World Mourns Mass Murderer and Climate Warrior Fidel Castro

Wojciech Jaruzelski and Fidel Castro (May 1972)
Wojciech Jaruzelski and Fidel Castro (May 1972). By The original uploader was Emax at English Wikipedia (Transferred from en.wikipedia to Commons.) [Public domain], via Wikimedia Commons
Guest essay by Eric Worrall

Expressions of sympathy have poured in from around the world from fellow murderous dictators and fellow climate warriors like Canadian PM Justin Trudeau, for the death of the Cuban dictator Fidel Castro.

The Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau, today issued the following statement on the death of former Cuban President Fidel Castro:

“It is with deep sorrow that I learned today of the death of Cuba’s longest serving President.

“Fidel Castro was a larger than life leader who served his people for almost half a century. A legendary revolutionary and orator, Mr. Castro made significant improvements to the education and healthcare of his island nation.

“While a controversial figure, both Mr. Castro’s supporters and detractors recognized his tremendous dedication and love for the Cuban people who had a deep and lasting affection for “el Comandante”.

“I know my father was very proud to call him a friend and I had the opportunity to meet Fidel when my father passed away. It was also a real honour to meet his three sons and his brother President Raúl Castro during my recent visit to Cuba.

“On behalf of all Canadians, Sophie and I offer our deepest condolences to the family, friends and many, many supporters of Mr. Castro. We join the people of Cuba today in mourning the loss of this remarkable leader.

Source: http://pm.gc.ca/eng/news/2016/11/26/statement-prime-minister-canada-death-former-cuban-president-fidel-castro

President Obama’s eulogy was sympathetic, if a little less enthusiastic than Prime Minister Trudeau;

We know that this moment fills Cubans–in Cuba and in the United States–with powerful emotions, recalling the countless ways in which Fidel Castro altered the course of individual lives, families, and of the Cuban nation

Read more: http://sports.yahoo.com/news/president-obama-fidel-castro-death-170615139.html

Murderous Syrian tyrant Bashar Assad joins Prime Minister Trudeau and President Obama in mourning the Cuban climate warrior.

… Syria President Bashar al-Assad on Saturday hailed Fidel Castro’s “legendary resistance” to the embargo imposed by the United States against Cuba in a statement marking the death of the revolutionary leader. “The great leader Fidel Castro led his people’s and his country’s struggle against imperialism and hegemony for decades,” Assad, whose government is facing US sanctions, said in a message of condolences.

“His resistance became legendary and inspired leaders and people all over the world,” he said in the letter addressed to Castro’s brother Raul, who is president of Cuba. “Cuba, a friendly country, was able thanks to its leaders to resist against the toughest sanctions and most unjust campaigns in our modern history,” Assad said, referring to the US embargo on the island. …

Read more: http://indianexpress.com/article/world/world-news/fidel-castro-death-syria-bashar-al-assad-us-4397096/

Fidel Castro’s brother Raul, the thug who inherited the Cuban dictatorship from his ailing brother, is committed to continuing Castro’s battle against Climate Change and any political dissidents, artists and homosexuals who have so far escaped Cuba’s brutal extra judiciary punishment of such offences.

Remarks by President Obama and President Raul Castro of Cuba in a Joint Press Conference

More broadly, we’re moving ahead with partnerships in health, science, and the environment. Just as Cubans and American medical teams have worked together in Haiti against cholera, and in West Africa against Ebola — and I want to give a special commendation to Cuban doctors who volunteered and took on some very tough assignments to save lives in West Africa in partnership with us and other nations. We very much appreciate the work that they did. Our medical professionals will now collaborate in new areas, preventing the spread of viruses like Zika and leading new research into cancer vaccines. Our governments will also work to protect the beautiful waters of this region that we share.

And as two countries threatened by climate change, I believe we can work together to protect communities and our low-lying coasts. And we’re inviting Cuba to join us and our Caribbean and Central American partners at this spring’s regional energy summit in Washington.

Read more: https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2016/03/21/remarks-president-obama-and-president-raul-castro-cuba-joint-press

President Raul Castro on Climate Change;

President Raul Castro Warns on Consequences of Climate Change

Cuba´s President Raul Castro, denounced today here that the global temperature rise will compromise first, integrity and physical existence of many countries and island nations, and will produce serious consequences to the Third World.

Key Remarks of President Raul Castro at Rio+20

“Despite the milestone that marked the United Nations Convention on Climate Change, emissions of carbon dioxide increased by 38 percent between 1990 and 2009”, said Raul Castro speaking at the plenary session of the Summit United Nations Conference on Sustainable Development, Rio +20.

Read more: http://www.ahora.cu/en/sections/world/3846-president-raul-castro-warns-of-consequences-of-climate-change

President Obama and President Raul Castro’s remarks echo Fidel Castro’s earlier commitment to fighting climate change in 2012.

Fidel Castro warns of climate change

Havana – Cuba’s iconic revolutionary Fidel Castro warned that the world was on an “inexorable” march into the abyss this year because of climate change and the threat of nuclear war.

In an article published on Thursday – Castro’s first since November 2011 – the 85-year-old retired leader also took aim at the United States and at gas shale “fracking”, a new source of fossil fuels condemned by environmentalists.

He did not, however, address rumours of his death, which were denied by an official Cuban blogger after they surfaced on Twitter earlier this week.

“Many dangers threaten us, but two of them, nuclear war and climate change, are decisive and are drifting further away from a solution,” he wrote in an article entitled “The March Towards the Abyss.”

Read more: http://www.news24.com/World/News/Fidel-Castro-warns-of-climate-change-20120106

Some Cuban exiles in Miami, who seem hung up on how many of their relatives and friends were brutalised and murdered by Castro and his thugs, are distracting attention away from Castro’s climate warrior legacy.

Castro was a mass murderer

President Obama said this about the death of Fidel Castro: “History will record and judge the enormous impact of this singular character.”

And I say “Fidel Castro was a mass murderer who ordered the killing of thousands of innocent Cubans, in order to scare and control the rest of the Cuban population.”

He had a peaceful death, but in his final days he should have experienced a lot of suffering; he should have been dragged through the streets of Havana, like Mussolini in Italy, and then hanged.

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/letters-to-the-editor/article117295703.html

President-elect Trump also criticised the Cuban dictator’s reign;

“Fidel Castro’s legacy is one of firing squads, theft, unimaginable suffering, poverty and the denial of fundamental human rights”

Read more: http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/11/26/eu-chief-juncker-praises-hero-fidel-castro/

Some critics have mocked Trudeau’s heartfelt eulogy for his fellow green on Twitter, completely ignoring Castro’s strong stand against global warming.

https://twitter.com/FowlCanuck/status/802592021131259904

https://twitter.com/Integralmathyt/status/802599390623899648

https://twitter.com/realMaxRenn/status/802608014842855424

https://twitter.com/RenegadeMinds/status/802607939617980416

https://twitter.com/TheC0zmo/status/802607935130046465

Source: http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/11/26/trudeaueulogies-trends-on-twitter-to-mock-canadian-pms-praise-of-castro/

Despite the criticism, I’m confident that Fidel Castro will be remembered by the liberal elite as one of their own – someone who stopped at nothing to address the twin problems of overpopulation and carbon pollution, by murdering lots of people, especially people who disagreed with him, and by doing everything in his power to halt harmful economic growth, by shackling his country’s economy to the grinding misery of decades of communist stagnation.

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November 26, 2016 10:49 pm

But a President Hillary wouldn’t have done Fidel any favors,… cause apparently he didn’t ever pay out donate any money to her criminal syndicate charity foundation.
The world’s globalists socialists are really showing their true colors as of late.

Marcus
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
November 26, 2016 11:19 pm

..Trump has set their world on fire, and they were too cheap to hire firefighters !

Bryan A
Reply to  Marcus
November 27, 2016 12:02 am

Firefighters hell…all they could afford was 3 guys and a keg of beer

Flyoverbob
Reply to  Marcus
November 27, 2016 6:39 am

Trump has done no such thing. The Blue Garbage Babies have set fire to the Coastal People’s Republics. After Jan 20 the Green Blob should start feeling the pain of starvation as their grant, subsidy, and mandate sustenance is withdrawn. There will be fires but they will be fires of panic and frustration in self destruction.

Paul Westhaver
Reply to  Marcus
November 27, 2016 10:34 am

Yes the world is on fire with enthusiasm, by self-determinants, now amplified with the death of a tyrant. Death has a way with stopping tyrants.
Trudeau ( Canada’s progressive tyrant) is a pig. He is a pig, raised by pigs, empowered by pigs, and elected by pigs, the stupid, and the self interested. He has be caught in a serious pay to play scandal involving the Chinese. We’ll be able to soon say good-bye to yet another liberal pig.

MarkW
Reply to  Marcus
November 28, 2016 12:27 pm

Wasting beer on a fire? That’s downright criminal.

JohnKnight
Reply to  Marcus
November 28, 2016 2:31 pm

Me thinks he’s talking about . . used beer, Mark ; )

rocketscientist
Reply to  Marcus
November 28, 2016 2:38 pm

Hopefully they have the good sense to first filter the beer through their kidneys.

Reply to  Marcus
November 28, 2016 7:36 pm

For the bien-pensants, Trump’s usurpation of the White House (Clexit) was the left hook, straight upside the jaw, in the right-left-right combo that is 2016 AD.
After Brexit and Clexit, the last thing they needed was news that el Comandante was dead and unceremoniously cremated.
BrExit + ClExit + CastrAtion = Annus Deplorabilis.

John A
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
November 27, 2016 3:05 am

Oh great, another conspiracy theorist. Fact free and deeply ignorant, Donald Trump is your President

RockyRoad
Reply to  John A
November 27, 2016 9:40 pm

Yes, John–keep that head of yours shoulder deep in sand; spew that Liberal bilge you’ve swallowed by the gallon; enjoy lying to yourself until reality no longer defines your existence. If you work really, really hard, you’ll find it is YOU who is free of facts and so deeply ignorant that there’s no redemption; such is your downward spiral into irrelevancy.

kolnai
Reply to  John A
November 28, 2016 5:13 am

Three cheers, John A for exposing denier ignorance. And here’s another ignoramus, Nikita Kruschev, with his cable to Castro in early November 1963:
‘In your cable of October 27th you proposed that we would be the first to carry out a nuclear strike against the enemy’s territory. Naturally, you understand where this would lead us. It would not be a simple strike, but the start of a thermonuclear world war……First of all, Cuba would have burned in the fires of war….without a doubt the Cuban people would have perished heroically’. (sic!) (sick!)
And yet another dodo, Ernesto ‘Che’ Guevera on the missile crisis:
‘Here is an electrifying example of a people prepared to suffer nuclear immolation so that its ashes may serve as a foundation for new societies’
AS IF!! Pity old Fidel ain’t here to defend himself, eh?
Or – is it?

