented all this. Not so.
And now, thanks to Trump, and the MSM/Left goading him, the U.S. government is going to do a formal study of how votes are cast, so we will have a much better handle on this problem in the future. Just what the doctor ordered. I don’t want some illegal alien, who doesn’t share my values, nullifying my vote.
If voter fraud has ever been of concern, the massive anti-Trump legions from Dems, even Republicans, academia, Hollywood, lefty billionaires, illegal immigrants… assures us that this election will have had much more of it than ever before. Generally past concerns have been with swing states. Look this time to NY and CA which have the easiest chance of hiding a million or so illegal votes. Funding by untouchables like Steyer, Soros, Rockefeller FN, it could be done easily. Don’t forget Steyer tried to buy the election for Hillary for 80m(?) and when she lost, he stated that next time he would be running the campaign. Don’t become an echo of the unsupported media statements that it has all been debunked. They have no idea. I believe there will be reform in this issue after the real investigation.
“Parks spokesman Tom Crosson told the Guardian in an email on Thursday night, “I can confirm the call happened … but I’m not discussing the content of the call.”
So, if the Parks spokesman didn’t discuss the content of the call with the reporter, how did the contents of the call get in this article? Did the reporter just make it all up?
I don’t see how else he would get these so-called quotes. If they have an unnamed source, they usually say so, but not here. No quotes. Then the report has quotes about what took place in the conversation.
More fake news.
“On Saturday, Trump also gave a controversial speech at a CIA memorial, in which he talked about the size of his inauguration crowd and slammed the “dishonest” media.”
It was only controversial to those on the Left. The CIA personnel loved Trump’s visit. They burst out laughing in agreement when Trump said the MSM was dishonest.
The MSM likes to make it out like there was some kind of feud between Trump and the entire CIA, but that is a gross mischaracterization of the situation.
What you really have are Obama’s CIA appointees at odds with Trump, not the rank and file. Brennan is doing the bidding of the Left in his criticisms of Trump.
Just because Brennan doesn’t like Trump, doesn’t mean the employees of the CIA don’t like Trump. I think you could hear how they felt about him with their enthusiastic applause. Some leftists want to pretend the loud applause was because Trump packed the house with his own people, but there is no evidence of that whatsoever, it’s just another smear against Trump.
“Indeed, and Trump os such an honest man who has no room for lies and self promotion. I also like the way he keeps totalitarian dictators like Putin at arms length and will have nothing to do with silly claims like there were millions of unlawful votes. He is indeed the Messiah, you must feel extremely blessed on your planet.”
Mr. Trump has been POTUS for one week and has already accomplished more than Obama did in 8 years. Apparently you are a sore-assed liberal loser that hasn’t realized your time of ass kissing Obama is over. We’re tired of your sanctimonious trolling. My advice is GFY…repeatedly!!
arms length and Messia,
reminds on
http://prince.org/msg/105/421104?pr
It will be more enlightening to see what the new text actually says when it is made public, rather than this anonymously leaked, draft, edited and spun they NYT.
As Nestroy said :
Es muass was gscheg’n sunst gschiacht nix –
No change without change.
“President Donald Trump will sign an executive order Thursday indirectly targeting the Paris climate summit agreement signed by the Obama administration seeking to reduce carbon emission levels over the next two decades”
This being Friday, did he actually do this? Not reported round my way, you see…
“Griff January 27, 2017 at 4:30 am
Not reported round my way, you see…”
You expect Trump to report to you Griff?
Wow. Common sense in the White House. How long has it been since that has happened? Decades?
generations actually. The same goes for real management at the agencies.
REGULAR Paris Agreement: … to combat climate change and to accelerate and intensify the actions and investments needed for a sustainable low carbon future.
My proposal for the … ALT Paris Agreement:… to combat misinformation about climate change and to accelerate and intensify the actions and investments needed to understand the role of carbon in all human life and to use this understanding to help insure a sustainable future.
Had an advertisement from Scientific American come through the internet today which said: “Reject a Post-Truth World”.
