This is unfortunate that it didn’t work, but perhaps they tried to do too much here, like solve climate change and third-world social household habits all in one. The real solution is bringing inexpensive electricity to places like this.
From the UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON:
Replacing traditional cooking fires and stoves in the developing world with “cleaner” stoves is a potential strategy to reduce household air pollution that worsens climate change and is a leading global killer.
A new study by researchers from the University of British Columbia, University of Washington and elsewhere — which measured ambient and indoor household air pollution before and after a carbon-finance-approved cookstove intervention in rural India — found that the improvements were less than anticipated.

CREDIT Ther Wint Aung, University of British Columbia
Actual indoor concentrations measured in the field were only moderately lower for the new stoves than for traditional stoves, according to a paper published in June in Environmental Science & Technology. The study is one of only a handful to measure on-the-ground differences from a clean cookstove project in detail, and the first to assess co-benefits from a carbon-financed cookstove intervention.
Additionally, 40 percent of families who used a more efficient wood stove as part of the intervention also elected to continue using traditional stoves, which they preferred for making staple dishes such as roti bread. That duplication erased many of the hoped-for efficiency and pollution improvements.
Laboratory studies suggested that the more efficient, cleaner-burning stoves could reduce a family’s fuelwood consumption by up to 67 percent, thereby reducing household air pollution and deforestation. In practice, there was no statistically significant difference in fuel consumption between families who used the new stoves and families who continued to cook over open fires or traditional stoves.
Without field-based evaluations, clean cookstove interventions may be pursued under carbon financing programs that fail to realize expected carbon reductions or anticipated health and climate benefits, the study concludes.
“A stove may perform well in the lab, but a critical question is what happens in the real world?” said lead author Ther Wint Aung, a doctoral student at UBC’s Institute for Resources, Environment and Sustainability. “Women who are busy tending crops and cooking meals and caring for children are using stoves in a number of ways in the field that don’t match conditions in the lab.”
Across all households, average indoor concentrations of particulate matter, an unhealthy component of cooking smoke that can contribute to lung and heart disease, increased after the intervention stoves were introduced — likely because of seasonal weather patterns or food rituals that required more cooking.
The median increase, however, was smaller in homes where families exclusively used intervention stoves — 51 micrograms per cubic meter, compared to 92 micrograms per cubic meter for families who used both intervention and traditional stoves and 139 micrograms per cubic meter for the control group of families who continued cooking on a traditional stove.
“On the one hand, there was less of an increase in some pollution levels and that’s a win. But on the other hand, it feels pretty far from a complete solution,” said co-author Julian Marshall, UW professor of civil and environmental engineering.
The cookstove intervention the research team studied was the first stove intervention in India approved for financing under the Kyoto Protocol’s Clean Development Mechanism, which allows wealthier countries to reduce their climate emissions by investing in projects that provide climate benefits elsewhere.
Among 187 families who cooked with traditional stoves that burn wood or agricultural waste in the Koppal District of Karnataka in southern India, approximately half were randomly assigned to receive intervention stoves — a single-pot “rocket” cookstove that burns the same biomass fuels. Randomization allowed the two groups to be comparable on demographic and socio-economic variables that may influence the outcome of measures, thereby minimizing potential bias.
The community-based organization leading the intervention has a history of working in the region and took care to address issues promptly and ensure that the new stoves were culturally acceptable, such as lowering the height of the stoves to meet the ergonomic needs of the women using them.
The research team took detailed measurements of how much wood the two groups burned — as well as air pollution within the household cooking areas and at sites in the center and upwind of the village — before and after the intervention stoves were introduced.
The researchers also measured black carbon — a less studied component of smoke that has negative health effects and also contributes to climate change — and found intervention stoves increased the proportion of that pollutant in the smoke.
Next steps for the research team include investigating whether giving families more choices among intervention stoves — with the goal of finding one that would meet a wider range of their needs — could further reduce reliance on traditional, more polluting stoves.
“We haven’t cracked this nut yet,” Marshall said. “But maybe that’s the nature of this problem — maybe we’re going to have small, incremental steps forward. Maybe it’s not going to be a vaccine-type approach where you have one giant step that dramatically reduces the problem.”
“Ultimately households throughout the world will desire the same clean cooking technologies used in high-income countries and in most urban areas: electricity or gas,” said co-author Michael Brauer, UBC professor in the School of Population and Public Health. “This study suggests that the interim solution of cleaner biomass stoves remains elusive.”
