Friday Funny: Liberals are in such disbelief/shock on Myron Ebell appointment for EPA transition, he has a Snopes page

This is hilarious. Over the past couple of days on Twitter and Facebook, I’ve seen dozens, perhaps even hundreds of meltdown tweets like this:

ebell-freakout

There’s some others far worse that are in full meltdown mode:

 

https://twitter.com/wantedalex101/status/796888758742175744

It even made Scientific American, who even seemed incredulous as they wrote the article:

sciam-ebell

There is so much incredulity, that Snopes had to make a page saying that it was in fact true. Screencap follows:

ebell-snopes

In September 2016, candidate Donald Trump announced his intention to appoint Myron Ebell to lead his administration’s transition team at the Environmental Protection Agency. Ebell currently serves as the director of the Center for Energy and Environment at the libertarian think tank the Competitive Enterprise Institute. He also chairs an initiative named the Cooler Heads Coalition, which, according to Ebell’s official bio:

…comprises over two dozen non-profit groups in this country and abroad that question global warming alarmism and oppose energy rationing policies.

Ebell openly declares himself to be a climate change skeptic who disputes the severity of human activity on Earth’s climate. On this point, Ebell has been extremely consistent: He argues that anthropogenic global warming, if it happens at all, is a minor issue that has been usurped by liberals to expand the federal government. He has stated in many different venues that he intends to dismantle the scientific consensus around anthropogenic global warming, as discussed in this October 23 2012 interview with PBS Frontline’s John Hockenberry:

EBELL: […] What we’re fighting is the expansion of government. And there are many pretexts for expanding government.

HOCKENBERRY: Opposing government action on climate change to defend American freedom is a perfect fit.

EBELL: We felt that if you concede the science is settled and that there’s a consensus, you cannot— the moral high ground has been ceded to the alarmists.

HOCKENBERRY: So you had to go to work and break down this consensus.

EBELL: Yes. And we did it because we believed that the consensus was phony. We believed that the so-called global warming consensus was not based on science, but was a political consensus, which included a number of scientists.

More here: http://www.snopes.com/trump-taps-outspoken-climate-denier-to-oversee-epa-transition-team/

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Thomas Homer
November 11, 2016 12:15 pm

Myron Ebell sounds quite promising to counsel our President.
Much more so than DiCaprio and Nye.

Gandhi
Reply to  Thomas Homer
November 11, 2016 12:24 pm

You mean Bill Nye the Mechanical Engineering Guy?

Thomas Homer
Reply to  Gandhi
November 11, 2016 12:30 pm

“You mean Bill Nye the Mechanical Engineering Guy?”
Indeed – was he chosen so that President Obama could remain the ‘smartest guy in the room’?

Greg
Reply to  Gandhi
November 11, 2016 12:59 pm

Bill Nye the science deNyer guy is a TV clown scientist for amusing children.
He was part of Al Gore frawdulent CO2 “experiment”.

phaedo
Reply to  Thomas Homer
November 11, 2016 12:27 pm

DiCaprio and Nye, Tweedledum and Tweedledee

JohnWho
Reply to  phaedo
November 11, 2016 1:59 pm

Wait! Is the DiCaprio/Nye coalition called, …
Di-Nyers!?

Michael C. Roberts
Reply to  phaedo
November 11, 2016 4:31 pm

Lest we forget Bill Nye started on a Seattle TV post-prime time comedy called ‘Almost Live’ as a bumbling, comedic mad-scientist type. PBS took him seriously (why I don’t know ) and gave him his own kiddie-science show for school age children. When the new POTUS was elected in 2009 Nye was stood up as a valid voice of glow bull warming science. All true.
MCR

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  phaedo
November 12, 2016 10:06 am

“Lest we forget Bill Nye started on a Seattle TV post-prime time comedy called ‘Almost Live’ as a bumbling, comedic mad-scientist type.”
He was on the show, but I don’t recall any “mad-scientist” stuff at all. He was famous for his “super hero” character Speed Walker, or something like that.

Gandhi
November 11, 2016 12:20 pm

I love it!! Al Gore is about to have a conniption fit.

