Trump reax: 'Doomsday Clock' likely to be moved closer to midnight


Press release:


White House in Transition, US-Russia Relations, North Korean Ambitions, Iran Nuclear Deal, and Uncertain Fate of Climate Solutions Among the Factors Being Weighed.

WASHINGTON, D.C. – NEWS ADVISORY – The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists will host a live international news conference at 10 a.m. EST/1500 GMT on January 26, 2017 to announce whether the minute hand of the iconic “Doomsday Clock” will be adjusted. The decision is made by the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists’ Science and Security Board in consultation with the Board of Sponsors, which includes 15 Nobel Laureates.

Factors influencing the 2017 deliberations regarding any adjustment that may be made to the Doomsday Clock include: a rise in strident nationalism worldwide, President Donald Trump’s comments on nuclear arms and climate issues, a darkening global security landscape that is colored by increasingly sophisticated technology, and a growing disregard for scientific expertise.

In January 2016, the Doomsday Clock’s minute hand did not change, remaining at three minutes before midnight, the closest it has been to midnight since the early days of above-ground hydrogen bomb testing. The Clock was changed in 2015 from five to three minutes to midnight.

News event speakers for the Doomsday Clock announcement on January 26, 2017 will include:

* Lawrence Krauss, chair, Bulletin Board of Sponsors; director, Origins Project at Arizona State University; and Foundation Professor, School of Earth and Space Exploration and Physics Department, Arizona State University.

* Thomas Pickering, Bulletin Board of Sponsors; former US Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs (1997-2000) and US Ambassador to the United Nations, the Russian Federation, India, Israel, El Salvador, Nigeria, and Jordan. Ambassador Pickering is currently focused on nonproliferation, most recently the Iran nuclear agreement.

* David Titley, Bulletin Science and Security Board; professor of practice, Pennsylvania State University Department of Meteorology, and founding director, Penn State’s Center for Solutions to Weather and Climate Risk. Dr. Titley is nationally known expert in the field of climate, the Arctic, and national security, and a retired rear admiral. While serving as Oceanographer and Navigator of the Navy, Dr. Titley initiated and led the U.S. Navy’s Task Force on Climate Change.

* Rachel Bronson, executive director and publisher, Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists;

TO PARTICIPATE IN PERSON: You can attend the Doomsday Clock news event on January 26, 2017, 10 a.m. EST/1500 GMT at the National Press Club, 529 14th Street NW, Washington, D.C., in the First Amendment Lounge.  Attendance will be limited to credentialed members of the news media. For security reasons, all attendees must RSVP in advance by contacting: Patrick Mitchell, (703) 276-3266 and; or Alex Frank, (703) 276-3264 and

CAN’T PARTICIPATE IN PERSON?: Journalists unable to attend the live news conference can view a live streaming webcast of the event at


My personal opinion is that they’ll move it forward, and make Trump’s lack of climate concern a big part of it.

The real question is: Other than journos chasing a story, does anybody care? I sure don’t, because it’s nothing but a symbolic personification of a consensus opinion, and really has no impact beyond scaring people.

Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing. – Shakespeare’s MacBeth, Scene 5.5

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January 24, 2017 11:12 am

Who knew the doomsday clock was still a thing? (Other than that 1980’s Iron Maiden song.)

Reply to  PaulH
January 24, 2017 11:47 am

I love the quote: “Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing. – Shakespeare’s MacBeth, Scene 5.5, but pluralize it to “Told by idiots, full of sounds…” and thus Shakespeare gets it right 410 years later when he belatedly refers to the Doomsday Clock. Of course, “Doomsday Crock” might be preferred by the Bard!

Nigel S
Reply to  tomwys1
January 24, 2017 1:24 pm

‘Tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life’s but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury
Signifying nothing.’
Macbeth Act v Scene 5
‘It has never been hard to tell the difference between a Scotsman with a grievance and a ray of sunshine.’
P.G. Wodehouse
Reading Wodehouse at the moment, good for the soul.

Reply to  tomwys1
January 24, 2017 7:21 pm

Nigel S,
Give me Wodehouse and George MacDonald Fraser. I’m good until doomsday, thanks.

