I have often noted that the number of climate scientists (including both real-and self proclaimed) around the world is quite small, and those with certain areas of expertise, such as in paleoclimatology is even smaller. This leads to the problem of finding qualified reviewers for scientific papers. Looking for something else today, I came across this Climategate email, and I thought it worth looking at in that context. While this email has had some discussions on forum comments, I don’t think it has ever been made a front and center topic.
Below is a screencap of an email sent by Professor Phil Jones of the Climate Research Unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia.
So, what’s going on here is that Phil Jones is trying to influence a review of a paper that officemate Tim Osborn is doing, but he wants people he’s asking to “forget” that he ever inquired about the issue so that Phil [ensures Tom] is “squeaky clean” when it comes to his opinion.
Climate Science at it’s best, don’t you think?
UPDATE: I missed this while on holiday travel yesterday:
Climatologist Prof Phil Jones, who was at the centre of the Climategate row over hacked emails, will be succeeded by Prof Timothy Osborn.
Prof Osborn, who has worked at the UEA since 1990, said: “UEA provides a superb environment for climate research and so it is a privilege for me to become the Climatic Research Unit’s next director of research.
“I’m looking forward to leading our pioneering climate research, establishing with greater certainty the details of how and why the Earth’s climate is changing and the consequences for the future.”
…
“I am not leaving UEA, but will continue my research on a part-time basis.”
Prof Jones made national headlines in 2009, when UEA emails were hacked in what became known as Climategate.
Climate change sceptics claimed the content of the emails showed that scientists were manipulating data.
But a string of committees found no evidence of fraud or scientific misconduct.
Source: http://www.edp24.co.uk/news/environment/uea_s_climatic_unit_director_steps_down_1_4829565 (h/t to reader “mikewaite” and Paul Homewood
Little fish, caught a big wave, rode it way, way, longer than he or any imagined possible.
How history will regard this particular man and the climate debate is going to be interesting. From the emails, he does not fair well, from the destruction of original data he does not fair well! So it is difficult to envisage him as a scientist.
Squeaky clean? Like torturing the data until it squeaks?
/snark
The squeaking and cleaning will start on 1-20-2017.
http://brownb315.weebly.com/uploads/8/9/4/1/8941926/squeakycleanlogo_orig.jpg
lol — good graphic find, O’s and Q’s. 🙂
So, they are just gonna keep it in the family. Did Phil give Tim tree fiddy? If he did that is why he won’t go away, damned Loch Ness Monsta!
“a string of committees found no evidence of fraud “No, no, no, that’s not what happened. A committee of strings investigated, and when they were asked if any fraud took place, they said, “we’re a frayed knot.”
[ba DUMP bump]
ps. More thought went into this joke than went into those investigations.
lol 🙂
http://michaelkelly.artofeurope.com/cru.htm
clipe! That was SO FUNNY. Digusting, but FUNNY. “Is this for real?” I thought as I read it. I’d forgotten just HOW bad those e mails were. lol. (Sickening, though.)
Here’s to Steven McIntyre, et al.:
From the Climategate emails:
” Janice,
Most of the data series in most of the plots have just appeared on the CRU web site. Go to data then to paleoclimate. Did this to stop getting hassled by the skeptics for the data series. Mike Mann refuses to talk to these people and I can understand why. They are just trying to find if we’ve done anything wrong.
Damn them! Damn their impudence!”
That is SO telling! These guys are all about deception. And so arrogant.
“But a string of committees found no evidence of fraud or scientific misconduct.”
You can’t find what you don’t look for. The string of committees ran a string of exonerations, not investigations. I read transcripts and listened to recordings of the sessions. They just didn’t ask the right questions.
IIRC Jones was able to set the the scope of the data and questions of those committees. So the result was as expected, nothing to see here, move along.
When criminals are the ones investigating their crimes of course they find no crimes. Democrat Party has built this in to a form of art, and that is where “climate scientists” go to hire their legal counsel.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/7530961/Can-we-trust-the-Climategate-inquiry.html
Who was the woman (and what was the actual quote) who said something like “Who needs an inquiry when you can clearly see fraud” – or something like that ? I’m annoyed with myself that I can’t recall the exact quote.
Ross King. I think you’ve let your rage run riot here. Sorry you don’t like my humour, can’t be helped! No, not a UEA stooge or any of the other over the top nonsense you suggest. Nor do I think people ever change their mind by being insulted however, as TA points out, frustrated one gets by their resistance to change. Please feel free to ignore my occasional contributions to WUWT discussions, I’ve never regarded them as in any way definitive or of world shattering importance. But a lot of the articles and contributions are important and interesting.
FAO Janice Moore,
I do not know whether it is because I am in England that I could find this, but this pdf should be of interest.
http://hidethedecline.eu/media/AutoDMI/Statistical%20analysis%20of%20DMI%20and%20Frank%20Lanser%20data%20short%20version%20(2).pdf
He might also be on Facebook.