Latitude
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
November 27, 2016 7:55 am

But a President Hillary wouldn’t have done Fidel any favors,…
====
Of course she would have…no different than Obama
The progressives (communists) in this country wanted to keep him propped up, just like the rest of the communists of the world…
To show the world how successful their agenda/ideology is……..
Look how they promote his/Cuba’s education, medical, etc….and ignore the firing squads, torture, prisons, oppression, neighborhood spies, lack of food, drugs, prostitution, etc on and on…everyone gets a rice cooker
And what do the same progressives/communists promote in this country?……education and medical
Teach them to read…so you can control what they read/think
…control their medical…and you’ve got them

Reply to  Latitude
November 27, 2016 12:22 pm

Cuba Archive is dedicated to commemorating the people that Castro and his thug regime murdered during their 56-year and on-going reign of terror.
They feature pictures and biographies of the murdered. The preamble to their “Truth and Memory Project” says, “There is profound unawareness of the huge cost in lives of the Cuban Revolution. By gathering and telling the story of its victims, we hope that people and nations will understand the abhorrent nature of the Cuban regime and feel compelled to support the people of Cuba in attaining their rightful freedoms.” I’ve sent them support.
Castro’s 2001 statement to the Plenary Session of the 105th Conference of the Interparliamentary Union, in Havana, precedes the Truth and Memory preamble. He declares that no one in Cuba had ever been murdered or tortured. Just travel around Cuba and ask anyone.
I’m sure the secret police would be happy to lead the investigational tour.

MarkW
Reply to  Latitude
November 28, 2016 9:31 am

Cuban’s medical system only worked well for the elite and those tourists who could afford to pay cash.
For the Cuban people it was a disaster. Patients were advised to bring sheets with them, as the hospitals were constantly short of basic supplies.

Reply to  Latitude
November 28, 2016 3:39 pm

Latitude,
MarkW claims that “Cuban’s medical system only worked well for the elite.”
But as more details emerge of Castro’s final hours, the more we learn how badly it failed him in spite of all his power (or perhaps, ironically, because of it).
The old creep’s most trustworthy and Latin-America-literate obituary so far is at CN, highlights of which include:
_______________________________________
‘In an increasingly divided world, Fidel ruled for all Cubans—whoever they voted for’
Today, the island nation’s favorite son died doing what Cubans loved most: regaling them with an anecdote about his youthful adventures, which not only held a baseball stadium of working Cubans captive for three hours and counting, but seemed to be building up to a substantive point (something to do with either a new socialist ornithology or the end of the Studio System, according to those present).
Fidel’s penchant for dramatic mid-word silences (with which he regularly kept a crowd in suspense for 120 minutes or more) is thought to have delayed the diagnosis of death.
“At first we thought what everyone thought: Fidel is just pausing for effect,” said Dr. René Vallejo, one of the Revolutionary’s retinue of physicians, explaining why doctors had waited so long to approach the slumped-over figure.
“It was only after 7-and-a-half, 8 hours of this [reverent hush], with the first signs of rigor mortis, that we knew it was safe to interrupt.”

An epidemic of whooping and dancing—a normal reaction to bereavement in many cultures—spread outwards from Havana at the speed of rumor.
[…]
Party-controlled television stations have announced that the next 32 to 35 days of spontaneous popular solemnity will be overseen by a special “Party Planning Committee.”
Party organizers will release fireworks every night for the next 40 nights to remind Cubans to continue mourning.
Meanwhile […] residents of Miami, Florida are expected to keep reveling ’til dawn in sympathy with their cousins across the Gulf.

catweazle666
Reply to  Brad Keyes
November 28, 2016 4:16 pm

It is instructive to note that despite the Left’s fulsome praise of Cuba’s World class healthcare system, he had to import a Spanish surgeon to operate on his not-cancer.
Spanish Doctor: Fidel Castro Does Not Have Cancer
Published December 26, 2006 Associated Press
MADRID, Spain – A Spanish surgeon who flew to Cuba last week to help treat Fidel Castro on Tuesday denied reports that the Cuban leader was suffering from cancer and insisted that he was recovering slowly but progressively from a serious operation.
“While respecting confidentiality, I can tell you that President Castro is not suffering from any malignant sickness,” the Spanish doctor said, adding that he could not give precise details on the nature of his condition.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/2006/12/26/spanish-doctor-fidel-castro-does-not-have-cancer.html
Nor was that the first time he had to avail himself of medical expertise from a filthy capitalist state, apparently.
http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/fidel/castro-health.htm
http://www.haciendapub.com/articles/fidel-castros-medical-care-socialized-cuban-paradise

rogerthesurf
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
November 27, 2016 12:35 pm

“recognized his tremendous dedication and love for the Cuban people who had a deep and lasting affection for “el Comandante”.”
I have to say thats pushing things too far somewhat.
How is this for a suitable eulogy?.
” For these reasons, whilst many of us are far too decent to gloat the death of the man, we reserve the right to refuse mourning him as a national hero and work towards the day when we can burst champagne corks at the demise of his brutal legacy.”
Well – believe it or not this is part of a eulogy for Margaret Thatcher. http://www.scriptonitedaily.com/2013/04/08/the-alternative-eulogy-to-thatcher-dead-in-body-alive-in-spirit/
I think she was the best PM Britain had since Churchill and the only one ever to stand firm against the encroaching socialism.
It appears the communist element in Britain and around the world would disagree with me.
I guess this places Trudeau where he belongs 🙂
Cheers
Roger
http://www.thedemiseofchristchurch.com

CLIVE
November 26, 2016 10:49 pm

Thanks Eric. Hard to express our disgust with our PM Trudeau. We have the worst imaginable “leaders” in Canada and Alberta at the moment. Not good times here. We must survive 3 more years of their brutal socialist dictatorships and absurd and immoral climate regulations that could potentially (quite literally) kill Alberta.
Trudeau, I am sure, is the laughing stock of most of the world’s leaders including socialists. An embarrassment to ALL reasonable Canadians.
Clive
Alberta

commieBob
Reply to  CLIVE
November 27, 2016 1:35 am

We must survive 3 more years of their brutal socialist dictatorships

There are lots of people in Canada and America who lived in actual brutal socialist dictatorships. You should find some and talk to them. You need a sense of perspective.
As an example, consider the GDR. Nobody would dare express political opinions because the Stasi was probably using at least one member of your family as an informer.
Three years from now you get to vote and throw the bums out. Trudeau Jr. will go the same way as his father. We’re already hearing about Liberal fundraising scandals. Gott im Himmel, these people are stupid.

David
Reply to  commieBob
November 27, 2016 3:17 am

Canada just put an old woman in prison for disagreeing with the official holocaust story…
I think they understand brutal diktats well enough.

commieBob
Reply to  commieBob
November 27, 2016 5:39 am

David November 27, 2016 at 3:17 am

I assume you refer to Monika Schaefer. I can’t find a link that says she has actually been sentenced.
What I’m asking for is perspective. Things aren’t perfect. One of my former students attracted a lot of police attention because he was a radical. However, as far as I can tell, he was never actually charged and still walks the streets free. That wouldn’t have happened in the GDR or Soviet Union. He would have gone into something like Lubyanka. He would have been tortured. He would have been killed or sent to Siberia.
Calling Canada and America ‘brutal socialist dictatorships’ is just wrong. Calling them perfect would also be wrong. It’s all about perspective.

Reply to  commieBob
November 27, 2016 8:12 am

I agree with commieBob. “Brutal socialist dictatorships” is definately overstating the case. While these countries may be, or are, heading in that direction, there is little brutality at this point. Imprisioning people for saying things the government doesn’t like is wrong—public torture of these individuals is brutal. There is a difference, in spite of years of Progressives arguing that spanking and assault are the same thing. There are degrees and deliberately exaggerating does not help one’s cause.

Reply to  commieBob
November 28, 2016 8:05 am

I also live in Alberta. While the NDP are anti-Alberta, anti-personal freedoms, and is attempting to brain wash our children and bully parents, I think calling them ‘brutal socialist dictatorship’ is a little overboard.
PS, Dave: in Canada, our freedom of speech is much more limited than the US version. Hate speech is no allowed in Canada. The old woman may well have broken the law.

Reply to  commieBob
November 28, 2016 8:58 am

HI Jeff,
Per “Hate speech is not allowed in Canada” …
How does this work? I see some surprisingly nasty web comments on small dead animals and other Canadian sites; what does a person have to say to get the attention of the speech enforcers … is there a rule, a policy, or is it just that certain speech/commentary that gets enough hyped attention will be subject to enforcement action.

MarkW
Reply to  commieBob
November 28, 2016 9:34 am

Hate speech is always defined as any speech the government disagrees with.
She may have broken the law, but it was an immoral law.

Latitude
Reply to  CLIVE
November 27, 2016 6:36 am

..notice how the communists have re-branded themselves as liberals/progressives…
and gotten away with it
They are not liberals or progressives…they are communists/fascists
News media, politicians, ‘activists’, etc
They are all telling on themselves now….pay attention
First thing they do is create chaos

stevekeohane
Reply to  Latitude
November 27, 2016 6:59 am

I’ve seen a poster of Lenin with the red hammer and sickle and allegedly ‘progressive’ in Russian. I thought the ‘progressives’ began with Sanger and the ‘self-identified’ genetically elite. Eugenics and socialism/communism control of the ill-bred masses are the corner stones of the progressive movement and have been for over a century.
I’m not disagreeing with you, I just think the roots run deeper into the past.

markl
Reply to  Latitude
November 27, 2016 9:00 am

+1 They’ve already completed the ‘divide and conquer’ in America.

Juan Slayton
Reply to  Latitude
November 27, 2016 9:03 am

Morning, Steve,
It would be interesting to trace the origins and evolution of ‘progressive’ as a political term. I suspect it goes way back before Sanger’s day. For example, I recently came across a similar term in Bancroft’s History of Mexico (vol XI) (my bold)
112 MAXIMILIAN, EMPEROR OF MEXICO.
fostered by the clergy, and manifested partly in flam
ing circulars against the French and their adherents
or tools. 81 It also caused a split among the conserva
tives into progressionists and retrogressionists, the lat
ter joined by the devout, and by such men as Anievas,
assistant government secretary, who now resigned,
and later by Estrada, 32 but the former readily winning
over a host of republicans, owing to the liberal policy
pursued with regard to church affairs, leniency in con
fiscation, and other matters.

