Guest essay by Eric Worrall
Professor Joseph A. Palermo, writing for the Huffington Post, thinks anyone who doesn’t agree with climate alarmism shouldn’t be allowed to use any of the products of science.
Republicans, Climate Change, And The New Reality
Joseph A. Palermo
Professor, historian, author
First off, let me be clear: The Republican Party bears responsibility for Donald Trump becoming the 45th President of the United States. The Republican Party nominated him. The party leaders enabled him. There were many complex social, political, and economic forces that produced the Trump catastrophe, but no amount of disassembling and deflecting will change the fact that the Republican Party made this happen.
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Through his public statements and personnel choices Trump has made it clear that he rejects the science of climate change. I’ve always believed that people who dismiss science in one area shouldn’t be able to benefit from science in others. If Trump and his cohort believe the science of global warming is bogus then they shouldn’t be allowed to use the science of the Internet for their Twitter accounts, the science of global positioning for their drones, or the science of nuclear power for their weaponry.
The oil, coal, and gas companies use the same scientific methodology to extract resources that climate scientists use to confirm the planetary disaster that awaits us. It’s pretty crazy to see the U.S. government abandon science when it conflicts with corporate profits, while Trump’s donors from Big Ag, Big Banks, and Big Pharma deploy science to patent new life forms, engage in “high frequency” trading, and invent new drugs.
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Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joseph-a-palermo/republicans-climate-chang_b_13866868.html
The history of science is riddled with episodes of error, mass delusion and group think.
We don’t reject Sir Isaac Newton because he believed in Alchemy, we recognize the great man made a few mistakes, and accept the enormous contribution Newton made to mathematics and physics.
We don’t reject the work of Einstein because he was wrong about the nature of Quantum randomness. We accept that scientists can be wrong.
We don’t reject the entire field of medicine because for many decades, the medical community wrongly rejected the theory that many stomach ulcers are caused by a bacterial infection.
And we don’t reject free speech, because some people say things with which we disagree.
If the good Professor believes denial of science is sufficient reason to be forbidden the fruits of science then it is he and his similar thinking brethren who should be denied those benefits. The science tells us exactly what Trump is saying – CO2 is not the primary driver of global temperature and climate. All the evidence tells us that, and any objective scientist, myself included, can see that with little effort. Denial of science is when you ignore all objective evidence and try to pretend the real world is what happens in a rigged computer fairyland model, a model that consistently makes predictions that the real world refutes.
As for blaming the Republican party for the election of Trump, if it is blame it must be blame for failure, as it would seem the vast majority of the republican party did everything they could to prevent his election. What about the blame for Democrats who ignored a large part of the American public, or Clinton who treated those who supported her opponent as totally irrelevant. Lets not forget it isn’t just Trump that was elected (and by a landslide under the rules of the Electoral College), but a raft of state and federal leaders on the Republican side.
Maybe it is just me but when a voting public decide overwhelmingly they they want change, get out and vote for the change and successfully elect leaders who promise to bring that change, I can’t see why blame is even a concern – that is the success we expect and deserve from democracy.
No one knows for certain what a Trump presidency will bring, but if he fulfills his stated intention to dismantle a lot of the burdensome, massively expensive and frankly useless regulation put in place by a slew of government agencies and the UN over the past many decades, he will likely reinvigorate American and other Western economies, allowing the world as a whole to prosper. Nations with the highest numbers of citizens living in privation will once again jump on the path to human development and economic success as they throw off the imposed shackles of international welfare and industrial restraint that the UN and World Bank see fit to impose.
Maybe Trump doesn’t have the smarmy charm and school boy looks of Obama or my own country’s playboy Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, but electors don’t need a bubble-headed fashion model, they need good policy. Virtue, wisdom and strength are not fashion labels.
Amen to that!
He is free to think that way because we don’t live in the Totalitarian society that he is advocating. The thought police will take away your pacemaker because you are a bad citizen.
It is interesting that someone this fascist reaches the position of Professor at University. Of course the entire left would love Trump to be banned from twitter, because he has been so dextrous using it.
Twitter and the blogosphere have been partial antidotes to all the fake news rained upon us by the MSM over the last 15 years, and the left hates that they no longer have control. Look out for further attempts to get him banned from media of this type.
Apparently, quoting Obama, “elections have consequences” is only acceptable in one direction.
“Disassembling”? From someone who claims to be educated and a professor?
https://www.vocabulary.com/articles/chooseyourwords/disassemble-dissemble/
I have always believed people who misuse English in one area should not be allowed to benefit from its use in others.
I’m fixin’ to agree with you, pretty soon.
I think Climate Scientists and their deranged scheming, proved the tipping point for the electorate in favour of Brexit in the UK and Trump in the USA.
Those who oppose Trump and Brexit, generally support Climate Scientists and have forced taxpayers to support Climate Scientists lifestyles too.
It is important to give Climate Scientists the credit for achieving something.
Dear golf charlie:
I think you raise a good point.
