150 mph+ winds, 8 feet snow, possible from next California storm

The wind speeds forecast would be Category 4 on the Saffir-Simpson hurricane scale, possibly Cat 5.

The National Weather Service in Reno issued their forecast discussion today for California’s Sierra Nevada, and the forecast of 150 mile per hour plus winds is confirmed, along with 4-8 feet of snow at high elevations:

sierra-snow

FXUS65 KREV 092315
AFDREV

Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Reno NV
315 PM PST Mon Jan 9 2017

.SYNOPSIS…

The weather will remain unsettled through at least Wednesday. These
storms are colder with lower snow levels lessening the flood
threat. However, downstream areas will continue to be susceptible
to flooding through Tuesday afternoon. Aside from the flooding,
heavy Sierra snowfall with periods of rain and snow will continue
into Western Nevada. High winds are also possible Tuesday. Drier
weather is expected late week into the weekend.
&&

.SHORT TERM…

Attention shifts to incoming winter storms over the next couple
days with the biggest impact being heavy snow and blowing snow in
the Sierra. Flooding concern is diminishing today, although there
are still some impacts and concerns for downstream locations
through Tuesday, including east of Sparks on the Truckee River,
the Carson River, and the Middle Fork Feather River near Portola.
A Flood Advisory remains in effect for much of northeastern CA and
western NV as flood waters have been slow to drain from lowland
areas around the Truckee Meadows, Sierra Valley, Carson Valley,
and portions of Lassen County. A few locations still remain
covered by flood waters, including Highway 395 near Johnson Lane
where the Carson River is coming out of it`s banks.

Precipitation is increasing in the Sierra ahead of our next
winter storm that is moving in tonight through Wednesday. Some
convection is developing on the western slopes of the Sierra this
afternoon and will carry over into the eastern Sierra/Tahoe Basin
and even into the lower valley of northeastern CA and western NV
tonight.

We have issued a winter weather advisory for Surprise Valley and
Northern Washoe Counties as high resolution models are showing a
strong potential for several inches of snow tonight for areas north
of Pyramid Lake. Earlier this morning, the high-res models were
showing the potential for a quick 1-2 inches of snow around the
Reno-Carson City-Minden, but have since backed off on this
potential. We still have the mention in the forecast for light snow
around Reno- Carson, but forecaster confidence is rather low. Snow
levels will then rise Tuesday afternoon, possibly rising as high
as 6000-7000 feet north to south before crashing back to the
valley floors by Wednesday morning.

The atmosphere becomes more stable Tuesday morning, with increasing
winds across the region. 700mb flow increases to around 60-70kts,
with very strong winds likely along the Sierra Front Tuesday
afternoon and evening. High winds with gusts up to 65 mph are
likely Tuesday for the Sierra Front areas from Mono County north
to the Oregon border. Wind prone areas, especially those along
US-395 will see gusts up to 80 mph at times. For the Sierra
ridges, we could see winds exceeding 150 mph at times Tuesday. We
have upgraded to a High Wind Warning for the Sierra Front areas.
We may need to issue a wind advisory for Pershing and Churchill
Counties as well, but for now we have their winds just below
advisory.

By Tuesday evening, the front pushes into the region, with heavier
snow in the Sierra and precipitation spilling over into the
valleys of northeast CA and western NV. By Wednesday, we could see
up to 4 to 8 feet of snow in the high Sierra above 7000 feet, with
2 to 5 feet around the Lake Tahoe Basin and around Mammoth Lakes.
Blizzard conditions will occur over the passes and ridges Tuesday
and Tuesday night. Blizzard conditions may also be widespread in
the lower elevations for the Tahoe Basin and 395 corridor in Mono
County Tuesday afternoon and evening.