Resourceguy
Reply to  Gandhi
November 11, 2016 1:56 pm

Frat boy style

Kevin Schurig
Reply to  Gandhi
November 11, 2016 4:19 pm

Will need to have his shakras realigned.

Freedom Monger
November 11, 2016 12:30 pm

I have posted this before, and it seems appropriate to do so again.
By using the word “denier” the advocates of AGW are attempting to do what Robert Jay Lifton referred to in his book, Thought Reform and the Psychology of Totalism, as “Loading the Language.”
“The language of the totalist environment is characterized by the thought-terminating cliché. The most far-reaching and complex of human problems are compressed into brief, highly reductive, definitive-sounding phrases, easily memorized and easily expressed. These become the start and finish of any ideological analysis. In thought reform, for instance, the phrase “bourgeois mentality” is used to encompass and critically dismiss ordinarily troublesome concerns like the quest for individual expression, the exploration of alternative ideas, and the search for perspective and balance in political judgments. And in addition to their function of as interpretive shortcuts, these clichés become what Richard Weaver has called “ultimate terms”; either “god terms,” representative of ultimate good; “devil terms,” representative of ultimate evil. In thought reform, “progress,” “progressive,” “liberation,” “proletarian standpoints” and the “dialectic of history” fall into the former category; “capitalist,” “imperialist,” “exploiting classes,” and “bourgeois” (mentality, liberalism, morality, superstition, greed) of course fall into the latter. Totalist language, then, is repetitiously centered on all-encompassing jargon, prematurely abstract, highly categorical, relentlessly judging, and to anyone but its most devoted advocate, deadly dull; in Lionel Trilling’s phrase, “the language of nonthought.”” -Robert Jay Lifton: Thought Reform and the Psychology of Totalism (1961)
Source:
https://archive.org/details/ThoughtReformAndThePsychologyOfTotalism
The word “denier” is a thought-terminating cliché, designed purely to terminate the discussion and denigrate any opposition. It is hurled by an ideology when it cannot make a rational, intellectual, or valid defense of its position against its critics.
Mind Control Cults and Leftists use these kinds of terms extensively. Think: “racist”, “homophobe”, “hater”.

Gamecock
Reply to  Freedom Monger
November 12, 2016 5:04 am

This is important knowledge.
Thank you, Mr. (Ms?) Monger.

Slacko
Reply to  Freedom Monger
November 14, 2016 9:42 am

Freedom Monger November 11, 2016 at 12:30 pm
You might add to that list “conspiracy theorist,” a term used to dismiss a critical thinker.

November 11, 2016 12:44 pm

this could be interesting:
Congress should have no problem finding the money to pay for Donald Trump’s proposed border wall once the president-elect is sworn in, Rep. Louie Gohmert said Friday morning.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/trump-wall-congress-funds-louie-gohmert-231230

William Astley
November 11, 2016 12:46 pm

Trumps’ surrogates need to move the ‘climate change’ discussion from rhetoric (emotional, name calling, appeal to authority, sarcasm and so on) to high level scientific (graphs, data, logic, no subject changing).
The US and other countries do not have trillions of dollars to waste on green scams that do not work, to address a problem that does not exist. The cult of CAGW surrogates do not need to riot in the streets to fight ‘global warming’.
It is win-win for all countries, if there is no CAGW problem to solve and we do not waste money on green scams that do not work.
The IPCC reports did not include the long term paleo record. All of the media reports talks about ‘record’ warming which is the warming that has occurred in the last 150 years (i.e. Highest warming in ‘recorded’ history, i.e. human measured temperature in the last 150 years as opposed to the paleo record, for a longer period, say 11,000 years).
The paleo proxy data (temperature for the current interglacial period, last 11,000 years) shows the planet has warmed and cooled cyclically. The cyclic warming and cooling in the paleo record is the same high latitude warming which we are currently observed.
The earth was roughly 1C to 1.5C warmer than the current ‘record high’ temperatures during this current interglacial.
The data clearly shows the IPCC models are not correct (IPCC models show too much warming and predict that the warming should be global, rather than high latitude). The IPCC models were created (tuned) to justify CAGW, not to accurately model the atmosphere.
General Circulation Model Predicted Warming Vs Observations (Temperature Data from Satellites and Weather Balloons)
http://www.drroyspencer.com/wp-content/uploads/CMIP5-73-models-vs-obs-20N-20S-MT-5-yr-means1.png
There is no CAGW problem to solve. There is not even observational support for LAGW (Lukewarm anthropogenic warming).
Observations support the assertion that the majority of the warming in the last 150 years is due to solar cycle changes (Solar high latitude warming) SHLW rather than due to the increase in anthropogenic atmospheric CO2, LAGW.
The paleo data shows there is cyclic warming which in all cases was followed by cooling in both hemispheres.
http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/davis-and-taylor-wuwt-submission.pdf