Juan Slayton
Reply to  Latitude
November 27, 2016 9:05 am

Make that Volume VI

Mike H
Reply to  CLIVE
November 27, 2016 9:12 am

With you Clive. What an absolute embarrassment to our country.
FYI, trying to help get those pipelines through to the West Coast. Unfortunately, the lower mainland is the San Fran of the north when it comes to faux environmental idiots and you obviously know about the dolt we have at 24 Sussex.

nc
Reply to  CLIVE
November 27, 2016 9:55 am

You forgot to Mention Ontario.

Tom Halla
November 26, 2016 11:02 pm

A person’s attitude towards Fidel Castro also seems to be an indication of what they think about the United States. As Fidel’s major acheivement since 1959 had been defiance of the US, anyone who thinks that is a good thing has a soft spot for him. He is also an indicator of the sheer hypocricy of the progressives, who claim to value human rights, but always seem to give Castro a pass.
The only thing Fidel Castro endorsing climate change is likely to do is reenforce Trumps dim view of the subject.

Bryan A
Reply to  Tom Halla
November 27, 2016 12:10 am

The ONLY reason Fidel Castro was a climate warrior was the barrels of Climate Reparation Cash he was salivating over receiving from his little buddy in the USA, Pres B.O.

TA
Reply to  Bryan A
November 27, 2016 6:13 am

That’s right, Bryan, it’s all about the money.

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  Tom Halla
November 27, 2016 7:35 am

So sayith: Tom Halla

A person’s attitude towards Fidel Castro also seems to be an indication of what they think about the United States.

To understand Castro’s Cuba one has to look back to the pre-1959 years when Cuba was a country of two (2) classes of citizens, ……. the very, very rich and politically powerful citizens …….. and the very, very poor and highly mistreated citizen “slaves” being forced to work for the rich elite.
And therein was the root cause that aided Castro’s overthrow of the highly corrupt Batista Dictatorship.
And when the very, very rich and politically powerful citizens REALIZED that Castro was going to “win” ……. they quickly grabbed all of their money and valuables and fled to Florida.
And the US politicians, primarily in Florida, quickly recognized those rich Cuban immigrants as a great source of “political” cash donations and thus welcomed them to Florida with praises and open arms.
And to keep those very, very rich Cuban immigrants happy, appeased and donating more cash money …… those elected US politicians had to disagree with and oppose Castro’s government.
And thus the reason that the United States government launched an unsuccessful attempt to remove Castro by assassination, economic blockade and counter-revolution, including the Bay of Pigs Invasion of 1961.
Sounds familiar, right? It quickly reminds one of Iraq, Libya, Egypt, Viet Nam, etc.
US Politicians et el wanted to dictate how Castro was to run his government, …… but Castro refused, ….. and therefore he had to be eliminated by any means possible.

Reply to  Samuel C Cogar
November 27, 2016 8:14 am

Revisionist history strikes again.

Udar
Reply to  Samuel C Cogar
November 27, 2016 9:06 am

If you think that people living in Little Havana are “very, very rich” you live in some weird alternate universe.
The universe where current Cuban system of 2 class of citizens – the ruling class that is very, very, powerful and everyone else who are nothing and live in squalor is somehow better than before…

Bear
Reply to  Samuel C Cogar
November 27, 2016 9:07 am

Revisionist? How about ignorant fantasy. Castro replaced a corrupt regime with a brutal dictatorship within months of achieving power.

hunter
Reply to  Samuel C Cogar
November 27, 2016 9:23 am

Lying lefty history…taught to this stooge no doubt in our public education system.

nc
Reply to  Samuel C Cogar
November 27, 2016 9:58 am

You forgot Castro, very very rich.

Michael Jankowski
Reply to  Samuel C Cogar
November 27, 2016 10:49 am

From PBS, hardly a conservative mouthpiece… http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/castro/peopleevents/e_precastro.html
“…Cuba’s capital, Havana, was a glittering and dynamic city. In the early part of the century the country’s economy, fueled by the sale of sugar to the United States, had grown dynamically. Cuba ranked fifth in the hemisphere in per capita income, third in life expectancy, second in per capita ownership of automobiles and telephones, first in the number of television sets per inhabitant. The literacy rate, 76%, was the fourth highest in Latin America. Cuba ranked 11th in the world in the number of doctors per capita. Many private clinics and hospitals provided services for the poor. Cuba’s income distribution compared favorably with that of other Latin American societies. A thriving middle class held the promise of prosperity and social mobility…”
There were lots of problems with racism and inequality, true…those seem to exist everywhere. The rich all fled? No. Castro’s revolution was supposed to instill a moderate and democratic government. It was supposed to be free of military leaders. Then one-by-one all of Castro’s promises to his supporters evaporated. You either supported his communist dictatorship or you went to jail.
The Bay of Pigs and any number of issues the US had with Cuba centered around communism and the Cold War. What’s next? You’re going to tell us that the Vietnam War was about getting political support from all of the “very, very rich” people who left Vietnam for the US?

Latitude
Reply to  Samuel C Cogar
November 27, 2016 1:10 pm

Sam, you are very very wrong…
..Michael, you are right
Prior to Castro….Cuba had a very large middle class

Reply to  Samuel C Cogar
November 27, 2016 1:40 pm

Samuel C Cogar November 27, 2016 at 7:35 am
I have nothing other than supposition here, but I’m wondering if there’s a deeper story that maybe someday a revisionist will uncover. My proposal is that Castro became somehow convenient to US politics and therefore remained. You could always get a vocal block of South FL. voters if you tried anything to normalize ties between the countries. Look at assassinations and coups that the CIA has initiated around the world. You couldn’t get one in a country 90 miles away with a huge number of exiles living in your own borders. 600+ assassination attempts are BS to me; I think your odds of survival get pretty slim (or your security forces are way way above average). Then there’s the oddest relationship between adversaries that I think I ever seen “Guantanamo Bay”. I think if Castro had ever been serious about closing the bay he could have found international support and simply offered the US start evacuating and we’re going to start mining the access points. I think the US became convenient to Castro. Quid Pro Quo.
I’m not offering any defence of Castro’s policies. I’m hoping that as you sow, shall you reap. All that I’ll add is the sow/reap applies to both sides.

Curious George
Reply to  Samuel C Cogar
November 27, 2016 2:42 pm

He was eliminated by natural causes, at the age of 90. Damn those American imperialists!

BCBill
Reply to  Samuel C Cogar
November 27, 2016 10:04 pm

Here are the places where the US has intervened militarily since 1900. How many of them have good governments now? What possible reason is there to think that American influence would have resulted in good government?
1900 China US forces intervene in several cities.
1901 Colombia/Panama Marines land.
1902 Colombia/Panama US forces land in Bocas de Toro
1903 Colombia/Panama With US backing, a group in northern Colombia declares independence as the state of Panama
1903 Guam Navy begins development in Apra Harbor of a permanent base installation.
1903 Honduras Marines go ashore at Puerto Cortez.
1903 Dominican Republic Marines land in Santo Domingo.
1904-1905 Korea Marines land and stay in Seoul.
1906-1909 Cuba Marines land. The US builds a major naval base at Guantanamo Bay.
1907 Nicaragua Troops seize major centers.
1907 Honduras Marines land and take up garrison in cities of Trujillo, Ceiba, Puerto Cortez, San Pedro, Laguna and Choloma.
1908 Panama Marines land and carry out operations.
1910 Nicaragua Marines land in Bluefields and Corinto.
1911 Honduras Marines intervene.
1911-1941 China The US builds up its military presence in the country to a force of 5000 troops and a fleet of 44 vessels patrolling China’s coast and rivers.
1912 Cuba US sends army troops into combat in Havana.
1912 Panama Army troops intervene.
1912 Honduras Marines land.
1912-1933 Nicaragua Marines intervene. A 20-year occupation of the country follows.
1913 Mexico Marines land at Ciaris Estero.
1914 Dominican Republic Naval forces engage in battles in the city of Santo Domingo.
1914 Mexico US forces seize and occupy Mexico’s major port city of Veracrus from April through November.
1915-1916 Mexico An expeditionary force of the US Army under Gen. John J. Pershing crosses the Texas border and penetrates several hundred miles into Mexican territory. Eventually reinforced to over 11,000 officers and men.
1914-1934 Haiti Troops land, aerial bombardment leading to a 19-year military occupation.
1916-1924 Dominican Republic Military intervention leading to 8-year occupation.
1917-1933 Cuba Landing of naval forces. Beginning of a 15-year occupation.
1918-1920 Panama Troops intervene, remain on “police duty” for over 2 years.
1918-1922 Russia Naval forces and army troops fight battles in several areas of the country during a five- year period.
1919 Yugoslavia Marines intervene in Dalmatia.
1919 Honduras Marines land.
1920 Guatemala Troops intervene.
1922 Turkey Marines engaged in operations in Smyrna (Izmir).
1922-1927 China Naval forces and troops deployed during 5-year period.
1924-1925 Honduras Troops land twice in two-year period.
1925 Panama Marines land and engage in operations.
1927-1934 China Marines and naval forces stationed throughout the country.
1932 El Salvador Naval forces intervene.
1933 Cuba Naval forces deployed.
1934 China Marines land in Foochow.
1946 Iran Troops deployed in northern province.
1946-1949 China Major US army presence of about 100,000 troops, fighting, training and advising local combatants.
1947-1949 Greece US forces wage a 3-year counterinsurgency campaign.
1948 Italy Heavy CIA involvement in national elections.
1948-1954 Philippines Commando operations, “secret” CIA war.
1950-1953 Korea Major forces engaged in war in Korean peninsula.
1953 Iran CIA overthrows government of Prime Minister Mohammed Mossadegh. Read More
1954 Vietnam Financial and materiel support for colonial French military operations, leads eventually to direct US military involvement.
1954 Guatemala CIA overthrows the government of President Jacobo Arbenz Guzman.
1958 Lebanon US marines and army units totaling 14,000 land.
1958 Panama Clashes between US forces in Canal Zone and local citizens.
1959 Haiti Marines land.
1960 Congo CIA-backed overthrow and assassination of Prime Minister Patrice Lumumba.
1960-1964 Vietnam Gradual introduction of military advisors and special forces.
1961 Cuba CIA-backed Bay of Pigs invasion.
1962 Cuba Nuclear threat and naval blockade.
1962 Laos CIA-backed military coup.
1963 Ecuador CIA backs military overthrow of President Jose Maria Valesco Ibarra.
1964 Panama Clashes between US forces in Canal Zone and local citizens.
1964 Brazil CIA-backed military coup overthrows the government of Joao Goulart and Gen. Castello Branco takes power. Read More
1965-1975 Vietnam Large commitment of military forces, including air, naval and ground units numbering up to 500,000+ troops. Full-scale war, lasting for ten years.
1965 Indonesia CIA-backed army coup overthrows President Sukarno and brings Gen. Suharto to power.
1965 Congo CIA backed military coup overthrows President Joseph Kasavubu and brings Joseph Mobutu to power.
1965 Dominican Republic 23,000 troops land.
1965-1973 Laos Bombing campaign begin, lasting eight years.
1966 Ghana CIA-backed military coup ousts President Kwame Nkrumah.
1966-1967 Guatemala Extensive counter-insurgency operation.
1969-1975 Cambodia CIA supports military coup against Prince Sihanouk, bringing Lon Nol to power. Intensive bombing for seven years along border with Vietnam.
1970 Oman Counter-insurgency operation, including coordination with Iranian marine invasion.
1971-1973 Laos Invasion by US and South Vietnames forces.
1973 Chile CIA-backed military coup ousts government of President Salvador Allende. Gen. Augusto Pinochet comes to power.
1975 Cambodia Marines land, engage in combat with government forces.
1976-1992 Angola Military and CIA operations.
1980 Iran Special operations units land in Iranian desert. Helicopter malfunction leads to aborting of planned raid.
1981 Libya Naval jets shoot down two Libyan jets in maneuvers over the Mediterranean.
1981-1992 El Salvador CIA and special forces begin a long counterinsurgency campaign.
1981-1990 Nicaragua CIA directs exile “Contra” operations. US air units drop sea mines in harbors.
1982-1984 Lebanon Marines land and naval forces fire on local combatants.
1983 Grenada Military forces invade Grenada.
1983-1989 Honduras Large program of military assistance aimed at conflict in Nicaragua.
1984 Iran Two Iranian jets shot down over the Persian Gulf.
1986 Libya US aircraft bomb the cities of Tripoli and Benghazi, including direct strikes at the official residence of President Muamar al Qadaffi.
1986 Bolivia Special Forces units engage in counter-insurgency.
1987-1988 Iran Naval forces block Iranian shipping. Civilian airliner shot down by missile cruiser.
1989 Libya Naval aircraft shoot down two Libyan jets over Gulf of Sidra.
1989 Philippines CIA and Special Forces involved in counterinsurgency.
1989-1990 Panama 27,000 troops as well as naval and air power used to overthrow government of President Noriega.
1990 Liberia Troops deployed.
1990-1991 Iraq Major military operation, including naval blockade, air strikes; large number of troops attack Iraqi forces in occupied Kuwait.
1991-2003 Iraq Control of Iraqi airspace in north and south of the country with periodic attacks on air and ground targets.
1991 Haiti CIA-backed military coup ousts President Jean-Bertrand Aristide.
1992-1994 Somalia Special operations forces intervene.
1992-1994 Yugoslavia Major role in NATO blockade of Serbia and Montenegro.
1993-1995 Bosnia Active military involvement with air and ground forces.
1994-1996 Haiti Troops depose military rulers and restore President Jean-Bertrand Aristide to office.
1995 Croatia Krajina Serb airfields attacked.
1996-1997 Zaire (Congo) Marines involved in operations in eastern region of the country.
1997 Liberia Troops deployed.
1998 Sudan Air strikes destroy country’s major pharmaceutical plant.
1998 Afghanistan Attack on targets in the country.
1998 Iraq Four days of intensive air and missile strikes.
1999 Yugoslavia Major involvement in NATO air strikes.
2001 Macedonia NATO troops shift and partially disarm Albanian rebels.
2001 Afghanistan Air attacks and ground operations oust Taliban government and install a new regime.
2003 Iraq Invasion with large ground, air and naval forces ousts government of Saddam Hussein and establishes new government.
2003-present Iraq Occupation force of 150,000 troops in protracted counter-insurgency war
2004 Haiti Marines land. CIA-backed forces overthrow President Jean-Bertrand Aristide.