Thank you, Perry. That was so kind of you to do that. Perhaps it IS because I am in the U.S. that I cannot access Lansner’s site. Clicking just now on the link you provided above, I, once again, only got this grimly terse message:
Not Found
The requested URL /media/AutoDMI/Statistical analysis of DMI and Frank Lanser data short version (2) was not found on this server.
Apache / ZoneOS Server at hidethedecline.eu Port 80
🙁
If you would be so kind, if you can access Mr. Lansner’s site and if there is an e mail address/other means of contact with him, how about asking him if he’s okay and reporting back? If you would, also, let him know we U.S.’ns can’t access his site anymore. Or, just copy a bit of the most recent writing there by Frank (and note the date for us)?
Grateful for you!
Janice
Janice, the link is broken because it omits the “.pdf” at the end. If you copy the entire text WITH the “.pdf” included and paste it into your address field, you’ll see the file.
Google search.
The Arctic Sea Ice Canary Refuses to Die | Energy Matters
euanmearns.com/the-arctic-sea-ice-canary-refuses-to-die/
5 Sep 2014 – Another source for historic sea ice data comes from this amazing article by Frank Lanser in WUWT. The article displays many beautiful maps …
http://euanmearns.com/the-arctic-sea-ice-canary-refuses-to-die/
DMI’s Danske Temperaturmålinger 1873-2012 Version I – Klimadebat.dk
http://www.klimadebat.dk/…/dmis-danske-temperaturmaalinger-1873-20...
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22 Jan 2014 – 11 posts – 3 authors
Dette er bl.a. sket via en artikel i Ekstra Bladet skrevet af Frank Lanser Klima-Frank:Temperatur-målingerne DMI ikke taler om. I denne artikel …
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Frank Lanser hævder, at saltkoncentrationen for hele havet omkring Antarktis er voksende. Der er ikke belæg for denne påstand i de data, der …
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Frank Lanser har i mange indlæg behandlet Sahel og selv om han som udgangspunkt afviser den menneskabte globale opvarmning og …
It is interesting to remember Climategate now, just after the US elections, and the Democratic National Committee-gate / Wikileaks-gate / Russia-gate / DNC-gate.
Several ingredients are similar in these 2 cases.
1) In Climate-gate there were furious attempts to highlight “hack” versus possible “leak”.
2) There was no acknowledgement of the corruption. In both cases the “hack” / “leak” would not have been newsworthy if it did not reveal corruption, wrong-doing, collusion, nefarious practices, lack of integrity.
3) An attempt to deflect to other news, other issues, rather than actually address the corruption and nefarious practices.
4) Massive arrogance in that there was an assumption that the public accepted these practices or that the people involved were somehow above the law.
5) Both were largely products of the left.
Climategate and Democratic National Committee-gate: same type of issue, same response, wilfull ignorance, deception, cover-up.
They are all inextricably intertwined. Problem is Democrat Party can survive without “climate scientists”, while “climate scientists” are defunded and broke without Democrat Party patrons. Really rather sad for science, letting these scumbags drag real scientists down into the political cesspool they exist in.
Anthony: Typo in your head post: “Tom” should be “Tim” in:
Janice,
I hope this works. http://hidethedecline.eu/media/AutoDMI/Statistical%20analysis%20of%20DMI%20and%20Frank%20Lanser%20data%20short%20version%20(2).pdf
I wish it had. 🙁
Thanks, anyway! 🙂
Cut & paste the whole link including the pdf in black. That works for me.
Hey! Cool. Thank you, Perry! That gave me access to the .pdf.. And that was nice. I guess, however, that what I’m looking to find I did not make clear. I hoped to find: 1) Frank’s website (and be able to access it) — and not for the site’s contents, but to see a recent post by Frank to verify if he is okay; and or 2) to hear of Frank’s well-being from some other evidence/testimony.
In other words, I’m grateful to you for the excellent content you provided. What I’m after, though, is mostly, “Is Frank Lansner okay?” (as well as a way for me and others to access his site)
Janice
Re: Hide the Decline websits
Whenever I just enter (cut and paste or any search method or directly typing it in) the Hide the Decline website in the navigation bar, it comes back with “Not used RSS …. click here to receive RSS feeds from Hid the Decline …. Login…. Username…. Password…. etc..”
websits!!!! lolololol
Janice Moore December 29, 2016 at 9:56 am
Janice I think he is fine. When you showed concern for him the first thing I checked for was an Obit. Thankfully I did not find one. I feel a bit creepy bringing the “point” up, I don’t know how else to convey the information.
michael
Thank you, Mike. No, NOT creepy. Good to know!
#(:))
Time to stop calling them scientists.
+1
Hence the use of ” ” when speaking of them. And it really pisses them off no end.
Well Yes, such is handed down to us as ‘russian hackers’ pro Trump / against Hillary – Obama:
phil-jones-retires
Climatologist Prof Phil Jones, who was at the centre of the Climategate row over hacked emails,