Davis and Taylor: “Does the current global warming signal reflect a natural cycle”
…We found 342 natural warming events (NWEs) corresponding to this definition, distributed over the past 250,000 years …. …. The 342 NWEs contained in the Vostok ice core record are divided into low-rate warming events (LRWEs; < 0.74oC/century) and high rate warming events (HRWEs; ≥ 0.74oC /century) (Figure). … …. "Recent Antarctic Peninsula warming relative to Holocene climate and ice – shelf history" and authored by Robert Mulvaney and colleagues of the British Antarctic Survey ( Nature , 2012, doi:10.1038/nature11391),reports two recent natural warming cycles, one around 1500 AD and another around 400 AD, measured from isotope (deuterium) concentrations in ice cores bored adjacent to recent breaks in the ice shelf in northeast Antarctica. ….

Greenland ice temperature, last 11,000 years determined from ice core analysis, Richard Alley’s paper. William: As this graph indicates the Greenland Ice data shows that have been 9 warming and cooling periods in the last 11,000 years.
http://www.climate4you.com/images/GISP2%20TemperatureSince10700%20BP%20with%20CO2%20from%20EPICA%20DomeC.gif

Reply to  William Astley
November 20, 2016 6:01 pm

The IPCC models do not “predict” but rather “project.” Models that “predict” convey information to us about the outcomes of events. Models that “project” serve no useful purpose.

hunter
November 11, 2016 12:48 pm

Mr. Trump will be sorely tempted to compromise on killing the Paris accord.
I suggest that the best way to kill it is to submit it to the Senate for advice and consent- unsigned. Let the Senate vote on it: Respect the Constitution, and show the climate kooks that there is *no* popular support in a lawful open society for their obsession.

milwaukeebob
Reply to  hunter
November 11, 2016 12:53 pm

+1

AllanJ
Reply to  hunter
November 11, 2016 1:04 pm

Agree. Just declare it to be a treaty and it would require a 2/3 vote to approve it.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  hunter
November 11, 2016 1:09 pm

Or he could simply ignore it, since there are no teeth in it anyway.

Reply to  Bruce Cobb
November 11, 2016 7:27 pm

Beth, I am indeed Rud, short for Rudyard, as in Kipling. The first name is honored via the following true story. My father survived WW2 and Korea as a command pilot (with a Guam interlude 1948-1950 where he was a command pilot on retrofitted B-29s for typhoon recons). His flight instructor during WW2 was a Battle of Britton 1941 pilot named directly after Kipling. So I carry that second generation odd name very proudly. Rikki Tivi Tavi, Jungle Book, poem IF… Dad survived two wars because his primary flight instructor was named after writer Kipling. And so I survive today.
Highest regards from one serf to another.

Reply to  hunter
November 11, 2016 2:14 pm

It is NOT a treaty requiring ratification for two distinct reasons. 1. It is nonbinding. 2. There is an opt out.
The simple things to do are revoke the EPA CPP , which is unconstitutional so stayed by SCOTUS, and invoke the Paris agreement opt out clause. Both are simple executive orders that can be done on the first of Trump’s100 days, in about 1 hour. Then pass a simple 1 sentence amendment to CAA declaring that for all CAA purposes, CO2 is not a pollutant. Simpler that redoing the endangerment finding and relitigating Mass. v. EPA, which woild stretch for years. Reid already removed in 2013 the 60 vote filibuster rule that would otherwise have previously applied to that simple legislation in the Senate. Puts in place a permanent legal fix in the first week Congress reconvenes.