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  Samuel C Cogar
November 28, 2016 6:33 am

Bear – November 27, 2016 at 9:07 am

Revisionist? How about ignorant fantasy. Castro replaced a corrupt regime with a brutal dictatorship within months of achieving power.

Bear, will you be claiming the same thing about Donald Trump, ……. come next April or May, 2017?

Reply to  Samuel C Cogar
November 28, 2016 8:16 am

Samuel: while I tend to agree with your narrative, it is an incomplete narrative. While I agree that Batista was a highly corrupt Dictatorship, you failed to mention Castro’s brutality. Quite reminiscent of Lenin’s RED Terror.

MarkW
Reply to  Samuel C Cogar
November 28, 2016 9:37 am

I see we have another victim of socialist indoctrination.
First off, yes there were rich people and poor people in Cuba prior to Castro. However it wasn’t worse than most other countries in the world.
As to your absurd claim that all of those who fled Castro were super rich. Reality and history both refute you. Not that you care.,
As to your attempt to tie Cuba to Iraq et. al. That’s just your paranoia and utter ignorance rearing its pathetic little head again.

MarkW
Reply to  Samuel C Cogar
November 28, 2016 9:41 am

It really is fascinating how so many people believe that everything that bad that happens must be the fault of the US.

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  Samuel C Cogar
November 29, 2016 6:37 am

MarkW – November 28, 2016 at 9:37 am

As to your absurd claim that all of those who fled Castro were super rich. Reality and history both refute you. Not that you care.,

MarkW, one of the things that I really care about ……… and which also really pisses me off and I become highly irritated with those persons who are devious, dishonest, disingenuous liars and/or claimers of “untruths” for the sole purpose of “covering their own asses” for their touted stupidity on subjects they want to fool people into thinking they are knowledgeable of.
Mark, that was a dastardly intentional lie on your part ……. when you accused me of “ claiming that all of those who fled Castro were super rich ”.
Mark, here is EXACTKLY what I posted, to wit:
And when the very, very rich and politically powerful citizens REALIZED that Castro was going to “win” ……. they quickly grabbed all of their money and valuables and fled to Florida.
Thus it was a dastardly intentional lie you uttered …… that surely made you feel better in knowing that it would probably harm my creditability and get you some hi-fives and rah-rahs from your likeminded friends.
Iffen the US hadn’t tried to KILL Castro immediately after Batista and his super rich friends vacated Cuba …….. then US relations with Cuba would have been 100% different …….. and Cuba would be supplying 90+% of the sugar for US consumption.

kolnai
Reply to  Samuel C Cogar
December 1, 2016 5:40 am

Hardly ‘revisionist’ – simply the usual teeth grinding quackspeak of the commies and their acolytes in power in the West.
Real revisionist history would have to take account of a few facts. Firstly, that in those days, Cubans travelled widely, especially to the US, where they outspent American visitors going to Cuba. So, freedom is one and indivisible, for when the rich lost their rights, so did the poor.
Secondly, despite the inequality and corruption, industry and employment was in a heck of a better state than today, when it is non-existent. This is because rich people mainly do not leave the money in the bank to rot. They spend it on goods and services provided by the poor. We see what happened in Cuba when this this function was lost .
Finally, it is simply beyond any belief that 20% of a country’s population fled because they were rich (the latest twist in this story is that ‘they were all criminals’). O, of course! If in any country, anywhere,2% of its people flee, it’s a minor but serious catastrophe. But 20%!!? Good grief!
Do me a favour Sam – put the kettle on and have a nice cup of tea, there’s a good lad. And take one of these, it’ll calm you down…And throw the Guevera t-shirt in the bin!

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  Samuel C Cogar
December 2, 2016 6:43 am

So sayith: kolnai – December 1, 2016 at 5:40 am

Secondly, despite the inequality and corruption, industry and employment was in a heck of a better state than today, when it is non-existent.

So what are you saying, kolnai, …… that the poor Cuban citizens were way better off when they were subsisting on a “70% starvation diet and no health care or education” ……. than they are now with their subsisting on a “75% starvation diet and free health care and education”?
Also sayith: kolnai

This is because rich people mainly do not leave the money in the bank to rot. They spend it on goods and services provided by the poor. We see what happened in Cuba when this this function was lost.

Yup we did, kolnai, …… and that “function” was immediately lost or STOPPED, ….. and not because all the filthy rich Cubans fled the island with all their “chests of money”, …….. but because the US Federal government IMMEDIATELY declared an embargo on all goods, products and money transfers to or from or between the US and Cuba ….. and also instituted a “travel ban” preventing any and all US citizens from going to Cuba to spend loads of cash money on Cuban cigars and lavish “tropical vacations”.
It was one hell of a lot cheaper for American tourists to enjoy a “2-week vacation” on/at the Cuban beach resorts than it was for them to vacation on the US east coast or the Gulf coast.
“YUP”, it was a lot CHEAPER for American tourists ……. and a lot RICHER for the Cuban citizens.
But the US politicians, the sugar cartel in south Florida and the US coastal resort owners sure as hell didn’t care about anything except their “funded interests” ……. and they paid dearly to insure their “interest” wasn’t terminated.
GEEEZUS, most anyone in the US could be arrested if caught with Cuban cigars.

Marcus
November 26, 2016 11:16 pm

“The Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau, today issued the following statement on the death of former Cuban President Fidel Castro:
“It is with deep sorrow that I learned today of the death of Cuba’s longest serving President.”…..
Longest living TYRANT maybe….? I am so embarrassed to be living in Canada right now…
I am at a loss for words…All I can think of is stuff that would get me banned again ! Time to move back to the U.S……..

Reply to  Marcus
November 26, 2016 11:33 pm

Marcus: Take a holiday in Cuba first before all our American friends are allowed to go with us in the near future. 😉
I need a break from Trudeau Junior and the NDP Notely Crew in Alberta.

David Ball
Reply to  canabianblog
November 26, 2016 11:57 pm

In Canada, there is an obvious difference in yardsticks by which Liberals and Conservatives are measured,
The collective face palm of Canadians registered on the Richter scale on this latest of a long list of faux pas from our designed-by-committee Prime Minister.

GAV
Reply to  canabianblog
November 27, 2016 1:14 am

Notely?
The real idiot tyrant is Wynne.

Cheryl
Reply to  Marcus
November 27, 2016 12:14 am

Castro was a POS in the 60’s and remains one at his death. Junior has no clue.

MarkW
Reply to  Cheryl
November 28, 2016 9:42 am

He said he was going to implement communism. For those on the left this excuses everything.

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  Cheryl
December 2, 2016 6:49 am

MarkW, ….. was that before or after …… the US clamped an embargo and travel ban on Cuba?

John Robertson
November 26, 2016 11:37 pm

Got to love our Hair Apparent.
Obama North.
More evidence one can’t cure stupid.
Hopefully this pretty vacant excuse for a “leader” and his handlers will do for Canadian Liberals what Obama has done for the Democratic Party.
Just as with the concerned ones, weeping and gnashing their teeth over CAGW/CC, the current Prime Minister is impossible to parody.
In his own words, “The budget will balance itself.”
There is a very good chance Western Canada will separate by the time these fools are done saving us from Climate Change and saving us from producing anything of value as well.
Fake News is exemplified by our CBC.
After all these years of their falsehoods and omissions, I did not know there was any other kind of news.

