China and US to ratify landmark Paris climate deal ahead of G20 summit, sources reveal

by Myron Ebell

The South China Morning Post reported on Thursday that U. S. President Barack Obama and Chinese President Xi Jinping “are set to jointly announce their ratification” of the Paris Climate Treaty when they meet on 2nd September before the G-20 Summit.  This is curious because ratifying treaties in the United States requires a two-thirds vote of the Senate.

Here is the language from Article Two, Section Two, Clause Two of the U. S. Constitution: “[The President] shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur.”

The article by Li Jing references this curious requirement: “There are still some uncertainties from the US side due to the complicated US system in ratifying such a treaty, but the announcement is still quite likely to be ready by Sept 2,” said a source, who declined to be named.

In China’s Communist Party dictatorship, ratification merely requires their Maximum Leader to say, “So be it.”

Later in the article, Li Jing again tries to explain the inscrutable U. S. methods for ratifying a treaty: “US law allows the nation to join international agreements in a number of ways, including through the authority of the president.”

Lo and behold, the President of the United States can ratify a treaty in the same way as China’s Maximum Leader.  He merely has to say the magic words, “So be it.”  And it is so.  Who knew that President Barack Obama has become our Maximum Leader, or perhaps I should say our dear Maximum Leader?

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BillK
August 26, 2016 6:50 pm

Wait a minute … the color brown doesn’t make it through moderation???
[What was pruned did not make it through moderation … .mod]

SMC
Reply to  BillK
August 26, 2016 7:14 pm

It wasn’t just the word brown… Despite the common usage in bathrooms, in the context of this thread it could easily be construed as a racist comment.

Reply to  SMC
August 26, 2016 8:27 pm

My personal view of all modern day Democrats is that they are Brown and desperately deserve to be flushed down due to their lack of ethics and tolerance of no-ethics within their party.
That view has zero to do with anyone’s skin color, and everything to do with what one sees in the toilet bowl after a satisfying #2. No racism needed what so ever. #ethicslessDemocrats

Reply to  SMC
August 26, 2016 11:26 pm

What? is any mention of colour in any context now racist?
Obama, is BLACK. Not Brown. Trump is WHITE, not yellow.
Black white brown red yellow. And of course Green.
All vile bigotry these days.
sheesh. This blog is sinking under the weight of its own inability to reject the modern politically correct cant.

Reply to  BillK
August 26, 2016 11:22 pm

Oh dear. Is the prudery of Islamic state now the US cultural norm?

August 26, 2016 7:24 pm

This is all based on a story in the South China News, a newspaper. I seem to recall that a newspaper once published a story that wasn’t true…

SMC
Reply to  Ronald P Ginzler
August 26, 2016 7:39 pm

What?!? Are you trying to imply that journalists may not be entirely honest about the news they report? That journalists might ‘color’ their stories with their biases? That journalists may promote, nay advocate, issues they and/or their editors favor? I can’t believe you would insinuate such a thing!!! :))

Louis
August 26, 2016 7:51 pm

What is ratified by the President alone can be rescinded by the next president. Obama is counting on the next president being unwilling to rock the boat when it comes to an agreement with China and not wanting to risk their disfavor. He’s counting on the same thing with his Iran agreement. Of course, by the time the next president is in a position to do anything, Iran will have already received the billions they were promised. Who knows what he is promising to China. We may never know because secret side agreements are all the rage these days.

SMC
Reply to  Louis
August 26, 2016 8:00 pm

Our next president is likely going to have to fight a war with China…and Iran…and Russia

Mike the Morlock
Reply to  SMC
August 26, 2016 8:43 pm

SMC August 26, 2016 at 8:00 pm
I tend to agree with you on China and Iran. but I don’t think Russia wants bad relation with us. I think the present administration made a absolute mess of USA -Russian diplomacy.
One thing to bear in mind, Russia’s population is some where between 146,000,000-143,000,000
yes the population is declining. Considering we both have the same real enemies they probably want President Obama gone as much as us if not more. Also I suspect Hillary has already burned all the bridges with her accusations of the Russians hacking the DNC.
just my two cents worth

Mike the Morlock
Reply to  SMC
August 26, 2016 8:50 pm

Oh and SMC I am proud to say I voted for this guy twice and wish I could vote for another one like him. Maybe Mr Trump will be as good.