Reply to  ristvan
November 11, 2016 2:48 pm

ristvan fer Trump legal adviser!

Reply to  ristvan
November 11, 2016 3:02 pm

Probably not, Beth. i am too deplorable despite my Harvard Law degree.

Greg
Reply to  ristvan
November 11, 2016 3:12 pm

ristvan for AG !
Since US has only “agreement” status for COP22, not ratified, does it even need to opt out?
I an not even sure that there is not some fast dealing going on with the “coming into force” conditions that were announced last week, since it seems that they may be counting the US into the number of countries already engaged ( on the basis of the “agreement” not ratified position ) and thus the 55% threshold they are claiming to have achieved may be false.
Ristvan is much more informed on legailities than I am , I’d like to have his opinion on that issue.

Reply to  ristvan
November 11, 2016 3:28 pm

Given our experience of recent elites, why, ‘deplorability’
has become an asset, Rud – if that is what you are. )

Reply to  ristvan
November 11, 2016 6:47 pm

Greg, there are two legal conflicting standards: international law, only partly binding on the US by treaty, and US binding by the Contsitution. So, under international law the Paris accord is ‘binding’. Except the only binding provision is to submi a new INDC in 4 years. Under US law itmis a mere executive agreement. Undoable by the next executive. Plus. Paris has an explicit opt out. Nobody needs an HLS degree to understand these basics. Opt out is a political nose punch, not legally necessary. Nonbinding INDCs have one Paris enforcement mechanism, UN name and shame. Who cares? “Sticks and stone can hurt my bones, but words will never hurt me.”
US just needs to grow some kindergarten chops. Highest regards.

Reply to  ristvan
November 12, 2016 5:30 am

Rud, a proud history. On 11th November, in Oz we commemorate
Armistice Day, WW1.
Say, on Climate Etc we have you named after Kipling and we have kim. )

milwaukeebob
November 11, 2016 12:52 pm

President Trump’s biggest problem is going to be ferreting out the 1/3 good from the 2/3 bad the Fed. Gov does and the live wood from the dead wood. (Probably about the same ratio.) One way he could do that would be to turn over some Fed. functions to the States (a lot of which are duplicated at State level anyhow) saying here’s 1/3 of the money (divided by 49) that the Fed was spending on X. 49 because of course he would exclude California from that “gift” because they would do something stupid with the money like spend it on a high-speed train from nowhere A to even lesser nowhere B – well, not actually on THE train, but rather on a committee of accountants and university researchers to plan the best way to study the ramifications of implementing a plan (yet to be created) on the best method and most cost effective way to convince the public of the positive environmental effects of riding bicycles to high-speed train stations.
But you other States here’s your Hippocratic oath: DO NO HARM to anyone, particularly business and the State next to you with your policies and actions. If you do, the money will stop.

MarkG
Reply to  milwaukeebob
November 12, 2016 3:50 pm

Shouldn’t be hard. Didn’t 1/3 of Federal employees say they’d quit if Trump became President?

Ernest Bush
Reply to  MarkG
November 13, 2016 2:54 pm

These will turn out to be another bunch of liberal liars.

Paul Westhaver
November 11, 2016 12:58 pm

Bill Nye is soon to be unemployed.

Greg
Reply to  Paul Westhaver
November 11, 2016 1:00 pm

Na, there is always work for clowns.

Reply to  Paul Westhaver
November 11, 2016 1:32 pm

Lots of vacancies at McDonalds.

Tom Judd
November 11, 2016 1:06 pm

I found this attachment in the comments to a post at the Powerline blog. I think that now that the election is over we should exhibit the same concern for our opponents’ feelings that have been exhibited to us ‘lo these last eight years. And, I think this is an excellent way to start:
https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Flist%3DFLTtgRqjamnYx8wHNOqjcJpA%26v%3DxNbF9PI9Gjo&h=VAQGJwOx4

Rhoda R
Reply to  Tom Judd
November 11, 2016 2:20 pm

THAT is great!

auto
Reply to  Tom Judd
November 11, 2016 4:01 pm

Tom J
Fabulous!
Almost wet myself – certainly + Dozens!
Spread it far and wide.
But, whilst the recent events are good omens, the Watermelons’ Religion needs to be killed – and Cooked [and Manned??] – otherwise there is a fear that the pendulum may swing again . . .
and Nu-Watermelons will pervert the data again.
Go Donald.
As a brit, I had no vote [quite rightly] on the Trumping of the USA – but, heyyy – I was a Brexiteer!
Auto, rather cheered!!!