Reply to  PaulH
January 24, 2017 12:16 pm

That idiotic clock is just one more figment of some jerk wad on the left wing of the political spectrum who has an idiotic notion that they can override Biblical Revelation. Get you shit in order because the fallout will occur no matter who is in power.

Reply to  JWM
January 24, 2017 12:26 pm

moral: don’t let liberals keep time

tony mcleod
Reply to  JWM
January 24, 2017 1:08 pm

You managed to include “figment” and “Biblical Revelation” in the one sentence. Well done.

Reply to  JWM
January 24, 2017 2:49 pm

Tony: You managed to look foolish and arrogant in one sentence. Congrats.

Reply to  PaulH
January 24, 2017 2:53 pm

If it’s 3 min to midnight ( doomsday ) , what the hell does climate change matter ? We’ll all be dead before pass the hypothetical “tipping point” of 2 deg C anyway.
If the clock ever works it way back to 23:30 maybe we can consider if AGW is an issue and push it to 23:31.
Something that will take the best part of a century to ( allegedly ) become a problem is not an issue at 23:58. What the world is waking up to is that we have far more important and pressing issues the AGW, even if it is an issue at all.

Reply to  Greg
January 24, 2017 3:02 pm

If the DD clock does get moved, it will because of 8 years of Obama and Clinton, not because of three days of Trump.
Obama deliberately and irresponsibly inflamed the situation with Russia in a perverted attempt to wreck Trump’s aims of having better relations before he ever got into office.
Doubtless the Swedish Academy will give him another Peace Prize this year in recognition of his efforts.

Reply to  PaulH
January 24, 2017 7:15 pm

Doomsday? “Bring it on!”

January 24, 2017 11:15 am

Haven’t read a single thing about the ‘doomsday clock’ in a decade or more. Interesting.

Ron Clutz
Reply to  tannngl
January 24, 2017 1:53 pm

On the doomsday clock, trust the onion to get the news straight.

Reply to  Ron Clutz
January 25, 2017 3:49 am

It’s really a huge joke. Thanks for the reminder.

January 24, 2017 11:18 am

See for a history. Note that it was 2 minutes before midnight over 50 years ago in 1953 and yet many of us are still around.

Pop Piasa
Reply to  Ralph Dave Westfall
January 24, 2017 4:04 pm

Predicting imminent doom has been a sideline job for scientists of the ivory tower kind for as long as institutions have been cranking them out. This is evil propaganda which is again being timed to frighten the population. There is no other useful purpose to this speculation but to incite negativity.

Not Chicken Little
January 24, 2017 11:19 am

The “Atomic Scientists” Doomsday Clock disproves the old saw about even a broken clock being right twice a day…

Reply to  Not Chicken Little
January 24, 2017 11:54 am

Fear, fear, fear. That’s really ALL the Left has got. The day they can’t gin up general panic over their next fictional hobgoblin, no one will have a reason to listen to a THING they say. We’ve been told “the world is ending” since the ancient Greeks–and we’re all still here. Time to IGNORE all this happy horseshi-te.

Reply to  Goldrider
January 24, 2017 12:45 pm

Roast potatoes, the most recent scare story in the UK right now. Evidently, they give you cancer. Who knew?

Nigel S
Reply to  Goldrider
January 24, 2017 1:29 pm

Are they more dangerous than sawdust?
The guys (and girl) down at the boatyard tend to take that one with a pinch of salt. Put plenty of salt on their chips too!

Reply to  Goldrider
January 24, 2017 3:06 pm

We had a similar situation in Sweden with potato chips (not french fries) back in ~2001. Not to forget, the BBQ scare …

Robert Wykoff
Reply to  Goldrider
January 24, 2017 3:19 pm

Well, I do not see any ancient Greeks wandering about, so perhaps they were on to something

Reply to  Goldrider
January 24, 2017 3:52 pm

HotScot don’t forget the toast scare.
picture because I love toast

Terry Gain
January 24, 2017 11:20 am

How far forward did they move the clock when Obama entered into a deal which gives Iran an unfettered path to nuclear weapons in what is now 13.5 years?

Reply to  Terry Gain
January 24, 2017 11:27 am

The lack of inspections and enforcement in the Obama agreement means that there is no need for the Iranians to wait one minute in their nuclear plans. Much less 13.5 years.