Marcus
Reply to  John Robertson
November 27, 2016 4:42 am

..I find it hard to believe that any intelligent life form, living North of the American border, would actually want it to get colder..! …… N.U.T.S.

Reply to  Marcus
November 27, 2016 8:17 am

I find it hard to believe any intelligent life form living North of the American border (or anywhere else) would actually believe humans have any control over the weather (and by extension, climate—the average of weather).

Pop Piasa
Reply to  Marcus
November 27, 2016 9:35 am

Me too R.C., you’d have to selectively ignore the evidence that disproves Human culpability and focus tightly on the media-fed doom-spin. It also helps to have a pious faith in in anti-humanism and a condescending righteousness that accompanies being in “the consensus”.

Brett Keane
Reply to  Marcus
November 27, 2016 5:15 pm

@Marcus
November 27, 2016 at 4:42 am: It is the ‘intelligent’ bit that is the problem, as in idiot savant….

MarkW
Reply to  Marcus
November 28, 2016 9:43 am

Idiot Savant implies that there is something they are good at.

TA
Reply to  John Robertson
November 27, 2016 6:16 am

“Hopefully this pretty vacant excuse for a “leader” and his handlers will do for Canadian Liberals what Obama has done for the Democratic Party.”
Let’s hope you are right. The socialists are killing their nations.

MarkG
Reply to  TA
November 27, 2016 10:53 am

Hey, they knew he was a Liberal when they elected him.
And Harper was literally Hitler, don’t ya know?
Look on the bright side. With Trump pushing a ‘buy American’ policy, Canada will have to find a way to build a real economy that’s not just a cheap manufacturing base for American companies. We won’t do that with Liberals in power.

Russell R.
November 26, 2016 11:53 pm

May his Judgement be commensurate with the pain and suffering inflicted on his victims, and their families.

TA
Reply to  Russell R.
November 27, 2016 6:18 am

Yes, may Castro receive in the afterlife exactly what he gave in life. It can’t get much fairer than that. He deserves to get what he gave. Everyone deserves to get what they gave.

Pop Piasa
Reply to  TA
November 27, 2016 10:16 am

I’m getting a mental picture of JFK and Bobby standing on the side of the chasm, smiling and waving as Fidel falls past them.

MarkW
Reply to  TA
November 28, 2016 9:44 am

I would support a law that when murderers are executed, they should die as their victims died.

Phillip Bratby
November 26, 2016 11:58 pm

Obama: “History will record and judge the enormous impact of this singular character.” Estimates of victims of his brutal reign of terror range from 10,000 to 100,000, including 5,600 Cubans in front of firing squads and another 1,200 in “extrajudicial assassinations.” See http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB113590852154334404

charles nelson
November 27, 2016 12:04 am

I’ll see your Fidel Castro and raise you a Papa Doc Duvalier!

andy in epsom
Reply to  Eric Worrall
November 27, 2016 3:16 am

Not sure why you are trying to rope Che Guevara into this. He fought in a civil war against a puppet dictator in a country dominated by the US Mafia. Once the war was over he left. Never forget it was the fact that America used cuna as a playground that led to all the problems in the first place.Castro was a bastard but what was going on before was even worse and a classic example of modern slavery.

Marcus
Reply to  Eric Worrall
November 27, 2016 4:47 am

..Andy in La La Land……..”Che Guevara was an international terrorist and mass murderer.”
http://www.therealcuba.com/?page_id=32

ClimateOtter
Reply to  Eric Worrall
November 27, 2016 4:50 am

Andy in Epsom~ yeah, we could tell by the way Che murdered nearly 4000 people personally, and over 23,000 total in cahoots with other ‘freedom’ fighters.

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  Eric Worrall
November 27, 2016 8:17 am

One has to ask, …… is both Eric and Marcus in La La Land, ……. given the implication they both preferred the Batista Dictatorship ……. rather than the Castro regime.
To wit:

Fulgencio Batista Zaldívar – After finishing his term he lived in Florida, returning to Cuba to run for president in 1952. Facing certain electoral defeat, he led a military coup that preempted the election.
Back in power, Batista suspended the 1940 Constitution and revoked most political liberties, including the right to strike. He then aligned with the wealthiest landowners who owned the largest sugar plantations, and presided over a stagnating economy that widened the gap between rich and poor Cubans.
Batista’s increasingly corrupt and repressive government then began to systematically profit from the exploitation of Cuba’s commercial interests, by negotiating lucrative relationships with the American Mafia, who controlled the drug, gambling, and prostitution businesses in Havana, and with large US-based multinationals who were awarded lucrative contracts
Read more https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulgencio_Batista

Before the PC and Internet …… you pretty much had to believe whatever the Politicians and News Media reported …… and they NEVER ever reported anything bad about Batista or his corrupt and repressive government.

Udar
Reply to  Eric Worrall
November 27, 2016 9:12 am

Samuel C Cogar – Nobody here excuses previous dictator. But Castro was even worse evil than Batista. And you are absolving him of murder and tyranny he perpetrated on his people for almost 60 years.

wws
Reply to  Eric Worrall
November 27, 2016 12:05 pm

Che Guevara was a “resistance fighter” in the same way that Charles Manson was a Social Justice Warrior.

Curious George
Reply to  Eric Worrall
November 27, 2016 2:49 pm

Regarding Charles Manson: “is”, not “was”.

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  Eric Worrall
November 28, 2016 4:16 am

Udar – November 27, 2016 at 9:12 am

Samuel C Cogar – Nobody here excuses previous dictator.

Udar, you sure as hell are touting excuses for Batista’s dastardly deeds he perpetrated upon the poor people of Cuba.
Udar also sayith:

But Castro was even worse evil than Batista.

And just how in hell would you know? Were you taught that in the US schools? Were you brainwashed into believing it by your RICH Cuban elite parents or family members that had to get the hell out of Cuba before Castro arrested them? Or did all the BS agitprop being touted by the US State Department and money-hungry politicians convince you that Castro was a really bad guy?
Maybe you believe that Fidel Castro and Donald Trump are “like two peas in pod”.
Udar also sayith:

And you are absolving him of murder and tyranny he perpetrated on his people for almost 60 years.

So what, Udar, ……. as long as there were, was, is, people who were intent on murdering Castro and/or perpetrating acts of tyranny against the Cuban government then Castro had a 100% God given right to “respond inkind”.
Udar, you and your like-minded friends are absolving the US Government, …. dozens n’ dozens of elected members of the US Congress, ……. dozens n’ dozens of elected Florida Legislators and Governors, ……. the sugar cartel on the US Gulf Coast, …… tens of thousands of Cubans in South Florida & elsewhere …… and various other US corporate entities ….. of attempted murder, tyranny, armed invasions, boycotts, embargos, etc., etc., against the Cuban government for the past 60 years.
Udar, the really, really, really poor Cuban people of yesteryear …… now enjoy FREE healthcare, FREE college education and don’t have to work as prostitutes in the hotels and on the streets ……. or as slaves in the rich elite households or in the sugarcane fields.
It’s probably not as good of life as you are living ……. but it sure as hell is a lot better than it once was in Cuba.

Udar
Reply to  Eric Worrall
November 28, 2016 8:02 am

Samuel Cogar bloviated things like :And just how in hell would you know? Were you taught that in the US schools? Were you brainwashed into believing it by your RICH Cuban elite parents or family members that had to get the hell out of Cuba before Castro arrested them? Or did all the BS agitprop being touted by the US State Department and money-hungry politicians convince you that Castro was a really bad guy?
I was taught about Castro in school in former USSR. So, I’m sorry to say, I was being brainwashed, but in completely different direction than you think. Fortunately, it didn’t stick. I know he was really bad guy, because I learned about it from his friends.
Now, the rest of your incredibly incoherent screed is essentially that it’s USA fault for Castro’s brutal repressions of his own people. I got it. You really, really like the guy. You really really hate USA. But facts are the facts – he was a dictator. May he rot in hell for eternity.
And about his vaunted free healthcare – I know very well what free healthcare means in socialist countries. Pray you are not on recieving end of that “free” healthcare when you get really sick.

Udar
Reply to  Eric Worrall
November 28, 2016 8:29 am

One more thing, Mr. Cogar, you said that “Udar, you sure as hell are touting excuses for Batista’s dastardly deeds he perpetrated upon the poor people of Cuba.
Please show me where I did. Give me a quote where I said anything good about Batista. I am very serious on this, either put up or shut up.

MarkW
Reply to  Eric Worrall
November 28, 2016 10:04 am

Samuel, that’s a pretty pathetic debate technique. To claim that unless one supports one side, that means you support the other.
Regardless, the facts show that Cubans under Batista were much, much better off than they were after Castro took over.

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  Eric Worrall
November 29, 2016 5:45 am

Udar – November 28, 2016 at 8:02 am

And about his vaunted free healthcare – I know very well what free healthcare means in socialist countries. Pray you are not on recieving end of that “free” healthcare when you get really sick.

Udar, sorry to say, but, …… your former USSR “brainwashing” is still intact and it manifests itself in your posted commentary ……. which in itself pretty much explains your utter ignorance of the Cuban Healthcare System which Castro is/was responsible for.
“DUH”, even the WHO and the Huffington Post disagrees with your silly ranting n’ raving, to wit:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/salim-lamrani/cubas-health-care-system-_b_5649968.html

Udar
Reply to  Eric Worrall
November 29, 2016 6:59 am

Samuel Cogar says: “dar, sorry to say, but, …… your former USSR “brainwashing” is still intact
So Samuel, it is your opinion that I believe that Castro is great man? Do you even know what USSR means? Or meaning of word “brainwashing”? Based on your completely incoherent ramblings, I’m not sure you know what any of those words are. I suggest investing in dictionary.
Also you say : “even the WHO and the Huffington Post disagrees with your silly ranting n’ raving
Yes. Which is why Castro chose to use foreign doctors to attend to him – I guess that “excellent” system was not excellent enough for El Commandante.
I also noticed that you’ve chosen not to respond to my other question -here it is again:
you said that “Udar, you sure as hell are touting excuses for Batista’s dastardly deeds he perpetrated upon the poor people of Cuba.”
Please show me where I did. Give me a quote where I said anything good about Batista. I am very serious on this, either put up or shut up.

Because you accuse me of something I didn’t do and then refused to address that, I can only have one conclusion – You, Sir, are a lier. Either apologize for your lie or prove me wrong.