The “deranged scheming”, Climate Scientists (per yr quote — thanx!) have completely over-played their hands in their ever-increasing, hysterical, “tipping-point”, apocalyptic visioning to advance their nefarious cause (sinecures & prestige for life!??) There comes a point where the Average Joe just doesn’t believe the B_S any more. Same with the Brexit-win; same with Trump’s.
The Brits have a lovely legal principle concerning the jury-system, which runs something like this: “Twelve (wo)men good & true …. what the average (wo)man on the Clapham omnibus would think”. [Pls improve/correct.] The Jury is now, case-by-case, coming IN!
In the end-result, excesses [of whatever] will be curtailed by the restitutional forces applied to the pendulum at extreme reach, and/or the revolutionary machetes wielded by the over-exploited masses (for which read taxpayers, freezing Grannies, etc.)
Gotta say this epistle from ivory tower land is absolutely the most idiotic in my experience.
As one of the folks who had the privilege of assisting in the implementation of the internet, I’ve told Joe to stop using it. He shouldn’t be any further problem. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
“…but no amount of disassembling and deflecting…”
I think he means ‘dissembling.’ They don’t teach much English at Cornell. –AGF
You can’t fix stupid. Instead of pausing to reflect, the Left is doubling down. They still don’t get it. I’m starting to wonder if they ever will.
I hope not. It is so entertaining watching them self destruct.
It would be entertaining if it didn’t have the potential to be so dangerous. Remember what PT Barnum is alleged to have said, “There’s a sucker born every minute.”
i think they will be more dangerous if they do get it than if they continue their current path of increaingly strident temper tantrums. Their current behavior is helping to convince the somnambulant masses that the left is full of soup. If they change to subtler tactics they will be harder to out.
But before he self-destructs, he will destroy the lives of a lot of students. Still too naive to recognize socialist bull when they hear it.
Reminds me of the Catholic Principle….. I’m not a Catholic, but the mantra was something life: “Get ’em brainwashed before 5[??] and THEY ARE OURS FOREVER!
This is how Brainwashing works …. Catholics forever; The Church of Alarmism too.
Quit wondering – they won’t.
But life in The Bubble is sooooo comforting.
“… that climate scientists use to confirm the planetary disaster that awaits us.”
So the planetary disaster has now been confirmed? I must have missed that scientific paper.
Ban PEOTUS Trump from Twitter? No way; he’d probably turn around and buy Twitter. It will be nice for a change to have President who can’t be bought.
by many accounts Twitter will likely be cheap….
I'[ll get my coat
I don’t think he could afford it.
Did I miss something here about the professor’s remarks about Donald Trump’s financial backing for his campaign? I thought Trump spent a fraction of Clinton’s money on the election. Maybe I misunderstood, but I thought the American people elected the president, not just the members of the Republican Party.
And where did Hilary’s money come from? Some questions about the dodgy sources and the promises made perhaps?
It seems the liberal elite only accepts democracy when it gives the “correct” result. And a refusal to accept the legitimacy of any dissenting viewpoint bodes ill for the future.
Moderately Cross,
You might want to rephrase part of your 1st paragraph immediately above.
I doubt that Donald Trump spent ANY of Clinton’s money on the election… which
is how you’ve structured the sentence.
I think you meant to say that compared to Hillary’s campaign, he only spent a fraction
of the amount she spent.
His Twitter-pated news flashes cost almost nothing… and didn’t involve a huge
advertising outlay.
Self-proclaimed Historian says:
“I’ve always believed that people who dismiss science in one area shouldn’t be able to benefit from science in others.”
Well, as an Official Graduate in Philosophy, I’ve always believed that wannabe Totalitarians and those who need Totalitarianism to decide for them how to live their lives should move out of America to places like North Korea or Iran. So there!
+ the number of stars in the Milky Way.
Let them eat crow.
Yes, ban the only person keeping Twitter alive. Sounds like a solid business plan.
Liberals and a “business Plan” I just about … my pants laughing when I read that !
“First off, let me be clear: The Republican Party bears responsibility for Donald Trump becoming the 45th President of the United States.”
What world does this professor live in, does he not know that the entire elite of the Republican party tried unsuccessfully to stop Trump and it was the people who put him where he is?
I knew there were a lot of left wing wacko’s in this country, but I did not realize there are so many and how mean spirited and undemocratic they actually are toward those who have even slightly different opinions.
Finally, just think how mean spirited and inconsiderate they would have been if they won the election and imposed all their beliefs and mandates on roughly half the population. Dread the thought.
“What world does this professor live in, does he not know that the entire elite of the Republican party tried unsuccessfully to stop Trump and it was the people who put him where he is?”
Bingo!
“First off, let me be clear: The Republican Party bears responsibility for Donald Trump becoming the 45th President of the United States.”
He acts like that is a bad thing. Only for him and the Left. 🙂
Republicans are happy to take on this responsibilty. The non-Leftist people of the U.S. and the world will thank them for it eventually.