Terry Gain
Reply to  MarkW
January 24, 2017 2:28 pm

I am putting the agreement in its best possible light in order to demonstrate that it is utterly moronic.

Reply to  Terry Gain
January 24, 2017 11:31 am

North Korea continues work on its first strike EMP weapon. Their layer cake hydrogen enhanced weapon is the key along with ICBM capability to detonate at altitude over Canada to knock out US power grid.

Reply to  ferdberple
January 24, 2017 12:45 pm

Right on! The solution of hardening against EMP is at hand & would employ a lot of (electrical) industrial workers. Use a bit of the $’s being wasted on Global Warming “research”!

Reply to  ferdberple
January 24, 2017 6:41 pm

I saw an article just the other day about spray-on EMP protection. It was concrete mixed with metallic particles, in a consistency that could be sprayed on to just about any kind of structure.

Reply to  ferdberple
January 24, 2017 8:17 pm

Not just the power grid, pretty much every modern electronic device, i.e. all vehicles as well. My ’59 Porsche will run, to little avail. Will Trump have the will to take them out before they can deploy them? Thank Bill Clinton for their nukes.

Reply to  ferdberple
January 25, 2017 10:10 am

Pretty much everything is already hardened to an EMP. A lightning bolt a few hundred feet away has many times the EMP potential than the worst case nuclear scenario.
Electric lines are vulnerable because they run for miles and as such can build up huge charges.

January 24, 2017 11:24 am

The Doomsday Clock has a quantum mechanism. Spooky. Perhaps they should run it several thousand, million more times until it reaches a consensus.

January 24, 2017 11:26 am

Move the clock forward an hour for daylight savings time.

Robert Westfall
Reply to  ferdberple
January 24, 2017 12:45 pm

Hah! Good one.

January 24, 2017 11:32 am

So this is why they invented the calculus, it’s for infinite approach to the limit for political theater and headlines. At this rate China and North Korea could lay claims to the entire Pacific Ocean and it would not register but Trump and climate change would make it lurch forward with drama.

Reply to  Resourceguy
January 24, 2017 11:48 am

Just like the good old days, when capitulation to whatever the Soviets wanted moved the clock back, but any resistance to Soviet aggression was the surest way to advance the clock.

January 24, 2017 11:33 am

Since media insists on Trump being Putin’s puppet, the clock should be moved back at least 60 minutes.

January 24, 2017 11:35 am

It is time to have this useless memento disappear. All it has become is a tool for liberals push their agenda.

January 24, 2017 11:36 am

What’s the point of this “clock”, are they trying to demonstrate Zeno’s paradox?

Reply to  RWturner
January 24, 2017 12:51 pm


January 24, 2017 11:38 am

But who’s watching the Watchmen?

Henning Nielsen
January 24, 2017 11:39 am

I hope the clock will be moved forward at least 2,5 minutes. Then, they can start on the final countdown…will be fun to see them stretching out the seconds, until only one is left. And then…boom and doom or the gloom of oblivion?

Reply to  Henning Nielsen
January 24, 2017 11:49 am

That’s when they start measuring micro-seconds.

Reply to  MarkW
January 24, 2017 12:18 pm

“super cereal?” Do you mean surreal, or is there some nutritious aspect of Zeno’s arrow that I overlooked?

Reply to  MarkW
January 24, 2017 1:21 pm

Obviously, It’s what the Justice League has as part of their balanced breakfast. ^_^

Pop Piasa
Reply to  MarkW
January 24, 2017 4:58 pm

It’s also a super serial… Always a “cliff hanger” for decades now.

Reply to  MarkW
January 25, 2017 9:39 am

I think it’s toast, not cereal.

January 24, 2017 11:50 am

So are all of these people depending on taxpayer funding now under threat from Trump? No bias then.

January 24, 2017 11:52 am

Whenever I see these people whining about Trump, the only thing that comes to mind is Kirk screaming “Kahn!” at the top of his lungs, looking completely deranged.
Leftist Green: “Trump!!!!!”

Reply to  Severian
January 24, 2017 1:29 pm

>_< Thanks, Severian. I'm never getting that image out of my head.