Myron Mesecke
November 11, 2016 1:16 pm

Well this Myron is rooting for the other Myron.

November 11, 2016 1:27 pm

Myron Ebell – if you take off the glasses he looks a bit similar to Vladimir Putin.

graphicconception
Reply to  ptolemy2
November 11, 2016 8:14 pm

I bet Hillary’s supporters think he is Vladimir Putin!

al
November 11, 2016 1:30 pm

Holdren is preparing his bucket list.

Resourceguy
Reply to  al
November 11, 2016 1:55 pm

He’s probably at the beach where they created a temporary buyers market with rising seas and scary climate stories.

JimB
November 11, 2016 1:30 pm

First step: Cut off all funding for NGOs that focus on ecology, particularly global warming dangers. Next, cut back on funds for college level ecology courses. In fact, cut back on all college funding.Next, cut back on EPA funding by about …umm…99%. You’re welcome.

Dr. Dave
Reply to  JimB
November 11, 2016 2:00 pm

You’re just getting started…
NASA GISS funding… zero
National Science Foundation funding on global warming… zero
EPA funding on Global Warming… zero
NOAA funding on global warming… zero
State Department funding on global warming… zero
Department of Energy funding on global warming… zero
Department of Defense funding on global warming… zero
The gravy bowl is dry fellas… time to find a new line of work!

brians356
Reply to  Dr. Dave
November 11, 2016 2:54 pm

First things first: Remove CO2 from the EPA’s list of “dangerous pollutants”. That one move will take care of most everything else, thank you very much!

Reply to  Dr. Dave
November 11, 2016 5:34 pm

Has anyone thought of the millions of college students who’ve spent the last three and a half years sucking up to the likes Mann, or worse, in order to “get Into the business”?
Cracks me up.

Greg
Reply to  JimB
November 11, 2016 3:14 pm

revoke tax-free status for Greenpi$$ as they did in India.

Richard of NZ
Reply to  JimB
November 12, 2016 2:31 pm

Mr. Trump should have promised the student types free university education, with the (hidden) proviso of “be careful what you wish for”. The shock of their beloved safe spaces closing down because the staff would not attend for nothing might have focused their attention on reality.

Resourceguy
November 11, 2016 1:54 pm

This is going to be good. The truth is snapping back to take its place ahead of policy head fakes and manipulated news…..again.

November 11, 2016 1:59 pm

Is there a slight chance for a class action against journals like Nature for their role in the Hockey Stick and other issues? As it is German owned, there would be at least some benefit for German people, who still live in Orwell’s world.

Zeke
November 11, 2016 2:04 pm
DocScience
November 11, 2016 2:17 pm

The real tragedy here is that the assigned free limo parking for the NRDC, WWF, and Sierra Club at the EPA HQ will be taken away. As well as their free lunch privileges at the EPA executive cafeteria.

Reply to  DocScience
November 11, 2016 3:04 pm

And their secret gmail access to senior EPA officials.

auto
Reply to  ristvan
November 11, 2016 4:02 pm

What servers do t h e y use?
Auto – just asking, you know, chaps.

Jerry Henson
November 11, 2016 2:29 pm

It gives me great joy to repeat “elections have consequences” BHO.

R.S. Brown
November 11, 2016 2:36 pm

President Obama will probably, with little fanfare and no publicity, issue
blanket pardons to Mann and Trenberth for unspecified activities over the
past 20 years.
Bill Nye will still look foolish.

brians356
November 11, 2016 2:36 pm

So there is a God. Thank you, this is frosting on the cake of seeing Hill in the rear-view mirror.

gnomish
Reply to  brians356
November 11, 2016 4:34 pm

can you please back up? so you can run over her again?