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I hate to disagree with Anthony, but his remedy ; “The real solution is bringing inexpensive electricity to places like this.” is not rue and is, for now for most places, “pie in the sky”.
Until four years ago, my wife and I lived in the Dominican Republic where we did humanitarian work, mostly with the poor and profoundly poor. 80% or better of rural Dominican homes cook over wood or charcoal, at least part of the time. They would prefer propane stoves, which are available cheaply as one and two burner units and propane is subsidized by the government. Nonetheless, the poor often run out of gas and use the wood or charcoal stove — or the run our of money for gas. Cooking for groups, large pots of rice or stews, is almost always on a wood fire — on a wood stove or just the traditional open fire three-rock-stove, often outside under a roof or just in the backyard.
It will be decades before Dominicans will be cooking on electric kitchen stoves, if ever. Modern electric ranges need 50 amp service, far beyond the actual service supplied to most Dominican homes outside of the Capital — and many have simple 120v/20 amp (one or two circuits) service. No part of the country has reliable 24/7 electrical power.
Solar and wind will probably never supply adequate power for all electric kitchens.
Kip Hansen
I admire you and yours service to the people of the Dominican Republic.
I beg to disagree re: electricity. An electric hotplate and tea kettle need only 110 service which is easily obtainable. Cultural norms do take some time to change especially around the issues of food in developing countries. You are correct that 50 amp service is needed for an electric stove with four top burners and one oven; that is not what I am talking about.
The major obstacle to electric cooking in 3rd world countries…? no electricity because IMF won’t finance coal fired power plants. This is a political issue. Nothing technical about it. Starvation, vulnerability to respiratory illnesses, and deforestation are the outcome of the Green induced IMF policy.
Change the IMF policy and poof, away goes most respiratory illnesses in the 3rd world; away goes deforestation; away goes subsistence living. Pretty remarkable what electricity does for people. Pretty horrible what Green groups do to vulnerable people.
RiHo08 ==> an “electric hotplate and a teakettle” do not a kitchen stove make, particularly in Latin America, where chicken is deep fried, huge pots of rice need cooking, and so on, in addition to water being heated for washing, bathing, etc (bathing water rarely needed, water left out in a metal 55 gal drum averages out at about 85 degrees F). Moreover, eating must happen at least two times a day, electrical service is not reliable, off as often as on, in many places only one in the early evening, off the rest of the day. In may towns and villages, one knows if the power is on, not by looking for lighted street lamps, but at the street side benches….if the people are off the streets, the power is on and they’ve run inside to catch an hour or two of TV before it goes off again.
An “electric hotplate and a teakettle” make a “kitchen” for a retired British couple in a two room apartment — eating mostly curry take-out and one-box, just-add-water meals.
They DO need electricity — to run businesses and refrigeration — but it must be 24/7, ample, and not on-and-off.
Kip – I’d be interested in obtaining your contact details if I may. Nothing specific immediately but I hope to do similar things in future as I’ve done previously. My main area has been solar LED lighting but all related activities are of interest. apptechnz at g mail
Russell
But solar will supply lighting to many parts of Dominica, and mobile phone charging and more cheaply replace kerosene lanterns…
One of these would suffice, it plugs into a standard 13 Amp socket.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Portable-Electric-Mini-Oven-Grill-with-Double-Hob-Hotplate-Table-Top-Cooker/162146772544?_trksid=p2141725.c100338.m3726&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20150313114020%26meid%3D650dbf066c364e65ac3693b192e3f7bd%26pid%3D100338%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D15%26sd%3D322197413981
Or of course that old students’ bedsit standby, the Baby Belling.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Baby-Belling-121R-Table-Top-Mini-Kitchen-Oven-Grill-Hob-in-White-13-Amp-Plug/232004432894?_trksid=p2141725.c100338.m3726&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20150313114020%26meid%3D650dbf066c364e65ac3693b192e3f7bd%26pid%3D100338%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D15%26sd%3D322197413981
Those are extremely good examples of what cannot be done realistically any time soon for a vast number of people.