Reply to  Severian
January 24, 2017 11:20 pm

They see him Trumpin’
They hatin’

Warren Latham
January 24, 2017 11:53 am

Doomsday; and a clock of imagined self-importance; how purile. Who are these people ?
When they find out what carbonated oxygen is and what a “time-lag” is, then let the waling begin.
I suspect the bedwetters’ bank accounts shall all be “adjusted” in this new adjustocene age !
Tick – tock, tick – tock, another lovely day.

tony mcleod
Reply to  Warren Latham
January 24, 2017 1:17 pm

Who are these people ?
It started with physicists who worked on the Manhattan Project – that hotbed of corrupted, Marxists.

Reply to  tony mcleod
January 25, 2017 4:55 am

You think you are being clever, but you are much closer to the mark than you can imagine.

Reply to  tony mcleod
January 25, 2017 10:12 am

The only thing amazing about tony, is how little he knows about anything.

Reply to  tony mcleod
January 25, 2017 6:35 pm

Feeble, even by your low standard.

January 24, 2017 11:55 am

And the keepers of the clock stomp their feet, pout, and fuss:
“Look At Me! Look At Me!”

Clay Marley
January 24, 2017 11:55 am

In 1961, the year I was born, the Doomsday Clock was at 7 minutes.
In that year:
The US severs relations with Cuba. Castro announces he is a Marxist.
The US test fires the Minuteman ICBM.
Two B-52’s in 2 separate incidents crash each with 2 nuclear bombs on board.
Both the US and USSR launch the first humans into space.
The USSR detonates the most powerful Hydrogen Bomb ever developed, the Tsar Bomba.
The Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba.
A military coup in Syria.
Construction of the Berlin Wall begins.
There is a standoff of Soviet and American tanks at Checkpoint Charlie.
Kennedy starts sending troops to South Vietnam. The war officially begins.
The Doomsday people mean to tell me that today the clock is at only 3 minutes? Why, because of climate change?

J Mac
Reply to  Clay Marley
January 24, 2017 12:08 pm

If the ‘Doomsday Clock’ was at 7 minutes in 1961 and it’s at 3 minutes now, at that rate I calculate we have ‘only’ 42 years left to ‘ZERO’.
REPENT! The End Is…… 42 Years Away!!!

Reply to  J Mac
January 24, 2017 1:24 pm

but of course – the answer is ALWAYS 42!!!!

Reply to  J Mac
January 24, 2017 1:43 pm

I’ve got my towel handy, so I’m ready Doomsday. Got to make way for the hyperspace bypass.

Reply to  J Mac
January 25, 2017 12:12 pm

Don’t forget your guide ;). Don’t Panic. This planet is mostly harmless.

Reply to  Clay Marley
January 24, 2017 12:12 pm

The problem is you’re looking too closely. You need to stand back and take in the scare story like the rest of the sheep. And pay no attention to the submarine- launched missiles in the Pakistan and NK tests. The real clock threat is electing liberal leaders who signal the all clear to aggressors that it’s okay for invasion of Crimea and claims of the international waters of the entire South China Sea….as starters.

J Mac
Reply to  Resourceguy
January 24, 2017 1:38 pm

No argument from me RG!
Especially on China trying to annex the entirety of what is euphemistically called the “South China Sea’!
As for the “The Dooms Day Clock and the Bully-Ten of Atomic Scientists”,
I’ll take every opportunity I can find to illustrate them as laughable fools and (barely) useful tools!
42 years…. and counting!
(note to self: Buy more popcorn, butter, salt n beer…)

Mark from the Midwest
Reply to  Clay Marley
January 24, 2017 12:12 pm

It’s because “IT”S WORSE THAN THEY THOUGHT!!!” In the mind of a progressive things only get worse, it’s that implicit worse-ness in all things that can only be seen and understood by the progressive mind.

Reply to  Mark from the Midwest
January 24, 2017 12:27 pm

Isn’t that the truth.
Best example are children’s books. Each and every bloody book on animals, nature, stuff like that my 7-year old brings home from the school library, after first doing a reasonable job on the subject at hand, ends with a jeremiad “woe is the little critters, for humans have hunted them/polluted/destroyed their habitat almost to oblivion.” I skip over this drivel, or explicitly state that habitat protection in our western countries has been getting better, not worse, but it still drives me batty.