michael

SMC
Reply to  SMC
August 27, 2016 5:30 am

It’s too bad Reagan isn’t alive and well today. Talk about a landslide election if he were…

SMC
Reply to  SMC
August 27, 2016 5:51 am

Mike,
I think Russia, China and Iran have an under the table deal with the devil. If one starts the conflict, it won’t take long for the other two to pile on.
As for Hillary burning bridges with Russia, I don’t think so. I think the focus on Russian hacking is for domestic consumption. A way to distract her supporters by focusing on an external threat instead of DNC’s internal problems.
my 2 cents…

TA
Reply to  SMC
August 27, 2016 11:06 am

I don’t think Russia wants a war with the U.S., but they will side with China in China’s territorial disputes, and China will do the same for Russia. Strength is the only thing that is going to keep either one of them from encroaching on their neighbors. It may not take a war, but it will certainly take strength and the enemy must know you are willing to use that strength if they cross a certain line.
Obama has seriously weakened the U.S. position in the world, to the point that even petty dictators like the Mad Mullahs of Iran are thumbing their nose at Obama. Next time the Iranian swiftboats come out to harrass a U.S. naval vessel, the U.S. ought to blow one of them out of the water, and my bet is there won’t be nearly as much of that going on in the future.
The next president will have to establish to the world that he is not another pacifist like Obama. That’s going to take tough talk, building up the U.S. military, and a willingness to take military action if necessary.
Bullies don’t stop pushing their envelope until someone puts a stop to it. With Obama, the bullies are now getting used to getting their way. The next U.S. president will have to show the bullies that there will be serious consequences to future bullying. The bullies may think the next president is like Obama, and the bullies may overstep as a result, so the next president wants to nip that thought in their minds, the bud, by projecting strength and determination.
And unfortunately, with Obama’s pacifism on display all this time, the next U.S. president will have to prove himself on the battlefield. Will have to prove to the world he is prepared to do battle, if that becomes necessary, because Obama has shown them a U.S. president who is not prepared to do battle.
That’s what bullies understand: Force. They will behave if they think you can hurt them. Except for the crazy ones, of course. Those, you really do have to hurt. Like the Islamic Terror Army and all the other murderous radical Islamists out there. There is no dealing with them. They die, or we die.
Fortunately for Trump, he can establish his military bonifides early in his term by launching a successful destruction of the Islamic Terror Army. It’s destruction is supported by the U.S. population, and our enemies can stand back and watch what a real army can do.
All Trump has to do is tell his generals he wants the Islamic Terror Army gone as soon as possible, and then put the plan in their capable hands. Give the U.S. military their heads, and they’ll knock out the Islamic Terror Army in a matter of months. Even with our current depleted military. Obama has had them handcuffed for the last eight years.

August 26, 2016 7:53 pm

Of course President Obama lied to Chinese President Xi Jinping!
One wouldn’t want Xi Jinping, or the Chinese people, to feel left out.

August 26, 2016 8:16 pm

Myron:
The US won’t ratify anything before 9/2. Can’t happen. Won’t happen. Ends.

SAMURAI
August 26, 2016 8:23 pm

Hillary has every intent of adhering to this unconstitutional Paris TREATY, regardless of its legal and enforceability issues, and irrespective of its devastating economic consequences.
When have legal, ethical, logical, moral, and economic considerations ever held sway over Hillary’s corrupt actions? All of her actions have the express purposes of increasing her personal power, control and money.
Even if this unconstitutional TREATY makes it to SCOTUS, since she’ll appoint Scalia’s replacement (plus a possible 2 more if elected POTUS), there is NO doubt what the ruling be (see previous sentence)..
And so it goes….

August 26, 2016 9:08 pm

There’s really no chance the treaty will be ratified. That requires both houses of Congress. It won’t happen. I’m taking bets. I’ll give 20 to 1 against ratification.

Tom Halla
Reply to  Bartleby
August 26, 2016 9:13 pm

No, only the Senate by a two-thirds vote ratifies treaties. A majority vote in both houses would be required on the probably neccessary enforcing legislation.