Snow levels will be coming back down to around 4500-5000 feet
Wednesday morning, with a slight potential for accumulating snow
on the valley floors by early Wednesday morning, although this may
end up mixed with rain. Snow will taper off on Wednesday
afternoon, with light snow continuing in the Sierra through
Thursday morning. There is some uncertainty in another shortwave
for Thursday that may bring additional snowfall to the Sierra.
Hoon

Source: http://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=REV&issuedby=REV&product=AFD&format=CI&version=1&glossary=1

 

129 thoughts on “150 mph+ winds, 8 feet snow, possible from next California storm

      • Remember when snow was going to be a thing of the past by 2012?
        Remember when California was never going to see rain again?
        Remember when the Sierra Nevada was going to be snow free all winter?

        Pepperidge Farm remembers.

      • When there are about 10 million too many people in SoCal than there is water storage capacity for, and when there are millions of acres of fescue grass in a desert to keep green, is anyone really surprised by water shortages. When comparing everything in a normally dry climate to some of the wettest years in SoCal evah!!!, everything looks like a drought.

        When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

      • There’s no such thing as a shortage of water. Never was, is not now, and never will be. Whatever we dream up to use water, however astoundingly wasteful we are with it, whatever the climate future holds, there will always be water, and plenty of it.

        Okay, it is not always in the right place for what we want to do with it, but that’s just engineering (and, if you’re in CA or many other places, politics)

      • mothcatcher: Agreed. There is a certain amount of water available and nature recycles it continuously. Humans may utilize it poorly and live far away from the sources of water, but the water remains irregardless of what we use it for.

      • West Coast ?

        Hey, I’m on the East Coast, and we here in central NC just had 9 inches of snow and really below-average temperatures for the past few days.

        The weather here seems schizophrenic — cold, then unseasonably warm, then cold, now snow in an amount that I haven’t seen in years here — compared to how I remember it as a child.

    • Well the snow could pile up into drifts as high as 28 feet.

      But with those 150 miles per hour category five winds, all of that snow will be blown over into Nevada, so California won’t get any of it.

      But I have dug my shovel out of the garage to have on hand in case any snow lands in Sunnyvale.

      g

  1. Facing a drive out of Mammoth tomorrow. I put on special global warming tire chains. Very messy, but I’ve seen worse around here.

  2. The data cutoff for Drought Monitor maps is each Tuesday at 7 a.m. EST.

    Here’s what it looks like before this week’s update:

    • The El Nino last winter hit Northern California. This year, the weather pattern shifted south though the El Nino was gone. So there may be an El Nino effect, and a latency effect.

    • So what exactly does it take to “break” a drought? Northern and Central California reservoirs are all now filled well over the average for the date. Sierra snow-pack is at about 120% of normal for the date, even before the storm that will hit today through Thursday, and will probably average 75+% of April 1 norm after this storm. Rivers are all at or above flood stage. Soils are saturated. Yet, none of that seems to matter to the drought monitor people. Is drought measured by precipitation percent of average over some set period of time? if so, how does that make sense in light of an event like is occurring this week in California?

  3. Two years ago we were told that was the start of a 200 year megadrought from climate change. To stop it, they started a CO2 exchange. This prediction, is a long list of bloopers, did not pan out very well for them.

  4. AT THE SUMMIT, Anthony. Nothing like that down below the ski resorts. Here in Sacramento, the wind is gusty but not extreme, and the rain isn’t too bad. Nowhere NEAR the flood of 1986!

    • I wondered. That 150 mph stuff sounds a bit off. At the summit, yes. I live in Wyoming and have wind gusts to 80 or more, steady wind at 40 mph, on a fairly regular basis, but we rarely see anything over 100 mph gusts and 55 to 60 mph sustained anywhere in our very windy state.

      [Ha! That’s nothing, the UK is going to get Thundersnow, yes Thundersnow and it is terrifying. Apparently it happens when you have thunder when it’s snowing. And it’s really, really scary and dangerous, apparently . . . mod]

      • I experienced thundersnow here in northern Vermont a few years back. It was amazing! It occurred at night and I was driving home from a friends house. When the first bolt flashed I wondered if I was having a stroke or some kind of flashback. The subsequent four or five bolts were experienced with eyes wide open to capture and remember the sight of a intensely lit country landscape in the midst of a snowstorm, at night.

        I’d like to see it again someday. Very rare stuff.

      • Thunder snow is kind of fun, at least I like to watch the lightning light up the falling snow. Don’t see it too often, but spring in CO is full of extremes.