November 11, 2016 2:40 pm

EU president Jean-Claude Juncker :
“We must know what climate policies he intends to pursue. This must be cleared up in the next few months.”
Climate Action Network’s Arab world co-coordinator:
“Those countries trying to put obstacles in the way of Paris can now take advantage of the political instability caused by Trump’s election,” she said. “I think that some states which signed the Paris agreement because of all the international pressure will now use the US election as an excuse to put obstacles in the way of a transparent agreement. They are doing that in informal meetings.”
Liz Gallagher, a senior associate at the environmental thinktank E3G
“They are using all the tools at their disposal just to try to seed a bit of discontent everywhere, which is frankly a bit pathetic. They can use procedures as much as they like …..,
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/nov/11/trump-victory-may-embolden-other-nations-to-obstruct-paris-climate-deal

Reply to  vukcevic
November 11, 2016 3:07 pm

Juncker, please read Trump’s Contract with America. His promises are simple and clear. You won’t like them. Tough.

Greg
Reply to  ristvan
November 11, 2016 3:20 pm

Jean-Claude Juncker :
“We must know what climate policies he intends to pursue. ”
This is the typical EU bureaucrat’s trick. He already knows what trump will do, he just tires to pretend that it is still an open question and thus may be negotiated.

AllyKat
Reply to  vukcevic
November 11, 2016 8:52 pm

Because, you know, the US’s presumptive climate change policies should be the biggest concern of the president of the EU. That right there tells you everything you need to know about the EU, and why Brexit happened.
That “senior associate” is likely to get fired for exposing her employer’s tactics.

brians356
November 11, 2016 2:50 pm

Hey, anybody seen “Griff”? I wonder if he’s still recovering?

Greg
Reply to  brians356
November 11, 2016 3:39 pm

Well done Brian, we almost had a day without discussing what “big-G” thinks until you came along.

Griff
Reply to  Greg
November 12, 2016 10:42 am

Big G – I like that – I’m going to put it on a T shirt.

Griff
Reply to  brians356
November 12, 2016 10:42 am

Out for a walk – don’t usually have time to come here Saturdays…
Well this is a surprise for certain.
I would like to say this:
I hope the skeptic side will not descend into victimisation, muzzling and scapegoating of scientists.
It has often spoken in these columns about alleged harassment of those of a skeptic view and so I’ll be holding all to that same high standard in the months ahead.
(and the arctic sea ice is still at a record low for this time of year and no political decision will affe3ct the obvious evidence that shows!)

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Griff
November 12, 2016 10:31 pm

Clearly you have plenty of time, one could consider it a full-time job. You are a prolific poster of alarmist propaganda…hence the post by Brains356.

David Ball
Reply to  Griff
November 13, 2016 11:20 am

Griff November 12, 2016 at 10:42 am pukes out;
“I hope the skeptic side will not descend into victimisation, muzzling and scapegoating of scientists.”
No, Griff. Unlike you guys, we intend to use science. Your tactics never end well.

kim
Reply to  Griff
November 14, 2016 5:58 pm

Griff’s adrift.
=========

George W Childs
November 11, 2016 3:05 pm

Let the liberal meltdown begin…

November 11, 2016 3:35 pm

“As we fought the storms of life
The old AGW rang bells of fear
It screamed the calamity is near
Now it trembles in the darkness
Ain’t got time to fix the data
Ain’t gonna need the AGW no longer
Ain’t gonna need the AGW no more
This old AGW is gettin’ shaky
This old AGW lets in the rain
This old AGW lets in the cold
But people feel no fear or pain”
With apology to Shakin’ Stevens

Reply to  vukcevic
November 11, 2016 3:54 pm

+1. Turned out jest a house of cards.

November 11, 2016 3:36 pm

Em ..Don’t have so many Republicans have their fingers in the GREEN SUBSIDY pie ?
We’ve got to get Climate/Energy policy going in the right direction it might be difficult to get people to move in the right direction.
Like can we incentivise them to move in the right direction instead of leaving them empty handed and using all their time to make trouble ?
Like get windfarm engineers working in more useful jobs. Those guys on the ground will know that windfarms are a con anyway.