Here “realistically” takes account of politics, greed, human nature, priorities and resource use. Fix those and it’s easy. Almost any cooker uses a 1 kW element or larger. Assume you can use 500 W. A $500 to $1000 all up installation using direct off panel solar at current best costs. Add a battery and it allows enegy time shifting but costs substantially more.
ie To supply that equipment with solar power costs far more than 100’s of millions of people are able or willing to commit to. To supply them from a grid connection is more than millions of grid connections are able to do, and not going to happen until we “fix” the problems in my above list . Very sadly :-(. – Russell
I like to cook with gas. When I was in the Peace Corps in Brazil, we had a project involving turning animal waste in to cooking gas. It is very cheap, safe and effective. It consists of a manure pit with a sheet metal roof which collected the gas made by the bacteria in the manure. The weight of the “roof” created pressure for the cooking gas which was piped to the stove in the house. This solves the particulate problem and the deforestation. The fuel is essential free.
King
“ and is a leading global killer.”
More BS!
Many years ago after Gore invented the internet I blogged under the name ‘cowpiemaster’. A moniker my boys gave me because I was working anaerobic digestions of animal waste for my company at the time. I know my sh*t.
I also do risk assessments. The kind that gets reviewed by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission. No one has been killed or hurt by radiation from a US nuke plant. The risk is insignificant, in fact and assessment models. The medical profession has killed a few people. The benefit of very high exposure to radiation in treating cancer outweigh the risk of the patient being killed.
I can cite many examples of workers being overcome by hydrogen sulfide (HS) and dying face down in excrement.
Three points. First, significant risk can result in people being killed. Second, risk must be evaluated in the context of the risk.
Third, multiplying insignificant risk by a billions of people to determine it is ‘a leading global killer’ is just BS.
The root cause cause of cooking with wood or cow patties is the lack of affordable electricity.
There was a time in America when a rich farmer’s wife chopped wood for her cookstove. The poor had open fire places. That was before electricity.
During the depression in the 30s power lines were pulled to rural America. Not magic, just political will and technology.
RKP – This is NOT “disagreement” but hopefully [ 🙂 ] useful and non-confrontational comment. .
I imagine that the “leading global killer” comment is meant to be taken in the context of the use of open flame cookers and lights in residential spaces as is common in ‘developing country’ use. In those cases the particulates have a significant impact on health and lead to reduced net longevity, as well as direct death and injury from burns – a not insignificant risk.
Some sobering ‘stats’ here: http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs292/en/
“Premature deaths” is a misleading concept (if I die a year or a month or a week earlier than otherwise te death is “premature). But things like “More than 50% of premature deaths due to pneumonia among children under 5 are caused by the particulate matter (soot) inhaled from household air pollution.” and “Nearly one quarter of all premature deaths due to stroke (i.e. about 1.4 million deaths of which half are in women) can be attributed to the chronic exposure to household air pollution caused by cooking with solid fuels.” get easier to quantise.
Useful:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indoor_air_pollution_in_developing_nations
http://burningissues.org/fact-sheet.htm
Again, “premature detahs” does NOT necessarily mean ‘died because of’ – it may mean ‘life shortened becaause of’.
@russellmcmahon
‘particulates have a significant impact on health’
Not true! You may want to be more skeptical. Fearmongering is a political sport.
I suspect you do not understand ‘insignificant’. It is technical term. For example, if you breath nitrogen gas, you will be dead before you hit the ground. Confined space hazards are a significant industrial hazard. Companies have to show that the risk to workers is ‘insignificant’.
In the US, regulators accept ‘one in a million’ as an insignificant risk compared to the accidental non-occupational death rate.
If you have to do a study it is not significant. Growing up, I knew polio was significant. When my parents were growing up whooping cough was a significant childhood disease. Thanks to effective vaccines, new parents today are more worried about the risk of reaction to the vaccine then the disease itself. One of our babies went from getting his first vaccine to the emergency room. He could not finish the vaccine but was protected at the time because of most babies getting vaccinated.
Since I am a skeptic, I will start a list of significant factors for health issues. My intent is to show that links to wiki or WHO is just so much BS.
The most significant factor is getting old.
‘stroke … can be attributed to the chronic exposure’
How about ‘attributing’ strokes to getting old. Maybe I will do a study attributing strokes to reading BS and then submit it to wiki.
‘pneumonia among children under 5 are caused by the particulate matter’
The second factor is adequate medical care. Since I had wike open:
“Pneumonia is usually caused by infection with viruses or bacteria and less commonly by other microorganisms,”
Who are you going to believe, WHO or wiki?