      • Thundersnow isn’t impossible, I once was playing in the snow in upstate NY when lightning happened, boy, did we run inside, fast!

      • Yup, the loud “crack” of thunder and the bright “flash” of a lightning bolt at nighttime during the “whiteout” conditions of a winter snowstorm ……. is a sight to behold.

        And a really scary sight to behold the 1st time you witness it.

        When it happens it makes one think that they were on the “inside” of a camera’s “flashbulb” when someone “snapped” a picture.

        Every snowflake in the air around you “reflects” and “re-reflects” the bright “white” flash of visible light created by the lightening.

      • Happens more than the “rarely” used to describe it it (as others have noted). It was absolutely fascinating the first time I heard and saw it. It’s just a thunderstorm that produces snow instead of rain. It may be somewhat more dangerous than rain because one cannot always see where the lightening is. I actually liked the whole thundersnow event. Hopefully, you’ll find it interesting in retrospect.

        It does seem to be more widespread these days, though I’m going by memory only on that one.

        (This is Realilty Check responding, using my real name.)

      • In the Mid-Atlantic states thundersnow is not particularly unusual. It seems every few years a cold front passes through chasing warmer muggy air and developing enough uplift to reach thunderstorm status.
        The snow does seem to stifle a thunderstorm’s normal wind blasts.

        Nor terribly dangerous unless you’re standing out side holding a graphite rod in the air or climbing an aluminum pole.

        It’s kinda cool in that the noise is so muffled that the resounding crash doesn’t.

        Besides, I suspect much of the thundersnow is cloud-cloud lightning more than cloud to ground. Still, don’t wave graphite rods and clubs around above one, and be sure to use the fluorescent golf balls.

      • The first thundersnow I witnessed was just outside of Pittsburgh in late November 74. But I have seen it a couple more times in the mid-Atlantic, the last time about 10 years ago.

      • I saw my first Thundersnow in Moorhead Minnesota in the late 70s snowing and blowing hard, the entire sky would light up. It was snowing far too hard to see the bolts of lighting. That storm dropped 18 inches in early November. The next time was in Arizona hunting Elk, camped out only to have snow and thunder and lighting all at the same time. The Mogollon rim can do that, that storm produced not much snow just lots of wind lighting, and noise. It is strange being snowed on when the is a thunderstorm going on.

  5. Ken Mitchell–also here in Sacramento, and totally agree. It’s also nothing like 1862 or, for that matter, 1997. The Yolo spillway has hardly any water, the reservoirs still have capacity, and the snow levels are dropping. Now, if you get caught in a mudslide or avalanche, or your neighborhood floods, it still completely sucks. But–the most recent storm brought 173 mph gusts to ridges at Squaw/Alpine, so color me wary-of-the-ridges-but-not-blown-away (pardon the pun).

    And we will STILL be in a drought because we don’t have a water management system for our huge population.

    • That’s the criminal thing about all of this—that California’s elected officials would rather squander billions on a high-speed rail system that’s rife with waste, mismanagement, and ineffectiveness rather than new systems to move and store water, or inject it back into the aquifer—but since it’s loony California, I’d expect nothing less.

      • The scandal is wasting immense money to move water from where it is to where some idiots want to live and expecting the rest of the state to pay for it. In addition to that, California’s problem is not drought. It’s population. The empirical data has been available for decades. Under worst case water situations as reflected in dendrochronological data (trees aren’t thermometers, but they are first-class rain gauges) we could dam every stream in the state, and there would still not be enough rain for the state population as of 1970. The information was available to Jerry’s dad. Neither, he nor Reagan, Deukmejian, Wilson or Davis has ever bothered to try and sell SoCal on paying their own way with desalinization or some other viable option appropriate to south state idiocy. Also,”storing that water would demand immense reservoirs. Try calculating the actual volume of storage needed to keep us drinking during a 100 year drought There have been two of those in the last 1,000 years, just natural variation. If it is a choice between Northern California agriculture and salmon, vs SoCal crowding, I go for the farmers and salmon.