Reply to  Tom Halla
August 27, 2016 12:17 am

Yep, exactly. So this would be what we in the bleachers call a “non-event”.

Yirgach
Reply to  Tom Halla
August 27, 2016 2:29 pm

The current senate is not the body which was originally designed by the Founders for the Republic to ratify things like treaties.
Article 1, Section 3 of the US Constitution (1787) said “The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each state, chosen by the legislature thereof, for six years; and each Senator shall have one vote.”
The 17th Amendment (1913, same year as the 16th Amendment – Income Tax, what a busy year!) modified Article 1 to read “The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each state, elected by the people thereof, for six years; and each Senator shall have one vote.”
As Franklin said after the Constitutional Convention in 1787:
“Well, Doctor, what have we got—a Republic or a Monarchy?”
“A Republic, if you can keep it.”

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Tom Halla
August 28, 2016 6:27 am

Yirgach August 27, 2016 at 2:29 pm
Few people are aware of this. It is this Amendment alone that , in my opinion, did more to start the destruction of the Constitution than any other act in our history.

u.k(us)
August 26, 2016 9:39 pm

Even the NSA can’t figure out what to do with China’s intercepted data.
Garbage out, garbage in.

August 26, 2016 10:05 pm

The USSA is dying. And the meeja is cheering.