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  Eric Worrall
November 30, 2016 4:44 am

Udar – November 29, 2016 at 6:59 am

So Samuel, it is your opinion that I believe that Castro is great man?

Udar, just what was it that prompted you to post such a stupid assed statement as the above verbiage is?
You probably wouldn’t tell me even iffen you knew …… so I will just attribute your silly statement to you lefty liberal socialist mindset.
Udar, I know what you have been misnurtured/miseducated [brainwashed] into believe is actual, factual historical events ……. but “your believing that Castro is/was a great man” is not one of your beliefs …….. unless you want to admit that all of your previous postings on his subject are “untruths”.
Udar claimith:

Yes. Which is why Castro chose to use foreign doctors to attend to him – I guess that “excellent” system was not excellent enough for El Commandante.

Udar, were any of those foreign doctors that Castro chose to attend to him …… citizens of the United States? …………… If not, why not, …… Udar, ……. please explain.
Udar also claimith:

I also noticed that you’ve chosen not to respond to my other question -here it is again:
you said that “Udar, you sure as hell are touting excuses for Batista’s dastardly deeds he perpetrated upon the poor people of Cuba.
Please show me where I did. Give me a quote where I said anything good about Batista. I am very serious on this, either put up or shut up.

GEEEEZUS, …. Udar, ……. your feigning of “ignorance n’ stupidity” is “a dog that won’t hunt”. Your posted “Batista excuse” should be obvious to most any learning-disabled person,
Here is your “Batista excuse” that you posted, to wit:

Udar – November 27, 2016 at 9:12 am
Samuel C Cogar – Nobody here excuses previous dictator. But Castro was even worse evil than Batista.

You claimed therein that you WERE NOT posting an “excuse” for Batista’s dastardly deeds, ……… BUT YOU SURE AS HELL DID ……… when you sided with Batista by claiming he was “a lesser evil than Castro”.
Just like a parent making excuses for the criminal acts of their children ….. by claiming that “My little Johnny is not as bad as the kid that lives down the street”.
Udar also saidith in an above posting:

And you are absolving him (Castro) of murder and tyranny he perpetrated on his people for almost 60 years.

So what, Udar, me pretty damn sure that you are absolving the US government of murder and tyranny that it has perpetrated on its people (citizens) (murders, robbers, rapists, embezzlers, traitors, terrorists, etc., etc.) for the past 200+ years.
Udar, JUST WHY IN HELL are you “badmouthing” Castro for doing the same exact thing that ever country on the face of this earth is GUILTY OF the same actions?
It tiz your kind that DEMANDS that General Petraeus be locked-up in prison …… and that Hillary Clinton be left alone to run free on the streets of America.

Udar
Reply to  Eric Worrall
December 1, 2016 4:58 pm

Mr. Cogar,
At this point I’m pretty sure you have real issues with reading comprehension.
After I told you that I learned of Castro in USSR, you told me that “your former USSR “brainwashing” is still intact”.
Now, since Castro was USSR’s best friend, the only brainwashing that could have stuck was that he was a great man. Now, do you really think I believe that? Do you really think I have, as you say “lefty liberal socialist mindset.”?
Based on your completely puzzled reaction, you have no idea what USSR is. Or what “brainwashing” suppose to do. I suggest to buy a dictionary, it could be a great investment.
Of course, you believing that I am “lefty liberal socialist” and hate Castro at the same time can only mean that you have no idea what “lefty liberal socialist” means. Or who Castro was (a hint – he was a communist – which is a synonym of lefty liberal socialist).
And that brings us to one final thing – your really weird belief that by my saying that “Castro was even worse evil than Batista”, I somehow “sided with Batista”.
I don’t think you understand what “sided” means either. Or “Batista”. Or “with”
In conclusion, I think that you reside in insane asylum and your nurse should really cut down on your internet access. I don’t think it’s good for your well-being.

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  Eric Worrall
December 2, 2016 5:32 am

Udar – December 1, 2016 at 4:58 pm

Now, since Castro was USSR’s best friend,

Still “talking trash”, ……. huh, ….. Udar?
GETTA CLUE, ….. Udar ….. the USSR’s never had any “best friend” or “best friends”.
When Germany (Hitler) reneged on their pre-WWII agreement the United Soviet Socialist Republic (USSR) never again trusted any country or its leaders. Two (2) times was two too many.
Udar, educate yourself on “why you are what you are” by reading this published commentary …… that is titled “A View of How the Human Mind Works” ……. because it is quite obvious that you are completely ignorant of the evolutionary biological fact that …… “You are what your environment nurtured you to be”.
And quit mimicking all of those “cutie comments” that you and your like-minded peers think are utterly important to any and all public discourse.

Udar
Reply to  Eric Worrall
December 2, 2016 8:11 am

Cogar –
Weird how human mind works. You, after hitting Wikipedia and studying up on former Soviet Union, decided to share your wisdom with us, specifically that “USSR’s never had any “best friend” or “best friends”.
Which is completely irrelevant to the topic that I was referring to – i.e. that Castro was thought to be great man in Soviet schools, and which you apparently unaware of.
I understand that it is critical to your weird worldview to make this irrelevant comment, because you can not make relevant one.
Just quit it, will you? Take some nice medicine, stay away from computer and go to safe place. You’ll feel so much better…

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  Eric Worrall
December 3, 2016 4:56 am

Cogar –
Weird how human mind works.

Udar, ….. iffen you had “clicked-on” that hyperlink and read the commentary then you would no longer be parroting such asinine comments.
Only a highly miseducated person would refer to a “biological self-programming supercomputer” as being something weird.
Of all of the things that you have lost, …… you surely must miss your mind the most.

Bryan A
Reply to  charles nelson
November 27, 2016 12:13 am

I’ll see your Papa Doc and raise you a Mousy Dong

Pop Piasa
Reply to  Bryan A
November 27, 2016 10:24 am

You had to go and mention the Chairman…

MarkW
Reply to  charles nelson
November 28, 2016 9:45 am

Papa Doc was just a plain old fashioned dictator. He never pretended to be doing it for “the people”.

Robert from oz
November 27, 2016 12:09 am

All of the eulogies could be written by msm as headlines , brilliant just brilliant .

November 27, 2016 12:36 am

The climate change issue is irrelevant in Cuban politics.
The statement above:
“Some Cuban exiles in Miami, who seem hung up on how many of their relatives and friends were brutalised and murdered by Castro and his thugs, are distracting attention away from Castro’s climate warrior legacy.”
is insensitive and almost insulting, even if it’s intended as sarcasm.
By the way, those of us who oppose the Castro family dictatorship aren’t only “in Miami”. We have three Senators and four congressmen in Washington. My oldest grandson is with the USA Army in South Korea, my sister lives in Boston, I have cousins who live in and own a piece of a new car dealership in Atlanta, my youngest daughter is a therapist in the Dallas area, and so on and so forth.

Reply to  Eric Worrall
November 27, 2016 9:04 am

In several regime changes, America has killed 250,000 CIVILIANS, wounded ~ two million, displaced 5 million and destroyed several countries – but that doesn’t count?

Reply to  Eric Worrall
November 28, 2016 6:59 am

Hey Eric,
The party is still going on. C’mon down! Folks are gathering at all hours in front of Versailles on Calle Ocho, pounding pots and pans and dancing to salsa music. While Havana has nine days of mourning we are having nine days of celebration.
Tonight, Fidel is smoking a turd in Hell.

MarkW
Reply to  Eric Worrall
November 28, 2016 9:47 am

It really is fascinating how socialists actually seem to believe the lies that they tell each other.
Adrian, every one of those claims has been disproven. Not that you care.

climatereason
Editor
Reply to  fernandoleanme
November 27, 2016 1:59 am

sarcasm and satire often get the point over better than straight reporting. Eric was obviously mocking Castro and that he gets a free pass from the liberal elite because of his global warming credentials
tonyb

Tom in Florida
Reply to  climatereason
November 27, 2016 6:47 am

Credentials? He don’t need no stinkin credentials.

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  fernandoleanme
November 27, 2016 8:47 am

By the way, those of us who oppose the Castro family dictatorship aren’t only “in Miami”.
Fernandoleanme, given the fact that you “oppose the Castro family dictatorship” …… then would it be correct to say that you and yours “totally agreed with the Batista family dictatorship”?
We have three Senators and four congressmen in Washington.
So tell me, just why in the world would your kinfolk, ….. three (3) Senators and four (4) Congressmen, …… hate Castro and love Batista? It’s gotta be the “money”, right, ….. because Castro or Cuba has no direct effect on Congressional actions that affect the US populace.

Bob boder
Reply to  Samuel C Cogar
November 27, 2016 9:02 am

Samuel
Are you saying Castro was good because Batista was bad, doesn’t sound like you.

Tom Halla
Reply to  Samuel C Cogar
November 27, 2016 9:31 am

Mr Cogar–you have read too much pro-Castro spin. Even the center-left New York Times, in Sunday’s obit of Fidel, admitted that pre-Castro that Cuba had the largest middle class in Latin America. There are several million Cuban exiles in the US, out of a population of less than 20 million. I really, really doubt that the ruling class was that numerous.
Pre-Fidel Cuba was a political mess, but so was most of Latin America, and that situation has existed in most countries since the Spanish left. One of my grandfathers was the son of a political refugee from Mexico over a hundred years ago (his father’s side lost), and Mexico is still a mess politically.

wws
Reply to  Samuel C Cogar
November 27, 2016 12:13 pm

Samuel, you show the black/white thinking typical of those who have severe personality disorders and other mental illnesses. To say that someone who opposed Castro must have supported Batista is idiotic. Batista was bad (the vast majority of people alive today were not even alive when he was in power, btw) Castro was worse!
What made Castro so bad is that he was JUST ANOTHER BATISTA. How can that never have occurred to you???

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  Samuel C Cogar
November 28, 2016 5:16 am

Bob boder

Samuel
Are you saying Castro was good because Batista was bad, doesn’t sound like you.

Bob, don’t be “talking trash” to me, OK.
Castro set out to do “a good thing”, ……. to depose Batista and his utterly corrupt Dictatorship and to FREE the Cuban populace of a life of turmoil, hardships and political persecution. But what Castro quickly found out was that the US government, its elected politicians, corporate interests, US gangsters and the Cuban rich n’ powerful “dearly loved” the Batista regime and IMMEDIATELY set out to murder, kill and or depose Castro …… and re-instate Batista (or an equivalent) as Dictator of Cuba. And that really, really, really, REALLY pissed-off Castro ……. and the rest is history.