      • Looks like California has actually double in population since 1970. 19 million to 38 Million.

        And, as stated above, there is no drought. California has massive rainfall every 10-12 years and not much in between. That is NORMAL! Check out the history of major flooding. In my lifetime we have 1955, 1964, 1979, 1983, 1986, 1996-7, 1986, 1997, 2005, and now!!!! 2016. And that just off the top of my head. The lesser rainfall between the major storms is just part of the average. All very normal for us.

        pbh

  6. As of last week, California’s grant total reservoir water level is 102% of average….

    http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/reservoirs/RES

    Following this week of heavy snow and rain, levels will rise even higher…

    Since this doesn’t fit with Leftist narrative of “the worst California drought evaaaaa”, the MSM, of course, doesn’t report reservoir levels are already back to above average levels…

      • Theyouk-san:

        Yes, Leftist political hacks in California will proceed to needlessly dump millions of gallons down rivers to “save the river smelt and the snail darter” and they’ll again face water shortages in a few years… which they’ll blame on Global Warming rather than Leftists’ awful water policies.

        The Leftist envirowackos will not allow new reservoirs to be built, nor will they efficiently use the water reserves that have built up… They’ll squander a huge portion of it.

        And so it goes….

      • You’re right—from Dec 13th to Jan 2nd those governMENTAL yahoos let 227397 acre feet out of Folsom (FOL) reservoir alone. So instead of having ~728000 acre feet in storage (and the commensurate 75% of total capacity) now there’s just ~500000 acre feet which is 41% of total capacity.

        If this isn’t criminal, it ought to be.

      • Forget the frigging snail darter and smelt. Think Chinook and Coho salmon and agriculture. Southern California has all the b****y water it needs right out past the beach. The north state has had more than enough rainfall every year during this “drought” for both agriculture and fishery needs, if we weren’t required to waste it on L.A. and the desert at the south end of the San Joaquin Valley.

      • Criminal? Mind boggling? How much water is in the mountains in the form of snow and more potential for rain with the storm door standing wide open. They have to release water to create storage capacity or risk uncontrolled releases. Educate yourself before you open your virtual pie hole here on the internet.

    • >>This doesn’t fit with Leftist narrative of
      >>“the worst California drought evaaaaa”,

      Yes it does. This is a graphic illustration of the kind of terrible drought-floods they have been forecasting. There are, as you know, no ends to the remarkable qualities and powers of the CO2 molecule.

      R

      • IPCC’s 2013 AR5 Report admits NO increasing severe weather frequency/intensity global trends for 60~100 years for: hurricanes, typhoons, cyclones, droughts, floods, tornadoes, tropical storms, sub-tropical storms, thunderstorms and hail…

        There have always been and there always will be periodic incidences of severe weather events.

        The silly CAGW hypothesis projected increasing trends of severe weather frequency and intensity, but the empirical evidence shows this assertion was WRONG…

        Just another reason why this silly CAGW ho-x should be officially disconfirmed ASAP.

  7. Yesterday (Jan. 8, 2017) the approximately 1000 year-old Pioneer Cabin Tree (aka Tunnel Tree) in California fell in the storm. Have ring studies been done on this particular tree?

    • Well if you dig a tunnel through a tree and get rid of the roots, it will fall over by itself with a little push. The maroons who murdered this tree years ago ought to be lined up and shot. (officially).

      g

      • instead of shooting the tree murders, why not torture them?
        you can cut off their limbs with an axe – just like they do to trees!
        and live stream it.

      • or maybe behead them and yell out NATURE AKBAR!
        you just need to get a gang together who can hold them down for you.
        can’t you just imagine the blood spurting and splashing all hot and red?
        and whatcha wanna bet they were trump supporters anyway, right?
        maroons have no rights- especially to a tree they own.
        you can be sure they were cis gender white guys too, georgie.
        slash them! burn them! teach those suckers who’s the boss around here, georgie.

      • The Wawona tree which was tunneled through in 1881 also fell back in 1969.
        As I live near Calaveras Big Trees, I’ve been through it many times. I’m sure they’ll leave it alone where it fell so I can still see it for the next 500 years or so.