Not The Donald
January 24, 2017 11:57 am

Doomsday Clock is highly overrated. Sad.

Dr. Dave
January 24, 2017 12:02 pm

“The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists”… my, doesn’t that sound important. Does Kenji have a subscription to this publication? Based upon his current affiliations within the community, I’m sure he qualifies as an “atomic scientist”

Reply to  Dr. Dave
January 24, 2017 12:42 pm

I’m somewhat aghast that scientists are responsible for this! If it was produced by humanities fringe, I’d just shrug and say “Typical”. But scientists! What sort?
What scientific method do they use to calculate the time to doomsday? Or do they use a global ‘doomsday’ computer model?

Reply to  Dr. Dave
January 24, 2017 1:07 pm

Putting the bull into bulletin.

Bruce Cobb
January 24, 2017 12:13 pm

What we really need is a Dumbsday Clock. With Climate Alarmism, the Dumbsday Clock had approached midnight, where mankind’s dumbness would mean he would regress to caveman status. With Obama, I’d say the Dumbsday Clock had approached to within a minute or two of midnight, but now, with Trump, the clock is winding back full throttle.

Pop Piasa
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
January 24, 2017 5:23 pm

Things are running like clockwork for Trump, so far.

Hoyt Clagwell
January 24, 2017 12:24 pm

I’d like to see Trump establish the “Alarmism Cash Register”. They can have a constantly running total of all of the money being made from spreading fear.

January 24, 2017 12:25 pm

The Clock should be set at 9:34am because I said so. /sarc

Darrell Demick
Reply to  Steve B
January 24, 2017 12:32 pm

I second that.
All in favor ……

Pop Piasa
Reply to  Steve B
January 24, 2017 5:24 pm

OK, but set the alarm for 6 am, please.

January 24, 2017 12:25 pm

The one thing I never worry about is nuclear war where both sides have the ultimate weapon. That’s because, unlike a conventional war, where our leaders send out the great unwashed masses to do the fighting and dying, in a nuclear confrontation, it’s the leaders themselves whose lives are on the line.

Reply to  Trebla
January 25, 2017 12:47 am

Interviewer: “Do you have the power to… destroy the world?”
The Tick: “Dear God, I hope not! That’s where I keep my stuff!”

Joel Snider
January 24, 2017 12:29 pm

Remember all the accusations of ‘politics of fear’?

Darrell Demick
January 24, 2017 12:32 pm

“A growing disregard for scientific expertise.”
Duly noted. Since there is simply way too much real information in the public domain that “scientific expertise” is continually moving the goal posts by changing the raw data (they call it “adjustments”), not allowing for real QA/QC of their work, well, the list goes on and on ……
I have no choice but to state that my personal opinion is that the “growing disregard for scientific expertise”, as it pertains to the real science surrounding CAGW, is that the clock should be moved much further away from Midnight, based on this direct quote.
C’mon trolls, I await your attempts at responding.
: )
Put another way, bring it on ……

Reply to  Darrell Demick
January 24, 2017 2:03 pm

The Population Bomb was a dud. Oil didn’t Peak, Y2K didn’t crash all the computers, and the Ozone Hole didn’t do much off anything.
Hell, They weren’t even right about Cholesterol or Stomach Ulcers.
And just to top it all off, the people are coming to realize that then Climate Crisis isn’t happening either. because you can’t be told there’s only 10 years (or 5 years, or 500 days) to save the world, every year for 30 years straight without realizing something’s wrong.
And now they are surprised that there’s “A growing disregard for scientific expertise.” Really? >_<

January 24, 2017 12:32 pm

Maybe they should move the clock-hand to 70 years past midnight … i.e. it and they are irrelevant.

Peter Plail
January 24, 2017 12:35 pm

Well said. The ultimate deterrent.

January 24, 2017 12:35 pm

You know board games and ping pong which are equally serious have made a comeback so why not. The reaction to Trump in office reminds me more each day of Reagan’s early period. Sheer panic. Trump may have an advantage as big media’s credibility is toast and Republicans are in a stronger position.
No need to compromise. Nobody to compromise with if you were so inclined. Keep playing the workers against the professional Left. That worked for Reagan and should work again.