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  Samuel C Cogar
November 28, 2016 6:07 am

Tom Halla – November 27, 2016 at 9:31 am

Mr Cogar–you have read too much pro-Castro spin. Even the center-left New York Times, in Sunday’s obit of Fidel

Mr. Halla, I was most probably in my mid 30’s before I ever seen a copy of the New York Times newspaper, let alone read an article published in one.
On the contrary, I have been reading about Castro and Cuba ever since the mid-1950’s when I was in High School and delivering Newspapers to earn spending money. And in September 1958 I began my Freshman year of College and I was still reading about Castro, Cuba and the Revolution. And in those early days there was very little to none ….. either pro or anti “Castro spin” being publishes in local or regionl newspapers.
Also sayith: Tom Halla

, admitted that pre-Castro that Cuba had the largest middle class in Latin America. There are several million Cuban exiles in the US, out of a population of less than 20 million.

NO FECES, ….. Tom H, ……… but that is now, …. the present. …… 2016, ……. but not in 1957, 1958, 1959 or 1960.
Also sayith: Tom Halla

I really, really doubt that the ruling class was that numerous.

Mr. Tom, …… please tell us, ….. just how big does the “ruling class” hafta be ….. to maintain control of the people. Which Russian was it that said …… “one (1) man with a gun can control one hundred (100) men without guns”?
Here Tom, some non-NYT enlightenments for you to ponder over, to wit:

Since 1959, Cubans have been engaged in one of the most significant migrations, proportionally, in modern times. Over eight percent (8%) of the island’s population has gone into exile with around 700,000 coming to the U.S. prior to 1980 in several phases.
Between January 1, 1959 and the October 22, 1962 Missile Crisis, 248,070 migrated to the United States. In early 1959 members of the political and military elite fled, followed by members of the propertied and professional sectors, who by 1961 comprised 45 percent of the registrants with the Cuban Refugee Program. It soon became far more than an exodus of the elite for by the end of the first phase, over 50 percent of the Refugee Program registrants were clerical and sales workers and skilled workers. http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/1980/07/the-cuban-refugee-problem-in-perspective-1959-1980

MarkW
Reply to  Samuel C Cogar
November 28, 2016 9:48 am

Batista was bad, ergo Castro must be good.
Simplistic and wrong. Just what I’ve learned to expect from socialists.

MarkW
Reply to  Samuel C Cogar
November 28, 2016 9:49 am

Samuel, it doesn’t matter what Castro claimed he was setting out to do.
What matters is what he did.
What he did was take a country with a thriving middle class and impoverish it, killing 10’s of thousands of those who disagreed with him.
He turned Cuba from an open society to a massive prison and gave orders to kill anyone who tried to escape.

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  Samuel C Cogar
November 29, 2016 4:50 am

MarkW – November 28, 2016 at 9:49 am

What he (Castro) did was take a country with a thriving middle class

MarkW, just what the hell is the reason that you REFUSE to comprehend or understand about the context of this quoted statement that was/is posted here>

Back in power, Batista suspended the 1940 Constitution and revoked most political liberties, including the right to strike. He then aligned with the wealthiest landowners who owned the largest sugar plantations, and presided over a stagnating economy that widened the gap between rich and poor Cubans.

Or maybe you prefer to “run n’ hide” in hopes I’ll forget about it?
“DUH”, nigh onto nineteen (19) years {1940 to 1959} of trying to survive Batista’s ironfisted repressive requiem ……. and you are trying to convince the world that Batista actually created a thriving Cuban middle class.
HELLS BELLS, …… the Iraqi citizens were treated far, far better under the rule of Saddam ……. than the Cuban citizens were treated under the rule of Batista, ……. but the US Politicians decided that only Saddam and Castro needed to be killed.

pete
November 27, 2016 12:45 am

This mad crazy world is adolising a despotic tyrant while demonisinga democratically elected US president-elect

Reply to  pete
November 27, 2016 1:33 am

Yes Pete, that aspect is more than a little concerning. It’s totally upside down. To hear the rubbish being broadcast on radio today, especially our Australian ABC, is sickening, and utterly astonishing in its eulogising of this dictator. What’s going to be next? The canonisation of Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot et al?

Reply to  Bushkid
November 27, 2016 3:13 am

Adolf was dog-loving Vegan Green. All he was trying to do was save the planet by eliminating all those people who didn’t understand how massively important accepting German rule as part of muliticutural diversity was.

wws
Reply to  Bushkid
November 27, 2016 12:14 pm

It’s just more proof that the left has always been strongly in favor of elitiist totalitarianism, and HATES true democracy whenever it threatens to upset their favorite little apple carts.

Rhys Kent
November 27, 2016 1:01 am

I think my Maximum Leader, Justin “Juicebox” Trudeau, has just jumped the shark. And it’s about time.
I didn’t vote for him. My reason, although unpopular with the left, was that a failed elementary school teacher was probably not up to the task of Prime Minister.
But what do I know. I like Steve Harper.
You’re next Raul. And soon I hope.

son of mulder
November 27, 2016 1:05 am

Not only did he raise literacy levels but he also told you what you can and can’t read.

ferdberple
November 27, 2016 1:10 am

Mr. Castro made significant improvements to the education and healthcare of his island nation.
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During Castro’s rule, thousands of Cubans were incarcerated in abysmal prisons, thousands more were harassed and intimidated, and entire generations were denied basic political freedoms. Cuba made improvements in health and education, though many of these gains were undermined by extended periods of economic hardship and by repressive policies.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2016/11/26/cuba-fidel-castros-record-repression

Zeke
Reply to  ferdberple
November 27, 2016 10:41 pm

There is one little catchy-watchy with the high literacy resulting from free education in Cuba. Only 2% of Cubans have the internet.

charles nelson
November 27, 2016 1:18 am

I’ll see your Fidel Castro and raise you an Augusto Pinochet.

tony mcleod
Reply to  charles nelson
November 27, 2016 2:12 am

See your Pinochet and raise you two Mbasogos.

charles nelson
Reply to  tony mcleod
November 27, 2016 2:40 am

Sorry old chum.
Full house:
Somosa, El Salvador.
Déby, Chad.
Noriega, Panama.
Karimov, Uzbekistan.
Marcos, The Phillipines.
King Abdullah, Saudi Arabia…..or is that a Royal flush?

Reply to  tony mcleod
November 27, 2016 3:21 am

Robert Mugabe
Pol Pot
gotta lurve those left leaning heroes..

Patrick MJD
Reply to  tony mcleod
November 27, 2016 4:22 am

Ceausescu, Romania.

Bob boder
Reply to  tony mcleod
November 27, 2016 6:26 am

A list of some other great socialist
Mao
Stalin
Hitler
Pol pot
Ho chi min
Mauro
Chavez
Any North Korean leader
All right this is getting boring.

Juan Slayton
Reply to  tony mcleod
November 27, 2016 8:22 am

charles nelson: Somosa, El Salvador.
Too many of these guys, people get confused. You refer, no doubt, to Somoza in Nicaragua. : > )

andy in epsom
Reply to  charles nelson
November 27, 2016 3:17 am

Yes indeed Augusto Pinochet another US puppet put in place after a democratic election that US didn’t like.

Marcus
Reply to  andy in epsom
November 27, 2016 4:54 am

” He rose through the ranks and was appointed Commander in Chief by President Salvador Allende in 1973″
http://www.biography.com/people/augusto-pinochet-9441138
Andy in Never Never Land, you truly are delusional…

hunter
Reply to  andy in epsom
November 27, 2016 6:53 am

Oh my, the rats are angry about people openly discussing Castro and communism.

Reply to  andy in epsom
November 27, 2016 8:29 am

Can’t tell Andy—are you just angry the US is so powerful since according to you, they run the entire planet, except maybe a group or two of natives in some jungle? You seem to believe the US is all-powerful and global in its power, running everything. A very interesting viewpoint, if it weren’t so warped.

catweazle666
Reply to  andy in epsom
November 27, 2016 8:35 am

Pinochet saved Chile from becoming yet another Socialist South American banana republic basketcase and after putting its government and economy on an even keel relinquished power by calling a democratic election.
Chile is still the most prosperous and stable nation in South America.
No wonder the “Progressives” hate his guts.

MarkW
Reply to  andy in epsom
November 28, 2016 9:55 am

It really is odd how simple minded most socialists are.
America has tolerated the election of many socialists around the world.
The people of Chile were upset because after being elected, Allende started implementing changes that he had promised he would not do during the election. (Gee, a leftist lying in order to win an election. What a surprise.)

J.H.
Reply to  charles nelson
November 27, 2016 4:53 am

Augusto Pinochet stopped Salvador Allende from declaring himself President for life and taking Chile into a Cuban style Communist hell. Unlike Cuba’s Castro, Pinochet returned Chile to democratic rule after fighting a communist insurgency and winning. Chile today is a thriving economy and society that far outstrips Castro’s Cuba.
Under any metric you wish to use, Chile is a more free, successful and open society that Cuba. The Chilean people also have the democratic right to elect their government and criticize that government via a free press.

Marcus
Reply to  J.H.
November 27, 2016 4:58 am

“After 25 years in power, he was put under arrest, but died in 2006, before he could be tried for alleged human rights violations.”

hunter
Reply to  J.H.
November 27, 2016 7:38 am

You lie. Pinochet left power via a civil society and open elections and left Chile in peace, the most prosperous nation in South America

Reply to  J.H.
November 27, 2016 9:00 am

I posted the following circa 2005.
We discovered a mine in Jujuy province in northern Argentina at about 13,000 feet elevation. That project took me to Argentina and Chile circa 1992, two years after Pinochet stepped down in Chile.
The Generals regime in Argentina, authors of the Dirty War, had gone ten years earlier. The mothers of the many thousands of “disappeared” young adults were still demonstrating in the Plaza de Mayo, carrying large pictures of their murdered kids.
The Argentinian Generals killed about ten times as many people as Pinochet’s henchmen, and other regimes in South American killed about ten time as many people as the Generals.
Only about ten percent of the countries in the world have ~decent governments – the remainder are some form of dictatorship, some benevolent but many just brutal thugs who live the good life while their people live in various levels of poverty.
As I tried to explain to our friends in Tunisia during Arab Spring, as the hot war raged in Libya next door:
“You don’t usually get to choose between good and bad, you get to choose between bad and worse. Just because you throw out somebody bad doesn’t mean you’ll get somebody better.”
Let’s call this post a small tribute to the hundreds of millions of innocent people who died due to government-inspired violence in the 20th Century.
Regards, Allan
___________________________________________________________________________
SOB’s come in all shapes and sizes, and will always be with us.
While the sidebar summary was well-written, space limitations restricted it to just a handful of countries.
For example, Pinochet was an SOB, but his regime killed fewer citizens (a few hundred to a few thousand) than many other regimes in South America, a fact that is almost never reported in the Canadian press.
Today, Chile is by far the most prosperous country in South America, and human rights and rule of law are also better than in other Latin American countries.
Estimates of the number of young leftists tortured and killed in Argentina’s “Dirty War” range from 10,000 to 30,000, and in some other countries it was in the hundreds of thousands.
The Canadian press has always portrayed Pinochet as the worst SOB in South America, but based on the evidence, he was the best of a bad lot.
Pinochet is routinely vilified for his regime’s brutal actions and the assassination of Salvador Allende. What we do not know, thankfully, is how many people Allende’s Communist regime would have tortured and killed.
Maybe we could use Fidel Castro’s Cuba as a proxy. Scholar R.J Rummel estimates the casualties of his regime at 73,000, with one study estimating over 119,000 and several others suggesting significantly lower figures.
But that torture and killing is apparently OK with the Canadian press (and the Trudeau’s), because Castro is a lefty.

hunter
Reply to  charles nelson
November 27, 2016 6:56 am

I’ll call your hand of junk cards. Pinochet left power after making Chile free and open. Castro leaves Cuba a corrupt police state, worse off than when he stole power. Lefties hate freedom and embrace tyranny at every opportunity.