  8. 150 mph winds and 8 feet of snow – is there anything global warming can’t do?

    Speaking of GW, it was below zero in Central Virginia last night. Where’s my goddam global warming?

    • Yes! Petersburg, VA, 20 miles or so south of Richmond, recorded -8 F two nights in a row. Richmond itself had a low of 0 degrees F yesterday, a degree below the all-time record there for the date. Here in Mechanicsville the lowest I saw was three degrees, but that’s still plenty cold. This part of the state got 8 to 12 inches of snow in the storm (which wasn’t really stormy, just continuous steady brisk snowfall for 12 hours or so; occasional gusts of wind, but nothing severe, at least here).

    • It’s gotten down to 8°F overnight here in north central New Jersey. It’s warmer at my in-laws place in Marion, Montana, although that’s due to flip-flop on Wednesday or so.

  9. KT22 beckons and I hear its call. It’s time for me to relocate to Squaw Valley and pound the West Face, 75 Chute, Rock Garden and the rest of the terrain until they close, which at the rate snow has been falling may not be until July.

    • Get there quick CO2, the last time this happened (1996 as I recall) we got 11 feet of snow the week before Christmas, then a pineapple express the week after that dumped a foot of rain up to 9000′. Truckee was under 3 feet of water for almost a week. Couldn’t even get to the supermarkets. It didn’t snow much at all the rest of the season. My wife ended up with pneumonia anyway so she didn’t mind, I was a little peeved though.

      • Oh. And that was the beginning of the “Super El Nino” so since we’re at the end of this one, you’ll probably get luckier than me. No worries :)

        I wish I could still ski. One too many falls off my horse; for me, the war is over…

      • Bartleby,
        Yes, I remember that, but as usual, more colder storms followed. It’s always been like that where storms vary between hot and cold and years vary between wet and dry. Without weather it’s usually quite pleasant, in the 40’s or higher and the bikinis come out even in mid winter.

        There was a warm pineapple express storm on Sunday and Monday. Snow levels were bouncing between 7K and 9K feet. The next series is the topic of this article, is colder and still connected to subtropical moisture with snow levels below lake level (6K feet). The cold storm that passed through last week dropped snow below 1000′ and many feet of light powder on the ridges, which by now is pretty water logged. It will make a good base for spring skiing It’s shaping up to be like 2010/2011 when there was over 800″ of snow at Squaw and there were places in the back country that I’d never been able to ski past mid July and that were skiable until the snow started to fall the next winter. These places are high enough (10K+ feet) that even during the last storm it was all snow, so I anticipate another good summer season.

  10. Might have to get out the yard stick to measure the snow this week.

    If they get four to eight feet of snow, a yard stick might not do.

  11. Meantime, Eastern and Southern Europe is in the grip of a very cold spell that has led to a number of deaths by freezing in Poland, Greece and elsewhere. Moscow reported the coldest Orthodox Christmas Day (January 7th, by the way for all of you that are unlucky not to be of the Orthodox faith) for 120 years. Obviously caused by man-made global warming!!!!!!!

  12. Spring flooding coming. I hope Cali decides to keep some of the water this year. Will a fish not let it happen again?

  13. These “Forecasters”, “Meteorologists”, “Climate Geographer Scientists” should just go FULL MONTY and say that surface winds will be in excess of 1 Million mph and Snow Depths will exceed 3000 miles. The IPCC will not argue!

    After all, This is Al Gore’s Phantasmagoria World isn’t it!

    Hahahahahahhahahahahahh

  14. Despite being in a drought California drains fresh water from dams into the ocean. This is the same state government who’s hubris and stupidity touts itself as being the world leader in CO2 mitigation. Not content with just being an air quality leader California wants to prove to the world it doesn’t understand the difference between pollution and climate.

    • “Despite being in a drought California drains fresh water from dams into the ocean.”

      They have to Mark, it’s very early in the season and CA doesn’t have the capacity to handle another 1998/99 “Super La Nina”. Those reservoirs are dual purpose; they store water and they also control floods. If they get too close to capacity this early in the season they risk flooding the central valley. Decades ago, that would have been good for the farmers but now there are too many people living there. They can’t let it flood so they blow off the water and then ration everyone in the spring.