Dr. S. Jeevananda Reddy
August 26, 2016 10:48 pm

“Climate Change” is not “Global Warming”
Dr. S. Jeevananda Reddy, Agrometeorologist
Weather & Climate: Climate is what you expect, weather is what you get. Weather & climate respectively refer to short-term & long-term events in the atmosphere. Averages and extremes in climate in terms of meteorological parameters such as temperature, precipitation, wind, relative humidity, etc for individual stations can be seen in normal books published by meteorological departments using 30 year period. Thus, temperature is only one parameter of weather and climate. Meteorological parameters do not act independently but they interact with each other in the atmosphere. Change in one parameter has an impact on the other parameters. They vary with climate system. The major components of climate system are the atmosphere, the hydrosphere, the crystosphere, the land surface and the biosphere. General circulation patterns relating to wind systems are superposed on the climate system. These play vital role on local and regional weather and climate. Thus, weather and climate vary with space and time.
Climate Change: Changes in climate are not new. They were there in the past and will be there in the future. These are inbuilt variations in nature. However, with the increased interference of humans on nature, the natural variations are being modified at local and regional scales. The combination of these is known as climate change. However, climate change has turned in to political satire of “global warming and carbon credits”, which carry billions of dollars to share that is evident even from the 2015 Paris Agreement.
(A) Natural variability consists of (a) irregular variations that include intra-seasonal & intra-annual variations and (b) systematic variations expressed by fluctuations or cyclic variations of different durations. These are beyond human control and thus needs to adapt to them. That is exactly what our forefathers did in the case of water resources and agriculture.
(B) The man-induced variations have two parts. They are changes through (a) greenhouse effect and (b) non-greenhouse effect. The former has two components, namely (i) global warming since 1951 through anthropogenic greenhouse gases — Carbon Dioxide from fossil fuel use, and (ii) impact of aerosols from volcanic eruptions. The later is ecological changes associated with the changes in land & water use and cover, which are defined by (i) “urban-heat-island effect” and (ii) “rural-cold-island effect”.
Global Warming: The global average annual temperature is derived from the data series over land and ocean but they present non-uniform distribution with both space and time. Same is also the case with the Carbon Dioxide. Systematic measurements over oceans started only since 1990 and prior to that the ships used to take observations enroute. Contamination and covering with filth of the ocean waters steadily increasing. From 1973 onwards though satellites started measuring the data but officially the data is available since 1979. For the same period balloon data series are also available. As this data series showed lower annual average temperature over that of ground based measured data, this data was withdrawn from the internet. To show there is significant increase in global temperature due to global warming, some organizations that are maintaining the ground based data lowered the past data and raised the current data. With all these the past 20 years the trend showed a hiatus-pause.
In the global [land & ocean] temperature anomaly data series of 1880 to 2010, the trend component presented an increase of 0.6 oC per century. Over this trend superposed a 60-year cycle wherein the sine curve varied between – 0.3 oC to and 0.3 oC. According to IPCC from 1951 more than half of the global average temperature anomaly is associated with anthropogenic greenhouse gases effect (B/a). Global warming is part of this (B/a/i). Even if we assume global warming component as 50%, the trend associated with it is only 0.3 oC per century. Even this is basically because of lowering the past data and rising current data. Also, the data is corrupted by having met network concentrated in urban areas and thus overemphasizing urban-heat-island effect and by having sparse met network in rural areas [which is more than twice that of urban areas] and thus underemphasizing rural-cold-island effect. This is not the case with satellite data.
Thus, so far the Global warming component is less than 0.15 oC only. It is insignificant when compared to intra-annual and intra-seasonal changes in temperature and thus has little impact on nature. The global warming component was attributed to cause sea level rise, ice melts, glaciers retreat, impact crop production, cause extreme weather events, rainfall-monsoon changes, etc, etc. There is no way we can we expect these with that meagre change in temperature.
Destruction of Nature: Nature is being destroyed by both natural disasters such as cyclonic activity, earthquakes, volcanic activity, tsunamis, etc; and activities to meet human greed such as wars, oil-gas-water extraction, physical destruction of ecologically sensitive zones & destruction of natural water flow systems, etc. Many a times such destruction and their associated changes in nature are attributed to global warming. The reality is quite different. Let me present few cases in this direction.
(i) Flood Disasters: Droughts and floods are common to India for that matter world over. Each year one part or the other in India experiences the floods and droughts. The severity of destruction changes with the time of the year, the terrain, with the population growth, and growth in infrastructure. However, with the violation of existing local, state and national laws the destruction is aggravated. This is the case with flood disasters in Uttarkhand in June 2013 and Jammu & Kashmir in 2014; November-December 2015 floods in Chennai in Tamil Nadu & Nellore in Andhra Pradesh; September 2000 floods in Hyderabad in Telangana. All these disasters are associated with the apathy of government agencies as they were unable to control the illegal construction activities along the river beds and converting rainwater channels, rivers, water bodies in to concrete jungle. Now governments are putting the blame on global warming as it cannot defend against such onslaught by politicians and bureaucrats to protect themselves for wrong doings.
(ii) Heat & Cold waves: Heat & cold waves are also common to certain parts of India in summer & winter in association with the Western Disturbances, part of General Circulation Pattern. The high pressure belt over Nagpur region defines the impact zones.
(iii) Himalayan Glaciers Melt: IPCC pronounced in its AR4 Report stating that the Himalayan Glaciers will melt by 2035. Same way Al Gore concluded that Greenland will be ice free in five years. When we questioned UN Secretary General through a letter the veracity on such pronouncements in 2009, these conclusions were withdrawn but only after they received Noble Prize. Government informed to Indian Parliament after Paris meet in 2015 that 86.6% of 2181 of Himalayan Glaciers are not receding.
Natural Variability: Water is a natural resource, fundamental to life, livelihood, food security and sustainable development; it is also a scarce resource. India has more than 17.11% of the world’s population, but has only 4.6% of world’s water resources with 2.3% of world’s land area. Precipitation and snow melt provide the fresh water; though they are renewable, they are highly variable with space and time; climate change plays vital role in the year to year water availability over different parts of India.
At national level the variability of southwest monsoon precipitation [June to September] appears to be very low – coefficient of variation is 9.9% — but as we go smaller areas like state or met sub-division they are higher – Coastal Andhra, Rayalaseema & Telangana sub-divisions, respectively they are 22.2%, 28.8% & 23.5%. The rainfall in July, August & September months over Telangana met sub-division vary highly between 25-50 mm and more than 400-425 mm in a month. This is the type of temporal variability we experience. In the case of special variation, the drought proneness reaches as high as 60% of the years in rain shadow zone of Western Ghats like Anantapur-Bellary-Sangly zone to zero percent in good rainfall zones. Without understanding these, people make statements like “unusually extreme”.
Destruction of Western Ghats and Himalayas, more particularly foot-hills, will have disastrous effect on climate, more particularly on precipitation. For example, with the removal of hillock in the Santacruz Airport for the expansion of runways, reduced the rainfall by about 300 mm; but subsequently with densely built tall structures all around brought the rainfall to more or less to the original condition.
Earth’s climate is dynamic and always changing through the natural cycle. What we are experiencing now is part of this system. All India Southwest monsoon precipitation, that constitutes 78% of the annual, since 1871 to date followed a 60-year cycle. By 1987, two cycles have been completed. The third cycle started in 1987 and will continue up to around 2046 in which the first 30 years form part of better rainfall period [this will end by 2016] and the next 30 years form part of poor rainfall period [starting from 2017]. The frequency of occurrence of floods in the northwestern Indian rivers followed this pattern. Hurricanes and Typhoons also follow this cyclic pattern but in opposite direction. Same is the case with ocean temperatures in Atlantic and Pacific oceans.
However, this is not applicable to individual states or regions. For example, Andhra Pradesh a southeastern part of Indian States receives rainfall not only in southwest monsoon season but also in the northeast monsoon season [October to December] and as well cyclonic storms in summer [pre-monsoon season, April-May]. Both the monsoons rainfall presents a 56-year cycle but in opposite pattern. The frequency of occurrence of cyclonic activity in Bay of Bengal followed northeast monsoon 56-year cycle pattern. The annual rainfall presents 132 year cycle in which in the 66 year below the average cycle part [prior to 1935] present 12 years with excess rainfall [>110% of the average] and in 24 years with deficit rainfall [< 90% of the average]; in the 66-year above the average cycle part [from 1935 to 2000] present 24 years with excess rainfall and in 12 years with deficit rainfall. The current below the average part of 66 years cycle part will be similar to prior to 1935, started in 2001. Water availability in the Krishna River basin presents similar pattern in terms of surplus & deficit.
Agro-climate studies: This is exactly what the nations should be pondering upon.
Because of these scenarios, there is a need to carryout detailed agro-climate analysis at individual station level and region level to develop adaptive measures and as well development of water resources like interlinking of rivers, construction of dams and application of micro-irrigation, etc. In fact such analysis provides basic information such as drought proneness, sustainable growing period and sustainable period for planting.
Dr. S. Jeevananda Reddy
Formerly Chief Technical Advisor WMO/UN