Rhys Jaggar
Reply to  hunter
November 27, 2016 10:30 am

Your final statement simply is not true. SOME Lefties embrace tyranny, just as George HW Bush embraced global narcotics trafficking with the Cali Cartel and Manuel Noriega to provide dirty money for CIA black ops. That does not make all right wingers drug dealers, does it? It is just that Allen Dulles, Tes Shackleyband many others in the since 1945 DID.

MarkW
Reply to  hunter
November 28, 2016 9:58 am

Rhys, what it makes you is a liar. Bush never embraced the drug cartel.

MarkW
Reply to  charles nelson
November 28, 2016 9:52 am

Augusto Pinochet raised the standard of living in Chile and voluntarily stepped down when he lost a plebiscite. The number of disappeared under Pinochet is only a tiny fraction of those who died under Castro.
PS: Just because one man is bad is not evidence that someone else isn’t bad.

ferdberple
November 27, 2016 1:23 am

http://testing.therealcuba.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/cubanmemorial.jpg
The Cuban Memorial displayed at Tamiami Park, Miami, Florida: Each cross bears the name of a victim of Castro the brothers’ genocide against the Cuban people

MarkW
Reply to  ferdberple
November 28, 2016 9:59 am

And this is just the documented victims.

dp
November 27, 2016 1:24 am

Not the first time Obama will have chanced waking up with fleas, euphemistically speaking.

Phil
November 27, 2016 1:35 am
ferdberple
November 27, 2016 1:48 am

The Cuban people have Fidel to thank for returning the death penalty to Cuba. Apparently this has given Cuban’s a lasting affection for “el Comandante”. Nothing like having your neighbors and family members lined up and shot for speaking out against Castro to convince you to say how much you love Fidel.
Cuban leader Fidel Castro (1926-2016) established the first communist state in the Western Hemisphere after leading an overthrow of the military dictatorship of Fulgencio Batista in 1959.
The 1940 Constitution of Cuba banned capital punishment for peacetime offenses, but the penalty was officially reinstated by law as well as in practice following the Cuban Revolution, in 1959. Sources suggest many more have been executed since 1959, compared to official statistics.

CodeTech
November 27, 2016 1:49 am

If you have an hour to watch, Stefan Molyneux’s “Truth about Fidel Castro” will arm you with facts when discussing things with your less informed leftist friends.
https://youtu.be/2EhlTI0fte0

John A
Reply to  CodeTech
November 27, 2016 3:07 am

Stefan Molyneux – another fact-averse conspiracy theorist

SAMURAI
Reply to  John A
November 27, 2016 11:43 am

No, John… if you actually watched the video, you’d see all of Stefan’s facts are meticulously backed with actual data and quotations.
BTW, Leftists’ penchant for calling anyone with a differing opinion a “conspiracy theorist” is a brainwashing tactic developed by a Leftist called Cass Sunstein…
Anyone that’s well read giggles and eye-rolls when they hear the phrase used because they realize the person repeating it is obviously a brainwashed sycophant…
Just thought I’d give yo a heads up, John…

Dav09
Reply to  John A
November 27, 2016 3:26 pm

So there are no conspiracies, huh? The Official Story is always the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? That’s even more ludicrous than the ruling elite are actually reptilian space aliens in disguise, or the moon landings were faked, or government agents infiltrate internet forums to discredit critics and stifle dissent, or . . . uh, wait . . . scratch that last one.

MarkW
Reply to  John A
November 28, 2016 10:01 am

Notice how Dav09 tries to change the subject. SAMURAI never said that there were no conspiracies.
What he said is that leftist try to discredit anything they disagree with by calling it a conspiracy.

MarkW
Reply to  John A
November 28, 2016 10:07 am

Notice how Dav09 tries to change the subject.
SAMURAI said nothing about there not being any conspiracies. He merely commented on a well documented tactic that is often used by you socialists.

Dav09
Reply to  John A
November 28, 2016 11:46 am

Notice the comical lack of reading comprehension exhibited by MarkW.
For the record:
— The comment by SAMURAI @November 27, 2016 11:43 am was not visible when I posted my comment;
— I fully concur with said comment by SAMURAI;
— At least a third of the comments I’ve ever posted on WUWT make it explicitly clear that I’m about as far from being a socialist as it’s possible to get.

MarkW
Reply to  John A
November 28, 2016 12:30 pm

So you are claiming that the comment that was posted 4 hours before yours was not visible when you posted.
If that’s the story you want to use to defend yourself. Go ahead.

ngard2016
November 27, 2016 1:52 am

How could Canadians have elected this barking mad, vacuous donkey as their PM? He sounds like a bum fluff version of UK’s Labour leader (?) Jeremy Corbin.
You would expect more common sense from the average five year old than these pair of numbskulls.

sadbutmadlad
Reply to  ngard2016
November 27, 2016 3:34 am

And Corbyn said: “From building a world-class health and education system, to Cuba’s record of international solidarity abroad, Castro’s achievements were many. For all his flaws, Castro’s support for Angola played a crucial role in bringing an end to apartheid in South Africa and he will be remembered both as an internationalist and a champion of social justice.”
And in return there is the hashtag #forallhisfaults as everyone brings up examples from Ghengis Khan to Hitler. For example “#ForAllHisFaults Hitler made the trains run on time and allowed free travel for minorities.”

Marcus
Reply to  ngard2016
November 27, 2016 8:26 am

Comparing Justina Trudeau to a 5 year old is an insult to 5 year olds every where !!

MarkG
Reply to  ngard2016
November 27, 2016 11:15 am

“How could Canadians have elected this barking mad, vacuous donkey as their PM?”
The same way Tony Blair won in the UK in the 90s. Low-information voters saying “it’s time for a change, innit?”

Crispin in Waterloo
Reply to  ngard2016
November 28, 2016 6:49 am

ngard2016
Trudeau is not barking mad. Stop over-reacting. He says what the pollsters tell him will get the best reaction. That is how he got elected. He is of the sort that is ripe for overthrow by the voters if someone runs a campaign that addresses directly the concerns people actually want dealt with. For example it was announced today that 60,000 homes in Ontario were disconnected from the grid this year because of the inability to pay their gigantic electric bills. Welcome to wind-o-nomics, Liberal style.
The ‘poll thing’ is easily shown by simply tracking the polls and the responses he gives. If the polls say different, so does he. If the polls are confused, so are his double-responses. The great problems arise when the suppression by political correctness of what really matters goes overboard. The response is to tell pollsters lies which then leads to mis-statements about the issues. Sound familiar?
It helped Trudeau to have a corrupt and lazy, directionless out-going PM and crew. They are titled ‘conservatives’ but in the US would be considered flaming Sanders Leftists. So instead, rejecting the NDP and other ‘out there’ nutters, and with the Rhino Party being in demise (which would have easily out-polled the Greens) people rattled to the centre of the spectrum. Again.
If you want the PM to change his tune, whisper different answers to the pollsters. They rule, for now.

CodeTech
November 27, 2016 1:53 am

By the way, when justine’s alleged father died a few years back, I was telling people how there was fireworks and dancing in the streets in Alberta. I was soundly rebuked by someone in Vancouver who was too young to remember how toxic and damaging trudeau’s reign was to Canada in general, to Alberta specifically. They have been raised to revere that commie, and that’s pathetic.

ferdberple
November 27, 2016 1:54 am

Statement by the Prime Minister of Canada on the death of former Cuban President Fidel Castro
“On behalf of all Canadians, Sophie and I offer our deepest condolences to the family, friends and many, many supporters of Mr. Castro.
============
the correct term for Mr Castro’s supporters is firing squads.

willhaas
Reply to  ferdberple
November 27, 2016 2:09 am

I quess that the Prime Minister of Canada would have said the same sort of thing about the passing of Adloph Hitler as “President” of the German people. Mr. Castro was not reelected ever so often via totally free elections. Mr. Castro was a powerful dictator kept in power by a police state. He did not serve the Cuban people but rather the Cuban people served him. Mayby someday the Cuban people can be be both free and prosperous and not slaves to a dictorial government.

Bryan
November 27, 2016 1:59 am

Pope Francis
“Upon receiving the sad news of the death of your dear brother, His Excellency Mister Fidel Alejandro Castro Ruz, former president of the State Council and of the Government of the Republic of Cuba, I express my sentiments of sorrow to Your Excellency and other family members of the deceased dignitary, as well as to the people of his beloved nation,”
This continues the fascination of recent Popes with Fidel
Remember the historic meeting with Pope John Paul the second.
I think that they see in him a truly moral person who always defended the rights of poor people.
It is remarkable that the white dove of peace rested on Fidel’s shoulder in his inaugural Havana speech.
A sign that will not be lost on Catholics throughout the world
I would not be surprised that Pope Frances attends the state funeral of Fidel Castro

Reply to  Bryan
November 27, 2016 2:48 pm

Bryan, As an ex RC I have learned the people at the top of that entity are largely extremely “progressive: ( I cringe at that misnomer) They have some of the most regressive mentalities you can imagine.. Although the people at our level are very community minded and in most cases very decent people I cannot say that for the Vatican.

Curious George
Reply to  Bryan
November 27, 2016 2:55 pm

I no longer consider myself a Catholic.

MarkW
Reply to  Bryan
November 28, 2016 10:10 am

From what I have read, the Pope is getting ready to come to an agreement with China under which the Chinese government gets to have a say in who is promoted to Cardinal or Bishop.
Something the Catholic Church has fought against for a generation.

tony mcleod
November 27, 2016 2:06 am

Climate warrior? ¿En serio?

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