I think they are getting rattled by Trump. But they had better take a look at their own honesty, before Trump catches up with them.
R
From a promoter of post-normal science, this comes across as pretty disingenuous. ~¿~
So, which will it be, un-Scientific un-American, do we hold out for the truth, or do we publish wild eyed speculation and outright falsehood as long as it pushes our beliefs?
Obama likes giving your tax money to dubious causes.
He may have given $33 billion to Iran, much of it is cash (which needs investigating).
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3782488/Iran-collected-33-6-BILLION-nuclear-deal-Obama-administration-delivered-cash-shipments-unfroze-billions-more.html
And he gave $221 million to the Palestinians on his last day in office.
http://europe.newsweek.com/us-gave-palestinians-221-million-obamas-last-day-office-547363?rm=eu
So on his last day, the ‘dying’ wish of Obama was not to help Americans, but to give a ‘Christmas present’ to an American-hating group that has caused more instability in the Middle East than anyone else. Says it all, really…..
R
And 500m to the gangrene fund under UNFCC. to keep 3rd World in perennial poverty.
“So on his last day, the ‘dying’ wish of Obama was not to help Americans, but to give a ‘Christmas present’ to an American-hating group that has caused more instability in the Middle East than anyone else. Says it all, really…..”
It sure does.
Obama is the greatest enabler of radical Islamic terrorism in world history, with the one exception of Mohammad, and Obama’s last act in Office was to help radical Islamic terrorist one more time.
I think Trump is looking into stopping those payments to the Palestinians, but he was asked about it the other day and declined to comment on it, and was asked about moving the U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem, and he declined to comment on that too, which got me to thinking maybe Trump is thinking he might be able to use these things as some leverage to possibly get the Israelis and the Palestinians back to the peace table.
>>possibly get the Israelis and the
>>Palestinians back to the peace table.
No point. This battle (and the one in Syria) have been going on for 1,300 years. It is futile to think that anything we do today will ever rectify and end this millennial-old dispute. The only thing that will is a Japan-style 1945 ‘reset button’, where the core religious texts and interpretations that caused the problem are dismantled and forbidden.
R
Japan style reset – but instead of FatBoy and LittleMan use a few hundred W88’s.
Oh it’s been going own for a LOT longer then 13 hundred years. Before Mohamad’s grandfathers were born, The Hebrews, Philistinians, Samarians, and a host of others had been fighting over that patch of land for Centuries. Lots of Centuries.
Just like others had for every other patch of land on Earth. The only thing making the middle east different is it has (slightly) better records of the Millenniums of Conflict.
“By what executive authority can Trump do this?” the author asks. How about by the same authority that Obumma used to steal our money and give it away in the first place??? Grrrr…
Another good day, ‘in the news’!
God Bless America and all who love Her!
Once the funds for Climate Change dry up all the “the sky is falling chicken littles” will stop their clucking and be forced to look for other ways to make money.
Who knows maybe instead of putting political payoffs into climate science, they’ll put science back into climate science. Who knows, might happen.
The cost of the action is suppose to be paid for by the rich nations of the world. With a huge national debt, huge annual deficits, and huge annual trade ddficits, the USA is currently a poor debetor nation and shoud not be paying anything for the effort so what Trump is doing is actually in keeping with the agreement. Of course the reality is that the climate change we are experiencing today is caused by the sun and the oceans over which Mankind has no control. There is no real evidence that CO2 has any effect on climate and plenty of scientific reasoning to support the idea that the climate sensitivity of CO2 is really zero. If we were able to stop climate change we would still have exterme weather events and sea level rise because they are all part of our current climate. There are many good reasons to be conserving on the use of fossil fuels but climate change is not one of them.
The thing that is totally baffling about Paris is why anyone thinks that China raising its emissions from 10 billion tons to 15 billion is somehow leading the world in the fight against climate change.
What are these people smoking?
To paraphrase Jimmy Carter…”There is joy upon the land”. I can’t remember the last time I felt so happy.
So Obama could have transferred the entire wealth of the nation to the United and it could not be rescended? Uh huh