mem
Reply to  Dr. S. Jeevananda Reddy
August 27, 2016 2:18 am

Sir,
I read your comment with great interest.( It deserves to have its own heading.) I am not a meteorologist but a statistician and marketer with a good understanding of agronomy and experience in crop marketing. As you would appreciate weather and climate at a local, national and international level come in to play when it comes to production, forecasting and especially export marketing. It seems to me that people in our industry know far more about climate than those driving the climate change agenda. Often we have the suited boffins addressing growers to tell us the latest climate change doomsday scenario, we listen politely, then get on with our business. There are a number of more experienced climate/computer companies around that now customise analysis of weather not only to a specific property and region but also analyse competitors by region to project possible seasonal crop failures, allowing longer term planning to fill a gap and take advantage of market demand. This is exciting stuff and it provides far more benefit to people and nations than the AGW political movement that is a huge and unnecessary cost to governments and their people.

Alan Robertson
Reply to  mem
August 27, 2016 7:00 am

“…it provides far more benefit to people and nations than the AGW political movement that is a huge and unnecessary cost to governments and theirpeople.”
———————-
Better?

JohnKnight
Reply to  mem
August 28, 2016 6:40 pm

mem,
I suggest you take everything Dr. S. Jeevananda Reddy says with a grain of salt . . rather than the pound or two I recommend when listening to the CAGW gang ; )

August 26, 2016 11:09 pm

The Paris Agreement enter into force when at least 55 Parties to the Convention accounting in total for at least an estimated 55 % of the total global greenhouse gas emissions have ratified the agreement.
So far, 23 parties have ratified. http://unfccc.int/focus/ndc_registry/items/9433.php
It is interesting to see that almost all of the parties first to ratify are small island nations. I guess the rising sea levels are felt more directly as an existential threat there.
/Jan

Charlie
Reply to  Jan Kjetil Andersen
August 27, 2016 3:25 am

Alternatively, the expectation of a tsunami of dollars heading their brings about a ‘let’s get this thing signed’ attitude.