      It’s a bad situation all around. And yes, we have our “leadership” to blave.

      “To blave. It means “to bluff”. He’s obviously bluffing! This man died in a card game!”

      — Miracle Max, “The Princess Bride”

      • Their primary purpose is flood control–and the guidelines are from the pre-weather satellites 1950’s. The California water system is not nearly as complex as the rules, regulations, and politics in which it is trapped. The whole thing is completely moronic, imho.

  15. The possible ~150 MPH winds are forecast for the Sierra ridges, which means around 11,000-14,000 feet above sea level. Also, the paragraph this was mentioned in says is talking about peak gusts, not the 1-minute-sustained-average that is the main number reported of hurricanes. The 1-minute-sustained will exceed the hourly average however.

    A 150 MPH peak gust is typical of at most 130 MPH 1-minute-sustained-average. Let’s suppose this happens at the 700 mb level, even though I expect such strong wind to be restricted to at least 1,000 feet higher. The latest GFS forecast as of while I am writing this shows the fastest 700 mb wind to be where the 700 mb temperature is around -8 degrees C, around 265 K. The surface pressure in the windiest region a hurricane barely achieving 130 MPH 1-minute-sustained wind at the official 10 meter altitude seems to be typically 955 mb, and the air temperature there seems to be typically around 24 degrees C or 297 K.

    The density of air at 700 mb and 265 K is about 82% of that in the part of the eyewall of a hurricane achieving 130 MPH 1-minute-sustained wind at the official altitude. The force of wind is proportional to windspeed squared and density. This means that 130 MPH at 700 mb and 265 K causes the same force as 118 MPH in a hurricane. Such wind force equivalent is in the lower half of Category 3, not Category 4 or 5.

    • Don, in January of 2007, on the 7th to be specific, I had 4 hours of sustained 110 mph winds at 1900′ in the Santa Cruz mountains of California. It blew out 6 hurricane rated french door in my living room.

      They’re reporting 175 mph winds at Squaw now (~9500′). Yesterday I had 75 mph sustained winds for over 4 hours.

      You can talk this down all you like, but I expect it’s going to get pretty brutal. I’ve been on backup power for three days and haven’t had running water (jet pump failure) since Friday.

    • Oh, and the roads are closed. The pluber called this morning to say he couldn’t get here with a replacement pump due to mudslides in Brookdale that have hwy 9 closed.

      Sorry, just not in the right mood to have anyone blow sunshine up my kilt.

    • Neither. Look at the earth.nullschool.net site or something similar. The air is from the southwest — not cold. Such air carries moisture, thus called an atmospheric river.
      Signal? — no, just weather. Not new. Not unprecedented. And Trump is not responsible. Some may not believe this, but you can quote me.

    • For the moment its just weather, it will have to become a increasing trend for it to turn into climate.
      But if this weather patterning did become more common, then yes it would lead to climate cooling in N America.
      By the way the weather over the Great Lakes area on the 13th could get nasty. As cold air imported all the way from Arctic NE Russia, will flow down cross this area where it meets up with warm air coming from the Pacific. So its likely that the area can expect some heavy snowfalls.

  16. Records are being set in Colorado Springs, too. Sadlly, the great dust up of 2017 has claimed a victim I knew and loved: my grill.

  17. maybe union pacific will need to run the rotaries over donner pass area.
    sweet, will be rail videographers watching for this I expect.

      • Yes! Mentioned to my wife earlier today it would be a great week to visit Donner Memorial State Park again. We could get a taste (no pun intended) of the weather conditions the Donner Party faced.

  18. The YTD Water year at this time (October 1st,2013-September 30th, 2014) in January 9th, 2014 the rain total was a extremely dry 0.53″ of rain! Now my YTD water year rainfall total is 8.81″! That is a 1662% increase!