Too cold or too hot is another factor. I suspect that not having electricity for cooking means no A/C.
Then there is lack of safe drinking water. Electricity is needed for that.
After all those pathogenic microorganisms, I would worry about all the flying and crawling critters that spread disease by biting.
I am just not seeing the significance of ‘particulate’. Like CAGW, seems like more of a theory than a problem.
russellmcmahon you are correct.
Please see my note below on premature deaths v.s deaths.
There is no actual data underlying any claims linking smoke and Acute Lower Respiratory Infection ALRI. Full stop. I got that less that two days ago from a global expert in this field.
GBD includes smoke from various sources. Removing one adjusts the relative contribution of the others. The linkages are statistical and apply to populations as a whole. The GBD is useful for resource allocation, but it is not a diagnostic tool. And a premature death is not a death. A premature death is a statistical construct. It doesn’t mean there is no value in the number but it is not a diagnosis specifying treatment.
“For example, if you breath nitrogen gas, you will be dead before you hit the ground.”
Really?
I’ve been breathing around 80% nitrogen gas all my life, and I’m not dead yet
My rural Wisconsin dairy farming grandparents didn’t get electricity until after the 2rd WW — but they were sure glad to have it!
Retired Kit P ==> Let me point out once more — poor people do not cook with eletricity! Even if they can get it (which most can’t) They cook with bottled gas….which must be cheap and easily obtained (good distribution network). Even in the 1950s in the USA, older homes did not have ample electrical amperage to their homes to use electric stoves and ovens. I owned a home in the 1980s that still had basic 50 amp power!
Providing enough power and cheap enough to electrify the kitchens of the poor of Africa or Latin America is a multi-generational task, and the energy breakthrough necessary for it has not yet happened.
Yes, they do need cheap, plentiful, dependable electrical power — just not for cooking — for that they need bottled (or infra-structure city) gas.
“Let me point out once more — poor people ”
Congrat Kip on being part of the problem and not the solution.
Here is what is wrong with Kips thinking. What is the cost of not having clean drinking water and reliable electricity?
American dairy farmers are very productive. Why? They have electricity to milk cows and run their computers. They have backup generators.
It is a corruption thing. Poor hungry people are easier to control. Kip explains why you can not do something. But it is done everyday.
South Korea after WWII was one of the poorest countries in the world after years of being enslaved by Japan. 90 % of the homes had dirt floors, and no electricity. Without natural resources, South Korea became one of the richest countries in the world. South Korea is now exporting nuclear reactors.
More people in India are without than live in the US. Of course that is the kind of thinking Kip engages in. In all those ‘poor’ countries, the rich have clean water and reliable power.
It just take political will for all who want the basic to have them.
Many poor people have a gas cooker and use it sparingly for special tasks like reheating food and making tea.
In Indonesia LPG is subsidised. 40% of the whole population primarily cook with it. 40% use wood. However 70% of those who cook with LPG heat water with wood. And somewhat surprisingly, 70% of those who cook with wood use LPG. This is an example of stove stacking. Replacing one stove doesn’t magically create a healthy home.
I have numerous ‘stoves’ in my home: a water heater, a furnace, a toaster, a BBQ, a gas stove, an electric frying pan, a slow cooker, a microwave oven, a coffee maker, a kettle and an oil-filled electric heater. That is 11 stoves. Why is anyone surprised that ‘poor people’ who harvest their fuel for free use two or three stoves to meet their needs?
@RiHo08
“Try reading this:”
I did and your claim WBS makes kids sick is BS.
First, association is not causation. Second it is postulated. That means it is just a theory. Third levels of indoor air pollution were not measured.
I have read studies that indicated measured levels of indoor air pollution are higher when using a WBS. The levels will not make children sick but it a long term risk factor amoung many risk factors.
Real world don’t match expectations in labaratory. Much like real world don’t match predictions in computer modelling
I wonder if the proper solution to this is the technology of the early 20th century. Heating wood in the absence of air gives charcoal and gases which can be condensed to produce wood alcohol and some other useful chemicals. The wood alcohol is a useful liquid fuel. Before petroleum became cheap, wood alcohol from charcoal manufacturing was the primary feed stock for the US chemical industry. And the charcoal can be used in houses where it is considerably cleaner burning than wood (at least the nasty volatile stuff has been removed). For example see: http://library.umaine.edu/cfru/pubs/CFRU056.pdf
Instead, when charcoal is made in the 3rd world it’s by traditional methods that do not try to capture the gases. The result is pollution and less efficiency.