Snarling Dolphin
January 24, 2017 12:35 pm

The Doomsday Clock may be the only scientific forecast that’s that’s actually less accurate and reliable than the IPCC climate models.

January 24, 2017 12:36 pm

Shoot the Doomsday Clock into a black hole. Problem solved.

Alan Watt, Climate Denialist Level 7
January 24, 2017 12:39 pm

Why bother with this phony, can’t keep time doomsday clock when you can have a real one!.
From the description:

Original Russian Air Force issue. Full mil-spec!
Cockpit Panel Clock 129CS-55M (129ЧС-55M) for a Soviet TU nuclear bombers
The original 2-day wind up chronometer
The legendary “Doomsday” clock!
These clocks have been designed for use in Tupolev 22 long-range bombers! With the 55M / IFF electronic block (Identification Friend or Foe).
Fully mechanical, wind up clock with 3-day running reserve, 2-day launch sequence indicator, luminous hands and 24-hour (military time) clock face, with built-in 27-volt heater. Water-proof / vibration-proof, corrosion-resistant steel case withstands 10G’s. Tested from -76 °F (-60 °C) to +140 °F (+60 °C). 3⅓ inches (8.5 cm) diameter, 3⅓ inches (8.5 cm) deep
You’re bidding on an excellent clock, which comes with original factory seals intact. Clock is guaranteed to be fully functional, historical military item. Serial # 097208

You won’t find these babies stopping at 3 minutes till and having to be reset all the time! Show this to all your friends who are convinced they’re going to die because of global warming in a Trump administration.

January 24, 2017 12:48 pm

The world is a lot safer today, but no one is going to say that. No one can predict a “black swan” accident or miscalculation, of course, but one of the few things President Obama’s ever said that was perfectly accurate is that the world is generally more peaceful today than it was 40 or 50 years ago. link

The setting of the clock bears little relationship to our actual danger. It is actually just “political hypochondria”. They should take two aspirin and call us again in the next decade.
I remember when Ronald Reagan was elected and lots of people thought he was going to get us all blown up. I note, with some satisfaction, that they were wrong.

Reply to  commieBob
January 24, 2017 2:27 pm

We have to recognize that, as the latest reports made clear, Vladimir Putin himself directed the covert cyber-attacks against our electoral system, against our democracy, apparently because he has a personal beef against me. — Hillary Clinton
At least we don’t have a continuation of this spat to tempt the fate of the world.

Reply to  Neo
January 24, 2017 9:09 pm

Dastardly Vlad the Impailer has been accused of the insidious act of releasing DNC emails. Nobody has said that they were fraudulent, though . I doubt that he did it, but if he did, all Americans owe him a debt of gratitude for exposing the corruption of the Democrats.

January 24, 2017 12:56 pm

If they move the clock hands to 12:00, do the bombers take off and the missiles launch?
Ours, theirs, everybody’s?

Reply to  TonyL
January 24, 2017 2:46 pm

For some reason, that reminds me of something Ronald Reagan said:

My fellow Americans, I’m pleased to tell you today that I’ve signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes. link

January 24, 2017 1:03 pm

Doomsday Clock … Who knew that this was a widely recognized symbolic thing ? Obviously not me – am I THAT out of touch ?
Anyhow, I coined a new word (somebody else might have already beat me to it) — Trumpmageddon.
Hence, Trump’s face would be on MY version of the doomsday clock, which gives me an idea to make up a few to sell on Ebay. (^_^).
Come one, come all, … cash in your carbon credits to buy yourself one of these babies, if you have to. You might as well enjoy the luxuries of life in the little time you have left before the symbolic midnight hour strikes you down.
It’s hideous, I must have one.
… offered in a vintage cuckoo-clock styling or, for the more affluent crowd, a Rolex wrist-watch styling. Monthly-payment options available.
… better than a Hillaryapocalypse, I guess, but we could do a clock with HER face on it too, for all those whiners who are still in denial over her loss. … got to reach out to all market segments, you know.