    • And in three more years, say to 2020, the same RATE OF INCREASE will give about 130 inches. London is pretty dry – at ~23-26 inches/year.
      And by 2026 – eight more doublings – some half a mile of rain.
      Wouldn’t want to be there in 2032 – a hundred miles deep of rain – Grandchild Moonbeam is going to have to open those sluices a million percent! Or more.
      But SoCal will still be in drought.

      Who’s your Noah?

      Or am I, perhaps, extrapolating like a true-believing watermelon???

      Auto – not too bad at multiplying by two.
      But can you believe it?
      Mods – a rhetorical Question.
      Thanks!

  19. Cancel Peak Water.

    The west is wet!

    Snow Water Equivalents (inches) couple days ago -Percent of normal for this date (%) 126
    http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cdeca

    California Data Exchange Center – Reservoirs- most well above average fot his date
    http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cdeca

    Lake Mead and Lake Powell are getting recharged as well.

    . http://lakepowell.water-data.com/LP_Rivers.php
    Rivers feeding Lake Powell are running at 151.46% of the Jan 10th avg. Click for Details

    Upper Colorado River Basin
    SNOTEL Snow/Precipitation Update Report
    https://wcc.sc.egov.usda.gov/reports/UpdateReport.html?report=Upper+Colorado+River+Basin
    Snow water Eq. 158% of median
    Water year to date precip. 164% of average

  20. 70 kts! these storms are not Natural. Someone panicked now that Trump will be President and are doing all they can to fill up the dams with water.
    Now it’s a Storm that’s out of control.

  21. This series of storms is pumping a lot of snow into the mountains. Crusty Butt, er Crested Butte ski area had to close earlier today due to too much snow. There was an avalanche on I-70 at Vail pass overnight trapping a semi.

  22. Someone needs to get a picture of all that snow because kids aren’t supposed to know what it is by now .
    How’s the Al Gore ice free Arctic doing ? Polar bears apparently didn’t get the memo and are flourishing .
    That must be so disappointing to the scary global warming promoters .
    Oh well, time for a new mascot to sell global cooling .

  23. The latest NOAA blizzard and winter storm warnings mention up to 10 feet in higher elevations, 5 to 7 feet at Tahoe lake level, and snow levels down to 4500 feet overnight, dropping to 3000 feet by Thursday morning. Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow!

    • From the NYT link:
      But scientists say that in the more ancient past, California and the Southwest occasionally had even worse droughts — so-called megadroughts — that lasted decades. At least in parts of California, in two cases in the last 1,200 years, these dry spells lingered for up to two centuries.

      The new normal, scientists say, may in fact be an old one.

      I’ll have to go apologize to my SUV. I just told her the other day that the drought in CA was her fault, still young at 8 years old — and she’s never been to CA. I hope she forgives me.

  24. Last time there was thundersnow in my part of the UK in 2002. I was driving to a family get together and it was my job to pick up the food on the way. The only problem was that the snow was falling so heavily that you could only see with the wipers on double speed and even then it was touch and go. I was the only person who made to my sisters house and there was 4 people and $150 of Chinese food that I had brought with me.

  25. The Tahoe Basin went from 146% normal (for date) SWE to 186% overnight. The Sierra just north of Tahoe (and west of Reno) went from 165% to 200% overnight. I watched the radar last night and Tahoe got hammered continuously with snow, and I-80 from the NV state line over Donner Pass was closed completely by 5:00 pm, for the night.

    Squaw Valley USA (NW of Tahoe) had already received 27 fresh inches at 8000 feet by Monday morning (from the tail end of the previous named storm “Iras”). But, looking for a report this morning, every ski resort around Tahoe is CLOSED (for high winds and/or avalanche danger, and probably for digging out) except Heavenly (S. Tahoe) which reports 4 feet fresh snow this morning. I don’t recall ever seeing practically the entire Tahoe ski industry shut down at once, and I’ve lived here for 45 years.

    • As of 06:00 this morning, Squaw Valley USA received 73 inches new snowfall in the last 72 hours. And Kirkwood ski area considerably more. By tomorrow morning, with the current storm in progress, it could be 100 inches in 4 days. Not a bad recovery from the melt-off we had last weekend.

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