In 24 days a new era will dawn. Get ready for a rollercoaster ride, as change is implemented. The Left will be in full attack mode. Of course, they have been in full attack mode for a while now, and what has that gotten them? Answer: Trump. Keep it up, guys.
In the meantime, how many more disasters will Obama create in the next 24 days? Answer: As many as he can.
After Obama leaves Office he is saying he is going to be active politically. Let’s see how many people listen to him after he has no power. To be ignored is probably the worst of fates to Obama. I’m going to do my part.
22 Days and a wake up.
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/g-elijah-dann/climate-change-science_b_13826198.html
I’m seeing more blogs like this in the last few weeks at Huff and Puff Post than I have in the last year. Looks like they are trying to corral all the true believers to be branded and marketed.
It’s very strange, but whenever I was doing complex heat transfer calculations, I would get another scientist to verify them for me. I don’t ever recall getting a whacky historian to check them over.
Sorry, it was the democrats that fueled Trump’s campaign and success.
Cramming stuff down our throats and up our posteriors for 8 years. Not working with republicans in Congress, demanding their way or no way.
Trump was simply the only one with the balls to say what everyone was feeling.
The career politician republicans were too afraid to rock the boat, didn’t want to chance losing all the perks they have come to love in Washington.
But since Trump wasn’t a politician, was an outsider, he had nothing to lose and everything to gain by being outspoken, venting the frustration so many have felt for so long.
But have the democrats learned? Apparently not. Instead of taking a good hard look at themselves they would rather try to silence the people that point out their faults.
“Sorry, it was the democrats that fueled Trump’s campaign and success.
Cramming stuff down our throats and up our posteriors for 8 years. Not working with republicans in Congress, demanding their way or no way.”
Yeah, I just love it when I hear Democrats and Obama complaining that Republicans fought Obama on everything he did. This is simply not true. The Repubicans gave Obama everything he wanted, while putting up pathetic, unsuccessful efforts to kill Obamacare for show, to make their constituents think they were doing something.
Meanwhile, the Republicans signed off on Obama adding $8 TRILLION dollars to the national debt in eight years, a figure that is more than all presidents before him combined.
Now that Trump is becoming president, watch all the congresscritters suddenly discover the budget deficit. You couldn’t get them to talk about it under Obama, but they will certainly be talking about it now.
That’s ok. If anyone can fix our budget problems, it is Trump, and we need to talk about it amongst ourselves, so I have no problem with Congress bringing the subject up as long as they remember it was they who foisted this huge debt on us to begin with. I can feel the hypocrisy bubbling up in the Congress now.
A strong economy and good fiscal condition is the first thing needed to assure national security. We can’t defend ourselves adequately if we are broke.
We have the best opportunity in my lifetime to turn our fiscal situation around if we can just get enough people on the same page. We know what needs to be done, so let’s do it.
What needs to be done = Trump’s plan.
His screed has provenance, and a bit of word substitution would probably have convicted Gallileo. Or Socrates. Oops. Did. Didn’t elect Gore, but the flock differs on that.
“…no amount of disassembling…? Professor, historian, author? All that and illiterate, too?
Eric,
“We don’t reject Sir Isaac Newton because he believed in Alchemy….”
Why would we? He intuited/anticipated fission and fusion, it seems to me . .
First off, let me be clear: Joseph A. Palermo is an idiot. His entire rant, devoid of logic, facts, or a smidgeon of truth is proof. There is no fool look an educated one.
” If Trump and his cohort believe the science of global warming is bogus then they shouldn’t be allowed to use the science of the Internet for their Twitter accounts, the science of global positioning for their drones, or the science of nuclear power for their weaponry.”
If people disagree with the benefits to mankind of coal fired power stations then they shouldn’t be allowed to use the electricty that these stations produce.
Fixed.
Yet another watermelon who’s promoting totalitarian censorship.
Who’d a thunk it?
Planetary disaster? Good grief these idiots make me sick.
We really should stop debating this. The intellectual integrity of the Western World is hopelessly compromised. Say what you will. Tell the truth if you can. The opposition will only call it propaganda and dismiss it. People have taken the attitude that its my way or the highway. There is nothing left but to drive the opposition, whatever it is, from any influence and power.
There is increasing evidence that the world is descending into a mini ice age after the Dalton and Maunder Minimums. Indeed, there may be follow through decades from now into a return to the deep cold of the Ice Age with the end of the current interglacial period. This argues we will need all the power we can get. Fossil, nuclear, or whatever.
It is possible this decision cannot be put off very much longer. Agriculture is very sensitive to small changes in temperature. Adjustments towards colder conditions will likely have to begin within a few years with follow through in succeeding decades as colder conditions manifest. This will require both a practical and a philosophical shift in viewpoint away from visions of an increasingly tropical Earth.
This kind of thing is the real reason wars are sometimes necessary. So regrettable, but sometimes decisions can not be put off longer and, good or bad, simply have to come from the muzzle of a gun.