Reply to  Robert Kernodle
January 24, 2017 1:07 pm

Ah, but my logic is flawed, I fear, since Hillary whiners would not be the ones motivated to buy either. Only good humored realists would buy, just as we buy Micky Mouse watches to celebrate cartoon characters.
This is a cartoon we are living in now, right ?

January 24, 2017 1:03 pm
Gunga Din
January 24, 2017 1:10 pm

The Doomsday Clock.
Of course they’ll set it forward. Good PR.
Who set it up? Who says where it should be set? Based on what?
(Will one of them please move the damn thing to “MIDNIGHT” so the rest of us (who haven’t just had a heart attack) can wake up tomorrow to a new day?)

January 24, 2017 1:10 pm

No, no, no, … each of those “5”s need to be replaced by “666”. And Trump’s face needs to be on it.

January 24, 2017 1:11 pm

Yes, at this rate CO2 will grow to .045 percent of the atmosphere. I wonder how many more nukes and nuke delivery systems there will be by then.

January 24, 2017 1:13 pm

The right way to celebrate the occasion is with a nice bottle of wine and a screening “Dr. Strangelove.”

Myron Mesecke
January 24, 2017 1:18 pm

The Doomsday clock is the ultimate expression of liberal pessimism.
They simply aren’t happy unless they are miserable.
Oddly it is usually some failure in government that advances the clock. Yet they are always wanting government to get more and more involved in every aspect of our lives.

Rob Morrow
January 24, 2017 1:26 pm

“A symbolic clock is as nourishing to the intellect as a photo of oxygen to a drowning man.”
Dr. Manhattan

Reply to  Rob Morrow
January 24, 2017 2:21 pm

As useless as JPEGs to Helen Keller

Nigel S
January 24, 2017 1:38 pm

‘After Midnight’

Bubba Cow
Reply to  Nigel S
January 24, 2017 1:59 pm

Aha, Chicago Blues … at least they got something right.

Reply to  Bubba Cow
January 24, 2017 6:58 pm

Trump just tweeted he was going to send the Feds into Chicago, if the local politicians and law enforcement didn’t get busy and do something about the horrendous murder rate in Chicago.
And yes, Trump can do just that, and Chicago’s governor and mayor can’t do a thing to stop him. Trump can take jurisdiction of the many federal crimes being committed in Chicago, like carrying a weapon after being convicted of a felony.

Johann Wundersamer
January 24, 2017 1:40 pm


January 24, 2017 1:45 pm

‘Most Read from The Washington Post: The first days inside Trump’s White House: Fury, tumult and a reboot’
Yep, end must be near. We have fury, tumult and reboot. Scary. The Fake News Media says so.

Reply to  Gamecock
January 24, 2017 7:01 pm

That’s what they said about Trump’s transition team, too. If there is no controversy in the Trump administration, then the MSM will make some up.

January 24, 2017 1:57 pm

They’ve been moving it so close to midnight over the last few years that it must surely be 5 past by now.

Steve Fraser
January 24, 2017 2:02 pm

Did they not pick up the clue when Hillary mentioned how long it takes to do the launch snap Count?

Bruce Cobb
January 24, 2017 2:13 pm

Oh noes, not the Doomsday Crock again!

January 24, 2017 2:19 pm

These folks can’t seem to decide if Putin/Trump Bromance is real.

January 24, 2017 2:39 pm

Crank it forward to about 6:00 a.m. Anyone silly enough to be paying attention to that clock could just get a cup of coffee and wake up and find they weren’t doomed to begin with. Start the new day trying to find something else to worry about!

January 24, 2017 2:51 pm

Remember “Galaxy Quest”. The bomb, the threat, whatever always stops at 2 seconds before the time runs out. At 2 minutes or even one, we have lots and lots of time left!

January 24, 2017 3:18 pm

Seem to me that after midnight, a new day starts.