Reply to  Jan Kjetil Andersen
August 27, 2016 8:27 am

If I lived on one of islands, I’d see Yankee dollars coming my way. Of course I’d ratify it. What’s the down side? It’s not like they have some manufacturing plant that will have to close on account of it.

sciguy54
Reply to  Jan Kjetil Andersen
August 27, 2016 10:54 am

Jan
“As of 23 August 2016, there are 180 signatories…. 23 States have also deposited their instruments of ratification, acceptance or approval accounting in total for 1.08 % of the total global greenhouse gas emissions.”
http://unfccc.int/paris_agreement/items/9444.php
So the 23 are those who expect to profit from COP21. The 157 who have yet to commit are likely to include those who expect to pay.

DWR54
August 26, 2016 11:55 pm

The term ‘ratification’ used by the SCP author infers that the Paris Agreement is a legally binding treaty. The US position is that the Paris agreement does not fit that definition, therefore it doesn’t have to be ratified by the Senate. The formal process of ‘accepting’ or ‘approving’ the Paris Agreement can take the form of a presidential order or statement.

DWR54
Reply to  DWR54
August 27, 2016 12:15 am

That should be ‘implies’ – not ‘infers’! ‘Causes one to infer…’ I mean.

john
Reply to  DWR54
August 27, 2016 5:35 am

Like that little unilateral war Obama has going against the People of the State of Maine?
Obama is pushing the TPP for his cronies, Especially his jobs czar at GE who just moved his HQ to Boston and thousands of jobs overseas. GE recently acquired Alstom and just got a $2 billion deal for Amtrak. They also went Enron on the offshore thingy.
Flashback: http://dailybail.com/home/ge-dumps-offshore-wind-power-plans-after-collecting-125-mill.html
GE Affiliate Keeps $476M Award Over Failed Wind Turbine Pact
http://www.law360.com/articles/810028/ge-affiliate-keeps-476m-award-over-failed-wind-turbine-pact
GE Summons Enron’s Ghost as First U.S. Offshore Wind Farm Rises
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-08-24/skyscraper-size-windmills-give-lift-to-ge-renewable-energy-goals
Alstom says wins $2 billion U.S. train deal
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/us-alstom-usa-idUSKCN1112BH
Ge acquires alstom
http://www.fool.com/investing/2016/08/15/without-alstom-growth-eludes-general-electric-comp.aspx
However, one of Obama’s other darlings, Abengoa/Iberdrola (Atlantica Yield), Spanish entities who received hundreds of millions in stimulus funds is going the way of SUNE.
http://wolfstreet.com/2016/08/25/did-moodys-sever-abengoa-life-line-in-debt-restructuring-bankruptcy/
The good governor of Maine once told POTUS where to go. In 3 part harmony, myself and the rest of Maine (and others) now are singing the tune. Long live Joshua Chamberlain and the regiment from Maine for freeing the folks that were being racially suppressed. You are welcome.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Round_Top

Johann Wundersamer
August 27, 2016 3:41 am

Myron Ebell
“The South China Morning Post reported on Thursday that U. S. President Barack Obama and Chinese President Xi Jinping “are set to jointly announce their ratification” of the Paris Climate Treaty when they meet on 2nd September before the G-20 Summit. This is curious because ratifying treaties in the United States requires a two-thirds vote of the Senate.”
– don’t panic, Myron: barking isn’t biting, they’re just playing.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Johann Wundersamer
August 28, 2016 6:21 am

The problem is that so many Americans with heads full of mush have no idea about the ratification process in the U.S. and they will just assume the President can do this.

August 27, 2016 5:14 am

No problem. We’ll enforce the treaty with the same care as China. Besides, China doesn’t have to do anything for 14 years. The US can pretend to be China and enforce the treaty in whatever way they want. China never considered any treaty binding. Why should the US, especially since it’s not legally binding as a treaty.

hunter
August 27, 2016 6:02 am

Bill Clinton, it should be remembered, did this same cowardly thing just before he left office by signing Kyoto

Harry Passfield
Reply to  hunter
August 27, 2016 7:11 am

And then, if my (UK) memory recalls, pardoned an awful lot of very questionable people. I wonder who Obama will pardon…

Pamela Gray
August 27, 2016 8:56 am

Trump: The incarnation of Bugs Bunny, that wrascally wrabbit. It may be a vote down the that wrabbit hole but it will be better to do down the hole with him than having to fight off the feds when they come to my house to confiscate whatever they have currently deemed unfit for humans to own.