There are many curious aspects of this paper, too many to comment on in a single post.
Most important in no particular order are:
“The researchers also measured black carbon — a less studied component of smoke that has negative health effects and also contributes to climate change — and found intervention stoves increased the proportion of that pollutant in the smoke.”
This does not make plain enough that the proportion of total mass that is BC rises but the total is far less. It sounds as if the total BC rose and several comments are made based on this erroneous assumption.
Next, it was not the first CDM financed stove project in India. That honour belongs to Servals in Chennai. They make a TLUD gasifier they provide/sell to homes that burn wood waste from a furniture factory. The stove turns the wood into charcoal while cooking. The char is sold to an aggregator who sells it to a foundry as a coke substitute. The carbon dioxide offset is traded on the carbon market. The women in at least 6000 homes make money while cooking. It’s cool.
Next, the rating of stoves that meet the National Standard (IS 13152) is made using a test conducted with bone dry wood which gives unrepresentative emissions (especially smoke). Thus to pass the test you have to design the stove to burn that fuel. This is in fundamental. If a stove works well with real fuel, it will probably fail the national standard test. So, were these stoves ‘approved’ or were they ‘good’?
As for the impact of these stoves (lots of which are very good) I must emphasize a critical point that will probably have gone unnoticed by those not working in this field. It concerns the impact on human health of smoke from domestic stoves.
You will hear from time to time references to x-million ‘premature deaths’ caused by exposure to cooking fire smoke. At present the popular number is 4.3m ‘premature deaths’. This is calculated on the basis of what are called Disability Adjusted Life Years (DALY). These are modeled (5 or 6 layers deep) and use concepts that include the GBD and IER. They are ‘population statistics’ not consequences that result for an individual’s exposure to smoke. They are unlike asbestosis which can be traced one by one.
So here is the switcheroo: people routinely change ‘premature deaths’, which means ‘shortened lives’, into ‘deaths’ as in: ‘The cause of death was a disease traceable to inhaling smoke from domestic cooking fires’. This is an unpardonable cheat. Shortening 4.3 million lives by 6 months, or 2 years, or 10 years, is in no way comparable with killing 4.3 million people. So, as you read articles on this subject, check to see if the author has a clue what they are talking about when they start flinging ‘impact’ claims about. Watch for claims that X kills so many people and Y, which shortens lives by creating illness, is ‘nearly as bad’. A death from malaria at the age of 3 is not equivalent to a premature death at 68 that might otherwise have been at 71. I have recently seen the switcheroo in a single sentence! The authors often know the public doesn’t understand the difference so they create enhanced alarm and seek funds on that basis.
Considering all the other contributors to the Global Burden of Disease, it is not clear what the number of smoke-related DALYs will be for the current population of India because their GBD is changing so rapidly and will do so for decades to come.
Lastly, the PM2.5 concentrations they report are significantly lower than the ambient air in many cities so lowering the stove emissions to zero will have nearly no effect even on a population basis. The GBD contribution from ambient air may dominate their premature death. Who knows? Which is better, a Zika virus inoculation or a better stove? What is the benefit of both?
People love clean burning stoves because they (usually) ignite quickly and don’t make their clothes stink. Modernity is defined differently as one moves around the world, eh?
What on earth was objectionable about what I posted for it to be disappeared?
“I’ve been breathing around 80% nitrogen gas all my life, and I’m not dead yet”
I knew someone would not know the difference between air and nitrogen gas.
So yes really! That is the problem with idiots. They are too stupid to look something up.
“Retired Kit P July 31, 2016 at 7:29 pm
I knew someone would not know the difference between air and nitrogen gas.”
Can you list the gaseous components of AIR? AIR consists of ~78% nitrogen, ~21% oxygen, 1% “other”, agree?. If so, we breathe more N2 than O2. Your outright derogatory response is inappropriate.
http://www.csuchico.edu/news/current-news/6-30-2016-students-win-manufacturing-award.shtml?utm_source=August+2016+Newsletter&utm_campaign=August+16+Newsletter&utm_medium=email
California State University, Chico engineering department wins an award for stoves.