Timo Soren
January 24, 2017 3:47 pm

I would say a few important people are having a ‘growing regard’ for scientific information and a large number of poorly educated academicians are stumbling with understanding this.
Buying into simply the term “ocean acidification” in and of it self shows this fact. C02 can’t bring the ocean to an acid level but can lower it’s alkalinity. ( Even under the 3-4 other pH scales.) Hence, a scientific statement would be ‘moving the ocean towards neutral’ or a ‘lowering of it’s alkalinity’ is a more precise statement of science. The other (OA) is just some science wrapped in politics.
When alarmist someday realize this (if ever) the lightbulb might go on illuminating their own perverse interpretation of what has happened. Including this gross and blanket statement about ‘growing disregard’.
Lastly, the fact that that they added “expertise” to ‘growing disregard for scientific expertise” is a phoney way of saying science is only properly done in consensus mode. BS to that. Anyone who has ever been in a detailed legal situation knows a great deal about dueling experts. With, frequently, 100% opposite views.
So apparently, a bunch of nuclear scientists are so good at climate science AND understanding why ‘we’ (skeptics) are here that they feel empowered to lecture the rest of us.

January 24, 2017 4:07 pm

I would argue the biggest doomsday threats are natural not man made. Meteor strike anyone? How about a nice big volcano in the tropics? Perhaps an earthquake and tsunami to spoil your day…

Walter Sobchak
January 24, 2017 4:08 pm

71 years and their clock is still stopped.

Reply to  Walter Sobchak
January 24, 2017 4:35 pm

Stopped clocks reflect stuck minds.
My prediction? … at one minute before midnight, the world will explode due to natural causes, and there will be nobody left to appreciate the poetic irony of that moment.

January 24, 2017 4:36 pm

Oddly there is a doomsday clock that people feel quite comfortable ignoring:
Very real, very scary.

Edward Katz
January 24, 2017 5:55 pm

Why worry since it seems to me like this clock has been between 11:55 and 11:57 since I was a kid and that was more than a half-century ago. If time continues to move as slowly as the Doomsday Clock, I should still be alive in 2100 or beyond.

LOL in Oregon.. af bit nervious
January 24, 2017 6:13 pm

With the Obama/Kerry nuclear WW III on the horizon,
they likely should move it forward.
The sock puppets Iran and N. Korea will make sure things happen.

January 24, 2017 10:43 pm

Vatican’s Doomsday Clock starting ticking after the First Council of Nicaea in AD 325.
The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists’ Science and Security Board must hurry – they have at least 1600 years catching up to do.

January 24, 2017 11:11 pm

The Atomic Scientists’ Science and Security Board members may have an excuse of University of Cambridge’s blind-faith booster vaccine against scientificus methodicus virus*, but the chair, Foundation Professor Lawrence Krauss, School of Earth and Space Exploration and Physics Department in Arizona State University, should know better.

January 24, 2017 11:54 pm

Well people according to the democrats it is half past midnight and time for bed, the wailing and the inconsolables are having a well deserved rest, let sanity reign for the next 8 years.

January 25, 2017 1:27 am

It started in 1947 at 7 minutes. Went to 3 when the Soviets tested their first nuc in 1949. It was at 2 minutes during the early days of Hydrogen bomb testing in 1953. It went to 3 minutes during the Reagan era until the Berlin wall came down when it went back the furthest it ever has to 17 minutes. It’s now at 3 minutes primarily because of Climate Change and the perceived failure of the developed world to destroy their economies to combat it. If they move it closer to midnight it will be at or beyond the 2 minute mark which is the lowest it’s been. This despite the fact that since WW II globally we have lived in relatively the most peaceful time and are producing more food per capita, and have the best quality of life, than during all the rest of human history.
Timeline of the Doomsday Clock:

January 26, 2017 2:12 pm

Hmmm but didn’t Prince Charles announce that we had 100 months to save the planet?
That was on 5 March 2009. Adding a hundred months takes us to 5 July this year.
While they are adjusting the doomsday time they need to set the date as well, unless they’ve lost the user manual and we all know how hard that can be.

January 28, 2017 6:54 pm

History will show that President Obama’s “Iran Deal” undermined the fundamental soundness of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty by having the Security Council allow a signing state to ignore the provisions and continue to enrich.
Now, that is “being on the wrong side of history.”

Reply to  Neo
January 28, 2017 7:07 pm

Enrichment for fuel assemblies used in nuclear power plants is permitted. The NPT has no provisions in it for enrichment activities. Educate yourself with regards to the “Additional Protocol”

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