Pamela Gray
Reply to  Pamela Gray
August 27, 2016 8:57 am

Fingers flying faster than brain is thinking. Typos too numerous to fix.

Resourceguy
August 27, 2016 9:27 am

….afterwards there will be a coronation also.

Resourceguy
August 27, 2016 10:05 am

Meanwhile the super weapons of WW3 are shaping up next door in NK with sub launched ballistic missiles and mobile launcher long range missiles on land. Enjoy the nuclear winter.

SMC
Reply to  Resourceguy
August 27, 2016 11:48 am

North Korea, in and of itself, isn’t much of a threat. They can cause some significant damage and havoc in general but, the South Koreans would hand them their heads in short order. The real problem starts when North Korea begins losing and the Chinese jump into the fight. At that point, the US would jump in. It would then go nuclear very quickly. Russia and Iran would very likely take advantage of the situation and begin operation in their areas of interest. Russia in Europe and Iran in the Middle East.

Resourceguy
Reply to  SMC
August 27, 2016 1:55 pm

You are out of date.

SMC
Reply to  SMC
August 27, 2016 3:54 pm

No, I’m not. The North Koreans, by themselves, are not a threat to the US. The can do some considerable damage to the South but, that’s about it. Their long range ballistic missiles, both land based and sub launched are not reliable. Nor do they, yet, have the ability to carry a nuclear warhead. The North does not need SLBM’s or long range land based missiles to attack South Korea. Also, their submarines are laughable. Their logistics are almost nonexistent. They are a one shot pistol, then they’re done. Things change when China jumps in. At that point, it becomes a whole different ball game.

Resourceguy
Reply to  SMC
August 28, 2016 9:07 am

South Korea and much of east Asia are relying on the U.S. as an ally since they don’t possess any of these special weapons. That reliance is ultimately dangerous and explains the development of long range missiles by NK–to be a wedge between allies in choosing the west coast over allies. It will be like Ambassador Joseph Kennedy recommending to cut and run from Britain as a lost cause.

TA
August 27, 2016 11:31 am

Redifining words is a trick the Left uses to confuse the issues. It’s deliberate. It’s like “politically correct”. Leftist thought is the only thing that is politically correct, but they don’t call it Leftist thought, they call it Mainstream thought, by using the “politically correct” description, thus giving it the appearance of general acceptance by the public, rather than limited to Leftist thought and acceptance.
The Left is on the march, and they have lots of tricks, not just word tricks, they use to further their agenda. It’s all written down in black and white, you just have to know where to look. They have a plan on how to undermine our society, and they are carrying it out, and are being successful at it.
We will find out after this election whether or not we are too late to stop the Left from gaining too much power over us. A scary thought, isn’t it. Anything looks better than that. Then there’s Trump. There are lots of signs that Trump, even with all his flaws (which are comparatively small), does have a movement going on. Let’s hope so for all our sakes. Won’t be long now.

August 27, 2016 11:43 am

Maximum Leader . I like that . Interesting to Google .

Sean
August 27, 2016 3:43 pm

President Barack Obama has no legal authority to ratify any Treaty of any kind ever.
If he is doing so then this is a high crime and treason.

bh2
August 27, 2016 8:19 pm

The Fonz jumped the shark. The Prez jumps the Whale.

Tom in Florida
August 28, 2016 6:18 am

“One of my undergrads, who is smart and motivated, thought that it meant the government putting money into one business or another. ”
The progressive belief is that the government owns everything. The government then allows people to have certain things and rights, a top down system. The statement above shows how the progressive’s agenda it to indoctrinate people into their beliefs. Of course, they only believe this when they are the ones on top.

Resourceguy
Reply to  Tom in Florida
August 28, 2016 9:12 am

Yes and if you look at the party plank of tax increases and that of Bernie and other franchisees of the same planks it is based on scanning of assets out there to be tapped, not incentives to grow the tax base like in the old days. It is a zero sum mentality based on power plays.

Perry
August 30, 2016 2:43 pm

Executive decisions have consequences. This could be Obama’s Operation Blue Star.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kehar_Singh